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Are Buccaneers A Trap Game For Chicago Bears? · Da Windy City Sports Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: week nine, week nine, week nine, here at the Wendy City podcast, present it by the inside it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have Alex Piro right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can of Davis and we have come in back back to the crib.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, back to the lake.
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[SPEAKER_01]: used to be in a sea central.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They used to be bad, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Old friend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got good physical therapy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They moved them to the NFC South, but they didn't do that to the Cowboys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's the discussion for another day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got the Tampa Bay Book and there's three and five coming to soldier field face to bear six and two Sunday night on NBC.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If we were still working for NBC, we probably be talking to somebody right now from NBC.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We probably talking to Tony Dungey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say that, but he's no longer we would have gotten my talking to Chris Sims.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We definitely got some Chris Sims in by now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there are many of Chris Sims attractive, but hey, it was cool with us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, it's a great guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, I'm just about the people that don't like them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not us as well, John said to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Personally, great dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We always really enjoyed talking with him very generous every time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a good time with him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's for the haters, the sims haters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we got the bears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got two of the best rushing teams in in their field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, we got the bears taking on the Tampa Bay books here in Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're looking at Tampa, who bludgeoned the Atlanta Falcons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And how rages game you talking about in a two good Russian teams, the buck in years for folks who have not been following the buck in years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One NFL game last week without completing a pass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Baker may field was O for three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and the Buccaneers won by two scores.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is outrageous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They rush for 324 yards in a 16 to 0 shut out of the Falcons last week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're often so long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have a situation now if our new guy and Jeffrey Sim is going up against a third-year player, Graham Bart, who's making
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[SPEAKER_01]: for those two running backs down there, Bucky Irvin and Gainwell, who are just doing what our running backs with both of them were healthy or doing up here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what do you think right there, starting off with the rushing attacks?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And also this is of course, I wonder, and the fact that with Tampa, they have also a mecca booka is returning from foot injury I believe this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would hope, I would not hope, but the passing game should be better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, it was a
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[SPEAKER_01]: They may get him one, they may get one, they may get one, but your thoughts on one, the books trying to outgain the bears on the ground.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One thing that I've been interested in I was thinking about too is now, particularly depending on if games, if teams have good defenses, we're gonna have to start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna probably begin to see teams trying to take the ball out of Caleb Williams' hands by rushing the ball and trying to flip the time of possession with the bears
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[SPEAKER_00]: absolutely completely agree kind of that is like super sharp and that is probably what opposing teams are going to do because the bears have been just dominant in terms of time and possession that's been incredible the way they've been able to control the ball control the clock keep their defense fresh keep their offense on the field been masterful now
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Buccaneers, if we were having this discussion a month ago, we'd be talking about like Cakewalk, don't even worry about this bad boy being a trap game, because they started over four, uh, Owen for rather, Baker Mayfield was hurt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But since that first month, they've actually been super solid going 3 and 1 since then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they have really turned things around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, the key has been bucky Irving in that rushing attack.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you when you talk about it, I personally believe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: this is going to come down to can the bears run the ball against a very good bucks defense a front again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have no reason to believe they won't because they've had success against very good defenses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and then I also have no reason to believe that they won't be able to bottle up buckier every because they've bottled up, everybody else they faced, they have faced much better running backs and done pretty darn good against them, but but so like I'm talking about this like maybe it is a trap game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it is a trap game, but I think Ben Johnson will have
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[SPEAKER_00]: the guy's head screwed on straight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like in the past, this would have trapped game written all over it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think with the Jeffrey Simmons edition, the wing that the bears, like it's Super Bowl or bust.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Super Bowl or bust.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're going to be taking this game seriously, knowing it's an NFC North race that is tight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think they're going to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They should win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not going to
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it will be a beat down, but but when you talk about Bucky Irving, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not being the key for the box really to win this game like do Jeffrey Simmons come on Like the bear's got Jeffrey Simmons now, so like all right cool Bucky Irving I don't think you're gonna go for a hundred yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're gonna be fine and just listen to this before I kick it back to you Kenneth listen to this in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers three wins
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bucky Irving has had 170 yards, 106 yards, and 165 yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In their 1, 2, 3, 4, and their 5 losses, Bucky Irving has had 46 yards, 61 yards, 46 yards, 89 yards, and 45 yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If the bears can hold Bucky Irving, under 100 yards, they've got a dang good chance of winning that football game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And everything I've seen from this team, from this defense, the one game sample size with Jeffrey Simmons, I think they're going to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's just, I think the bears should have no props.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll definitely do my prediction in a minute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll only push back because everything you said I think is legit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, last week, just looking at the small sample size we've had a Jeffrey sent us here in Chicago, last week, you were rushing against a team that lost the Super Bowl MVP.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's running game hasn't really been working well for the Seattle Sea Hawks, a team that is built for the run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it probably has got to be in a JT trade.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've taken with the coats, um, because they need to running back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so my only pushback right now would be the best rushing team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: facing the bears, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and again, I haven't seen now this year, we said this early in the year, the rushing defense has been better than it was last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So proud of Jefferson is getting there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They weren't as poor as as they were last season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, Beezion, they bottle up, say, Juan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But also, and this is another thing what will probably, and I bet you if we go back and look at those teams that beat the bucks, they're probably teams that can score a lot of points because that's how you bottle of be John you get his ass off the field because one you hold on to the ball and then you throw that score so far out there you make white micro pinnicks in that often is one dimensional.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, I definitely see that happening, but it's just, I'm interested in seeing the difference in this running defensive attack that the Bears have with Dennis Island with the addition of Jeffrey Simmons because even though you saw against one of the better football teams last week, I want to see him against one of, well, right now statistically the best rushing team, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Bears will win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think to a degree handily,
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[SPEAKER_01]: they should win, you know what I'm saying, but I'm interested in just seeing and also the trap game part.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I like the fact that you say that, I don't believe at this point in the season because of Jeffrey Simmons edition, they can actually even fall into it because he's going to be too high trying to prove why he's here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's I think it'd be hard for them and also they're all kind of you saw it with the defense with with bush hitting Sam Darnot last week and some of the great year antics they're all playing they're all too hyped in a good way, you know what I'm saying they're too hyped.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so I don't think that that hype is going to go down to a point where at this point of trap game, I think a trap came to happen, maybe in my center to happen in the second half of the season, but also because it could just be a loss that we claim as a trap game, because it seemed we don't expect to look at the bears to lose to just any game of something that you could lose.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, one day and again, it can be closed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Clio, let me go out there and have a bad game at throw two or three pits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not going with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it could happen and that could be where they have an ill. Clearly, chances of them go up through the remainder of the year without any losses are slim.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see them getting any more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like true, but they're like, it's slim.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you just do this, don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see that happening on the Lakefront.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, you have the first, the best rushing team and the bears right now as a second, respectively.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But also when you look at the rushing differentials,
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[SPEAKER_01]: that they both have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have 799 yards of differential for the books and the bears are a 512, but just think about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That books are almost 200 yards better when it comes to the differential.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I don't believe they're going to beat the bears, but I am excited to see what this new bear's front does, particularly also Alex,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the things that you used to have to do to shut down the run, part of even having that nickel back place so close to the line was beneficial in right so it's going to I'm looking it's interesting to see what Dennis Allen does that he has this toy is this this toy and again it's a grown man I'm not he's not a toy but this is for this is like if you ever had something like I don't know whatever generation you ever let's play for me like a transformer right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This would be like not just having the base that transform, this would be the planet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's the type of tool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you know, I'm like expensive those toys where this is like a Christmas perfe, you know what I'm saying where you get this new one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like these and that's it would be interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're getting you're getting the uh the auto oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why can't I not do it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's septicons and other decepticons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are the good guys?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The auto auto boss?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, auto boss.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really disappointed about you're getting the decepticons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and the Autobots.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so an interesting thing is seeing now how, in the past within this island had to do because he didn't have this great player, how he uses him against a team where rushing is their key attack again, I think, expert for them and whether that's that's my interesting point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also just seeing, and again, Jeffrey Simmons, I was a huge Tennessee Titans fan growing up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was a
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[SPEAKER_01]: course you had you had warm moon and I love Steve McNair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I followed him since Alcorn to the Orlers and then of course with the move.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to go to school in Tennessee at Nashville and I was going to enjoy going into some Titans game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I loved Eddie George.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm saying this all to say I ain't been paying attention to what the hell Tennessee been doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like I know Jeffrey Simmons, I know that Jesse Jeffrey Simmons has been one of the best
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm interested in, like, how?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, turn on that Titan's game, like, but no, but not a pro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I mean, it wasn't the flavor for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I look, I'll even go go to when they were kind of good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't never believe in the Ryan Tanner here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What I look like, believe in this Ryan Tanner here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, now I think realistic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But an art of the Ryan Tanner held Derek Henry teams were.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those Derek, are it teams?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I threw Derek Henry in there for a reason.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know that that part.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the thing where I'm interested in seeing that Again, you got a really good defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you got a really good defense and you got some really good corners in Zion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a column in Jacob parish That you could have going up against these bears receivers But again, I mean who can stop Kayla real question that old person could stop Kayla name his initials a C
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cable is the only person that can stop whatever the hell he's doing because he's on time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I really, I'm gonna tell y'all something and this is arrogance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I low-key think they'd be listened to by our calves because I feel like this business stop playing around, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Things that I've complained to you about, like holding the ball for no damn reason, holding the ball and rushing out of bounds, get rid of the ball so you don't get it going out of bounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He knows that we love him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he listens to us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, this is me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what delusion is called every night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is delusion and it's so firm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, no, this is what it's just looking at something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's so many times here and you notice I was talking to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've watched football and it's like, okay, you guys are better than this than us because you get paid to do it, but it doesn't seem like you know fundamentally what to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we've gone through this from coast to coast to coast where now it seems like, again, even if there's a mistake, let's button this up and that's what makes this,
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[SPEAKER_01]: seeing again when you said it's a super bowl of buzz.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't, that makes it so not far-fetched, you know, it's so realistic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm saying the face-stay healthy, which again is eye being someone who has rooted for this team here in the North.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is wild.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is wild.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, let's just underline a few more things about the Buccaneers and why this matchup is interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though we both think that this is gonna be a handy bears win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, we've talked about the defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Buccaneer's defense is very good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody is very familiar with a Vita Vaya.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vita Vaya.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but they got the new guy Ruben
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kenneth reminded me before we started Alex Alzaloneh and Zaloneh who we all know from the lions he was a man's cover you're and he will cover all of the middle of the field all right menace menace um and then a guide that we were really interested coming out of the draft collage of cancey who is like Aaron Donald light he ain't he ain't Aaron Donald light
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[SPEAKER_00]: which route was such a debate, that was such a debate, it was such a debate, but you know he's he's put together some nice games and he's very similar a small small defense of Lyman, who's just like those modities, kind of like this, a kind of like the small DTs, they got a good leverage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the six four ones from Mississippi State.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're great too, they're great too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, but you know, college of can't see like he's had some moments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's there's talent on that defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I'm just going to go through a game by game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These guys are not slouches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have not given up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: huge points in their losses because their offense was so out of kilter week one to give up a ton of points to the bangles, but the bangles have been great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 33 points then okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is what they've given up this is what they've given up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they've surrendered 33 points to the bangles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Browns are the Browns and we do they give up 23 points and they give up 23 points to the Vikings on the 17 points to the Packers on the 16 points to the Cowboys who have had a great offense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 26 points to the Steelers in overtime, 13 points to the Panthers, and then they shut out the falcons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like they're given up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like practically all of those games are 24 points are under with, you know, an overtime game and like a blowout in a week one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like the team has been good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the thing that run defense, like the bear's just got done with
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[SPEAKER_00]: where they got some gritty, grimy yards, and the efficiency numbers were poor, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Andre Swift under three yards of carry, I think, but they got it done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The, the Buccaneers are right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Buccaneers are right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They are tied for fourth best in the NFL, giving up 3.6 yards per carry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you say it's going to be Caleb Williams and Caleb Williams can beat them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb Williams can beat them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it might be another gritty grimy running game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we might see, you know, Caleb Williams
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we've seen him do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Time and time again and he can do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just saying, you know, like, I think it would be, there'd be, there's some hubris involved if you're thinking the bears are going to win this game 40 to 14.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's, um, I think there's second and fourth with the second, even if there's the bears of fourth or the bears of seventh and the bucks are second with overall defense I believe at this point to go to your point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's still no slouch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're decently coach even though I think this probably would be top bowls last season because they haven't done anything when in the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's been a stopgap, but when it comes to getting back on your high horses, they were as Tom Brady is their quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you've been looking to switch and they didn't really want to pay Baker this off season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they had to pay him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, the bugs are in, listen, the bugs are kind of in a way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: are they're not in purgatory because their defense is good in their Russian attack is good, but if you're really talking about them being a championship team, I mean, they're going to either have to, they're going to have to get a new coach and they're going to have to get another quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you start worrying about the age of the lick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, look, okay, speaking of DTs, we were on here talking about send us Vivaia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't want to do what you got to do with Vivaia prior to see us at start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're talking about a team that has some young parts we talked about Barton.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about those cornerbacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, even if you look at as alone, he's not a, this is his third team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the two teams prior to that, he wasn't just there for a year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't say it so, right, they've got a team that's aging and you got to figure out which way you want to go and you know, that's also probably what there was some type of hesitation outside of maybe because he's plateaued and you know how far I can take you and resound in Baker because And your heart, heart, you know you got to flip this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We know what I'm saying, but lucky for the bears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, we ain't living that life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Tom, go get that ass because I mean, it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And unlike again, goes back to your necessarily being a trap game where past coaches it could have been, expectations changing, it stops it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, I'm gonna tell you how far the delusion goes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: who next year, how healthy they're going to be after winning the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How many players I really don't want to steal and go after us some more because they got to get two of them during this rain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, we got to fix those contracts and maybe in about two more years we come back get some more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As the baby goat mantle has been taken off of patching my whole patch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I gave it to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I should take this off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I should hold it now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It will not both
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I will hold it in weight until I place it to pawn CW, all right, but yeah, I mean, that and the game is that's how reckless and fun and true for all of the stuff is like we're still an unfairness and I think we'll do it after the game is we we still really haven't gone full of gore and so it's crazy as hell to Jeff resources here and like they didn't go like it all fairness look we would have been both us would have been happy if they got the force bucking
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because at the time, nobody used to think, nobody used to, it would have been great, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It would have been great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's still would have been some questions about the type of different smaker, Defors Buckner is at this point in his career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, in our fairness, even at his best,
21:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And even the best seasons of the fours of Buckner, I don't know if he was as good as Jeffrey Simmons and why he's still in his best seasons.
21:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
21:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the fours of Buckner was definitely a top five defeat D.T.
21:24
[SPEAKER_01]: easily, you know what I'm saying?
21:26
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know if you ever said he was, but he was never, he was never, he was never Donald, Donald, Aaron Donald.
21:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
21:33
[SPEAKER_01]: It was clear who number one was at during that Aaron Donald's reign.
21:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was some others.
21:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It's unfair to compare anybody to Aaron Donald that guy was I hope you know on you absolutely monster Okay, I agree with you, but the schism between Jeffrey Simmons and the next D.T.
21:51
[SPEAKER_01]: It's quite why it may not be Aaron down a while, but it is still He's quite why so to think about and then the bears in the past outside of course Going to get you a little MacBook, but man, because you've got Aaron though, but um
22:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know the bad thing about the Kaleo Mac Air being a we was on the Kaleo Mac side.
22:12
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like Get that man.
22:13
[SPEAKER_01]: We got Kaleo Mac
22:15
[SPEAKER_01]: and Donald is actually better than him.
22:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's inside the interior and he's on the side.
22:21
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, er, Donald is, again, what you, he is crazy.
22:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, it's unfortunate he came back.
22:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I kind of want to just like, it's like, he came back and maybe he'll work himself into some to a better shape.
22:32
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, you take those years off.
22:34
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, we still have a feasted properly on the fact that the bears have the best offensive tackle in football.
22:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is a wild time, this is a crazy time to be someone that roofs for a team with the bears logo on us or see rather But you give it to see us for but yeah, this is this is crazy Alex and I mean I'm I'm loving it to say to least you look in that we mentioned and Zalone and how he'll try to cover the I wasn't going to say the Titans, but I guess I should just say coast and love when Because now we got right now was the time You don't believe it.
23:08
[SPEAKER_01]: He has to show it.
23:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if, again, you know what you think Carlson being activated from the practice one to the active one.
23:14
[SPEAKER_01]: You should have led with that.
23:15
[SPEAKER_01]: You should have done that.
23:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we talk about it.
23:18
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but the thing with this, all right, if we see how,
23:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Ben Johnson and how he's brought his rookies along, it's all is been the same format.
23:28
[SPEAKER_01]: He really just gives it takes a minute.
23:30
[SPEAKER_01]: He spoon feeds them and if they showed that they can grasp it, he gives them more, which most teams do, but we've seen the pattern here with the real prominent offensive rookies that he's brought in since he's been the head coach of the Chicago Bears.
23:42
[SPEAKER_01]: So I believe Ben knows what he's looking at, I believe him in the collaboration with Ryan Polls.
23:48
[SPEAKER_01]: He definitely thinks there's something that he sees in Sam Rauch, particularly with his size and his ability.
23:54
[SPEAKER_01]: But right now, it isn't translated into that on NFL feel.
23:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, it does cause the bears need, the bears need to be able to go out there and play 12.
24:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, you know, I'm saying like there's going to be gay like it's great and I know that you saw them to Troy is great that we have these receivers that get out there and blocking you have to own business teams, but still sometimes man, you need big dudes out there to just we talked about it known that post game, the flipping of co commit and a coast and love on how often you would see that happen on run place.
24:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And you don't have that, and if you see that, that was this but an essential part of Ben Johnson's run offense and they, Sam Ross needs to come alone.
24:31
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's also the heart, one of the hardest parts of transitioning to the NFL for tight ends is the inline blocker.
24:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's why it's one of the hardest positions to make that leap from college to the NFL notoriously.
24:49
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like D.T., where it's basically like, all right, there's your gap.
24:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Go get him.
24:53
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what's about to say.
24:54
[SPEAKER_01]: That's your gap.
24:56
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, if it's if he goes on the ball, go get him.
24:59
[SPEAKER_01]: It's breakdown if you don't know what the run-a-bex do, but that's the gap right there.
25:02
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
25:03
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, right, no.
25:04
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and if they let you straight in, run to one of the edges because it's a screen.
25:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, exactly.
25:11
[SPEAKER_00]: You will have a place that's been blocked.
25:12
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
25:25
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so what's the spread?
25:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it three and a half or is it three still three and a half?
25:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's let's kick the numbers out.
25:32
[SPEAKER_00]: There's Buccaneers.
25:35
[SPEAKER_00]: The birth spread.
25:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
25:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what I'm seeing right here.
25:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Six and a half point favorites.
25:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Basically a touchdown.
25:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
25:57
[SPEAKER_00]: We lost Kenneth.
25:58
[SPEAKER_00]: He's muted.
25:59
[SPEAKER_00]: He's he was so stunned.
26:02
[SPEAKER_00]: He was so stunned.
26:03
[SPEAKER_00]: His microphone just shut off six and I think the court is something's wrong with the court.
26:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So I saw I think there was a yes me and I thought I earlier and I was like, that's wow.
26:14
[SPEAKER_01]: because this isn't the bear's going up against Seattle.
26:17
[SPEAKER_01]: This should be, this should almost be a touchdown.
26:21
[SPEAKER_01]: If you look at how the bear's a plan.
26:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's, yeah, that's reasonable.
26:24
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's a good one.
26:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think the bear's can, I think the bear's can cover that.
26:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And from being honest with you, because I don't think Tampa can pass, like only way Tampa can get closed, man, that time of possession has to be crazy.
26:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would mean the bears running, but it's not going to be able to stop the road.
26:40
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
26:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's the only way Tampa has a chance.
26:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, hey, I can be, I've listened.
26:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I made a several apologies during this season.
26:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And I will all come on here and tell y'all I'm wrong because I'm a human being.
26:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll see you happening.
26:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So at the end of y'all going to say I changed them.
26:57
[SPEAKER_01]: But I see I'll see you happening.
26:59
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, the bears don't kick their ass, man.
27:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, again, good.
27:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to make it my lock of the week, where do you know about that?
27:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lock.
27:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I know I just said it's not going to be a 40 to 10 victory or whatever I said earlier.
27:13
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to be that bad, but like 27 to 17 sure.
27:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say you just hit, I was going to say it's going to be close to the last week's school.
27:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And you just hit, I was going to say 17 is the max I give them.
27:26
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm saying like for real, I give them two touchdowns in a field goal.
27:30
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like maybe because it may be like four field goals is like
27:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I give it because it man.
27:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
27:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see it and you have it.
27:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you have it now also you have one of the best third down defensive in the bears and now we got to see how it plays out how many more often more times they're in third and long because of the addition to Jeffrey.
28:03
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm gonna go with bears.
28:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna go with the bears hit 30 and I'm gonna go with that the bucks I want to say stay in the teens.
28:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna go with that.
28:13
[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be how I feel listening It's almost time and even though it's almost time to start pulling guys again I know we they didn't have to put them back in but also this is that you're gonna understand And I know when it comes to the spread and y'all putting your money on the show when you don't want to think to mess that up
28:28
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a rest for the Super Bowl.
28:30
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
28:31
[SPEAKER_01]: We got to be fresh for the show.
28:33
[SPEAKER_00]: There could be a bucks backdoor cover.
28:35
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a great call.
28:36
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a great call, Kenneth.
28:38
[SPEAKER_00]: A bucks backdoor cover against the twos.
28:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, wouldn't that be dirty?
28:43
[SPEAKER_01]: When the, hey, it's something, not even, you, you, we have to mitigate injury.
28:48
[SPEAKER_01]: and in homes where yeah and games where and the people who I know people complain about the last time they had to put it back in but the reason the set the the thought process was sound you have to mitigate injury to all of us with complain to be expedivitis health the bears are up crazy and one of the most valuable players on their roster gets hurt because they go a full you can't have a Derek rose effect you cannot have a Derek rose effect
29:14
[SPEAKER_00]: cannot.
29:16
[SPEAKER_00]: There goes should never been playing those minutes.
29:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Never.
29:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I never been playing those money.
29:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, I don't care.
29:23
[SPEAKER_00]: We, the bulls have not been good since that moment.
29:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Sir, sorry, sorry.
29:27
[SPEAKER_01]: We are Super Bowl Bale.
29:29
[SPEAKER_01]: You listen, take one look at the past.
29:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.
29:32
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not leaving it because you're triggering people right now.
29:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you.
29:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I found out dude, playoff Rondo was fun for like a second.
29:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you right as far as I'm being that was the that was as close as they were going to get but again, we're not doing that we need a little bit of negativity.
29:48
[SPEAKER_00]: We've been too happy we need a little bit of negativity the Bolzer one is seven and they're horrendous.
29:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, man, right now, I had because the television app wasn't working right, I canceled my bull subscription, but I still had the rest of the month, and I have like two days left on it, and I was in my head thinking, like, I'm not about to reactivate that, and I hate to say that to for a Caleb, but I'm like, bro, I'm not pants 20 dollars a month to watch the hit that asses kick.
30:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Gabriel, Patrick Williams, what the fuck is that?
30:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen to your, just that you got the Chicago syndrome on you.
30:25
[SPEAKER_01]: We can have nice things too, okay?
30:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
30:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't bring this.
30:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't bring that Portuguese one to this great fantasy we live in here right now.
30:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Lead that out there.
30:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's just lead that type of disaster that way.
30:37
[SPEAKER_00]: We are living with Josh.
30:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Josh, man.
30:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Who's there's a reason that I had to say that there's a reason that as high as he was projected in the draft, he slipped, you know what I'm saying is he slipped and you know you know people that cover that team I know people that haven't do cover that team and there's a lot more bark than bite was what everybody says and what you see, you know what I'm saying so again, I was modest the best but broke like
31:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, this is not what we're supposed to be.
31:09
[SPEAKER_01]: See what he did.
31:10
[SPEAKER_01]: What we were supposed to talk about guest.
31:13
[SPEAKER_01]: No, man, man, talk boy, we've done it already.
31:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Alex, and we're on the other side.
31:19
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we're on the other side, right?
31:22
[SPEAKER_01]: The other side, we went through two coaches that was like, what?
31:28
[SPEAKER_01]: We're on the other side.
31:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway,
31:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I told you I had to bear a scoring around at least 30 points.
31:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I have the book and it is not getting out of the teens.
31:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I have Caleb Williams being phenomenal on Jeffrey Simmons and we will give them game bosses.
31:43
[SPEAKER_01]: They reportedly need, they will be exemptions because Caleb, you see he didn't get once again.
31:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody can't get whatever you want, and extra, and extra gloss on his nails of Neapy.
31:55
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you can get whatever you keep doing this here for us who have never seen that light.
32:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, hold on.
32:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I got, I do owe an apology.
32:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I owe an apology.
32:06
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a gentleman, I believe a gentleman, if you're young lady, but I believe you're a gentleman.
32:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to be correct.
32:11
[SPEAKER_01]: There's Alex was telling me about his, his Mima being alive.
32:15
[SPEAKER_01]: They're on the same luckment area.
32:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Alex sent me a photo.
32:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me see if I can find.
32:20
[SPEAKER_01]: The comments.
32:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad you're doing this.
32:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll address some comments.
32:24
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not a mail bag episode.
32:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And these are not mail bag questions, but I'm glad that we can have some comment responses.
32:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I have, I have one to respond to as well.
32:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Lou Best 37.
32:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I apologize.
32:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I put it in the in the chat that I apologize to you.
32:41
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, luckily was highly intelligent, a Columbia grad and play both ways.
32:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Defense as well as offense.
32:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And at least one season, he had three in a session.
32:52
[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
32:53
[SPEAKER_01]: He was also the punk, the punk and play skick a different era and yeah, but show some respect.
33:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I hear you.
33:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And he said, I saw him play on TV in the AFL.
33:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still alive and probably know more about computers and computing.
33:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the computing.
33:10
[SPEAKER_01]: He did a camera line, computer's computing.
33:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And the computing, then any other of you presenters.
33:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, thank you.
33:20
[SPEAKER_01]: You do, you're quite good at what you do, Kenneth.
33:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So I want to apologize, because I was being, I was joking, I was being facetious, but there are people that are still alive and live a long, is live the longest life, Lou, that you can possibly live a long, what else is?
33:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're right, I believe you.
33:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we're good at presenting, as you say.
33:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not good at computing.
33:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very ask any of my former colleagues.
33:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not good at computing whatsoever.
33:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Pewders Putin.
33:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm good at talking about the bears and writing about the bears, not good at computing.
33:50
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll more comment.
33:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen some comments as well because I decided to dip into the comments a little bit about my ASMR stretch here that I've been doing and somebody said, Josh, stop whispering.
34:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, I'm Alex.
34:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not Josh Rock.
34:09
[SPEAKER_00]: And then somebody said, it sounds like he's whispering because
34:15
[SPEAKER_00]: you're exactly right my baby's bedroom is right there and our schedules have changed so now we're recording to the night and because the bears are good and they're always on prime time we're doing these post game shows at night so I got a whisper I got to do a little ASMR episode now because we're recording late at night
34:35
[SPEAKER_00]: But after this, the bears will be back at noon, and then I will be talking at full volume at least for our post-game episodes.
34:43
[SPEAKER_00]: So for the people who hate the whispering, I'm sorry.
34:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Ha ha!
34:47
[SPEAKER_00]: If for that one guy who said it's because I have a baby next door, you're very perceptive and you're right.
34:52
[SPEAKER_01]: My baby's asleep right now.
34:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And also, I hope your kids are healthy because clearly the reason you know is because you've had children probably so I hope your family is healthy.
35:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope everybody's children are healthy.
35:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It's flu season.
35:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It's flu COVID season.
35:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Stay healthy.
35:08
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
35:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Anything else for we get out here?
35:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Go get your flu and COVID vaccines.
35:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Stay healthy.
35:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Get a majority.
35:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Get the 10% off coupon.
35:18
[SPEAKER_01]: whatever.
35:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a flu shot cause for Kelsey.
35:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we're not touching on that.
35:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody will be back here Sunday night after the victory that the bears will be putting on to the books, the beating and that will give them the victory.
35:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm appreciate it.
35:37
[SPEAKER_01]: It definitely be in a chat, appreciate you all second time.
35:41
[SPEAKER_01]: That is it for us here on the Winner City podcast.
35:43
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see you in a few days.