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How medicine got it wrong: Heroin · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  It's time and since one.news.
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  My name is Nicole.
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  I'm going to be your host today.
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  And joining me are going to be my two favorite people, my Friday QA crew with Nurse David Wayne and Nurse Ashley Grog to continue the series that I had hoped to elaborate on on how medicine got it wrong.
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  We're going to be talking today about a very interesting subject.
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  We are going to be bringing up the origin of heroin and how it was introduced and what exactly was promised to the people when heroin became first, you know, put out for the masses, in addition to where we are now, and then throw in some AI fact checking that Dave thought would be a really good idea, and I agree to basically on the spot be able to fact-check via AI certain things that we are wanting to clarify and get more information on.
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  So, like anything, this is not medical advice.
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  This is purely us just having a good time, bringing up some actual, you know, interesting conversations on how medicine got it wrong.
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  We are currently in a uh Florida special session where next week we are going to be uh discussing things about medical freedom and the government involvement and our rights when it comes to bodily sovereignty and medical freedoms.
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  And I just think, you know, when we talk about things about how medicine got it wrong, it's important to know that at one point these topics were things that the three letter agencies and beyond have approved, said that they were safe, said that they were effective, and basically went along, making everyone think that this was the approved and tried and true, tested and trialed way to be able to present new products out to communities and then in due time find out that it is not in fact what they thought it was.
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  And these are topics that I think are important that people hear so that we do not forget that once upon a time, you know, we were told one thing and it turns out there's another.
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  But before we get started on discussing all things heroin, uh, I want to make sure that I give the opportunity to nurse David Wayne to kind of give a little bit of uh information about himself.
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  If this is your first time joining us.
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  Hello, my name is David Wayne.
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  I'm a nurse with a background in hospital psychiatry.
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  In that role, I started to learn about pharma scandals around antidepressants, uh antipsychotic medications, that sort of thing.
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  I learned about VIOX and my basically entire career in healthcare has been in the shadow of the opioid epidemic, beginning when I was a first responder, when I would respond to overdose deaths and then working in a very, very busy pharmacy filling many, many prescriptions for oxycontin.
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  So this topic is near and dear to my heart.
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  And we love you for it because again, uh Dave is pretty incredible when it comes to all things, deep diving into magic math and data and really the origin of how things kind of started and calling it out for what it is.
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  So super excited and definitely had him in mind when I was thinking about this topic as well.
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  And again, my other sidekick, my twin sister from another mystery, um, Ashley, go ahead and let them know about you.
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  Well, thank you.
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  Thank you.
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  Um, yeah, like Nicole said, we're basically twins, and I've been a nurse for about 20 years, primarily in the cardiac field when I worked in the hospital.
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  Left just hit my 10-year anniversary of being out of the hospital, worked in insurance, all the things, and unfortunately, kind of disenchanted by Western medicine.
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  And so I moved into a functional role, and now I'm you know, work to advocate for people's right to refuse vaccination.
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  Also the author of Resuscitating Nursing, hoping to bring morals and ethics and uh resuscitate our profession.
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  And we love you for it.
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  Again, Ashley is a fierce warrior when it comes to all things medical freedom and really putting it out there that people have the right to choose, um, whatever that may look like.
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  And so I love her for that.
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  And for those of you that don't know, I go by nurse Nicole.
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  I've also been a nurse in the cardiac field of nursing predominantly for about 20 years since the pandemic, uh, absolutely ruined me inside out.
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  I decided uh that I was going to take that pain and all the other things that came with it and put it for good.
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  And I advocate heavily as an ally for the vaccine-injured community and bereaved, and also work on a local and state level when it comes to exercising your right to choose and to know uh what your rights are.
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  So, with that being said, we're gonna dive right in.
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  Uh, heroin is a very unique uh you know drug of choice that was brought in by you know, uh during the 19th century, and one of the topics that a long time ago I did a series on for the American frontline nurses, and I wanted to revisit it because again, we go through these ebb and flow, these cycles where different things, products, medications are put out uh and told to us that they are safe and effective, and they become tried and true for so long until they're not.
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  And a lot of times, unfortunately, by the time it's found that there is something very wrong, more people have unfortunately been harmed or unalived, if you will.
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  And so heroin is no uh stranger to this.
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  Again, this was something that was initially marketed as safe and was put out as a non-addictive product that we now know completely is not the case.
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  And so I wanted to give Dave, if Dave's able to feel comfortable, kind of giving the origin, if you will, or a little bit of the background, the fundamentals of heroin, uh, so that we can build off that and then expand moving forward on where we are now.
• 6:28
  Oh man, you're putting me on the spot.
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  So I mean, I know that these days it's a schedule one narcotic, meaning that it's not legal in any form.
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  Uh, back in the day it was put in a bunch of products, and like you said, they called it safe and effective.
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  These are probably the same days that they were putting lots of mercury in tinctures marketed towards children for whatever was ailing your child.
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  So, yeah, not a great track record in terms of uh in terms of being correct when calling things uh safe and effective.
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  But um use of opium goes back.
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  But um use of opium goes back, I mean long, long, long time.
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  I mean, long, long, long time.
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  Um can I tag in someone else at this point?
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  Um I'll I'll tag can I tag in someone else at this point?
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  Let's talk about Ashley.
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  Ashley.
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  Let's talk in Ashley.
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  Let's talk in Ashley.
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  So I don't know a whole lot about heroin.
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  So I don't know a whole lot about heroin.
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  I've never gotten really big into learning about drugs.
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  I've never gotten really big into learning about drugs, it's just never been my thing.
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  It's just never been my thing.
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  Um, but heroin is interesting because you hear about the uh like what late 1800s and then early 1900s when legitimately they were like, oh, heroin treats your cough.
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  Um, but heroin is interesting because you hear about the uh like what late 1800s and then early 1900s when legitimately they were like, oh, heroin treats your cough.
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  Let's give it over the counter.
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  Um, and and this is I mean, it comes from a plant, right?
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  And so, in my belief, God gave us plants for medicine, and so I do believe that this could be a very potent medicine when used appropriately, but like everything else when used in the wrong way becomes very deadly.
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  But you see, in that like early 1900s, late 1800s, how this was just like passed around.
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  I'm sure there was rampant addiction.
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  It makes me wonder how many people, you know, were injured in the old sweatshops in part due to poor working conditions, but also because of the use of heroin, the widespread use of heroin.
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  But one of the most interesting things about this is do you know the company that promoted heroin use widely?
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  Do you know who it was?
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  I don't.
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  Dave, come on, you know this answer.
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  I'm gonna telepathically.
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  I mean, I'll say Pfizer, maybe.
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  Fair.
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  Uh yeah, I'm gonna hair.
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  I mean, like, look at their track record.
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  Bear is absolutely, and somebody maybe fact check me on that, but I am almost certain that it was bear starting out early on, and we look at the history of the company of bear and their involvement with World War II and just all the things, it's absolutely wild.
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  And now it's glyphosate with bare now, they're the ones who uh own the patent on glyphosates, and they're getting uh all these states, including Republican states, to just like vaccines remove any liability that they might have for the use of glyphosate.
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  So yeah, bear big time, big time uh bad guys out there.
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  Isn't there a bill currently federally for glyphosate um being pushed through?
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  I I don't think this is just that the meet next week in DC for the um Supreme Court to rule on the pesticides uh and how that's gonna look for on a federal level.
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  And so you have a lot of like moms, moms across America, glyphosate girl, and others who are showing up uh with others in solidarity to to push on that federal level.
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  Does moms across America's insane?
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  Does moms across America have a call to action out, like calling um I believe so, yes.
• 9:56
  Okay, yes.
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  It's been a thing right now that they've been trying to push, and I think the the date time and scheduling of the Supreme Court putting this out was kind of the issue, trying to narrow it down and get things moving.
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  And so they've had the call to action to obviously you know, write and call but also show uh in numbers, which is obviously very hard for a lot of people to travel to DC, but yes.
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  So let's take us let's take a step back just for those who don't normally listen to us.
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  We always talk about the act, we don't always, but a lot of times we talk about the act of 1986, which you know recognizes that vaccines are unavoidably unsafe.
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  So even if the manufacturer does everything right, even if the doctors and those transporting the vaccines do everything right, there will always be a certain population that will incur injury, point blank.
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  And so they removed liability or they shielded liability from the manufacturers so that way if something happens to you or your child, you have to first sue the head of HHS.
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  And so it makes it really difficult to get justice because you have to prove that these products caused your problem, and there are no studies done to show that.
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  They're epidemiological, you know, overviews.
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  And so when we look at this, you know, vaccines are used across the entire population as you're an infant before you really have time to develop 20, what, 25, 26 doses before the fat the the first year of life or at the first year of life.
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  And and when we think about glyphosate, glyphosate is a um pesticide that is sprayed on farmland, or is it an herbicide or pesticide?
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  Why am I blanking on that right now?
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  It's an herbicide.
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  Herbicide.
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  Okay.
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  It's herbicide sprayed on all um well, I should clarify, it's not just an herbicide, they also use it uh right before harvest as a desiccant.
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  Yeah.
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  So it's both an herbicide and a desiccant.
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  And its use is a desiccant is what's really extremely problematic because this is right before it's harvested to be put in your food.
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  They're dousing it with with this stuff, and that that's the real problem with it.
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  And the point of the desiccant is to kill the wheat so that way they can harvest it quicker.
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  There's less chance of mold and all of these.
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  There's still a lot of mold, let me tell you.
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  Um, but there's less chance of mold and rot and things like that, so they can pull out of the fields.
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  Well, the problem with that is it goes into the water.
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  And then guess what?
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  We've got it in breast milk and you know, uh everything else, and so it's transferring through the body, our bodies are designed to protect those babies, and it's a real huge issue.
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  So we're a little off track on the whole uh heroin, but it's it just shows this pattern.
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  I mean, it does.
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  No, it's a good point because again, there are a lot of opposing sides that will say glyphosate has its place, that it's there for a reason, that there's good things about it, and that what we keep hearing over and over again that to completely remove it from the system is going to collapse the farming industry and their take on how this looks uh from the standpoint of what it does benefit-wise.
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  I'm using air quotes, and so it ties into that, right?
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  Because again, the government is coming in and they're backing big pharma.
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  They are basically saying that it's safe and effective.
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  Yet there's tons of cases of people that have had what is it, non-Hodgkins lymphoma.
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  There's people that have had health issues and have passed from the accumulation of glyphosate being uh, you know, working with it, etc.
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  And like Roundup and things that it's it's associated with.
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  And so it does it does track, you know, and I think it's important that people understand this.
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  Is why I wanted to have this series of how medicine got it wrong, because it does expand into multiple categories of things that we're constantly told are safe and effective, and then we find out it's not, you know.
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  So to loop it back in, you know, one of the things that I know I put Dave on the spot for that I'm looking at the Goobles for, uh basically is that heroin is a highly addictive opioid that was processed from morphine.
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  So a lot of people did not know that it is uh a derivative, if you will, processed from morphine, and that it was a natural substance that was extracted from the seed pod of certain opium hoppy plants, which before the show uh we were discussing kind of like where it came from, and I'm reading more in the Southwest Asia section, uh, Afghanistan is the largest supplier of opium, which is a significant amount of heroin for European and Russian markets.
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  That was extracted from the seed pod of certain opium poppy plants, which before the show, uh, we were discussing kind of like where it came from.
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  And I'm reading more in the Southwest Asia section, uh, Afghanistan is the largest supplier of opium, which is a significant amount of heroin for European and Russian markets.
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  And so your Afghanistan and Pakistan are seen as some of the highest suppliers of opium.
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  And so Afghanistan and Pakistan are seen as some of the highest suppliers of opium.
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  And so, with the issues that we've had with open borders, and one of the things that Ashley mentioned uh that we can dive into in just a second uh about Operation Paperclip, she mentioned, uh, but also understanding how this works worldwide, because not only are they the supplier, the major supplier, you also have Mexico and Colombia, which are also major suppliers, with Mexico being the primary source for heroin in the United States west of the Mississippi.
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  Again, you can fact check me.
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  Uh, we're doing the goobles as we go along.
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  I I I want to bust in with the fact check right here.
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  Let's do it.
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  Well, you you you brought up Afghanistan, and this is really interesting.
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  You know, when we think of Afghanistan, I think a lot of us think about the Taliban.
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  We think about 9-11, maybe, we think about terrorists, and of course, we think of the Taliban as bad guys, but uh do you know, like in terms of Afghanistan and uh poppy production, opium production, heroin, that sort of thing.
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  Um when did that start and when did that end?
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  Because it's it might not be what you think.
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  So back in 2000, Taliban's in control of Afghanistan, opium production, poppy production dropped to zero.
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  They didn't allow it.
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  It bounced back, and they became the number one producer in the world under the under the United States after the US invaded Afghanistan.
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  That's when they jumped from zero production to the biggest producer in the world.
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  And there are a variety of documentaries out there where this is brought up where you can see US Marines patrolling and guarding the poppy fields in Afghanistan.
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  Uh, there's one in 2012 from PBS Frontline called Opium Brides.
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  There's one uh from the 2010s from 60 Minutes Australia called Inside Afghanistan's Blooming Opium Trade.
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  And um, what what happened?
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  What happened after Biden's completely catastrophic withdrawal from Afghanistan?
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  The Taliban took over.
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  They took over billions of dollars of the the US military equipment that we left behind, and they shut down the opium trade there.
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  They they shut down the poppy fields.
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  It's dropped by 95% at this point.
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  So sometimes it's not as clear as you might think who the good guys are and and who the bad guys are.
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  Well, yeah.
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  So when I brought up Nicole, do you have anything else before I go into Operation Paperclip?
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  Okay.
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  So it's funny that Dave says that, which I did not, I did not know that.
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  Um because you look at Bear, the company, and their involvement with World War II.
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  The government wants overlords want a docile, compliant, dependent population.
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  Because when you are docile, dependent, and you know, incapacitated being dependent, you're gonna do what they say.
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  You're gonna do what they want.
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  It's absolutely mind blowing to me.
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  So those of you who don't know what Operation Paperclip is is after I believe it was after the Nuremberg trials, all of these German scientists who were working under the Nazis were then can do we say supposedly, do we say um allegedly?
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  I mean, is that is this an allegedly thing at this point, or do we just call it like fact?
• 17:55
  I don't know.
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  But these these scientists were brought over and installed into our government scientific bodies and agencies across the board.
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  And so you have these people who are okay with doing, you know, human testing and all sorts of nasty things in concentration camps, and you're putting them in these roles, and we wonder why we have this continued vein of um abuse.
• 18:22
  Uh, I don't know what else we want to call it, but if you look at this history, it's absolutely insane to see the way that this is all woven in, not just you know, with the bad guys or the enemies, and I'm doing air quotes for those of you on the outside, whether it be Afghanistan, whether it be Mexico, whether it be China, whether it be Russia or any other bad guy that you want to label, how much of this is at the hands of our own government or a very like the pharmaceutical industry, a very small group of people at the very top who are just kind of like, well, we're gonna make this an issue.
• 18:57
  We're gonna keep these people dependent, we're gonna make them dependent on our drugs, limit their resources so that way we can kind of make them do what we want, or if you're Bill Gates, just kill off a bunch of them.
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  Yeah, go ahead, Dave.
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  Well, it's not just Operation Paperclip either.
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  Back in the 1950s, there was Operation Artichoke, and one of the things they were looking at that's touched on prior episodes was ways to keep a population docile, like you said.
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  This was of incredible interest to the US and to Russia during the Cold War.
• 19:31
  We were both looking for ways to use things like mosquitoes and ticks to harm foreign populations and and give them kind of um chronic illnesses that would make them uh less capable fighting force.
• 19:43
  And a lot of people think that that's where Lyme's disease came from from the experiments that the US was doing on Plum Island and all these things, all these, you know, they sound incredibly they sound incredibly conspiratorial.
• 19:56
  But please, you know, like if this is your first time hearing about these things, plug them into your favorite AI ask it about whistleblower documents and unsealed and unclassified documents.
• 20:07
  Um it was uh Project Artichoke that turned into uh the MKUltra program that a lot of people uh have heard about.
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  So, yeah, when we start talking about these very, very, very modern problems like glyphosate and the immunity and and things like that, you start pulling the threads, these problems go back decades and decades, and a lot of the a lot of the same names and same themes keep coming up over and over and over.
• 20:32
  Yeah, and I think it's really important that we bring these things up because it does go hand in hand.
• 20:37
  I think that there's a lot more of these subjects that can be used in a way for how medicine got it wrong, MK Ultra is one that I wanted to address at some point as well in a different series or in the series, and you know, to elaborate on Operation Artichoke and knowing that it was a CIA mind control product that was basically used to investigate how drugs, hypnosis, and isolation uh can break the human spirit down, and knowing that something like heroin could be introduced and said to be safe and not uh addictive, and then know what it ended up doing to individuals who are part of this, it kind of makes you wonder if that was part of the whole point of introducing heroin because what are some of the things in either one of you, if you want to look it up really.
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  How drugs, hypnosis, and isolation uh can break the human spirit down, and knowing that something like heroin could be introduced and said to be safe and not uh addictive, and then know what it ended up doing to individuals who are part of this, it kind of makes you wonder if that was part of the whole point of introducing heroin because what are some of the things in either one of you, if you want to look it up really quickly, but what are some of the things that you know heroin does to someone?
• 21:34
  You know, if we're introducing it saying that it's helping to heal, again, I'm using air quotes, and we've seen articles and different things, pictures where it was put in, you know, cough syrup and used for other ailments, you know, what it actually ended up doing to individuals.
• 21:51
  How did we know that this was no longer something that was safe and effective?
• 21:55
  What is heroin known for to cause um in individuals who ended up taking it?
• 22:01
  Does anybody want to grab that?
• 22:03
  I mean, I know it's causes respiratory depression.
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  That's what makes it so dangerous and such a uh risk of um for overdose deaths, and it's certainly been a scourge during the um um opioid pandemic, you know, that that relates into oxycontin because a lot of people, when they got hooked to oxycontin, and when they could no longer get a legitimate prescription for oxycontin, they turned to heroin.
• 22:27
  Heroin um really fell out of favor for a long time in the US until the oxycontin scandal and the oxycontin pandemic fueled by Purdue happened, and then all of a sudden heroin made this this huge comeback, and a lot of um a lot of the deaths that are associated with oxycontin were actually heroin overdoses, but the addiction originated with oxycottin.
• 22:50
  And now more recently it's um it's fentanyl, which is you know incredibly dangerous.
• 22:56
  But I I would say it's far more dangerous than heroin, though obviously both of them not ideal.
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  I I think part of this is rebranding.
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  Because if you if you look back, you have heroin used in the late 1800s, early 1900s, and they actually have soldiers' disease, which are which is morphine addiction.
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  And so that's like 1906.
• 23:19
  It it became widely known, and they accepted that this was a problem, and they they faded it out, which is interesting because there's the Harrison Narcotic Drug Act of 1944, that's weird to say, um, to restrict distribution.
• 23:35
  And so this goes back over a century.
• 23:39
  I I mean, if we really heroin is made from morphine.
• 23:44
  Heroin was supposed to be the safe replacement for morphine.
• 23:48
  People who were addicted to morphine were supposed to be safely tapered off of it and have their addiction eased by heroin.
• 23:56
  So it's like, yeah, it's you go back 100 years, and that's like the exact same themes are playing out now, except except now the names are oxycant and hydrocodone and morphine and fentanyl and heroin again.
• 24:09
  So I don't know, I mean, take this with a grain of salt, but uh Google here says there it was called the other prohibition.
• 24:17
  And it it said in 1924, New York police um report estimated that 94% of crimes were committed by heroin addicts, and they were restricting it and preventing it.
• 24:29
  Now, take that with a grain of salt.
• 24:30
  Were they just saying that they were heroin addicts?
• 24:32
  Were they really heroin addicts?
• 24:33
  Like, how is this information being put together?
• 24:36
  But when you look at it, uh people that I have known that have been addicted to opiates, they do get violent when they don't have their fix.
• 24:46
  When they start to come off, they will do anything to get it.
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  And if you're standing in their way, they're gonna go through you.
• 24:53
  And and that was that's I mean unfortunately, our family has struggled with addiction.
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  And so they will steal.
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  I've known people who have held families at gunpoint, like it gets a little crazy.
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  So I don't doubt that that was a huge thing.
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  And and again, rebranding and misleading, oh, this is something different, it's safer, it's better, it's safe and effective.
• 25:16
  There's no evidence of harm over and over and over again.
• 25:21
  And, you know, just before we go to a quick break, it just goes to show that when you introduce something like this and you push it out and say that it's safe and effective and let it become kind of a mainstream uh drug of choice, uh, because like Dave said, it was supposed to be an alternate uh to morphine, you know, safer, if you will, or uh a little bit easier to use with less dependent tendencies, we find out that it really did affect individuals altering their brain chemistry, making these individuals with seemingly more mental health issues because of depression and anxiety and personality disorders or changes because this is chemically altering their brain and making them feel, you know, uh impulsive or that they have no other way to survive if they can't get their next quick fix.
• 26:11
  And this is creating, like we've mentioned, a dependent society.
• 26:15
  So after we come back from the break, we'll elaborate a little bit more, kind of closing the gap on more things related to heroin and how you know medicine got it wrong, but also too the importance of you know information out there, the AI portion of it, fact-checking, because I think it's a great topic to continue on in this episode when it comes to how we're getting our information, where we're getting our information.
• 26:40
  And so, again, for those of you guys uh that are following Monday through Friday, the nurses report is on at 10 a.m.
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  Eastern.
• 26:47
  Uh, we'll come back right after the break.
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• 28:52
  Today I'm your host, Nurse Nicole.
• 28:54
  I'm one of your Friday QA nurses, and joining me today is my normal QA crew, Nurse David Wayne and Nurse Ashley Grog.
• 29:02
  Before the break, we were discussing another topic on a series that I was hoping to do on how medicine got it wrong.
• 29:10
  And for today's topic, it was heroin, the origin of heroin, how it was introduced as a safe and effective and non uh dependent or um, you know, what's the word I'm looking for, guys?
• 29:24
  Uh non depend uh non-addiction form.
• 29:27
  Thank you.
• 29:27
  Non-addictive, thank you.
• 29:29
  Uh medication that we find out is not the case, and currently, as it stands, is banned in all states uh because of of what it does and how it alters the brain.
• 29:40
  And so we wanted just to kind of continue on with the heroin uh, you know, theme of what it looks like when individuals got looped into, you know, becoming hooked on this, what it did to them as a person, and kind of the phasing out.
• 29:56
  If we want to try to look and see at what point did they start realizing that this was causing more harm and making it to where this was no longer going to be offered, this was no longer going to be pushed as safe and effective.
• 30:10
  Um, does anybody want to grab at that so we can kind of show, you know, we said the late 1800s, early 1900s is kind of when it was introduced, and you know, the origin is mostly I read from Afghanistan and Pakistan.
• 30:24
  Uh, and then of course the major suppliers also being Mexico and Colombia, but kind of where we're at now and how it's being looked at from the not so safe and effective standpoint.
• 30:37
  Well, it was 1924 that the US banned it for medical use.
• 30:41
  So there are still some like incredibly powerful narcotics that that uh are still available in hospitals for medical use.
• 30:50
  I mean things like morphine uh stuff like that.
• 30:52
  But um, 1924 they decided heroin was was going to be illegal uh across the entire country.
• 31:01
  You you brought up the CIA, so I I kinda wanna I kind of want to I mean, okay.
• 31:06
  Let's do it.
• 31:07
  All right.
• 31:08
  So you guys might be too young for this, but have you heard about the Iran Contra scandal?
• 31:13
  I mean, Iran's in the news, we're talking about heroin, so I feel like we need to talk about this a little bit.
• 31:18
  I am not familiar with it.
• 31:21
  All right, so back in the 80s, uh, the US uh CIA was involved in selling guns to Iran, and they were doing it uh without congressional oversight, they were doing it secretly, they got busted, they were also involved in moving copious amounts of drugs.
• 31:40
  They were avoiding congressional oversight by having a black budget.
• 31:46
  They had all sorts of money that they had obtained through the sales of drugs and weapons, and because it wasn't taxpayer money, they were using it to fund secret programs.
• 31:57
  So that's that's the heart of the Iran Contra scandal, and just how deep it goes is a topic of controversy.
• 32:04
  So one of the directions that we could go with that controversy is to talk about Jeffrey Epstein.
• 32:10
  Uh so back in the late 1970s, um, one of the CIA directors at the time was George Herbert Walker Bush.
• 32:19
  And it was the late 1970s that this physics teacher at a prep school named Jeffrey Epstein was all of a sudden within a couple years moving around billions of dollars on Wall Street.
• 32:31
  Now, when you are running an intelligence agency and you need to move around incredible amounts of illegal cash, you need a guy who's willing to do that for you, and that seems to be what one of Jeffrey Epstein's functions was.
• 32:46
  He wasn't merely a child sex trafficker for the rich, famous, powerful, and influential.
• 32:52
  Like he he got his start long before that, moving around huge sums of money.
• 32:56
  Everybody kind of acknowledges that he seems to be tied to a multitude of different intelligence services, including those of the United States and foreign countries like the UK and Israel.
• 33:09
  So, you know, you might wonder why nurses like are so interested in politics and and these scandals, and it's because you can't get away from it.
• 33:18
  There's there's all this incredible overlap and and all this um all this profound corruption.
• 33:24
  Um, to bring it forward to uh another direction we could go with this.
• 33:28
  Um, there was a Tom Cruise movie called American Maid that came out in like I don't know, what do you guys know?
• 33:35
  2010, 2015, something like that.
• 33:38
  Um he was portraying this drug smuggler who was flying huge amounts of drugs across the border into the into the US from from South America, and a lot of people think that he was also working for the CIA.
• 33:52
  He he definitely turned into a DEA informant.
• 33:55
  He died under some pretty suspicious circumstances, but over and over again we see this theme that huh, it seems like our intelligence agencies are up to some pretty shady, shady stuff.
• 34:07
  Um, all right, I'll I'll tap out there and let some what do you guys weigh in?
• 34:11
  Well, first of all, I totally am proud of you because I did not think you were gonna say stuff.
• 34:16
  Um you know, it's funny, it's not funny, it's it's ironic, it's interesting.
• 34:22
  When you think about what I think it was Pam Bondi said about Jeffrey Epstein, if we prosecute him, or if if we release the files, it's gonna take everything down.
• 34:34
  And that is so the truth.
• 34:36
  You know, you see this man with that amount of power and control and ability to blackmail people to insane depths with the sounds of the money shuffling that he was doing.
• 34:52
  You're taking taxpayer dollar funded, you know, arms, weapons, whatever, selling it, pulling that money, and then turning around and doing what with it?
• 35:00
  And then turning around and doing what with it?
• 35:03
  You know, and so the power that that gave Jeffrey Epstein is insane.
• 35:03
  You know, and so the power that that gave Jeffrey Epstein is insane.
• 35:10
  Which I think when people get that amount of power, they we talk about heroin, right?
• 35:10
  Which I think when people get that amount of power, they we talk about heroin, right?
• 35:15
  And the dopamine release.
• 35:15
  And the dopamine release, he's looking for that next hit of dopamine.
• 35:17
  He's looking for that next hit of dopamine, and I think that if he wasn't a deviant before, that could certainly drive somebody how what what level can I get away with?
• 35:19
  And I think that if he wasn't a deviant before, that could certainly drive somebody how what what level can I get away with?
• 35:27
  How far can I push this envelope?
• 35:27
  How far can I push this envelope?
• 35:30
  And then how many of these idiots can I pull along with me?
• 35:34
  And is it a challenge in a game to pull all of these quote powerful people?
• 35:39
  Because then you just continue burying them with blackmail, and you can get away with absolutely everything.
• 35:46
  And he probably felt like a puppet master, just you know, pulling everybody's strings and and and doing whatever the heck he wanted.
• 35:53
  I mean, absolutely wild to think about this.
• 35:56
  Well, there are uh definitely puppet masters out there.
• 36:00
  Do you know what uh George H.W.
• 36:02
  Bush's nickname is to a lot of people?
• 36:04
  It's Poppy Bush.
• 36:06
  And when I heard that, I thought for a long time that's because he's George W.
• 36:11
  Bush's dad.
• 36:12
  But Poppy Bush, Poppy Bush, hmm, what topic are we talking about here?
• 36:17
  So he went on to be, you know, head of the he was head of the CIA at around the same time, Jeffrey Epstein was all of a sudden involved in um what looks like money laundering for intelligence agencies.
• 36:29
  Then he was vice president during the time of the Iran Contra scandal, and then he went on to become president, and he was actually president when the events of that Tom Cruise movie were happening, American made.
• 36:42
  It was about this pilot named Barry Seal who was running the drugs, and where was he dropping them?
• 36:47
  He was dropping them near Bill Clinton's hometown in Arkansas.
• 36:52
  Huh?
• 36:53
  Huh.
• 36:54
  Wow.
• 36:54
  Funny how all these things just keep connecting.
• 36:58
  Allegedly.
• 36:58
  Allegedly.
• 36:59
  I'm I'm making no accusations here.
• 37:01
  I'll just throw out another allegedly.
• 37:06
  Yeah, so it took a wild turn, you know, but as Dave said, as Dave said, it all kind of intertwines, and you kind of have to sit back and we're we're we're laughing, but we're it's obviously a very serious topic, and it is something that you know we keep seeing a trend on when if you follow the money, you follow the key players, you end up finding exactly what you may have been questioning the whole time because uh again, uh the way that everything is woven into one another is quite telling.
• 37:40
  The time frames are extremely uh evident, and uh yeah, I didn't think I totally forgot about the George W.
• 37:47
  Bush thing and and how he was known for Poppy, his wife used it.
• 37:53
  I I I read that a long time ago, and basically where he was in the scheme of becoming president, and I think it was after the cold war and some other stuff, but again, I where do we I don't even know where are we going from here on this side?
• 38:08
  So you know if you look too, I mean, so you have Poppy, and then you have Sonny, I don't know, the junior, uh, that comes in, and where did he take us?
• 38:18
  I mean, uh really he took us into Afghanistan and he reopened the the opium trade out of Afghanistan.
• 38:27
  I mean, not just a little bit either, like profound amounts, and that wasn't happening under the Taliban, and it's not happening now that the Taliban's back in power there.
• 38:38
  It's it really is insane.
• 38:40
  I just want to point out real quick, because the the irony and insanity, I guess, of all of this is really hitting me here because we are conservatives, we are conservatives, might even have gone so far as to call ourselves Republicans, and here we are criticizing Republicans just as much as we are Democrats, and I think that this is one of the things that is happening right now, and I'm so thankful that I get to watch this unfold, but we're starting to see that it's not you know, this party's bad, this party's good.
• 39:19
  The people at the top, they're all pretty rotten fools, and they get duped into these things, and all of this division is created to keep us separate because if we really knew and understand all of these things in mass, would more people stand up and fight back and say enough is enough?
• 39:40
  I I mean, in all reality, because people are waking up at like breakneck speed right now, they're seeing all these quote conspiracy theories.
• 39:49
  Ten years ago, you talked about art operation paperclip or artichoke or MK Ultra and you were massively insane.
• 39:58
  Like I remember talking about these things and people looking at me like I had three heads, and now I'm like, holy cow, I can talk about this with my friends.
• 40:05
  And it it's mind-blowing.
• 40:08
  So when we think about this, and when we have the opportunity, we were just having this discussion at dinner um with the kids.
• 40:16
  How people are gonna make not this heroin discussion, but um, people are gonna make their own decisions, and it's it's about having conversation and discourse.
• 40:26
  Politics wouldn't be so bad if it it wasn't everybody pitted against each other.
• 40:33
  You have to respect the choices that other people make, but also not be afraid to have the tough conversations and say, hey, I really don't agree with that.
• 40:42
  This is not something that I want to do with my life, you know.
• 40:46
  And and being able to do that in a civil manner is something we're so lacking, looking less at which party you belong to and more about where do your morals lie.
• 40:58
  Um, because I I think we're closer on some of those things than those of us that are in the middle.
• 41:05
  Well, yeah, I mean, and that's that's another thing.
• 41:07
  Like we used to be able to have civil conversations, we used to be able to disagree, bring up topics that seemed absolutely like out of pocket to be able to elaborate more on them, and people have a genuine you know, interest and wanting to go back and forth and learn, like you said, educate themselves and be like, oh, I didn't know that, you know.
• 41:27
  But you know, to kind of land landed a little bit and fly back to the heroin world.
• 41:32
  I was, you know, going off of what Dave said, or maybe it was you actually about when George W.
• 41:37
  Bush was actually in presidency and kind of when everything started to kick back up into the opium trade, which was in the 90s, 1990s is what it's saying, uh, particularly in Afghanistan, which became again the world's leading producer.
• 41:54
  Production rose at that time from 1600 metric tons in 1990 to 4600 metric tons in 1999, and that the Taliban seizing power in the night 1996 tax this industry as a primary income source before it's surprise ban in 2000.
• 42:00
  In 1990 to 4600 metric tons in 1999.
• 42:08
  And that the Taliban seizing power in the night 1996 tax this industry as a primary income source before it's surprise ban in 2000.
• 42:21
  So interesting, right?
• 42:21
  So interesting, right?
• 42:23
  So can we do it?
• 42:23
  So can we maybe take a stab at that?
• 42:25
  Maybe we want to take a stab at that because I feel like the timelines are a little what do you think?
• 42:26
  Because I feel like the timelines are a little.
• 42:28
  What do you think?
• 42:29
  I
• 42:29
  I mean to take an industry that was so incredibly profitable for them and for them to ban it, you know.
• 42:40
  Again, it like it's like, okay, who are the good guys and who are the bad guys here?
• 42:44
  It's not always quite so black and white because you look at this country.
• 42:48
  If there is an industry that is that profitable, it's not getting banned, it's getting immunity from liability.
• 42:57
  And it and it even goes as far to say that uh in July of 2000, uh learning to gain international recognition and to deal with domestic addiction that the Taliban enforced a strict ban on poppy farming, reducing the cultivation in their territory by 99% just be just before the 2001 invasion.
• 43:24
  Odd timing, right?
• 43:26
  Yeah, odd timing.
• 43:27
  Right.
• 43:27
  And so, you know, at this point, it just goes to show how much of an impact uh these areas had.
• 43:35
  And so at this point, you know, uh one of the things that maybe we can elaborate on, you know, briefly, is how this still plays a role today.
• 43:44
  Go ahead, Ashley.
• 43:46
  Let's just be clear for a second.
• 43:48
  None of us are saying that the Taliban are great people.
• 43:52
  No, definitely not.
• 43:54
  We are just saying, look at the timelines and consider all the things.
• 44:00
  Because as Nicole says all the time, two things can be true at the same same time.
• 44:06
  You know, uh it's it's less about the Taliban than it is about our own government and the things that they've been up to, and this illusion that we have a two-party system when really it's like when you peel back the layers, it's like, okay, who's actually running the show here?
• 44:23
  Have we actually had a president who's running this show in Washington since JFK was shot?
• 44:30
  Or or has this all just been smoke, smoke and mirrors and one intelligence operation after after another?
• 44:37
  Like I mean, it was pretty clear under Biden that Biden wasn't running the show.
• 44:42
  There's no way that that demented vegetable was actually making any legitimate decisions.
• 44:48
  And um, and now you look at uh the way even the way Trump is acting now in in this term, it's completely off the rails from all his campaign promises.
• 44:57
  He's off the rails in terms of being tapped into the will and aspirations of his base.
• 45:02
  It is bizarre to see, and it's hard to make sense of what we're seeing.
• 45:06
  I mean, this first six months was like, okay, yeah, uh, we're moving in the right direction, and then I feel like it all came to a screeching halt.
• 45:14
  I I don't I don't put my faith in a man.
• 45:19
  Um I've criticized Trump openly prior to this presidency and election.
• 45:26
  Um yeah, it's absolutely wild to see.
• 45:30
  I want to ask, and you guys might not know the answer.
• 45:33
  Does anybody know, isn't there like a prophecy, and I don't know who it's by about the last president?
• 45:39
  Um, and it's funny that you said since JFK, like, how does that all fit in?
• 45:44
  That might be another rabbit hole to go down, um, or find a guest who can give us some information, but I feel like there's some prophecy that we that has been discussed about the last US president and the loss of control.
• 45:59
  I've heard about it referred to as for Trump, that he's some biblical figure or chosen one of sorts that is going to be the one to basically you know uh in the cycle of whatever's happening in the world.
• 46:17
  Obviously, I'm not sure uh much to elaborate on that from there, but I have heard people refer to him and put him in this high power of being chosen as the last president.
• 46:28
  Um the cycle or hand us over to the WAEF.
• 46:32
  I mean, I mean, like it mo well, it depends on which side you're on, but definitely um it was a book that was published in the 1890s.
• 46:42
  Let's see here.
• 46:43
  Uh, aspects of the prophecy is it Ingersoll Lockwood books published in the 1890 that featured a Baron Trump in a 1900 election.
• 46:53
  Yeah.
• 46:54
  Yeah.
• 46:54
  So I don't know if they're pulling.
• 46:57
  Some weird stuff there.
• 46:59
  They're just yeah, so I I have heard it, Ashley.
• 47:01
  I just don't know much about it.
• 47:03
  Um but basically saying that there's biblical prophecy of it and it being a tied to Trump.
• 47:10
  I was feeling like it was it historically, because this all feels like a giant puppet show, and who knows?
• 47:16
  Maybe it was back then too.
• 47:17
  I don't know.
• 47:18
  Well, I criticized Biden and pointed out that he was a vegetable, which absolutely everybody who was paying attention saw, and we were gaslit about that by the mainstream media for years and years.
• 47:29
  It was honestly insane to see people during the campaign say that this is the sharpest Biden ever, and and all that sort of thing.
• 47:36
  Like it was so clownish, which is why I'll go on the record now to say that uh I believe that um Trump is showing some signs of dementia.
• 47:46
  He's obviously nowhere near where Joe Biden was at during his presidency, but I think the signs are there.
• 47:53
  In particular, his really quick temper.
• 47:56
  A lot of people, you know, can go back ears and talk about mean tweets, but something has changed with Trump, and I believe I believe he's showing some um some signs of dementia here.
• 48:07
  Is it unpopular opinion?
• 48:09
  But you know what?
• 48:10
  Let's I'm I'm going on the record.
• 48:12
  Is it dementia or is it poison?
• 48:15
  And the same could be said for Biden.
• 48:18
  Poison.
• 48:18
  Do you mean his uh his uh COVID boosters or um I mean it's also the stress of the job, just uh he he's old as dirt.
• 48:27
  I mean, let's let's be honest, and he's got the most stressful job in the world and he doesn't sleep much, so that might contribute to it as well.
• 48:33
  But uh I think he eats McDonald's and eats McDonald's metabolic health is crap, but uh I I think we're seeing some some dementia going on.
• 48:43
  So, with that being said, have you guys seen the news articles coming out of uh mainstream talking about how the Iranian war has reduced our supply of fluoride?
• 48:54
  Yes.
• 48:55
  Oh yeah.
• 48:57
  Yeah, gosh.
• 48:58
  Sorry, let's wrap it back up to that well to heroin.
• 49:00
  Back up to well, she said to heroin.
• 49:03
  I mean, I just thought so.
• 49:03
  I mean, I just thought so.
• 49:06
  Welcome to the nurses report, the Friday QA crew that just goes on a whirlwind.
• 49:06
  Welcome to the Nurses Report, the Friday QA crew that just goes on a whirlwind.
• 49:10
  Just yeah, we're heading in every direction.
• 49:10
  Yeah, we're heading in every direction.
• 49:12
  It's an it's every ADHD streamers, you know, dream of going up down all around and bringing you looping you back, circling you uh at a rapid pace back to today's topic, which is heroin.
• 49:12
  It's an it's every ADHD streamers, you know, dream of going up down all around and bringing you looping you back, circling you uh at a rapid pace back to today's topic, which is heroin.
• 49:24
  I mean, I'm still dying inside that he just called him a vegetable.
• 49:24
  I mean, I'm so dying inside that he just called him a vegetable.
• 49:28
  I mean, he's just an old turnip.
• 49:28
  I mean, he's just an old turnip, okay, by
• 49:29
  Okay, Biden is where is he, by the way?
• 49:31
  Where is Biden?
• 49:32
  Yeah.
• 49:34
  We haven't.
• 49:34
  So it's just one of those deals that um we're we're we're just here on the nurses' reports report.
• 49:41
  We don't know where Biden's at, and Trump might be a little off the rails at some point.
• 49:45
  But uh back to heroin.
• 49:47
  So I wanted to just kind of loop it in because I do think that there's still some important facts that I want everybody to know because even though it's completely banned, right?
• 49:55
  We're not supposed to be, you know, saying it's safe and effective, and it's definitely not legal, uh, that there are some.
• 50:02
  So they say that the deaths of heroin are declining.
• 50:05
  Supposedly, the latest data shows a downward trend from 2016, uh, until now, thousands, thousands and thousands of deaths.
• 50:16
  The problem is is that heroin is being laced with fentanyl.
• 50:20
  And like Dave mentioned in the beginning, uh, this is becoming more rampant and possibly arguably more lethal, and something that we are trying to combat from the United States borders aspect uh and where it's coming in and how easily it is taking the lives of others, uh especially young adults and children, depending on you know, uh the origin of where it's coming from.
• 50:42
  There's a lot of accidental overdoses.
• 50:44
  There are definitely um really some sad cases that have been on social media of somebody taking something thinking it was something else, and it ended up being laced with fentanyl.
• 50:55
  And so that is where it basically still lives, if you will.
• 50:59
  Uh, heroin being laced with fentanyl and being kind of looped into that.
• 51:04
  Also, men account for majority of heroin overdoses, with the death of nearly three times higher than that of women, which is an interesting fact uh there as well, and that approximately 900,000 to 1.1 million Americans still uh report using heroin annually, which kind of an interesting fun fact there.
• 51:26
  Wow.
• 51:26
  Wow.
• 51:27
  It's it's quite high.
• 51:28
  Uh, I mean, obviously, we have what 380 million in the country, I think is one of the last statistics that I saw.
• 51:36
  But there's 330, 340.
• 51:38
  Or maybe I'm wrong.
• 51:39
  Yeah, 330, that's probably right.
• 51:40
  Uh, so one 1.1 million, and I'm sure that's probably on the low end, uh, is still incredibly high.
• 51:46
  And also, um they say that 80% of people who use heroin first started doing so because of the misuse of their prescription opioids, which is why this is such an important topic that we cover, because again, most of these things are, as Ashley's saying in the chat, which is true.
• 52:08
  These are things that are reported, um, not necessarily uh an accurate estimation on what actually may be going on.
• 52:15
  And so, because street heroin is often highly pure, many new users per the Googles, um, are smoking or andor snorting it rather than injecting it, which is uh a belief that people feel it will become less likely to be addicted to it, the way that they're taking it in.
• 52:36
  They are saying that if they actually smoke or snort it versus using it IV drug use, that they will not be as addicted, which is obviously a horrible uh assumption that we know is not true, and that a lot of times um it or originates uh more so now out of South America, uh is what I'm reading, but dominates the US market east of the Mississippi, while black tar, as I'm using uh air quotes, heroin is more common in the West.
• 53:05
  So it is still something that we're still seeing a lot of uh in the United States, it's being mixed in, if you will, with fentanyl, causing these increase in in overdoses and deaths.
• 53:17
  Um again, you know, there's a lot of people who are still trying to receive uh treatment for this.
• 53:23
  It is estimated that approximately 800,000 last data that I can see says from 2020, people who are trying to seek actual treatment for a heroin addiction.
• 53:35
  And for those of us that have talked about this and Dave, like what would be the drug that typically do we know the drug that is given to combat heroin?
• 53:46
  Uh usually it's methadone or maybe suboxone.
• 53:49
  Methadone and and narcan, uh, I believe, right?
• 53:51
  Or suboxone you said as narcan, is that another one?
• 53:54
  Yeah, narcane is what is used uh during an overdose, yeah.
• 53:58
  Reverse uh reverse.
• 53:59
  So not necessarily to treat uh heroin, but not to treat the addictive component, yeah.
• 54:04
  That's that's gonna be right uh methadone or subacone.
• 54:08
  So for those of you that have heard of methadone clinics, etc., that's where we're speaking on this as well.
• 54:12
  Yes, Ashley.
• 54:13
  So Suboxone, I think is one of the other names for like methadone and stuff like that.
• 54:20
  I feel comfortable sharing this because my sister-in-law is working on writing a book, and she was like many of those others who had an injury.
• 54:28
  She started taking prescription painkillers, and she has gone down this horrible path.
• 54:35
  Now, luckily she's always been very kind and loving, and while she's using it's kind of crazy, but um it it she'll tell you it's ruined her life.
• 54:44
  She feels like she has been a lab rat that has been tested on.
• 54:48
  Um, and she's not she doesn't feel like she's getting any help.
• 54:52
  She has all these symptoms or had all these symptoms.
• 54:54
  She's weaned off and gone a more holistic route.
• 54:58
  Um, and I think she's she's doing better.
• 55:02
  Um, but it's still a struggle, and there's still a lot of self-medication.
• 55:07
  And it's one of those things where you see the plight of these people, and when you have these medications that cause these massive dumps of dopamine, that dopamine addiction, you think about the hit and the way you're getting addicted to your phone.
• 55:20
  Now, amplify that I don't even know by how much.
• 55:25
  Uh, and that's what these people are dealing with.
• 55:27
  They feel like they're gonna die, their skin's crawling.
• 55:29
  Um all of these things, and so it's truly heartbreaking.
• 55:34
  Agreed.
• 55:34
  I don't know if you want to add anything, Dave, before we end it, because we're right at the time.
• 55:39
  I was just gonna clarify Suboxone has uh narcan built into it, and so there's yeah, less less abuse uh potential with it.
• 55:49
  Thank you for clarifying that.
• 55:50
  Yeah, and then again, this is so important because it's still, you know, in 2026, something that people are encountering and dealing with, and one of the biggest takeaways is that the fun fact on the Googles uh says that 80% of people who dove into heroin was because they misuse opioids and opioids are still very widely prescribed uh for various diseases and ailments, and this is so easy for people to kind of escape.
• 56:00
  The fun fact on the Googles uh says that 80% of people who dove into heroin was because they misused opioids, and opioids are still very widely prescribed uh for various diseases and ailments, and this is so easy for people to kind of escape.
• 56:16
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• 56:16
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• 56:20
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