Latest / Technically Sound Strategy / Episode 47 - Inside Connectionology: Key Takeaways from "Depositions Are Trial" With Ginger Jirik
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- 0:00Hi everyone and welcome back to Legal Marketing Radio.
- 0:03I'm joined today by Ginger Jirik, the Executive Director of
- 0:06Connectionology Seminars of America.
- 0:09If you've ever been to a connectionology event, you know that Ginger is
- 0:12the energy behind the experience.
- 0:14She brings together some of the best minds in the legal field
- 0:17and creates an environment that's both educational and inspiring.
- 0:21Today we're talking about what makes connectionology unique.
- 0:24And looking into some of their exciting programming coming next for 2026,
- 0:28including Sun Valley, Idaho, and their upcoming conference in Italy in the fall.
- 0:34It's great to have you here today, ginger.
- 0:36Today we've got Ginger Jirik with us with connectionology which is a conference
- 0:40series that we've been really happy to be a part of through the years.
- 0:44And it's, and I think they do a wonderful job programming.
- 0:47But I really happy to have you here today.
- 0:49Thank you for taking the time.
- 0:51And I wanted to talk to you a little bit about technology . As we were
- 0:55prepping, we were talking a little bit about the upcoming one in January.
- 0:58But Give me some background, where did the series come from?
- 1:01Who runs it?
- 1:02What's the.
- 1:03What's the background?
- 1:04Absolutely.
- 1:05First of all, Chip, it is an honor to be here with you today and to speak about a
- 1:09program that is so special and dear to us.
- 1:12connectionology was started back in 2012 by John Romano.
- 1:16As you guys know, great attorney down in West Palm Beach with the Roman Law Group.
- 1:21He has always been a teacher.
- 1:22He loves to share knowledge, so that's how he came up with the
- 1:25concept of Connectology as a company that could go to a lot of different
- 1:31places around the country and connect personal injury lawyers and also some
- 1:35criminal defense lawyers as well.
- 1:37And just bring in experts and incredible speakers and travel to locations that
- 1:43people might not necessarily go to.
- 1:45I think one of our first seminars we did, as a full company was
- 1:49in Charlotte, North Carolina.
- 1:52And then we went to places like Hershey, Pennsylvania and we
- 1:56just kept going , Savannah, Charleston, Santa Fe, New Mexico.
- 2:00And now we've started to find our spot.
- 2:04Nashville, Tennessee was an incredible location where we did our.
- 2:09TBI, traumatic brain injury seminar.
- 2:12And John brought in all of his great, friends and lawyers and
- 2:15experts from around the country.
- 2:17And we did that.
- 2:18And it was such a great, great experience.
- 2:21We had so many wonderful exhibitors and partners and friends that came
- 2:25and was a part of this as well.
- 2:27And you guys were there with us the whole time.
- 2:29And so that went so well that we decided, this year, 2025, let's switch it up.
- 2:35Let's go ahead to a new place.
- 2:37Let's go to Sun Valley, Idaho.
- 2:39And it's not a place again that most people would be like, Hey, let's go.
- 2:43But it is an incredible destination in the mountains and.
- 2:48So we decided to go there this year and it was a great hit.
- 2:51So now we've decided we're going back, we did a poll between all of
- 2:55the attorneys, Nashville, sun Valley.
- 2:58They picked Sun Valley again.
- 2:59So the date for that one is actually gonna be April 20th through the 24th, and we're
- 3:05gonna be going to the Sun Valley Lodge.
- 3:07Cool.
- 3:07And this one's a little smaller too, right?
- 3:09This is a little bit more, this is a tighter group, I know.
- 3:12We work with a lot of attorneys across the spectrum in terms of experience, but
- 3:16especially the younger attorneys who are really getting their start, they're always
- 3:20looking for that opportunity to, kind of kinda join the club, right of mm-hmm.
- 3:25Building that network of people who help them grow their cases and get better
- 3:30settlements get better results of trial.
- 3:32This one's a little bit more intimate, right?
- 3:34We I didn't make it last year.
- 3:36We're planning on it this year, but.
- 3:38Usually there's about I would say, less than a hundred attorneys and we like
- 3:42to keep our programs like in that range because when you go to programs like
- 3:46that, you can really get that opportunity to talk with everybody one-on-one.
- 3:50And one of the greatest things I think about this TBI seminar is when
- 3:54our speakers are coming, these are speakers that are actually trying cases.
- 3:59Hundreds of them, and they love sharing all of their knowledge.
- 4:02So when you come to a program like this, you're gonna be able to spend
- 4:05four to five days with these speakers.
- 4:07And they don't typically just fly in, fly out, they spend a good amount
- 4:11of their time with everyone and you get to know everybody who's there.
- 4:14And there's a lot of great, conferences that are also larger ones that have
- 4:18hundreds or thousands of people.
- 4:19I feel like every single one of them has something unique and special they bring.
- 4:23Mm-hmm.
- 4:23To the.
- 4:24The platform.
- 4:25But for ours, we like to keep them pretty, tight knit.
- 4:28Yeah, I mean we've sponsored a lot of different conferences through the
- 4:31years and each one has their advantage.
- 4:33And I think as a vendor, when we go, one of the first things that by
- 4:38default people look at is the size.
- 4:41And they say, oh, we're gonna have this many people.
- 4:42And I find like the inverse to be more valuable because when
- 4:45we have so many people, we don't really build relationships.
- 4:49We, we may get some visibility and there's some value in that, or there's
- 4:52some brand lift, but we don't really.
- 4:55Build the relationships and get to know the people that are there.
- 4:57And I know that just from the Connectology events that we've been to, I know
- 5:01John I know Steve Gersten really well.
- 5:03There's a bunch of people that we just see when we go and we get to catch up with.
- 5:07And I think that's one of the really big differentiators is that.
- 5:12We look forward to it because we know it's not just about the sponsorship.
- 5:16We don't just sit at a booth.
- 5:18We actually get to hang out and talk with and learn, from the programming.
- 5:21This one is your TBI conference?
- 5:23Okay.
- 5:23And who are you gonna have this year and what do you have?
- 5:26Do you have some structure on the content already?
- 5:29Absolutely.
- 5:29In fact, the agenda will probably be released in the next two weeks
- 5:34or so, but we've already got several great attorneys that are coming.
- 5:37One in particular, I think, Joey Lowe out of California, he'll be coming.
- 5:41What, speaking about TBI, obviously John Romano will be there.
- 5:45We've invited Steve Geron in.
- 5:48Just some of the great, I think, I lma out of Phoenix.
- 5:53And then there's also.
- 5:55Some other great attorneys Liz Swivel, who I think, down in Florida, so many
- 6:00wonderful people that are coming.
- 6:02And then one thing that we're doing a little bit different this year, chip,
- 6:05which I think is great, is when you talked about how you guys come to these seminars,
- 6:11I'm always trying to think about ways that we can incorporate working together.
- 6:14So having you get up there and speak and share to the group
- 6:17about what you do is so important.
- 6:20Also what we're thinking about doing this year is for anybody who's coming
- 6:23is we wanna somehow pair you up with one of the speakers who's gonna be there.
- 6:27So you get a chance to actually demonstrate what
- 6:29you do in front of the group.
- 6:32So if they're talking about a certain case, you could talk about
- 6:34how you were involved with it, what you did, but somehow we wanna
- 6:37figure out how to involve more.
- 6:40That's cool.
- 6:41Yeah.
- 6:41Of your expertise and.
- 6:44It's so important to us to figure out how to make that work because what you
- 6:47guys do is so important and we wanna make sure we get the word out to everybody.
- 6:52No that's Really cool.
- 6:54I think as time has gone by, as AI has taken a bigger and bigger
- 6:58a bigger and bigger place in our world, I've found that we've even
- 7:02repositioned our own brand, right?
- 7:04It's more of a growth engine partner because.
- 7:08It just is becoming more and more common for us to partner with the
- 7:11attorneys that we work with, both on the marketing side, but then also
- 7:14on the business practice, and even on the legal side of what they do.
- 7:18Not to provide advice of course, but just to help build tools and build things
- 7:23that they're able to use in helping them with their cases and things like that.
- 7:26And I think that, as we look at.
- 7:29Conferences like this, it seems like that's an area where we're
- 7:31gonna see a lot of traction.
- 7:33I know that when we go, every vendor has AI plastered all over their
- 7:37booths, but sometimes it's harder to get into and understand what
- 7:42they're actually doing with it.
- 7:43And I tend to take the view that we have the big AI providers the
- 7:47big platforms and those LLMs drive.
- 7:49Most of what everybody's using.
- 7:52So there's little flavors and things like that.
- 7:54Mm-hmm.
- 7:54How are you seeing, how are you seeing that kind of content
- 7:57pop up in the conferences that, that you're planning out?
- 8:01We've actually been seeing quite a bit of it lately and I think, a
- 8:03lot of the different companies that are out there and I think pretty
- 8:08much I would say demonstrating what they do has been a little bit more.
- 8:15I guess valuable.
- 8:16Then if somebody just gets up there and says what they do, if they can get up
- 8:19there and show a demonstration, like when we did the webinar with you and
- 8:23you were able to talk about ai, people are very visual when it comes to that,
- 8:27I would say that's what's been helping me a lot is just having people come
- 8:29and do these webinars and speak on them and then that way when they end
- 8:32up coming to the conferences, they get to meet you personally and then they
- 8:36already have an idea about what you do.
- 8:39But I would say AI has definitely been incorporated in a lot of the
- 8:42different presentations that I've seen.
- 8:44The attorneys are extremely.
- 8:46They're into it and you've gotta be.
- 8:48Mm-hmm.
- 8:48It's one of those things where you're gonna be left behind if
- 8:50you're not doing it already.
- 8:51Yeah.
- 8:51And I know it can get overwhelming when there are so many different companies
- 8:55doing it, but I think just having them up there on, on the stage, having them do
- 9:01these webinars in advance, it really helps the attorneys get an idea about what they
- 9:05actually do and how they can help 'em.
- 9:06Yeah, that makes sense.
- 9:07I had a great conversation with Eric Romano to talk through some
- 9:10of the things that they're doing, and it's exciting to see that.
- 9:12I think as time goes on, we'll see more and more attorneys talking about
- 9:15how they're, how they are using these tools in their practice, mm-hmm.
- 9:19I think we're a little ways off of that, but I think that'll
- 9:21start happening pretty quickly.
- 9:23I know Steve has talked, Steve Gerson's talked about that quite a bit, about
- 9:25just touching on how they're starting to use it, and I think that's a whole
- 9:29world to start exploring as well.
- 9:32What's it like working with all of these attorneys and trying to
- 9:35trying to herd that group together to put these conferences on?
- 9:38That's a lot of juggling to get speakers, to get attendees.
- 9:42Tell me a little bit about what that looks like.
- 9:43What's the behind the scenes?
- 9:45It's honestly so much fun and I feel like I have learned about myself in ways that
- 9:51I never knew, but working under pressure.
- 9:54Who, who would've thought that all this can happen and then happen quickly?
- 9:58But I enjoy every single day I wake up and I'm like, oh my gosh,
- 10:02what are privileges to work with?
- 10:03So many great people around the country.
- 10:06And I think what makes it so easy though, is because people like you,
- 10:10people like John Romano and everyone, they wake up, they're enthusiastic
- 10:14about their job, they love what they do, and they get, they're eager.
- 10:18Like you wanna get up and work, you wanna get going.
- 10:20So when I make that phone call to a speaker and I said, Hey,
- 10:23we would love to feature you.
- 10:24Come out to Sun Valley, Idaho with us.
- 10:27They get excited and they immediately check their schedule.
- 10:29If they're free, it's a yes.
- 10:31Mm-hmm.
- 10:31Everybody wants to be a part of this.
- 10:34And I think word has been catching on, like around the country,
- 10:36people are hearing more about connection and I think it's because.
- 10:40We truly care about getting that education out there.
- 10:43Whether you're a young lawyer, whether you're a solo practitioner
- 10:46or somebody running a huge firm we wanna work with everybody.
- 10:50And, when you come to our programs, chip, you've probably seen,
- 10:54some really big time lawyers.
- 10:55They're already making millions of dollars and Yeah.
- 10:57Getting great verdicts, but it's just the comradery with the group.
- 11:02And we love working with good people, but I wake up every
- 11:05day just blessed being able to.
- 11:07Make those phone calls, and it is a little bit stressful, I'm not gonna
- 11:11lie, but it's a fun, stressful, that's one of the, and then when you go to
- 11:15one of these programs and you see all the work that's been put into it, and
- 11:20people are so willing to help, yeah.
- 11:22When I call you up and they say, Hey, can you get the word
- 11:24out and share what we're doing?
- 11:26You guys are like, yes.
- 11:28And it's a great feeling.
- 11:29No, that's cool.
- 11:31It's one of The things that I've taken away just in, in running my own agency.
- 11:35There is a comradery and there's a willingness to
- 11:37help in the legal community.
- 11:39There's some, there's a little bit of protectiveness, right?
- 11:42Of their home turf.
- 11:43They don't wanna go and they don't want to go and share all their secrets with
- 11:45the attorney next door, but they'll go to a conference and do the same thing with,
- 11:49and the attorney next door may be there.
- 11:51Mm-hmm.
- 11:52But it's something that I've tried to incorporate in my agency as well is,
- 11:56how do we get, how do we get together with other agencies, with other business
- 11:59owners and share what's working for us.
- 12:02I think it makes us all sharper.
- 12:03It makes us all better.
- 12:05Mm-hmm.
- 12:05And I love seeing that, I went to a Ben Glass conference many years ago when
- 12:08I was first starting out on my own.
- 12:10And one of his big initiative was trying to get mastermind groups together.
- 12:15And, when I look at connection especially one, like the one coming up in April,
- 12:20you really have that opportunity to start building your own group.
- 12:23And there are ways to do that can be, I think, facilitated very well with, groups
- 12:28like us where we bring attorneys together, but it's not something that's within
- 12:31reach of anybody by going and starting to build those relationships because
- 12:35those groups are built, really built on relationships and then having occasions.
- 12:38Yeah.
- 12:39And so that's one of the things that I've seen come out of these is you start the
- 12:42relationship at a conference like this.
- 12:45That turns into somebody that you chat with.
- 12:47And then if one person's willing to take that initiative to say, you know
- 12:51what, let's get together once a quarter.
- 12:53We can do a video call once a quarter.
- 12:54Mm-hmm.
- 12:54Or maybe we get together once a year, and if you can get three to five people
- 12:58in a room to talk about the practice and non-competing, non-competing
- 13:01geographies, man, you just get some amazing insights and that's where.
- 13:07Going to the conference and then weaving that into the rest of your
- 13:09practice really comes to life.
- 13:11Everybody needs their CLEs.
- 13:12I get that.
- 13:13Get that, but then also start to build a relationship and
- 13:16start building those groups.
- 13:18And my favorite thing in the whole entire world is to collaborate.
- 13:21Yeah.
- 13:21I love when we do different seminars or programs and we work with
- 13:24other groups and other people, and especially when we do our webinars,
- 13:29I want every one of our speakers to be out there promoting themself.
- 13:32I want them to be sharing about the books that they wrote, the
- 13:35podcasts that they do the seminars that they are forming themselves.
- 13:39I don't look at it, neither does John, nobody as competition.
- 13:43This is something that we're in it all together.
- 13:46It's amazing what happens when you start sharing things with all sorts of people
- 13:50and I'm all about just get the word out about what you do because you never know
- 13:53who you're gonna help down the road.
- 13:55I love that.
- 13:55I love that.
- 13:56I appreciate you taking the time.
- 13:58Can you just real quick give, just give the details again on the
- 14:01upcoming conference and then let me know if you have anything else
- 14:03coming up the rest of the year.
- 14:05Oh, absolutely.
- 14:06So our fifth annual traumatic brain injury seminar is gonna be in Sun Valley, Idaho.
- 14:12It'll be April 20th through the 24th.
- 14:14So it's gonna be about four to five days where we do all sorts of
- 14:17events and activities and education.
- 14:20And the program is only gonna go from eight to one each day.
- 14:23And then we're.
- 14:24We're gonna do things together.
- 14:25We're gonna be going fishing, we're gonna be going golfing, we're gonna
- 14:27be doing, different activities.
- 14:29'cause I think you build a lot of relationships and it is everybody
- 14:32as a group, it's all of our partners, it's all of our attendees,
- 14:36attorneys everybody, speakers.
- 14:39We're all just gonna spend time together.
- 14:41And I really hope that people will consider coming to this.
- 14:44And you don't have to be.
- 14:46Seasoned, you might not even practice traumatic brain injury, but this is a
- 14:49great opportunity 'cause you're gonna go and you're gonna hear everything
- 14:53from intermediate to advanced.
- 14:55And I've always believed, if it's, even if you don't practice, like you
- 14:58said, traumatic brain injury, nursing home medical malpractice, at least get
- 15:02out there and learn a little bit about it because you never know if you're
- 15:04gonna really get interested in it.
- 15:06And then you're gonna wanna bring that on as part of your practice.
- 15:09So we've got that program coming up.
- 15:11And then also we are extremely excited.
- 15:15We are going to Italy, we are doing, going to international.
- 15:19We're gonna be.
- 15:20You gonna come to that one?
- 15:21Sure.
- 15:22Probably.
- 15:22Sure.
- 15:23That's so great.
- 15:23No
- 15:24we've signed the contract.
- 15:26We're going to the Palace Hotel, which is right on Lo Lake Como, and
- 15:30that one is gonna be in November.
- 15:32It's actually the 16th of the 20th.
- 15:35Oh, sweet.
- 15:35And we're in the middle of getting that one all worked out right now
- 15:38and getting our speakers lined up.
- 15:40But it is happening, we're going abroad and That's awesome.
- 15:44I can't wait to release the details and something that I'm
- 15:46very excited that I've been able.
- 15:49To announce now First Live with you, chip on this podcast is that connection.
- 15:54Aji is actually developing a pain, injury and damages institute that we're gonna
- 16:00be doing next year and John's gonna be inviting some of them the greatest
- 16:04international as well as national speakers that specialize in this.
- 16:09And we're gonna be picking a great city and we'll be launching that in 2026.
- 16:14That's awesome.
- 16:15That's incredible.
- 16:16And thank you for sharing it here first.
- 16:17That's so exciting.
- 16:18I'm honored.
- 16:19That's awesome.
- 16:20That's something to look forward to.
- 16:21Sweet.
- 16:22Absolutely.
- 16:23And then we're gonna continue our webinars, so yeah, I hope you'll be on
- 16:26there and speaking with us and we're gonna continue doing those each week.
- 16:30So there's a lot of great things coming up in 2026 and
- 16:33we're excited to keep doing it.
- 16:36I love it.
- 16:36Thank you.
- 16:36Thank you so much, Ginger.
- 16:37I appreciate you taking the time.
- 16:39I look forward to being a part of what's coming up too.
- 16:42Absolutely.
- 16:42Thank you, chip.
- 16:44That's it for today's episode of Legal Marketing Radio.
- 16:47A huge thank you to Ginger for joining us and sharing some teasers
- 16:50for Connectionology upcoming year.
- 16:52If you haven't already, check out Connectionology.com to stay up to date
- 16:56on upcoming sessions and speaker lineups.
- 16:59And you could also connect with Ginger on LinkedIn for more info.
- 17:03If you'd like to hear more conversations like this one, spotlighting the people
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- 17:13Thank you for joining me, Chip LaFleur.
- 17:15See you next time on Legal Marketing Radio.