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The Burden of Celebrity: Mental Health in the Spotlight · Music Explored Podcast

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  Well,
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  I
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  kind
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  of,
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  I
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  have
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  like
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  a
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  really
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  kind
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  of
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  odd
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  beginning.
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  I
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  had
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  a
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  past
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  life
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  memory
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  when
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  I
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  was
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  two
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  and
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  a
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  half
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  years
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  old.
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  I
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  started
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  asking
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  my
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  parents
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  about
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  my
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  other
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  parents
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  and
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  this
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  other
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  life
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  that
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  I
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  had
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  in
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  Spain.
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  And
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  they
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  were
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  like.
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  And
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  my
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  father
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  was
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  raised
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  Roman
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  Catholic,
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  my
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  mother
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  Jewish.
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  So
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  they
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  weren't
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  like,
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  you
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  know,
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  they
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  didn't
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  know
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  what
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  I
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  was
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  talking
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  about,
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  but
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  they
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  were
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  curious,
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  they
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  didn't
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  shut
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  me
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  down.
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  And
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  they
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  were
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  like,
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  you
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  know,
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  and
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  they.
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  So
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  they
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  asked
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  me
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  questions
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  about
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  it.
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  And
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  shortly
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  thereafter
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  that
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  I
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  sort
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  of
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  was
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  hearing
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  like,
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  you
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  know,
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  I
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  could
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  like
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  I
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  was
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  having
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  clairvoyant,
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  clairaudient
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  experiences
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  where
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  I
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  could
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  like
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  hear
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  beings
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  from
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  the
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  other
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  side.
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  And
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  so
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  my
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  parents
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  didn't
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  exactly
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  know
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  what
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  to
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  do,
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  so
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  they
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  would
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  take
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  me
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  to
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  like
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  astrologers
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  and
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  psychics
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  and
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  stuff.
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  And
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  they'd
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  be
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  like,
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  oh,
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  she's
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  a
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  psychic,
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  she's
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  a
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  healer,
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  this,
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  that
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  and
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  the
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  other.
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  And
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  so
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  around
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  nine
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  years
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  old,
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  I
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  read
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  this
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  book
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  called
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  Many
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  Lives,
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  Many
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  masters
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  by
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  a
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  Dr.
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  Brian
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  Weiss,
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  who
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  researched
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  for
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  many,
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  many
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  years
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  talking
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  with
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  children
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  under
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  the
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  age
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  of
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  five
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  and
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  doing
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  past
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  life
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  regression
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  therapy.
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  And
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  they
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  would
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  remember
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  their
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  previous
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  lives
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  and
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  then
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  he
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  would
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  take
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  them
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  to
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  like
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  the
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  place
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  they
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  were
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  telling
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  the
• 1:23
  story
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  about
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  and
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  like
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  names
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  and
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  people.
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  There's
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  like
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  no
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  way
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  these
• 1:26
  children
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  would
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  have
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  known
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  of
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  like,
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  you
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  know,
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  Robert,
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  such
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  and
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  such
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  in
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  some
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  island
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  off
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  of
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  Scotland.
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  Do
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  you
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  know
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  what
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  I
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  mean?
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  So
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  like
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  connecting
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  all
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  these
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  dots
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  and
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  basically
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  saying
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  how
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  before
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  the
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  age
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  of
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  five,
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  the
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  veil
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  is
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  really
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  thin
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  and
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  you
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  can
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  remember.
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  So
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  that
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  sent
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  me
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  on
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  this
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  sort
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  of
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  very
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  long,
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  deep
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  path
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  of
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  thinking
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  for
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  some
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  answers
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  and
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  skill
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  building
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  around
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  all
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  of
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  that.
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  So
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  that's
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  just
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  been
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  like
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  a
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  lifelong
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  path
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  for
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  me.
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  And
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  when
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  you
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  go
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  on
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  a
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  path
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  like
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  that,
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  I've
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  been
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  on
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  a
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  priestess
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  path
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  and
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  a
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  shamanic
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  path
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  and
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  all
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  different
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  energy
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  healing
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  modalities.
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  On
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  those
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  paths,
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  you
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  first
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  go
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  through
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  your
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  own
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  self
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  healing
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  process
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  so
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  that
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  you
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  could
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  then
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  support
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  others
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  in
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  their
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  process.
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  And
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  so
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  that's
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  just
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  sort
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  of
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  been
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  like
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  something
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  that's
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  just
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  like
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  an
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  intuitive
• 2:16
  part
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  of
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  my
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  life
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  because
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  I've
• 2:18
  been
• 2:18
  just
• 2:18
  trying
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  to
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  make
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  sense
• 2:20
  of
• 2:20
  it
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  all
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  for
• 2:22
  the
• 2:22
  majority
• 2:22
  of
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  my
• 2:23
  life.
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  And
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  then
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  I'd
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  say
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  alongside
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  that,
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  in
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  my
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  work
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  with
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  Alicia
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  and
• 2:29
  any
• 2:29
  other
• 2:30
  artists
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  that
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  I've
• 2:30
  worked
• 2:31
  with
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  again,
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  and
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  myself
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  being
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  an
• 2:32
  artist,
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  I
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  had
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  to
• 2:33
  push
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  through
• 2:34
  tremendous
• 2:34
  fear
• 2:36
  to
• 2:37
  write
• 2:38
  songs
• 2:38
  and
• 2:38
  to
• 2:38
  sing
• 2:39
  songs
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  and
• 2:39
  to
• 2:39
  do
• 2:39
  all
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  that
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  stuff.
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  And
• 2:40
  so,
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  and
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  really
• 2:42
  understanding
• 2:43
  where
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  that
• 2:44
  fear
• 2:44
  came
• 2:44
  from,
• 2:44
  where
• 2:45
  those
• 2:45
  blocks
• 2:45
  came
• 2:46
  from.
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  And
• 2:47
  so
• 2:48
  I
• 2:48
  felt
• 2:48
  really
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  Called.
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  Because
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  in
• 2:50
  the
• 2:50
  music
• 2:50
  business,
• 2:51
  it's
• 2:51
  like
• 2:51
  you've
• 2:51
  got
• 2:52
  artists
• 2:53
  and
• 2:53
  then
• 2:53
  you've
• 2:53
  got
• 2:54
  business.
• 2:55
  And
• 2:55
  I
• 2:56
  found
• 2:56
  myself
• 2:56
  kind
• 2:57
  of
• 2:57
  wedged
• 2:57
  in
• 2:57
  this
• 2:58
  place
• 2:58
  of,
• 2:58
  like,
• 2:59
  I
• 2:59
  was
• 2:59
  good
• 2:59
  at
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  both.
• 3:00
  I
• 3:00
  was
• 3:00
  an
• 3:01
  artist
• 3:01
  and
• 3:01
  I
• 3:01
  was
• 3:01
  good
• 3:02
  at
• 3:02
  business.
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  But
• 3:04
  I
• 3:04
  felt
• 3:04
  like
• 3:05
  a
• 3:05
  sense
• 3:05
  of
• 3:05
  responsibility
• 3:06
  to
• 3:07
  support
• 3:07
  artists
• 3:08
  in
• 3:08
  their
• 3:09
  own.
• 3:12
  In
• 3:12
  their
• 3:13
  own
• 3:13
  kind
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  of
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  personal
• 3:17
  growth
• 3:17
  work.
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  Because,
• 3:18
  you
• 3:18
  know,
• 3:18
  you
• 3:19
  see,
• 3:19
  you
• 3:19
  see,
• 3:19
  you
• 3:20
  know,
• 3:20
  I
• 3:20
  remember
• 3:21
  once,
• 3:21
  like,
• 3:21
  meeting
• 3:22
  with
• 3:22
  Barbra
• 3:22
  Streisand,
• 3:23
  and
• 3:23
  she
• 3:23
  talks
• 3:23
  about
• 3:23
  this
• 3:24
  publicly,
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  but
• 3:25
  you
• 3:25
  know
• 3:25
  how,
• 3:25
  like,
• 3:26
  she
• 3:26
  gets
• 3:27
  so
• 3:27
  nervous
• 3:28
  before
• 3:28
  she
• 3:28
  goes
• 3:29
  on
• 3:29
  stage.
• 3:29
  Like,
• 3:29
  sometimes
• 3:30
  she
• 3:30
  throws
• 3:30
  up.
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  So
• 3:32
  sometimes
• 3:32
  you
• 3:33
  see
• 3:33
  somebody
• 3:34
  who
• 3:34
  looks
• 3:35
  like
• 3:35
  the
• 3:35
  most
• 3:35
  confident
• 3:36
  badass
• 3:36
  in
• 3:36
  the
• 3:36
  whole
• 3:37
  world,
• 3:37
  and
• 3:37
  they're
• 3:37
  up
• 3:37
  on
• 3:37
  stage
• 3:38
  in
• 3:38
  an
• 3:38
  arena,
• 3:38
  but
• 3:38
  this
• 3:39
  person
• 3:39
  is
• 3:39
  struggling.
• 3:40
  As
• 3:40
  we
• 3:41
  know,
• 3:41
  we've
• 3:41
  lost
• 3:41
  so
• 3:41
  many
• 3:42
  artists
• 3:42
  early.
• 3:42
  So
• 3:43
  there
• 3:43
  is
• 3:43
  this
• 3:44
  interesting,
• 3:44
  like,
• 3:44
  dichotomy
• 3:45
  where
• 3:45
  artists
• 3:46
  are
• 3:47
  working
• 3:47
  with
• 3:47
  the
• 3:47
  most
• 3:48
  profound
• 3:49
  gift,
• 3:50
  that
• 3:51
  universal
• 3:52
  love.
• 3:52
  Language,
• 3:53
  in
• 3:53
  a
• 3:53
  way.
• 3:53
  But
• 3:54
  at
• 3:54
  the
• 3:54
  same
• 3:54
  time,
• 3:54
  there's
• 3:55
  also
• 3:55
  darkness
• 3:55
  and
• 3:56
  pain
• 3:56
  and
• 3:56
  trauma
• 3:57
  there.
• 3:57
  And
• 3:57
  a
• 3:58
  lot
• 3:58
  of
• 3:58
  the
• 3:58
  industry
• 3:58
  kind
• 3:59
  of
• 3:59
  fuels
• 3:59
  that
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  because
• 4:00
  there's
• 4:01
  this
• 4:01
  idea
• 4:01
  that
• 4:02
  you
• 4:02
  have
• 4:02
  to
• 4:02
  be
• 4:02
  in
• 4:02
  pain
• 4:03
  to
• 4:03
  write
• 4:03
  a
• 4:03
  good
• 4:03
  song
• 4:04
  or
• 4:04
  you
• 4:04
  have
• 4:04
  to
• 4:04
  be
• 4:04
  at.
• 4:05
  So
• 4:05
  there's
• 4:06
  not
• 4:06
  really
• 4:06
  a
• 4:06
  support
• 4:06
  mechanism
• 4:07
  around
• 4:07
  how
• 4:08
  to
• 4:09
  heal
• 4:10
  through
• 4:10
  that.
• 4:10
  So
• 4:10
  I
• 4:10
  found
• 4:11
  myself
• 4:11
  at
• 4:11
  the
• 4:11
  intersection
• 4:12
  of
• 4:12
  that
• 4:12
  and
• 4:12
  a
• 4:12
  lot
• 4:13
  of
• 4:13
  my
• 4:13
  relationships,
• 4:14
  and
• 4:14
  I
• 4:14
  felt
• 4:14
  like.
• 4:16
  I
• 4:16
  just
• 4:16
  felt
• 4:16
  a
• 4:16
  sense
• 4:16
  of
• 4:17
  responsibility
• 4:18
  there.
• 4:20
  That
• 4:21
  reminds
• 4:21
  me
• 4:21
  of
• 4:22
  when
• 4:22
  Selena
• 4:22
  Gomez
• 4:23
  canceled
• 4:24
  her
• 4:24
  massive
• 4:25
  tour
• 4:25
  because
• 4:25
  of
• 4:25
  anxiety.
• 4:26
  Yeah.
• 4:27
  And
• 4:28
  that
• 4:28
  seemed
• 4:28
  to
• 4:28
  have
• 4:28
  come
• 4:29
  as
• 4:29
  a
• 4:29
  big
• 4:29
  surprise
• 4:30
  to
• 4:30
  everyone.
• 4:30
  But
• 4:30
  it's.
• 4:31
  It
• 4:31
  can
• 4:31
  be
• 4:31
  terrifying
• 4:32
  even
• 4:32
  if
• 4:32
  you
• 4:32
  do
• 4:32
  it
• 4:33
  every
• 4:33
  day
• 4:34
  going
• 4:34
  out
• 4:35
  and
• 4:35
  there's
• 4:35
  10,
• 4:36
  20,
• 4:36
  30,000
• 4:37
  people
• 4:37
  there
• 4:37
  watching.
• 4:38
  You
• 4:38
  should
• 4:38
  just
• 4:38
  have
• 4:38
  to
• 4:38
  cancel
• 4:38
  the
• 4:39
  whole
• 4:39
  thing.
• 4:39
  So
• 4:40
  Barbra
• 4:40
  Streisand
• 4:40
  has
• 4:40
  that.
• 4:41
  True.
• 4:41
  She's
• 4:41
  just
• 4:41
  immense
• 4:41
  pressure.
• 4:42
  Yes,
• 4:43
  she's
• 4:43
  got
• 4:43
  performance
• 4:44
  anxiety
• 4:44
  in
• 4:44
  a
• 4:44
  big
• 4:45
  way,
• 4:45
  but
• 4:46
  it's
• 4:46
  just.
• 4:46
  It's
• 4:47
  like
• 4:47
  even
• 4:47
  beyond
• 4:47
  that.
• 4:49
  I
• 4:49
  remember
• 4:50
  we
• 4:50
  came
• 4:50
  out,
• 4:51
  we
• 4:51
  worked
• 4:52
  really,
• 4:52
  really
• 4:52
  hard
• 4:52
  on
• 4:53
  Alicia's
• 4:53
  first
• 4:54
  album
• 4:54
  for
• 4:54
  many,
• 4:54
  many
• 4:55
  years
• 4:55
  before
• 4:56
  she
• 4:56
  came
• 4:56
  out.
• 4:57
  And
• 4:57
  then
• 4:58
  all
• 4:58
  of
• 4:58
  a
• 4:58
  sudden,
• 4:58
  it
• 4:58
  was
• 4:59
  like
• 4:59
  10
• 4:59
  million
• 4:59
  records
• 5:00
  and
• 5:00
  five
• 5:01
  Grammys
• 5:01
  or
• 5:01
  whatever
• 5:02
  the
• 5:02
  case.
• 5:02
  And
• 5:03
  all
• 5:03
  of
• 5:03
  a
• 5:03
  sudden,
• 5:04
  you're
• 5:04
  on
• 5:04
  this.
• 5:04
  You
• 5:04
  go
• 5:05
  from
• 5:06
  nobody
• 5:07
  knowing
• 5:07
  you
• 5:07
  to
• 5:08
  everybody
• 5:08
  knowing
• 5:08
  you
• 5:09
  and
• 5:09
  being.
• 5:10
  We
• 5:10
  put
• 5:10
  these
• 5:11
  artists
• 5:11
  on
• 5:11
  pedestals
• 5:12
  like
• 5:12
  they're
• 5:13
  gods
• 5:14
  and
• 5:14
  goddesses
• 5:15
  and
• 5:15
  they're
• 5:16
  just
• 5:16
  human.
• 5:16
  They
• 5:17
  shit
• 5:17
  like
• 5:18
  everybody
• 5:18
  else.
• 5:19
  People,
• 5:19
  they
• 5:20
  put
• 5:20
  on
• 5:20
  their
• 5:20
  pants
• 5:20
  like
• 5:20
  everybody
• 5:21
  else.
• 5:21
  They
• 5:21
  had
• 5:21
  them.
• 5:22
  It's
• 5:22
  a
• 5:22
  lot
• 5:22
  of
• 5:23
  pressure.
• 5:23
  And
• 5:23
  then
• 5:24
  after
• 5:24
  that,
• 5:24
  then
• 5:24
  you've
• 5:24
  got
• 5:25
  the
• 5:25
  industry
• 5:25
  pressure
• 5:25
  of
• 5:26
  like,
• 5:26
  well,
• 5:26
  are
• 5:26
  you
• 5:26
  going
• 5:26
  to
• 5:26
  do
• 5:26
  it
• 5:26
  again.
• 5:27
  Do
• 5:27
  can
• 5:27
  you
• 5:27
  sell
• 5:27
  another
• 5:28
  10
• 5:28
  million
• 5:28
  records?
• 5:28
  Are
• 5:28
  you
• 5:29
  gonna
• 5:29
  come
• 5:29
  out
• 5:29
  with
• 5:29
  another
• 5:29
  hit?
• 5:31
  So
• 5:31
  it's
• 5:31
  like
• 5:31
  there's
• 5:32
  so
• 5:32
  much
• 5:33
  psychic
• 5:34
  pressure
• 5:34
  coming
• 5:35
  from
• 5:35
  your
• 5:36
  fans,
• 5:36
  from
• 5:37
  the
• 5:37
  business,
• 5:38
  from
• 5:38
  everything.
• 5:38
  And
• 5:39
  you're
• 5:39
  like,
• 5:40
  you
• 5:40
  know,
• 5:41
  you
• 5:41
  become
• 5:42
  trapped
• 5:42
  pretty
• 5:42
  quickly.
• 5:43
  You're
• 5:43
  in
• 5:44
  this
• 5:44
  like
• 5:44
  goldfish
• 5:45
  bowl,
• 5:45
  you
• 5:45
  know,
• 5:46
  I
• 5:46
  remember
• 5:46
  like
• 5:46
  going
• 5:46
  and
• 5:47
  doing
• 5:47
  like
• 5:47
  after
• 5:47
  party
• 5:48
  gigs
• 5:48
  and
• 5:48
  it's
• 5:48
  like
• 5:49
  you're
• 5:49
  sitting
• 5:49
  there
• 5:50
  at
• 5:50
  a
• 5:50
  club
• 5:50
  and
• 5:50
  everyone's
• 5:51
  just
• 5:51
  like
• 5:51
  looking
• 5:52
  at
• 5:52
  you,
• 5:52
  you
• 5:53
  know,
• 5:53
  so
• 5:53
  it's
• 5:54
  very.
• 5:55
  It's
• 5:55
  not
• 5:55
  real
• 5:55
  life.
• 5:56
  And.
• 5:57
  And
• 5:58
  now
• 5:58
  with
• 5:58
  phones,
• 5:58
  it
• 5:58
  must
• 5:59
  be
• 5:59
  even
• 5:59
  weirder
• 6:00
  too.
• 6:00
  People
• 6:00
  just
• 6:00
  taking
• 6:01
  pictures
• 6:01
  of
• 6:01
  you
• 6:01
  and
• 6:01
  stuff.
• 6:02
  It's.
• 6:03
  It's
• 6:03
  the
• 6:03
  weirdest.
• 6:04
  Parties,
• 6:04
  planet
• 6:05
  Earth.
• 6:05
  It's
• 6:06
  just
• 6:06
  bizarre.
• 6:07
  Like
• 6:07
  we,
• 6:07
  you
• 6:07
  know,
• 6:08
  we
• 6:08
  have
• 6:09
  a
• 6:09
  cultural
• 6:11
  issue,
• 6:11
  I
• 6:12
  believe,
• 6:12
  with.
• 6:13
  With
• 6:13
  what.
• 6:13
  With
• 6:14
  what
• 6:14
  we.
• 6:14
  With
• 6:14
  what
• 6:15
  we
• 6:15
  project
• 6:16
  onto
• 6:16
  celebrity.
• 6:18
  And
• 6:18
  I
• 6:19
  think
• 6:19
  it
• 6:19
  creates
• 6:19
  a
• 6:20
  lot
• 6:20
  of
• 6:21
  mental
• 6:21
  health
• 6:21
  issues
• 6:22
  for
• 6:22
  people.
• 6:23
  And
• 6:23
  there's
• 6:24
  no
• 6:24
  support
• 6:24
  around
• 6:24
  that
• 6:25
  for
• 6:25
  sure.
• 6:27
  And
• 6:27
  you
• 6:28
  had
• 6:28
  firsthand
• 6:29
  knowledge
• 6:29
  with
• 6:30
  Alicia
• 6:31
  being
• 6:31
  so
• 6:31
  close
• 6:32
  to
• 6:32
  watching
• 6:32
  that
• 6:33
  go
• 6:33
  on.
• 6:34
  Someone
• 6:35
  I
• 6:35
  think
• 6:35
  of
• 6:36
  when
• 6:36
  we
• 6:36
  speak
• 6:36
  of
• 6:36
  the
• 6:37
  pressure
• 6:37
  is
• 6:37
  like
• 6:37
  Justin
• 6:37
  Bieber,
• 6:38
  for
• 6:38
  example.
• 6:39
  That
• 6:39
  poor
• 6:39
  gentleman
• 6:40
  was
• 6:40
  going
• 6:40
  through
• 6:41
  all
• 6:41
  of
• 6:41
  that
• 6:41
  in
• 6:42
  one
• 6:42
  of
• 6:42
  the
• 6:42
  hardest
• 6:42
  times
• 6:43
  to
• 6:43
  live
• 6:43
  as
• 6:43
  a
• 6:43
  man,
• 6:44
  just
• 6:44
  as
• 6:44
  a
• 6:44
  male.
• 6:45
  And
• 6:46
  for
• 6:46
  him,
• 6:47
  I
• 6:47
  could
• 6:47
  only
• 6:47
  imagine
• 6:48
  what
• 6:48
  that
• 6:49
  would
• 6:49
  have
• 6:49
  done
• 6:49
  to
• 6:50
  someone's.
• 6:50
  You
• 6:50
  know,
• 6:51
  mental
• 6:51
  and
• 6:51
  a
• 6:51
  baby.
• 6:52
  So
• 6:52
  I
• 6:52
  know
• 6:52
  a
• 6:52
  lot
• 6:52
  of
• 6:52
  people
• 6:53
  like
• 6:53
  to
• 6:53
  dump
• 6:53
  on
• 6:53
  that
• 6:54
  kid.
• 6:54
  Yeah,
• 6:55
  he's
• 6:56
  not
• 6:56
  developed.
• 6:56
  So.
• 6:57
  How
• 6:57
  old
• 6:57
  was
• 6:57
  he
• 6:57
  when
• 6:57
  he
• 6:57
  came
• 6:58
  on
• 6:58
  the
• 6:58
  scene?
• 6:58
  He
• 6:58
  was
• 6:58
  a
• 6:59
  child.
• 7:00
  Yeah.
• 7:01
  A
• 7:01
  baby
• 7:02
  that
• 7:02
  for
• 7:02
  some
• 7:02
  reason
• 7:03
  grown
• 7:03
  men
• 7:04
  hated
• 7:05
  with
• 7:05
  a
• 7:05
  passion.
• 7:06
  I've
• 7:06
  never
• 7:06
  seen
• 7:07
  anything
• 7:07
  like
• 7:07
  that.
• 7:07
  It
• 7:07
  was
• 7:08
  weird.
• 7:08
  Every
• 7:09
  discussion
• 7:10
  anytime
• 7:10
  if,
• 7:10
  if
• 7:11
  a
• 7:11
  man
• 7:11
  is
• 7:11
  like
• 7:12
  over
• 7:12
  35,
• 7:13
  they
• 7:14
  would
• 7:14
  hate
• 7:14
  him
• 7:15
  for
• 7:16
  like
• 7:16
  he
• 7:17
  killed
• 7:17
  their
• 7:17
  dog
• 7:17
  or
• 7:17
  something.
• 7:18
  It
• 7:18
  was
• 7:18
  so
• 7:18
  weird.
• 7:19
  Just
• 7:19
  cause
• 7:19
  it's
• 7:19
  a
• 7:19
  dog
• 7:20
  and
• 7:21
  because.
• 7:21
  It'S
• 7:21
  just
• 7:21
  again
• 7:22
  because
• 7:22
  that,
• 7:22
  those,
• 7:22
  those
• 7:23
  men
• 7:23
  are
• 7:23
  wounded
• 7:24
  and
• 7:24
  insecure
• 7:24
  in
• 7:25
  their
• 7:25
  own
• 7:25
  shit.
• 7:25
  And
• 7:25
  he's
• 7:26
  holding
• 7:26
  up
• 7:26
  a
• 7:26
  mirror
• 7:26
  and
• 7:27
  triggering
• 7:27
  that.
• 7:27
  And
• 7:28
  that's
• 7:28
  why
• 7:28
  I'm
• 7:28
  like,
• 7:28
  everybody
• 7:29
  needs
• 7:29
  to
• 7:29
  heal
• 7:29
  their
• 7:29
  shit.
• 7:30
  Because
• 7:30
  we're
• 7:30
  all
• 7:30
  out
• 7:30
  here
• 7:31
  projectile
• 7:31
  vomiting
• 7:32
  our
• 7:32
  unhealed
• 7:32
  wounds
• 7:33
  on
• 7:33
  each
• 7:33
  other.
• 7:34
  Acting
• 7:34
  self
• 7:34
  righteous,
• 7:35
  period.
• 7:37
  You're
• 7:38
  absolutely
• 7:38
  right.
• 7:39
  I'm
• 7:39
  gonna
• 7:39
  send
• 7:39
  this
• 7:39
  video.
• 7:41
  Send
• 7:41
  it?
• 7:42
  Yeah,
• 7:42
  yeah,
• 7:42
  it
• 7:43
  should
• 7:43
  send
• 7:43
  it
• 7:43
  along
• 7:44
  with
• 7:44
  a
• 7:44
  number
• 7:45
  of.
• 7:45
  Somebody
• 7:45
  who
• 7:45
  can
• 7:45
  help
• 7:46
  their
• 7:46
  asses.
• 7:47
  It's
• 7:47
  okay,
• 7:48
  we
• 7:48
  can
• 7:48
  all
• 7:48
  do
• 7:49
  it
• 7:49
  together.
• 7:49
  Just
• 7:49
  face
• 7:50
  your
• 7:50
  shit.
• 7:50
  You
• 7:51
  go
• 7:51
  through
• 7:51
  it.
• 7:52
  I
• 7:52
  promise.
• 7:54
  I
• 7:54
  have
• 7:54
  a
• 7:55
  question.
• 7:55
  I'm
• 7:56
  going
• 7:56
  to
• 7:56
  raise
• 7:56
  my
• 7:56
  hand
• 7:57
  just
• 7:57
  for
• 7:57
  the
• 7:57
  delays
• 7:58
  and
• 7:58
  stuff.
• 7:59
  You
• 8:00
  don't
• 8:00
  have
• 8:00
  to
• 8:00
  answer
• 8:00
  this.
• 8:00
  Question.
• 8:01
  So
• 8:03
  I'm
• 8:04
  still
• 8:04
  trying
• 8:04
  to
• 8:04
  understand
• 8:05
  the
• 8:05
  scope
• 8:06
  of
• 8:06
  everything
• 8:06
  that
• 8:06
  you
• 8:06
  do.
• 8:07
  But
• 8:07
  from
• 8:07
  what
• 8:07
  I
• 8:07
  understand,
• 8:08
  part
• 8:08
  of
• 8:08
  it
• 8:08
  has
• 8:08
  to
• 8:08
  do
• 8:09
  with.
• 8:11
  With
• 8:11
  you
• 8:12
  seeing
• 8:12
  things
• 8:12
  other
• 8:13
  people
• 8:13
  can't
• 8:13
  see
• 8:14
  and
• 8:14
  helping
• 8:15
  them
• 8:15
  connect
• 8:15
  with
• 8:15
  their
• 8:16
  past.
• 8:16
  Maybe.
• 8:17
  Now,
• 8:17
  here's
• 8:17
  my
• 8:18
  question.
• 8:18
  At
• 8:19
  least
• 8:19
  I
• 8:19
  believe
• 8:20
  that
• 8:20
  some
• 8:21
  people
• 8:21
  are
• 8:21
  just
• 8:22
  dicks,
• 8:22
  right?
• 8:23
  Do
• 8:23
  you
• 8:23
  ever
• 8:23
  get
• 8:24
  somebody
• 8:24
  and
• 8:24
  you
• 8:24
  just
• 8:25
  feel.
• 8:27
  The
• 8:28
  dick
• 8:28
  energy?
• 8:30
  Yeah,
• 8:30
  you
• 8:30
  just
• 8:30
  get
• 8:31
  a
• 8:31
  client
• 8:31
  who's
• 8:31
  like,
• 8:31
  I
• 8:31
  have
• 8:31
  these
• 8:32
  issues.
• 8:32
  And
• 8:32
  you
• 8:32
  just
• 8:32
  feel
• 8:33
  them
• 8:33
  and
• 8:33
  you're
• 8:33
  like,
• 8:34
  oh,
• 8:34
  he's
• 8:35
  just
• 8:35
  an
• 8:35
  asshole.
• 8:36
  Like,
• 8:36
  does
• 8:36
  that
• 8:36
  ever
• 8:36
  happen?
• 8:37
  Or
• 8:38
  you're
• 8:39
  like,
• 8:39
  I
• 8:39
  can't
• 8:39
  help
• 8:39
  you.
• 8:40
  That's
• 8:40
  just
• 8:40
  who
• 8:40
  you
• 8:40
  are.
• 8:41
  Thankfully,
• 8:42
  like,
• 8:42
  I
• 8:42
  don't
• 8:43
  get
• 8:43
  that
• 8:44
  type
• 8:44
  of.
• 8:44
  I
• 8:44
  don't
• 8:45
  like
• 8:45
  because,
• 8:45
  you
• 8:46
  know,
• 8:46
  I'm
• 8:46
  not
• 8:46
  an
• 8:46
  energetic
• 8:47
  match
• 8:47
  for
• 8:47
  that
• 8:47
  type
• 8:48
  of
• 8:48
  energy.
• 8:49
  So
• 8:50
  people
• 8:50
  aren't
• 8:51
  trying
• 8:51
  to
• 8:51
  come
• 8:51
  to
• 8:51
  me.
• 8:52
  But
• 8:53
  what
• 8:53
  I
• 8:54
  won't
• 8:55
  do
• 8:55
  is
• 8:55
  I
• 8:56
  won't.
• 8:56
  I
• 8:56
  won't
• 8:57
  spin
• 8:57
  around
• 8:58
  in
• 8:58
  a
• 8:59
  sort
• 8:59
  of
• 8:59
  circle
• 9:00
  with
• 9:00
  somebody
• 9:00
  who's
• 9:01
  really
• 9:01
  committed
• 9:03
  to
• 9:03
  their
• 9:04
  victim
• 9:04
  story.
• 9:05
  This.
• 9:06
  This
• 9:06
  keeps
• 9:07
  happening
• 9:07
  to
• 9:07
  me
• 9:07
  and
• 9:07
  these
• 9:08
  people
• 9:08
  kind
• 9:08
  of
• 9:10
  like
• 9:10
  it's
• 9:10
  a
• 9:11
  mindset
• 9:11
  game.
• 9:12
  And
• 9:12
  if
• 9:12
  you
• 9:12
  don't
• 9:12
  have
• 9:12
  the
• 9:13
  capacity
• 9:14
  to
• 9:14
  like.
• 9:14
  And
• 9:14
  I
• 9:14
  don't
• 9:15
  feel
• 9:15
  like
• 9:16
  you're
• 9:16
  really
• 9:16
  bout
• 9:17
  it
• 9:17
  with
• 9:17
  like
• 9:18
  getting
• 9:19
  up
• 9:19
  out
• 9:19
  of
• 9:19
  a
• 9:19
  situation
• 9:20
  you're
• 9:20
  in
• 9:20
  and
• 9:20
  you
• 9:20
  just
• 9:21
  are.
• 9:21
  You're
• 9:21
  just
• 9:22
  committed
• 9:23
  to
• 9:23
  your
• 9:23
  story
• 9:24
  that
• 9:24
  life
• 9:24
  is
• 9:24
  happening
• 9:25
  to
• 9:25
  you.
• 9:25
  And
• 9:26
  like,
• 9:26
  I
• 9:26
  can't
• 9:26
  help
• 9:26
  you.
• 9:27
  I
• 9:27
  can't
• 9:28
  change
• 9:28
  your
• 9:28
  mindset.
• 9:29
  You
• 9:30
  have
• 9:30
  to
• 9:30
  want
• 9:30
  it.
• 9:31
  So,
• 9:31
  like,
• 9:31
  that's
• 9:31
  the
• 9:31
  only
• 9:32
  thing
• 9:32
  I'm
• 9:32
  not.
• 9:32
  I
• 9:32
  don't.
• 9:32
  I
• 9:33
  don't.
• 9:33
  I
• 9:33
  can't.
• 9:33
  I
• 9:34
  can't
• 9:34
  really
• 9:34
  get
• 9:34
  with
• 9:35
  people
• 9:35
  who
• 9:36
  don't
• 9:36
  have,
• 9:37
  like,
• 9:38
  the
• 9:38
  energy
• 9:39
  to.
• 9:41
  Who
• 9:41
  really
• 9:42
  want
• 9:42
  to
• 9:42
  break
• 9:42
  through
• 9:42
  whatever
• 9:43
  it
• 9:43
  is
• 9:43
  they're
• 9:43
  dealing
• 9:43
  with.
• 9:44
  And
• 9:44
  I
• 9:44
  don't
• 9:44
  believe
• 9:45
  people
• 9:45
  are
• 9:45
  just
• 9:45
  dicks
• 9:46
  because
• 9:46
  they're
• 9:46
  just
• 9:46
  innately
• 9:47
  dicks.
• 9:47
  You're
• 9:47
  a
• 9:47
  dick
• 9:48
  because,
• 9:49
  you
• 9:49
  know,
• 9:50
  some
• 9:50
  shit
• 9:50
  happened
• 9:51
  to
• 9:51
  you
• 9:51
  when
• 9:51
  you
• 9:51
  were
• 9:51
  a
• 9:51
  kid
• 9:52
  and
• 9:52
  you
• 9:53
  disassociated
• 9:53
  out
• 9:54
  of
• 9:54
  your
• 9:54
  body
• 9:54
  and
• 9:54
  you
• 9:54
  weren't
• 9:55
  given
• 9:55
  the
• 9:55
  love
• 9:55
  you
• 9:55
  needed
• 9:56
  and
• 9:57
  you're
• 9:57
  projecting
• 9:57
  that
• 9:58
  on
• 9:58
  everybody
• 9:58
  else.
• 9:59
  But
• 10:00
  if
• 10:00
  you
• 10:00
  want
• 10:00
  to
• 10:00
  heal.
• 10:01
  Hear
• 10:01
  that,
• 10:01
  Anthony.
• 10:02
  I've
• 10:02
  got
• 10:02
  resources
• 10:03
  for
• 10:03
  you.
• 10:07
  Okay?
• 10:08
  So
• 10:08
  how
• 10:08
  do
• 10:08
  you
• 10:08
  begin
• 10:09
  that?
• 10:09
  How
• 10:09
  does
• 10:10
  someone
• 10:10
  begin
• 10:10
  that
• 10:10
  healing
• 10:11
  process?
• 10:12
  Is
• 10:13
  it
• 10:13
  just
• 10:13
  accepting
• 10:14
  that
• 10:14
  they
• 10:14
  are
• 10:14
  broken?
• 10:15
  And
• 10:15
  it's
• 10:15
  not
• 10:16
  even
• 10:16
  broken,
• 10:17
  it's
• 10:17
  just
• 10:18
  wounded,
• 10:19
  Right?
• 10:19
  Because
• 10:19
  it's
• 10:19
  like,
• 10:20
  at
• 10:20
  the
• 10:20
  end
• 10:20
  of
• 10:20
  the
• 10:21
  day,
• 10:21
  the
• 10:21
  truth
• 10:22
  of
• 10:22
  who
• 10:22
  we
• 10:22
  are
• 10:22
  is
• 10:22
  that
• 10:23
  we
• 10:23
  are.
• 10:24
  We
• 10:24
  already
• 10:24
  are
• 10:25
  whole.
• 10:25
  It's
• 10:25
  just
• 10:25
  that
• 10:26
  these
• 10:26
  things
• 10:27
  have
• 10:27
  happened
• 10:27
  and
• 10:27
  we've
• 10:28
  Forgotten
• 10:28
  the
• 10:29
  truth
• 10:29
  of
• 10:29
  who
• 10:29
  we
• 10:30
  are.
• 10:30
  So
• 10:30
  first,
• 10:30
  it's
• 10:31
  just
• 10:31
  like,
• 10:32
  I'm
• 10:32
  sick
• 10:32
  and
• 10:32
  tired
• 10:32
  of
• 10:33
  being
• 10:33
  sick
• 10:33
  and
• 10:33
  tired.
• 10:34
  You
• 10:34
  know
• 10:34
  what
• 10:34
  I
• 10:34
  mean?
• 10:34
  You
• 10:34
  have
• 10:34
  to
• 10:35
  just
• 10:35
  get
• 10:35
  to
• 10:35
  that
• 10:35
  point.
• 10:35
  You're
• 10:36
  like,
• 10:36
  I'm
• 10:36
  done
• 10:36
  with
• 10:37
  this.
• 10:37
  I
• 10:37
  want
• 10:38
  something
• 10:38
  different
• 10:38
  for
• 10:38
  myself.
• 10:39
  And
• 10:40
  that's
• 10:40
  usually
• 10:40
  when
• 10:41
  somebody
• 10:42
  finds
• 10:42
  me,
• 10:43
  you
• 10:43
  know
• 10:43
  what
• 10:43
  I
• 10:43
  mean?
• 10:45
  Right.
• 10:45
  Yeah.
• 10:46
  So
• 10:46
  they
• 10:47
  wouldn't
• 10:47
  be
• 10:47
  an
• 10:47
  asshole,
• 10:48
  because
• 10:48
  they're
• 10:48
  definitely
• 10:49
  trying
• 10:49
  to
• 10:49
  come
• 10:49
  to
• 10:49
  you
• 10:50
  to
• 10:50
  help
• 10:50
  because
• 10:50
  they've
• 10:51
  submitted
• 10:51
  to
• 10:52
  the
• 10:52
  idea
• 10:52
  that
• 10:52
  they
• 10:53
  need
• 10:53
  help,
• 10:53
  but
• 10:53
  they.
• 10:54
  Wanted
• 10:54
  it
• 10:54
  and
• 10:54
  they
• 10:54
  want
• 10:54
  to
• 10:55
  change.
• 10:55
  Yeah,
• 10:55
  exactly.
• 10:56
  I
• 10:56
  can't
• 10:57
  help
• 10:57
  people
• 10:57
  who
• 10:57
  don't
• 10:57
  want
• 10:57
  to
• 10:58
  change,
• 10:59
  and
• 10:59
  I
• 10:59
  have
• 10:59
  no
• 10:59
  interest
• 11:00
  in
• 11:00
  that.
• 11:00
  Yeah.
• 11:02
  One
• 11:03
  thing
• 11:03
  you
• 11:03
  had
• 11:03
  talked
• 11:03
  about
• 11:04
  was
• 11:04
  how
• 11:06
  so
• 11:06
  many
• 11:07
  artists,
• 11:07
  so
• 11:07
  many
• 11:08
  great
• 11:08
  artists
• 11:08
  write
• 11:09
  from
• 11:09
  a
• 11:09
  place
• 11:09
  of
• 11:10
  pain.
• 11:10
  Why
• 11:10
  do
• 11:11
  you
• 11:11
  think
• 11:11
  it's
• 11:11
  so
• 11:11
  much
• 11:11
  easier
• 11:12
  for
• 11:13
  artists
• 11:13
  to
• 11:13
  be
• 11:13
  able
• 11:13
  to
• 11:14
  write
• 11:14
  from
• 11:14
  darkness
• 11:15
  as
• 11:15
  opposed
• 11:15
  to.
• 11:16
  As
• 11:16
  opposed
• 11:17
  to
• 11:17
  when
• 11:17
  they're
• 11:18
  happy
• 11:18
  and
• 11:18
  feeling
• 11:19
  great?
• 11:19
  Well,
• 11:19
  I
• 11:19
  think
• 11:20
  that
• 11:20
  in
• 11:20
  general,
• 11:21
  we
• 11:21
  could
• 11:22
  all
• 11:22
  agree
• 11:23
  that
• 11:23
  the
• 11:23
  most
• 11:24
  kind
• 11:24
  of,
• 11:25
  like,
• 11:25
  growth
• 11:25
  in
• 11:26
  our
• 11:26
  lives
• 11:26
  come
• 11:27
  out
• 11:27
  of
• 11:27
  those
• 11:27
  challenging
• 11:28
  situations,
• 11:29
  Right?
• 11:29
  Like,
• 11:29
  the
• 11:30
  people
• 11:30
  that
• 11:31
  were
• 11:31
  the
• 11:31
  hardest
• 11:31
  for
• 11:31
  me
• 11:31
  to
• 11:32
  deal
• 11:32
  with
• 11:32
  that,
• 11:33
  like,
• 11:33
  I'm
• 11:33
  like,
• 11:34
  you
• 11:35
  know,
• 11:35
  or
• 11:35
  like,
• 11:35
  maybe
• 11:36
  I
• 11:36
  have,
• 11:36
  like,
• 11:36
  you
• 11:36
  were,
• 11:36
  like,
• 11:36
  an
• 11:37
  enemy
• 11:37
  or
• 11:37
  whatever.
• 11:38
  Like,
• 11:38
  at
• 11:38
  the
• 11:38
  end
• 11:38
  of
• 11:38
  the
• 11:39
  day,
• 11:39
  like,
• 11:39
  I
• 11:40
  had,
• 11:40
  like,
• 11:40
  a
• 11:40
  quantum
• 11:41
  level
• 11:41
  of
• 11:41
  growth
• 11:42
  behind
• 11:42
  my
• 11:43
  experience
• 11:43
  with
• 11:43
  that
• 11:43
  person.
• 11:44
  So
• 11:44
  there's,
• 11:45
  like,
• 11:45
  a
• 11:45
  lot
• 11:46
  to
• 11:46
  pull
• 11:46
  from
• 11:47
  in
• 11:47
  any
• 11:47
  type
• 11:48
  of
• 11:48
  storytelling.
• 11:49
  Right.
• 11:49
  Whereas
• 11:49
  if
• 11:49
  it's
• 11:49
  like.
• 11:50
  If
• 11:50
  it's,
• 11:50
  like,
• 11:51
  good
• 11:51
  all
• 11:51
  the
• 11:51
  time,
• 11:51
  you're
• 11:52
  kind
• 11:52
  of
• 11:52
  like
• 11:54
  just
• 11:54
  happy
• 11:55
  love
• 11:55
  songs
• 11:56
  or
• 11:56
  whatever,
• 11:57
  you
• 11:57
  know?
• 11:57
  And
• 11:58
  I
• 11:58
  think
• 11:58
  that
• 11:59
  we
• 11:59
  are
• 12:00
  all
• 12:00
  carrying
• 12:00
  around
• 12:01
  varying
• 12:02
  degrees
• 12:02
  of
• 12:02
  pain.
• 12:02
  And
• 12:03
  when
• 12:03
  you
• 12:03
  can
• 12:03
  hear
• 12:04
  through
• 12:04
  a
• 12:04
  song
• 12:05
  that
• 12:05
  someone
• 12:06
  understands
• 12:06
  and
• 12:06
  sees
• 12:07
  and
• 12:07
  relates
• 12:07
  to
• 12:07
  your
• 12:08
  pain,
• 12:08
  you
• 12:09
  know,
• 12:09
  I
• 12:09
  think
• 12:09
  part
• 12:10
  of
• 12:10
  the
• 12:10
  issue
• 12:10
  is
• 12:11
  we're
• 12:11
  just
• 12:11
  used
• 12:11
  to
• 12:12
  connecting
• 12:12
  to
• 12:12
  each
• 12:12
  other
• 12:13
  through
• 12:13
  pain.
• 12:14
  And
• 12:14
  that
• 12:14
  goes
• 12:14
  across
• 12:15
  the
• 12:15
  board
• 12:16
  where,
• 12:16
  like,
• 12:16
  we
• 12:16
  recognize
• 12:17
  pain
• 12:18
  bodies
• 12:18
  in
• 12:18
  each
• 12:18
  other.
• 12:19
  And
• 12:19
  so
• 12:19
  most
• 12:20
  of
• 12:20
  our
• 12:21
  culture
• 12:22
  and
• 12:22
  music
• 12:23
  and
• 12:23
  everything
• 12:23
  is
• 12:24
  built
• 12:24
  around
• 12:24
  a
• 12:25
  lot
• 12:25
  of
• 12:25
  that.
• 12:27
  And
• 12:28
  I
• 12:29
  think
• 12:29
  it's
• 12:29
  just.
• 12:29
  I
• 12:29
  think
• 12:29
  it's
• 12:30
  part
• 12:30
  of
• 12:30
  our
• 12:30
  sort
• 12:31
  of
• 12:31
  collective,
• 12:33
  like,
• 12:33
  maturing
• 12:34
  process.
• 12:34
  It's
• 12:34
  just
• 12:34
  where
• 12:35
  we
• 12:35
  are
• 12:35
  collectively.
• 12:38
  And
• 12:39
  I
• 12:39
  think.
• 12:39
  And
• 12:39
  I
• 12:40
  also
• 12:40
  think
• 12:40
  that,
• 12:41
  though,
• 12:41
  that
• 12:46
  with
• 12:46
  some
• 12:47
  artists,
• 12:47
  it's
• 12:47
  like,
• 12:48
  I've
• 12:48
  talked
• 12:48
  to
• 12:49
  certain.
• 12:51
  Like,
• 12:52
  when
• 12:52
  I
• 12:52
  sort
• 12:52
  of.
• 12:53
  I
• 12:53
  sort
• 12:53
  of
• 12:53
  kind
• 12:53
  of
• 12:53
  approached
• 12:54
  certain
• 12:54
  people
• 12:54
  in
• 12:54
  the
• 12:54
  industry,
• 12:55
  and
• 12:55
  I
• 12:55
  was
• 12:55
  like,
• 12:55
  hey,
• 12:56
  I
• 12:56
  want
• 12:56
  to
• 12:56
  do
• 12:56
  this
• 12:56
  thing,
• 12:57
  and
• 12:57
  I
• 12:57
  want
• 12:57
  to
• 12:57
  help.
• 12:58
  I
• 12:58
  want
• 12:58
  to
• 12:58
  help
• 12:58
  artists
• 12:59
  heal
• 12:59
  and
• 12:59
  stuff.
• 12:59
  And
• 13:00
  they
• 13:00
  were
• 13:00
  like,
• 13:00
  whoa,
• 13:00
  whoa,
• 13:00
  whoa.
• 13:01
  You
• 13:01
  know,
• 13:01
  you
• 13:01
  might
• 13:01
  steal
• 13:02
  the
• 13:02
  magic.
• 13:03
  You
• 13:03
  know
• 13:03
  what
• 13:03
  I
• 13:03
  mean,
• 13:04
  so
• 13:04
  there's
• 13:04
  this
• 13:05
  notion
• 13:05
  that
• 13:06
  penis
• 13:07
  comes
• 13:07
  from
• 13:07
  that
• 13:08
  place,
• 13:08
  and
• 13:09
  so
• 13:10
  it's
• 13:10
  a
• 13:10
  little.