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NFL DFS Week 6 Sunday Shippers | Main Slate DraftKings & FanDuel Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems go.
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  Speaker 2: Clear for lift-up. What's up, everyone? Tyler Tamblyn here, a.k.a.
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  Speaker 2: Toe Tagging Tambo, back for.
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  Speaker 3: Another edition of Sunday Shippers Week 6 NFL Edition here
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  Speaker 3: on the Ship It Nation YouTube station. Make sure to
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  Speaker 3: of our free shows. Got Hoop, got Title here with
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  Speaker 3: me as always. We're down to 10 games. It's not
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  Speaker 3: like these other ones. I know there's another game kicking
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  Speaker 3: off overseas right about now or just shortly from now,
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  Speaker 3: but Hoop, bring you in first, man.
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  Speaker 2: 10 games on the slate. Interesting one. We were talking pre-show.
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  Speaker 2: Where are we going? What are we doing? How are
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  Speaker 2: we going to handle it? But we're going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about all that and more on the show. What's going on,
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  Speaker 2: my friend?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, down to 10 games. Obviously get some buys in
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  Speaker 1: the mix now. We still got the London game, obviously
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  Speaker 1: the primetime games, the Thursday night, Monday night. So just
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  Speaker 1: down to 10, which I like. I mean, consolidates things
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  Speaker 1: a little bit and still enough games where you don't
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  Speaker 1: really have to worry about ownership a ton. But I
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  Speaker 1: think it's an interesting week, I'd say. what is this,
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  Speaker 1: week six? We're talking about a pre-show. In terms of
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  Speaker 1: roster construction, probably the most difficult week for roster construction.
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  Speaker 1: I've been hand-building some teams. I know, Tam, but you
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  Speaker 1: have as well. I'm struggling to land on what I want.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like any time I build something, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I'm sacrificing something to make it all fit and
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  Speaker 1: not feeling all that comfortable. Again, as I always say,
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  Speaker 1: that's why I love doing these shows because At the
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  Speaker 1: end of the show, I have a feeling I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to have a much better feeling about everything. So I
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  Speaker 1: haven't really built too much and excited to talk through
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  Speaker 1: this one with you guys.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, first time in forever.
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  Speaker 3: I said to you guys pre-show, and I felt really
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  Speaker 3: good about my cores the last couple of weeks. I
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  Speaker 3: had Jordan Love last week, Nico Collins with CJ Stroud,
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  Speaker 3: Lamb the week before that.
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  Speaker 2: Everything was clean.
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  Speaker 3: This week, I don't have it up because I don't
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  Speaker 3: know yet. There's just something that we're going to have
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  Speaker 3: to figure out on this show. I have a few
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  Speaker 3: spots left. that i'm interested in have some conviction price
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  Speaker 3: pricing did tighten up a little bit for sure and
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  Speaker 3: then on top of it you know with the 10
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  Speaker 3: games and the running back situations and some of that
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  Speaker 3: stuff you gotta you gotta think through it just a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more so this one should be a good
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  Speaker 3: one for that reason title what's going on my friend
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  Speaker 3: free money sunday baby week six what's happening.
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  Speaker 4: Not much best day of the week another day with
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  Speaker 4: football sitting on the couch watching football all day a
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  Speaker 4: lot of money up top uh yeah we don't have
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  Speaker 4: that lions cardinals game but We do have the Rams
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  Speaker 4: because they're playing the Cardinals and might be a story
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  Speaker 4: of a lot of these slates. I was hoping the
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  Speaker 4: Cardinals would be on a primetime game because I don't
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  Speaker 4: go to any football games around me on Sundays. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the Cardinals stink, so they get zero. So yeah, get
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  Speaker 4: used to the Cardinals on the main slate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're there. That's one thing I will note, though,
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  Speaker 2: about this slate.
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  Speaker 3: The three afternoon games of the 10 definitely have a
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  Speaker 3: ton of opportunities within them, right? You got the Rams
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  Speaker 3: at home versus the Cardinals. 32 and a half point
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  Speaker 3: team total for the Rams. Don't see that very often.
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  Speaker 3: How you handle that game is critical. You got the
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  Speaker 3: Chiefs at home versus the Chargers. The Chargers have been horrible.
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  Speaker 3: But if you want to see a spot where you
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  Speaker 3: could go back and forth, that's something. And if you
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  Speaker 3: have late swap opportunities, that could be a place you go.
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  Speaker 3: But then the other big game hoop is the Raiders.
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  Speaker 2: At the bills.
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  Speaker 3: So a lot of games on the slate that have importance,
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  Speaker 3: three of them in the afternoon, give us your grand
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  Speaker 3: scheme overview with some of that in mind.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, you know, when I do these kind of
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  Speaker 1: just go through the positions and talk through the landscape
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  Speaker 1: of the position, how it correlates to roster construction and Um, quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: you know, same as usual. I mean, nothing too crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think the most popular will probably end
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  Speaker 1: up being Matthew Stafford, but at the quarterback position, we
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  Speaker 1: talk about it all the time. It gets spread out.
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  Speaker 1: People want to play stacks. They want to correlate their,
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  Speaker 1: their team. So that just spreads out ownership at quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: I always say it like, if you like a quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: don't fade them because of ownership. Rarely. I mean, usually never,
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  Speaker 1: you never want to do that. Uh, highest owns probably Stafford, uh, and,
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  Speaker 1: easy to get overweight and easy to play him in
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  Speaker 1: different ways. He has two studs as a cheap tight
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  Speaker 1: end now and guys on the other side. And we'll
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  Speaker 1: talk about it when we get to that game, because
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  Speaker 1: I think it is an important aspect. One, one little
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  Speaker 1: thing I noticed last week in, in the game with
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  Speaker 1: the lions in regards to the Cardinals. So I'll throw
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  Speaker 1: that little teaser out there. So you guys stay for
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  Speaker 1: the entire show to hear, but something I picked up
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  Speaker 1: on in that game that I think can be applicable
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  Speaker 1: to how you play the Cardinals and Rams today. So
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  Speaker 1: that's one thing I want to touch on when we
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  Speaker 1: get there. Running back seems like it's been very similar
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  Speaker 1: for almost the entire season. Like we have the stud
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  Speaker 1: up top in Bijan. We have other guys, Jonathan Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: We have a lot of 6K guys that are in
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  Speaker 1: the mix, but strong plays at the position for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, very, very strong plays at the position. So
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  Speaker 1: a lot of different ways to go there. The one
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  Speaker 1: bit of news, it looked like Ramondre Stevenson could have
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  Speaker 1: been a standout play today, but I guess Henderson's playing.
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  Speaker 1: They made it sound like the guy was dying five
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  Speaker 1: days ago. Now he's playing today. I think that's an
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  Speaker 1: interesting aspect. I think the position that's most important today
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  Speaker 1: is wide receiver. We don't have the studs on the slate.
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  Speaker 1: We have a stud. We have some studs, but we
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  Speaker 1: don't have all the studs. No JSN, no Justin Jefferson,
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  Speaker 1: the Dallas guys are off the slate. Nico Collins, Parker
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  Speaker 1: Washington off the slate. My guy, Rasheed Rice is injured.
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  Speaker 1: That's big. He's not a stud. He's not there.
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  Speaker 4: I was laughing on mute. Don't worry.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of the main guys are off the slate.
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  Speaker 1: So we got Puka, but then there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: mid-tier options. But I think the one thing that really
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  Speaker 1: stands out here is without the studs, you'd think we'd
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of value at the position. We really don't.
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  Speaker 1: There's a couple value plays, but they're not like all
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  Speaker 1: the way down in the 3K range. I think this
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  Speaker 1: is what makes roster construction relatively difficult today, not having
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  Speaker 1: those super cheap wide receivers. So wide receiver, I think
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  Speaker 1: the most important position, like what you do with it,
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  Speaker 1: how you build with it. how it affects your roster construction. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a lot of these games, I think we're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to hit on the wide receivers and
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  Speaker 1: talk about, talk about that position specifically. And then tight end,
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  Speaker 1: we do have some value, Isaiah Likely, Dallas Goddard, but
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  Speaker 1: we have some spends. I mean, Brock Bowers, we've talked
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  Speaker 1: about it a lot on the show, you know, wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver one. I mean, he's right there in terms of production, JSN,
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  Speaker 1: guys like that. Like he's right there. Now the price
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  Speaker 1: has kind of caught up, $ 7, 500 on DK. But, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this is a spot where people are going to come
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  Speaker 1: for value. You're going to see a lot of double
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  Speaker 1: tight end today. Haven't really seen it the last couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks, but double tight end is going to be big,
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  Speaker 1: big today just because we need the value here. And
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of it. So, yeah, it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: where we're at looking at the positions. Then we'll hit
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  Speaker 1: on the games and kind of talk through it all
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  Speaker 1: and see what we can find at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the day here.
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  Speaker 3: to me. He said a lot of things and they're
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  Speaker 3: all good. And that's why we get him for the
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  Speaker 3: grand scheme overview. But two things that stood out to me, one,
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  Speaker 3: when the pricing tightens up, I think just a quick,
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  Speaker 3: you know, memory refresher for myself and for others out there.
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  Speaker 2: Is I think we want to correlate more, right?
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  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, you could just play this one-off receiver
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  Speaker 3: because everyone says he's the best value on the slate.
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  Speaker 3: But for a hundred bucks more, you could play the
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  Speaker 3: guy that fits the game stack that if you actually
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  Speaker 3: hit the ceiling in it, you would get full ceiling
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  Speaker 3: out of it possibly and be able to get your,
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  Speaker 3: get your way up there at a much lower owned
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  Speaker 3: guy to separate.
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  Speaker 2: So I think about correlation a lot more.
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  Speaker 3: And then give me your thoughts before you take us
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  Speaker 3: into the first game, which is bears at Falcons, a
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  Speaker 3: fun one, but give me your quick thoughts on the
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  Speaker 3: double tight end, because I think there is something to
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  Speaker 3: that with like likely at 4,800, just as the one
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  Speaker 3: example that's popular, uh, If you use him, sometimes people
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  Speaker 3: will feel more comfortable than a Damian Pierce at 5,100
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  Speaker 3: or a Braylon Allen at 5,700 on the road in
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  Speaker 3: New England. How are you thinking about double tight end
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  Speaker 3: in tournaments today? And then take us into the Bears-Falcons
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  Speaker 3: after that. Anything else you want to add to the
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  Speaker 3: Grand Scheme overview is good as well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, nothing more to add. Grand Scheme did a great job.
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  Speaker 4: With how many of the studs we have on the slate,
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  Speaker 4: Josh Allen, B. John, Jonathan Taylor, Puka, That leads you
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  Speaker 4: to the double tight ends. Wide receiver is really dust today.
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  Speaker 4: That's why Puka is getting so much ownership. And then
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  Speaker 4: if you really are spending anything, any sort of salary,
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  Speaker 4: at that position, that's kind of flipping the bill than
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  Speaker 4: being contrarian. And as far as the tight end position,
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  Speaker 4: like give me Isaiah likely over Damian Pierce all day.
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  Speaker 4: And these tight ends are on the field. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we saw likely has gotten peppered a ton, but just
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  Speaker 4: looking at the tight end position, Brock Bauer, seven, five,
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  Speaker 4: you compare him to, Other people that are 7'5, I
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  Speaker 4: know you talk about this a lot, like Brock Bowers
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  Speaker 4: is going to look great. But that is going to
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  Speaker 4: be not contrarian by any means, but it's mainly going
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  Speaker 4: to be mid-tier and then where you want to save. Kincaid,
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  Speaker 4: Jawan Johnson, Fryermuth. I'll even add Loveland in there because
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  Speaker 4: it's been a short sample this year. Fannin, Goddard, Hunter Henry.
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  Speaker 4: These are options one, options two on the team playing
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  Speaker 4: 80% plus of snaps. And DraftKings is just underpriced tight
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  Speaker 4: end pretty much forever. I've been playing double tight end
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  Speaker 4: probably overweight to the field almost every single week so
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  Speaker 4: far this year. This probably is the week it's the
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  Speaker 4: most owned, but I still probably think it's under-owned when
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  Speaker 4: it's all said and done. Like, I want these big guys.
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  Speaker 4: If Puka's going for 40 or, you know, need 40, 35,
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  Speaker 4: and Bijan and JT and Olave, whatever these guys are doing,
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  Speaker 4: if they're getting 35-something plus, that is when a 4K
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  Speaker 4: McKee getting 15 and a Goddard getting– 14 or 18
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  Speaker 4: could be enough. So that's the main thing. It's what
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  Speaker 4: the studs do. And then if they absolutely go off,
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  Speaker 4: you need salary relief and tight end looks like the
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  Speaker 4: best position to do that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, before you go in, I'll say quick, Sully said
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  Speaker 3: it was nice to see me part of it. That
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  Speaker 3: tells you how much I'm running this through my mind
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  Speaker 3: and trying to work on stuff. I was definitely up
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  Speaker 3: late last night trying to figure some of this stuff out,
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  Speaker 3: like Hoops said off the top. Hopefully get to better
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  Speaker 3: clarity of where I'm at once we get through these
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  Speaker 3: 10 games. But, Tidal, I'm going to let you kick
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  Speaker 3: it off.
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned it. It is the Bears at the Falcons,
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  Speaker 2: the Bichon London Falcons.
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  Speaker 3: At least those two guys being talked about, but I
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  Speaker 3: think the Caleb stacks are picking up steam and so
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  Speaker 3: on and so forth.
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  Speaker 2: So give us your thoughts on the bears of the
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  Speaker 2: Falcons here to kick things off.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I was a little worried about the steam in
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  Speaker 4: this game as well. Cause it feels like, all right,
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  Speaker 4: once you don't go Stafford, like where are people going
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  Speaker 4: to go on this slate? And it's pretty difficult. You're
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  Speaker 4: going to go to the big boy total, which I mean, like, yeah, I,
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  Speaker 4: I play Bijan pretty much every single week. There's no
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  Speaker 4: doubt that, He's in a great spot again this week.
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  Speaker 4: There's always something. Again, I don't believe in this stuff.
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  Speaker 4: When he's chalk, he busts. When he's low on, he
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  Speaker 4: goes off. Let's hope Brian Robinson doesn't have three touchdowns
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  Speaker 4: and all that. But I think his ownership has to
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  Speaker 4: stay in check to an extent. We have it 22%,
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  Speaker 4: which is in check. Again, that's because you're sacrificing Puka
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  Speaker 4: or you're sacrificing other things. You can't play everything, which
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  Speaker 4: shout out to DraftKings. I like slates like this more
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  Speaker 4: than when you can just jam them all in. Drake
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  Speaker 4: London's showing more ownership at 28%. And I want to
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  Speaker 4: get away, but the problem is it's really hard for me.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's one of the best plays on the slate,
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  Speaker 4: even at chalk, because even when they hardly throw the football,
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  Speaker 4: it's just all the Drake London. So, I mean, DraftKings monster,
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  Speaker 4: full point PPR, the bonus. And then if they do
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  Speaker 4: need to throw more, if they do get any sort
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  Speaker 4: of trailing game script or want to open it up
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  Speaker 4: a bit, his ceiling can even get higher. So 7K,
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  Speaker 4: like sooner than later, he might be 7.8K or something.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm going to play it. And the nice thing
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  Speaker 4: about How I can play it is, because I am
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  Speaker 4: going to play Cale Williams stuff, and I am worried
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  Speaker 4: that it steams, but I'm going to play him with Loveland,
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  Speaker 4: who's single digits. I'll play him with Rome. I can
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  Speaker 4: double stack. Burden is the one that probably is my
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  Speaker 4: least favorite, just because I think he pulls the most
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  Speaker 4: ownership with Caleb. Obviously, the receiver position, and then we
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  Speaker 4: still think he's wide receiver one for this team. $ 500
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  Speaker 4: difference from Luther Burden to Dunzai, I think, is too...
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  Speaker 4: It's not wide enough yet. Again, it's a lot of speculation.
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  Speaker 4: Who knows? But coming into the year, Burden was like
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  Speaker 4: a fifth-round pick, fourth-round pick in fantasy. Odunze was a
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  Speaker 4: good bit later. So because I think most of the
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  Speaker 4: Caleb stuff does go to Luther Burden, my favorite ways
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  Speaker 4: to do it is Colson Lovin, really, at that onesie
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  Speaker 4: tight end position. But I want to play two of
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  Speaker 4: them and just hope everyone's out on them. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: everyone was out on Drake May just a couple weeks ago,
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  Speaker 4: and he wins slates. So, yeah, I'm in on this game.
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  Speaker 4: Pennix side a little harder. I just, man, it's– He's 5K,
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  Speaker 4: so there's not too many bad things to say. If
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  Speaker 4: I play him, it's with Drake London and or Bijan.
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  Speaker 4: You definitely can play him with them. But even when
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  Speaker 4: those guys go off, Penix just hasn't shown the ability
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  Speaker 4: to really do something in fantasy. So a little hesitant there,
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  Speaker 4: but yeah, it's going to get some ownership in this game.
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  Speaker 4: At least like Loveland, if you want to double stack
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  Speaker 4: the Caleb stuff. I'm not too worried about that hamstring personally.
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  Speaker 4: And then I'll let you guys talk about Swift, another
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  Speaker 4: running back that's very much in play, coming off somewhat
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  Speaker 4: of a stinker but in a blowout last week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy, right?
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  Speaker 3: Like last week, his 17.7 or whatever he got is
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  Speaker 3: just terrible because of the way the slate shook out.
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  Speaker 2: But it's like he actually could have done more. It
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  Speaker 2: is what it is.
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  Speaker 3: But I think that's somewhat interesting to this slate from
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  Speaker 3: just a game theory perspective in this game because he's
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: still a no-man-none guy.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: I get it. Caleb is back now.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: Maybe that helps keep this game a little tighter and
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: closer and gives him more opportunities in that sense. But
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: if you were going to do it different and not
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: go the Bijan side, I think you could go like Penix, London, Pitts,
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: and use Swift and or somebody else.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: Over there.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: It's definitely a more aggressive approach, but it's just a
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: way to get different. If you guys have the stone
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: over at Shiba Nation, so for members, we do have
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: a simulation-driven data process that says what the optimal rates
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: are on each player and how often they're ending up
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: in those lineups.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: And Hoop, I thought this was interesting.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: You don't, I mean, we knew Bijan would be high,
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: but you don't often see the wide receiver on the
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: same team of a running back with that high of
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: a score. Like you see Gibbs at 25% optimal, and
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: Amun-Ra at like 16 or 17.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: It's flipped here.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: We have Bijan at a big boy number and Drake
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: London at an even bigger number. So what's your thoughts
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: on this Bears-Falcons game and how you're handling it?
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's a very on the Falcon side.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, the reason for that, just a very consolidated offense.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: It almost reminds me of back in the day, Le'Veon
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Bell and Antonio Brown. Like they just did everything for
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: that offense. And that's what the Falcons are kind of
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: turning into. It's like they're doing Absolutely everything. Bijan and
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Drake London. Sometimes there's a little bit of pits, but
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: for the most part, it's just those two. And they're
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: projected to score some points today. So you're going to
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: see that. And I guess the one thing for sure,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: like the Bijan thing, when you guys touched on it,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: it's like ownership could come down on him. Like it's
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: probably going to be that Gibbs situation from a couple
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: of weeks ago where he was. Gibbs was the clear.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: top wide receiver and then comes in at what was
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: it like 20 some percent. And, you know, everyone thought
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: it was going to be much higher. It could happen
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: again today. Cause you start building out rosters and you
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: start making lineups, it gets uncomfortable and you're going to
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: see a lot of double tight end. So if there's
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of double tight end, what does that mean?
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Like it's going to pull from some of that running
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: back ownership for sure. Cause a lot of people like
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: playing the three running backs and they're probably not going
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: to be able to do it today. So I think
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of these running backs, could come back a
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: little bit in ownership because we see a lot of
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: the double tight ends. So in one 50, I want
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: to be way over on Bijan Robinson today, like way over.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: And it's going to be easy to do so because
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I think it's, it's going to come back and you
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: can't project for it. You can't project for it to
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: come back. We're showing, I mean, I guess, yeah, we're
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: showing 23. So that's already a pretty damn low number.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: So if it comes any lower than that, I mean,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: that's a gift today to get Bijan at that low number.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: So loving that. So I guess, let me, go back
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: and just talk about the game as a whole the
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: bear side love the bear side and the reason i
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: love it there's so many different ways to go about
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: doing it right like you guys kind of touched on
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: it already and and this is one of those games
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: that you know i love talking about using this example
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: if you come into this game and you say okay
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: i'm going to play caleb williams i'm going to play
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: luther bird and i'm going to run it back with
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: bijan robinson The worst thing you can do if you're
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: hand building, like just don't do that because if people
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: are coming here, that's what a majority of the field
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: is going to do. Or they're going to go Caleb
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: burden and run it back with like Drake London, do
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: something different. Double stack Caleb, many options here. Roma dunes,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: a Kalief Raymond, fine with Kalief Raymond. Someone in the
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: chat asked about him. I mean, he's out there. Ben
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Johnson loves the guy. Colston Loveland has to be just
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: a phenomenal play on the slate. Just has to be
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: with those other tight ends. This guy came in big
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: time expectations. He's done nothing this year. I think he's
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: a phenomenal play. Play Caleb with DeAndre Swift. I'm fine
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: with that. Like he'll dump off to DeAndre. So do
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: something different on the bear side. And there's like so
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: many different ways to do it. On the Falcon side, though,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: it is difficult for those numbers that Tambo read off.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Like the optimal rate on Bijan and Drake London, very high.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: And like if you are using a run back or
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: something on the Falcon side, like it's tough to say,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: all right, I'm just going to play Kyle Pitts like
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: it's just difficult so if you do want to do
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: the Falcon side a little bit different would definitely include
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the Michael Penix stuff like it played played Penix which
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I'm fine with today like I do want to be
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: on Penix and if you're not playing Bijon like Penix
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Drake London and then something on the on the bear
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: side is a quick way to get a little bit
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: different in this game and it's cheaper you're going to
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: cheaper out quarterbacks only 5k and Penix are still projected
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: score 26 so It's a really good game. I'm going
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: to be all over it. But the one thing for
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: sure is make sure you're doing something a little bit
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: different if you're coming here.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the one thing that really stood out to me
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: there that you said is just how different. I guess
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: that makes me more excited about this spot than maybe
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: I was originally, even if it steams, is that you
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: said how much different you can get Sorry, on the
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: bear side, right? You, you mentioned it with like Caleb
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: and Swift together, Caleb Swift, Odunze Loveland. If this look
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: at almost a 27 point total on the road for
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: the bears going into Atlanta inside like this, this could
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: be a spot. They open it up and you know, you,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: get this offense going and then you've got um london
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: popping like he is i think one really interesting thing
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: that you just made me think of right now and
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: it ties the whole slate together but it would be
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: stack the caleb side push burden to the side add
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: London in because we just keep him and sit on
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker in the, in the late slate for 200 bucks,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: less than Bijan.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: You end up getting that right. That game, right? Bijan bus.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: And you got the automatic pivot sitting right there on
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: a chief's team scheduled to score almost four touchdowns this afternoon.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: And that guy's been on the field a ton. So,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: it could be Jonathan Taylor and you'd be in the
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: same games in the morning. I'm just saying, imagine you
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: get Caleb Odunze, Loveland and London, for example, right.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: And you're just sitting there.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: And then you've got, um, you know, in the Bijon spot,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: you've got Kenneth Walker in the afternoon and Bijon bus,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: and the game goes the right way for you.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: That's going to feel pretty good. Not saying it's going
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: to happen. Just noting.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: That's how I want to think about this slate when
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: I'm building just to be a little bit differently. I
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: do think the Loveland call Was really solid. I'm with title,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: less excited about burden than I am like a guy
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: like Odunze. I know it's only 500 bucks, but I
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: just feel better. about going to some of those different guys.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Caleb and Raymond were a thing before Caleb's injury and
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: stuff like that. So there's other ways to go. And
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: then like you said, stacking with Swift. If I'm going
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Bijan more often than not, it's either going to be
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: in like full game stacks or probably just hoping that
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Bijan becomes the Gibbs of Detroit's game last week where
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, you needed a couple other pieces. You
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: could make cases that you needed more than just Gibbs.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: But in the end, kind of just Gibbs had the
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: big boy game and that's how it went. So I
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: think that's my final thoughts here on this one.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: This was the late night discord discussion title. I'll go
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: to you Browns at home versus the Ravens. And you've
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: got Watson, Boston, Concepcion, Fannin, the other side, you got
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Derek Henry.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: It is no Lamar, right? But you've got Zay Flowers.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: You've got Derek Henry, Mark Andrews.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on this game here? The Browns at
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: home versus the Ravens.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Like one side a little bit. And that is
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: the Brown side to it. Injuries that we're going to
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: have to monitor on this slate. Quinshawn Juckins, which, Hoop,
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know if he cares about that news at all. But, A,
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: I think it does two things. Jaleel McLaughlin's 4,900, which,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: is it fun to roster 4,900 McLaughlin?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Not really.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, is it fun to roster Tyler Algier or
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Damian Pierce? Not really, but people are talking about it.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: So that would be another really cheap running back that
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: would be in play. But I think more importantly, I
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: actually would like Deshaun Watson more because I don't think
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: they trust dropping back and giving it to Jalil McLaughlin
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: 20 times. I think more would have to be on
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: the shoulders of Deshaun. He can run. He's 4,900. He
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: has clear targets in Concepcion at 4,200, Fannin at 4,100.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: Not even at Denzel Boston. He's expensive, but 5,500 showing
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: 5% ownership. If we want to jam some chalkier games,
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: some higher-priced guys, this stack is really, really cheap. And
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: playing a really cheap quarterback that can run and has
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: ran– is somewhat appealing to me. Do I love the matchup? No.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Do I love the total?
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: No.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: But on a slate where it's very low-owned, it's very cheap,
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: and I can jam a lot of other stuff around it,
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: I'm in on it. So, yeah, I like Concepcion back.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: He's shown the most ownership. I like Fannin. And then
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Boston I'll take some shots on. Again, it only is
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: a bump for me if Judkins is out. I wouldn't
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: just go away from it if he's in, but it
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: would be a little bit of a hit. Curious to
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: hear what your guys take. Uh, mainly yours, Tam. I
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: think I know who sends a little McLaughlin who's probably
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: not going to play him, uh, on the other side. Yeah.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: I'm out on the, on the Raven stuff. I mean, 8,200 Henry. Sure.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Like he's always fine, but give me Walker, give me JT,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: give me B John. And again, ownership reflects that I still,
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: I can't play everyone or he's going to be very
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: small in my pool. Zay flowers kind of same thing.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Like this Browns defense has been solid going into the
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: dog pound. You always talk about gives the Ravens problems, uh, Yeah,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you're playing Zay, probably play Tyler Huntley. Like,
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: if Zay does fully nuke this slate, or Huntley at 4,700,
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Zay's going to carry him almost individually, and then he
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: only has more rushing upside on top. It's tough for me.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: It's probably going to be a really slow-paced game, but
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Brown's stuff is okay. I'd be lying if I love it,
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: but someone just asked me in chat, like, do I
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: have another Drake May? Not yet right now. I mean,
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: it's pretty tough. It's hard on this slate after you
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: went to make cases. and feel really good about them
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: at cheap quarterback. And then, yeah, any expensive quarterback, Stafford
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: or Josh Allen, pretty much.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Speaking of that, you made fun of my rap last
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: week and ended up being the Millie maker winner.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: So I didn't make fun. I just, I thought you
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: were preparing to yourself because it came off so smooth.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: No, just randomness. But yeah, this was a good one.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: I got one for later when we get to the
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Eagles game too. Not a wrap, but just another one
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: that we came up with last night in the chat.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: But I said I was practicing my lines.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I teased them in the Discord.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: But I guess like Zay at 7,100, just quickly back
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: to this, tough click, right? At a hundred bucks more
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: than Drake London. You can play them both, but I'm
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: just saying that's like a hard one to get to.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I also wonder, we'll see what the Judkins news is.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Nothing to do with that. I'm not high on McLaughlin.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Like again, I'd probably play Likely.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Over that and just figure it out somewhere else in
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: the flex. You know, I know you can play two
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: running backs and somebody else in the flex would say,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: I would just try and move around that and take
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: my chances elsewhere.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I also think about it.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: If they don't have, anything like that that they can
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: do yeah i think watson has to scramble some more
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: but that could also lead to uh some more picks
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: or some you.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Know i do like both defenses that's a good call
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: i didn't say.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: That i think the ravens d especially and it's not
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: even a homer take i just think if it somehow
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: judkins was out now i like the browns just as
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: much on the other side at 2500 i'm just gonna
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: stick to the defenses here and then kick it to
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: hoop because you said what i say usually and you
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: said like the i talk about the dog pound thing
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: that's even with lamar going in there Now we've got
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Tyler Huntley going in there.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: So it's, it's my point.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I don't think they're the same D as before, obviously
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: the last miles Garrett over the off season, things like that.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, it still ain't an easy place
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: to go in and play. So I think this could
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: just be, you know, a back and forth that way
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: a little bit on a slug.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: And then you see how it goes.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: But if you want to pick off a piece here
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: and there, it, there is, you know, the conceptions of
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: the Boston one-offs it's been that way, by the way, too,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: that's some of the chat in the discord last night,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: who the, the, The Ravens have given it up to
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: like one guy. They're not giving up like slate breaking performances.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: They're like lamb got them. It was like seven for
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: one 18. So whoever else they just played, I forget,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: got them for like seven and one 11th. like one
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: guy I'll get them. And that could be Boston or
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Concepcion here. And then that might be all you need though.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Nothing says you need to go crazy with everything else.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: That could just be a nice five, like, like title
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: set Boston does 5,500 feel great for him. No, but
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: he does, does 5% make it a little bit better
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: when you're plugging it in as a one-off that could
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: just get you 25 or 24 points or something.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: That would feel a little better. So I I'm thinking
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: about it that way. And then the defense is who,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: what do you got here with this one?
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, not going to spend a ton of
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: time on this one. I mean, I agree with you guys. Like,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: these Browns pass catchers is one awesome find. Concepcion, Boston, Fannin.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: You know, Fannin's pretty– I like Fannin quite a bit.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, again, if you're doing those double tight end lineups,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: like he fits that perfect. Derrick Henry at low ownership. Yeah,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: for sure. Like, I want some. He's going to be
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: in the pool. Not going to be a huge part
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: of what I do today. Both these defenses and move on.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: So just to note on Jerry's question here, Jerry, Matt's bad. Actually,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: I know him quite well, but it says morning macro question.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Is there a scenario whereby runbacks on stacks doesn't work
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: today and better build is over stack of two to
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: three exploding off offenses against the field talking about like,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: let me put three Rams, uh, three, whatever, three, whatever.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Like you can do that always. But when I sit
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: off the top and this is just my point. So
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: weeks one through six, usually for me, I always tease
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: that like week six is where I finally figure it out,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: but it feels like this year it's week six. So
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: I'm excited from that angle. I don't know what's going on,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: but I feel good about how we have to build today.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: I set it off the top, Matt. I think I
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: want to be correlating more because I want to be
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: trying to unlock that ceiling.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: An example would be like later just quickly. But if
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: you get to like that the.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Spot where you've got $ 4, 700 left and you're already in
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: on the Buffalo and Raiders game and you don't have
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Tucker in there, projections might say to throw in Xavier
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Worthy for 4,600 because he projects like four points better
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: than Tucker. But if you're already mixing in that game,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: I want the guy like in Tucker, oh, but he sucks.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: He never has big, it's fine.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: But if he does have the big game, I want
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: him to unlock everything else going on in my lineup.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: So just things like that, I think are where I'm
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: thinking about it. that I would rather have that pushed
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: in there versus trying to just to make these one-offs
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: work versus in the beginning of the season when you
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: do have so much value sometimes it's like we talked
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: about that San Francisco game a few weeks back against
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Miami why do I have to figure out if it's
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Douglas Bell Washington whoever Ollie Gordon whatever it might be
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: when I could just play Rashad Bateman as a wide
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: receiver one or actually funny enough it was Trey Tucker
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: that week that was a Bowers week out when that happened.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: It's like, I'm just going to play a wide receiver
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: one for value somewhere else this week. We don't have
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: a lot of that. So, um, I would be looking
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: to stack it up if I could hoop, go back
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: to you. This was the second part of the debate,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: by the way. So I'll ask you quickly. We didn't
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: pick a lane yesterday with myself and Blickle hoop.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: You may not be playing either of these. I would
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: understand why, but just, you got to pick one.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson, Denzel Boston, Concepcion and Derek Henry. 3-1 stack,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: or Cam Ward, Carnell Tate, Wandale Robinson.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: First. First option. First option.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: As soon as you said Cam Ward, I'm taking the
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: other side no matter what forever. So it doesn't even
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: matter who you put in that first slot. I'm taking
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the first slot.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go back to you to actually take
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: on the game, but I want to get titles quick.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Pick a lane first. What what side would you be
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: on in that one?
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: If you have to pick one, you said it was Tate, uh,
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Kim Watson, Boston conception with Henry, like Henry feeds the
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: game up. That stack comes back with it, or you
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: go into the game with the Colts at home and
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: you've got Jonathan Taylor speeding it up in the Derrick
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Henry spot.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: And then you've got Ward Tate Robinson coming back the
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: other way.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: I would definitely go the Watson side, but it's a
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: lot less own. JT is going to be double two
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: and a half times. Derrick Henry, uh, ward and watson
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: are relatively it's going to be higher yeah the ownership
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: for sure on.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Sully loves you so this was the argument i'm on
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: the other side of this and i think the part
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: you're saying to validate it is the exact reason why
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: i think it matters so i was explaining in the
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: chat about slate dynamics like people are actually on taylor
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: people are actually on tate but nobody's on ward and
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: robinson is like five percent and everything.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: So all cam wars will be with tate for sure
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: but it's like my point is the run back. Like
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: they're all going to be played the same way.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: All 4%.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: Right. It's 4%, but they're.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: I think, I think it matters way more than people
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: think of like knowing that stuff versus if you get
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: the other one, right.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Great.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: But it's also like, you know, you, you still have.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: To get everything else right to go with it. And it's,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: it's like, I use the Sean.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Tucker example, the week he scored 35 and everyone was like,
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Oh shit, I'm dead to Sean Tucker. It's like, no,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: nobody has Sean Tucker. And those lineups are also probably
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: dead in other places. So it's, To me, it's just like,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking about how I'm building up and building around
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: the slate.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I'm concerned. I care more about those ones that can
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: hurt me.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: And I think there's way more like Jonathan Taylor one-offs
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: or mini stacks and things like that than actually over
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: stacking that game.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: And we're talking about it now.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: So I'll kick it back to hoop and The Daniel
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Jones side is interesting. You got downs in a good spot, explosive.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Warren looks like he's going to play, even though he's
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: questionable coming in. But I think there's a lot of
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: ways that you can attack this game as like a
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: more unique spot. The Colts are scheduled to put up
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: or slated for almost 26 points at home here.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: So how does that happen? I think we got to
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: see a back and forth, but hoop, I'll kick it
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: to you.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I think the cold spot is very appealing for a
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: few reasons. We just talked about the running back position
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: and how we think some of these guys could come
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: down in ownership. If Bijan's coming down in ownership, I
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: can tell you another guy that's going to come down,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: and that's Jonathan Taylor. Because if you're spending, people are
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: just going to Bijan. And Jonathan Taylor, we're showing at 17%.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: It could be like.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: 13, 14, 15. And if that's the case, this is
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: like the Jonathan Taylor spot at home against a shitty
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: team favored by a touchdown. Like that's Jonathan Taylor right there.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: That's his whole career, like what he's made his career
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: off of. So it's a really good spot for him.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I want to take an overweight stance on Jonathan Taylor,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: but I also like this passing attack because of the
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: ownership and they're projected to score 25 points here. Right.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: And this is obviously a, you can do this anyway,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: like hand building. I'm fine playing the Colts passing game.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: If when one 50, I want.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: To be overweight.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, Daniel Jones, very, very cheap at 5,200. You
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: have four guys, four different options to pair them with
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Josh Downs. Who's not getting much ownership. Keenan Allen Treadwell
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: for cheap at 3,300. And then Tyler Warren as well.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: This offense is underperformed. So the prices are much lower here. uh,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: than they would be otherwise. And it does pain me
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: to say this, but you have runbacks like they're finally,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: you know, cam ward is complete trash butt cheeks. Uh,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: my son, his new, they, they, they use the term buns,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: which I like. I mean, just anything you want to
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: say about cam ward, he's horrible, but he's finally starting
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: to get the ball to his best playmaker and Tate,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: but he is going to come owned a little bit.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Wanda Robinson. I don't mind getting to him either. So, um,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I love everything on the Colts side, for sure. You
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: don't have to run it back, I don't think, in
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: this spot. But I do agree with Tambo's overall sentiment,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: where even more times than not, I mean, I know
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: you applied it to this week specifically, but more times
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: than not, if you're going for those big top prizes,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: you probably want runbacks when it makes sense. To me,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I'll always try to get a runback in there, but
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I don't want to force it. If I'm playing a
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: spot I like and I just don't like anything on
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the other side, don't. force it in there if you
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable with it. So I'm fine either way
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: in this one, either run it back or don't run
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: it back. But a lot of different ways to play
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: the Colts at really, really low ownership. And I think
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor is going to come down. All these expensive
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: running backs are going to come down in ownership just
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: because of the dynamic of the slate. And we know,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I can tell you right now, double tight end is
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: going to be very popular today. So when double tight
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: end is very popular, we're going to get some surprises
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: at the running back position in terms of ownership. So
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I love Taylor today.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Our guy Hamhawk, Says, who's worse at football?
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Judkins.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: This has got to be directed at Hoop, though, so
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: we've got to get your.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: Take, Hoop.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, man. Title's going to like this one. I'll say
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Cam Ward. I'll say Cam Ward.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: All right. But he said, my son uses the term buns.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I'm crying.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. What did I text him the other day?
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: And his response was, maybe it was like, oh, I
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: think it was with Bryce Underwood. I texted him. I
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: was like, man, Bryce Underwood is horrible. And his response is,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: he buns. I played him in cash yesterday. He is
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: buns for sure. Buns is a good word.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: He's straight buns too.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: That's been around. I like that.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: The kids have resorted back to buns now.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Where did I see it here? This one though, Hoop,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: how confident are you? Cause Jason brings back the old school.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I may love that. You know, we know Jason's been
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: here a while with us. We appreciate your support.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: It says, does Danny dimes transform back to Danny dollars
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: today or is it Danny?
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going, he's, he's yes. Yes. There's going to
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: be some zeros. We're not, we're not doing, we're not
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: doing the dimes. We're, we're, we're in the dollar range
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: today for, for Mr. Jones, man.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: I wonder too. Now you got me thinking about this
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: one and title. I'll go to you.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'll think some more, but, Man, I brought this
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: one up last week because we talked about the Antonio Williams,
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: just chalk, whatever, value play. And it was like, that
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: wasn't really about Antonio Williams. It was like, that's what
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: got you to neighbors and likely and Jameis. And you're like, well,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: that guy only had six points. He did, but those
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: that used him to build a stack around him, I
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: think there's some... sentiment there a little bit this week,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: at least around Carnell Tate. It's like, or like some
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: people have mentioned Robinson around the industry. And it's like, well,
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: that guy's, some would say buns for these. Like he's
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: going to get some catches, some targets was Cam Ward
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: is his quarterback, but.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: It might not be about them.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: It might be about getting to, danny dimes josh downs
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: i actually think tyler warren is a good play i
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: get that he got downgraded and whatever but it doesn't
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: seem like he's gonna miss or like it was that
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: serious so i kind of like this colts snack and
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: bringing it back with tate and then still having a
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: bunch of money now that hoop just talked uh talked
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: about it a little what are your thoughts.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Here yeah i'll help you guys out i'll call him
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: danny danny pennies dusty danny danny buns whatever you want
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: to call it i mean this dude's been the definition
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: of all those.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Words had a tough schedule to start the year You
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: can't move.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: That injury. That injury, I think, set him back a
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: couple of years. Maybe there was a spot to get right.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: It's at home. Applied for 26 points. I think it's
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: going to be on the back of Jonathan Taylor. I
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: think definitely one of the best plays on the slate.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: And I'll be riding him heavy. Yeah, man, I'm a
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: little more worried about the Tyler Warren in the sense
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: of like just the downgrades late in the week, like
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: on Friday. I love Tyler Warren on both sites. He's
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: been involved. He got his rushing touchdown last week. If
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: you do think he's 100% full go, won't have any limitations,
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: will actually look good out there. I mean, I guess
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: that makes Daniel Jones a little more appealing. I guess
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: that's definitely why I'm not on the Jones stuff is
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: because now that I'm a little more skeptical on Warren,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: then it's all right. I think Keenan Allen's a solid
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: play at 4,300, but he's even getting a little ownership.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: And then, yeah, Cardinal Tate, a wide receiver on the Titans,
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: is going to be 15%. And I wouldn't be surprised
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: if it even got a little more steam. It's like, man,
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: do I want to eat chalk Titans wide receiver with
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: cam ward? Not really. So, and again, chalk, that's not
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: the right word for him, but he's not low on
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: by any means. He will be clicked in the five
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: K range. I think Tony Pollard's an interesting way to
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: play this game to just blow everything up. Tate bus.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: Wando's getting a little bit. If you don't play JT,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: maybe the Titans can control the ball on the ground
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: a little bit and slow it down. So I don't
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: hate that. We have to, did we get a Tajay
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: Spears news?
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I just had it up here. Let me double check again.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: Returns to practice, questionable.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: I'm still seeing questionable. Because that would be, again, some
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: people already build their teams and don't do anything after that.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: So 5,400, I'd be a little interested, especially if Spears
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: is gone. More so one-offs for me in this game, though. Keenan,
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: I love JT. Yeah, Tate, Wandale, when you played in
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: the right way for skinny stacks. But I don't love
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: the quarterbacks as much.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Nothing there yet. And I just checked for other stuff
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: as well. And there was nothing that came up in
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: the interim there. So yeah, I think it's interesting.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: I definitely think it's one of those games that, you know,
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: could go either way, but I will say this, we
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: talked back and forth about the Watson stuff versus Ward
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: because of the discord jokes, but I do feel a
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: lot better getting the pieces out of the Colts and
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Titans games, regardless of how I get there. You know,
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: if it's just JT, if it's a Daniel Jones stack,
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: if it's, If Warren, if we think he's banged up,
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: you could play Jones, Downs, Allen, or Treadwell, pick two,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: and then bring Tate on the other side and just
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: fill up the running backs there.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: I could see that too.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: So I think there's a lot of ways that you
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: could go in this game, and hopefully some of them
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: at least make a little bit of a difference here.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: But Hoop, I'll go back to you. Patriots at home
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: versus the Jets. Got the Henderson news this morning is
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: likely to play. Got the A.J. Brown cleared and good
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: to go. So we'll see how this one shakes out.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: But what's your thoughts here on the Patriots at home
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: versus the Jets?
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't a place from AJ Brown. And then
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: there was, what was the quote just kind of came
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: out expected to play a good amount today. That scares
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: me a little bit, uh, expected to play a good amount,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: whatever it is.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Whatever that means. So I don't know, like, uh, After
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: last week, I think I want some Drake May. That
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: worked out quite well. Unfortunately, that team I had was,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: who was it? It was Dobbs in there. Was that
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: last week? Yeah, it was Dobbs. And yeah, that part
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: didn't work out so well. But 10th in the Millie,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I'm going to place it May for just that reason.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Hunter Henry, Romeo Dobbs. Maybe it's better for Dobbs. A.J.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Brownback opened some stuff up. Maybe he's the guy, but
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: it is a it remains a very difficult team to
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: stack up or you just trust that AJ Brown is
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: full go, but I'll have May in my 150. And
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I think this is a spot though, if I am
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: playing him, I do want runbacks and, you know, Braylon Allen,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, I think is a good play today. A
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: lot of people are going to probably struggle to get there.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Like ownership on Garrett Wilson is, you know, right around,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: 10 11 that's low he has the ability to to
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: kind of nuke the slate so yeah i'm in on
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: this a little bit but it's going to be more
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: 150 and just kind of whatever i get i get
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: like i don't think i'd be hand building a a
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: patriot stack so in on it for my 150 title i'll.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Kick it over to you same spot i think the
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: you know romandre was going to be a lot more
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: popular i can tell you that before you know henderson
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: company high ankle sprain i don't think a lot of
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: people had high hopes for him, but he was always,
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: they didn't call anybody up.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: That was the first sign.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: And then now they got him back in there as
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: of this morning. So what's your thoughts here on Ramondre Stevenson,
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: even with Henderson back and then the rest of this
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: game as a whole. Braylon Allen too, other side, by
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: the way, still no Brees Hall, no Adonai Mitchell on
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: that side, but Gonzalez back in the secondary for the
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Patriots as well.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: More news there. So take it.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Sorry, just to add on real quick, because I didn't
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: touch a ton on the Braylon Allen stuff. Like he's
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: getting all the work. And that goes a long way.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Like he is getting everything, which is what you want
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: in a running back. So, yeah, I definitely like him. Matchup,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: not ideal. Seven point underdogs, blah, blah, blah. He's getting everything.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: So there's certainly value there.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, his rushing attempt prop 16 and a half,
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: like Bijan's 18 and a half. James Cook's 18 and
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: a half. Kyron's 14 and a half. Like there's no
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: doubt about that. The problem is there's seven point dogs
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: on the road. And, yeah, I mean, it really took
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: him last week. He got so many opportunities last week.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: If he didn't break off that 22-yard touchdown, yeah, he busts.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: He got the bonus and the touchdown in one, and
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: it took the punter, the snap going over the punter's head.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: So I'm worried about efficiency in this one. And he's
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: a dog to score at plus 135, which you almost
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: need him to score. And then you look and, wow,
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: he's 16% owned. I'm a little worried about this Jets stuff. Patriots?
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: Ramondre is definitely my favorite play, and I think Ramondre
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: is a really good play. Price is good on both sides.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: Travion is coming back for sure, but yeah, the ankle sprain,
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, half the times anyway, if Stevenson is playing
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: okay and doesn't fumble, he's just the guy. He's very trusted. So,
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, why would they go back and do 60-40
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: or something? Ramondre is the only one favored to score
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: in this game at minus 120. Seven-point favorite, 6K, can
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: catch the pass out of the backfield, showing 13%. I
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: think he's an elite, elite play. Drake Maceoff's really tough
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: for me because he very well could just go out
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: and dominate. But, all right, now that A.J. Brown's back,
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: it's even harder. Are you going to play Dobbs? Are
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: you going to play Pop? Are you going to play A.J. Brown?
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: Are you going to play Hunter Henry? And you can say,
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: I like that because the ownership will be low. Absolutely.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Just get it right, and then you win all the money.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: The second you get one piece wrong and the Brown
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: has a three or Dobbs has two or whatever, you're
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: drawing dead for first place. So I, to be honest...
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: I think Drake Mays probably best in smaller field, like
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: real small field, and just run him naked because he
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: throws four touchdowns to four different guys he can run.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: He's already going to be low on that way, and
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: you just don't have to play the guessing game because
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: in smaller field stuff, you don't have to be perfect.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: And he's right in between, well, closer to Stafford, but
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: Stafford and Allen. If you're spending up at quarterback, you're
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: playing those two. So harder for me in Millie. I
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: should say that. I guess it's really, really large field
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: because then you just need to beat a million people
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: and then get it right. Or really, really small field
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: and then don't play Drake May. I would stack May
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: in the really, really large field stuff. But I think
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: they do well and they could put their foot on
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: the gas. It's just good luck getting the right one. But, yeah,
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: Ramondre and then Wilson in garbage time, 6,800. Ownership has
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: to stay in check. If I do think they get
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: down two scores, which I do, he's going to be peppered. So, yeah,
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: give me Ramondre, though, in this game.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Kearse, here's your take.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: I definitely made me laugh and you didn't even say it.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Just so I was like, we say something, we think
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: about it differently. It's like, uh, Ramondre got them files on,
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: on them, man. He was, even when Henderson's fully healthy,
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: he can fumble.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: He'll be right back.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: If any other time we need this to happen, we're like, Oh,
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: that guy's not coming back. We'll, we'll talk about next game.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Cam Scadavu for fumbles already. It sounds like it's Najee
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Harris time, but we'll get there. But just noting it,
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Ramondre will fumble. We'll be like, shit, we're on Ramondre.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: And he just fumbled. There's no way he brings them
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: back out.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Nope.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Very next drive, but he trots right back out there.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: You're like, Oh my God, this is amazing. So he
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: got them special files, man. I'm variable. I think that's
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: the setup, but You got Ramond Ray there.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: The one thing I want to ask you before I
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: kick it back there over to who like the, the
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: next game, but Patriots and jets defense.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: One thing I would say about Allen is I don't
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: mind playing Allen.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: If I'm playing them with the jets D I think
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: it needs to be a close game.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Cause you said it too.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: The other thing that made me laugh, it's like he
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: has a 16 and a half carry. It's similar to
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: some of these other running backs. The problem is those
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: other running backs might go for five, a carry plus
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: he might go for 0.5, a carry. And then if
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: he doesn't get the one that busts off, it's like, Oh,
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: but I thought he was going to get all these carries.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: He did.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: He just didn't do shit with them. And that's a problem.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Do you have any thoughts on the defenses at all
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: or how you'd mix those in?
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, the jets are 2,200. People are going
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: to want to save at defense. I don't, defense is
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: always so tricky for me to be honest. I'm thinking like,
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: all right, I'm just going to spend up at defense
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: or spend more mid tier, but then it's like, well,
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: then you're sacrificing these skill position players at a very
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: high variance position. So yeah, I'm getting a decent amount
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: of jets, which is kind of scary, but I mean,
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: David Bailey is a beast. Like, they can get after
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: the quarterback. And Drake May, again, three weeks ago, like,
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: Jets would be 20% right now. Drake May was broken.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: Now Drake May's the man. I mean, it's such a
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: week-to-week league. Don't hate the Jets. Pats are expensive. But, yeah,
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: the more you look at it, they leverage off of
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: some Allen stuff. Garrett's getting a little ownership. But if
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: it is 21-0 or 14, and Geno has to drop
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: back in this game, and it's clear passing situations, he's
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: in for a long, long night. So maybe I should
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: boost them.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: A little bit.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: That's the one that I came around to a little
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: bit today there. Hoop, do you want to add anything
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: more after all the conversation? If not, we've got the
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: next game, Giants at home versus Saints.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: I'm good with the defense there. I'm getting Jets D
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, good game here. Saints, Giants, one of
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: the bigger totals, 46.5, 47 range. Chris LaVey was questionable
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: but is going to play, which is definitely good for
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: this game. On the Giants side, Isaiah likely is going
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: to be pretty popular. I mean, 13 targets, 12 targets
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: the last two weeks. It's basically him and neighbors, really.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I just saw a report that Najee Harris is going
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: to take some of the work from Cam Scadaboo, so
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: that's definitely not great. Don't need to really worry about
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: that situation. Can kind of ax them both out and
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: move on. But with Jameis back there, it's turned into
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: a pretty– consolidated offense malik neighbors isaiah likely uh and
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: then if you want to play it you can run
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: it back with a lave or a valet i mean
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: we keep talking about valet i mean he's a legit
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: wide receiver too uh you know kind of out of
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: nowhere people didn't project it but the targets continue to
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: be there nine seven six nine six um these giants
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: games with jamis at quarterback have they have a chance
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: to kind of score a lot of points. He's willing
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: to chuck it. It's kind of what you want for
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: fantasy purposes. You could even throw Juwan Johnson in the
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: mix as well. I mean, at tight end has to
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: be low on with a lot of these other guys.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: I almost just prefer if I'm playing the Jameis stuff,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: just to double stack it, just give me everything and
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: hope they score a shit ton. And it goes to Jameis.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: or Jameis goes to neighbors and likely a lot of
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: people do just like single stacking. That's one thing I've noticed.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: They'll just take one of them and move on. Like
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: give me the double and run it back with a
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: lave or valet. I think it's a really strong stack
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: on the slate. And, you know, Jameis, you know, pretty
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: much no ownership. Neighbors will have some, likely he's going
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: to have a lot, a lave, valet, not much ownership
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: on the other side. So overall that pairing combination is,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: I think will be relatively low owned. And I like
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: it quite a bit today.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Yes. Where are you at on this one title with
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: the Najee Harris news and scataboo. And then obviously you
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: got likely popular neighbors, popular. We know that there'll be
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: more popular in those stacks, but like who said, maybe
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: more single stacks, Olave at least kept the Q tag
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: all week, I guess is something, but you know, he's
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: still probably going to be 10%. So I mean, it'll
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: be big in these stacks, whether they're single or double.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: So how are you thinking about this game yourself?
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was going to ask, do you really think
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: Olave stays at 10%? I mean, I– Wait, you think it's.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Going to be low? five oh yeah yeah no i
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: think i think lower yeah i agree.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: With you yes yeah i'm saying i think that that's
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: true yes but i'm saying the thing is like he's
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: the one in these stacks it's gonna.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Be i just think it's kind of hard still to
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: go i mean neighbors and likely in a lot of
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: a yeah maybe um you're definitely right. People still don't,
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: I don't think they force runbacks as much as, as
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: much as we might think. And right, wrong. I don't know.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you look at the Sims, you can
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: go both ways.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: He had that Q tag all week. He has an
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: expensive price. Roster construction is difficult. I think it's closer
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: to five than 10. Yeah, I agree.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: So, I mean, for that reason alone, Chris Olave can
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: blow up any slates. Like that's, I'm looking at the
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: same stuff and I mean, to start the year, like
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: I said, it's such a, week-to-week game. Shuck and these
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: guys were absolutely dominating, and I know it was the
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: second half in the Lions. They've been bad at times,
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: but Shuck can run. Chris Olave's been a monster. Vele's
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: been a great wide receiver, too. Now he's priced in that, like,
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: right next to Cardinal Tate, and he's priced like a
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: wide receiver one for some of these teams. But, I mean,
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: he's a great pivot, in my opinion, at a third,
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: a fourth of the ownership as Tate. And then Jawan
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: Johnson at 4,500. No one wants to play him now
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: at tight end, right in a pivot position. From Isaiah Likely,
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: both these teams are in play for about 23 points.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: You're flipping a chalk neighbors, a chalk likely to all
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: these guys I think are going to be single digits
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: on the Saints side. Don't also mind playing Saints defense.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: We know Jameis. I mean, he can make plenty of
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: mistakes and really bad ones. And again, that leverages off
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: some of the Likely and neighbors ownership. Now talking about
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: those two though, I mean, yeah, it's sad. Like we loved,
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: I loved Likely last week and When you like something
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: and it goes well, but you need other stuff to
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: go right in DFS, it's kind of tilting. Because then
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: the next week, all right, he's double, triple the ownership.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: And it's like, now what do I do? Sometimes I
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: just get so narrowed in. Like Michael Wilson, I'm still
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: going to play him. Well, I don't know. Results-oriented, right
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: or wrong, who knows?
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: I like that one better, for sure.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I love Michael Wilson this week, but I do
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: every single week. But yeah, it's more fun to play
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: those guys when they're low-owned at 5% than when they're 25%.
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: Do I like likely?
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, the target share has been great. He's way
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: too cheap. The tight end position, I'm playing double tight end.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: I do like it. Do I like neighbors?
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: Same thing. I still think he's underpriced, but it's going
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: to be so highly owned. So I kind of like
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: going to the sane side and stacking it and then
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: picking one of them. So at least you're eating some
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: chalk and a good play. And then you're playing the
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: single digit stuff. Again, I still like some of them.
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: Winston might get a little steam. I mean, Hoop said
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: it earlier. What did he say? Drake May got me
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: 10th in the Millie, so I'm playing him this week.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: People that won with Jameis Winston last week, easy stacking targets.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: Let's throw in Jameis Winston. He's cheap. So, I don't know.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: I think St. Steve's interesting and DFS-wise seeing all single digits.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: I'm going to be a little overweight on the St.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Stuff. Yeah, you can do that.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: Somebody just said in the chat later on, we'll get
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: to it, but said, I got a Taylor Swift and
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: a Kelsey Taylor Swift, Kelsey today with the Deandre Swift
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: in the early slate.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: So our earlier part of.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: The day, but Isaiah likely, you know, that's his name,
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: but it's Isaiah lovely for people today over, you know,
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: big time ownership over there on that side. Like you said,
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: people are going to use them in the two tight
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: end lineups as a one-off. People are going to stack
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: them up with Winston. There's a ton of action going
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: there and there's cheap tight ends that you can correlate
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: with your lineups. There's also, you know, the Brock Bowers
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: of the slate, the Trey McBride, those guys later on too.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: So we'll talk about more options when we get there.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: If Olave does, I mean, I guess the Olave part,
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: you guys are, I think, nailing it with that. I
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: don't know if that, you know, gets everybody more excited
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: about him knowing that he's going to be five versus 10%,
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: but I do think there's ways that you can build.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: One thing that is a little bit overlooked with like
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: the Scataboo, Harris News, all that stuff. And even we
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: talk about on the stone because people bring up these
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: report cards. We usually don't even bring them out till
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: week seven with looking at it. But I think Hoop,
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: it was you that brought it up last week just
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: as we round things out in this game. Everyone just
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: says the saints can't stop the run. They've played Jameer Gibbs,
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: Derek Henry, Bijan Robinson. Like that's the setup there. And,
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: and I think it was Aaron Jones last week who,
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: what did, what do you end up getting them? Like
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: 20 points, drafting points, something like that. Yeah.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: Jones are good again. It was good. It was a
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: lot of opportunity. It was fine.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's my thing.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: And so trying to figure this situation out, but if
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: you were looking for a leverage play today, it would
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: definitely be scat at 5,800. He's a thousand more than
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: likely he's at a different position. There's a bunch of
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: cheap running backs that people are playing. It's a Braylon Allen,
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: a hundred bucks more. You go to scat like that
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: sort of thing. But did you have anything more to
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: add on that hoop? Just because also people are playing
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Winston neighbors or likely, or some mix of them.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Not many people are playing scat.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Now you get the you know, owner beware news of this,
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: you know, Najee Harris stuff, but just, you didn't used
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: to say Najee Harris had bricks for feet.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. This guy really coming in and getting her done.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: So, so, so, so bad. Is the question, am I
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: playing Scataboo?
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Do you have any chance?
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: No, I'm not.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: I can't, I can't do that.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: No. Yeah, it was you.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: It was you, I believe, that brought up with the
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: Saints playing the best running backs when we were talking about.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got you got to dig in sometimes. I mean,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: if you got definitely got to take it into context and,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: you know, dig a little deeper.
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: Sully, the Giants fan, too. So this is his home team.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: You watch a lot. I agree. I think you'll see
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: that as well. So it's it's messy.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: All right, Hoop, I'll stay with you. Let's go to
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: the next one. We've got the Eagles at home versus
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: the Panthers. And the one from last night was, is
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: it Tanner McKee to unlocking the slate? Is he the
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: key that we need to go with over here? He's
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: only 4,000 bucks and you could stack them. You could
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: play them by himself. But if you put someone like
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: McKee and Goddard or anything that you really want to do.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: In this game, him with anyone, except maybe And I'm
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: not saying don't play him with Smith.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I think people are more likely to
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: try and fit everything in by going McKee Pierce, McKee naked,
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: McKee Goddard. I'll talk more on it when we get there,
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: but what's your thoughts on this Eagle spot at home
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: versus the Panthers? Yeah.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, it kind of, it's the one path that
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: unlocks everything that you want to do. We already talked
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: about roster construction being a little bit more difficult. So
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: if you play a 4k quarterback and a cheap tight end,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: you can get everything else on the slate. Now, the
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: one thing, for sure, is if you do that, you're
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: going to have the same sort of team that everyone
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: has in these McKee stacks. Like if anyone playing McKee
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: with Goddard, they're playing Bijon, they're playing Puka, like they're
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: just plugging in in the stud. So I would be
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: a little careful when doing that. Now, you know, if
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: you're building 150, maybe it just kind of happens like that. Like,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: so I'll probably have some teams like that. But if
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: I was hand building, I would look for a secondary
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: correlation in my lineup. So if you're playing McKee with Goddard,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: which I think is the route that most people are
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: going to do, make sure you have a secondary strong
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: correlation in there of another game, maybe a two and
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: a one or something like that, or even over stack
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: another game. So that's one thing I will say. I
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: am playing McKee. I am playing Goddard. And I'm going
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: to play like Devonta Smith. Like, listen, like there's no
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: way McKee is that much worse at throwing the football
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: than Jalen Hurts has been this season. Like there's just
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: no way. Hurts has been absolute fucking buns, right? We're
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: going to buns. We're using buns. The kids like buns.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: He's been buns throwing the football Hurts. There's no way
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: this McKee guy can be all that much worse than
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: what Jalen Hurts has done this year. So if playing
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: McKee and you're building a bunch of teams, I would
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: definitely make sure to get Devonta Smith in there. Low,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: low ownership on Smith. Uh, we're showing, I don't.
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: Have it up.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: It'll be nothing.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: It'll, it'll be two because it's the same price as London, right?
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Basically for me, like I want to make sure I'm
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: getting some Devonta Smith, uh, with, with Tanner McKee. Cause
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are just going to go.
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: The cheap route.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: And, you know, also another thing I don't think many
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: people are going to do is I don't think many
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: people have run backs on the other side when they're
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: playing McKee, but you have options here. You got Hubbard.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Really good play. You have Tett, who's way overpriced. You
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: look at Tett at 70, not overpriced, but expensive, and
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: people are going to look at that. Then you've got Coker, too,
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: or Waller. Waller is another cheap option. A couple things
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: to do if you're playing Tanner McKee stuff. Include Devonta Smith,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: include a secondary stack, or even something on the other side.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Run it back to something on the other side, because
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think many people are going to do it.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: I'm with you on all that stuff and I'm going
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: to talk about it, but I got to go on mute.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Title just making me laugh and shit when he's posting
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: the chat. But I will say, this is my take.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: I want to get both of you guys' thoughts on
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: this quick. And the chat too.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: When someone does this, it's like a pet peeve of mine.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: I know like Puka makes a huge catch and everyone's like,
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: it's like a fantastic catch for 40 yards.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: It's not people like Puka or something like that. It's
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: a touchdown. Don't do that if it's not a touchdown.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: That's my takeaway. When you say something like that, I
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: hope they score it. I don't care about a damn–
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: we play fantasy and we want the points. I don't
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: care like a nice catch.
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: Unless it's an OBJ one-hander or something.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: That was for touchdown though, right? I forget if we
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: called it back to one.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: Was it at the one?
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: It's got to be– for me, if you're doing that,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: it's got to be the minimum equivalent of a touchdown.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: So if it's a running back, it's got to be
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: like a 60-yard run.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: If it's uh well this was this i think it
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: was like a 50 yard catch so you got your
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: six points 42 so it doesn't count oh there you
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: go hoops locked in 42 is locked in doesn't count.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: What i'm trying to say is that's why we have
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: discords like we have a wonderful discord over at the
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: ship and age community we can chat I mean, Tyler,
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: I was just like, damn, that was a sick catch
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: or Jamar human. Like that's nuts on the sideline, et cetera.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: But when you blast someone's name out there with multiple
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: vowels or.
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: Anything, multiple, that's what it is. Yeah. You got me.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: That's what made me laugh.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: That's what, when you said it the same way, it's like,
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: I had that almost in my head being like, damn,
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: I know I got Nico captain lineups.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: Like that should be solid. Maybe he still gets there,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: but yeah. Um, Okay, now I want to go back
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: to the game.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Eagles at the Panthers and say, I love what Hoop
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: said about the McKee-Goddard stuff.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: It's like, okay, put Pigeon, put Puka, put all the...
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: It's not... Look, I honestly don't think you'll fully dupe completely.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: It's not like Showdown where you do that stuff and
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: it gets all the way there, but you are going
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: to be close enough. So I'm thinking about things like
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: Hoop said. I kind of want to see this game
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: go off if it's happening. And I've seen this work
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: in the past. And funny enough, it was with.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Uh, what's that dude's name, man.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: Gardner Minshew back in the day for the Eagles coming
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: in and everyone just played him. And maybe it was
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: earths at the time, but it was like, you actually
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: needed the full game stack because of it. And not,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: it has nothing to do with today. I'm just saying,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: you've got to think about it differently. I think Coker
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: is back and healthy and in a good spot. We
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: know what Tetris did his last game before the buy
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: Chuba Hubbard.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: Trevor ETN is back, but Chuba Hubbard is still capable
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: and gets a ton of carries and goal line stuff
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: and all of that.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: So what I'm thinking about is twofold.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: One, stacking a little bit further than most would go
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: instead of just getting all the pieces. Higher dollar or
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: smaller field stuff. I understand just like trying to plug
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: it all in because you probably, you know, while you'll
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: have a similar McKee line with someone else, it won't
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: be as popular as what the rest of the field
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: is doing. But one thing I'll say is you got
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: to think about also what you're doing. I know Bijan
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: will be in a lot of the Tanner McKee Goddard lineups.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: So maybe I don't play Bijan and Puka. But I
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: also know that when I played Devontae Smith instead of London,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: where do those London points go?
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Well, they're probably going to Bijan.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: So I would say if you have Bijan, but no
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: London and no Puka in your McKee lineup because you
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: played Devontae Smith, then I think that's interesting, right? If
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: you're taking up two wide receiver positions with Smith and Coker,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: you're in a different place already. And then you've got
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: that game stack or whatever you're doing. So there is
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: ways to get different here. Not sure if this guy
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: is going to be any good, but when there's a
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: 4k quarterback on the slate, I'm trying to figure that out.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: Some at least title. I'll kick it.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: Over to you. Yeah, no, I think you made a
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: lot of really good points about like, cause yeah, I mean,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: when people play McKee and more than likely will be Goddard,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: but then like you said, with the B John and
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: the London, that's, that's how you should think of DFS.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: And especially when the single entry, when you're hand-building is,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: Like I'll admit, like I play so many teams, hundreds
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: and hundreds and hundreds. I don't hand build nearly as much.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: So it's harder for me to do that individually. But
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: I think you can have a leg up on people
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: like myself who don't have the time to just go
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: through all that because you're thinking about levels and what
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: makes sense in the game theory. So I think that
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: was a really sharp point by you. I'll never say
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: no to a 4K quarterback on a slate that's tight
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: in pricing that allows you to jam studs. So I'm
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: not here to talk anyone out of Tanner McKee. He
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: only has a 201 and a half passing prop. If
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: someone like, and there's enough quarterbacks on the slate where
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: I think someone separates to an extent. So it's not
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: really for me. If I did do it, I would
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: eat the chalk and just go him to God or like, man,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: that Devonta Smith price tag is up there and really
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: has to do something. But again, it's going to be
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: low owned. Damian Pierce, I think is one of the
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: worst plays on the slate. So I'm ready to eat
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: those words. The dude, I mean, they couldn't run the
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: ball with Saquon. Now Damian Pierce in 2026 is going
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: to do something. Uh, yeah. Good luck. Uh, I need
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: Damian Pierce lovers out there. The Coke man though. Oh yeah.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: Jalen Coker day. I'm struggling to get different on a
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: slate like this 7.6%. I see. Yeah. Maybe that's accurate.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: Still in single digits at 5,900 for a grown man
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: that can explode at any time. So I think Coker
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: is an elite play and not only is he a
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: good play because he's by himself, Chuba Hubbard is going
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: to get some ownership in this game as well. Um,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: And Panthers defense. So if Coker goes off, maybe he
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: speeds it up. Gives the Eagles the ball a little more.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: He's my favorite. Probably run back. I like Chuba, but
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: he's getting ownership. I don't have like a strong take
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: to the field. I do like Ramondre more for 300 less.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: And then Panthers defense. I always struggle with this stuff. Like, yeah,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: if I just run my stuff and don't do anything,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: I'm going to get a lot of Panthers defense. They're chalky, though.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: High variance position. I don't know. I don't love eating
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: Chalk D most weeks. It makes some sense. Yeah.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: So you talk about what you, what you guys are
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: going to do about a Panthers defense. If you could,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: what are we projecting them? 17%. Let me, let me
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: say you're coming in at 24%. What would you do?
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'll probably be like, I'll probably be slightly underweight
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: just cause I spread it out a bit more, but
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: they obviously project well and they're in a spot again.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: I think that's more of like, I like to do this.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: I know it's not required, but I'm saying if I'm
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: doing that and they're actually keeping them in the game,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: I probably want somebody going with it for sure.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: The one thing I do is if I'm building 150,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: which I am, and there's a popular defense like that,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: I'm making sure I get exposure to some of the spends,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: like some of the more expensive defenses to, to kind
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: of offset it. But I don't know, like defense really
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: hasn't been a, it's not ever really a huge factor,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: even with like the, the chalk to you.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, you wanted jets last week. And then what
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: was it, like two weeks ago?
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: Remember the Bengals? Like a couple years ago, either last
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: year or the year before.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: Oh, of course I remember.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: I think it was 35% or something.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Yep. It was crazy.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: And that was the talk around town. I saw sharp
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: people on both sides, though. So that kind of just proves, like,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: it's not a solved game by any means. Some sharp
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: people are like, yeah. You got to pick your stand.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: This one, I am not even pulling it off. That
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: was a good one. I didn't fully catch that in
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: real time, but, man, that's crazy.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: He's a grown man. He can't explode. So there you go.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: Probably in a lot of ways.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: A grown man can't explode at any time.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: I caught that. I just let it slide, though.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: What was the thing I was just going to say, too?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: There was something else you just reminded me of.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: You guys played Damien Pearce. I mean, obviously you're playing
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: in a lot of Linus, but like, do you like,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: if you're playing five teams, do you like them?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: I actually think I have zero. Oh, wow.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: I think again, it's just a more of a play
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: against that Panthers D. That's the thing. So, you know,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: the side that I'm standing on.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: Him or Algier. Like, let's talk like cheap running backs.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: We'll get to him later. I don't love him unless
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: he's in the game stack.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: I want that game to actually be tight and going
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: back and forth more than playing a 12 and a
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: half point dog just because he's the starter or whatever.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: At 4,800.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: He's, he's the one.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: Let's just say Spears is out, and then let's say
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: Junkins is out. Again, both might not be, but McLaughlin
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: and Tony Pollard. Do you have any takes on how
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: you rank those? I'd be on the Pollard side for sure. Yeah, Pollard.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: Ownership probably would too, but I.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Know what I was going to say now.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: Cause what I got caught up in when you guys
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: were there, that catch is called doing your job. By
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: the way, Nico Collins literally just caught a ball like
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: a normal human.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Like he jumped and caught it. Oh my God. He's
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: a wide receiver. One, one of the best in the NFL.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: That ain't nothing.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: Don't ever put Nico in the chat for that shit.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: 40 yard catch. Congrats to doing your job. It's like
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: if a, you know, an NBA player dunked a ball.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: Wow. speaking of nba a couple more days.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: Couple more days you know we're going with that one
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: exactly excited for that so all right we'll go to
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: back we we're almost to the afternoon here now we've
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: got four games left to go to cover we've got
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: the first one up here hoop i'll stay with you
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: steelers at the buccaneers.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh man yeah definitely get us to the afternoon
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: games uh not not too much if you want yeah
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: The one I do really like, and let me check
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: on the ownership here because I don't want it to
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: be super popular.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: It's high.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's high. But these are the guys that Aaron
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: Rodgers loves, so I'm not going to be on them.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: The Bernard guy at 4K, he loves these little dudes.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: Bernard had nine targets last week. Nine targets. Earned the
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: trust from Aaron Rodgers. There's not a ton of value
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: at Wide receiver. That's why the ownership is going to
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: be a little bit inflated. But I just I don't care.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: I'm playing Bernard at 4K and Kate Otten, cheap tight end,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: low total 38. Like, yeah, just not much interest here.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm Bernard, despite some ownership.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: How do we answer this one? Shot at the can't
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: get right.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: Still thinking he can't get it right. Cause he's asking,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: but a three wide receiver league. It's a season long
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: says Purdy Brown, Scataboo, London, St. Brown, Higgins, Tootin, Kittle
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: four and one.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming is his record. Should I make any moves?
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: The tricky part is it doesn't look like you gave
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: us any moves. So what, what do you ask?
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Don't put any more money, please. We appreciate it, but
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: don't worry about it.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: Just put, what you're considering, like what, let us know.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: It's easier to let us know what you want or
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: don't want out of that. And we can definitely tell
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: you where we'd be at based on our data and
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: just our mindset for the slate.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: So appreciate you. Let us know.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: Here's your question title. Cause I'm kicking it to you
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: on this game. Sully says how much Jeremy is too much.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: 35%.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: He's he's the, he's the value wide receiver chalk guy
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: that if I had to eat one, like we'll get
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: to worthy later and stuff. Like I feel most comfortable
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: with Bernard, which, Might feel weird, but yeah, I mean,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: watching Rodgers for all these years, when he has a
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: good rapport with someone, when he trusts someone, he just
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: gets the ball out pretty fast for the most part.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: Good decision-making. But Bernard was, yeah, 47th pick in the
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: draft this past year. I drafted a ton in best ball.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: He actually is a good player. And when Jalen Warren
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: is Jalen Warren, he's been so good. When DK's on
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: the field, the defense cannot worry about Jeremy Bernard. So
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: when he has the right matchup, Rodgers is going to
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: go to him at this price tag. So yeah, I mean,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: I think 35%, what do we have projected in ownership?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: 13 i mean i think that might be like 18
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: 20 i'm i've had nervous there is steam um but
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: yeah i i plan on being over the field for
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: sure on him to be honest all of the or
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: multiple of these dealers i'm going to be playing today
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: jaylen warren go ahead off no i i thought you
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: were done sorry man go ahead It's like the Buccaneers
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: have been a pass funnel forever with Pat or with
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: Todd Bowles. So Warren, while on the ground is a
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: little worrisome. Like I know Rico's back. That's why the
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: ownership's really low. Like anyone that's watched the Steelers this
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: year knows Jalen Warren has been one of the best
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: running backs in football. Mike McCarthy, I guess I'm going
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: to trust them, which is really bad to say, but
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: he's like, it's going to be Warren for the most part.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: He is just so good. at football. Rodgers loves him.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: You need him on the field if you want to win,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: which they want to do. 7K, it's single-digit ownership, is
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: someone that I want to play in tournaments. And then, yeah,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: DK Metcalf and Darnell Washington. Frymuth was another late addition
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: to the injury report. It looks like he's going to play.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: But 2,900, Darnell Washington, again, if we wanted stars and
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: scrubs or you want to play these guys, I like
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: him more than Charlie Kohler at 2,500 when we get
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: to later. This is a grown man that Gets a
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: lot of red zone targets. So he's going to be
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: someone at very low ownership I'm playing. And then DK, again,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: he's 8% worth showing, maybe a little lower, who knows.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: But it's that 5K range, kind of like Coker. Single digits.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: He hasn't done it yet, but he can explode at
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: any single week. And I'm going to play chalk stuff,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: so I'm looking at ways to get different when I'm
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: playing chalk. I think Washington, DK's one. I'll let you
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: guys talk about Rodgers. If I like all these guys,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: naturally I should like Aaron Rodgers, but it's kind of tough.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I'll let you. I don't like the
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: box side.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: Feels like the Rogers thing could be the one you
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: talked about earlier, where you like something one week, you
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: don't play it the next week.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: And then it happens.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: I just don't know if I, on this slate, I
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: know it's only 10 games, but with all the other
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: stuff going.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: On, it feels trickier to get to.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: I was bringing this up, sorry to cut you off,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: but it was, this was when, um, kid light and said,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: Raymond would be, so this is my example from earlier, uh,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: not going to project anywhere close to Jeremy. Fine if
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: you're running some Caleb stacks and you've got Jeremy in
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: there as the one-off, I get it. But as the
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: chalk one-off versus a way to get different within a
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: popular game stack for a hundred bucks less with Raymond,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: I would honestly take my shots.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: It's double whammy to your build. It's triple whammy, really.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: It can give you the.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: Raymond points, which then give you more Caleb points, which
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: then knock down the Jeremy point. Again, Jeremy can still
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: hit up the points, but Yeah, breaking news. That's my
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: point for points here, but breaking news. Did we just
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: get it, the first hoop break of the season?
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: I think we did.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: We did.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: Is it the first or second?
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Man, I think it's the first.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: It's the first bathroom break, maybe, because I think the
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: first one he had to go do something quick or something,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: and then he said it wasn't bathroom.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: Thermostat or something.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, something.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, so the counter will at
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: least go up one, but you have to get it
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: in before the afternoon games start. Mind you, you were
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: going to ask him about the Rodgers stuff here too.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what's your thought? I mean, again, if I'm– if
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: Jeremy's– like we said earlier at the pre-show, you want
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: to stack. Like if these guys fully go off, their
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: quarterback probably goes along. He's 5,500, which is a little
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: couple hundred more over price, but he's 1% owned. If
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: DK goes eight for 150 and two, I mean, you're
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: not going to be mad having Rodgers on a slate
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: like this. I don't– there's no rushing upside, but I mean,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: they sling the ball. Like they– Rodgers loves getting his
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: throwing touchdowns. It doesn't matter where on the field, Darnell, DK,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: like he has four touchdown upside.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: It is number two.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: I can be a break in that number. I didn't
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: go number two. It's number two.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: And the chat's waiting on the first poop 24, 10.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: That hasn't happened yet, but who, your, your thoughts here,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: we were talking about the Steelers at the box.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just like I said, Bernard Otten. I don't think
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: I can get there with Aaron Rodgers. I don't think
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: I can get all the way there.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: Darnell, your boy?
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, in on him. I'll take that back. I'm
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: in on him. Friermuth expected to play, but Washington, it's
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: one play, man. Just like he can run dudes over
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: for 40 yards. So I'm in on Washington. Yeah, I'm
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: in on that, too.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, at least when Washington does something for 40 yards,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: it's much better than the Nico thing. Like you said,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: he might just punch somebody in the chest and keep running, and.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: It's insane how good he is there. But yeah, I
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: don't have too much else to add on this one.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: I guess like the Steelers' D is not getting talked
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: about because everyone's either going high or low.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: That would be something. I think even.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: I guess my other takeaway is if you're not going
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: to be on the Rogers stuff, the way he's slinging it.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: And if Jeremy's popular and all of that, you could
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: just be on the bucks D for 2,600 here at home.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: It's, it could definitely be a spot. I just don't
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: love any of the bucks or want to try and
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: figure it out too much here. So yeah, really just.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Fan duel bucks. He's like 3,200. So they, they will
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: be pretty popular over there, but not so much on DK. Okay.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: That's right too.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: Should bring that up last week.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: I think it was the commanders got to, I want
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: to say 60% in the juggernaut over there. I know
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: it's a 3k buy and it's a smaller field, but
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying it got up there versus even the
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: projected number was, you know, 25 to 28 or something
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: for big boy stuff.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: Nope. 60%. So people just click it in and roll it.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: So that'll be the bucks this week. All right. You
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: got to the afternoon. We've got Randy Moss Jr. to
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: kick things off. And I'm not talking about Puka Nakua.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about Michael Wilson over there, Title. So I'll
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: let you start.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: With this one, you talked about earlier, a lot of
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: people going to Stafford, you do the cash game countdown
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: every Friday. I mean, somebody, if when this show ends,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: if you want to watch the cash game countdown, get
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: an idea there for, you know, 10 minutes, you can
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: basically be through it pretty much and check that out.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: But Stafford, Puka, you know, Algier, you mentioned hopping in
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: at $ 4, 800.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: And then there is all the other names that I
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: didn't even mention of, you know, the Borns, the Adams,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: the Higbees, the McBrides, lots of names in this game.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: So give me your thoughts on this one.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the game of the week, again, and it's one-sided
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: this time in terms of the ownership. Rams implied for
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: 32 points, 32 and a half, by far the most
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: on the slate. It's like, yeah, I mean, these guys,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, especially coming off that Monday loss, like they're
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: going to put their foot down until I think it's,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, just like the Lions did last week until
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: almost the very last possession. Goff and them were out there.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: They were getting the job done. I think the Rams
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: must win for them today. And what the nice thing is,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: is it's concentrated to an extent, but then it's not. Like,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: it is because it's Puka, it's Devontae, Higby. But the
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: Kyron Corum situation is tough. I still think, like, ownership
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: is too low on Puka, Kyron, Stafford, maybe Higby, maybe Devontae. Like,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: all their ceilings are just nuking the slate. Like, you
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: just absolutely need them. So I want to get overweight
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: in all those guys and play a lot of Rams.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: And that's why I'm talking about these low-owned plays, trying
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: to get different. in certain stuff because I'm going to
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: jam this game. How you can get different to an
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: extent is the runbacks. Michael Wilson, yeah, I don't believe
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: really that he's going to be 8% at 6,700. I
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: think he'll probably be a little lower. A lot will
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: be in game stacks. The king of garbage time. Bursette
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: almost got the bonus last week from garbage time as well.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: So good, even if he duds in the first half,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: he has outs in the second half. Bourne, I don't
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: hate him as well. Again, 4K, everyone's talking about Bernard,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: all these other cheapies. He's going to be on the
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: field a good amount. I think they're going to be
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: down and having to sling it. He got some garbage
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: time last week as well. Trey McBride's tough. He's going
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: to be in the pool. $ 7, 200 is a big price tag,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: but again, same thing. If this game truly explodes and
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: the Rams get there fully, fully, it's probably McBride helping
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: to keep it close for him. He got there also
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: in garbage time with a great catch. The one thing
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: that I'm really trying to figure out, again, I don't
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: have hot takes. I'm playing all these chalk guys. I
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: like Stafford a lot. Double them, playing with Kyron, triple
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: them with the run back. All that's viable is Blake Corum.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: You're going to need to bump him if you get
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: to him. And I really think I'm going to bump
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: him because it feels like even in close games, Corum's
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: in there. We saw it last week on Monday. If
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: it does get out of hand. Blake Corham's going to
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: be out there getting more opportunity. And the projection just
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: feels a little light for how easy the matchup is.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: And he's 4,800. I think Algiers does. I think Damian
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: Pierce does. McLaughlin might be does. He's lower on than
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: all of those guys in a pivot in that range.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: You can use him in three running back builds. He's
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: the same price as Isaiah likely. I just think there's
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: a lot of outs there. And then you don't play
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: him with Kyron. Then you just leverage off Kyron chalk.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: So he has outs in close games. And then he
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: has the nut outcome. in, in games that get away.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: So I think I'm going to manually bump a backup
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: running back, which feels weird on a 10 game main slate,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: but I'm all ears for you guys in this one. I,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: that was my leverage lane yesterday was, was Blake.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: I think that's, important to think about.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: So in the close games, he's still in the mix by,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: by the way, like, again, people will just box score watch, but, um,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: talk about good plays.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: Like he'd make fun of the Nico one.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: Like his play last week was close to explosive where
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: he almost got loose for the full finish. I know
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: almost doesn't matter, but I'm saying just the elusiveness that
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: he can potentially have the snapshot he's getting in close games,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: let alone when they get to a blowout.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: And if that ends up happening here, it could be
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: even bigger.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: So, um, Not saying you got to take a ton
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: of points, but this is kind of where you can
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: take a really good set of projections and just change
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: it slightly. If you want to take the 21.6 on
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: Williams and change the 8.9 to two up, two down,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: and just see what it does for your portfolio. I'm
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: fine with something like that. If that's how you truly feel,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: you can play the game. I think the other thing, Hoop,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: just kicking it over to you here is- Nobody wants
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: McBride and I get it, right? But you know, 300
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: bucks more, you can get Bowers, et cetera, et cetera.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: But he's definitely an option here in this. And then
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: you've got Michael Wilson, 6,700. Well, Drake London's only a
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: little bit more. So I'm looking for ways to build differently.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: And I think one of the first thoughts I have
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: is like Stafford, Puka, Adams, Higby, and then maybe Michael Wilson.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: But I, you know, I kind of want to like,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: just use up all your wide receiver spots, use four
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: guys from the other side, but The other thing too is,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: you know, I'd probably really are mostly want Algier in
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: the game stack.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: I don't, I know he's only 4,800 and like blah, blah, blah.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: But it's like, like I said, I just, if I'm
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: playing a one-off from this game or using a one-off
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: that way, I would probably just play Corum and give
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: Corum his projection too. And just say, it's because of
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: the blowout, you end up just needing Corum and the
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: other stuff gets too spread out. But give us your
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: thoughts here with this one, who big, big time opportunity
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: for over stack as well.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like the Blake Quorum stuff, I think, you know,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: makes sense on this sort of slate where we don't–
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: where we need salary relief. Roster construction is a little
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: bit more difficult. And, you know, there could be– like
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: when roster construction is a little bit more difficult, you
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: can kind of lower what you need out of each position,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: if that makes sense. So like 18 or something from
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: Quorum could be enough. So I think it definitely– makes sense.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: You want some exposure to the Rams, clearly. You know,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: just everything you guys said, and then, like, I do
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: really like Higby at 3,400 at tight end. I think,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: you know, he's been very involved three straight weeks, so
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: I think he's a really strong play. The one thing
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: that I kind of talked about in the opening with
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals, they kept their main guys in all the
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: way through, and they're getting their ass kicked last week
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: against the Lions down what, three, four touchdowns. And those
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: guys went all the way to the end. Trey McBride
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: got the garbage touchdown. Like, why would they change it
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: again today? Like, I think these guys play to the end.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: So like, I don't think you absolutely need to have
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: a run back if you're playing some of the Rams
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: of the Matthew Stafford stuff, but the case for it,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: I think is stronger than, than people realize. Like if
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: you're going to get garbage, like this is the team
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: you want garbage time with too. I mean, you got
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: Brissette just willing to sling it to his guys, Wilson McBride.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: So So one thing to keep in mind, if you
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: are hand building or setting up rules in the optimizer,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: I do like having a run back here. Not necessity,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: like not a must, but like I do like it
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: because their guys were in all the way to then.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: Michael Wilson, Trey McBride. Trey McBride was fully busting until
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: garbage time last week. And then he was like needed.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: You needed him in your lineup. So that's just one thing.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: That's a big boost there for Wilson and McBride. born
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: look good like and then they stop playing them so
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: i'm fine you know getting a little bit of him
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: as well and then algier i mean i don't know
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: it is what it is like i it's probably a
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: necessity on the slate if you're building a lot of
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: teams like his price tag but it just does not
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: it doesn't feel good at all so i'll probably be
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: like underweight on algier um but all these rams guys
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: if you want to do the ram stuff a little
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: bit differently like you know to me davante adams probably
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: has to be the guy to look to, because I think,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: you know, Kyron's going to get a lot of ownership.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: Puka is going to get a lot of ownership and
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: Devante will get a good chunk, but we're showing 14.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: It could be lower because I think a lot of
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: people are just going to go straight to Puka. So,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: you know, Devante stands out as a strong option to me.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, this question here, like you can
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: do whatever you want, but if you've got a Stafford
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: three stack, I don't know about, playing the defense for
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: a hundred bucks more. You can play the defense in
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: the next game chargers at the chiefs, if you're not
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: unworthy or something like that. But even then I'd rather
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: be against like one PPR reception guy on my defense
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: than against the whole stack. That's going to hopefully, or
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: most you're telling the story if they're going to stack
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: up points. So that's the whole point. So, you know,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: it's going to be one pick six.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: But it's not as likely as the other stuff to happen.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: So All right, I don't have too much else here
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: with this one. The one key thing that stood out there, Hoop,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: that you said is the way the Cardinals just left
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: everybody in until the very end. That's why, like I
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: said earlier, I'm looking to run it back more than
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: just over stack a powerhouse offense here.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: I think that they're going to put up. the 30
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: plus as, as does Vegas 32 and a half. You
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: don't see that very often. That could be by halftime.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: We don't know.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: We've seen it in the past where the lions last
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: year had like a 31 and a half.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: And we said the same thing.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: And I think they had 38 at the half and
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: they ended up, you know, keep scoring and put up
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: 50 something. So these games do happen sometimes that way
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: title mentioned already with his stuff here, being involved in
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: this game. I think, you know, the over stack and
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: playing for it to actually have the back and forth is,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: is the best way to do it. And, A lot
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: of people are picking and choosing. If you're not on
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: this game, though, I will say I'm still looking at
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: Blake Corum, like I mentioned. I'm looking at Kyron in
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: some of those spots. I'm looking at Rams D with
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: either of those guys as a way to do it
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: at the highest price on the slate when we've got
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: a way to play it differently. And let's say you're
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: on a McKee stack or a Watson, if people love it,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: or the Ward stuff or Danny Jones or anything like
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: that stuff we talked about earlier. You've got the ability
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: to get to the Rams D if you want it to.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: So it's just something to be said there for that
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: as well. Second last game of the slate hoop. We
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: got the chargers at the chiefs, Xavier worthy, picking up steam,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: but other than that, not much ownership in this game.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: Where are you at with this one?
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: Uh, so Xavier worthy is a guy that's going to
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: get quite a bit of ownership with Rasheed rice out.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: Fine with it.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: Don't love it.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: I think title kind of touched on it. I prefer
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: Bernard over him. If you're in this range, uh, definitely
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: going to have worthy. Uh, there's no doubt about it, but, uh,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: don't feel great about it. After that, I think they're
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: just going to mix in a lot of different guys.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: So it makes it difficult. So, you know, worthy Kelsey's fine,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: but again, like same mindset with Jonathan Taylor, but to
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: even more of a degree is it just seems like
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker is like a forgotten guy on, on the
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: slate and the price is uncomfortable. And I don't think
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: people are going to come here just when you factor
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: in the ownership. And I think it's going to be
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: lower than everyone's showing and, We have it at 14.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: I think it could be 10. And to me, the
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: way I'm going to get exposure to the Chiefs offense
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: is Kenneth Walker. And again, I think it's probably like
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: 10% ownership. And there's just no way it's a lot.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: There's no way he gets steamed up or anything. It
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: just has to be held in check and lower than
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: what everyone's projecting. Same mindset with Jonathan Taylor. If you
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: go into Optimizer and just hit build me teams, you're
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: going to get a shit ton of double tight ends.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: So that means double tight end is going to be
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: popular today. That also means running back ownership is going
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: to come down. And that also means Kenneth Walker just
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: has to be a phenomenal play today. So love him.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: On the Chargers side. Ladd maybe, like Ladd McConkie. It
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: sounds like he's full, good to go, super cheap. I
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: think it was that our guy Ham was kind of
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: pumping it up, which I think makes sense. Ham had
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: a pretty good tweet or comment on it. I think
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: it does make some sense today. He could do a
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: little mini, a little, you know, Kenneth Walker, Ladd McConkie, low-owned,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: 1-1 sort of stack. So it's kind of where I'm
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: at in this game. Not really going to be on
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks or anything like that.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mentioned it earlier too, like the Kenneth Walker
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: for Bijan spot in a lot of different lineups where
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: you could do that.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: I think it is.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: very interesting on this slate because most will have it
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: set up differently. And a lot of those Caleb lineups
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: that we talked about earlier, like the Caleb stack with
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: Bijan makes a ton of sense, obviously, but you'll.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: See a lot of those lineups and then you know
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: who we'll have in there.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: They'll have Worthy in there later on because he's the
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: cheap guy that makes it all fit and allows you
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: to still get to Bijan and or London, et cetera.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: So you can flip that a little bit and make
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: it different that way. So I think there's something to
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: be said for that as well. Title, where are you
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: at with this one here? Chiefs at home versus the Chargers.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't like him much. Worthy's fine. Like I said,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 4: I prefer Bernard. He's going to be high-owned. He'll be
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: in some of my stuff. I would be lying if
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 4: I loved it at ownership. Definitely like Kenneth Walker a lot.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 4: Chiefs defense when I'm playing Kenneth Walker. It's a way
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 4: to maximize your ceiling. They're going to be low-owned. Chargers
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 4: have looked as bad as possible. And then Charlie Kohler,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: I guess, because he's 2,500. Maybe eight points at 2,500
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 4: is enough today to fill everything else out. But not
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: a game I like. It's a clear pivot of the
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 4: pivot in the afternoon game. If you need a late swap,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: hopefully I'm not there. Oh, last thing, Kelsey, cheaper on
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: FanDuel than DraftKings, which is almost unheard of. So if
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: you like him, you can play him on DraftKings. But yeah,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: he's going to get more ownership on FanDuel as well.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another one too, right?
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: When a lot of people are just immediately talking about worthy,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: it's like that can move to the tight end at
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: a onesie position. And if you're already not using one
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: of the big boys and you don't like something with
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: a stack or anything, you could always get different that
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: way as well. So I think that's another, just a
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: quick thought I like there. Chiefs D with them, another
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: expensive D, like I talked with the Rams previously, but
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: could do it. There's a lot of stuff you can
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: do in the afternoon with the late swap because of that, right?
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: If you do play one of those more expensive Ds,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: you probably also want to have... other pieces kicking around
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: it because then you can start to make moves. They've
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: even wanted to use the chargers D in this game.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: That's the other spot I would mention. It's not ideal.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: You're going up against my homes and points and Walker
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: and all of that, but they're just $ 2, 100 and they're
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: a pivot off the jets that are popular earlier in
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: the slate that we talked about. So I don't have
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: too much else. here with this one, let's go to
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: the final game of the slate. I guess one last
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: thing I was going to say, uh, title to you
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: about worthy is you can afford to lose a worthy
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: slate if he gets you because he's already made so
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: much money, uh, your captain in the super bowl for
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: 120 K or whatever it was close to. So, um,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: you you're easy, you know, it's easier for you to
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: say no to worthy, but I do feel like a
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: lot of people have the same sentiment there where it's like, look,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: it also might be, it might honestly be induced by
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: last week's charger situation, which is in this same game
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: when people played Trey Harris and he was $ 4, 100 slotted
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: in as the one didn't get anything done and then
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: got injured. Well, now it's worthy being slotted in, but
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: there's like Royals. I mean, this goes back to my
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: old never my home stuff, but you got Walker, Emma Johnson, Royals, Allen,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: and people are saying, who are these guys? You'll find
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: out when he throws to them today, because that is
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: guys that he will still use. So it's crazy, man. How,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: how nuts it is there. But other teams are turning
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: into that. You talked about it earlier with may even
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: tricky to get right. So final game of the slate,
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: a great one for DFS.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: I think hoop. We've got the Raiders at home versus
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: the bills.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a phenomenal game. I mean, you look at it,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: a big total in this one, mid-50s, which is kind
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: of what we want. I will say that it's tough
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: to kind of figure this one out because who do
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: you want if you're coming to this game? You want
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen, you want Brock Bowers, right? And those guys
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: are expensive. So if you are playing that sort of combination,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: you're going to have to make some big sacrifices uh
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: in your lineup and i guess the one piece of
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: news we don't have on the slate is dj more
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: uh which is is pretty big and this is in
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: the 425 uh 425 eastern game so it is uh
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: you know we're probably not going to have this news
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: before uh before lock so you have to be a
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: little uh you have to be open to making some
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: moves here if needed. I guess the one thing with,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: with Josh Allen, you clearly don't need to run it
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: back with anything as we saw in that primetime game, uh,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: just could not get anything going with any of his guys.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: Shakur had the one big catch Coleman had the, the
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: one touchdown, but outside of that, it was all Josh Allen. Um, So,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: you know, Kirk Cousins is going to be pretty popular,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: but then it's like, okay, if you do play Kirk Cousins,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: not popular, but he's going to get some ownership. Like,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: who do you run it back with? You don't need
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: to run it back with anyone. It's a difficult game
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: to kind of figure out how you want to go
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: about doing it. To me, like if I'm doing this,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to say, all right, I'm going to
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: take Josh Allen. I'm going to take Brock Bowers. And
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: then I'm going to figure out the rest. I think
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are going to try to do
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: that sort of combination. And then they're going to run
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: into some issues because you run out of salary pretty,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: pretty quick. You're going to have to make some sacrifices
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: in your lineup. I don't love Gente. I do like
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: the price tag, though. $ 6, 500 on DK is pretty darn appealing.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: He's a little more expensive on FanDuel. Trey Tucker's fine.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a pretty difficult one to figure out
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: the path that you want to take to kind of
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: stack it up. So it looks like Tambo might have
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: hit the bathroom break joining in, but yeah.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: Don't talk about man genti's in a good spot here
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: he's a good.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: Little good price good price 6500 i said that yeah.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: Practices back at that yeah and like you said we
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: are waiting on the dj more news so we'll see
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: that when we get to the afternoon um you know
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: you talked about alan with brock bowers and that set
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: up a title for me one thing i'll say that's
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: interesting about this spot is the you know, it's totally
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: different than the McKee cause you're going from the bottom
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: price quarterback all the way up to the top one.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: But most people don't know how to stack Josh Allen,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: nor do they want to.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 3: And we might actually get the opportunity to have an
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: even tighter tree than usual. If DJ more is out.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: I also think, um, Kincaid being in this spot is
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: interesting too. So, um, I, I actually like going with
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: something like Josh Allen, uh, couple wide receivers, maybe even
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: Kincaid and Bowers or getting Bowers there on the other
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: side as a way to stack this game differently and
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: hope to get all the way there.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: It's, and funny enough, it's the Raiders, um, our boy sheets.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: You remember when sheets came second.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: In the Millie and he had with Myers, Tucker and
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: Bowers and Bowers and Myers at the time, this was
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: last year before they all, everyone got moved all around
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: to the jets and the Jags and you name it.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: But They had, I think Myers had nine points, Bowers
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: had nine points, but Trey Tucker had 43. I'm just
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: saying it's like, you know, Keon Coleman, Josh Palmer, Kincaid,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: they cost like 13.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: 14 K for all three of them.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: And then you just hope Josh throws to them and
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: you over, you know, you jump the cook stuff. You
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: can run it back with Bowers or Tucker or both,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: like get after this game stack. But this reminds me
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: of like the Chicago Atlanta spot. When hoop said it,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: we know where people are going in this game. They're
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: on the, they're going to Caleb, they're going to burden
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: and they're going to one of London.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: Or Robinson here.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: A lot of people are just going cousins, Bowers and
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: cook or cousins, Tucker Bowers cook. because they can't figure
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: out the Allen stuff or don't want to try to.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: So I think if I'm going to, when I'm going
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: to play Josh Allen, I'm just trying to figure it
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 3: and get all the way there with it and hope
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: that everything else hits and they are cheap enough to.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: Make it work.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm on the same page. I hope DJ
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 4: Moore is out. Cause like Coleman at very low ownership,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: Kincaid at very low ownership, Shakira, very low ownership. It's tough,
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: but I think I'm fine playing any of them. I
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 4: prefer Josh with just skinny stacking with one of them.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 4: Cause again, if he's fully breaking the slate today, it's
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: going to be a lot, based on his legs, but yeah,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: James cook getting some ownership too. I feel like it's
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: everyone's favorite pivot of the pivot or whatever, which always
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: does garner some ownership and I'm fine with it as well.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 4: And on Josh Allen teams, but yeah, the, the pass
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 4: catchers on the bill side, no one's shown for above
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 4: 5% is something I have interest in because it's an
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 4: easy way to play Josh Allen. I just don't really
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 4: have as many hot tape. I think ownership's pretty efficient
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: for this game with on the field. I, I want
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 4: this game. It has a good total. Genting in a
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 4: good spot at a good price. The injury concerns a
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 4: little bit, but it makes sense. Bowers is the man.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 4: Buffalo can't stop anyone. James Cook is a somewhat leverage
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 4: off of Josh Allen. I know the fumble stuff and
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: all that. I don't buy it. Are they ever going
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 4: to play Ty Johnson and Ray Davis and put James
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: Cook on the sideline? I need to see it before
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: I believe it. Michael Mayer wasn't good last week, but
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 4: he's someone I'm going back to. How do you get
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 4: different with Kirk Cousins' stuff? not even just necessarily get different,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: save money when I'm going to be playing some double
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 4: tight end to allow jamming in Bijan, Puka, all of that.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: Mayer's a good tight end, 3,200. So yeah, I think
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: there's plenty of, what, Kirk Cousins, single digits, Trey Tucker,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 4: single digits, Kincaid, Mayer, Shakir, Coleman, all of those guys
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 4: I have interest in. So you can play a somewhat
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: chalky piece in this game, but still have plenty of
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: ways to get different. So yeah, I like it a lot.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: It's the afternoon window though, and DJ Moore's questionable. That's
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 4: the That's the annoying part, but it'll keep ownership down.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: I think we got a real tootin' touchdown this time.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: Adam G got us hooked up there, but yeah, I
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: think that's the other thing too, is like the Raiders
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: have almost a 25-point team total at home.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: The Bills have almost a 30-point team total on the road.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: Look, there's the easy way to play this game and
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: figure it out with people going to the Cousins, Tucker, Bowers,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: James Cook stuff or some version of that.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, Bowers, James Cook, cut it off, whatever it
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: might be.
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  Speaker 3: But in the afternoon, way more people are going to
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: be on the Ram stuff and, you know, the Pukas
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: of the world, the Kyron Williams of the world.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: All that stuff. Algier, et cetera, et cetera.
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  Speaker 3: So I think, you know, having this ability to swap
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 3: over here looks like a pretty good spot to be
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 3: able to move to and others will think about it
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: as well, but there's so many guys, Shakir Coleman Palmer.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: We'll wait on the DJ more news. Kincaid. Um, you
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: talked about Michael Meyer, Bowers, Tucker, Gentee. We, we mentioned.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: So I just think there's a lot of ways that
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: you can go this game in the afternoon. I think, um,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: other teams have scored quite easily on the bills just
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: as much as they want to.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: So I think it could be that type of situation.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: And I like having some of these lineups even to
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: start my day with and just hold steady. We're going
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: to wait and see how the morning goes, of course,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: but it's like, honestly, even if my low own guys
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: went off in the morning and I could just pivot
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: over to the Rams Cardinals, this is actually a spot
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: I might, if I liked the rest of the lineup
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 3: and I can hold the fort down with this setup,
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: I'd probably just stay. Cause I do like this game
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 3: for fantasy points and the ability to have it go
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: back and forth.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: So, Anything else from you, Title? Any other final thoughts
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: on the slate?
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 4: No, just waiting on, yeah, Jutkins, Taji Spears. Again, it's
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 4: not too, too much, but, I mean, on a slate
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: where salary is tough and we're already talking Algier, Damian Pierce,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 4: double tight end, all of that, it's not something I'm
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 4: going to fully ignore with a lot of teams. So, yeah,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: just waiting on that. Check out the Bellman and Hamm show,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 4: Nades and Hamm later. We have showdown content. Obviously, we've
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: got the London game right now, but showdown tonight. Yeah,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: week six. Good luck, everybody.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: Man, that's crazy too. Ball don't lie because the crazy
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: hold call on Tootin earlier. And then that's what 35
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: yards of good play looks like. You know, the Nico
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: people out there, go look at Tootin, catch that ball
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: from the 32-yard line and then maneuver around everybody to
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: get all the way to the house and fall in
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: the box.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: Got to get one of those in for the day
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: as well. Love to see that. Hoop, final thoughts from
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: you before we get out of here?
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: No, good luck, everyone. Let's have a big day.
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