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Gay for Due Process: Live at WorldPride · Pod Save America

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  Speaker 4: Hey, everybody.
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  Speaker 5: Happy Pride.
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  Speaker 6: Today, we're switching things up a bit. On Friday night,
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  Speaker 6: I did a very fun live show with Sarah Longwell
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  Speaker 6: and Tim Miller from The Bulwark at the Lincoln Theater
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  Speaker 6: in Washington, D.C. at World Pride. It was a fundraiser
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  Speaker 6: benefiting the Immigrant Defenders Law Center, which represents people like
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  Speaker 6: Andre Hernandez Romero and so many others who have been
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  Speaker 6: disappeared without due process to El Salvador. It was a
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  Speaker 6: serious topic, but a very fun show with some important
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  Speaker 6: conversations and some very silly games. If you want to
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  Speaker 6: help You can donate at votesaveamerica.com slash action for Andre.
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  Speaker 6: We'll be back with a regular episode on Tuesday. But
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  Speaker 6: in the meantime, here's a live show. Hope you like it. Welcome, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: I was never a twink. Here's the thing. Love it.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you all for coming out. I want to
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  Speaker 2: tell you just a second about the origin story of this.
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  Speaker 2: I was in the shower one day. Watch out. Usually
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  Speaker 2: it's that. Usually it's that.
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  Speaker 6: Calm down.
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  Speaker 2: But in this case, I was thinking about how fucking
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  Speaker 2: pissed I am that we're kidnapping gay people and sending
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  Speaker 2: them to El Salvador. And so I get out of
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  Speaker 2: the shower, and I texted Levitt. And I was like, Levitt,
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  Speaker 2: we should do something for others for once. We should
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  Speaker 2: stop being such narcissists who care about our own content creation.
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  Speaker 2: We should do something for someone else. And he was like,
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  Speaker 2: great idea, Tim. I was like, and let's try it.
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  Speaker 6: I'll try anything once.
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  Speaker 2: So then I was like, let's tie it to World Pride,
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  Speaker 2: you know, so we can have one for him, one
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  Speaker 2: for us on the back end. So we'll see you
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  Speaker 2: all at Flower Factory later. Sarah, you got brought in. Why?
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  Speaker 2: Are you here?
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  Speaker 7: I think because somebody needed to be the top on
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  Speaker 7: this stage.
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  Speaker 6: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody vetted.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't vet that joke.
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  Speaker 7: I didn't vet that joke.
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  Speaker 6: No, sorry.
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  Speaker 7: I just, I just, uh. It was important to have
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  Speaker 7: a bipartisan event.
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  Speaker 4: It was important to be diverse because this is a pro-democracy,
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  Speaker 4: and I mean small-D democracy event.
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  Speaker 7: I'm the pro-democracy, they're the small-D.
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  Speaker 6: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: She's so proud of herself.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't realize lesbians knew about jokes.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, well, that's fine. That's fine.
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  Speaker 4: But these guys were like, hey, we're going to go
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  Speaker 4: in like pregame backstage.
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  Speaker 7: We're going to do some shots. But they just took
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  Speaker 7: prep shots. That's all they did.
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  Speaker 2: It's a pill.
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  Speaker 7: How am I supposed to know that?
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  Speaker 6: I don't need them. My shot is ozempic.
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  Speaker 2: And you're looking great. Thanks, buddy. We are going through
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  Speaker 2: old pictures of you. And boy, big improvement. You're thriving
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you, buddy.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you for saying that. It gets better. Uh, So,
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  Speaker 6: you know, look, we wanna have fun, but also we're
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  Speaker 6: here because this is a serious moment and we're really
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  Speaker 6: grateful to everybody who was willing to come out during
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  Speaker 6: World Pride to be here, to be part of this fundraiser,
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  Speaker 6: to keep attention on the importance of freeing Andre and
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  Speaker 6: all the others who have been disappeared to a gulag
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  Speaker 6: in El Salvador in our name. Earlier today, I got
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  Speaker 6: to witness something historic, which is I believe the first time,
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  Speaker 6: Sarah Longwell, you've been like a participant in a protest.
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  Speaker 7: It's the first protest I've ever been to, period.
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  Speaker 6: And we were joking just now backstage, do you know
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  Speaker 6: how much had to go fucking wrong in this society
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  Speaker 6: for Sarah and I to get close? Do you know
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  Speaker 6: how many different things we had to get wrong all
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  Speaker 6: along the way for us to be here at the
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  Speaker 6: Lincoln Theater together? This is against nature. This is when
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  Speaker 6: a turtle and a horse are friends at a zoo.
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  Speaker 6: It's not working.
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  Speaker 2: Who's the horse? It's not working. I'm the horse, I think.
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  Speaker 2: I think you have a slideshow, don't you?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, is it we're up to the slideshow? Is it time?
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  Speaker 2: I think so.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, great.
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  Speaker 2: Unless you've got more chit-chat you want to do.
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  Speaker 6: We all know the name of Harvey Milk. Who Pete
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  Speaker 6: Hegseth is trying to get his name off of a
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  Speaker 6: Navy vessel. There's a Navy ship named after Harvey Milk.
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  Speaker 6: And Pete Hegseth is like, got to do some cancel
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  Speaker 6: culture on that ship. But Harvey Milk is not the first... elected,
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  Speaker 6: gay elected official in this country is the first gay
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  Speaker 6: man to be elected in this country because the... Isn't
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  Speaker 6: that interesting? Really?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 8: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Because the first person to be elected, openly gay person
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  Speaker 6: to be elected is a lesbian from Michigan named Kathy Kozachenko,
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  Speaker 6: I believe. And we don't know her name because lesbians
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  Speaker 6: just don't do PR. They just... It's mostly, it's like
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  Speaker 6: woodworking and that kind of a thing. It's the gay
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  Speaker 6: guys that went in to PR....
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  Speaker 4: That's funny because actually when we were promoting the show,
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  Speaker 4: the advocate did a piece.
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  Speaker 7: And my PR guy was the one pitching the piece.
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  Speaker 4: And somehow the piece came out, Tim Miller and John
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  Speaker 4: Lovett to co-host show.
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  Speaker 2: The advocate knows what sells magazines.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's how we put butts in the seats.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No pictures of women and axes in the advocate. That's
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  Speaker 2: not going to do anything.
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  Speaker 6: The point is... We owe a great deal to lesbians,
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  Speaker 6: I've recently found out. And as a token of our gratitude,
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  Speaker 6: we wanted to hope to make you feel perfectly at
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  Speaker 6: ease during World Pride by showing you some options for
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  Speaker 6: different lesbian styles you could embrace this weekend. Is it
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  Speaker 6: a skirt?
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  Speaker 7: Because I'm not wearing that.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, so we can rule out a couple right there. Now,
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  Speaker 6: we did manage to go into the archives, and we
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  Speaker 6: found some options from your past. So let's show what
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  Speaker 6: we've got here first.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Lumberjack chic.
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  Speaker 6: I would say Lumber Jacqueline. Scarecrow with a master's degree.
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  Speaker 7: I do love a flannel. Still.
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  Speaker 2: You can't see the fingerless gloves in the photo, but
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  Speaker 2: they're underneath.
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  Speaker 6: Dwayne the Lesbian Johnson is an option for one of these. But...
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  Speaker 6: Do we have any more of those? Oh, here's another.
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  Speaker 6: We have this. That is... Yeah, I'm cute.
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  Speaker 7: That's my wife.
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  Speaker 2: I guess you are the top.
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  Speaker 6: Can we go back to that one? So this version
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  Speaker 6: of Sarah, we came up with a name for it,
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  Speaker 6: which is Katie Langley. But look, there are many different
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  Speaker 6: directions that you could go, which is why it's time
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  Speaker 6: for a segment we're calling Cara Beaner, I Hardly Know Her. Now...
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  Speaker 6: First up, we do have the lipstick lesbian, represented here
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  Speaker 6: by Portia de Ronci.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, I'm gonna get out of the way here.
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  Speaker 6: Now, the only downside here is you do run the
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  Speaker 6: risk of being seduced by Ellen DeGeneres, and then having
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  Speaker 6: to go live in the Cotswolds. I don't know what
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  Speaker 6: that is, but it doesn't sound....
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  Speaker 4: You are describing a lesbian fantasy right now, so I
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  Speaker 4: don't know what the problem is.
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  Speaker 6: Right, I don't know your culture. I don't know your culture.
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  Speaker 6: Now next up as an option for you, now do
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  Speaker 6: we have a, let's go to the next slide. Yes,
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  Speaker 6: next up we have the power lesbians. Yes, I remember
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  Speaker 6: the Sex and the City episode. Yes, of course you do. Oh,
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  Speaker 6: I'm in there. Yeah, obviously you're pretty much at ease
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  Speaker 6: in this photo. This doesn't feel like much of a
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  Speaker 6: stretch for you. Would you consider yourself a power lesbian?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so.
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  Speaker 2: A little humility, please, God.
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  Speaker 9: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: What? What did Tim say?
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  Speaker 2: A little humility. I mean, you're not supposed to call
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  Speaker 2: yourself a power lesbian. That's supposed to be a title
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  Speaker 2: bestowed upon you, I think, by others.
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  Speaker 6: That's the kind of thing someone who's not a power
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  Speaker 6: lesbian would say. Any power lesbian would describe herself as such.
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  Speaker 6: And if you can't, you're not, bitch.
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  Speaker 8: All right.
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  Speaker 6: Next up, we have granola lesbians.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: I look fine gray.
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  Speaker 6: A Subaru-sophic, we call them. It's comfortable shoes, cargo shorts.
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  Speaker 6: It would be very practical during the parade. Something to
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  Speaker 6: think about. You might get hit by those national park
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  Speaker 6: budget cuts by Trump.
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  Speaker 7: That has been hard on the lesbians, actually.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: We do like to camp.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you do like to camp.
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  Speaker 7: You guys like camp. We like to camp.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Nobody likes to camp.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: I refuse to believe that anyone actually likes to camp.
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  Speaker 7: My friends are camping right now without me.
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  Speaker 6: I had to skip it.
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  Speaker 7: To come to this show.
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  Speaker 11: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: You're welcome.
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  Speaker 6: No, I don't understand camping either, but that's why the
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  Speaker 6: flag has different colors on it, you know? That's why
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  Speaker 6: we have different... That's why straight.
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  Speaker 2: Women are our natural allies. Hello, straight women. You don't
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  Speaker 2: like to camp either, do you? You don't like to camp.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, I often believe that the next great political realignment
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  Speaker 6: is when the straight women and the gay guys join
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  Speaker 6: forces and the straight guys and the lesbians join forces
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  Speaker 6: and that becomes our political divide.
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  Speaker 7: Do we want to take a winner in that fight?
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  Speaker 6: We'll do whatever you say. Next up, a classic, a
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  Speaker 6: classic direction. We have the masks. Now, oh, there we go. Now,
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  Speaker 6: this is working for Tim, so that's a bad sign. Now,
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  Speaker 6: TikTok has declared a mask shortage. And, you know, you're
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  Speaker 6: a former Republican, so you care a lot about a
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  Speaker 6: free market. That's an opportunity for you. There's a market
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  Speaker 6: opening for some more masculine Sarah Longwell. Have you thought
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  Speaker 6: about shorter hair, spikes, maybe kind of more tattoos?
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  Speaker 7: Oh, he was saying mask with a C.
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  Speaker 4: I thought he was talking about like COVID masks.
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  Speaker 6: Get out of here, Fauci. Nobody's talking about masks. Wait, no, no,
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  Speaker 6: I'm talking about masculine, a masculine lesbian. Well, if this
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  Speaker 6: isn't your style, we can try soft butch.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: Respected, classy, androgynous.
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  Speaker 7: I think a sweater vest is up my alley, actually.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I think we could reach for one of
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  Speaker 6: those in your closet for sure. And then I think
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  Speaker 6: one last one. I think we have Diesel Dyke. That's
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  Speaker 6: Rosa Delario.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I like, honestly, I think you could try that.
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  Speaker 2: I really do too.
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  Speaker 6: I think shave the sides of your head. I mean, honestly.
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  Speaker 2: This could work for you.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you, straight man in the audience.
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  Speaker 6: Get that attitude the fuck out of here.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: It is pride month, sir. It's pride month. We say
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  Speaker 6: yes to whatever. And finally, just as one last option,
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  Speaker 6: we have the Elvira Goth era that you could perhaps enter.
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  Speaker 6: That's where we would like to see you by the
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  Speaker 6: end of this Pride.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I should have worked harder.
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  Speaker 7: On my photo bits after this.
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  Speaker 6: So, Sarah, that's all a way of saying, you know,
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  Speaker 6: we want you to try any one of these directions.
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  Speaker 6: We hope that even though Tim and I do, take
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  Speaker 6: up as much space as there is.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I look forward to interrupting you guys a lot during
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  Speaker 4: this show as you talk.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like the sound of that.
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  Speaker 7: A form of historical retaliation.
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  Speaker 6: And I love that for us. Yeah. But now, I understand, Sarah,
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  Speaker 6: you've collected a dossier of your own.
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  Speaker 7: So here's the thing. Tim and I actually go way back,
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  Speaker 7: like recliners back. We have been.
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  Speaker 4: Friends since 2006 when I had to go pick him
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  Speaker 4: up after the cops arrested him.
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  Speaker 7: And for some reason, his first call was to his boss.
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  Speaker 4: Because they needed a responsible adult to pick him up
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  Speaker 4: and drive his trust fund Cadillac.
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  Speaker 7: Home for him?
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  Speaker 2: I don't recall this. Did that happen?
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  Speaker 7: That's a real thing that happened.
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  Speaker 1: Are you sure?
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  Speaker 4: I remember pulling up in the cab. Because I also
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  Speaker 4: had a life. I was also out partying.
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  Speaker 6: And I had to pull up in a cab. Let's
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  Speaker 6: try to keep this believable.
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  Speaker 4: I pull up in a cab and this guy is
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  Speaker 4: sitting on the curb.
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  Speaker 7: It's almost Christmas.
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  Speaker 4: I remember because the cop, wished me a Merry Christmas
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  Speaker 4: as I was taking Tim away. And Tim's sitting there
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  Speaker 4: in the tiniest little glittery tank top you've ever seen
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  Speaker 4: while the cop lights are going, the red and whites
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  Speaker 4: are spinning.
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  Speaker 6: I remember the cabbie said to me.
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  Speaker 2: You know, coming out is a challenge, okay? And I
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  Speaker 2: went through some rocky times. I'm sure there are people
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  Speaker 2: in the room who can relate to that. It's not
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  Speaker 2: nice to bully me about it all these years later.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I told you, somebody's got to bring the top energy.
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  Speaker 7: So anyway, so Tim and I.
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  Speaker 6: Tim and I.
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  Speaker 4: have been friends for a very long time. And so
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  Speaker 4: I have a lot of old pictures of Tim. And
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  Speaker 4: so I thought we'd just do something really quickly called
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  Speaker 4: the Tim Eras Tour.
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  Speaker 6: I love this.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds fun. I love this.
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  Speaker 7: Let's go.
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  Speaker 4: This is the Tim Beard Era.
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  Speaker 2: Holy shit.
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  Speaker 6: Look at that. That is hot.
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  Speaker 2: I want to draw your attention to the fact that
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  Speaker 2: I spilled my drink all over my shirt.
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  Speaker 6: Look, Tim, if you had kept that up a little
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  Speaker 6: bit longer, you could have been Speaker of the House.
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  Speaker 7: What else we got? Oh, yeah, I call this Tim's
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  Speaker 7: Free Palestine Era. That's Tim's husband, actually. Look how far
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  Speaker 7: we go back.
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  Speaker 2: That's Tyler.
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  Speaker 7: That was Pride of 2008.
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  Speaker 6: How about that?
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  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, okay. This is Tim's frat bro era.
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  Speaker 4: What are you, chugging a 40 at the RNC headquarters?
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  Speaker 6: Wait a second. Who is that in the background?
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  Speaker 7: Is that Sean Spicer?
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  Speaker 9: That is Sean fucking Spicer. Shame, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame.
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  Speaker 6: And if I kept that up, I'd be on Newsmax.
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  Speaker 6: That's how quickly we could have our own dictator on
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  Speaker 6: our side. It's that fast. On a fucking dime.
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  Speaker 2: On a dime. Sorry, Sarah.
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  Speaker 6: Please continue. I'm sorry. Sorry for them.
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  Speaker 7: Look at this twink schoolboy era.
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  Speaker 2: That's hot.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: This was around the time I met Tim, and he
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  Speaker 4: had a pair of fake glasses that he wore. This
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: was his Superman to Clark Kent thing that he did.
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: It was like, Glasses straight. Glasses off.
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: Gay.
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: They were not prescription.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I did wear non-prescription spectacles. Oh my.
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: You know. Yeah. For those listening. I was. For those.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: It was a gag.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: For those listening. That is a photo of Tim, Sarah,
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: and another Sarah Palin of Alaska. You know what's so funny?
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: You hear former Republican, but then you feel it. Then
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: you feel it right here in the middle of the chest.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: You betcha.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: I call this Tim's Why We Did It era. which
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: you only know if you've read Tim's book, but it's
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: a good joke if you've got Tim's book.
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: All right, next one. This is Tim's Please Clap era.
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: We have Tim and Jeb Bush.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: Now, look at this. This is just.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: If only we had Jeb. You guys didn't fucking deserve Jeb, okay?
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I don't want to hear any of this nonsense.
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: If only we had Jeb, people say to themselves all
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: the time.
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: Last one.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: That's not cute. I said only cute pictures.
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: Lastly, this is Tim's finally famous era.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: And I want you to know this is from the
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: other day when Tim yelled at our staff because he
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: didn't look cute enough in his YouTube photo.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: And honestly, you know what?
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: And he made them change it. You know what?
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: That's exactly what Tim should do. That face is his
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: goddamn moneymaker.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Thank you. All right?
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: And we can't do anything in private. We can be
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: honest about the fact that we want to be looking
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: good on these fucking YouTubes.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: All right, Sarah? Sarah?
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: That's all my Tim, but I do have a bonus
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: for Lovett, because I didn't have old pictures of him.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: His freshman year college roommate and I worked together, and
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: I was like, give me something. And he said no.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: So John must be like a scary gay.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Loyalty. Yeah.
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: Loyalty.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: So I had to do something else.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: So one thing that John and I have in common
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: is that we both love the show Survivor. I've watched
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: every season of Survivor, and when I saw that they
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: announced John Lovett was going to be on the show, I.
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: Was so fucking pissed.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: I was like, now they will never have another gay
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: middle-aged podcaster on the show, and I've missed it.
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: I'll never get to do this. Luckily, this happened.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: First person voted out of Survivor 47, John.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: That's four, that's enough.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: You need to bring me your torch. They misspelled your name?
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: Let's just watch the whole fucking thing. Relive it! Relive
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: it all!
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Play it again!
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: We're in Bright and Fast.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Time to go. Alright. See ya.
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: Bye, James.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: You know, um.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I have a little behind the scenes story from one
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: of our podcasts in the period between when John came
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: home from Survivor and when they announced that he was
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: the first person eliminated. We did a podcast together and
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: on the show I was like, by the way, I
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: know you did terrible. And he goes, how do you know?
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I said, you look exactly the same as when you left.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: And I've seen the end of Survivor and people that
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: make it long, they get tanned, they lose weight. So
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I was like, you look the same. And he made
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: me cut it. He was like, Sherry Redstone will get
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: mad at me and CBS if we leave it in.
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: Oh, Sherry Redstone.
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: There is a fragile alliance between former Republicans and current Democrats.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: Fragile alliance. Okay, okay.
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: Well, this is my last thing. I did get this
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: one picture out of your roommate. Which is.
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: So here's the thing.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: I just have to ask you, because I think I
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: might know why you lost.
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: Are you practicing making fire just on concrete?
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: I was learning how to spark the flint. I was
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: really trying to get the fire started. I was learning.
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: I bought a machete on Amazon. Which you shouldn't be
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: able to do, and yet. And yet, but yes, that
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: is me trying to learn how to make fire, which
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: if I had managed to miss more than three dinners,
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: you might have seen.
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: Okay, that's the end of my bit. That's the end
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: of my photos bit.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Yikes. Can you make fire?
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: I can make fire. I learned to make fire. Not
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: as good at making friends, but I can make fire.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: Turns out you got to make fire and you got
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: to make friends.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Which was harder for you, getting voted off first or
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: the fact that none of them had heard of your podcast?
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: When we come back.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Excuse me. We're staying.
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: We have one more little item.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, sorry.
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: You're right.
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: You're right.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. It's okay. We added it to the
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: show late. So it's fine. It makes sense. I just
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: figured that since we had the world's messiest divorce during
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Pride Month, we should probably just talk about it a
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: little bit. So, you know, my take on this might
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: be a little different than you expect, because I was
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: thinking about it on the plane here, and I was like,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: you know, thinking about Donald and Elon, gay men in
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: the crowd, maybe there's more that unites us than divides us,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: it turns out. I know, it doesn't seem likely, but
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: bear with me here. You have a relationship between two
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: white male narcissists. It hits the skids. The breakup explodes
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: in a messy ketamine-fueled catfight. There's accusations of bad behavior
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: at sex parties. And reckless spending of the couple's finances.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: It's a gale as old as time. I'm surprised this
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: didn't burst out into the open at a 14th Street brunch.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: We've all seen the arc. The only question I have
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: is which one spirals and spends the night taking strangers
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: loads in the dark room at the Green Lantern? My
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: money's on Elon. Was that too much?
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: No, I don't think so.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: You can keep that one as a souvenir. I can't throw.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I'm gay. We'll give it to you later. I also
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: feel like we're kind of living a preview of the
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Sophie's Choice facing the children of gay divorce. I don't
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: know about you. I feel bad for those children. Like,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: imagine having to choose who you want to have custody.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: The K-hole circuit dad or the cunty theater queen? Talk
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: about hard choices by Hillary Clinton. Did you write any
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: of that? No, I'm not involved. One other thing I
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: never expected from this whole saga was that a straight
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: man would end up becoming the poster boy for mixing
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: meth and K. I thought that was our thing.
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: I don't understand any of these jokes.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: That's great. The jokes are for the seven gay men
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: of the age of 50 in the crowd. What's up, boys?
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: The good news is now we get a name for
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: getting so geeked on a Kay and Tina snowball that
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: you spend all night posting onto sniffies or X. We
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: can call it getting doged. And let me tell you guys,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: if you're out there after that Troye Sivan show tomorrow,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: boys are going to be getting doged all over town.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: So watch your apps.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: That was beautiful, Tim.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: That's all we got. That was my tight five on
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the gay divorce. Yes.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: And on that note, when we come back, Tim is
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: going to sit down with Andre Hernandez, Romero's lawyer, to
• 26:13
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• 26:15
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• 27:40
  Speaker 2: You don't get the fancy intro like everybody else? Okay,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: introduce yourself. Tell everybody who we're talking to.
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: Hi, everybody.
• 27:46
  Speaker 10: I'm Lindsay Toslowski. I'm the president and CEO of the
• 27:50
  Speaker 10: Immigrant Defenders Law Center.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Thank you. It's so great to see you in person, finally,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: after all of our Twitter DMs. It's unfortunate we had
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: to use Elon's platform to talk, but it's nice that
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: he brought us together.
• 28:05
  Speaker 10: I'm glad he brought us together.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I'm just so appreciative of all the work that you're doing,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: and I'm so grateful that we were able to support
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: your guys' work with this event tonight.
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I should say I got a text from Congressman Richie
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Torres' folks. They donated $ 1, 000 to your group as well
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: since he couldn't be here tonight. So we're doing the
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: best we can. But I thought that, why don't you
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: start by just telling us about Andre and how you
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: got to know him and how you got to represent him. Sure.
• 28:33
  Speaker 10: So Andre is an asylum seeker from Venezuela.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: He came to the U.S. last year.
• 28:40
  Speaker 10: When he was in Venezuela as a gay man, he
• 28:43
  Speaker 10: faced incredible discrimination He also was politically persecuted. He was
• 28:50
  Speaker 10: physically hurt. He was followed home by police officers. So
• 28:54
  Speaker 10: he made the incredibly difficult decision to come to the U.S.
• 28:57
  Speaker 10: But he had a really rich life there. He's been
• 29:01
  Speaker 10: in a theater troupe since he was seven years old.
• 29:03
  Speaker 10: He actually worked on the Miss Venezuela pageant. He was
• 29:08
  Speaker 10: in pageants himself as a contestant.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Now, is that common in Venezuela for Trenderagua men to
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: be working on the Miss Venezuela pageant?
• 29:16
  Speaker 10: I don't think that's been a cover I've seen before.
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: Not common.
• 29:21
  Speaker 10: He also worked professionally as a makeup artist. He had
• 29:25
  Speaker 10: this really rich life. He's close to his mom. So
• 29:27
  Speaker 10: for him to flee and come to the United States,
• 29:30
  Speaker 10: things were really bad. And it was really difficult for
• 29:33
  Speaker 10: him to live authentically there. So he came to the U.S.
• 29:37
  Speaker 10: and he did everything that we were asking people to
• 29:39
  Speaker 10: do he made an appointment he waited in Tijuana for
• 29:43
  Speaker 10: that appointment he once he got into the U.S. he
• 29:47
  Speaker 10: was kept in an ICE prison in San Diego from
• 29:50
  Speaker 10: the moment he arrived here he's never stepped free in
• 29:53
  Speaker 10: the United States at all During that time, he passed
• 29:57
  Speaker 10: his credible fear interview, which means he was on his
• 29:59
  Speaker 10: way to getting asylum. We started representing him in December
• 30:04
  Speaker 10: of last year. We were in the process of waiting
• 30:07
  Speaker 10: for a court hearing for him. And he was disappeared
• 30:10
  Speaker 10: by the Trump administration on March 15th.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: And so since you had started, you'd been talking to
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: him that time. I mean, did you kind of expect that?
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Or what was the situation between kind of December and March?
• 30:22
  Speaker 10: Yeah, so we were getting ready to move forward with
• 30:24
  Speaker 10: his asylum case. We had a hearing on March 13th.
• 30:28
  Speaker 10: He was really suffering in an ICE detention center, which
• 30:31
  Speaker 10: is one of the reasons that we worry so much
• 30:34
  Speaker 10: about what it's like for him now in a torture
• 30:37
  Speaker 10: prison in El Salvador.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Suffering how?
• 30:40
  Speaker 10: Suffering, he was sexually harassed. He had actually made complaints.
• 30:45
  Speaker 10: This is a detention center in San Diego. But he
• 30:48
  Speaker 10: also was doing other things while he was there, including...
• 30:52
  Speaker 10: At one point, he gave us a, it was sort
• 30:54
  Speaker 10: of like a business plan, a 19-page business plan that
• 30:58
  Speaker 10: he had created for a nonprofit that he wanted to start.
• 31:02
  Speaker 10: And it was to help kids who were homeless and
• 31:04
  Speaker 10: to help other gay kids. And he was planning to
• 31:09
  Speaker 10: do that once he got out. And he wanted to
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: know if we could show it to the judge to
• 31:13
  Speaker 10: show that he had good intentions here in the US.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Now you do a lot of these cases. Bring him
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: fucking back. It's ridiculous. You know, the Andre case has
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: just taken up so much of, it's good, it's gotten attention,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: taken so much of my brain power, but I know
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: you represent other folks as well. Are there any other
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: stories you want to tell us about the people that
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: you represent that are in El Salvador?
• 31:38
  Speaker 10: So we represent eight other men who are also at
• 31:41
  Speaker 10: the same Secot prison in El Salvador that Andre is.
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: One of them is Arturo Suarez. He's a professional singer.
• 31:48
  Speaker 10: He actually had a baby born since he's been there.
• 31:52
  Speaker 10: who he's never met. Another is Miguel Rojas Mendoza. He
• 31:57
  Speaker 10: was picked up in Louisiana while working as a horse
• 31:59
  Speaker 10: trainer and rancher. He actually had TPS, so he had
• 32:04
  Speaker 10: protected status here in the United States. He has two children,
• 32:08
  Speaker 10: and his children's names were the tattoos that he had
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: that likely landed him there. And there are so many
• 32:14
  Speaker 10: other stories, so many other Andres that could be part
• 32:18
  Speaker 10: of the more than 235 men.
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: Who were sent on those U.S.
• 32:22
  Speaker 10: Government planes to El Salvador.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: How do you not become just consumed by rage, murderous rage?
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: That's a personal question. I'm looking for advice.
• 32:32
  Speaker 10: You know, I think that every single day that I'm here,
• 32:36
  Speaker 10: I feel like I'm doing exactly what I'm supposed to
• 32:38
  Speaker 10: be doing. And I think all of the other.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: And.
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: I....
• 32:46
  Speaker 10: And I think all of the other, we have a
• 32:48
  Speaker 10: huge team that's working on Anthony's case, other immigrant defenders,
• 32:52
  Speaker 10: other colleagues. We have a case that is actually the
• 32:55
  Speaker 10: JGG versus Trump case. It's happening here right now. We
• 32:59
  Speaker 10: got a positive decision this week. So we are keeping
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: hope alive. I believe, I know in my heart that
• 33:07
  Speaker 10: we will get him back and we're not gonna stop
• 33:10
  Speaker 10: fighting until we do. And so I think to answer
• 33:13
  Speaker 10: your question about rage, We're channeling our rage for good
• 33:17
  Speaker 10: at this moment because what the hell else are we
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: going to do?
• 33:19
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to play that back to myself from
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: time to time to try to use your wisdom to
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: help me out. Okay, we had a little news today
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: with the Kilmer-Obrego-Garcia case. I guess, kind of. I mean,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: it's good, but also, fuck these people. Just from the
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: legal perspective, what does that development say to you about
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: all these other cases?
• 33:43
  Speaker 10: So the news that we got in Kilmar's case is
• 33:46
  Speaker 10: that he's on his way back to the United States.
• 33:49
  Speaker 10: What that says to me is they need to stop
• 33:51
  Speaker 10: lying that it's impossible. And if they can bring him back,
• 33:54
  Speaker 10: they can bring Antri back.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: And this is the thing about all these cases. The
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: reason why they're bringing Kilmar back is because they want
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: to make it about the details of Kilmar's life, which
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know about one way or the other. But
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: that's the fucking point here. You can't kidnap 250 people
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: send them to a foreign gulag, and then just be like, well, whatever,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. Some of them are bad guys,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: some of them, right? Like that is the issue here.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: And so how do you think about like framing that
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: for people so we don't get bogged down in the
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: details of individual cases?
• 34:26
  Speaker 10: Right, in many ways what happened, I mean, there's lots
• 34:29
  Speaker 10: of legal things I could tell you about the Alien
• 34:31
  Speaker 10: Enemies Act and all these things, and I won't.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: You're welcome.
• 34:36
  Speaker 10: But what I can say is that his case is
• 34:38
  Speaker 10: fundamentally about due process. And due process is most important
• 34:42
  Speaker 10: when the government is accusing you of a crime or
• 34:44
  Speaker 10: alleging you are a gang member. The only thing that
• 34:47
  Speaker 10: stands between any of us ending up in a prison
• 34:50
  Speaker 10: in El Salvador just like Andree is the fact that
• 34:53
  Speaker 10: we have due process, we have constitutional rights. When those
• 34:57
  Speaker 10: are trampled, when you are, like Andree, whisked away without
• 35:02
  Speaker 10: getting to speak to your lawyer, without knowing where you
• 35:04
  Speaker 10: are going, without being given an opportunity to refute what
• 35:08
  Speaker 10: the government is saying about you, your day in court,
• 35:11
  Speaker 10: this is what happens. And if it can happen to him,
• 35:14
  Speaker 10: it could happen to any one of us. And that's
• 35:16
  Speaker 10: why this case is not just about Andri. It's not
• 35:19
  Speaker 10: just about the 240 men. It's about the future of
• 35:21
  Speaker 10: our democracy and whether or not we're going to fight
• 35:24
  Speaker 10: for it.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: All right, last thing. What can, obviously, folks here care
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: about this. They showed up tonight. We really appreciate all
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: of you. What else can people do?
• 35:34
  Speaker 10: Well, we're so grateful for this. You know, donating to
• 35:38
  Speaker 10: organizations like Immigrant Offenders Law Center and our partner organizations
• 35:42
  Speaker 10: is so important because it helps us to do this work.
• 35:45
  Speaker 10: All of our work is done for free for the clients.
• 35:48
  Speaker 10: And so being here is really important. But we're asking
• 35:51
  Speaker 10: people to continue to shine a light on this case.
• 35:54
  Speaker 10: continue to lift up his story, lift up the stories
• 35:57
  Speaker 10: of all these men. You can go to FreeAndre.org and
• 36:00
  Speaker 10: you will see toolkits so you can reach out to
• 36:02
  Speaker 10: your elected representatives. But really, the US government here, the
• 36:06
  Speaker 10: Trump administration, they are trying to erase his existence. And
• 36:10
  Speaker 10: so what we need people to do is keep his
• 36:13
  Speaker 10: story alive.
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: Don't let them erase him.
• 36:16
  Speaker 10: And most importantly, talk to your family and friends, those
• 36:19
  Speaker 10: that live in Republican districts. Make sure that they are
• 36:21
  Speaker 10: going to town halls, that they are asking the questions
• 36:24
  Speaker 10: about when Andre is coming back and when he's going
• 36:27
  Speaker 10: to get his day in court. That is the best
• 36:29
  Speaker 10: thing that people can do.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: I admire you so much. Thank you so much for
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: everything you're doing. That's Lindsay. Appreciate her. Thank you, everybody. Yeah,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: stand up. All right, up next, I don't know, Levitt's
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: going to do something. Oh, wait, I get to stay.
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: You stay. You stay there, Tim. It's time to bring
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: back one of our classic, classic segments. Now, it has
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: another name, but tonight, in honor of Pride, we're going
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: to call it something slightly different because it's time for
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: a segment we call Bitch, Stop! And here's how it works.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: We roll a clip.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: And whatever we like, we say, bitch, stop, to talk
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: about it. Tonight, we have Jesse Waters.
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: Bitch, stop.
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: Talking about what else? The human form. Let's roll the clip.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Now, I was at a resort a little while back,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: and I saw Senator Thune at the gym.
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: The man is jacked, and the guy is in great shape, and.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: He lifts hard.
• 37:45
  Speaker 12: And you look at Schumer, he's.
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: Built like a woman.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Now, men do not want to be led by the
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: party of women.
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: Bitch, stop.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Hate to hand it to Jesse Waters, but I don't know.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Show me the lie. My husband's a big John Thune
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: fan over there. He's getting excited. Just listen to the description.
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: Oh, you like that kind of.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: So, I'm sorry. 20 years ago, you had a crush
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: on John Thune? Wow. That strong jaw. Is he a
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: Dakota man?
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:20
  Speaker 11: Nice.
• 38:20
  Speaker 7: I have a question. Do men refuse to be led
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: by women?
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you want the answer to that.
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: You guys, as best I can tell, follow drag queens
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: around everywhere. And you're telling.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: A little something you might need to know about drag queens.
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: I walked into that one.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I had a drag queen. We had a drag queen
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: show up to... This is the second Tyler shout-out of
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: the segment to his 40th birthday party. He's 40 now.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: My father came. And the drag queen walks into the event.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: And my dad looks at my sister-in-law and he's like,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: that's a man, right? That was Sarah as well. Not
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: sure exactly what's happening underneath the wing.
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: I also just think it's a funny thing to say
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: because it's like, are people really following John Thune? Is
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: John Thune our leader?
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question. I mean, he's live, though,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: you have to say, about John Thune.
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: He's very fit.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: That's true. And it is also fair to say that
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: sometimes with Chuck Schumer, the medium is the message. You
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying?
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, what I remember about Schumer is I
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: remember when he was like, the people are aroused.
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: I've never seen.
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: the people so aroused.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: And I thought, Chuck Schumer, you might need to, it
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: might be time, man. It might be time for something else.
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: I also just, wow.
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: No shade to Chuck Schumer, but, and it has nothing
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: to do with his gym. Wait, just actually real quick.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: What is the obsession among Republican men now to talk
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: about what.
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: It means to be a man? This is a weird
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: thing that's going on.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: You're turning to me for my expertise on that?
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: I think you know more about it than I do.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: I just think that when you have somebody like Donald
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Trump at the top, somebody that's really, really fit, won
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: several golf tournaments. is like the 18-time champion of the
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Bedminster Seniors Golf Tournament. And so when you have somebody
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: with that kind of athletic prowess leading the movement, I
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: just think it kind of trickles down.
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: Among the people. There's a connection to... So obviously we're
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: going to have this military parade next week. Oh, I
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: guess you're not fans of the anniversary of the Continental Army.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: Not fans of what George Washington did for all of us.
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: Shame on you. But, you know, Michael Beschloss was talking about,
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry to bring up that name here, but... Okay.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: What's the next segment?
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: But no, but Eisenhower said he doesn't want, you know,
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: military parades, we did one after World War I and
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: World War II. We've done them in the event of
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: big victories after the Civil War. We don't just have
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: military parades on a random day. Because what Eisenhower said is,
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: that's not strong, that's fucking weak. That's what weak countries
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: do to pretend that they're strong. And you see like
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: Jesse Watters go on television and be like, well, men
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: should do this and men can't do that and they
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: can't eat soup and they can't drink from straws. And
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: it's like, why is the stronger thing to be unable
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: to do stuff? Like, why? I genuinely don't understand it.
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: It's like, you're... You can't do all these things. Being
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: a man means you have to do much, much less.
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: That's how you show how strong you are. That doesn't
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: make any sense to me. That doesn't make.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Any sense at all. It is a little faggy to
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: eat soup. Let's just be honest. Is that wrong?
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but when I see Donald Trump throwing
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: himself a big military parade with tanks, that's when I
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: really think about tiny Ds.
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure.
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: That is a one big compensation ceremony.
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: For sure. For sure, yeah. Like, look at that ICBM
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: going by. So how could I, you know? It's the
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: military version of the Corvette, in a sense. Let's continue
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: the clip.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Men want to be led by other men so democrats
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: need to become men and then they can persuade men
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: but they have to lift first i'm serious there's a
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: there's a quote by maya angelou thank you could you.
• 42:36
  Speaker 8: Ask permission from dana before you keep going people.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Will forget what you said people will forget what you
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: did but people will never forget how you made them feel.
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: Bitch stop uh how many loops in that fucking grave
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: do we think she did Like, is it a full,
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: like how many, like it's like a car going over
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: a cliff. She's like on bottom, you know, just fully
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: rolling and rolling and rolling and rolling.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: It must be hard to be a man because it's
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: like you can't drink out of straws, but you must
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: quote Maya Angelou.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: How much Maya do you think Jesse's read? Like how
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: familiar with his oeuvre do you think he is?
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: Oh, I think he's familiar with brainyquotes.com. I think he's
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: also like, as Abraham Lincoln once said, live, laugh, love.
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: According to Gandhi, you miss all the shots you don't take.
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: Quoting Maya Angelou on the five. On the five.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: People don't like the way they.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Feel around Democrats.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Because Democrats don't like the way they feel. And if
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: they lifted, they'd feel better, and then everybody around them
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: would feel better.
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: You had me in mind.
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: Okay, bitch.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Bitch, stop. I mean, I do think Joe Biden probably
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: has an uncomfortable touch. That said, keep me as far
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: away from Jesse Watters as possible. You know, so I
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: think that, you know, I'm not sure that he is
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: the best messenger, maybe.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: But should we test, like, let me, what he's saying
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: is men like to be around men who lift.
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: Fact check, true?
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, during World Pride, for sure.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: It's so, it really is like the horseshoe theory for heterosexuality.
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: It's like, how straight are you? I'll tell you how
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: straight I am. I only want to see the fucking
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: hottest guys. I'm so straight that I don't want to,
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: I do not like talking to women. I don't think
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: they're really people. I want to see fucking ripped dudes.
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: I think about them. I think about what it takes
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: to be a ripped dude. It's on my mind. I
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: see Chuck Schumer. Don't want to fuck him. Something's off.
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: Something's up. Now, John Thune, John Thune could have his
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: way with me. That's called leadership. I'm a straight man.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: He just wants to sit there with John Thune and
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: quote Maya Angelou back and forth, and that's what they
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: call Saturday night.
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: Sounds good.
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: And that's bitched up. Yeah.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: While they might try to ban our books, they can't
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: stop us from keeping the library open. Well, not the
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: literal libraries, but the library of the gay little human
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: heart remains open 24-7, and it's full of the gnarliest
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: reads we here at this show could muster. So joining
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: me on stage... Oh, wait.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, no.
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: I'm going to go out to the audience. I know
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: what we're doing. I know how to run a show.
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: So can we bring up the lights? Yes.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Love those on a red eye, all right? We can
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: just let them. Whoa, I don't know that we're going
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: to see this much.
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: First of all, hi, everybody. So here's how this works.
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: I'm going to come out there, all right? And we're
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: going to do, we have some rose jokes, and we'd
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: like to hear you have a chance to throw some shade,
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: as the kids say, 10 years ago, at some of these,
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: you know, Trump, Goons, if you're straight, hey, do me
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: a favor, keep your hands in your fucking pockets. All right,
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: we love that you're here, but we don't need to
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: hear you. Okay? Straights tonight, seen, not heard.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: I'm coming.
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: He just leaves the stage.
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: Oh, hello.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just prancing around in that little skirt.
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: Look at him.
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: Who would like to do our first joke? Look at
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: her prance. I'm coming to you. I'm coming to you.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: I'm coming to you.
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: Please stay seated. I will sit. Okay. All right. Here's
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: the joke. Here, give us the joke.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump.
• 46:57
  Speaker 13: Given how he uses makeup and tries to destroy anyone
• 47:00
  Speaker 13: who shares a stage with him, Donald Trump is our
• 47:03
  Speaker 13: first drag queen president. So that's at least one queen
• 47:07
  Speaker 13: I wouldn't trust around kids.
• 47:08
  Speaker 10: Nice.
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: All right. Who wants to go now?
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Coming around.
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: I'm coming around. I'm coming around, I'm coming around, I'm
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: coming around. Who wanted to go over here? I saw someone, oh, hi, hi, hi, hi.
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: All right, hit us with these J.D. Vance zingers.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: J.D.
• 47:27
  Speaker 12: Vance, talk about someone with no charisma.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: J.D.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Vance has never slayed in his life except for one
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: time in Vatican City. Nice, really good, here.
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: Here, let's do that second J.D. Vance one there.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: J.D. Vance has always wanted to be a man's man,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: but failing that, he'll happily be Donald Trump's bitch.
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: Nice. Nice. These are good.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: A little on the nose. Love it for that one.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: A little on the nose.
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, okay. Good note. We'll fix it in post, I guess.
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: Who else wants to go?
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Hi, hi. Oh, right. All right.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: Here.
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: Oh, okay. This is perfect.
• 48:10
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: It says for a lesbian, but just a woman works.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I just don't know your story. I
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: don't know your story.
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: Read both of these jokes right starting from there.
• 48:19
  Speaker 10: Seeing RFK Jr.
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: Always makes me wonder, can someone be a double lesbian?
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you got him. You zinged him. You zinged him
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: real good. Now do the second one. You're doing great.
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: You're doing great. We need more lesbian. Did you hear
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: the power lesbian thing earlier?
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: Confidence.
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: Do the next bit.
• 48:36
  Speaker 7: I'm nervous. I love you.
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: You're nervous? That's stupid. All right. Read the next one.
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: You got it. You're doing great. It's the same feeling
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: as excitement.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Here we go. RFK Jr. is truly a man who
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: has everything, at least according to his most recent blood work.
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: See, that's pretty good. Did great. You're doing great. Great
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: job from the spouse of a Kenyan alum. Who else
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: wants to go? Okay, I'll come over to you. Oh,
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: we have some more RFK material, that's fun. Hi, yeah, hi, here,
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: read this card.
• 49:12
  Speaker 11: RFK Jr. recently faced blowback after going for a swim
• 49:15
  Speaker 11: in DC's Rock Creek. Oh, I'm sorry, I read that wrong.
• 49:19
  Speaker 11: After swimming in DC, Rock Creek, RFK Jr. back blew
• 49:23
  Speaker 11: out from diarrhea.
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: What did you think of that one, Tim?
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: The execution on the read wasn't great, so I missed
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: the punchline. Oh, my God.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Shame.
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: Shame.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Shame.
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: Shame.
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: I'm in the crowd now. It feels awesome. Wait, who
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: else wants to go? Okay, I'll come over to you. Oh,
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: my legs do look great. Thank you. Hi. Okay. Read
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: this next one about RFK Jr.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Say what you will about RFK Jr., but he's truly
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: killing it.
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: And by it, I mean the entire herd of deer
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: he's hit with his car and stashed in his trunk
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: for later. That was a good read.
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: What do you think?
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: Sarah, what did you think of that one? Well, I
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: think it was well-read. Well-delivered. Oh, look at that. Look
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: at that. Okay. Who wants to go next?
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: Who wants to?
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi. Okay.
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: Hi, hi.
• 50:17
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: Oh, Sarah and Tim, we have two Mike Johnson jokes
• 50:20
  Speaker 6: that are in the same kind of vein.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: And we couldn't decide, so you're going to pick your favorite.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: Joke number one.
• 50:27
  Speaker 7: Oh, great.
• 50:28
  Speaker 6: I have to read?
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: Mike Johnson.
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: Well, what did you think was going to happen when
• 50:31
  Speaker 6: you raised your fucking hand?
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: No, you're out.
• 50:34
  Speaker 6: Okay, okay, okay, okay.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay.
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: I'm a nervous reader.
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: English is my second language.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: Mike Johnson threw all of his weight behind one big,
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: beautiful bill this month.
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: He also helped pass the budget reconciliation package.
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: That one's a thinker. She did great.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: What?
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: I don't understand. He put all his weight behind big,
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: beautiful Bill. Bill is a guy. A man named Bill.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: And it's not a great sign. We have to explain
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: the joke, but I really enjoyed it. That was a
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: joke for one. That was kind of like my Troye
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Sivan joke earlier. It was only for me. Okay.
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: Well, let's try this one.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: You want to go?
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Mike Johnson uses an app where he and his son
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: monitor each other's porn use, presumably to prevent him from
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: looking at one big, beautiful guy named Bill.
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: That's good.
• 51:28
  Speaker 7: I forgot about that.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: First one. First one was way better.
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: First one.
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: First one.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Hi, hi, hi.
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: Okay, here.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: High-minded.
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: Dan Bongino, FBI Deputy Director. You're right, Dan Bongino. Epstein
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: did kill himself after listening to your shitty podcast.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Got him. I like that.
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: Got him.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: Now, that's combining a couple of my interests. I will say,
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: I want everyone to know something. I believe that is
• 51:54
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• 51:58
  Speaker 6: read it. And, you know, next time, it's one for
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: me and then one for you. Okay.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, hi, hi, hi.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: I'm so sweaty.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, there's so many people over here.
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  Speaker 2: Love it. Are you going to have enough energy for
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: the club later?
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  Speaker 6: Hey!
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Think about that swamp ass. What happens if things get
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: a little frisky tonight?
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: We'll be right back. Up next, Sarah gets into it
• 52:30
  Speaker 6: with Congressman Robert Garcia.
• 52:32
  Speaker 8: Yes.
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• 54:34
  Speaker 4: Please welcome Congressman Robert Garcia from California.
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: You sit right here.
• 54:43
  Speaker 7: My drink's right here. My friend, thank you for being here.
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: Happy to be here.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: You know, I have been so impressed with you because
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: you have been very vocal.
• 54:52
  Speaker 7: You've been outspoken.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: You've been somebody who's been standing up and saying something
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: about Andre and what's happening.
• 54:57
  Speaker 7: Tell me why.
• 54:57
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Cheer.
• 55:01
  Speaker 7: Tell me why it upset you so much. Tell me
• 55:03
  Speaker 7: why you got vocal.
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: Absolutely. I mean, first, thank you all for being here.
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: Andre is such, especially during Pride Month, this is such
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: an important story for all of us to uplift and
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: to push. This is what's happening right now. should be
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: alarming and concerning every single person in this country. And
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: what's happening, every single person. So for me, I obviously
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: as a openly gay person, I'm also an immigrant. I
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: came to this country as a young kid. And so
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: I feel very much I can relate and I connect
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: to his story. And what drives me absolutely crazy is
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: that we, the United States government, gave Andre the appointment.
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: We told him, come to the United States at a
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: port of entry on this date and on this time
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: for your asylum process and interview. We told him to
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: come to the interview. So he comes to the port
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: of entry and to do his interview, he passes that
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: first check, essentially that first interview process, and then after that,
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: He gets, of course, sent to the detention center and
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: then taken to a country that he is not from
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: in a foreign prison that we know nothing about with
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: no proof of life. That is shameful. Donald Trump, Kristi Noem,
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: Marco Rubio should all be ashamed of themselves. They're causing
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: massive harm, not just to Andrew, but to everybody else.
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: And we.
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: This fires me up because I don't understand how we
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: can be so cruel as a country. This is a
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: country that was built largely on immigrant labor, and we
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: know this to be true. And I remember, you know,
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: we went down to El Salvador to advocate for not
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: just Andrew, but to ensure that people were getting their
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: due process. And I think what's really important, what I've
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: told folks, including some more conservative members and Republicans, I've said, Look,
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: regardless of your opinion on the immigration debate, and we
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: all have different opinions, this is about due process. This
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: is about the Constitution of the United States and whether
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: we're going to defend it. And I remember looking at
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: the ambassador, the U.S. ambassador to El Salvador, in El Salvador,
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: just directly at him. We were this close away from
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: each other. And I shared with him Andre's story. And
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: he looked right back to me and said, you know,
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: this is the first I've, I've heard this and I'm
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: sitting here thinking we've been promoting and talking about him
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: and people are talking about him across the country. And
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: this is the first that you were hearing about his
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: story and he, that part. And he, you know, he,
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: that day told me that he would be, he would
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: do an inquiry and he actually did the first official
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: inquiry to try to get a wellness check on him,
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: which of course we never got. Um, and so since
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: then to now, the work you're all doing, to telling
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: his story is so important. We cannot forget him. We
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: must get a proof of life. We are demanding a
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: proof of life check. And I'm just grateful just to
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: be a part of advocating for him and his story.
• 58:26
  Speaker 7: Well, thank you for doing that. And thank you for
• 58:28
  Speaker 7: being here.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: You know, they are bringing, we just found out, we
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: just found out they're going to bring Kilmar Abrego-Garcia back
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: and they're going to try him, which is just, that
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: is it, right? I think the Republicans right now are
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: sort of like, oh, we're going to show you that
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: this is a bad guy. And I'm sort of like,
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: I don't care if he's a bad guy, because.
• 58:47
  Speaker 7: He still deserves due process. Like, that is what we're
• 58:50
  Speaker 7: doing here, right?
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 58:51
  Speaker 7: Like, if he's a bad guy, prove it, and then
• 58:54
  Speaker 7: we can all move on.
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: That's exactly right.
• 58:58
  Speaker 7: Look, I spent a long time as a Republican.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: And I haven't seen it for maybe a decade now,
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: but when I was coming up as a Republican, they
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: talked a lot about the Constitution, about due process, about
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: the rule of law, about all these things that matter.
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: to them that became sort of the, that were the
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: underpinnings of democracy. How do your Republican colleagues justify sending people,
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: disappearing them, to foreign countries without due process?
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: Well, I think, I mean, they can't. I mean, the
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: reality is is that they, they're completely focused on doing
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: whatever Donald Trump tells them to do, following their leader.
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: And they know, and many of them know, that the
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: things they're advocating for are against the Constitution. I mean,
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: the Constitution means nothing to them anymore. And I really
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: believe this. There are probably other immigrants here in this theater.
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: And I truly believe this, that immigrants, those of us
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: that have gone through the process of becoming US citizens,
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: we are some of the most patriotic people in this country.
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: We love this country. And I think, you know, I
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: have the right to be a U.S. citizen and get
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: the honor of serving in Congress because I fought for citizenship.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: I fought for the thing that most folks here were
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: born with. So immigrants that go through that process believe
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: in this country and we want to fight for it.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: And so in the case of these Republicans, I mean,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: they most have been born into this incredible honor and
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: privilege of being a United States citizen and forget where
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: their parents or their grandparents lived. came from and the
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: struggles that they had to go through to also come
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: to this country. And I'll say this, and you mentioned
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: the Abrego Garcia case. We have the Supreme Court in
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: a nine to zero decision said that he deserved his
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: due process. And the important thing is, is everyone deserves
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: their day in court. I don't know what Mr. Abrego
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: Garcia did or didn't do, But he does have a
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: right under the Constitution to defend himself in front of
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: a judge and a courtroom. He has that right. And
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: so whether what he did or what he didn't do,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: that will be up to a judge and a jury.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: What we have to do, and every single person in
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: this room needs to do, is to defend the Constitution
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: of the United States, which affords, as we all know,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: all persons... not just U.S. citizens, it affords all persons
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: in this country the right to due process. And we
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: can't forget that.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 7: The founders knew what they were doing when they said
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 7: all persons. They knew.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: You know, I was just, we did a rally right
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: before this. Maybe some of you were there, but I
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: do just want to say something.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: That I said there.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, great.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 7: Thank you for coming. Thank you for coming. It was
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 7: my first, like I said, my first rally, my first protest.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: But, you know.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: When you came up as a young Republican, I swear
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: to God, Republicans were different on immigration than they are now.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: I remember, I'm telling you, Reagan used to say, he
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: had this great line about how you could go to
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: Japan and you'd never be Japanese. And you could move
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: to France and you'd never be a Frenchman. But any
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: person with freedom in their heart who loved the ideals
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: of America could come be an American. And that was
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: a thing that we people agreed was an American value.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna quote Reagan up here.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: All right, so tell me, this is something I've wondered,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: and a lot of people ask at the shows, they
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: all wanna know what can I do, and one of
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: the things they ask is they're like, I don't know,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: I call my congressman, but I don't know if it matters.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 7: You're a congressman, tell us, does it matter when people call?
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: It does matter, and I think that we and all others,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: especially folks that are engaged, we track what folks that call,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: what they're calling about, it does matter. What we also need, though,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: we need folks to call Republicans. We need folks to
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: call those Republican members that need to be held accountable
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: for just blindly supporting Donald Trump's policies. And we have
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: to understand that at this moment, we have to be engaged.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: And I will tell you this right now, what's happening
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: tonight and telling Andrew's story, please share his story. We
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: have an opportunity also during Pride Month where there's more
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: attention on our stories and to uplift what's happening to him.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: Because we know it's not just about him, but he
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: does represent that idea of due process. And by uplifting him,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: we're uplifting due process. We're uplifting the constitution and trying
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: to make our country and the world a better place.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah. I have one last important question.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 11: Sure.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 7: So you were very involved, um.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: In ousting a colleague of yours named George Santos, a.k.a.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 7: Quintara Ravage?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 7: What was the reason.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: For that gay on gay violence, man?
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: I have so many George Santos stories, we'd be here
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: all night. But I'll just start. I met him, I
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: met George during our orientation. And, you know, first I
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: was struck, of course, I'm obviously gay Latino. And on
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: the other side is another gay Latino. And I thought, well,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: maybe there's an opportunity here just to have some bipartisan friendship.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know. I knew that his ideas
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: were already pretty extreme. And so I generally try not
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: to engage with people that don't believe in human rights
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: for LGBTQ plus people and other folks. And as we
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: learned more and more about him, I just got really
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: angry about it. And I thought, this is someone that
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: is working to dismantle our rights, and yet you're from
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: the same community. And so pretty early on, I mean,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: I was a freshman. I made the very first expulsion
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: motion on the floor of the house to expel George Santos.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: And I submitted. And everyone, a lot of folks were like,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: this is a bad idea. You're a freshman. You shouldn't
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: do this. And I was like, fuck it. We got
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: to lean in. We got to do it. And I
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: remember we filed the resolution and we forced a vote.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: And that initial vote that we took is what then
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: got Kevin McCarthy at the time to then take that motion,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: table it, send it to the Ethics Committee for them
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: to do their report. The Ethics Committee does their report.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: And then months later, once that report comes out, it
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: triggered that second motion. expulsion vote, that then they.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 7: Because the report came out and everybody was like, I'm sorry, what?
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: Exactly. And then that came, and then that came out,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: and then of course we expelled him. Really quickly, the
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: day of the vote, I went to the back of
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: the house with him, and he wanted to talk. I said, okay,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: let's talk. So we go to the back by the cloakroom,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: and we're about to vote to expel him within 30 minutes.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 6: That's awkward. Yeah.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: And obviously, I helped start the whole thing. And so
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: we're in the back and he's trying to convince me
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: still that he shouldn't get expelled. And I looked him
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: right in the eye and I said, George, I said,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: one is you deserve to be expelled. But I also
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: hope that you can reflect and you take this time
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: to think about who you are and that And deep down, like,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: I want you to get better. Like, I want... There
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: was a moment, like, where I felt I was just
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: looking at somebody that was really sad. And it doesn't
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: excuse the horrific things that he has done or voted on.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: And he should be held accountable for those. And he's
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: now going to be held accountable for the crimes he committed.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 7: He's been indicted.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: Exactly. But there was a moment where I, you know,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: I did feel... So us as gay people, as queer people...
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: We sometimes have a very hard path to getting to
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: who we really are. And so I felt a little
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: bit for him. And I'm glad he is going to
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: be held accountable for what he did. And I hope
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: that on his way out, he works on himself.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: You have a good heart, man. Guys, let's give it up.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 7: All right. Thank you so much.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: Happy pride.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: Happy pride.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: I got to tell you.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 6: Thank you so much.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: Congressman, I have to... I got to tell you, I
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: thought that... What?
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 10: What?
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: I couldn't let Lovett be the only one in a
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: fucking skirt. I'll stand here. I couldn't be showing up
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: by Lovett.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 6: Tim, you're blocking.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: You just stood right in front. I'm sorry if this
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: is inappropriate.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: You just stood right in front of Sarah.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Is Sarah still here? I was thinking that George Santos'
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: cloakroom story was going to go somewhere else. I got
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: to tell you.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: I thought you were building to something.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not. We went to the cloakroom. We're in a
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: dark place.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 6: I hope you get help. What did he say?
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: No, I think that he was just, I mean, honestly,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: he was really upset and sad. And he said, thank you.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: I hope I do too. Something to that effect. And
• 1:08:01
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  Speaker 6: for a game we're calling Capture the Flag.
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  Speaker 2: Nope, okay.
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  Speaker 6: There we go, oh wow.
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  Speaker 10: Now.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, you guys were very generous to yourselves there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that looks about right for me.
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  Speaker 6: That's just me after a pump. Get my pump on,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 6: get the lighting right. That's all it takes. Now, we
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 6: can't just do this with gays alone because it's time
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 6: to pit the gays against the straights. So we need
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 6: some support.
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 6: Let's start by bringing out one additional member of our
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 6: gay family to help us round out your team. This
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 6: will be Sarah and Tim. Let's please welcome to the
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 6: stage DC's own wonderful drag queen, Tara Hoots.
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  Speaker 2: Woo! Woo! Oh, hey. Hey, girl.
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  Speaker 6: What's happening? Why don't you go right here for now?
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  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 12: Just in case there's confusion, I'm a man in a dress.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 7: Literally, three men.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 6: I'm the only one in pants. Well, you know, like, look,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: when Crooked and the Bulwark were deciding to figure out
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 6: how to do this event, we were like, well, We
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 6: got to figure out who to talk to. And we said,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 6: who wears the pants at the Boulware?
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  Speaker 9: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: That should have worked better. That was pearls before swine.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 6: Sometimes it's my fault. That one's on you. Tara Hoots. Yes, darling.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 6: I love that. Now you're from, is it from Terre Haute, Indiana?
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  Speaker 12: I was born in Terre Haute, Indiana. Hence my name,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 12: Terre Haute. Yes. Are you Hoosiers out there?
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 14: Yes.
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  Speaker 12: We got out. We got out, darlings.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 6: Yes. Now, you are a renowned D.C. queen, and you
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 6: were bumped off the Kennedy Center programming schedule by its
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 6: new artistic director and genius, Donald Trump. No space on
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: the sketch?
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 12: So we... Actually, I was part of a drag show
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 12: that was... Trump got really mad about the family-specific one.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 12: That was one that I was involved in.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 6: And he was angry because he thought... It would be
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 6: inappropriate to have somebody out there talking about drugs and
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 6: all the horrible things that someone might say in the
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 6: space of children.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 12: Now, I've been a teacher for 27 years. Yes, thank you.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 12: And I've been a drag queen since the pandemic. And
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 12: I describe my type of drag as like Mr. Rogers
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 12: in a dress, right? And I just want to lift
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 12: people up. And if they complain about what I do,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 12: they don't know what I do.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 6: But what do you do?
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 12: Basically, I started doing drag because I thought the world
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 12: was terrible. And it really hasn't changed, has it? During
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 12: the pandemic, I wanted to lift people up and bring
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 12: joy and love to people. So that's what I do
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 12: with my drag.
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  Speaker 6: Well, thank you for being here.
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  Speaker 12: Absolutely. Let's do this.
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  Speaker 6: Now, we need to do some choreography, so I would
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 6: love to have the gay team come over here. Right.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, hold on.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 6: So can we get Tara Hoots and Sarah and Tim
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  Speaker 6: in this zone over here, because it's time to meet
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 6: your competitors.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Bring it on, straights.
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  Speaker 6: How you doing, girl? Now, first up.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: You really good. You really got lucky. You would have
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: had to hang out with Rick Grinnell had they kept
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: you at the Kennedy Center.
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  Speaker 6: Big, best firing ever happened to you. Now I want
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 6: to bring out two, I believe they're called, I think
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 6: it's pronounced straight. The G is silent.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: It's weird.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 6: It's actually weird that the G is silent. There's a
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 6: G inside of straight. There's a G inside of every
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 6: straight when you think about it. Something to think about.
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  Speaker 6: So please welcome, from the bulwark, Sam Stein, and.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: Come on out, Sam. Come on out.
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  Speaker 3: And.
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  Speaker 12: Sam!
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  Speaker 4: Sam!
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  Speaker 2: Yeah! Dressed like a lesbian. Kind of an L, really.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: And because Sam is straight, but in a journalist way,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 6: we wanted to bring out a man.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: So....
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 6: Please welcome Michael Fanone, who.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: Is a hero. Come on, Michael!
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 6: And a former Capitol Police officer.
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  Speaker 2: Now that is a man!
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  Speaker 3: Yeah!
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  Speaker 2: Take it off, girl.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you, Michael, for being here.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: Take it off. Let's unbutton a couple of those buttons.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: Look at this.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 6: Look at this. Michael, I have a question for you.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: They love you.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 6: Have you found it helpful to get tips on how
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 6: to be a man from Jesse Waters?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 6: That's a straight man. That's a straight man right there.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 6: Now, I do want to say that you have a
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 6: little bit of advantage in this game, because we were
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 6: talking before the show, and you have some experience. This
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 6: is true. You did have to go undercover. Is this right?
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: I did.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: 2011, 2012, I spent....
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  Speaker 8: Two summers undercover working in some of your fond gay
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 8: clubs right here.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: In Washington, D.C. What was your favorite?
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 8: We talked about this backstage.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: My favorite was Apex. Oh, hell yeah. The video bar.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: That video bar got real.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 6: Now, you were saying that you were working with another officer, right?
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 6: I was. And now the first time you did it,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 6: you went in and... Why don't you tell us what happened?
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: All right, so....
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 6: This is good stuff. Spare no detail.
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  Speaker 8: I got detail to the second district, the great second
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 8: district here in Washington, D.C.
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  Speaker 2: For the summer.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 8: They were having an influx of crystal meth in a lot.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: Of the gay— Tina, we call it. Tina. Yeah, yeah, Tina.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 8: So I go— Not for me. So it was me
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 8: and one of my buddies who was assigned to the
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 8: 6th District, which is east of the Anacostia River. And
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 8: the two of us got temporarily detailed at 2D, and
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 8: we were part of this investigation, and we were going
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 8: into a bunch of different gay clubs. The first club
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 8: we went to was Fireplace. And so this is like
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 8: my first experience inside of.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 8: You know, a place such as this. And, yeah, I
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 8: remember going in there and I was like, all right,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 8: I told him I'm not going to name names, but
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 8: we'll call him Bill. I was like, well, we're going
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 8: to divide and conquer. I was like, we don't know
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 8: each other. We're going into the place. We're both going
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 8: to go in. You know, we're pros. We've been buying crack, heroin,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 8: everything else.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: Like, we can do this. And so we get into
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: the club.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 8: I sit down at the bar and like within five
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 8: shit seconds, there's like some, one guy's like holding my
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 8: hand and another guy's like literally like kissing on my earlobe.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 8: And I was like, all right, well, I'm just trying
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 8: to buy some fucking drugs. So, so we came, we
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 8: came back.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: I could just hear Michael Fanone being, not that kind
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: of crack.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: But I.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 8: Was like, yeah, whatever. Is this what I got to
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 8: do to, you know, get the buy? I've done worse things.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: With, you know, whatever. Anyway, so the next day we
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: go back. The next day we go back, and.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 8: I think we hit Apex, and we went to Nelly's
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 8: and a couple other spots, but we were like, We're
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 8: a fucking couple. And we're in a monogamous, we're in
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 8: a fucking monogamous relationship.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: Like that's ever stopped anybody.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 6: At Nelly's before incredible incredible so I can't think of
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 6: a better straight person to join Sam in being part
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 6: of this game now here's how it works I'm gonna
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 6: ask the gays questions about straights I'm gonna ask straights
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 6: questions about gays we'll see who takes it in the
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 6: end You have filthy fucking minds.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: All right. A lot of cards there.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 6: I also have a card that just says, loose lesbian questions.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 6: First question for the gays.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 6: Now, do you go by, do I say Tara?
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 12: Yes, you can call Tara.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 6: Tara?
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 12: Or Ms. Hoot, whatever works for you. Hoots or Hoot? Hoot.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 10: Ms.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: Hoot.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 12: I like Ms.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: Hoot.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 12: Thank you.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 12: Like Tara Hoot.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 6: Okay, first up. Director and Madison Square Garden staple Spike
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 6: Lee recently said he would give up an Oscar to
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 6: see what happened.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: The Knicks win the championship.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he got it. He got it. He got it.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 12: There you go.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: I was born gay.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 12: But the Pacers.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: You're a big Larry Bird fan.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 12: Yeah. Hick from French Lick.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: Pacers win last night. I know.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 11: Tyrese Allen.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 12: Last second shot. Last second shot, baby. I'm from a
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 12: town that has two Mr. Basketballs from Indiana, so try me.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 12: All right, yes.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 7: Are there any questions about women's soccer?
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: We're getting the straight... We get the straight questions. Straight
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: men do not watch women's soccer, except for the Brandi Carlile,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: or whatever her name was.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 6: You're talking to a shoe. I'm an Angel City season
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 6: ticket holder, thank you very much. All right.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: Because... 1-0.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 6: All right, you're up. A new Pew Research study shows
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 6: that LGBTQ Americans are twice as likely to be into astrology.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: In astrology, your big three consist of your rising sign,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 6: your sun sign, and your what? Don't Google it. Don't
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 6: Google it.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: You don't know. Tomato soup?
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 13: No.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 6: What the? Call it out. It's their moon sign. Now,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: I will just also say to all of you that
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 6: believe in astrology, you're welcome that you get to live
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 6: in the light that science fucking provides you. Unbelievable. Next up,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 6: for the gays. What brand makes these iconic patterned bags?
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 11: Oh, wait.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 6: I heard someone say, shut up. Straight culture. What is this?
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: You don't know.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: They don't know. What in the fuck is this?
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: That is hideous.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 6: That's so interesting, right? Because Sarah is a woman.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 12: I should know.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 6: But she doesn't know because she's not a straight woman.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 7: Is that a purse?
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 6: What is it?
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: Flower power.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 12: It's not Lily Pooh.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 6: They don't know either. I see a straight woman raising
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 6: her hand. What is it? It's Vera Bradley. Vera Bradley.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Tara whispers to me, she goes, is
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: it Vera Wang?
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 12: I heard Vera out there.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think Wang is in there.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 6: Next up, Euphoria star Hunter Schaefer is rumored to be
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 6: up for the titular role of what video game adaptation?
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 6: That's so hard. Yeah, that's right. A video game adaptation
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 6: starring Hunter Schaefer from Euphoria. You know her. Don't you,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 6: Michael Fanone?
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: This shit is rigged. Is this The Last of Us?
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 6: No, it's not The Last of Us.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: It's Zelda.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 6: It's The Legend of Zelda. It's The Legend of Zelda.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a Zelda.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: Did you know that one?
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: None of your business.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 6: It's 1-0.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't think their questions were going to be things like,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: what do poppers do for you during sex? I thought
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: it was going to be a little gayer.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: You know what?
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 6: Next question, what do poppers do? That must have come
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 6: up in your research as you got into character.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: Was this done undercover?
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: Manner of ingestion.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: Inhaled.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 6: And they provide a temporary euphoria. Okay, yeah.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: But what about during sex, though? Also known as amyl nitrate.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: We got a point for that.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 6: I'm giving it to him. All right.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: 1-1.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 6: Great job. Back over to the gays. Country singer Morgan
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 6: Wallen posted what phrase to his Instagram after appearing to
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 6: storm off the Saturday Night Live stage back in April?
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 6: I gotta get back to real America.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 12: God's country.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 6: God's country. God's country. A lesbian saved by a drag queen.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 6: A first time for everything.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 6: Next question. For the straights, what is this object?
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 8: I know.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 5: Is that a carabiner?
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 6: You got it, Sam Stein. I was going to say that.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 8: I was going to say carabiner, but then I was thinking, like,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 8: this has got to be some weird sex fucking thing.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 6: That's an anal bead. Lesbians don't do sex. I didn't know.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 7: We use it to carry our keys.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 5: To your Subaru.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 6: To the gays, what two kinds of alcohol are in
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 6: a Manhattan? Whiskey and sweet vermouth. You got it!
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: Yes!
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 6: The drag queens are carrying them. Drag queens carrying them.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 6: All right, another drag-themed question for our straights. Please name
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 6: one of these two drag queens. incredibly popular, have an
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 6: incredibly popular podcast. Don't say a word. Don't say a
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 6: fucking word. Can you name one of these people? Oh
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 6: my fucking God. They are famous. They are celebrities. We
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 6: all know them. We love them. You don't even know
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 6: who they are. Oh my God. I have no idea
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 6: who these people are.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: You have no idea?
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 7: No, I have no idea.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 6: You don't know either?
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 7: I have no idea.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 6: Sarah, go over here.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: I've never seen them.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: Shame.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: Shame.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 6: Shame.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: Shame. Shame. Shame. We're done with the L's.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 6: I really like Sam's shirt.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 7: I would wear Sam's shirt.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: Get the L's out of here. I have no clue.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 10: Wow.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: Gotcha.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 12: Trixie Mattel, baby.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 6: The game has now been revised to tops versus bottoms.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 6: All right, back over to the gays.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: What side are we on?
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 6: Last week, this Yellowstone spinoff starring Harrison Ford and Helen
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: Mirren aired its season two finale. What is the name
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 6: of the show? It has numbers. It's like 1862 or something.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 6: Set during Prohibition.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 12: It's numbers.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: Yellowstone? I think it's 1860.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 6: 1862?
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: 1945.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 8: 1935.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: 1876.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 6: Wrong.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: 1923.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 6: Oh, we were close.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 7: I knew it.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: All right. What is with you people and like horses
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: and fucking buffalo? Who cares what's happening on the plains?
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 6: This one, honestly, I'm nervous.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 6: What year did the Stonewall Riots happen?
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 12: It was in the 60s.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 6: That's your one in ten shot from here on out.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 6: In the late 60s.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go with 69.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: You got it, Sam Stein.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: Somebody gave him the answer.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: That's okay. We'll let him have it. We'll let him
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: have it.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 12: Judy Garland died that year.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: Let's close this out. Nobody cares if you know the
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: answer to the question, okay? It's a competition up here.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: All right? So just fucking keep.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: It to yourself.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 6: That's right.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 12: I wanted to say that, but I can't because I'm
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 12: a good Christian woman.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 6: This is gonna be a question for both teams, okay?
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 6: This is it, we're tied.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 7: Bisexuals are not allowed to answer. It's a slow burn
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 7: on that one.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 6: What was the first lesbian wedding to take place on television?
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 6: Ellen DeGeneres.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 8: No.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: Fuck!
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 6: That's just a lesbian. That's just one lesbian. That's just
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 6: naming a lesbian you could think of.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: Name a lesbian.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 6: I didn't say name a lesbian. Michael Vanone, name a lesbian.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: Sarah.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 6: Sarah. I'm the only lesbian you've heard of?
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 6: Gays, you can take it if you know the answer.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 6: First lesbian wedding aired on television. Do either of you know?
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: I put you on the other team. What the fuck?
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: You don't know this one?
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 7: Hold on.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: This is bad, Sarah.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 6: Did Rosie O'Donnell marry someone?
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 12: I don't know.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: Was it in Dawson's Creek? God, no.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 6: Does anybody here know?
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: Friends.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 6: It was the Friends episode, the one with the lesbian wedding.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: And you know what?
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 6: Honestly, because we have all of pride, I want to
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 6: thank our straights for being willing to subject themselves.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 6: Michael Fanone. Sam Stein, two equally heterosexual men. Thank you
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 6: both so much.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 7: And we're back!
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 6: I've lost all my cards, but that's not important. First
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 6: of all, thank you all for coming out tonight. There
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 6: is nothing that brings Crooked and the Bulwark together quite
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 6: like ranting about whatever happens to be on our minds.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 6: And so we thought we would end tonight's show in
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 6: a way that was suited to our great desire for yelling.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 6: In a segment we're calling.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: Rant Wheel. The Rant Wheel?
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 6: What did we call it? I think we called it Bulwark... Whatever.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 6: There's a wheel and we're going to yell about topics.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 12: Oh, my God.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 6: Do we not have a wheel? Are we up to that?
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, here we go. Oh, my God.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 7: Oh, no.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 6: Tara Hoot, this is Pride. Is there something on your
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 6: mind that you'd like to vent about?
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 12: Just to be mad about?
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 6: Or happy about.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: Happy about?
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 6: Is there anything you'd like to be emotional about for
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 6: around 60 seconds?
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 12: Listen, okay, 60 seconds. A drag queen with a microphone,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 12: that's at least four minutes too short.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 8: All right?
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 12: So I do want to say, I did an event
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 12: on Wednesday with a drag artist, and the audience was
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 12: so excited and so enthused, and I really feel like Washington, D.C.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 12: needs a lot of hope and joy right now. And
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 12: I'm one of the.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 12: We need to look up, we need to find ways
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 12: to be inspired, even though things are falling apart sometimes
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 12: around us. And something I'm proud of, I'm going to
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 12: say that's just proud. I'm proud of, I got out
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 12: of Indiana. I'm proud of my friends who are in
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 12: Indiana still, in Newcastle, Indiana, who are fighting the good
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 12: fight and making the place better for people. I'm proud
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 12: of my husband, Mr. Hoot, who's in the wings, who
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 12: was a government worker for 37 years. He was forced
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 12: out of the federal government by this. And I'm like,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 12: I'm so mad at the people. If you are those
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 12: people that have been treated so poorly, know that I
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 12: see you. I love you. Thank you, our government workers,
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 12: for doing so much for everybody. I think that.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 12: I'm a little verklempt. But that just makes me so mad.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 12: I think it's evil, it's angry, and I want to
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 12: make sure that we're trying to lift people up and
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 12: look for the kindness when there seems to be such
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 12: a lack of it from who's running our country right now.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 6: It's a beautiful idea. It's a beautiful idea, a beautiful sentiment.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 6: Let's spin it again. It has landed on Sarah.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: It has landed on Sarah. We have an order.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 6: Is that Sarah? It has landed on Sarah.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: She's getting butch.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 7: You guys run a tight show. I'll tell you what, man.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: All right, I've had a rant. Last crooked bulwark collab.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 6: I actually had.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 4: Hoped you were going next because following that with mine
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 4: feels funny, but I'm gonna give you my rant unvarnished,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: which is, do we need to really like need a
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 4: whole month for pride?
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 14: Like, the way we do Brianette, like, our need for
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 14: a whole month is so extra and so on brand,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 14: and it's ridiculous what my Uber leaves a little rainbow
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 14: trail as it goes, and, like, you walk into Target, and.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 7: You're like, oh, my God, did a rainbow throw up
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 7: in here? Like, it just feels like, look, you want
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 7: to do Black History Month, whole month, okay.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: The people are getting restless.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 7: Oh wait, I'm sorry, did you just say I should stop?
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 6: They don't like Target, they're mad at Target. They're mad
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 6: at Target, they're mad at Target. All right, we got it.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 4: Whatever, whatever, the point is, the point is, I just
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: think like a week is enough, and we don't need
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 4: a whole month, and.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 7: Like, it's enough.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: Shame, shame, shame, shame, shame.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 4: I needed one of those tonight, and I decided it
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 4: would be on my rant.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 6: The second somebody tells you something you don't want to hear,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 6: you turn on them. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Let's spin it again. Oh,
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 6: it's landed on me. You know, here's what I wanted
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 6: to say. Maybe it was a little more earnest, I suppose.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 6: But we started by saying how many things had to
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 6: go wrong for us all to be on this stage together.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 6: There was this, when they sent up one of the
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 6: satellites many years ago, they realized that they had made
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 6: the mirrors wrong. Before Elon Musk, not his fault. That
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 6: they'd actually bent, they'd done the mirrors, they were spherical
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 6: instead of hyperbolic, or hyperbolic instead of spherical. I don't remember.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 6: Which one is it? It was spherical instead of hyperbolic.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 6: And what that meant is, even though it was imperceptible
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 6: when it was on Earth, the heat from that light
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 6: was so intense that it would shatter the mirror. It
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 6: didn't work. It didn't work as a telescope. And one
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 6: thing that I feel like I have learned over the
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 6: last decade as we faced all these different pressures and
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 6: challenges from what happens when a country segment of a
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 6: country loses its faith in democracy and freedom is you
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 6: see who bends and who breaks under pressure. And it
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 6: is a gift to find out who has the stuff
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 6: and who is strong enough and who really cares and
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 6: who actually believes the things that they said for a
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 6: long time. And I feel really honored that I get
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 6: to work with Sarah and work with Tim. People that,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 6: you know, You know, we Democrats, we Democrats, we talk
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 6: a big game. We talk a big game, but we
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 6: didn't really face a choice. We don't like Donald Trump
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 6: because he's the fucking worst human being on planet Earth.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 6: And we oppose him because we oppose everything that he
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 6: stands for, every policy he stands for. But there are
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 6: a lot of people who faced a political choice and
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 6: failed in that choice, but not Tim and not Sarah
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 6: and not the people at the bulwark. And as we
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 6: think about building a small D, democratic movement, I feel
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 6: really proud of the people that I've gotten to meet
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 6: and know because it's revealed who was made strong enough
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 6: and who was gonna break. And the people that have broken,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 6: they're fucking broken. And we know now. And now we
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 6: get to figure out who we get to build something
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 6: new with. So I feel really proud about that during
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 6: this Pride. Let's spin it. One more time.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be me.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 6: I think it's going to be me.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: Look, I just wasn't on the board at all.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we talked about it. We thought, how should we
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 6: end it? Two Tim rants, one John rant, drag queen,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 6: we're done.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, out. All right, Tim, land on you. I have
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: a rant, but just really quick. That was really sweet
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: what Lovett said, and I was trying to feel emotions
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: about it, and then I'm in this little tennis skirt,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: and I was like, Can you compliment me again when
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: I feel less uncomfortable? That would be great. Maybe another year.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: I also have a comment on Sarah's rant. It's the
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: difference between the L's and the G's. Okay. We're going
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: to Madrid Pride. Is anybody going to be in Madrid Pride?
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: We're doing a little vacation there. That's July 4th. So
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: the G's are adding a week to Pride. She's trying
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: to constrict us. We're trying to expand into July.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 10: Okay.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: I'm about to be sad for a little bit, so
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry that I have to end you on something sad.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: But the reason why we're doing this is because of Andre.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: I think there are two reasons why this has affected
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: me so much. One is because, kind of what Levitt
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: was saying, I came out of this tradition of being
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: pro-life and being pro-freedom and thinking that that was what.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: Was animating my political work. And Jeb used to say
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: something about how we wanted to make sure everybody had
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: a chance to live a life of purpose and meaning.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: And I believed that and thought it wasn't BS. And
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: so the idea that we are doing that, that Republicans,
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: that Donald Trump, that our country is taking away somebody's life,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: their purpose, and their meaning, really pisses me off. And
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: so that's one reason. And the other reason is just because...
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: I guess just because both me and Andre are gay,
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: I guess, I can just imagine it. And I just want,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry to do this, but I just want everybody
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: to imagine this with me for a second. He flees Venezuela.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: He flees communism. He takes a horrible journey across Central America,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: through Mexico, goes through unimaginable shit, has to deal with cartels,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: has to find food and shelter. just to get to America,
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: because he thinks here he can live a life of
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: purpose and meaning. He thinks he can be free. And
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: he gets to the border, and he does what he's
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: supposed to do. He signs up for the stupid CBP1
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: app and explains why he had to flee a communist country,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: and then we let him in. And he sits in
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: a cell, and he's sexually harassed in the cell, and
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: he is abused and attacked, and he is hoping that
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: it's worth it. Because at the end, there's this thing.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: There's this freedom in this country that he can get.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: And instead of that, one day he's in the cell.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: And people come in there. And they shackle him. And
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: they shackle his legs and his hands. And they take
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: him with other Venezuelans to a plane. And he's thinking,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: this is horrible.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 8: But.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: At least I'm going home to Venezuela, right? At least
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: I get to see my mother and my best friend.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: And instead of sending him to Venezuela, we send him
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: to a fucking hell in El Salvador. And he gets
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: off the plane and they beat him up and they
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: shave his head and he screams out for his freedom.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: And he says, I'm gay. I'm not a gangbanger. I like,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: I want just, you have the wrong person and there's
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: nothing you can do. And they put him in a
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: fucking hole and And he's living a nightmare that you
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: can't imagine. It is just an unimaginable nightmare. And the
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: reason that he's living it is our country, is that
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: we did it to him. The US did it to him.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: And so it's up to us to get him the
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: fuck out of this nightmare. And so, sorry. And so that,
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: I can't look at Love It right now because I'm
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: going to cry. And so that's why we're doing this.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: And I really appreciate that you all came. I appreciate
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: especially the gays that came because you could, you know,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know, have been at the music festival or
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: something more fun. And so the lesbians were going to
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: do something way less fun. So I appreciate you for
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: coming too, but also kind of you're welcome.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, look, here's the thing. The gays chose this instead
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 6: of a concert. The lesbians, they would have been asleep
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 6: by now.
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  Speaker 2: And so Sarah usually ends our Bulwark shows with something
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more uplifting. And so I want to
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: give her the last word.
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  Speaker 7: First of all, thanks everybody so much for coming. This
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  Speaker 7: has been super fun.
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  Speaker 4: And you guys were a great, awesome audience. But here's
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 4: the thing that we do close out most of the
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 4: Bulwark shows with. And I really want to thank Crooked, though,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 4: for us doing this together. This was so fun to
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 4: do together and to bring our audiences together. But, you know,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: the thing about authoritarians is what they want from us.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 7: That's not a joke. Authoritarians are bad.
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  Speaker 4: The thing about authoritarians is they want you to be tired.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 7: Not like I did poppers all night and now I'm
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 7: tired the next morning and I need brunch.
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  Speaker 4: They want you to feel... Like, deeply exhausted. That's why
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 4: they try to flood the zone with shit. It's why
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 4: they try to do so many corrupt things that you
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 4: don't know where.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 7: To grab onto, right? It's why they come back. They
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 7: didn't lose. Donald Trump didn't lose the election. He just
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 7: hadn't won yet.
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  Speaker 4: That's why they come back and they try to keep
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 4: you so tired that you won't fight back. So confused,
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 4: so unable to understand what is truth and what is fiction.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 4: And that's what they're doing to people, confusing them and
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 4: making them tired. And so the one thing that we
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 4: have to do, and it relates to the Andre thing,
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 4: is don't get tired, ever.
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  Speaker 6: Like, we have to stay.
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  Speaker 4: Filled with energy to do this because the biggest thing
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 4: they want from us is to be tired.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 7: So never get tired, never stop, and let's get Andre home.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you all so much for coming.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 6: That's our show. Thank you so much to Tara Hoot.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Tara.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you to Michael Venone and Sam Stein. Thank you
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 6: to Congressman Garcia. Thank you to Andre's lawyer and everybody
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 6: at the Immigrant Defenders Law Center. Thank you all for
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 6: supporting this. Have a great night. We'll see you at Pride.
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  Speaker 2: Bye, everybody.
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