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Yoreh De’ah 201:65-72. Mikvaos: Safek and Questionable Situations · SHULCHAN ARUCH YOMI: Own the Halacha in 25 minutes a day!

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  Good morning. We are continuing hill cosmic
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  vows Raish Aleph. OK, today's Happy Hanukkah and
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  today's Eve Samer. Hey, Mikva Shahu Muksak, we got
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  Meymouth Mitmartin. So you have a mikva and you
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  expect the mikva to soon be less than 40 Saya.
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  The la amod al pahod we are by him saya and it's going to end
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  up being less than 4 vitav labo and she went to such the mikvah
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  she dipped srika laksar vilitbo kohlzmann shilayudanu vivadai
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  shibisha Shi tavla hayabo arbaim siya.
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  So the problem is she doesn't know that when she went to the
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  mikvah there was still Arbaim or not.
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  But since she doesn't know, she has to be Mahmer, right?
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  Tangdini, Deraisa and and I guess perhaps you lost Lakhazaka
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  because you were expecting it to go below and she doesn't know
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  and therefore she has to dip again.
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  Didn't count. But if you had no reason to
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  assume that it's going to reach the level below Arbaim Saya,
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  that's generally the case. You have no reason to assume AF
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  alpi shapa amim shamim of olima pamim meet Martin.
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  It's true, it does go up and down over time, right?
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  Water comes in, water goes out. Ina srija lakhs Orville.
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  She doesn't have to. She can assume the Kazaka she
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  because there was arba insea and there was no reason to assume
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  it's going to be less so the the Tavila counted when we called
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  Markham kashirhadavar. But the truth is you should
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  always be careful and check the ayen coden Tavila inyeshva
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  arbaim SE ah, you should always make sure to check.
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  OK, samer vav mik mashumima MIT pash MIT pash MIT pashtim.
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  But you know, you call it Kasotovo.
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  What happens if you have a mikva?
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  It's a kosher mikva, right? It's this is important.
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  It started out as being kosher. The only thing is it's spread
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  out. It's a, it's a very wide mikva.
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  So you, even though it's low level of water, it's still going
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  to be Arbaimsea. So that's not the problem.
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  You know, there's arbaimsea, but you can't stand in there.
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  It's too, too low. So then what do you do?
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  Notain Bob Mitzad ekhad avanim oh khabili aitzim kadeshi
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  kudsumima El Macomb ekhad villalu be inanchi you call it.
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  So you just, you put a bunch of rocks or blocks of wood or
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  whatever, any kind of blocks, you fill it up on one side of
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  the mikla and right based on water displacement.
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  If you fill it up with a bunch of stuff on one side, it's going
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  to raise the level of the water to the other half where you
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  don't have all the rocks, and therefore it's going to raise
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  the level so you'll be able to stand in there properly.
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  OK, so that's fine. That's kosher.
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  We you call it cassette. So it'll rise high enough that
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  you can get yourself covered up inside.
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  We'll build that. But I mean, like Atila, we
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  learned that it needs to be tall enough above your belly button.
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  Was that about a zaret? We said?
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  And close, you know, around your chest area and you have the way
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  you're supposed to stand. But here we're talking about the
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  bare minimum in the case or if you can get it that high, then
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  it becomes a Hakila. So we all win a shukali kasabov
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  bilvach bilvad shalu yaklaku koha mikvah.
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  But it has to make sure that you're not dividing up the
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  mikvah and because then you can end up with talking about a
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  mikva that's not so huge. So you just have to make sure
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  you don't make a proper wall between two sides.
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  And you end up with having each side of the mikva less than 40.
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  As if you put your wall, you create a wall in the middle of
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  your small mikva, minimal mikva, and you block it off.
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  If you don't have an opening of Shafaretanad, then you might end
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  up making two, creating 2 separate Nikvos and each one and
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  then where you're dipping is less than 40 S All right, Just
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  think about what you're doing and whatever we learned until
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  now, we'll be all right. We've actually called Cola Mikva
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  of all the Kalium puzzle. We can't divide it up with
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  Kalium. Now there's a something that the
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  the post can point out. Well, the shock basically says
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  that we learned earlier on, we're not going to rehash the
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  whole thing, but there's an Indian of Havayato, Ayude Tuma.
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  You can't create a kosher mikva that starts out as no mikvah or
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  puzzle and create a kosher mikvah with something of tuma.
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  But that's not an issue over here because we started out with
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  a kosher mikvah. So that's not the issue.
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  But you're not Regardless, we're not allowed to divide it with
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  helium with with Kaylee because they don't have any holes of
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  show ferret. You know what, we'll I'll come.
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  I might have to just leave this. The Grodd leaves it as it's but
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  anyways, the Shoukhanarak writes the with Calim.
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  It's a problem. There is a there is a discussion
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  on this one, right. So the shock also has a question
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  on it. So I'm not going to answer all
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  their cautious as I can't. So we'll go on.
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  So can the calim be used like rocks and stones is a question
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  mark. Leave that as it's a Haga rafil
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  iem yakhola we hit consult the mayim and even if you in a mayim
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  A mukim atibura. Sorry.
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  So this is what I've already mentioned before Ulamala lumen
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  was there. Verma just points out, OK, this
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  is only like Akila if you can make it high enough.
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  But if you can't make it high enough to where your chest is
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  right a zared plot above your belly button, low teeth boba la
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  cakila, you shouldn't go in there.
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  La cakila shamala low low teeth bowl you have fed because you
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  might not end up doing a proper Teavila.
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  Either your hair won't get underneath all the way your head
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  or you'll you'll have extra creases that are not
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  inappropriate or a problem meal. You may not make Bach heritage
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  If you have no choice. There's no other mecha via
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  shallah talking, and there's no other way to fix it.
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  We learned you how to lie down even if you need to.
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  Whatever in any position. If the water is not high enough,
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  you have no choice. It's OK if you can get your body
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  covered up. As long as it works, you can be.
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  You can make yourself dip underneath it one time and then
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  you're fine. Let's go on.
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  That works. Samer Zayn.
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  OK. Safik Mayim Shuvim Tower.
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  Now we learned that Mayim Shuvim is what a Dinder abandoned,
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  right? That's the simple Gemara.
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  No questions. The only question is Rabinu Tom
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  points out Mayim Shuvim could be Derabannon.
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  It could be Der Isa. You see, everyone agrees.
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  The Gemara says it's Derabana and Suffik Vaim Shuvim is Tower
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  because it's a sphake of Derabana.
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  But if most of the mikvas mayim shuvim.
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  So that's the case that Rabina Thomas says is there Isa.
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  And if it's a minority then he agrees it's Durabanam like Shlo
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  Shuvim for example. That's only Durabana.
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  It's only if it's most of the mikva.
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  That's when it's a durisa case, right?
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  So tap water. If it's the whole mikva, it'd be
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  a problem there Isa for there being a tongue.
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  If it's only a little bit, then everything again, everyone is in
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  agreement. It's only Dara Bannon.
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  OK, so anyways, classic case Mayim Shuvim is Dara Bannon and
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  Suffolk Teller Katesa mikva shuva.
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  So you had a mikva and you're not sure if Mayim Shuvim was
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  added to it, right? That's a simple case that it
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  fits. Even according to Urbain Utama,
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  you have a mikva that's mega shamim.
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  Let's just say you're missing one, say ah, or you're missing 3
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  Lugin, whatever, And then you add Mayim Shuvim.
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  So it's the minority of the mikva.
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  So lakuli alma, no questions. It's only a Mayim Shuvim case of
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  darabana. Oh, naflu vafilu.
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  Yeah, dab of a dais should not wait second.
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  So you're OK? You have a mikvah and you don't
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  know if you had schlosser lugiumayum shuvium fall inside.
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  That's one subject. Oh, well, Naflu or it didn't
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  fall in. The whole thing is megashami.
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  You're just not sure. But filiada vadaisha Naflu,
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  maybe you have a case, another case, you know for sure, you
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  know for sure three, you know for sure 3 Lugin of I'm sure
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  Lugin fell in Salvik Ishbahim. Well, let me take that back.
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  Keep reading. Salvik the Ishbahim shloka
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  Lugin, Salvik Abraham. You're just not sure if it was 3
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  Lugin that fell in or 2 1/2 or two.
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  So two would not possible in mikvah, but three does.
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  So you're just not sure if it was 3 or less than 3, but you
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  know some water fell in. OK, that's another case of a
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  Suffolk OK or another case you know for sure 3 Lugin fell in.
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  But what's the Suffolk Suffolk Shahaya, the mikvah shenafu
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  barbahem SE Suffolk lawyer Maybe when the water fell in you saw
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  three Lugin fall in of Mayim Shuvin from a cup.
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  But when it fell in, maybe it was already a kosher mikvah of
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  megashamin of Arbayim Sal. Once it has Arbayim Sal, you can
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  pour in 1,000,000 gallons of Mayim Shuvim.
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  It's always going to stay kosher.
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  That's not a problem. OK, so then I raise a kosher.
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  So these are just all these cases are a Suffolk Mayim Shuvim
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  with an Isser darabanan, which is an Isser darabanan and
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  therefore it's kosher. Now another case, spikers name
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  Mikvos Ekhadishvo, Arba Imsea, the Ekhad Enbo.
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  So you have two different mikvos, one of them has Arba
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  Imsea and one of them doesn't. Naflu shlosha lugin maim Shuvim.
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  And then you saw a cup 43 Lugin of water, but you don't know
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  which mikvah, the mikvah that's 40, which is kosher or a mikvah
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  that's 39 or whatever, less than 40.
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  And it would possible the mikvah maybe it was a Hamnah flu.
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  So Sphico tower, we say on this case, Suffolk is tower because
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  you have what to attribute it to.
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  You can say that you, you had a quote, you can say that the,
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  the, the extra water that fell in went into that one and it was
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  all and you keep the Hezkus cautious.
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  You know, you keep with the Hezkus cautious that we're
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  allowed to do right one second, because that's the case that the
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  Shah points out only if most of the water.
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  In other words, the Shah keeps reminding us or Ashkenazi Poskin
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  will remind us of the sheetas of the Rama to be Koshish for a big
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  Tang, as long as it's a din dharabanan.
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  So that's what the Shah points out.
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  In this case it has to be a case of Dharabanan OK hayush name
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  pehutim nahar bahim saya. What if they're both mikvahs are
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  less than 40, so they both started out with as hustle.
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  Both of them are less than 40 and then waterfalls out fall my
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  name Shubin falls into one of them.
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  There any delays in them, but you don't know which one.
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  So then call Ekabishnay and Paso.
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  They're both going to be Paso. She a Loba Masha Hitler, because
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  you have no way to be toler to attribute in a kosher way to be
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  mamid alfescato. There is none.
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  Fine, so let's go to the next case.
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  Sama tete Mikvashi Niko Rikon. You have a mikva that was
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  emptied, an empty mikvah, an empty pit, whatever it is, ubah
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  umatzo Mali. And then you find it all full.
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  Let's keep reading. Ignatius Suffik Mayim Shuvim le
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  mikvah because this is a case of Mayim Shuvim and the assumption
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  is it's outdoors. And so it can either be, no,
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  we're not going to spend too much on this one.
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  This halaqa really depends on the situation.
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  We had a similar case before. Also, bottom line, if it's a
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  case where it's a Suffolk darabana and it's a case where
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  you have what to rely, what to assume it came from Megashami or
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  you or it's in a in a, in a mikvah and you can assume we had
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  cases before this in the beginning of this month.
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  If it's a case where you can assume it was done by somebody
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  kosher, you know, Yeah, yeah, the guy who's taking care of the
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  mikvah or you have a Jew or a camera system, as long as it's
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  done in a situation where there's a Hazaka kilo that it's
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  going to be or a strong lomdana that it was done because we
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  could be, we can rely on it. If it's a case where you have no
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  reason to us no way to know, you know how the water got there
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  except through it could have easily been tap water.
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  So then you don't have what to rely on.
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  It really depends on numerous factors on the Mitzius of your
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  each individual case. OK, the point is here, as long
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  as you have what to you know what, as long as it's reasonable
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  and it's a dinder abandoned. So then that's that's our case
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  over here when he says for sure it's not a problem.
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  And yeah, go back and see if Thalid if you want to see more
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  on the topic, but it really depends on the case.
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  I'm Senorcha Mccalla Mikva, the maktasha and tuna.
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  But Sido. So here you have you have a
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  pipe, right, that brings water to the mikva and you have a
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  maktashit. I think it's some kind of a,
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  there's some kind of a cleat next to it.
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  Suffolk. I mean, I'd seen her La Mikva
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  Suffolk. So you have two ways that got in
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  there, one through Mayim Shuvim and one not through Mayim
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  Shuvim. I raise the apostle.
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  So then it's Paso. So OK, Bottom line though, is
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  you have a Suffolk, you have two sources where it can come from,
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  right? The previous source, yeah, it
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  was outdoors and rain could have come.
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  I mean, maybe. Yeah.
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  I guess also depends if you know that there's no rain, but
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  there's no way for it to get in there except for my.
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  Yeah. You have to see what's to them
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  and see us. OK, Anyways, right now you have
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  two sources and one of them is puzzle the panacea absul
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  mukhiya, because you have them Sul mukhiya, you have the cup
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  right next to the the water that filled it up.
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  Or for our purposes, if you had a pipe, a hose, a hose that
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  comes from tap water, we consider that mayim shoving.
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  So that also would be a Sul mukhiya, the emyesh.
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  Generally speaking, as far as I know, they don't make mikvahs
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  with faucets because they don't want to have any issues that we
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  only want the water to come through hamshaka through the one
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  of the other pits next door. Anyway, the EM Yesh, the mikvah
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  ruble Mayim sharing now if you have most of it is from Mayim
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  sharing Hariza Kasha, which is this Suffolk Mayim Shuveem
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  Sherry Yesha mikvah kashir Kavua.
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  If it's in a kosher and if you have a kosher mikvah, you see it
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  has water and generally speaking, there is Megashami
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  Minervar by him say, ah, so just because you have a hose over
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  there or you have a qui over there, that's not going to
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  that's not going to relax. Normally this mikvah has some
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  mikvah Kavu and it normally has clutcher rainwater.
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  So in this case, so in such a case, for sure, you don't have
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  to worry. Fine, let's go on.
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  Ain't Allah Tommy shyara litbo Suffolk tavo Suffolk lotava
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  someone who's tummy goes inside the mikvah and in the end he's
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  not sure if he did a proper tabula or not.
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  The Philo tavo Suffolk yeeshbar but Suffolk aimbo.
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  Now let's see. So he does not sure if he dipped
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  all the way or if he dipped he does not sure if the mikvah had
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  arba imsea. So these are two sphicos the
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  right time. I mean two separate cases that
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  are Suffolk, derisa, shenay mikvos, echad echad enbo tavo,
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  the echad mahem, the Enya do a Aza mahem.
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  Someone who's taught Tomei goes inside two one of two mikvahs.
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  One of the mikvahs was kosher that had arbaim SE ah, maybe
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  xamim, and the other one did not have Arbaim say ah, and he
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  doesn't know which one he went into.
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  So then Tammy, he stays Tammy because this is a safaik de
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  Oraisa and he's really because kas Tammy and you don't have a
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  kazaka of a Kas tower. The fish had Tammy because Carto
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  because the Tammy stays with his kazaka at shio dei ashtavo
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  karaoi until you know that he dipped properly in a proper
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  mikvah mikvah shenimda. Now you go to a mikvah and you
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  decide to measure it and you find out Oh my gosh, it's not
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  our button say ah, the water will level went down too far
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  where you assumed it was bigger anyway.
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  So what happens bein Shahaya amikra Bershusa Robin, bein
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  Shahaya Bershusa yahid, it doesn't matter if it's Bershusa
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  Robin or Bershusa Yahid. Call ataro shenasu agaba bluma
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  Freya timaeos Achiva Dozman. So this is not a case of you're
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  not, you know it's finding something in Rishisa Rami when
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  Rishisa yahi. OK, so that's Allah kala motion
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  we seen I once Tami once tahwar here doesn't make a difference.
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  You know that yourself, you're Tami and now you want to dip in
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  here and you want to uproot your khazakh of tuma and become
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  tahwar. So for that, it's not a case of
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  Suffolk you or you have no khazakh that you're starting
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  with. You have to stay tummy and it's
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  100% tummy. And everything that was dipped
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  until the last time you checked that it was kosher stays, stays
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  tummy. You're right.
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  Even retroactively. Yeah, let's do iron, iron bed.
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  The shock says as you start reading that the case over here
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  is we're talking about Durabanam.
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  Because if it be a Derisa case, it'd be different.
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  So let's let's let's read Shneemikovos chain Baham
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  Arbaimsea. You have two different mequests
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  and each one doesn't have Arbaimsea enough new Shlosha
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  Lugin, let's talk Ehrhad mehem. And right in three of my 3 Lugen
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  Mahim fall into one of them and you know where it went to via
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  Kharka Naflu Shnim. And then again that happens, the
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  Enya do all the Azam amna flow. So the first time it went it, it
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  puzzled the mikvah and you saw and then it and then another
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  time Shlo Shaluddin fell in. But the second time you don't
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  know which one it went into the 1st or the 2nd.
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  And so the first one became puzzle already and the second
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  one is Qasir Arbaim. But you don't know if it went
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  into that one or not. You can say it follows the same
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  pattern. You can make up such a scenario,
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  such an assumption since the first time it fell into that
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  first mikva. So the second time you stomach
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  fell into that same first mikva as well.
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  So the first Mikva stays Tami Paso rather and then the second
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  mikva is we are assuming is still Hasser are Bahim and it
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  did not become puzzle yet. Obviously, if you can measure
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  the displacement of water, that'll answer the question.
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  But it's you know, it's hard to measure Shiloshalugin.
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  It's so little compared to the whole if it would be, you know,
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  OK, let's see. We're not a lot more about Imar
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  Berry Shonim Lonoda the Lomar Malcolm Shinim Aval sorry aval
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  Imbari Shonim LO nodala azamehem naflu ubashnim nodala azamehem
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  naflu and Yahoo elite was below Marlon Malcolm shafnim Naflu
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  already shown him. But in the first time when it
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  fell, you don't know where it went to.
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  So there's no way to make Atelia to say, Oh, I went to the same
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  one because there's no there's no established place to say, oh,
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  if I went there, so I went there again the first time you have no
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  no idea. So there's it's like up in the
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  air. So then when it happens again,
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  it's up in the air and we don't have you can't make this
• 22:40
  assumption. Ehrad yezhu arbaim saya in a
• 22:44
  case where there is one mikva that has arbaim saya, the Ehrhad
• 22:50
  Ingba and the second one doesn't a rainy olner a talk show arbaim
• 22:54
  now flow. So then you can say it went into
• 22:57
  right. We kind of had this before since
• 22:59
  if you had two, one was kosher, one was not.
• 23:02
  So you can say the Shlo Shalugyamaim Shogun fell into
• 23:05
  the one that is arba in seaha. So you're keeping it right now
• 23:12
  you understand why the shark told you it's cases of darabana.
• 23:21
  You have one mikva that's full of mine shuvim and one that's
• 23:24
  not a rainy Omer la talk shuv naflu.
• 23:29
  You can say that the the again you keep things really is doing
• 23:35
  the opposite. You're keeping it because puzzle
• 23:38
  you're you're taking the Mayan shoe of him and you stick it to
• 23:41
  that one 'cause you can mederabanon since the whole is
• 23:44
  there is mederabanon. We allow you to do this.