Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Advancing Quality, Patient Flow, and Value Based Care at WellSpan Ephrata with Ericka Powell
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- 0:01This is where health care leadership comes together.
- 0:04Becker's sixteenth annual meeting brings more than 3,500
- 0:07hospital and health system executives and nearly 800
- 0:10speakers to Chicago
- 0:12April.
- 0:14This year's event includes keynote conversations with Dallas
- 0:17Cowboys legend Troy Aikman and former president George
- 0:20w Bush. For the agenda and event details,
- 0:22visit beckershospitalreview.com
- 0:25and click on the events tab in the
- 0:26upper right. We're looking forward to hosting you
- 0:29in Chicago.
- 0:31This is Laura Dierda with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:34podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by
- 0:36doctor Erica Powell, vice president of medical affairs
- 0:39at Welspun Ephrata Community Hospital. Doctor Powell, it's
- 0:42a pleasure to have you on the podcast
- 0:43today. Thank you, Laura. I am excited to
- 0:46be here and share a little bit about
- 0:48myself and WellSpan and and some of the
- 0:50things that are facing health care in 2026.
- 0:54Fantastic. Well, I I'm excited about this too.
- 0:56I mean, I think there's so much in
- 0:58health care. It's such a dynamic space, and
- 1:00so I'm looking forward to spotlighting some of
- 1:02the things you're doing. But before we dive
- 1:03in, can you tell us a little bit
- 1:04more about yourself in the hospital?
- 1:07Yeah. So I'm an emergency physician by training,
- 1:09but have been in a leadership role for
- 1:11about twenty years,
- 1:13in various positions. But my current role really
- 1:16is
- 1:17to oversee the quality and safety along with
- 1:19the dyad partner,
- 1:21at WellSpan Ephrata Community Hospital.
- 1:24WellSpan is an integrated community based health system
- 1:27that that serves Central Pennsylvania and Northern Maryland.
- 1:30We have about 23,000
- 1:32team members, eight hospitals, and a comprehensive network
- 1:35of
- 1:36ambulatory specialty and behavioral health services.
- 1:40We're really here to provide exceptional personalized care
- 1:43and inspire hope in communities.
- 1:46Our real focus is on clinical excellence and
- 1:49innovation
- 1:50with the goal of delivering
- 1:52high value health services,
- 1:54to the community.
- 1:56That's great to hear. And, you know, a
- 1:58huge, huge and important responsibility that you have
- 2:00within the community to, make sure you're having
- 2:03that access to care and continue to providing
- 2:04great outcomes. Now if you think back the
- 2:06last
- 2:07year or so, could you tell us about
- 2:09the most important initiative that you led? What
- 2:10did you do, and what were the result?
- 2:13One of the big initiatives that we led
- 2:15was around length of stay
- 2:17and really how do we align clinical quality
- 2:19and operational
- 2:21across the entire cube care division
- 2:24focusing
- 2:25on patient flow, reducing variability,
- 2:27and strengthening physician engagements. I mean, some of
- 2:30the key components to that are interdisciplinary
- 2:33rounds,
- 2:34managing care escalation pathways,
- 2:37and really improving documentation
- 2:40accuracy to support the quality and financial integrity
- 2:43of our system. And what that really has
- 2:45led to is
- 2:47reducible,
- 2:47avoidable variation
- 2:49in length of stay across multiple service lines,
- 2:52better metrics,
- 2:54in ED to,
- 2:56admission, in
- 2:58overall length of stay.
- 3:00But the real
- 3:01beauty of focusing in on this was the
- 3:03strength in collaboration
- 3:05between operations,
- 3:06nursing, and medical leadership.
- 3:09And this when you get sort of the
- 3:10whole team engaged in this, it really helped
- 3:13us to deliver
- 3:15high reliable patient centered care
- 3:18while managing our capacity
- 3:20much more effectively.
- 3:22That's helpful to understand and, you know, really
- 3:24great that you've been able to make,
- 3:27movement and measurable impact on some of those
- 3:29things. I think especially,
- 3:32having that overall length of stay be managed
- 3:34closely is critical,
- 3:36because capacity continues for many hospitals and systems
- 3:39to be constrained right now. I think, you
- 3:42know, when you were looking at,
- 3:44those interdisciplinary
- 3:45rounds, can you tell us a little bit
- 3:46more about that, what really occurs during those,
- 3:50conversations that has moved the needle in making
- 3:52a difference on some of the metrics you
- 3:54talked about?
- 3:55One of the things that we sat down
- 3:57as a health system to do is to
- 3:59put together a playbook.
- 4:01What are those best practices that are really
- 4:04going to
- 4:05help us move the needle? And by creating
- 4:08that playbook for the health system, not just
- 4:10the individual hospital I work at, we were
- 4:13really successful
- 4:14at creating standardized
- 4:16processes and strategies.
- 4:18One of those was multidisciplinary
- 4:21rounds.
- 4:22And so
- 4:23at each entity, we have a standard for
- 4:26that work
- 4:27and what it should look like. And we're
- 4:29really focused in on geometric length of stay
- 4:32and how we are addressing that for each
- 4:35patient
- 4:36in their care continuum. And by doing that
- 4:38with each patient
- 4:40at every
- 4:41one of our eight hospitals, we were really
- 4:44able to identify what are the true barriers
- 4:47to getting a patient through the system. And
- 4:49so some key opportunities came up for each
- 4:53of our hospitals that were similar, and then
- 4:55we could solve,
- 4:56to root for those barriers
- 4:59and put new,
- 5:00countermeasures in in place that help us to
- 5:03be successful. And I'll just give you,
- 5:05a quick example.
- 5:07We realized that we had some delay with
- 5:10processing
- 5:11how we use our consultants.
- 5:14And so we really worked hard to identify
- 5:18how we
- 5:19order the consultation,
- 5:21how it gets completed,
- 5:22and really streamline that streamline that documentation
- 5:25so that now we have a
- 5:27dashboard where we can sort of see how
- 5:29our consultants are engaging with our hospital teams
- 5:32in order to improve that that throughput.
- 5:36And by adding an escalation pathway, that really
- 5:38was the turbo boost
- 5:40around making sure that the people who needed
- 5:43additional resources
- 5:45from other team members were able to get
- 5:47them in the fashion.
- 5:49That's helpful to understand. Thank you so much,
- 5:51doctor Powell, for digging a little bit deeper
- 5:53there. Now looking ahead, what are some of
- 5:54your big priorities and headwinds that you're focused
- 5:56on for 2026?
- 5:59I think, like, every hospital workforce stabilization
- 6:02and optimization are going to be key.
- 6:05We need to ensure that we attract, retain,
- 6:08support clinical talent while addressing burnout and the
- 6:11complexities in clinical practice.
- 6:13I think everyone's sort of focused on
- 6:16how we can improve
- 6:19the use of technology
- 6:21to
- 6:22stabilize,
- 6:23and optimize our workforce.
- 6:25The other piece that I'm really
- 6:28interested in focusing on is value based care
- 6:31performance
- 6:31and really being able to deliver high quality
- 6:34outcomes at a lower cost using data,
- 6:37that supports care redesign. And I think between
- 6:41these two things,
- 6:42we're gonna put a lot of energy into
- 6:46optimizing both pathways,
- 6:49to get a different different product
- 6:52without losing sight of
- 6:54the patient experience. And and that always is
- 6:57first of mine
- 6:58is the patient.
- 7:00Got it. That's helpful to know. And, you
- 7:02know, I love the ability to keep focus
- 7:05on what's happening with the patient, the patient
- 7:07experience, those outcomes, and making sure they have
- 7:09quality care. And to your point in looking
- 7:11at the transition to more of the value
- 7:14based care performance, looking at ways that you
- 7:17can get the best possible outcome,
- 7:19for the patients.
- 7:20I I'm curious. How are you approaching,
- 7:23that type of of,
- 7:25transformation thinking through not only the technology that
- 7:28you'll have to to get that in place,
- 7:30but then also,
- 7:32you know, having it be part of a
- 7:34a broader,
- 7:35shift in the way that you're thinking about
- 7:37care and care models.
- 7:40One of the things if you're gonna endeavor
- 7:42to do this work is to understand what
- 7:45your data's telling you
- 7:47about your community,
- 7:49about your hospital, about your practices,
- 7:52and then really leveraging that data to different
- 7:55outcomes.
- 7:57Every hospital is going to have some unique
- 8:00barriers in order to deliver
- 8:02amazing
- 8:03care at,
- 8:06a good cost. And so
- 8:08one of the things that I feel like,
- 8:11needs to happen in this space is to
- 8:13have good data analytic tools
- 8:16to be able to understand where your unique
- 8:19barriers are. And and, again, I'm an examples
- 8:21person. So
- 8:23one of the things that we've done in
- 8:25this space is really to
- 8:28understand
- 8:29down to the DRG
- 8:31how our physicians are diagnosing certain types of
- 8:35illnesses
- 8:36and where are the opportunities
- 8:37to create standardization
- 8:40in care pathways.
- 8:42We need all of our physicians to speak
- 8:44the same language,
- 8:46to understand the impact,
- 8:48of their documentation,
- 8:50and how we leverage that to,
- 8:53better outcomes for the patient. So we've really
- 8:55worked hard to implement
- 8:58ERAS,
- 9:00COVD pathways, heart failure pathways so that everybody's
- 9:03getting the same excellent
- 9:05high quality care,
- 9:07and we're also able to manage
- 9:10those cost pressures
- 9:11that exist
- 9:12for all of us.
- 9:14That makes a lot of sense. It's helpful
- 9:16to,
- 9:17kind of get additional detail,
- 9:19around those things. I think it's something that
- 9:21so many organizations are dealing with right now
- 9:23and trying to wrap their heads around. So
- 9:26thank you for some of the your insight
- 9:28and perspective on it.
- 9:29What do you see as being the hardest
- 9:31thing you'll have to do in the coming
- 9:32year? What do you think that will be?
- 9:34I think for anybody in health care leadership,
- 9:37one of the toughest things that we do
- 9:39is balancing short term operational needs with long
- 9:42term transformation work
- 9:44that we can't afford to slow down. So
- 9:48many of us spend time
- 9:50working day to day on the small things
- 9:52that are in front of us, but there's
- 9:54a lot of real work out there and
- 9:56the pace of change
- 9:58is exceptional. And we need to be able
- 10:00to lead people through that, support them, motivate
- 10:03them,
- 10:04and make some tough decisions about priorities, which
- 10:07takes
- 10:08a lot of communication,
- 10:09clarity, and empathy.
- 10:11And so
- 10:13I would just sort of reiterate
- 10:15that it's easy to get lost in the
- 10:17day to day when you know that the
- 10:20overall
- 10:21opportunities for organizational
- 10:24growth and stability lie in that longer term
- 10:27transformation
- 10:27work.
- 10:29Well, doctor Powell, that makes a lot of
- 10:30sense. And I I know there's a lot
- 10:32going on right now in the health care
- 10:33space to both think long term, big picture
- 10:35strategically as well as getting things done on
- 10:38a daily basis. Now from your perspective, as
- 10:40you're thinking about
- 10:42leaders in the health care space, emerging leaders,
- 10:44and more, what advice would you have for
- 10:46them to really be successful as they're going
- 10:48throughout their own leadership journeys?
- 10:51Laura, that's a great question. As I did
- 10:53on what I need to get done in
- 10:552026,
- 10:56one of the things is to lead with
- 10:58clarity. People really are overwhelmed,
- 11:01and ambiguity is the enemy. I mean, we
- 11:04need to set fewer priorities,
- 11:06communicate them consistently, and reinforce them relentlessly.
- 11:10It's just getting back to the basics,
- 11:13in a very real way. So
- 11:16in other words, like, we need to go
- 11:18slower in order to move faster. I think
- 11:21sometimes the pace of change
- 11:23in health care
- 11:24is so exceptional that it just overwhelms
- 11:28our frontline
- 11:29team members,
- 11:30and leaders
- 11:32in order to get done. And then as
- 11:35I sort of weave through this, we need
- 11:37to prioritize
- 11:38patient connection in every initiative. I mean, the
- 11:41reason we went into health care,
- 11:44really was about the patient. And we need
- 11:47to ask ourselves, does it make it easier,
- 11:49safer,
- 11:50or more humane for our patients and families?
- 11:53And if it really doesn't, then we need
- 11:55to take a pause
- 11:57and wonder whether this is the right pathway
- 12:00to go down. And so
- 12:03I just would say to anybody who's
- 12:05going to be
- 12:07leading, in health care in 2026
- 12:09is we've gotta be more
- 12:12transparent about the tough stuff
- 12:15and really
- 12:16protect
- 12:17how we're doing things
- 12:19in terms of
- 12:22just being clear
- 12:24and concise and to the point until we
- 12:27build, you know, a new muscle in terms
- 12:30of our leadership,
- 12:33skill set.
- 12:34Fantastic. Now where do you see some of
- 12:36the best opportunities for organizational growth? I don't
- 12:39think leveraging digital tools and virtual care are
- 12:42gonna both help patients and clinicians.
- 12:44As we know, particularly on the physician side,
- 12:47there are multiple specialty
- 12:49gaps
- 12:50across the country in in various regions,
- 12:53and we're really gonna need to
- 12:55make work efficient for those individuals
- 12:59who are in the specialty, who wanna be
- 13:00able to help as many people as possible,
- 13:04but may not be located
- 13:06exactly nearby. So being able to start, like,
- 13:09virtual dermatology
- 13:10and virtual rheumatology, which are specialties that we
- 13:14struggle with across the country in various
- 13:17areas
- 13:18are gonna be key to
- 13:21being able to deliver those patient outcomes that
- 13:23I talked about,
- 13:26earlier. I also think that,
- 13:28we're gonna need to focus on building strategic
- 13:31partnerships,
- 13:33to improve care integration and support population health.
- 13:37As we know, the pace,
- 13:40the population is aging,
- 13:42at a significant rate, and I think we're
- 13:44going to need to
- 13:46be able to work with people outside of
- 13:49our individual health systems
- 13:51to make sure that we're able to support
- 13:53those patient outcomes
- 13:55both inside and outside of,
- 13:58our organization.
- 14:00And that whole community wellness
- 14:02kind of lens is gonna be critical to
- 14:05the success of health care.
- 14:08I love that. Doctor Powell, thank you so
- 14:10much for joining us on the podcast today.
- 14:11This has been such an informative conversation.
- 14:14You know, I I really appreciate everything that
- 14:16you're doing and and the passion that you
- 14:18bring, to health care, and I look forward
- 14:20to seeing you as well at our annual
- 14:21meeting. I know that you'll be speaking on
- 14:23a panel there, and so it'll be great
- 14:24to connect in person and and continue the
- 14:26conversation.
- 14:28That's awesome, Laura. I appreciate the opportunity to
- 14:31be able to share some of my insights
- 14:33here about what WellSpan is doing. I'm looking
- 14:37forward to connecting with my colleagues,
- 14:40at the conference in Chicago.
- 14:42It's always an exciting time to be able
- 14:44to hear and listen and learn from some
- 14:46of the best in the in the country.