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"Mason on the Mic" with Mason from The Daily Cannon · Caught on the Mike...

• 0:01
  SPEAKER_02: Warning due to some language and subject matter, listener discretion is advised.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_01: There's a quote from Socrates that says, The secret of change is to focus all of your energy, not on fighting the old, but on building the new.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_01: How do you pivot when everything in your life you know day-to-day changes in a flick of a twitch?
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_01: Many of us have experienced this in the last year during the global pandemic of COVID-19.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_01: My next guest's pivot is pretty remarkable.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_01: After 13 years at the same radio station in Seattle, Washington, she's cultivated her own homegrown audience on the popular social media app, TikTok.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_01: And it's a following that continues to grow day after day.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_01: Joining me on Caught on the Mic today, it's Mason on the Mic, and we talk about everything from bed tents to real housewives to a long career in radio.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel like her story is just getting started.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_01: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Caught on the Mike.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_01: Mason, thank you for joining Caught on the Mike today.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_01: I gotta tell you, I'm a little bit disappointed that you are not in your bed tent surrounded by the sushi train.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_00: I don't get good reception in the bed tent, so I had to be an adult up and out of the living room.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_00: The sushi tent or the sushi train that was right in front of me.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: Excellent, excellent.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_01: I am referencing two key things I have seen in the past couple of weeks that are amazing.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_01: It's part of the amazing bounty of content that you've been putting out this past year.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_01: So I I love it.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like anytime I see one of your videos pop up, um, that's why I started following you as you popped up on my for you page, and I was like, all right, she's got some she's got some shit to talk about.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_01: I like this.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_02: I do, I do have some shit to talk about.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's true.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_01: So without any further ado, why don't you tell our listeners your origin story?
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: You mean like uh 30 seconds, the the quick version?
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_01: You take as long as you need.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_00: Uh well then kick back kids now.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um, let's see, I'm a Navy brat.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_00: So uh my dad was uh nuclear submarine captain, moved around a lot.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_00: My mom was a teacher, was born in Hawaii, and then we moved to Charleston, South Carolina, so that's where I get my my southern accent from.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: And then we moved to Springfield, Virginia, and then we moved to La Modalena, Italy, uh, which is a small island off the coast of Sardinia, pre-internet, so that was fun.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, then we moved to Silverdale, Washington, and then Seattle, Washington.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm an only child.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, went to Washington State University, married the first guy I ever dated.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_00: Super smart move.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: And we got divorced uh about 10 years ago and uh still live in Seattle looking to get a radio job because that's what I've done career-wise.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I was at a top 40 radio station for 13 years, doing afternoons, 2 to 7 p.m.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm hoping to find a morning show so I can just talk everyone's ear off and get paid for it.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's about it.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_00: Those are the highlights.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_01: What brought you to radio?
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_01: Let's start there.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so when we lived in Hawaii, my next door neighbor was on the nightly news.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_00: And so for years, you know, any high school, middle school project of what I wanted to be when I grew up, I wanted to be a news anchor.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_00: And so when I went to WSU to the Edward Armor School of Communication, I got there and every blonde girl wanted to be on the news.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, oh, that doesn't, I'm not gonna do this anymore.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I changed to advertising.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_00: And uh my senior year at the sorority, I was cleaning my room and the local radio station, not the college station, was saying that their intern didn't show up.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I really needed an internship to graduate.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_00: So I called in and I said, I'll be your intern.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: And they said, they had one question for me, and they said, Do you have big boobs?
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, Well, as a matter of fact, I do.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, can't get away with that now.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, I worked there a summer and uh basically left and got a real job.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_00: And years later, I guess it was what 2007, I think, um, that I um I applied at three local radio stations and I heard back from one of them.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: It was a brand new station that was launching, and yeah, the rest is history, so to speak.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_01: So as far as that history goes, do you think that all the moving you around you did as a kid, do you think that kind of lent to maybe a little bit of a creative spirit inside of you?
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yes.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm an only child, so I would say my creative spirit comes from having to entertain myself.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: But uh moving around definitely helped.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_00: And unfortunately, I feel like a lot of the skills that I learned with radio and you know, being a lot friendlier and smiling, um, I could have used moving around because I was deathly afraid.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I would make my I have resting bitch face.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_00: So I would put this on to protect myself to not show that I was scared to death and I looked like a raging bitch.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_00: So I think if I just smiled a lot more, I would have had a lot more friends.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_01: The reason I asked that, I moved around a lot as a kid too.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_01: My uh my dad worked for Mercedes-Benz.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_01: And so every two to three years, we were moving from state to state to state to new dealerships.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I I ended up in the music industry, so I'm like your redneck step cousin uh to you radio folks.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's just something that kind of strikes me when I talk to a lot of people that have that creative heart.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody's story is kind of the same.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_01: It's like they're they got used to being the new kid in class, so they had to tap into that sense of creativity.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_01: So let's talk about your time in radio.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_01: You were at the same station for 13 years.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so what happened?
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: So I I was it's pretty unique to be in one place for so long.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_00: Most people work their way up, and it was a blessing and a curse that I didn't have to do that.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I started doing weekends and I did that for a year, and then the morning show guy got um let go and they moved the afternoon girl up to mornings, and I had her job ever since.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I was so incredibly lucky, and yet I also was so done um talking in and out of songs and being in a room by yourself.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: I just I wanted to do more, and um, I was number one in the ratings for years, and there was just nowhere to move up.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_00: We had a successful morning show, so it's not like I could have ever slid into that spot.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_00: I've if I ever wanted to do something else, I needed to leave.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_00: And I was so scared um of you know throwing away this wonderful opportunity when I was doing well to potentially, you know, fail and then not have anything.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: So COVID hit, and um I had always said that they would need to push me out.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_00: So it has been a blessing in disguise.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's been one of the hardest years of my life, but I think I have learned so much.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I think in the big scheme of things, I'm gonna look back on this and realize that it really needed to happen.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_00: I've I've learned a lot.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, a lot of people have to get comfortable with being uncomfortable if they want to make big changes in their life, specifically with careers.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_01: But the thing that uh that drew me to you know reach out to you to be on the show was in the wake of all of this, you created a TikTok account and you built a ton of followers, like seemingly almost overnight.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: So, talk about that process a little bit.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, I actually made uh a video recently um that's helped me get a lot of um job inquiries.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_00: So uh basically when I still had a job, all my coworkers were like, you need to get on TikTok.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, I am too old to be on TikTok.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna do some dances.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna, that's not my thing.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: And when I lost my job and I had a lot of free time on my hands, I was like, maybe I should get on TikTok and do some dances.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: And so then I got on TikTok and I did not do any dances.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I decided to do what I had done on the radio essentially.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_00: And if anything, I could talk longer, uh, a full minute.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: I was talking in 20-second increments um on air.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_00: And so I was, you know, telling dating stories and road rage stories or doing accents and you know, just being me um and no TikTok dances or anything too gimmicky.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, people love the drama stories and the data dating stories, and mine actually aren't that bad, but you know, I'm a decent storyteller, and yeah, that seems to be where I started finding a little bit more success and more followers.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, people people tend to gravitate towards authentic content, and you are incredibly authentic.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: That means a lot, actually.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's the truth.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't say it if it wasn't true.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: And that is something, like I said earlier, and I'm gonna sound like a repeating rabbit here, but that's something I really enjoy about your content myself, is just I like when people can be raw and people can just express themselves and make very poignant statements because I I bet you I bet you there's some 20-something girls that are watching your your dating stories and going, oh yeah, that that shit happened to me, you know.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_01: So you you said one of your recent videos has helped kind of unlock some things in the in the job sector.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: Is it the car one where you do the car ads?
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_00: Well, one of them, yeah.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because that's fantastic.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_01: I had to like I've watched it four times.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, did she pre-record this and then lip sync to it?
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's so good.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: So good.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, posting stuff on LinkedIn is so I have an agent and she sent out my air check, which is essentially your radio resume.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's about two minutes of audio.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: So when I lost my job, she'd sent that out to all the big wigs and hadn't really had a lot of traction from it.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_00: But for some reason, despite the fact that I do radio, I'm very animated.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_00: And my guy friend explained it to me.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: He was like, You some of what you're it's not what you're saying sometimes, it's how you're saying it and your expressions.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I swear, TikTok has has honestly opened my eyes to so many things.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like I knew I was expressive, but I didn't realize just how expressive I was, especially in light of like some people who have no facial expression whatsoever.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like someone today commented and said that I look like I'm a puppet on a string, how I move.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, maybe you need to move more.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: So it's just opened my eyes.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_00: You know, no one had ever told me that I look like Elvis before, and I get that all the time now.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and you even made a video about it.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I made a couple, yeah.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_01: Are you kind of working with the TikTok algorithm whenever you create um content?
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, are are you posting things certain times of day?
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_01: Are you doing certain number of videos a day, or is it completely random?
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yes and no.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I'm impatient.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_00: So if I have an idea, I have a hard time holding off.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of times it's just whatever is top of mind and something happens.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like I didn't post anything today and I wanted to, but I just haven't had I haven't had anything worthy of posting.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: And I think the other day I, you know, might have posted like four.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_00: So I should do better.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_00: I think posting consistently helps.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: And um, yeah, there are definitely certain times that help more than others, but I think it varies on what kind of content.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like for me, I think it's like six or seven o'clock at night.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_00: And if I have an idea, I don't want to wait for forever, especially because a lot of times interacting with people in comments is like my entertainment for the day because you know, unemployed and all.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_01: So well, as far as interacting with people in comments, like that's something else that I've noticed that you're you're handle incredibly well.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_01: You're not afraid to call out the trolls a little bit, and that's a good thing, you know.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's a sense of empowerment.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I know they're out there, trust me.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: I I I did music.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_01: There was nothing worse than reading some scathing review about man, that guy's voice didn't match match the sound of his band or whatever.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: But uh but at the same time, it's one of those things that it's it's like MM at the end of Eight Mile, whenever he does that rap about himself and he takes away somebody's power.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: You've done that a few times.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I thoroughly enjoy it.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like I I find it amusing.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_00: I like I like it.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, if anything, like it doesn't really hurt my feelings.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, especially because most of the times they're really weird backhanded compliments.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: They're like, you're not funny, you're lucky you're pretty.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, You think I'm pretty?
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: Because I know I'm funny.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_00: So you think I'm pretty?
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: So it's this very weird world that I've been told that I'm attractive more on TikTok than I've ever had in my real in real life.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_00: And I've also had people say meaner and ruder things to me than, you know, because people don't say that kind of stuff in real real life.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: But when I get frustrated, it's not about people, you know, saying something that hurts my feelings.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's usually, you know, just because it's so ridiculous.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm on unemployment and people think that it's welfare and that they're paying I'm like, you really believe that.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_00: And like I get frustrated just because I'm like, oh my God, I can't believe people are that dumb are walking upright on this planet.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: So it's stuff like that.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: Or the people who are like, why do you respond to trolls?
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I get more aggravated with you telling me what to do than the troll.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's all entertaining to me.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, absolutely.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_01: And again, you know, if you can just own it, you've taken the power away from somebody.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: So as far as that goes, how is your how is your 2020 as a whole in the light of everything you were already dealing with, the TikTok followers growing, stepping away from the radio job?
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_01: How are some of the other elements of your life impacted by 2020 and you know the whole COVID epidemic?
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, well, I I met someone um for a little bit and I I had a a boyfriend for a hot minute during COVID, which was incredibly helpful.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I just needed a support system and he was there for me.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_00: So that was great.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: Other aspects, I mean, I don't even know in terms of like like what specifically, I guess.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: The only thing I can do is kind of personalize it for myself.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_01: So, like needing a reconnective outlet to the rest of the world.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_01: That's how I like got into podcasting.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like music used to be my thing.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_01: I stepped away from music exactly 10 years ago this year, and you know, I just did the dad life, the career life kind of thing.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_01: And then COVID, it's like it's an extra layer of isolationism to where it's like, man, this could teeter on depression, and which I think is something we all need to be more actively and openly talking about is like our mental health, especially after a year like last year.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_01: I guess one of more what I'm getting at is, you know, what are some other avenues that you pursue to keep your head above water?
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I definitely struggled with depression some days more than others.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, I I went through a process where I thought I was gonna get a job in Chicago.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I went through like six or seven months of this audition process.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: I thought I was gonna move.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like I had boxes in my my living room, and they changed their minds last minute, and I was devastated and I really kind of fell apart a little bit, and not so much because I mean, there was the just the disappointment factor, but also there were no jobs to apply to.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like for there was a month that I just was like, I'm not being told no, I'm not in the game.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: I can't, I'm not even, you know, auditioning.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: So that was like a really hard thing.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: And it, if honestly, like I've just I feel very hyper aware of things now and knowing what I'm capable of.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, TikTok gave me a new sense of confidence, so to speak, of you know, my my fear before with radio of leaving, it's like, oh, I have this great gig, and if I leave, it might not work and I gave it up, and uh, I wasn't as confident in my abilities.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_00: And being able to grow an audience on my own that wasn't attached to the radio station, that people weren't tuning in, be like, oh, she's on moving.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna, I'm gonna give her a follow.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's people who had no idea and genuinely followed me just because they enjoyed my content.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: That made me realize like you will be successful outside of this.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: And it made me a little angry with myself that I stayed as long as I did and I could have been doing more and pushing myself when I hadn't.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: But I don't think I would have done that if I hadn't had this past year.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm a big believer that everything happens for a reason for sure.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: And do you think some of the the challenges whenever trying to move on to a different job is the is the shape of radio changing in general because of social media?
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_02: A thousand percent.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, everything's so instant gratification now, like every aspect of our lives are changing.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: You got an amazing voice.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: Have you considered podcasting yourself or or are you podcasting?
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I was about, I mean, I've done a podcast in the past with my best friend before she moved.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: And it it's hard if you to find a podcast um partner who is on a similar schedule and similar drive.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: So that's been my issue in the past.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I just I didn't want to do it by myself.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: And then I've recently, you know, kind of settled down and had more of an idea of what I was gonna do.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I actually have some jobs in the works right now, so it's just not smart to start something if I'm going to be going through this huge process shortly.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: So it's just this weird time of you want to do a podcast so you're noticed more, but as soon as you have something, you might have to give it up.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's just all these weird little things.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: So at this point, I think I just need to double down on the TikTok and do a little bit more there.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: And if these jobs that I'm up for fall through, then really go for the podcast route.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: So you got into radio when like MySpace was kind of a thing.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_01: And right before Facebook blew up.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: How did you notice what kind of changes did you notice throughout your time in radio, throughout your 13 years as a result of social media, or just did it not impact the job that much?
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's not social media that impacts the job so much.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: If anything, social media makes people feel like they know you even more and can come into your lives.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: And I think even with like big celebrities that um, you know, are on Instagram that you can see inside their house, not from a magazine layout, you can see what they're doing, you know, the the stars just like us section of the tabloids, people used to eat up, and now you get even more access on their terms, but you get to to really see.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think the same thing works for radio personalities and and in that way, but radio has changed more than anything because of all the different avenues in which you can listen to radio.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's not just your car anymore, it's not just a little handset, it's Spotify, it's you know, Alexa.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: And to some extent, you know, people have been saying that radio is gonna dying for years.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: And COVID, if anything, definitely sped up that process.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: And radio needs to change with the times.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I think some companies are doing a better job of that than others, and others, you know, cling very strongly to the old adage of this is how we've always done it.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it doesn't mean it's the right way.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, I I get so many, so many uh career tips from strangers on TikTok of what I should be doing.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, sometimes I get it.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: You you just don't know the energy industry and you don't know how it works.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: They're like, Well, we have plenty of jobs in you know, Pascagoula, Mississippi.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, I bet you do.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: There's a radio job in Pascagoula.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: You don't say, but like radio, you get paid based on markets.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, New York and LA, that's where the big bucks are, but it's also your cost of living.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, Seattle was market 12.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: So for working five hours a day, I made pretty good money.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I liked it.
• 20:55
  unknown: Right.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so that's a factor of like where I'm looking for jobs of, you know, I want to be in top 25 markets and then other factors as well, you know, like I hate the heat and I hate snakes, but I'm gonna have to buck up and deal with both of those.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: So has your passion changed in the past year as far as radio goes?
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like, are you are you dead set you want to end up back in radio?
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: Why I like radio, you know, people were like, Oh, you should be on TV.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: And you can't, I can't be myself on TV.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: If you're on the news, I even looked into a few jobs because I know a lot of people, and I would have to clean it up big time.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: They're they're firing people for bikini photos and on Instagram.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: So my TikTok content wouldn't fly.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: So radio, I think, is the most corporate way, most structured way of being creative without being um, you know, I don't want to be a stand up comedian that's a lifestyle, you know, late nights and hustling, and you might not ever make it.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: And the same thing with, you know, being an actor and auditions, it's very Competitive, and who knows if you'll ever meet success.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: So, with radio, I get to do those talents a little bit more, you know, the comedy and acting a little bit in a corporate forum.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's I felt like I was hedging my bets to some extent when I chose that.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I think I still would like to do that.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I think it's the higher you go up, maybe you have more opportunities to do other things.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: You know, what is it?
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_00: Bobby Bones was on Dancing with the Stars.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_00: You know, he's syndicated, you get to that level and you can do other things.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: Ryan Seacrest, obviously.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: So I just would like to, and I feel like I'm starting to get there a little bit, that there's not a lot of girls that are funny in radio.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: There's there's funny girls, but there's just not a lot in radio.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I just want to be able to prove myself that I'm just as good, if not better, than than some of the guys, that I can do voices, that I can host, that I'm not a laugh track like some so many girls are forced to be.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: So that's my goal.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're kind of making your niche, and that's that's a fantastic thing.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_01: And that's if you can find something that you love to do for a living, do that as long as you possibly can, right?
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: You do that until the wheels fall off.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: So what is it specifically that you love about radio?
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: I get to be myself.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: I get to, you know, there's a lot of things that I could do, but I'm not going to be as good at them.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like I could be a news reporter.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: I love doing that kind of thing.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_00: You know, our top story tonight is a fire into coma.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: I could do that, but there's nothing that makes me really stand out, um, you know, and makes me different or special in that regard.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's why I like doing radios that I can be vulnerable, I can tell stories, I can do voices, I can, you know, work with other people, I can hear music, I can meet artists, I can interview them.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: Basically, you you're a talk show host, but in a much more attainable fashion because there's only so many Ellen's, there's only so many Opras.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: So this gives me a little bit of an easier opportunity to get my foot in the door in that that regard.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, as cheesy as it sounds, Dwayne Johnson has that line, you gotta be the first you.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: Didn't he want to do he wanted to be um a football player, right?
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, absolutely.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's how we got to start.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, he maybe he wouldn't be if he'd played football, he wouldn't, I mean he wouldn't be as huge.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: He wouldn't, right?
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: He's made a whole, you know, separate entity.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_00: So that's kind of I think I heard something about that.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, ooh, that's what I want to do, but in my own way with boots.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_01: So who are your who are some of your biggest influences in life?
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: That's a tough one.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: Gosh, I feel like I need some role models, don't I?
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_01: You got them.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know you got them.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: I loved growing up.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: I watched Roseanne.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: I watched the Roseanne show.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, like the one-liners.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_00: I that's I think where I got a lot of my sense of humor and my parents.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: So there you go.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there you go.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_00: I actually really admire.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, are you familiar with Delilah?
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, yes.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_01: And here's the funny part.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: I was gonna drop this later, but I was gonna say, gosh, your voice is incredibly Delilah-esque.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_01: I could just like listen to you and you could put me to sleep.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: When I do that, when I do that, the that tone that she does, uh warm one of 6.9, that stuff, yeah.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_00: She recently, I have always been a big fan of hers.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: I've never met her.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_00: She's local.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, she's incredibly successful.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: And there's uh she's the only woman that I know of that has success in her own right, not attached to, you know, Robin um is attached to Howard Stern.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: She's the sidekick.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: She's Delilah is the only one I know that did it on her own.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I read recently that she bought the station that she started at.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_01: That's amazing.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, that's cool.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_00: And she's evidently like super into charity and adopting.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I also heard, and I don't know if this is true, but that she has a dirty, foul mouth.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, oh my god, I remember.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_01: It just makes her so.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if that's true.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to spread rumors, but if it is true, I love it.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_01: So, in your time in radio, did you ever get just tired of music?
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, all the time.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: So, so what like after year two, like or year one, yeah.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: I would just turn it down, do your own thing.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_00: When you do, it's very hard doing different day parts.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: You know, a morning show is very different than doing a show on your own.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I personally think doing it by yourself is is harder in terms of like vocal like talent.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's difficult to talk without being announcer-y right by yourself.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: So there's this very fine line between talking to someone and announcing to someone.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: And that's something that morning shows don't have to worry about as much because you're talking to each other.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_00: So right.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_01: And you were on a top 40 station.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: So, like, did you ever disconnect yourself and like, okay, I've I've heard enough top 40 shit.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: I need to go listen to something completely off the wall.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love everything.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_00: And when you're at the top 40 station, I mean, anything that you're listening to, you get killed.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, out on it.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_00: You're just, you're done.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's why most people, you're doing stuff in between breaks anyway, you're turning it down, but enough so you know what's going on.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean, I love country, I love top 40, I like dirty, dirty, hard beats, I like oldies, I like classical.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: It all depends on my mood.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_00: I I really don't have a favorite.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: I change it a lot.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: Sure, sure.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_01: So if you were to name a record or one album that you could put on, listen to from start to finish, and it doesn't matter what season of your life you are in, what would that record be?
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_00: There's very few albums that I've like I can listen to the whole thing.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe an MM album.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I actually used to have this question that I would ask people all the time, like on dates and whatnot.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't even have an answer for myself, but what would be your top 12 songs on your mixed tape of life?
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_00: If you had only 12 songs to listen to for the rest of your life, which ones would they be?
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I have about, I think three or four songs that I'd put on there.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like one of them is Darius Rucker, um, Wagon Wheel.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: I love that song.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_00: I also love uh The Kiss from uh The Last of the Mohican soundtrack.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_01: That's true.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_00: So just a very weird, eclectic um mix of songs.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I can't say anything.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: I like I, you know, if I'm listening to music by myself, it's like, you know, all my friends know me as this hard rock guy, or I'm listening to hip hop, but realistically, uh like I'll throw on something from Lay Miz every once in a while when I'm listening by myself.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_01: I I find that this time of year, every year, I'm always sharing on Facebook, I'm sharing Incubus' morning view because that album is one I could listen to from front to back.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_01: So that's why I like asking that question.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: Rock is the only genre that I'm not super into.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: I used to call it my all of my boyfriends have have listened to my ex-husband.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_00: I call it killing puppies music.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: Anything you want to throw a puppy at the wall, like just that screaming.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_00: But I do like uh, what's his name?
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_00: Uh oh, I just blanked.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um he did, he's got that great like opera singing voice, but he's a rock guy.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_00: Disturbed.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_00: When he does uh Sound of Silence, that's that would go on that that CD of mine, like one of my top favorite songs.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's beautiful when he does it.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, my wife's the same way.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like, she well, see, I've I've been married twice, so I'm on my second marriage, but uh she didn't know me during the band years.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_01: And like so, when she hears my band stuff, she's like, We just shut this shit off.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: So take my eye twice by like now.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: I can't do it.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right, right, exactly.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, well, you know, I had tons and tons of people come and watch me do this crap, but pretty popular.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of girls with their panties on stage just saying, Well, yeah, well, I I can't I can't drop that card, but uh you should make it up.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_01: You got in my head uh a couple of days ago.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_01: So one of your TikTok videos is your train, which we were talking about at the start of this, and you got quad city DJs come on ride the train playing in the background.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, my 14-year-old daughter and I were on a train at the zoo, and their PA system was broken on the train.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: So, of course, cringy dad moment.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_01: I fire up my cell phone, and just because I had it already in my head, quad city DJs come on ride the train.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: I I appreciate that.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: When I recorded that video, I actually had a different song in the background and I played it.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um, excuse me, I was D.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_01: Bless you.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: Allergies, I swear it's not COVID.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I had Long Black Train originally playing, so I was trying to think of all the train songs that I knew, and there were only two.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_00: So I thought the Quad City DJs one would probably do better on TikTok.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_00: A marketing choice, a marketing choice.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: For sure, for sure.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_01: So you're you're open to move if the right opportunity comes your way.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'm ready to move, to be honest.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_00: I've lived in Seattle a long time, and I don't really think of it as home.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there's aspects of it that I love, um, and there's aspects of it that I just not a fan of.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_01: If you had to pick a place to go to, like out of you had your choice of anywhere in the world, where would you go?
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_00: Because it'll it's so there's so many factors, but I I do think I've realized like I went through the top 100 radio markets and like checked off like, okay, I would live there, I would live there, I would live there.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_00: I have more places that I don't want to live.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I do not want to live in Florida.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_00: I I hate snakes.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to worry about alligators when I'm walking my dog, the heat, the crazy people of Florida.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's some quite lovely places in Florida.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_00: And with my luck, I just I I attract crazies.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like, so I wouldn't want to do that.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to do any of the Dakotas or Wyoming, um, any place that's too hot.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_01: The list gets smaller and smaller.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't really have any desire to live in New York and LA.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like, New York's an amazing city, but like I don't want to live in a shoebox.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: LA, I feel like I'd become a bad person like quite easily.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there's just so many things.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't know.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: I but my mom was telling me when we moved around a lot, she's like, you know, some of the places that we dreaded moving to were some of our favorites.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_00: So it's all about what you make of it.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I I'm interested in moving to the south because that's where I spent a big portion of my childhood.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, there's a lot of drawbacks, but I like the warm, welcoming people because Seattle are they're just not warm and welcoming.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: They're not mean, but they're just their own breed, right?
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, my mom was agreeing with me because my parents are both from here originally.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: My dad's from Seattle, my mom's from a city um outside of Seattle, Mount Vernon.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_00: And her friends from elementary school all meet together and have lunch still.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_00: And those friends, they have my mom, but those are the only other people that they hang out with.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I mean, they take Drake's no new friends to heart.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um I love meeting new people.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean, I make I can't tell you how many people, like girls that I've made friends with in the bathroom.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_00: And like people, like when I lost my job, they're like, I remember the first time I met you, and like so many people were like in the bathroom.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, cool, cool, cool.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_00: Drunk me is very friendly, right?
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you're gonna move to the Potomac and bump into the real housewives down there or Atlanta.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: I would love to live in any city where the real housewives are.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: There's a part of me, I don't think I could live in Jersey because I think I would be like this all the time.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like it seems like a completely different world to me.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_00: And the fact that they think they're normal is fascinating to me.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_00: But I would love to go for a weekend to the shore and just people watch.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_00: That is my idea of like a romantic weekend getaway.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we were having a dumb conversation last night of which one of the real husbands I am closest to.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, I man, I tell you what, I'm a huge fan of Joe Gorga.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_01: He's somebody I could hang out with.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_00: I would prefer to hang out with the real housewives or real house husbands of New Jersey than the real housewives, like for legitimate fun.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, like I would kill Teresa in real life, like I would murder her in her sleep.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_00: She's great television, but she's incredibly dumb and a kind of a bad person.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_00: So I would murder her.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_00: But great TV, great TV.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely it is, absolutely it is.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but like her hypocrisy, like, I don't know how some of these went.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_00: I would just be like, Are you kidding me?
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_01: So do you watch all the seasons then?
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_00: Of course I do.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_00: Again, unemployed, have nothing better to do.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's my other favorite thing when like people were like, Oh, hey, can you have a Zoom meeting?
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I have nothing to do, of course I can make time for you.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: So, so what's your favorite city out of all of them?
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_01: Is it Jersey?
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_00: Uh no, um, it's not the OC because that's gone downhill.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, Atlanta can be a bit much for me sometimes.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_00: I really like Potomac, and I really liked Salt Lake City, and I liked um Beverly Hills' hit or miss, but I think this season is gonna be good.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_01: So I have to play it off that I don't watch it, but it's like I think it's fantastic.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's on my TV constantly.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_01: I mean constantly.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's the only reality TV show that I would really want to do.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_01: Is it is it is it reality or is it reality?
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_00: No, I think all of them are the women are even if there's not a script.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think there's a script, but there's producers who are pushing things and the women have their own agenda.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_00: You know, the the bachelor and the bachelorette at this point when people are like, I hope you're here for the right reasons.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's like everyone is there for to be able to quit their job and hawk stuff on Instagram, and there's nothing wrong with that.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_00: But that is, let's not pretend like it's anything else than that, and hopefully, you know, meet someone too in the process.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_00: But the no one is there just for love and not there to sell tummy tea on Instagram.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_01: Come on, right.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_01: Well, look at us.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_01: We've talked radio, we've talked TikTok, and we've talked real housewives.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: See how I lit up when we talked about the real housewives?
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, yes, it's amazing, it's amazing.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I love it.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_00: Garbage and I love garbage, it's hot, flaming garbage.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, sign me up.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_01: So, what are some words of encouragement that you have to send out to the world?
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_00: I think what you think is going to be worst scenario.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I have some friends who are scared to death about losing their jobs.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I I think to really break down your fears and why you're afraid, and to know that what you think is going to be the worst thing could end up being a wonderful thing in disguise.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I think there's so much, every bad situation, there's something to be learned.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_00: And whether that's dating and someone is awful to you and you allow it.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's just there's lessons to be had in everything.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm learning to be a you know, silver lining in it every situation kind of girl, you know, not having to wear a mask and a global pandemic while I don't have to brush my teeth or, you know, put makeup on if I'm doing a quick little jaunt and no one's gonna recognize me and having liquor delivered now, like it's not all bad.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_01: You know, absolutely, absolutely.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_01: Have you had your second shot yet?
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_01: Because I saw it on TikTok you've had your first one.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I just made the appointment today for the 18th.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh boy.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_01: So did you have any side effects from the first one?
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, well, I'm not sure because I drove to Wenatchee for it because it's the only place I could get a um an appointment, and that's three hours there, three hours back.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_00: And when I came home, my dog was screaming in pain.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_00: So I immediately went to the emergency vet and was there.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_00: I got home at 6 p.m.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_00: at night.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_00: I hadn't eaten all day, and then I spent, I left the emergency vet at 12:30.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_00: So I was in the car the entire day, and then I was crying, which and my body, every time I cry, I get horrible migraines.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, oh, you're sad.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we're gonna make you not feel good too.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I was in the car, my body ached from being like this, and then I had a headache.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_00: So who knows how much of that was from the shot and how much of it was from circumstances.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm how is the dog?
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: He's hit or miss.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_01: Gotcha.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's doing better, but like he's been whining about pooping.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: Oh I don't know if he's constipated, but he's just like little turds will fall out just randomly.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, what are you doing?
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it it looks like it looks like he's enjoying this time in the in the bed tent with you.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_01: So I mean, who who doesn't want an in-house clubhouse?
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, come on.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_00: My scrubble cuddle tent.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_01: That's it's amazing.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_00: I zip them in.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, you have to love me now.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's just what I do with my boyfriends, too.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_00: Love me, hold me.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_01: So tell everybody where they can find you online.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_00: You can find me on uh TikTok at Mason on the Mic and Instagram at Mason on the Mic and Twitter, which I don't really use.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's Mason on the Mic.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for thanks for doing the podcast.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_01: I really appreciate you doing it.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for having me.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_01: I have a feeling that this is going to be one of those episodes where we stop and we think, remember when, and we come back and visit it later down the line.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: Uh big shout out to Mason for doing the show.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, if you haven't started following her yet, Mason on the mic on TikTok and Mason on the mic on Twitter.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_01: Also Mason on the mic on Instagram.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry about the two-week-long hiccup, my friends.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_01: I had some other guests on the books and some stuff fell through, and you know, shit happens.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_01: But here we are now, and we've got some great guests in the pipeline for the next couple of weeks, possibly next couple of months, and uh, I'm glad you're sticking with it.
• 40:43
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• 40:50
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• 40:56
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• 41:04
  SPEAKER_01: This has been Caught on the Mic with Michael Clark.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_01: Until next time.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.