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I Choose…To Embrace The Chaos MORE with Alli Webb · I Choose Me with Jennie Garth

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to I Choose Me, the podcast all about
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  Speaker 2: the choices we make, even the messy ones. So this
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  Speaker 2: week I had an amazing conversation with Messi founder Ali Webb,
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  Speaker 2: formerly of dry Bar. We've got some bonus messy content
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  Speaker 2: talking about showing up in the world with intention and
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  Speaker 2: embracing new methods for healthy and gorgeous hair. Let's jump
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  Speaker 2: back in. So, say you want to be the change
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  Speaker 2: in the world that you want to see in the world.
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  Speaker 3: Right. I love that quote.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, what are two tips about being the change? How
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  Speaker 2: do you show up in the world every day to
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  Speaker 2: be the change?
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  Speaker 3: Be really kind to everybody, and remember everybody is going
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  Speaker 3: through something hard. Is that one or two?
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  Speaker 1: That's one? Okay?
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  Speaker 3: And what else could I say? Have self awareness? Yes?
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  Speaker 3: Can you imagine if everybody was like, you know, as
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  Speaker 3: someone who's like I'm sure you try. You know, travel
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  Speaker 3: a ton too, and like you're in an airport. I'm
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  Speaker 3: always in fucking airports and people are talking so loud
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  Speaker 3: and people are standing so close to it. Just be
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, come on, he is doing Yeah, nobody
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  Speaker 3: wants to hear your conversation, like be aware of what
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  Speaker 3: you know. And so I think I'm shocked, literally shocked
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  Speaker 3: about how people show up a lot, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I just don't want to be that person. I want
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  Speaker 3: to be really self aware, I'm really respectful. And I
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  Speaker 3: think that there is I talk about this a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I think that there's a collective thing that happens here
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  Speaker 3: where if like if you were just showing up as
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  Speaker 3: the best version of yourself every day, just you, and
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  Speaker 3: I was doing just me, and you know she was
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  Speaker 3: doing just I was like everybody was just doing their
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  Speaker 3: little part of being kind, gracious, self aware, you know,
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  Speaker 3: seeing the best in people. Like what a better world
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  Speaker 3: we live in. It's like people hold on I do
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  Speaker 3: this morning meditation every day. That's like holding onto angers,
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  Speaker 3: like holding onto a hot coal. You know, it's like
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  Speaker 3: poisonous to you. Not every you know, it's like you're
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  Speaker 3: you know, you're harming yourself. It's like yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 3: but but then there is the collective piece of it
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  Speaker 3: that like if you weren't doing that, how much better
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  Speaker 3: the world would feel?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very powerful.
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  Speaker 2: Part of your new brand is the rough, dry mass, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: kind of the opposite idea of the blowout, which there's
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  Speaker 2: certainly still room for sometimes, like you said, share what
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  Speaker 2: the rough dry method is.
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  Speaker 1: And how to do it.
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  Speaker 3: So basically, it's like you get out of the shower,
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  Speaker 3: you've just washed your hair, towel dry your hair, throw
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  Speaker 3: some rough dry, messy cream in it. Then I put
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  Speaker 3: it in before I comb out my hair, comb out
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  Speaker 3: my hair. Then I kind of tussle my hair with
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  Speaker 3: my fingers. I use a blow dryer just with my
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  Speaker 3: fingers and the blow dryer no diffuser, no diffuser, okay,
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  Speaker 3: just to get the moisture, like the moisture out of
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  Speaker 3: my hair, to get it to to get it to damp. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: it's not soaking wet. It's damp right, right or not?
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's towel dried. Then it do stay away
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  Speaker 3: from your roots. I stay away from my ends.
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  Speaker 1: I do. I'm sorry on my roots, I said, you mean.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because like for me, and this is not the
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  Speaker 3: case everybody, but I have very curly roots, so I'm
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  Speaker 3: using my fingers to kind of stretch out my roots
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  Speaker 3: so I don't get a lot of curl in my room.
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  Speaker 3: So I think when you're a curly hair girl, that's
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  Speaker 3: kind of the problem. But if you don't have that,
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  Speaker 3: then you can just kind of rough dry everywhere and
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  Speaker 3: you kind of get you learn how much is too
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  Speaker 3: much and how much is too little, and you kind
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  Speaker 3: of have to play around with it a few times.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like and then you know, I always say,
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  Speaker 3: I want my hair about thirty to forty percent dry,
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  Speaker 3: so it's still very damp, so it'll still hold and
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  Speaker 3: be pliable because it's still a little wet. So you
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  Speaker 3: can still like manipulate the hair with more rough dry cream.
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  Speaker 3: And I just take my hair and twist it all
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  Speaker 3: around my head, which takes me literally three minutes if
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  Speaker 3: even that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did it today walking around my house.
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  Speaker 3: Like go and if you have more, do more twists.
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  Speaker 3: If you don't, it's fine. And if you have, like
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  Speaker 3: we were saying before, if you have straighter hair, get
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  Speaker 3: it to that point and then clip it up and
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  Speaker 3: then do your makeup and get dressed and have coffee
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  Speaker 3: and do all the other stuff. And it let it set.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's like the old school, like set the hair,
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  Speaker 2: set the hair and let it rest and see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's so good.
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  Speaker 3: And the thing is, it's trying twists. Yeah, if it
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  Speaker 3: dries in the twists, it stays in the twist, and
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  Speaker 3: so it dries in this like twist, and then once
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  Speaker 3: it's completely dry, you don't want to touch it till dry.
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  Speaker 3: Once it's completely dry, then you get your fingers in
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  Speaker 3: it and open it up and it's it's set in
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  Speaker 3: the twist. So that's almost like setting your hair, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and so you don't get the frizz. And that's the
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  Speaker 3: thing about the ref Ji cream too. It's very anti frizz,
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  Speaker 3: so you're getting yours really helping eliminate frizz.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. It's it's actually so sort of freeing.
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  Speaker 2: It is very free. Yeah, very free.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that's the thing for me. I'm like, what
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  Speaker 3: used to take me an hour to get ready? I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: if I'm gonna And I by the way, I don't
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  Speaker 3: even wash my hair every day. I'll just take, you know, water,
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  Speaker 3: Like today I didn't wash my hair. I just take
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  Speaker 3: water and like scrunch it.
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  Speaker 1: How many days can you go without washing your hair?
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  Speaker 3: Probably like three?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I love that.
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  Speaker 3: And then and then but the days that I am
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  Speaker 3: like washing my hair, I'm like, oh, it'll take me
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  Speaker 3: four minutes to get to do my hair. It's very free. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so the world is pretty messy right now. I
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  Speaker 2: mean you think it's always pretty messy, but right now
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  Speaker 2: especially two things you do each and every day to
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  Speaker 2: get yourself up out of bed and living a productive
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  Speaker 2: life even in the messy times.
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  Speaker 3: So I would say ninety percent of the time. I
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  Speaker 3: feel like it's hard to be one hundred percent and
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  Speaker 3: I just got to give yourself a little Yeah, but
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  Speaker 3: I really try to. Like I'm not a super religious person,
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  Speaker 3: but I do, Like in the morning, the first thing
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  Speaker 3: I try to do before I do anything get on
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  Speaker 3: my phone is like thank God for another day. That's
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  Speaker 3: like my little mantra in the morning. And then you know,
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  Speaker 3: i'd be lying if I said I did this right away.
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  Speaker 3: I will check my phone, which I wish I.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't being a business owner.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like all the things I look on my
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  Speaker 3: phone right away. But then I'll look at my phone.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be like, okay, I'm good, there's nothing I need
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  Speaker 3: pressing here. Then I'll do like a morning meditation. I
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  Speaker 3: have like two or three that I use inside timer.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes I do it when I'm walking my dog. Sometimes
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  Speaker 3: I do it when I'm still in bed.
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  Speaker 1: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I kind of don't prescribe to like I have to
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  Speaker 3: be sitting with my eyes closed to meditaty, which I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure some people would come after me for that. But
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  Speaker 3: I like this. I like to I like to make
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  Speaker 3: my coffee. I love walking my dog. I walk my
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  Speaker 3: dog like endlessly several times a day. And I but
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  Speaker 3: that's the first thing I do in the morning is
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  Speaker 3: listen to them like a gratitude meditation.
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  Speaker 1: Gratitude is the key.
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  Speaker 3: Gratitude is the key.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, if someone has a business idea but they're not
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  Speaker 2: sure they want to run a.
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  Speaker 3: Business, yeah, I can't say I'm blame you.
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  Speaker 1: What would you say?
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  Speaker 2: Are the things a person has to have to be
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  Speaker 2: an entrepreneur two or three? You know, on top of
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  Speaker 2: having a great idea, Like, what are the things that
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  Speaker 2: it takes well?
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  Speaker 3: I think you have to recognize what you're good at
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  Speaker 3: and what you're not, like where you need support and help,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I mean in Drybar, I wasn't the CEO,
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  Speaker 3: my brother was until we brought on like a real
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  Speaker 3: CEO and so so like knowing your strengths and weaknesses,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and allowing you know, also like if you
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  Speaker 3: have a business partner, you can't both be doing the
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  Speaker 3: same thing. You know. It's like right, whether someone's you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's just I think that's when you run into problems
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  Speaker 3: with partnerships and you know, so is that like designate Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's like I heard the analogy once it's like five
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  Speaker 3: year old's playing soccer. Everybody's kicking the ball.
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  Speaker 1: It's like it's not getting the ball in the net.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's just chaos, right, So I think that's the case.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's like, you know, bringing people who are
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  Speaker 3: good at what you're not recognized back to self awareness.
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  Speaker 3: Recognize what you're good at and what you're not you know,
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  Speaker 3: and allow for me And this was real learning with
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  Speaker 3: especially with dry bars, like allowing other people you know,
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  Speaker 3: to take the ball and run and allowing them to
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  Speaker 3: make mistakes and knowing that they're going to make mistakes
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  Speaker 3: and that's how they're going to learn and they're going
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  Speaker 3: to get better and not always having to be in control.
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  Speaker 3: I also heard somebody say once that as the CEO
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  Speaker 3: of a company, you know, there's this like old school
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  Speaker 3: like you're the CEO, you're the boss. Everybody kind of
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  Speaker 3: like channels up to you, which is true on some level,
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  Speaker 3: but I think it's like I think of like I
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  Speaker 3: should be serving my team as the CEO, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like I serve you my team. What do you need
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  Speaker 3: from me? How can I support you? You know, just
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  Speaker 3: kind of flipping the script on that, you know, And
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  Speaker 3: I think that that creates a much better work environment
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  Speaker 3: where people feel empowered and they want to work hard
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  Speaker 3: for the company and the brand, not that they're scared
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  Speaker 3: right of you, right yeah, which by the way, I
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  Speaker 3: was very scary in the drybar Ara. I mean that
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  Speaker 3: was the thing. My brother came to me and said once.
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  Speaker 3: He was like, you know, everyone's scared you. And I
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  Speaker 3: was like, first of all, I was like, what are
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  Speaker 3: you talking about? You know, like a total raging bitch.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh right, you know, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't and I can go back to that place if
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  Speaker 3: I'm not careful, you know, of like just being like
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  Speaker 3: very shrewd and very like kind of back to like
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  Speaker 3: the decisiveness that I have that I'm just like, what
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  Speaker 3: are you talking about? You know, instead having to be
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  Speaker 3: like wait, let me listen.
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  Speaker 1: Hear them out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had somebody's tell me before that people were
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  Speaker 2: scared of me and it really impacted me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. It doesn't feel very good, and it completely contradicts
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  Speaker 3: the other thing I just said of like have self awareness.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's like be kind, be good, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and I just really want to be kind and good.
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  Speaker 3: You've developed that though, Yeah, I did develop that because
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  Speaker 3: it's confusing when you're young, because you're like I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I want to be a badass, like I want to
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  Speaker 3: be like I know everything. I don't want to be
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  Speaker 3: like that anymore.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's exhausting.
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  Speaker 3: It is exhausting. It's it's yes, it's like riddled with stress, yeah, worry.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're carrying everything yeah, all the time and
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  Speaker 1: you don't really have to right. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: To end our bonus episode, you talk about not getting lucky,
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  Speaker 2: but getting intentional. Give us your elevator pitch or getting
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  Speaker 2: intentional for saying, today's day I'm going to choose me
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  Speaker 2: and make this happen. What would you how would you
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  Speaker 2: tell someone to do that?
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  Speaker 1: Today's the day?
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  Speaker 3: I think people, I think there's like the get out
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  Speaker 3: of your own way, you know. I think a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people get stuck in the Like I was just
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  Speaker 3: having a conversation with somebody about this, like the you know,
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  Speaker 3: analysis paralysis and like kind of what we're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know, I'm afraid to make a
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  Speaker 3: step because I'm afraid it's going to be the wrong one,
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  Speaker 3: you know, versus like just take action. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's like, don't let perfect stand in the way of progress,
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  Speaker 3: you know, just go, just do it, Just take the
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  Speaker 3: leap of faith, you know, and figure out the game
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  Speaker 3: plan later. You know. I think that that is that's
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  Speaker 3: kind of always. I'm definitely a fly by the seat
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  Speaker 3: of my pants kind of girl, and like figure it out,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in the air, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Not do you like to jump into the deep end?
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  Speaker 3: I don't. I don't like to jump. I don't like
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  Speaker 3: the minutia. I don't like I don't like details. Like
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  Speaker 3: I'm not very detail oriented, which may be a shocking
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  Speaker 3: to people, but I'm just like somebody else deal with
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  Speaker 3: the logistics. I'm a big idea. Here's the vision, Here's
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  Speaker 3: how I see things going. I don't want to be
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  Speaker 3: in the weeds, I don't, you know, And I know
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  Speaker 3: that and I'm not good in the weeds. I'm terrible
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  Speaker 3: with details. I can't tell you how many like flights
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  Speaker 3: I've booked wrong on the wrong date because.
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  Speaker 1: I put myself in and out on the same day.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, that all the time. And it's just
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  Speaker 3: like my brain, it's just like I've got a blind
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  Speaker 3: spot there. But I'm aware of it. So I keep
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  Speaker 3: people around me so that I don't do things like that,
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  Speaker 3: you know. And and for my business, speaking of intentionality,
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  Speaker 3: like if I were in charge of a lot of things,
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  Speaker 3: there would be there have a lot of fuck ups,
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  Speaker 3: you know, And so I bring on people who make
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  Speaker 3: sure they're you know, they're checking that stuff right.
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  Speaker 2: So you say, you think surrounding yourself with people that
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  Speaker 2: are smarter than you or better than you had certain things, and.
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  Speaker 3: People that compliment you, you know, people that are.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I get your vision. I like your vision too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I want to support it and help build
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  Speaker 3: it and grow it.
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  Speaker 1: With you, you know. Yeah, that makes all the difference, it
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  Speaker 1: really does.
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  Speaker 3: And and team is everything. You know, if you don't
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  Speaker 3: have a team that respects you, wants to be in
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  Speaker 3: it with you, you're that's not fun.
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  Speaker 1: No, that sounds lonely.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and scary, scary and bad and it's just it implodes.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, it doesn't sound as rewarding as if you
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  Speaker 1: would take.
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  Speaker 3: It right with and like I love my team, Like
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  Speaker 3: I have such a cool fun. We have so much fun.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's such a great team.
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  Speaker 1: And how many people do have on your team right now?
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  Speaker 3: Pretty bit ten? So more small.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that's a small team. Yeah, but everybody's doing their part.
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  Speaker 3: Even you know, it really lends itself to like we
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  Speaker 3: all really know each other. There's you know, there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of camaraderie, there's a lot of fun, which is like,
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  Speaker 3: if it's not fun, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Elevator pitch complete? That's that's the key. If it's not fun,
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  Speaker 2: what are you doing? Oh my gosh, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 3: This was so fun. I could do this all day.
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  Speaker 1: I love chatting with you. Let's go have lunch.
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  Speaker 3: I know we should