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- 0:00I'm Stephanie.
- 0:00I am Meredith and welcome to, this is my circus.
- 0:04Yay.
- 0:06That's like the second time I said this in the past five minutes.
- 0:08Just, yeah.
- 0:09Well, you know, that's the feeling I get when we record is like, yeah, yes, exactly.
- 0:14Exactly.
- 0:14So, We recorded last week.
- 0:16We did.
- 0:17And released this week.
- 0:20So today's Thursday.
- 0:21We released on Tuesday.
- 0:22Did you listen to it?
- 0:24I did.
- 0:24It was so good.
- 0:26So first I, you know, edited it.
- 0:28Of course.
- 0:29I had texted you.
- 0:29I'm like, it's so good.
- 0:31I'm so happy to be back.
- 0:32Yes.
- 0:33So, um, then once I uploaded it, I listened to it again.
- 0:38And so side note for everyone, I did not have Dylan's microphone because it's the cords at who knows where.
- 0:45so we did not have mics last week.
- 0:48Right.
- 0:48so this week we are trying other little microphones that we had.
- 0:53Hopefully the sound is a little bit better.
- 0:54Yes.
- 0:55and then next week I will like dig.
- 0:58Oh, we got the thumbs up again.
- 0:59Thumbs up again.
- 1:01I don't know where that's coming from.
- 1:02I just feel like it's just.
- 1:06Positive affirmation that the computer has given us, just like you're doing a good job.
- 1:10I think so too.
- 1:11It's like a sign from the podcast.
- 1:12Yes.
- 1:14and if you guys can't tell from that little, conversation we just had, Stephanie does everything.
- 1:18I just show up.
- 1:20Stephanie is, is the, definitely the brains.
- 1:23I am.
- 1:24I wouldn't go that far.
- 1:27Well, Steph does all our editing and all of our stuff.
- 1:30posting on socials with all the clips.
- 1:32But luckily there's not much editing needed because you guys pretty much hear like most of what goes on.
- 1:39Unless you have to blurb out like Rex barking or something.
- 1:42Or his heavy breathing.
- 1:44Yes.
- 1:45So there's really not a whole lot of editing but I absolutely am so happy we're back.
- 1:50So thank you to everyone who has listened.
- 1:52If you didn't catch last week's definitely do because we kind of give our life updates in the last nine months.
- 1:57so that's really, I think, about it.
- 1:59How was your week?
- 2:00It was a good week.
- 2:01So, Saturday, Jackson went to upper state for, DISCUS.
- 2:05And he did well.
- 2:05He did not qualify to go to state, which we didn't expect.
- 2:08But it was a cool experience for him.
- 2:09There's a lot going on.
- 2:10And then Mother's Day was Sunday.
- 2:12And, yeah, I just chilled.
- 2:14Jackson was like, can so and so come over?
- 2:16I was like, no.
- 2:17Absolutely not.
- 2:18Like it is no.
- 2:19And I was like, you know what, I'm going to take a nap and I don't feel one bit guilty about it.
- 2:22Yeah.
- 2:22and I've got some other funny stories.
- 2:24I want to fill you in on some, you know, I've always got.
- 2:27Something.
- 2:27Yes.
- 2:28Pretty much.
- 2:28How about you?
- 2:29How was your weekend?
- 2:30Your week?
- 2:31uneventful.
- 2:31for the most part.
- 2:32Yeah, that was, I really didn't do a lot.
- 2:35my mom and I for Mother's Day went and, checked out a little store in Cramerton.
- 2:40Nice.
- 2:40and then we went out for lunch.
- 2:41Dylan kind of was, uh, just running around and his girlfriend got back from Vegas.
- 2:46She went to Vegas with her mom and her brother for Mother's Day.
- 2:50Fun.
- 2:51They did some sightseeing.
- 2:52Vegas y stuff.
- 2:53Yeah.
- 2:53and then she got back Sunday.
- 2:54So he went and hung out with her for a little bit and then he came here for a little while.
- 2:57we watched, I didn't realize how, bad it was, but the Netflix, What's the Patriots quarterback every heat Tom Brady is Rose.
- 3:06I want to see it was a terrible bomb.
- 3:08It was just a lot of Inappropriate to watch with your kid Him Washington by himself is fine.
- 3:16You watch him by yourself is fine, but together just I've heard a lot about it.
- 3:23I want to watch it I was actually reading something on TMZ today and he made a statement that some of the jokes have Um What's the word he used something like, uh, affected his children.
- 3:36I saw that as well.
- 3:38yeah, so I saw that on TMZ and I was like, Ooh, now I really wanna know what they said.
- 3:43Well, it was a lot of, you know, him and Giselle.
- 3:45Mm-Hmm.
- 3:46split.
- 3:47And she's with her like TaeKwonDo.
- 3:49Instructor.
- 3:51So there was a lot of like of those jokes on there, a lot of, you know, about his looks a lot of, it was funny.
- 3:59It was a lot of the same jokes over and over and over again, like on the same topics.
- 4:02Yeah.
- 4:02So after like the first four were up there, I was like, okay, like we get it.
- 4:07Yeah.
- 4:07You know?
- 4:08Yeah.
- 4:08But it was okay.
- 4:09But it was, you know, good.
- 4:10That's all we really did.
- 4:11Yeah.
- 4:12Cool though.
- 4:13I mean, that's chill, relaxing.
- 4:15Yeah.
- 4:16I do also want to mention that on Friday, Clover sucker.
- 4:21team, the ladies won state.
- 4:23That's awesome.
- 4:23We're five eight.
- 4:24Yes.
- 4:25So excited for them.
- 4:26that's just, that's huge.
- 4:28Yes, absolutely.
- 4:30Congratulations to them.
- 4:31And, uh, had the, my schedule worked out so I can be at the school when they came home.
- 4:37So that was really cool to be able to see them and they had like the police cars and the.
- 4:42Fire trucks, like opposite fire stations.
- 4:45The fire trucks, escorting them and, just to see them be all hyped up and stuff.
- 4:49That was just unbelievable.
- 4:51I'm really proud of them.
- 4:52Did you see that post where they were like, what's going on in Clover?
- 4:55Why are there so many cops?
- 4:57I feel like I want to make this blanket Facebook post like, okay.
- 5:01We're just going to tell all 19 people that listen here.
- 5:04Okay.
- 5:05Number one, people were, the cops and the fire, People were all together because they were escorting our state champs.
- 5:12Number two, the sound that you hear is the cicadas.
- 5:15Like, I see that every day on social media.
- 5:17Like, what's that noise?
- 5:18It's the cicadas.
- 5:19Like, yeah.
- 5:20Okay.
- 5:21And number three, I want to say, everybody We're going to trick or treat on Halloween.
- 5:26Everybody always posts like, when are we going to trick or treat?
- 5:29It's Halloween.
- 5:30It's October 31st.
- 5:32have you heard the cicadas?
- 5:34I haven't really heard them here.
- 5:35Dylan said it's horrible in Rock Hill.
- 5:37It is.
- 5:37When he goes to school.
- 5:39Yes.
- 5:39He said it's terrible.
- 5:40They are like attacking cars.
- 5:42Because we met my sister.
- 5:44for dinner Saturday night and they were like flying in and out of the cars and stuff.
- 5:49It was great.
- 5:50And we could, we were driving down the road and could hear them as we're driving like over like the road noise and everything.
- 5:57Yeah.
- 5:57Have you seen those means that it's like, I want to be like the cicadas and just scream for six weeks.
- 6:03It's not a, not a bad idea.
- 6:05I could get on board and I can get on board with that.
- 6:08okay.
- 6:08Okay.
- 6:08So.
- 6:10Want to hop into whatever we want to talk about today?
- 6:12Okay, so we're actually switching up our format.
- 6:14Yeah We wanted to kind of freshen up, spice things up.
- 6:18Yeah, and give you guys a little bit something different each week So do you want to talk about what we're doing?
- 6:24Yeah, so our we're gonna keep the book reviews Yeah, and I will since Stephanie does everything else I will take upon myself to get us a list of books because I know everybody likes having you know Kind of where we were and what we were doing so I'll, I'll compile a list and we'll go from there to do the books and we're also going to touch on some celebrity or current crime, kind of like we talked about the, Michael Miller thing last week.
- 6:49A lot of celebrity stuff, but we're going to kind of bring that into the fold and talk about that.
- 6:54And there's one more thing I can't remember.
- 6:55Am I the a hole?
- 6:57Yeah.
- 6:57So I don't know if y'all are on Reddit.
- 6:59but I have seen a lot of these and I think like, it's so interesting that people put themselves out there, to be judged.
- 7:07Yes.
- 7:07Yes.
- 7:08So like they go on Reddit, they post on the Reddit, um, am I the, and it's the actual word a hole, but, um, I'm just going to say a hole.
- 7:17and we need to keep our writing clean or whatever, whatever.
- 7:20They tell their story, they give the details of why they think they might be a male or not, and people in this thread just say yes or no, and why they think so.
- 7:31So I would love to try this out.
- 7:35Will read a thread and then give our hot takes on it.
- 7:39Okay, I wasn't sure how, because we haven't really talked about how we wanted it to work.
- 7:43I didn't know if we were coming up with situations.
- 7:45No, no, no, no.
- 7:46I mean, I I do have So, but we're not going to tell everybody about all that.
- 7:52I don't mean to be judge at this point in my life.
- 7:57We'll just continue to wear the ropes and bang the gavel on everybody else.
- 8:00Yes.
- 8:01Okay.
- 8:01Um, so let's try that out.
- 8:03You guys can then tell us in the comments, what the post what you think.
- 8:07Perfect.
- 8:08And if you have a story that you want us to judge you on.
- 8:11Yeah, and we'll do it anonymously.
- 8:13Like, we won't put you out there.
- 8:14Like, definitely, you can send that in.
- 8:17Yes.
- 8:17And even how in the past, how I've, you know, kind of gave terrible code names.
- 8:23We would totally be anonymous.
- 8:24I would, I would not put anybody on the list.
- 8:26We will just say anonymous.
- 8:27Yes.
- 8:28Absolutely.
- 8:28Okay.
- 8:29so my favorite thing that's always been that we've done is the book review.
- 8:32Yes.
- 8:32So can we talk about that?
- 8:33We definitely can.
- 8:35So we read, it's by Peter Swanson.
- 8:37Yes.
- 8:37And it was called, the con worth killing.
- 8:40And trigger warnings on this book because there's a lot of, a lot of everything.
- 8:45So if you're triggered, this is probably not the book for you.
- 8:49It is not.
- 8:49There's, there's a lot of murder.
- 8:52There's self inflicted.
- 8:54I think, yeah.
- 8:55And, potential child abuse.
- 8:57Yes.
- 8:58So, there's all the things.
- 9:00Yeah.
- 9:00But, I'm going to read the little, please.
- 9:02Okay.
- 9:04So, on a night flight from London to Boston, Ted Severson meets the stunning and mysterious Lily Kittner.
- 9:11Sharing one too many martinis, the strangers begin to play a game of truth, revealing very intimate details about themselves.
- 9:18Ted talks about his marriage that's going stale, and his wife Miranda, who he sure is cheating on him.
- 9:24Ted and his wife were a mismatch from the start.
- 9:27He, the rich businessman, she, the artistic free spirit.
- 9:31A contrast that once inflamed their passion, but now became a cliche.
- 9:35But the game turns a little darker when Ted jokes that he could kill Miranda for what she's done.
- 9:40Lily, without missing a beat, says calmly, I'd like to help.
- 9:44After all, some people are the kind worth killing.
- 9:47Like a lying, stinking, cheating spouse.
- 9:51Back in Boston, Ted and Lily's twisted bond grows stronger as they begin to plot Miranda's demise.
- 9:56But there are a few things that, about Lily's past, that she hasn't shared with Ted.
- 10:00Namely, her experience in the art and craft of murder.
- 10:03A journey that began And her very precocious youth.
- 10:07Suddenly, the co conspirators are embroiled in a chilling game of cat and mouse.
- 10:12One they both cannot survive.
- 10:14With a shrewd and very determined detective on their trail.
- 10:18So, that was a lot of words.
- 10:20It was a lot of words.
- 10:21Okay, so I listened, like I always do.
- 10:24Yes, I am a audiobook.
- 10:26Yes, lover.
- 10:27Yes, absolutely.
- 10:28I took notes.
- 10:29I took notes up here in the vault.
- 10:32My vault doesn't work anymore.
- 10:34I forgot the code to my vault.
- 10:36Okay, so just, Just reading the blurb and then reading the book, I didn't put them together.
- 10:43Like, I felt very, okay, it was not what I expected at all.
- 10:47what I loved was each character had their own reader or their own voice.
- 10:51And I prefer that.
- 10:52It makes it so much easier for me to follow along, especially in this kind of book where like there's like twists.
- 10:58And there's so many characters, that are about the same age so.
- 11:03But I mean, yes, I totally agree.
- 11:05Each of them, their own distinct voice makes it easier to separate who's who.
- 11:08Yeah.
- 11:08Okay.
- 11:09so.
- 11:10I think there was a lot of twists but it was easy to follow.
- 11:14Agreed.
- 11:15For there to have been as much back and forth as there was with secret agent, double crossing, triple crossing, quadruple crossing, it was still easy to know who was on whose team per se and what was going on.
- 11:27I didn't get lost.
- 11:28Right.
- 11:29And I didn't, Necessarily catch all the twist.
- 11:32Like, I didn't like pre know.
- 11:33No.
- 11:33Me neither things that were gonna happen, Uhhuh.
- 11:35Um, I thought I knew, but Right.
- 11:36There was another twist.
- 11:37Right, exactly.
- 11:38So that aspect of it was awesome.
- 11:41Yeah.
- 11:41Agreed.
- 11:42Agreed.
- 11:43it kind of reminded me of the premise of Dexter.
- 11:45Did you ever watch Dexter?
- 11:46Oh yeah.
- 11:47Like a couple of, yeah.
- 11:49you know, you're a bad guy, so you should die like that.
- 11:51Right.
- 11:51I don't think that.
- 11:52what they consider horrible friends are like death worthy, right?
- 11:58I felt like this book was not like a super graphic book.
- 12:01They talk about that, but then all of a sudden it would throw me for a loop talking about a specific sound.
- 12:08And I'd be like, Ooh, yeah, through this part.
- 12:10Yeah, yeah, for sure.
- 12:11but it wasn't one that was like blood and guts.
- 12:13Like we've read before.
- 12:14No, no, no, no.
- 12:15did you, agree?
- 12:18With their train of thought?
- 12:20No! Okay.
- 12:22I mean, I just I can't think of the right words.
- 12:25So I, I did not agree with it.
- 12:28I thought that, but when you thought that they were doing something just like living their life, they were really setting somebody up in that moment, whether it was to plant evidence or to lead somebody astray or to, I don't know, make it look like this, that, or the other.
- 12:43It was just crazy to me that the forethought in a lot of these different situations, even up until the very end of the book.
- 12:51Oh, the ending was crazy.
- 12:52Yeah! Oh my gosh, the last, like, line of the book.
- 12:56Yes.
- 12:56I need a part two.
- 12:57Yes, yes.
- 12:59Okay.
- 12:59Yeah, so the ending was, like, almost a cliffhanger.
- 13:03Yes.
- 13:03but it kinda, like, yeah.
- 13:05You knew where it was gonna end up.
- 13:06Yeah.
- 13:06I think, well, you think, but then with this book, you don't really know.
- 13:09Right.
- 13:10Yeah.
- 13:10Well, I kept looking and I was like, wait, there's only that much time left, like, but they're going to do this?
- 13:15Like, how is that going to?
- 13:16Yeah.
- 13:16I was, I was a little bummed about that.
- 13:18Yeah, me too.
- 13:19There were a lot of characters in this book between the, the two main females and then the parents and then the husband.
- 13:28And then the other man and the detective, like there was a lot of people involved in this that were main characters.
- 13:36Not just like a supporting, like I feel like all of those people had a, A big role.
- 13:41Right.
- 13:42Um, in this, it wasn't just like a brief mention.
- 13:44So, Lily, the, the show conspirator, do you think that she was just like a psychopath?
- 13:51Or do you think that her growing up in the household that she grew up in with all the things that were going on in front of her, really, How did that change her to be this type of, like, psychopath?
- 14:02I think, I think that she probably had some kind of underlying issues.
- 14:07I mean, I think it's one of those nature versus nurture.
- 14:09And she had no nurture, so her nature took over kind of to make her.
- 14:15That's my opinion.
- 14:16For her, it was survival, the way that she did some of these things and planned some of these things.
- 14:22But then, she got carried away.
- 14:24Yeah.
- 14:24Like it wasn't just, cause then it was like revenge or payback, which is revenge.
- 14:31I'm a thesaurus today.
- 14:32but yeah, what do you think about her?
- 14:34So I, when it went into her, her first, non human, yeah.
- 14:39Yeah.
- 14:39Yeah.
- 14:40I guess you can call it.
- 14:41Yeah.
- 14:41which that was one that the noises and stuff.
- 14:45I was like, oh, this is like your big red flag, you know, it's part of the traffic.
- 14:50Yeah.
- 14:51Yeah.
- 14:51So I was like, oh, this is going to be like that.
- 14:55But then, her whole theory is, This person's going to continue hurting people in the world.
- 15:01I'm taking them out early.
- 15:03They're gonna die anyway.
- 15:04I'm gonna take them out early.
- 15:05The thing with her, too, is, and it probably went back to her childhood, is that there was no trust.
- 15:09She handled it all.
- 15:11She wasn't going to turn somebody in or go to the police or do anything.
- 15:15She felt like she was going to handle whatever was Yeah, she was judge, jury and execution.
- 15:21Yes.
- 15:22Yes.
- 15:23So, yeah, I really liked the book'cause Oh yeah.
- 15:26I did not know where it was gonna go.
- 15:27Yeah, I did too.
- 15:28it was an easy thing to listen to.
- 15:29Yeah.
- 15:29Like, it wasn't, I, you know, um.
- 15:31You probably do too.
- 15:32Multitasking.
- 15:33Yeah.
- 15:33I was still, you know, able to follow everything, even with all the characters.
- 15:37Right.
- 15:37I thought it was well written.
- 15:40Yes.
- 15:40The only thing I got confused in, and you might have to help me with this part.
- 15:45So go back to towards the beginning of the book, and the dad is talking about, and hopefully no spoilers here, but Lily and Rose.
- 15:54Uh huh.
- 15:55We never hear about Rose again, do we?
- 15:57No.
- 15:57Okay, because I kept thinking Well, stop listening if you haven't read it.
- 16:03Yeah, that Rose was going to end up being the other female lead.
- 16:07Okay.
- 16:07I thought that too.
- 16:08Okay.
- 16:08But no.
- 16:09Okay.
- 16:10Yeah.
- 16:11All right.
- 16:11and she, the other girl, like I did not see all that.
- 16:15What are the odds?
- 16:16I know.
- 16:17Okay.
- 16:17So both of these, both of the females end up being crazy psycho.
- 16:22Yeah.
- 16:23I mean, and more so than we normally females normally are.
- 16:28But like crazy.
- 16:30Yeah, So we had talked about this just through texting like what are we gonna review this week?
- 16:34Yeah, and so I was on tik tok and somehow got on book talk and This dude had recommended this book and I had never heard of the author.
- 16:44I never wrote anything by it.
- 16:45So So that was pretty cool to find.
- 16:49And I like, I would read him again.
- 16:51So what would you rate the book out of 10?
- 16:53Oh, I would give it probably like high, like eight ish, nine ish.
- 16:58I mean, I can't think of anything.
- 17:01I would want to change other than I want more information at the end of the book.
- 17:05it was never dry.
- 17:07It was quick.
- 17:08Easy to follow but still kept your attention.
- 17:12Yes.
- 17:12Yeah, and twisted enough that I was it was an unpredictable.
- 17:16Yes so yeah, you you rate it pretty high.
- 17:18Yeah, I would go eight and a half.
- 17:20Yeah Definitely would read again.
- 17:22I would I was thinking about that too.
- 17:24Like I would like to read it again almost now that I know That everybody's psycho.
- 17:29Laughter And just to, you know, pick up on those things.
- 17:33But yeah, it was a good book.
- 17:35Definitely a good book.
- 17:35Awesome.
- 17:36Are you reading anything else right now?
- 17:38Right now, I'm not.
- 17:39what are you reading?
- 17:40So, I'm also reading First Law Wins.
- 17:42Okay.
- 17:44It's by Ashley Elston.
- 17:46Okay.
- 17:46And we'll do that next week.
- 17:47Sounds good.
- 17:48That's okay.
- 17:48Yeah.
- 17:48first lie wins.
- 17:50And it sounds pretty interesting.
- 17:51And I actually also downloaded, you know, we had talked about, um, in our celebrity rabbit hole tunnel village.
- 17:59we talked about the Jada Pinkett Smith book and it's called Worthy and I downloaded that.
- 18:04I want to listen to that too.
- 18:05I'm just fascinated.
- 18:06I'm not like a fan.
- 18:08Just, you know, anything outside of like what my normal is that I'm just like, Ooh, it's like prison movies and stuff.
- 18:14I'm like, Ooh, jail.
- 18:15That's interesting.
- 18:16I don't want to go there, but I want to watch it.
- 18:18I know.
- 18:18I, I would not last a second.
- 18:20Oh, no, no.
- 18:23Well, speaking of like the drama, did you see that?
- 18:26P.
- 18:26Diddy's son wrote a diss track with 50 Cent and it had Eminem's name in there.
- 18:32I'm like, you dummy.
- 18:33Do not touch him.
- 18:34You dummy.
- 18:35I know.
- 18:36Dummy.
- 18:36And it wasn't even a good diss track.
- 18:39Like, no.
- 18:40You're gonna come for them?
- 18:40You gotta come.
- 18:41Right.
- 18:42Like, P.
- 18:42Right.
- 18:43Over breakfast.
- 18:44He can just like flopped.
- 18:46He flopped.
- 18:47Yeah.
- 18:48Eminem's got some of the best lyrics.
- 18:50Oh my gosh.
- 18:51He is, Jack's trying to talk about this all the time.
- 18:53And I'm like, there's nobody that has better lyrics than him.
- 18:56He's like, Oh, well, these are pretty cool.
- 18:57I'm like, no.
- 18:59Yeah.
- 18:59I said, the only other person that I really love their lyrics is like Ludacris is really cool to me, the way he makes things rhyme.
- 19:05Yeah.
- 19:07It's just.
- 19:07What they do.
- 19:08Oh my god.
- 19:09Oh my god.
- 19:11Take me But anyway, yeah And then 50 Cent like, you know, like, oh I'm scared like, you know, he is like the king of petty.
- 19:22Oh, yeah and Trolling and he's got time and money for it.
- 19:28Why not?
- 19:28My gosh.
- 19:29I know.
- 19:29Have you seen his daughter lately?
- 19:31She's gorgeous She's really pretty but Meek Mills Popped up on Twitter talking Trash about 50 Cent, like, trolling the P Diddy's son because of the diss track and I'm like, what did you expect him to do?
- 19:46He did it for a reaction.
- 19:48Right.
- 19:48Like, you got your reaction.
- 19:49Right.
- 19:50And to go against them?
- 19:52Meek Mills though, I mean, he's supposed to be like all I guess.
- 19:57You know, and there's that the sound clip that came out and sound clip.
- 20:04Oh, dear.
- 20:05Do you need to educate me again?
- 20:07Yeah.
- 20:09One of the security guards.
- 20:11At P.
- 20:12Diddy's place.
- 20:13Okay.
- 20:14Heard some clapping going on.
- 20:16Okay.
- 20:18Some vocals and videoed it like at the door and then released it.
- 20:23Oh no.
- 20:24And it supposedly, so they were having a celebration with clapping and yelling and stuff.
- 20:32They were doing something.
- 20:33All right.
- 20:34No, I didn't hear about it.
- 20:35Like there's like, I like audio, of, of the situation., It's, it's like things you never needed to hear No.
- 20:45In your entire life.
- 20:46No.
- 20:46I was like, why?
- 20:47Why would they do this to us?
- 20:50I have no words.
- 20:51Same.
- 20:52Same.
- 20:52I really have no words.
- 20:54Um, there's some things that I never wanted to hear.
- 20:57That's Mm-Hmm.
- 21:00Okay.
- 21:04Well, moving on, moving on.
- 21:07Did you hear about, Kim K and, several other huge celebrities like losing a lot of followers and stuff?
- 21:13And they lost a lot of brand deals is what I'm hearing.
- 21:17Connected with all of this.
- 21:19Yeah.
- 21:20And between that and then the other thing is I don't want to get political because we're not political people, but so I might misspeak here, but everything going on in Gaza and celebrities are not using the platforms they've been given that people feel like they should use.
- 21:35And so people are unfollowing them.
- 21:38I don't think that that's fair, though, if that's not what they normally and like, this is just my hot take.
- 21:42So I take it for with a grain of salt, but if they don't normally.
- 21:46Talk about certain things and they aren't either one educated on it or, feel comfortable taking a hard stance on something.
- 21:54I feel like the public I don't either way them one way or the other or force them to make it.
- 21:59That's very true.
- 22:00The one that I heard that people are really going for is Taylor Swift.
- 22:04And the reason is.
- 22:05and what I found is that back in 2020, when there was a situation, she was just boohooing and crying in buckets of tears about the fact that she wishes she would have stood up and gotten involved and, you know, used her platform.
- 22:20And so people are coming for her now saying, hello, Use your platform.
- 22:25again, don't want to get political with it, but that's making a huge impact.
- 22:28People losing a lot of brand deals, followers.
- 22:31I saw there was a, a girl on TikTok, like TikTok famous or whatever, but she got like bullied off of TikTok and like her whole platform was just about mental health and nothing political, nothing, whatever.
- 22:42And she got like, basically like pushed off of tick tock, all the people in her comment section and like, she had talked about her own mental health issues.
- 22:53Can you imagine having like using this platform to talk about your mental health, and just trying to bring like happiness to the platform and people bullying you because you don't take their stand on something or you don't publicly make a stance.
- 23:06One way or the other.
- 23:07Yeah.
- 23:08I don't feel like that's something that.
- 23:11Anybody should be forced to do.
- 23:14Well, there's freedom of speech, right?
- 23:16And there's in that I also Feel like that's the freedom to not say anything Right so you can or you cannot and for them to not have the right to not speak on it isn't fair I just don't feel like if that's not what your normal platform is about or if you don't want to go public one way or the other, like I don't feel like you should have to.
- 23:36said there was some, there was some updates on the Micah Miller thing.
- 23:40So I just quickly looked for updates.
- 23:42We know that the FBI was brought in.
- 23:44But do you know why the FBI was brought in?
- 23:46Because we said that the FBI brought in.
- 23:48Well, I would love for that to be true.
- 23:50However, they, the church, was trying to say that Micah was stealing money from the church.
- 23:56Oh.
- 23:57And that's why they were brought in.
- 24:00It wasn't necessarily because of the The death.
- 24:02Yeah.
- 24:03That's why they initially came in.
- 24:05so they had whatever fundraiser, she was very, involved in the Africa, missions missions.
- 24:12Yeah.
- 24:12So, and she was actually planning on moving there.
- 24:14Okay.
- 24:15And so that was her mission project.
- 24:18Supposedly they were accusing her of stealing money out of the account for this mission project.
- 24:25her parents came back and said that.
- 24:28It was money that she had put out of pocket for all of these events that they were going to raise funds and that the church wasn't reimbursing her for, but so there's, I guess, 1, 200 missing, Venmo and, cash app or whatever had put placed a whole three day hold on these funds.
- 24:46And the day after she was found, the 1, 200 got released back into, back into the account.
- 24:54From what I saw, I mean, something suspicious there, I don't know, and 1, 200, but I mean, that's not that that's not a significant amount of money, but FBI worthy.
- 25:05Yeah.
- 25:05I don't know.
- 25:06Like this whole thing is like super sketch.
- 25:09So then her dad, her family's been making the circuit on like, Good.
- 25:12Everything, because there is just something not right.
- 25:16So JP would not let her family, the husband, would not let her family see her body unless they signed a rush cremation or like a, you know, immediate cremation paper.
- 25:32What?
- 25:33Yeah.
- 25:33Tell me that's not suspect.
- 25:35Like, like, what the heck?
- 25:36Like, how would people even think that that's?
- 25:39Not suspect, right?
- 25:41So there was defensive wounds on her arms and her hands and like scratches, that would not have happened from a fall.
- 25:53Because the way that they were placed, right?
- 25:55There was a handprints.
- 25:57Um, there was no tox screen done other than an alcohol test.
- 26:04Like, why wouldn't a talk screen be done?
- 26:05Right.
- 26:06there was several rounds from the gun went off.
- 26:09There was shell casings found.
- 26:12It wasn't one, one shell.
- 26:13Oh.
- 26:14There were several rounds that went off.
- 26:17And where the shell casings and the pew pew was found.
- 26:22Yeah.
- 26:23I don't know if we're allowed to say it, but.
- 26:27It's so cute.
- 26:28where that was found in relation to where the, her body was found.
- 26:33there's no way that the water would have.
- 26:36Oh.
- 26:37So there, they, the, the, her family thinks that the body was placed.
- 26:41It's so cute.
- 26:42Where it was found.
- 26:44so none of it made sense.
- 26:45And then JP has a contact that owns the land right next to where she was.
- 26:51Yeah.
- 26:53So, you know, there was no witnesses like that.
- 26:55It was came in the car.
- 26:56There's no witness that her car was there.
- 26:58Yeah.
- 26:58but there was no witnesses that saw her there or saw her get there.
- 27:03so one of the theories is that she was taken in on this dude's land.
- 27:10Because it was just right there right there beside it and then transported over and she was that was done.
- 27:16Yeah, she was there, but, the way, according to the dad, this is all ledger late.
- 27:22Don't come for me.
- 27:23Yeah.
- 27:25Her hand was crushed.
- 27:26Like somebody was squeezing her hand, forcing her to move her hand to, to, to make them, to, to, to use the weapon.
- 27:33Right.
- 27:34the handprints, uh, bruising on her arms.
- 27:38So I don't know.
- 27:41There's so much more to this.
- 27:43So yeah, this is terrifying.
- 27:47Yeah.
- 27:48Especially because I keep going back to that phone call and our conversation about AR.
- 27:53And the thing of it is, is, is this guy, I mean, he's a pastor, but he's not like some huge famous person in the world that has access to do crazy stuff with technology.
- 28:05Like, he's just A dude.
- 28:08Mm hmm.
- 28:08A creepy dude.
- 28:09A creepy dude with a computer.
- 28:11So I touched on this last week, about the claims that he, groomed her.
- 28:16Yes.
- 28:17At the time she was younger.
- 28:17Yes.
- 28:18cause he was married before.
- 28:19Right.
- 28:19And had several children.
- 28:20Five, I think.
- 28:21Yeah.
- 28:22so all these other people are coming out.
- 28:24saying the same types of allegations and, I like the abuse and, you know, like corroborating, I think that's the word.
- 28:34Good job.
- 28:36Good job.
- 28:37the whole, scenarios, scenarios.
- 28:40Yeah.
- 28:41And then, tick tock did their thing and there's a picture, of the, the church leadership, that was on the website.
- 28:47They took the whole website down for the church.
- 28:50but in this picture, another guy that was in the leadership group was a registered essay of children.
- 29:02you got two creepy, like, nasty guys as leadership in this church.
- 29:08That is insane to me.
- 29:10Yeah.
- 29:10You would think that churches would vet this.
- 29:13So when, Brian and I used to help run youth football organization, and I would do the background check.
- 29:18Y'all did an amazing job.
- 29:21Thanks.
- 29:21It was a lot of fun.
- 29:22Side note.
- 29:23It was a lot of fun.
- 29:24But, but one of the things that I was tasked with, was to make sure all the paperwork was done for all the players and the coaches and, make sure that our insurance was up to date, all that kind of stuff.
- 29:33Well, including that.
- 29:34For the coaches was doing a background check and that included just, you know, criminal history, stuff like that.
- 29:41Not, you know, of course, not credit or anything like that, but, it may, it was not difficult.
- 29:46You plug in a name and a date of her and.
- 29:49You get the information back.
- 29:50You would think, and it wasn't expensive either.
- 29:53Yeah.
- 29:53there's a thousand websites I'm sure that offer this service that you can just go in and get your information that you've selected that you need for your, whatever your needs are.
- 30:01And it's crazy to me that that's not something that's regularly done.
- 30:06Yes.
- 30:06I think it was, I think that they were aware.
- 30:09Really?
- 30:10he took over the church and changed the church's name, I believe, if I remember correctly.
- 30:15The information, JP did but I am 99 percent sure that there was something down there that they made him go to like a counseling or something but the other dude too?
- 30:23Yeah.
- 30:24But like they, they were aware, whatever I, yeah, so it's just gross.
- 30:29we don't get into religion on this either, but, um, there is just so many instances of this that occurs.
- 30:37I went to Catholic school for high school and just had the worst experience, with the priest that ran our school.
- 30:44Okay.
- 30:44Bye.
- 30:44Bye now.
- 30:45Um, he came in, I think my junior year maybe, he hated females.
- 30:52he was, Evil, like he would tell us that we were going to hell if we like questioned anything and yeah we'll make the girls line up and kneel down to measure our skirts to see if our skirts were Longer than what the school allowed and I mean just like lined us up in front of the whole class Like I mean like it's all lined up Uh, and it was just that there's no sense in that.
- 31:11It was like abuse of power, you know, like the whole thing I just I have been very like cynical since then.
- 31:17Yeah.
- 31:18No, I agree and uh again we don't want to dig into it too much, but I When this came out too, I told Brian too, I was like, and you wonder why I don't trust most preachers or something like that.
- 31:27Like it's, I don't know.
- 31:28And there's plenty of good ones.
- 31:30There are.
- 31:30Um, I'm just, I know, I know.
- 31:33You know, some people don't trust doctors and I get that there's a lot of good ones and there's a lot of bad ones.
- 31:38So same thing.
- 31:39It's just seems to be more.
- 31:41I don't know.
- 31:42Yeah.
- 31:43Now, okay.
- 31:44Totally different topic, but kind of off of what you said.
- 31:47Okay.
- 31:48You mentioned, skirts being a certain length and dress code is what I'm assuming a dress code.
- 31:53How do you feel about there being a dress code?
- 31:55So boys aren't distracted because we're both moms of sons.
- 31:58Yes.
- 31:59I do think that there needs to be a dress code because there are a lot of very, um, Um, I don't know the right word to say it.
- 32:06I don't want to say like, Uh, okay.
- 32:10Let me say how I feel too.
- 32:11Okay.
- 32:11Okay.
- 32:12So I think that there should be a dress code because I think that we do need rules in this world.
- 32:16Right.
- 32:16I think that we should outside, wear whatever you want to, whatever you feel comfortable with.
- 32:22But I also feel like that if you're depends on the reason that you're wearing something, are you wearing it for attention?
- 32:28Are you wearing it because you feel good about yourself?
- 32:31I don't know.
- 32:31I just, and I'm not a mom of a daughter, so not me either.
- 32:34So we're as a mom of a son, I don't think that girls should dress to not distract boys.
- 32:42Correct.
- 32:42I 100 percent agree that guys should be able to control themselves.
- 32:46I think that they should be taught to control themselves, taught to keep their hands to themselves, unless it is all consensual.
- 32:52And there's a time and place for that.
- 32:53I mean, like the, the, the dress code for females should never be because males.
- 32:59Yes.
- 33:00Can't control them because they're animal Barb.
- 33:02That's right.
- 33:03What's the word?
- 33:03Barbaric.
- 33:04Yeah.
- 33:05Almost was going shaggy.
- 33:12Barbaric.
- 33:13Very good.
- 33:13Thank you.
- 33:14But yeah, I agree with you there.
- 33:16Like, I feel like there's no reason that I don't feel like they need to be coming in like booty shorts, like their butt hanging out or, you know, tops, so revealing that, but it's not because the quote boys are distracted.
- 33:28It is because I just thought they need to be covered up.
- 33:31Yeah.
- 33:32But like, when you go to work, you're going to have a dress code.
- 33:35You know what I mean?
- 33:35Like there's, yeah.
- 33:36In real life situations, there's dress codes.
- 33:38Yes.
- 33:38So, I don't feel like schools having dress codes is a problem.
- 33:42Mm hmm.
- 33:43I don't think that they should say it because the boys get distracted.
- 33:46Mm hmm.
- 33:46I think it's just a dress code.
- 33:47Mm hmm.
- 33:48Yeah, I agree.
- 33:50So I agree.
- 33:51it's crazy to me though, that schools have these, actually Clover High School does not have a dress code as far as I've heard.
- 33:59Oh, they used to.
- 34:01I don't know.
- 34:01I hadn't really looked into it, but people are like, there's no dress code.
- 34:03They wear whatever.
- 34:04Maybe there is and it's not enforced.
- 34:05Yeah, I think that's more.
- 34:06but it's funny to me the sports uniforms, like volleyball for instance, that very, very short shorts.
- 34:16Yeah, and that's okay.
- 34:19Mm hmm, but it's not for regular.
- 34:21Mm hmm.
- 34:22Yeah.
- 34:23My son, had his lacrosse banquet.
- 34:26Yeah.
- 34:27I was going to ask you about that.
- 34:28It was last week, right?
- 34:29Yeah.
- 34:29I dress to be comfortable.
- 34:32I don't dress up very much.
- 34:34you're lucky if I'm out of leggings.
- 34:37and Brandon is like very much like comfort.
- 34:40We've been working from home for five years.
- 34:42Like it's been sweatpants and leggings.
- 34:45Like, yeah, I get it.
- 34:47so like Brandon just had like.
- 34:49You know, Nike sweatpants or whatever and like a t shirt and I had, I did put on jeans and a tank then I had like a zip up hoodie with it and Dylan We saw what he was wearing.
- 35:00Black Athletic shorts and a long sleeve white shirt.
- 35:03Okay.
- 35:04Perfect.
- 35:05And like really dirty Crocs.
- 35:07And I was like, you where are the clean ones?
- 35:08Right.
- 35:09If you're going to do Crocs at least.
- 35:10Yeah.
- 35:10And he didn't even put them in sports mode.
- 35:13So we get there and everybody is dressed.
- 35:19Oh, really?
- 35:21We walked in there and I was like, Oh, whoops.
- 35:26Like dress up like business casual, I mean, like, like a lot of like the women were in like Dresses and a lot of the men who are, you know, keeps glitching, but it's still recording.
- 35:37Yeah, we're good Men were like in either slacks or like, you know khakis or lower.
- 35:41So yeah There was like one other to one or two other kids that were like not super dressy But they all had on collared shirts and I'm like Dylan did they send out something saying dress code?
- 35:49Yeah, and he's like, I don't know they're lucky I came I love it.
- 35:54I love it.
- 35:54Like, oh my lord.
- 35:57I love it.
- 35:57That's funny.
- 35:58So we were very underdressed.
- 36:01Yeah, those things are iffy though.
- 36:03Like, I always try to get Jackson to dress up for like end of the year things or stuff.
- 36:08And by dress up, I mean not athletic shorts.
- 36:11Yeah.
- 36:11And a collar shirt or a nicer graphic shirt, whatever that's not faded and has holes in it.
- 36:18Yeah.
- 36:19And probably still the Crocs.
- 36:20Yeah.
- 36:22That's funny.
- 36:23All right.
- 36:23You want to do, um, Am I the?
- 36:25Am I the acorn?
- 36:26Yes.
- 36:27Okay, this is actually a good one.
- 36:28I saved like several of them so that we had like just in case.
- 36:32Okay.
- 36:32So this is the thread and the comment section didn't have enough like one way or the other.
- 36:43Okay.
- 36:43Like for like the vote to be that they are or not.
- 36:46Yeah.
- 36:46Okay.
- 36:47But I had very strong feelings on this.
- 36:49Okay.
- 36:51So it says, am I the a hole?
- 36:53I will keep this as short as possible.
- 36:56The family has a code word that means to meet up at my house because there is bad news.
- 37:01So, emergency family meeting.
- 37:03This is something that is extremely rare and it means to drop what you are doing and get over as soon as possible.
- 37:11It is only an invite for the kids.
- 37:13No in laws are invited.
- 37:15This was discussed and agreed upon by everyone.
- 37:19This was due to everyone being most comfortable with sharing bad news with their siblings and parents and not having to be polite with the in laws.
- 37:27For example, my daughter used the code word and it was an emergency family meeting.
- 37:31She was getting divorced and needed help after everyone fills in their spouses, but not with all the nitty gritty details.
- 37:38This happened today.
- 37:39An emergency meeting was called for my husband.
- 37:42In short, he needs surgery.
- 37:43I won't go into more than that.
- 37:46Everyone left and I got a call from my daughter in law.
- 37:48Upset that she wasn't invited to the meeting.
- 37:51I asked if she knew what these were, and she told me that my son had explained it.
- 37:57She reiterated that she should still be invited, and I am excluding her.
- 38:02That she is upset and expects an invite next time.
- 38:05I told her that her feelings Aren't my problem.
- 38:09And for F's sake, you don't need to be invited to everything.
- 38:15She called me a jerk.
- 38:16My son told me he will deal with it, but I could have been nicer.
- 38:20Is she the a hole?
- 38:22Ah, she gave a lot of information there, but I would want more.
- 38:27Okay.
- 38:27I want to know how long have they been married.
- 38:30Okay.
- 38:30Are they married a year or they've been married 20 years?
- 38:34Cause my other thing is, is the son good about relaying information?
- 38:38I'm assuming it's a son.
- 38:39Yes.
- 38:40To his wife.
- 38:41Like Brian forgets to tell me everything.
- 38:44but okay.
- 38:45In this situation.
- 38:47I don't think she is.
- 38:48I don't think so either.
- 38:49And,'cause that's the rule.
- 38:51Right.
- 38:52And if that was, uh, already known and she said she knew right.
- 38:55What it was.
- 38:56Yeah.
- 38:56I, I don't think that she needs to be there.
- 38:59It sounds like she maybe doesn't get along with the mom and the mom.
- 39:02There's already that too in there.
- 39:03I I, I don't think she is.
- 39:06Uh, right.
- 39:06I think that the daughter-in-law is because she's making this horrible s situation, but she she's about her.
- 39:12About her, yeah.
- 39:12Yeah.
- 39:13Which adds stress to her husband, it adds stress to the family, and it's causing conflict.
- 39:18Yes.
- 39:18So, I think I'm 100 percent with you.
- 39:22But, like I said, I do want to know if they've been Have they been married a long time?
- 39:27Mm hmm.
- 39:28Almost if you've, if you've been married almost as long as like, so Brian and I got married 26.
- 39:34We've been married 26 years.
- 39:36I feel like that we've, I've been married longer than I'm not.
- 39:40So I'm part of that family longer than I was in my, so I should be included.
- 39:44You know what I'm saying?
- 39:44I get that.
- 39:45I, Think, and I don't know the situation.
- 39:47Right, right, right, right.
- 39:48people who are debating in the comments, um, like, you know, how many children are there?
- 39:53Is it like true?
- 39:54Are there 12 kids?
- 39:55Yeah.
- 39:55does everybody get along?
- 39:57Like, does all the in in-laws get along?
- 39:59Like, you know, if you have, like with that kind of dynamic Yeah.
- 40:02It already sounds like there's some tension.
- 40:04Mm-Hmm.
- 40:04And so does a sister not get along with the wife?
- 40:06Right.
- 40:07So there might be, or does the, does the.
- 40:11Husband who needs surgery not get along with this daughter in law too.
- 40:14I mean that could be worse than that Like, you know, is it what kind of surgery is it?
- 40:18Is it something like kind of embarrassing, you know, like that?
- 40:20He doesn't you know want everybody to have to be there for the for the news drop.
- 40:27Yeah and if this has been in place this whole time, right.
- 40:30They've been married, then like, and even before they were married.
- 40:33Yeah.
- 40:33So it sounds like that this has already been used and everybody was okay with it.
- 40:38That's curious too, that everybody was okay with it.
- 40:41The time before it worsened, but for this situation, she's getting a little, it sounds like new or I don't know.
- 40:49Yeah, that or there's.
- 40:51Already some drama there, and she's trying to I think there's some stuff going on there.
- 40:55Yeah, so The the comment section was like very split I was surprised because I you know immediately was like no yeah, this is it like this is like family rules Are you like me too?
- 41:06Like you're a rule follower.
- 41:08of course Well, because I, things are black and white for me, like I very rarely have, I mean, I've, as I've gotten older, like things are more gray, but like, I'm a, this is, these are the rules and it doesn't serve me well because people who break the rules typically come out better with all kinds of things, but, Yeah.
- 41:25So, uh, this is the rule and this is what we're doing.
- 41:28Yeah.
- 41:28So, what, I'm curious to know, what were they saying?
- 41:31Why did they think that the daughter in law should not?
- 41:33Well, because she's in the family and why are, why are the in laws being excluded?
- 41:38Yeah.
- 41:39Like they already made that clear.
- 41:43The only thing that I could see that might be different in this situation than others on why she might need to be included is if she would be expected to help take care of.
- 41:52Agreed.
- 41:52And that would be a different situation like we're including her because she's going to be one of the caretakers post op or whatever.
- 41:59Her husband's getting surgery.
- 42:01And then this chick is Making it about her and her feelings of not being included in a already known, right?
- 42:09Dynamic.
- 42:10Yeah, that's another one.
- 42:11Okay, let's go.
- 42:13Okay.
- 42:14We agree on that one.
- 42:15The mom is not, but the daughter in law is.
- 42:17Yes.
- 42:17so yeah, let us know in the comments.
- 42:21What you think is, what, what are your thoughts on that one?
- 42:25Everybody let us know.
- 42:26Yeah, but I do like this, um, Am I the A hole segment.
- 42:30I want to keep doing that.
- 42:32I did save one more.
- 42:33Okay.
- 42:33And I don't know if this is gonna make the podcast, but we will see.
- 42:37Okay.
- 42:39This one, you know, there's a lot of family drama, like Yeah.
- 42:42As you can tell.
- 42:44Yeah.
- 42:44Am I the, a-hole for telling my sister-in-Law?
- 42:46Her pregnancy announcement was jarring.
- 42:52Lemme clear my throat for this one.
- 42:55Okay, so a little background.
- 42:56My husband and I, 28 female, 32 male, have been together and married for 9 years.
- 43:02We have You see, I already like all this background.
- 43:05Yes.
- 43:05Okay, go ahead.
- 43:06Details.
- 43:07We just welcomed our baby girl last July, the first grandbaby of both families.
- 43:12Everyone was thrilled.
- 43:13Our baby receives a lot of attention from my husband's parents since we live around the corner from them.
- 43:19I have a sister in law, Cammie, 26.
- 43:22She loves kids and has voiced how much she would love a baby.
- 43:26Cammie and her boyfriend have some issues.
- 43:29They always complain to her parents about how they can never afford things Leaving my in laws to foot the bill, such as a new lawnmower, getting their dog spayed, patio furniture, and a vacation to Mexico.
- 43:41Huh.
- 43:41Hmm.
- 43:44There are a couple of people that have voiced concerns about them starting a family.
- 43:48Her dad, my father in law, has been adamant.
- 43:51About her boyfriend getting serious about their relationship first, putting a ring on it, before they think about having a child.
- 43:58Cammie agreed, but stated that it will be a little while before they get married because it's expensive.
- 44:04She sounds like she's digging for some money.
- 44:06Uh huh.
- 44:06To me.
- 44:06Agreed.
- 44:08Her sister, my sister in law, has been hearing up and down about their issues and fights.
- 44:14It seems every other week they are split up for a day or two before reconnecting.
- 44:19We hardly see Cammie's boyfriend as they usually get into a fight before she makes a trip over to where we live.
- 44:25So, he doesn't come with her.
- 44:27A couple of months ago, Cammie asked me what I thought of her having a baby since she was pregnant.
- 44:32Lonely at home.
- 44:34I did not lie.
- 44:35I said I didn't think it was the best idea since her boyfriend is hardly around both Workwise and emotionally plus they have been together for a little over a year.
- 44:47So not very long Skip to last week.
- 44:50Kami comes to visit with her boyfriend She gathers all of us at the table for a family photo and before her boy before taking the photo her boyfriend says Say, Cammie's pregnant as he takes a video.
- 45:06Her sister, with a straight face, says, Is this a joke?
- 45:10Her father frowns through his smile and looks down at the ground.
- 45:14My husband shakes his head and walks away.
- 45:17I put on a huge smile and say, Oh my gosh, congratulations! We all gather ourselves up to wish her congratulations, but there is clearly bad, bad hmm.
- 45:28She doesn't notice.
- 45:30Cammy, upon reviewing the video, texted me very upset that her announcement video was a dud with her family, and the family was not supportive.
- 45:39She was upset, stating, how could everyone be so excited for me and not for her?
- 45:43I told her that everyone might not be super excited at first, and that's okay.
- 45:48It's a bit jarring to hear this news.
- 45:51Cammy then calls me, Cammy name calls me and her family a bunch of a holes who don't respect her decision as a grown woman.
- 46:01Am I the a hole for telling her the pregnancy wasn't exactly what wanted by everyone, or does she deserve the flack?
- 46:11So, I feel like I've said it first every time.
- 46:13What do you think?
- 46:14I don't think she's the a hole.
- 46:16I think she said it very nicely.
- 46:17I think that Well, and she, that, that she wanted to know.
- 46:22Like she came to her and she was like, nobody's excited.
- 46:24Well, you sound to me like you went off conversation.
- 46:26I don't think she came to hear the truth.
- 46:29She wanted to be like, Oh, yeah.
- 46:32Oh my gosh.
- 46:32I can't believe.
- 46:33So she went to the wrong person.
- 46:35To get the response that she wanted.
- 46:37I think that All those details are huge red flags.
- 46:42Yeah, and no no no no I Can understand the family?
- 46:54Be having the reaction.
- 46:56Mm hmm, especially if they've already voiced all these opinions, right?
- 46:59It sounds like she's been trying to almost talk them into this for a while And I'm sorry, huge red flag if the boyfriend is causing fights or like you guys are getting into fights before any family event, that is huge red flags.
- 47:15you're going alone, you're going upset.
- 47:17You're then, you know, telling, which rightfully so like you talk to your siblings, right.
- 47:21And of course they're going to take your side, obviously.
- 47:24Yeah so you're going to your family, you're telling them all this, drama.
- 47:29He's not showing up.
- 47:30Right.
- 47:31I mean, I'm sorry.
- 47:32red flags.
- 47:33Yeah.
- 47:33A hundred percent.
- 47:34Yeah.
- 47:34She, I wouldn't, if that was my sister, I would have been like, or sister in law, whatever.
- 47:39Uh, I don't think that this is what you need to do.
- 47:41I don't know.
- 47:41And like before when she was like, I don't have a baby, I would have been like, it's not going to fix the problem.
- 47:46Oh, and then she said that she wanted to have a baby because she was lonely or right.
- 47:49And so that's not a reason to have a baby.
- 47:51That's not gonna fix anything.
- 47:52No, it's just going to make you sleep deprived.
- 47:54Yes.
- 47:54And, and yes.
- 47:56All the hormones and emotions.
- 47:59resentment to the baby daddy.
- 48:01No.
- 48:03I don't think she is.
- 48:04I think she, I think she was very nice.
- 48:07I think so too.
- 48:08She said it in a way.
- 48:10Right.
- 48:12So let's, you know, let's, let's say that she was a little bit harsher with her words.
- 48:16I still don't.
- 48:17Yeah.
- 48:18I mean, I don't know.
- 48:20Yeah.
- 48:20So, in the comment section, it said that she obviously she was not, um, but again, we're getting her perspective.
- 48:30Right.
- 48:31And her side of it.
- 48:32And she's not gonna make herself sound like horrible, but if she was like, You know, yeah, I want to see this video that they shared with, uh, the, uh, I'm sorry.
- 48:39I'm pointing to your phone.
- 48:40The announcement where they recorded her saying, and you know what?
- 48:46She says she's 26.
- 48:47She sounds like somebody who's everything is on social media and she wanted this cute little video to post and make her life better than everybody else's.
- 48:57Because that's what all social media is Most a lot of it is, you know, we're better than than you because here's our little happy video.
- 49:04Yeah I saw the funniest thing on facebook the other day It's speaking of the social media fake world whatever but it said that in school they had us all Separated by like the super smart kids were in like the class G, whatever they call it now.
- 49:19and then you have like the regular kids and then like the, the lower right classes.
- 49:29and there's a, you have all of us separated, all of high school.
- 49:32Now you have us all on one platform.
- 49:33This is the problem.
- 49:34This is the problem.
- 49:35You should have kept us separated.
- 49:36We were fine.
- 49:37No, I'm just kidding.
- 49:39So, I was like, oh, there's something to that.
- 49:42Cause I was not in the, I was like in the partying class.
- 49:49That's so funny.
- 49:50My school, like my high school.
- 49:52We I think like 60 kids graduated in my class.
- 49:54Yeah.
- 49:54And, it was like the super smart kids.
- 49:57Yeah.
- 49:59And then the partiers.
- 50:00Now, I didn't stay with the super smart kids for long.
- 50:03Like, I phased out of that real fast.
- 50:06Like, I realized I was not an overachiever like they were.
- 50:08So, I could only stay so long, but.
- 50:10Well, I like doing the, um, the M I the A also.
- 50:13Yeah, I really like that.
- 50:14So we're going to keep that up, we'll do that next week when we'll do our book, that I mentioned, which was First Lie Wins.
- 50:20Yes.
- 50:21And, I think we have one more segment.
- 50:23Oh, whatever celebrity stuff happens.
- 50:25We'll talk about it.
- 50:26You'll need some more updates on, on our case.
- 50:29Yeah.
- 50:29that one, that one.
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