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Speaker 1: He's the reform it.
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Speaker 2: Well, good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm
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Speaker 2: James Macpherson coming up tonight. Remember the United Nations climate
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Speaker 2: spokesman who lectured us all this week on cutting emissions. Well,
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Speaker 2: in his own country he voted to give tax breaks
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Speaker 2: to fossil fuel companies. Barnaby Joyce is pretty fired up
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Speaker 2: about that one. Donald Trump has nominated ambassadors for the
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Speaker 2: Mibia and the Bahamas, even for New Zealand. But what
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Speaker 2: does it mean he hasn't got around to nominating anybody
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Speaker 2: for Australia. I'll talk to Michael Schubridge about that. And
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Speaker 2: something very dangerous happened in the Senate today, the Government
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Speaker 2: refusing any discussion on a particular topic that.
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Speaker 3: They deemed harmful.
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Speaker 2: How do you have a parliamentary democracy where some topics
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Speaker 2: are deemed off limits? And a man faces court over
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Speaker 2: threats to kill UK politician Nigel Farage. Patrick Christie's will
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Speaker 2: join me from the UK with all the details. But first,
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Speaker 2: the Victorian government has once again tackled violent crime with
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Speaker 2: all the force of a wet tissue and the uncompromising.
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Speaker 3: Power of a bin.
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Speaker 2: No, that's not just a pithy rhetorical phrase on my part,
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Speaker 2: they're actually using a bin. Facing a surge in machete attacks,
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Speaker 2: including earlier this month when a man lost his hand
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Speaker 2: after being attacked for his mobile phone, Premier Justin to
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Speaker 2: Allan has announced her boldest idea yet, a machete amnesty.
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Speaker 2: She boasted today that her government had set up dozens
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Speaker 2: of metal bins where criminals could voluntarily turn their weapons
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Speaker 2: over to police. Picture it as crime fighting by suggestion box.
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Speaker 2: Now I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, Come on, James,
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Speaker 2: as if hardened criminals are going to just hand over
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Speaker 2: their machetes, will just Siner Allan is one step ahead
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Speaker 2: of you. Realizing that gang members and people involved in
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Speaker 2: violent robberies might be reticent to come forward and give
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Speaker 2: up their machetes, she devised a plan so cunning it
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Speaker 2: would be impossible for any criminals to refuse. Located the
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Speaker 2: bins right out front of police stations, with twenty four
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Speaker 2: hour surveillance cameras filming everyone who decides to hand over
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Speaker 2: a blade.
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Speaker 3: What criminal wouldn't love that? But wait, it gets better.
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Speaker 2: The special bins are labeled Machete Amnesty Safe Disposal Bins,
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Speaker 2: which I thought was a nice touch, because it's very
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Speaker 2: well known that violent gang members are extremely safety conscious.
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Speaker 2: Imagine how many hurdles of logic and critical thinking you
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Speaker 2: would have to clear in order to arrive at the
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Speaker 2: point where you not only set up machety amnesty bins,
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Speaker 2: but you gloat about it on social media. Premier just
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Speaker 2: sent to Allen posted on her Twitter account quote machetes
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Speaker 2: destroy lives, so we're taking them off the streets. Well, actually,
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Speaker 2: no criminals destroy lives. Machetes are inanimate objects. But of course,
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Speaker 2: removing violent offenders from the streets requires more than installing
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Speaker 2: glorified rubbish bins and tweeting about it. Alongside of a
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Speaker 2: photo of one of her machete amnesty bins, the Victorian
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Speaker 2: Premier wrote, and I quote, we're enacting this ban and
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Speaker 2: boosting Victoria police's powers because community safety always comes first. Well,
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Speaker 2: if safety comes first looks like an amnesty bin, I'd
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Speaker 2: hate to see what safety in Victoria would look like
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Speaker 2: if it wasn't a priority. So yeah, I'm a little
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Speaker 2: skeptical about this plan working. Others, though, are far more optimistic.
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Speaker 2: One of Victoria's top policemen offered encouraged rather parents to
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Speaker 2: go through their teenager's things and if they happen to
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Speaker 2: stumble upon a machete, simply toss it.
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Speaker 3: Into the nearest bin.
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Speaker 2: Assistant Commissioner Brett Curran said this earlier today.
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Speaker 4: These bins provide an opportunity for families who might be
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Speaker 4: concerned about the things their kids have to get those machetes, knives,
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Speaker 4: bring them down to the center from the first of
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Speaker 4: September and put them in those bins.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if parents are concerned about their kids machetes, they
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Speaker 2: could go grab them. And I suppose if they're concerned
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Speaker 2: about their kids guns, explosives or collection of stolen cars,
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Speaker 2: they could hand those in as well, maybe before they
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Speaker 2: sit down as a family for their traditional Sunday roast.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, Premier, just into Alan as you would expect.
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Speaker 2: Back to the call.
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Speaker 5: As a parent, I know kids can be challenging from
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Speaker 5: time to time when they've got something they want to.
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Speaker 3: Do, like running around with a machete.
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Speaker 2: When I think of kids being challenged or challenging, I'm
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Speaker 2: thinking of kids who don't want to eat their veggies,
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Speaker 2: or who want to have a sleepover on.
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Speaker 3: A school night.
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Speaker 2: And as a parent, you know if your kid is
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Speaker 2: running around Melbourne with a machete. They're not going to
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Speaker 2: pop it into just into Alan's bin, because will you
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Speaker 2: ask them to. Honestly, you couldn't make this stuff up
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Speaker 2: except the Victorian government.
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Speaker 3: They just did.
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Speaker 6: Well.
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Speaker 2: By now you've probably heard there's momentum toward recognizing a
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Speaker 2: Palestinian state. Not peace, not stability, not even a care
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Speaker 2: and plan, just momentum that mastiffurious political force so powerful
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Speaker 2: it overrides facts, history, national interest and even basic logic.
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Speaker 6: Momentum appears to really be building.
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Speaker 7: This progress, this momentum, and that momentum is significant momentum
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Speaker 7: to make it real.
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Speaker 3: The proposal has been gaining momentum.
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Speaker 8: I personally welcome the momentum, the progress that's being made
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Speaker 8: in the international community towards the recognition of the state
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Speaker 8: of Palestine.
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Speaker 2: We're told there's momentum for recognized a Palestinian state, and so,
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Speaker 2: like all things gathering speed, the only appropriate response.
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Speaker 3: Is to jump aboard.
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Speaker 2: Apparently, international policy now operates according to the laws of physics.
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Speaker 3: France started it, of.
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Speaker 2: Course, leaping into the Middle East with the elegance of
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Speaker 2: a ballerina in Birkenstocks, the land that brought us fine wine,
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Speaker 2: flaky croissants, and foreign policy so buttery it melts. Under pressure,
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Speaker 2: declared they would recognize a Palestinian state in September unconditionally,
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Speaker 2: because nothing says principal stand like giving statehood to a
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Speaker 2: divided territory where is run by corrupt bureaucrats and the
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Speaker 2: other half by MGI hardists chanting death to Israel when
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Speaker 2: not stealing food from their own people. But no matter,
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Speaker 2: the important thing isn't what France said, it's that they
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Speaker 2: said it, And just like that, momentum was born. In
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Speaker 2: quick time, leaders across the world began gently clearing their
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Speaker 2: throats and muttering the word momentum like it was some
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Speaker 2: sacred chant. Q the UK, where Prime Minister Kirs Starmer,
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Speaker 2: sensing momentum, didn't want to miss the bandwagon. He promptly
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Speaker 2: announced he too was warming to the idea of statehood
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Speaker 2: for Palestine.
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Speaker 9: So today, as part of this process towards peace, I
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Speaker 9: can confirm the UK will recognize the state of Palestine
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Speaker 9: by the United Nations General Assembly in September unless the
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Speaker 9: Israeli government takes substantive steps to end the appalling situation
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Speaker 9: in Gaza.
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Speaker 2: And today Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney joined in the chorus.
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Speaker 10: For the reason, as I sated earlier, Canada intends to
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Speaker 10: recognize the state of Palestine at the eightiest Session of
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Speaker 10: the United Nations General Assembly in September twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 2: It's not leadership, it's choreography. What began as a vague
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Speaker 2: not of approval from one European nation became a gravitational force,
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Speaker 2: dragging entire governments into a policy they can't define and
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Speaker 2: clearly haven't thought through. Recognition of a Palestinian state is
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Speaker 2: so poorly thought through, in fact, it probably isn't even legal.
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Speaker 2: Some of the UK's most respected lawyers have written to
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Speaker 2: Kirstarmer warning that recognizing a Palestinian state would break international law.
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Speaker 2: They've pointed out that international law says a state must
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Speaker 2: possess four things a defined territory, a permanent population, a government,
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Speaker 2: and the capacity to enter into relations with other states.
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Speaker 2: Palestine awkwardly ticks exactly none of those boxes. There's no
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Speaker 2: agreement over the borders of a proposed Palistinean state, and
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Speaker 2: as for a permanent population, they pointed out the Palestinians
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Speaker 2: have always been regarded as refugees. If governments are now
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Speaker 2: suddenly recognizing Palestinians as a permanent population, then they should
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Speaker 2: be immediately stripped of refugee status and the billions of
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Speaker 2: dollars in funding that goes with that. The forty members
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Speaker 2: of the House of Lords also argue there's no functioning
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Speaker 2: single government to recognize half the territory the West wants
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Speaker 2: to recognize as Palestine is governed by a group the
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Speaker 2: West has prescribed as a terror group.
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Speaker 3: So here's where we've arrived.
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Speaker 2: The very nations that scream about Israel violating international law
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Speaker 2: in their treatment of the Palestinians now plan to break
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Speaker 2: international law in order to recognize a state of Palestine.
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Speaker 2: It's a perfect circle of stupidity. But then again, what
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Speaker 2: else can they do. There's momentum, momentum appears to really
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Speaker 2: be building this progress.
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Speaker 7: This momentum, and that momentum is significant momentum to make
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Speaker 7: it real.
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Speaker 3: The proposal has been getting momentum.
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Speaker 8: I personally welcome the momentum.
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Speaker 7: Moral momentum cannot be ignored.
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Speaker 2: Our own government is now so caught up in this
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Speaker 2: tsunami of international groupthink and is apparently powerless to.
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Speaker 8: Act recognition of the state of Palestine is a matter
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Speaker 8: of when, not if a two state solution.
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Speaker 6: It is now a question of when not if that happens.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely no one is putting forward a compelling case to
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Speaker 2: do this. I mean no one aside from Hamas. But
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Speaker 2: that's not important. What matters is that there's momentum. Actually,
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Speaker 2: ed Husick had a crack at explaining the rationale.
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Speaker 8: Har Mass is built largely on grievance.
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Speaker 7: That grievance gets removed with the establishment of a state
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Speaker 7: of Palestine.
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Speaker 6: Ah.
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Speaker 2: Yes, the old give terrorists what they want and they'll
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Speaker 2: stop being terrorists' theory, Nobel peace prizes.
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Speaker 3: All around for that one.
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Speaker 2: Ha Mass only behave the way they do, raping and
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Speaker 2: murdering and taking hostages. That they can rape and murder
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Speaker 2: because they're upset. But if you give them what they want,
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Speaker 2: they won't be upset and so on't have a reason
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Speaker 2: to rape and murder and stuff.
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Speaker 1: So let's do that.
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Speaker 2: It's insanity and the only thing more dangerous than insanity
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Speaker 2: is insanity that has momentum.
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Speaker 10: Well.
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Speaker 2: The City of Melbourne declared a climate emergency back in
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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. The council's website website still tells Melbournians where
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Speaker 2: possible take public transport a bi called walk instead of
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Speaker 2: using a car.
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Speaker 3: It's noble stuff.
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Speaker 2: There is a climate emergency after all, unless you're the
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Speaker 2: Council CEO. Late last year, Allison Leeton, Melbourne's chief executive,
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Speaker 2: spent five and a half grand of ratepayer money to
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Speaker 2: fly to Cairo.
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Speaker 3: That's right, you need to walk to work.
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Speaker 2: But the Council CEO couldn't let the climate emergency get
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Speaker 2: in the way of attending World Cities Day and the
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Speaker 2: World Urban Forum. I mean sessions included and I quote
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Speaker 2: slum activism, genderous sponsive urban mobility planning, whatever that is,
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Speaker 2: and information on how a shelter for transgendered people was
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Speaker 2: helping to fight homelessness in India. Joining me now as
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Speaker 2: National's MP Barnaby Joyce Barbabye.
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Speaker 3: This is what climate.
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Speaker 2: Emergency leadership looks like, finger wagging from thirty thousand feet
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Speaker 2: in a fully reclined seat.
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Speaker 6: It's the typical way of a cult, isn't it, James?
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Speaker 6: That you see you know what the leader does. He
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Speaker 6: preaches austerity, he preaches virtue, he preaches chastity, and then
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Speaker 6: you find in the background he lives debauchery, he lives fragrantly,
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Speaker 6: and he drives a Rolls Royce. This is always happens
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Speaker 6: around his colts. But the Australian people are sick of
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Speaker 6: being in this cult. They're sick of following this Colt.
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Speaker 6: We see it also obviously not questioning his morality or anything,
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Speaker 6: but Bowene he lives in this alternate Coltish Universe's is
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Speaker 6: out there today telling us power prices have all come down,
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Speaker 6: it's all better. And what we see at these COP conferences,
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Speaker 6: we're desperately trying to get ourselves a COP conference. They
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Speaker 6: turn up in their corporate jets. We have mister cannon Brooks,
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Speaker 6: Mike cannon Brooks talking about the virtues of the climate
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Speaker 6: whilst he owns a Formula one driving team and as
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Speaker 6: a corporate jet. You know, it's it's insane. Who are
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Speaker 6: the cuckers? Well we are, we're the circles, you know,
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Speaker 6: But we're sick of being the suckers. We're getting out
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Speaker 6: of this rubbish. We've got to repeal on that zero
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Speaker 6: and just get our nation back to a sense of
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Speaker 6: sanity and out of this mad cult.
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Speaker 2: While we're on the topic of climate hypocrisy. I have
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Speaker 2: to ask you about this United Nations Climate Chief Simon Steele,
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Speaker 2: who's been in Australia meeting with Chris Bowen and preaching
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Speaker 2: to us about the need to harden up our net
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Speaker 2: zero targets. He's the guy who said fruit would be
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Speaker 2: a once a year treat and there'd be mega droughts
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Speaker 2: and the impact on our GDP would be seven trillion
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Speaker 2: dollars if we don't set higher emission reduction targets. But
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Speaker 2: Barnaby Coming is from a small island of Grenada in
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Speaker 2: the Caribbeane exactly. And while he was in government he
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Speaker 2: actually supported tax breaks for the oil and gas industry,
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Speaker 2: presumably to bring a bit of wealth to his country.
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Speaker 6: Oh but he's seen he's had light enlightenment, hasn't he.
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Speaker 6: He's had the transition. He's joined the colt And but
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Speaker 6: he's joined the col as a cult leader, and colt
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Speaker 6: leads make lots of money, and he gets fire around
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Speaker 6: the world, and uh, you know, be prophlyties to us
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Speaker 6: as deer apostates, and we have the hypocrisy of this.
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Speaker 6: It just wrinks it, you know, just you see him
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Speaker 6: there and as soon as he's seen him the first time,
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Speaker 6: I go, I don't know. It's like like you know,
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Speaker 6: a dodgy, a dodgy beast in the yards. He going.
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Speaker 1: Done.
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Speaker 6: I don't quite know about this. And then you dig
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Speaker 6: down and sure enough another hypocrite and we you know,
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Speaker 6: and people take them seriously. That's I can't work out.
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Speaker 6: They get their dials on television and preach to us
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Speaker 6: like most cult leaders do. And you know, we're over this,
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Speaker 6: you know, and you know once more. They tell you
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Speaker 6: about the jobs, they're never there. They tell you how
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Speaker 6: power is cheap and it's deer. They direct the environment.
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Speaker 6: They tell you it's cheap. Yet they've got to have
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Speaker 6: a capacity investment scheme where you attack the you the
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Speaker 6: listener has to subsidize and underwrite their right to make
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Speaker 6: billions of dollars out of your wallet. Yeah, the whole thing.
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Speaker 6: And you know that's what colts there. Ultimately, they always
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Speaker 6: ripping money off people, aren't they am They strip the
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Speaker 6: money off people and they just treat you like fools.
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Speaker 6: And you know what happened, you know, just like most
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Speaker 6: people from granad he just stick to the cricket. They
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Speaker 6: didn't help the cricket. The West indies these days and
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Speaker 6: just stay away from stay away from preaching to us, please.
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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of wealth being stripped from people, Victorians are
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Speaker 2: set to be slugged with higher energy bills to pay
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Speaker 2: for a renewables project. Get this, barnaby that suffered massive
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Speaker 2: cost blowouts.
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Speaker 3: Who would have guessed?
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Speaker 2: A new report from AMO has revealed something called a
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Speaker 2: VNI West project. It's a transmission line plugging into the
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Speaker 2: Victorian grid, which is already pretty controversial. It's jumped from
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Speaker 2: three point nine billion dollars that was the original cost,
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Speaker 2: to seven point six billion dollars.
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Speaker 3: But I mean, what do you know about this?
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Speaker 2: And do any of these renewable projects not blowout in
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Speaker 2: terms of costs?
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Speaker 6: Oh no, no, Jametak can't be right because we were
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Speaker 6: told that renewables are the cheapest. Now you've got that wrong.
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Speaker 6: We've got that totally wrong. Now, of course you're right.
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Speaker 6: And we've seen the farmers down there protesting against the
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Speaker 6: transmission lines, you know, that are basically socializing their private assets.
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Speaker 6: And we all sit back and watch the socialist state
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Speaker 6: of Victoria. We've seen the new dictums coming out of
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Speaker 6: the things they wish to achieve in their sort of
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Speaker 6: news sort of socialist paradigm, and one of them is
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Speaker 6: the complete de industrializing of Victoria, the division of communities,
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Speaker 6: the pushing of pensions into poverty. That's generally what happens
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Speaker 6: under Stalin and Mao. You know this great leap, the
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Speaker 6: great cult leap forward in the power. But I would
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Speaker 6: say to the people protesting on the transmission lines, I'm
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Speaker 6: one hundred percent with you, but don't say that. You've
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Speaker 6: got to understand if you believe in that zero, you
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Speaker 6: believe in the transmission lines, you can't have it both ways.
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Speaker 6: To take the head off this serpent, We've got to
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Speaker 6: take out net zero. That's the banner we bind together
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Speaker 6: under because if you keep on saying, well, I believe
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Speaker 6: in net zero, but done on the transmission lines, then
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Speaker 6: you're going to say, well mate, if you believe in
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Speaker 6: that zero, we've got to have the transmission lines. So
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Speaker 6: get rid of that zero and we have a clean,
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Speaker 6: clear argument that I believe is getting real momentum right
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Speaker 6: now with the Australian people to get rid of this. OK.
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Speaker 2: So that's the next thing I wanted to ask you about, Barnaby.
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Speaker 2: There's momentum maybe with the Australian people in terms of
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Speaker 2: getting rid of net zero.
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Speaker 3: But you've been leading the.
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Speaker 2: Charge in your own party and indeed in the coalition.
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Speaker 2: What sort of response have you had privately from Coalition
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Speaker 2: MPs and senators to your push for the party to
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Speaker 2: dump net zero completely.
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Speaker 6: Well, I'm not going to sort of talk for other people.
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Speaker 6: I think people need the dignity of making having their
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Speaker 6: own say. But I am actually looking forward to across
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Speaker 6: the floor, across the floor for the first time in
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Speaker 6: a long while today about I had to because I
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Speaker 6: was crossing the floor. I actually on having the right
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Speaker 6: to debate my own bill, private members bill, So it
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Speaker 6: would have been looked a bit foolish not voting for that.
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Speaker 6: Now this will give the opportunity to a lot of
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Speaker 6: people who I know want the opportunity, who actually are
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Speaker 6: asking me for the opportunity to speak against net zero.
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Speaker 6: I know there is a wave of support because it
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Speaker 6: encapsulates what people on the conservative side of politics believe in.
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Speaker 6: We do not believe in the primer of the state.
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Speaker 6: We want government out of our lives and there's never
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Speaker 6: a policy that has put the government more in your
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Speaker 6: life than that zero. Basically telling you you know, the
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Speaker 6: electricity you have to buy, the industries that will have
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Speaker 6: on a on a ridiculous edict that Australa can cool
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Speaker 6: the cool the oceans and stop the frost and stop
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Speaker 6: the cyclones. And it'll be done by the grand cult leader,
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Speaker 6: mister Bowen. You know it's this is this is barking mad,
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Speaker 6: and a lot of people are now calling it as
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Speaker 6: barking mad, and the movement against that zero is growing.
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Speaker 6: But it's going to need the people from the cities
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Speaker 6: in the suburbs to say, we are sick of these
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Speaker 6: power prices, we are sick of this socialization of our nation,
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Speaker 6: and we're going to stand up with others to drag
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Speaker 6: the politicians kicking and screaming to common sense because it's
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Speaker 6: I don't think it's going to be led from this building.
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Speaker 6: I do think it's going to be led from the street.
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Speaker 2: So are you saying you don't believe that your leader
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Speaker 2: or Susan Lee will adopt a net an abandonment of
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Speaker 2: net zero position.
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Speaker 6: I'm not going to speak for them, nor nor am
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Speaker 6: I going to contract cajole or bully that's something like this.
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Speaker 6: This is my barrier to push and other and Cole
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Speaker 6: Boyce's barrow to push, Michael McCormick's barrow to push, and
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Speaker 6: Garth Hamilton's barrow to push, and Luo Bryan's barrow to push,
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Speaker 6: and many many others. But I'm not going to start
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Speaker 6: sort of saying, you know you will do this or
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Speaker 6: you will do that. I will appeal to your common sense.
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Speaker 3: It's just so barnaby.
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Speaker 2: It's just when you say barnaby, when you say that
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Speaker 2: you don't believe it's going to be led from this
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Speaker 2: House I Parliament, it makes me wonder whether you're no
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Speaker 2: believident that the Coalition will adopt your position.
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Speaker 6: I'm not going to I'm not right. At this point
19:50
Speaker 6: in time, the position of the Coalition is in support
19:52
Speaker 6: of net zero. I'm hoping that will change. So it
19:56
Speaker 6: would be ridiculous for me to say, oh, well, you know,
19:59
Speaker 6: I think it's going to have an overwhelming wave of
20:01
Speaker 6: support against at zero, because the actual position of the
20:03
Speaker 6: Coalition right now is in support in THATT zero. I
20:06
Speaker 6: wish that would change. What I can say is when
20:09
Speaker 6: you get off the plane in Tamworth, or when you
20:10
Speaker 6: walk down the streets in Sydney, or are basically anywhere,
20:14
Speaker 6: I go now. People almost fall over themselves to tell
20:17
Speaker 6: you that they support the movement that I'm just a
20:21
Speaker 6: part of. I'm not the leader I am part of
20:23
Speaker 6: to get rid of net zero. To quite frank, I've
20:26
Speaker 6: never overwhelmed by people coming up to me on the
20:28
Speaker 6: street against net zero. I haven't met one yet who's
20:31
Speaker 6: come on between and said he or she disagrees and
20:35
Speaker 6: supports net zero. Not one. Right.
20:39
Speaker 2: Lastly, Barnaby, I want to ask you about your reaction
20:41
Speaker 2: to news that construction firms are collapsing at a record
20:44
Speaker 2: rate in our country. Fifteen hundred firms have collapsed in
20:48
Speaker 2: the last financial year, which to me would cast some
20:51
Speaker 2: doubt over the government's promise to build thousands of new homes.
20:56
Speaker 6: How can you build thousands of new homes when you
20:58
Speaker 6: want to keep the the raft of regulations that makes
21:03
Speaker 6: home so dear? Do you known my area in danglemar
21:06
Speaker 6: I think a lot of people have probably seen it
21:07
Speaker 6: on television television. It's a called basic regulations that if
21:11
Speaker 6: I do an extension to my house, I've got to
21:15
Speaker 6: take an account that I'm living in an alpine area.
21:18
Speaker 6: Now I've had a look at the door and I
21:19
Speaker 6: can't see I can't see the reindeers, and I've never
21:23
Speaker 6: really been concerned about avalanches coming off the hills. And
21:27
Speaker 6: you know, the igloos just don't work in danglemar But
21:31
Speaker 6: I'm apparently in an alpine area, and I have to
21:34
Speaker 6: get all the alpine parts of my construction into my extension,
21:40
Speaker 6: which of course puts the price up. Now we're also
21:43
Speaker 6: on that. Are we opening up the state forest so
21:45
Speaker 6: we can get the timber out, are reducing the price
21:48
Speaker 6: of powers so we can make the componentry cheaper. We're
21:50
Speaker 6: not doing any of this, and we magically think, magically
21:54
Speaker 6: think the price of houses are going to go down.
21:57
Speaker 6: I've at one place the other day, as I mentioned
21:59
Speaker 6: on this show, carbon offsets for a ten acre paddict
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Speaker 6: to build, to build units on three sorry, yeah, three
22:06
Speaker 6: point five million dollars. How on earth is that helping
22:11
Speaker 6: housing crisis? But you know, this is what we've got.
22:14
Speaker 6: But it's not going to think. It's like it's like
22:16
Speaker 6: the rhetoric in this place. If you say it will happen.
22:19
Speaker 6: If you say the climber will change, it will happen.
22:21
Speaker 6: If you say houses will get cheaper, it'll happen. No,
22:23
Speaker 6: they don't You've actually got to You've actually got to
22:26
Speaker 6: have common sense and understand if you want more houses,
22:28
Speaker 6: you need less regulations, you need cheaper products, and you
22:32
Speaker 6: need greater access to the things that actually make houses.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely you do.
22:38
Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce, always good to chat. Thanks for joining me tonight.
22:41
Speaker 6: Absolute pleasure.
22:44
Speaker 2: Well coming up in a moment, Donald Trump has been
22:46
Speaker 2: in off for seven months now and still hasn't gotten
22:49
Speaker 2: around to nominating an ambassador for Australia.
22:52
Speaker 3: Plus a former Hamas.
22:53
Speaker 2: Fisial says talk in Western countries about recognizing Palestine are
22:57
Speaker 2: a great victory.
22:59
Speaker 3: All of that more with Michael Shuebridge after this, Well.
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Speaker 2: More evidence today that Australia's standing in Washington is now
23:08
Speaker 2: somewhere between irrelevant and invisible. President Donald Trump hasn't yet
23:12
Speaker 2: bothered to nominate an ambassador to our country. It's not
23:15
Speaker 2: like he hasn't been busy nominating ambassadors. More than fifty countries,
23:19
Speaker 2: including diplomatic hotspots like Latvia, Namibia, the Bahamas, They've all
23:24
Speaker 2: been allocated ambassadors. Even New Zealand got an ambassador from
23:29
Speaker 2: the Trump administration. But so far Donald Trump hasn't bothered
23:32
Speaker 2: nominating anyone to represent him in Australia. Nothing not a name,
23:36
Speaker 2: not a whisper, not even a rumor of a shortlist.
23:39
Speaker 2: I have to say, it's almost impressive how thoroughly we're
23:42
Speaker 2: being ignored. Joining me now a strategic analysis Australia Director
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Speaker 2: Michael Schubridge. Michael, great to have you on the program.
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Speaker 2: You've said, and I quote, this shows a disturbing pattern
23:53
Speaker 2: of a lack of engagement between our labor government and
23:56
Speaker 2: the Trump administration. What's going on and how much should
23:59
Speaker 2: we read into the fact he hasn't nominated an ambassador
24:03
Speaker 2: after seven months?
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Speaker 11: Well, James, it fits a pattern, you know, no leader
24:09
Speaker 11: to leader meetings, none planned, and no US ambassador. The
24:14
Speaker 11: relationship between Canberra and Washington is fraying, and that is
24:19
Speaker 11: bad news. It reminds me of that book title about
24:23
Speaker 11: why people didn't get a second date, which was He's
24:27
Speaker 11: just not that into you.
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Speaker 6: So it's become.
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Speaker 11: Clear that Australia is a low priority in Washington, DC.
24:34
Speaker 11: And the problem is we want real things from America,
24:38
Speaker 11: particularly in the security realm, and without a US ambassador
24:42
Speaker 11: here and without leader to leader meetings, and with this
24:45
Speaker 11: fraying relationship, Australia will get lowest common denominator outcomes on
24:51
Speaker 11: economics and security, when instead we should be seen as
24:55
Speaker 11: a valued ally and a country that is almost lonely
25:00
Speaker 11: in buying more from America than they.
25:03
Speaker 3: Sell us, then we sell them.
25:06
Speaker 11: So we should be a valued high priority and we're
25:09
Speaker 11: a low priority.
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Speaker 2: You made me smile when you use that dating analogy.
25:15
Speaker 2: I imagine Donald Trump saying to Anthony Albanezi, It's not me,
25:19
Speaker 2: it's you. On the show last night, I spoke with
25:22
Speaker 2: Sky News Investigation reported Jonathan Lee, who was given amazing
25:26
Speaker 2: access to one of the United States most advanced nuclear
25:29
Speaker 2: submarines and Ohio class sub which is visiting Brisbane. It's
25:34
Speaker 2: thought one of these was involved in the campaign against
25:38
Speaker 2: Iran's nuclear sites. But John I spoke with some of
25:40
Speaker 2: the top US Navy brass about the Virginia class subs
25:44
Speaker 2: that Australia is supposed to be getting as part of
25:46
Speaker 2: the Orcut.
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Speaker 3: Pact, and what he found out was frankly very worrying.
25:50
Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts on it, but he first,
25:51
Speaker 2: here's what Jonathan had to say.
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Speaker 12: I don't think Orcas was originally intended for us to
25:57
Speaker 12: get American Virginia classes and I think has somehow become
26:01
Speaker 12: part of the mix. America right now is trying to
26:04
Speaker 12: work out how to give us the submarines that they
26:06
Speaker 12: have agreed to between three and five starting from twenty
26:09
Speaker 12: thirty two. At the moment, they are starting to go
26:12
Speaker 12: backwards with their own submarine numbers when they need to increase.
26:14
Speaker 12: They want to get to sixty five attack submarines. They
26:16
Speaker 12: currently have forty nine. That's fewer than they want and
26:20
Speaker 12: they need, and they have to find a way to
26:22
Speaker 12: give us three or five. So they're in a valley
26:24
Speaker 12: which was caused by the Cold War at the time
26:26
Speaker 12: they're trying to ramp up production. They're at a rate
26:28
Speaker 12: at one point three now they need to be at
26:30
Speaker 12: two point three a year.
26:31
Speaker 3: They don't have enough.
26:32
Speaker 12: Work because they don't have up welders, electricians.
26:35
Speaker 3: They're struggling. So, Michael, what's your take on this.
26:39
Speaker 2: Are we going to get these subs and if we don't,
26:42
Speaker 2: what does that mean for our security in our region?
26:47
Speaker 11: Well, James Jonathan is right that America isn't making enough
26:51
Speaker 11: submarines for its own needs for its own navy, and
26:55
Speaker 11: it's been spending billions of dollars over recent years trying
26:58
Speaker 11: to change that, but it hasn't moved the production rate
27:02
Speaker 11: up at all. In fact, it's gone backwards just last year.
27:06
Speaker 11: So it's getting harder for the US Navy to give
27:08
Speaker 11: up subs when it doesn't have enough themselves. And this
27:12
Speaker 11: is where the fraying relationship between the Albanese government and
27:16
Speaker 11: the Trump administration really starts to bite, because if it's
27:21
Speaker 11: getting hard for the US Navy to give up its submarines,
27:24
Speaker 11: then they need a rock solid, trusted, valued alliance partner
27:28
Speaker 11: in Australia if they're going to make that call. And
27:31
Speaker 11: when both things are getting harder, we're getting less trusted
27:35
Speaker 11: because we're less well known in Washington and the Americans
27:40
Speaker 11: aren't getting enough submarines themselves.
27:44
Speaker 2: I want to get to another worrying stillary that came
27:47
Speaker 2: out today.
27:49
Speaker 3: So were you about to add something?
27:51
Speaker 1: Go ahead?
27:52
Speaker 11: Well, the consequence is the alliance is weaker and it's
27:57
Speaker 11: meant to be a key part of regional security. So
28:01
Speaker 11: Australian security gets damaged, as does the regions.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, you're absolutely right.
28:09
Speaker 2: There's a story in the papers today saying some Iranians
28:12
Speaker 2: in this country claim they're being stalked and threatened by
28:16
Speaker 2: the Islamic Republic and by their agents. One, a dissonant
28:20
Speaker 2: journalist who managed to flee here in twenty thirteen, told
28:23
Speaker 2: the Australian agents of the Islamic Republic are threatening to
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Speaker 2: kill me and they're putting pressure on my family in Iran,
28:30
Speaker 2: saying if I don't stay silent, they'll harm them. Michael,
28:34
Speaker 2: the man's lawyer has written to Victoria Police saying his
28:36
Speaker 2: life is in danger and he needs protection.
28:42
Speaker 11: These are absolutely credible things.
28:44
Speaker 3: We know.
28:45
Speaker 11: The ASIO boss Mike Burger is actually named Iran as
28:48
Speaker 11: a government that was doing this kind of thing in Australia.
28:52
Speaker 11: So threatening people in Australia with violence and intimidation, blackmailing
28:59
Speaker 11: them about their person security in their families. These are
29:02
Speaker 11: all crimes under the Australian Crimes Act. They should be prosecuted.
29:07
Speaker 11: If they're diplomats doing it, they should be expelled. Why
29:11
Speaker 11: isn't the government doing this well? Because Iran is a
29:14
Speaker 11: small player when it comes to this kind of thing.
29:17
Speaker 11: China's government is a bigger player. It's doing this on
29:20
Speaker 11: a wholesale level when the Iranians are doing it just on.
29:24
Speaker 6: The retail level.
29:26
Speaker 11: So if the Albanizi government did the right thing and
29:30
Speaker 11: got police to prosecute these Iranians that are committing crimes
29:34
Speaker 11: in our country, pressuring other people. They would be in
29:38
Speaker 11: a hard place to explain why they aren't doing that
29:41
Speaker 11: to the Chinese operatives.
29:45
Speaker 6: Yeah.
29:46
Speaker 2: The other thing I'd love them to explain is why
29:48
Speaker 2: we have an Iranian embassy in this country. You mentioned
29:50
Speaker 2: Mike Burgess. He has said outright Iran is a hostile nation,
29:55
Speaker 2: and yet we've got an embassy here with their ambassador
29:58
Speaker 2: who continues to sprout rubbish, and the government take no
30:01
Speaker 2: action at all. Before you go, I want to ask
30:04
Speaker 2: you about Gaza, and in particularly this story from the
30:07
Speaker 2: UK Telegraph with a quote a Hamas official or a
30:10
Speaker 2: former Hamask government official now based in Turkey, but saying
30:14
Speaker 2: that the promise by Kirstarma to recognize Palestine is a victory.
30:19
Speaker 2: Bassam Nam, who is a former minister in the terror
30:22
Speaker 2: group's government, told the paper international support for Palestinian self
30:26
Speaker 2: determination shows.
30:28
Speaker 3: We are moving in the right direction.
30:30
Speaker 2: Victory and liberation are closer than we expected. Michael, this
30:34
Speaker 2: is exactly what many of us have been warning about.
30:37
Speaker 2: Recognition of a Palestinian state will be viewed as rewarding
30:41
Speaker 2: terrorism and will only encourage more of it.
30:45
Speaker 11: Well, James, anything that makes a Hamas official happy is
30:50
Speaker 11: probably a bad thing. That's a good rule of thumb.
30:53
Speaker 11: They are a terrorist organization. But this idea of if
30:58
Speaker 11: we recognize a Powerestinian state in the middle of an
31:01
Speaker 11: armed conflict between Homas and Israel, all good things will
31:05
Speaker 11: happen is just an illusion. A bunch of bystander governments
31:12
Speaker 11: doing this gesture will affect nothing on the ground besides
31:16
Speaker 11: cheering up Hamas. So the reason any recognition should come
31:20
Speaker 11: after a negotiated peace is all of the practical issues
31:25
Speaker 11: about borders and security and the economics all have to
31:31
Speaker 11: be sorted out, and the tricky question of the West Bank.
31:34
Speaker 11: So without that, this unfortunately is a meaningless gesture except
31:40
Speaker 11: to Homas.
31:43
Speaker 2: Indeed, Michael Schubridge, thanks for joining me tonight.
31:46
Speaker 6: Well.
31:46
Speaker 2: Coming up next, the Elbinezy government today shut down discussion
31:50
Speaker 2: about the sex discrimination bill because they said a discussion
31:54
Speaker 2: would have been too harmful. The Victorian Labor Party will
31:57
Speaker 2: hold their state conference this weekend. After the break, the
31:59
Speaker 2: panel and I will dissect some of the crazy agenda items.
32:03
Speaker 3: All of that in just a moment. Welcome back to
32:08
Speaker 3: the program.
32:09
Speaker 2: Well, the Victorian State Labor Conference will be held this weekend.
32:12
Speaker 2: If you're unfamiliar with the event, it's basically where ernest
32:15
Speaker 2: ideologues gather to outflank each other in a competitive display
32:19
Speaker 2: of social re engineering. And wait until you get a
32:22
Speaker 2: whiff of the crazy ideas being put up for adoption.
32:25
Speaker 2: Items on the agenda include the creation of a state owned,
32:29
Speaker 2: regulated and taxed cannabis industry, fast tracking the elimination of coal,
32:35
Speaker 2: a permanent Aboriginal Truth Telling Commission, cut in population growth,
32:40
Speaker 2: and permanent till pest pill testing at music festivals.
32:44
Speaker 3: But there's more.
32:46
Speaker 2: The Victorian ALP will also be debating whether or not
32:49
Speaker 2: access to public toilets should be declared a basic human
32:52
Speaker 2: right and whether or not they should adopt policies to
32:55
Speaker 2: ensure the survival of the Dingo. Joining me now to
32:58
Speaker 2: discuss this is and Prue McSweeney. Ladies, thanks for joining me, Evelyn.
33:04
Speaker 2: I'll start with you. Are there any surprises here?
33:08
Speaker 13: This is totally unsurprising, James.
33:11
Speaker 14: I mean, if COVID wasn't enough of a red flag
33:15
Speaker 14: to sort of show the cards of what's behind the
33:18
Speaker 14: labor of Victorian government. Then this certainly showcases that they
33:22
Speaker 14: are embarrassing, They are shameful. I mean, if we went
33:25
Speaker 14: through what they're proposing with a fine tooth can we
33:28
Speaker 14: could be here till next year just.
33:30
Speaker 13: Analyzing how pathetic it is.
33:32
Speaker 14: But you know, I honestly think at this point in time,
33:34
Speaker 14: perhaps our federal government should strongly consider building a wall
33:39
Speaker 14: around Victoria and just leaving them there to do as
33:42
Speaker 14: they want.
33:44
Speaker 13: I think what concerns me about this entire thing.
33:47
Speaker 14: Is the fact that only recently the Victorian people voted
33:51
Speaker 14: for the same useless government back in power. I don't
33:54
Speaker 14: completely you know, blame the voter base though, because I mean,
33:58
Speaker 14: the Liberal Party were two busy trying to string up
34:01
Speaker 14: one of their own under some fake Nazi, you know charge,
34:06
Speaker 14: So you know.
34:07
Speaker 13: They're honestly just as bad. The whole place is a shambles.
34:10
Speaker 14: What I'm most worried about is that once Victoria dies,
34:14
Speaker 14: which we all know what's going to if they keep
34:17
Speaker 14: on this trajectory, where are they going to go?
34:20
Speaker 13: Where are these voters going to go? They're going to
34:21
Speaker 13: come to our states, And quite frankly, I'm worried. I
34:24
Speaker 13: don't really want them.
34:25
Speaker 14: Coming here, setting up camp and then voting for the
34:27
Speaker 14: very same useless politicians.
34:29
Speaker 13: Here to ruin our semi al right above water sort
34:33
Speaker 13: of states.
34:34
Speaker 14: I think at some point in time, all of us
34:36
Speaker 14: from the other states in Australia you need to look
34:38
Speaker 14: at Victoria and say, you know what, you made your bed,
34:41
Speaker 14: It's time to just lay in it now, Prue.
34:45
Speaker 2: I read through the agenda items and honestly I thought
34:48
Speaker 2: I was reading the agenda for a Greens Party conference.
34:52
Speaker 5: Well it's a bit like that, James said. And I'm
34:54
Speaker 5: wondering if they've been smoking some of that cannabis to,
34:58
Speaker 5: you know, come up with these hair brained ideas. But look,
35:02
Speaker 5: let's hope it's a moot point, as Evelyn said, hopefully
35:06
Speaker 5: now that the Liberal Party has got its act together
35:08
Speaker 5: a little bit more in Victoria, they may give them
35:11
Speaker 5: a run for money, because how long can the Victorian
35:15
Speaker 5: communities suffer under these people? But some of them are
35:19
Speaker 5: quite extraordinary.
35:20
Speaker 6: You know.
35:20
Speaker 5: They want to soften anti protest laws. Well I know
35:23
Speaker 5: they quite like a protest down there, and the police
35:26
Speaker 5: seem very accommodating of it. Also, of course, give new
35:32
Speaker 5: powers to this special envoy for anti Semitism.
35:36
Speaker 1: So what does that mean?
35:36
Speaker 5: Are they going to water it down and just make
35:39
Speaker 5: it another bit of window dressing, which they so often
35:42
Speaker 5: do down there. I don't know what's going on in
35:45
Speaker 5: that state. Evelyn's right, it's just bankrupt with ideas and
35:49
Speaker 5: with talent. And let's hope that the people, the voters
35:53
Speaker 5: of Victoria wake up to themselves.
35:57
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of bankrupt, something very wrong happen. And in
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Speaker 2: the Senate this afternoon, Liberal Senator Alex Antik and National
36:04
Speaker 2: Senator Matt Canavan tabled a private senator's bill to amend
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Speaker 2: the Sex Discrimination Act. They wanted to remove references to
36:12
Speaker 2: gender identity. Now we know the government will oppose removing
36:15
Speaker 2: gender identity as a protected category from sex discrimination. But
36:19
Speaker 2: what I thought was outrageous was that the government used
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Speaker 2: their numbers in the Senate to stop the bill even
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Speaker 2: being read.
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Speaker 3: Take a look, I.
36:28
Speaker 1: Present the bill and move. This bill may proceed without
36:30
Speaker 1: formalities and they'll be read.
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Speaker 6: For a first time.
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Speaker 15: The question is the motion is moved by Senator Antik.
36:35
Speaker 15: We agreed to those of that opinion, say I against
36:39
Speaker 15: I believe the nos have it Nos have it now?
36:44
Speaker 2: Manager of Government Business in the Senate. Katie Gallagher said
36:47
Speaker 2: that to allow the bill to have even been read
36:50
Speaker 2: would have enabled and I'm quoting her harm and the
36:53
Speaker 2: Government wouldn't stand for that.
36:54
Speaker 3: Here she is.
36:56
Speaker 16: We do not agree with the Senate being a place
36:59
Speaker 16: where individual harm can be done to young people across
37:03
Speaker 16: this country. And that is what would have happened had
37:06
Speaker 16: we allowed this fiel to proceed in a normal course,
37:08
Speaker 16: and we won't stand for it. Trans children deserve better
37:12
Speaker 16: from this chamber, So Evelyn, it's.
37:15
Speaker 2: Now considered harmful for our lawmakers to debate certain laws.
37:20
Speaker 2: How does a democracy work when certain topics are off
37:23
Speaker 2: limits in the Senate?
37:25
Speaker 13: Well, democracy can't work.
37:27
Speaker 14: We may as well just not even go to the
37:28
Speaker 14: voting boost if we can't even discuss ideas in our
37:31
Speaker 14: own parliament. I mean, do these people think that they
37:34
Speaker 14: are just a law unto themselves, because that's certainly how
37:38
Speaker 14: they're behaving.
37:39
Speaker 3: You know.
37:39
Speaker 14: It's the absence of objectivity and debate that is the
37:43
Speaker 14: very language of the oppressor. So I mean, this is
37:49
Speaker 14: literally the brains trust of our nation and they're stopping
37:52
Speaker 14: and preventing discussing ideas that could have a real meaningful
37:57
Speaker 14: impact on more than probably less than one percent of
38:01
Speaker 14: our population.
38:02
Speaker 13: So they want to talk about harm. They're more interested
38:05
Speaker 13: in the very small minority of Australians than the majority
38:09
Speaker 13: of them. What does that tell you about the very
38:11
Speaker 13: people who were supposed to represent our interests. People who
38:15
Speaker 13: are afraid of the truth getting out, have a very
38:18
Speaker 13: vested interest in the need to control the narrative, and
38:22
Speaker 13: that is all that is happening here.
38:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they changed the Sex Discrimination Act under Julia
38:30
Speaker 2: Gillard when she was the Prime Minister. Now a number
38:33
Speaker 2: of years later they're saying, can't talk about those changes now,
38:36
Speaker 2: to be too harmful to discuss them, So it has
38:38
Speaker 2: to remain as we wanted it.
38:40
Speaker 3: It's quite a way to do government.
38:42
Speaker 2: You have to wonder about the intelligence of some of
38:44
Speaker 2: these pro Palestinian protesters. The officers of the New York
38:47
Speaker 2: Times were vandalized overnight, daubed in red paint after the
38:52
Speaker 2: paper admitted that their front page photograph of an emaciated
38:56
Speaker 2: child in Gars wasn't what it seemed. The shocking picture
38:59
Speaker 2: was widely seen as evidence in Israel as starving the
39:02
Speaker 2: population in Gaza to death, but the child had a
39:05
Speaker 2: pre existing condition that had nothing to do with starvation,
39:10
Speaker 2: putting aside the blame game over aid and what's happening
39:13
Speaker 2: in Gaza. Why would activists attack the New York Times
39:17
Speaker 2: building for simply admitting their fault in that picture.
39:22
Speaker 5: Well, it's destroying their narrative, isn't it. The propaganda that's
39:26
Speaker 5: been coming out of Gaza, driven by hammers and eaten
39:30
Speaker 5: up by Western journalists who have their own agendas and
39:33
Speaker 5: have issues with Israel. So one can understand that they
39:39
Speaker 5: wouldn't be happy about this news, their reality having to
39:42
Speaker 5: be faced, and they'll do anything they can to stop it.
39:47
Speaker 5: This is the problem.
39:48
Speaker 3: It's been.
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Speaker 5: A joke on humanity, and no one likes the fact
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Speaker 5: that what's going on. War is hard, war is evil,
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Speaker 5: and it's happening in Gaza, and there are a lot
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Speaker 5: of people who are suffering. But at the same time,
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Speaker 5: we all know that Hamas is controlling the story and
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Speaker 5: the story is not getting out there that is correct,
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Speaker 5: and this is where we have a problem. So this
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Speaker 5: is why these protesters are very unhappy with any media
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Speaker 5: outlet that isn't saying what they want to hear.
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Speaker 2: All right, before I let you both go, and Evyly,
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Speaker 2: I really want to get your take on this as
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Speaker 2: a former police officer. As I said at the top
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Speaker 2: of the show, the Victorian Labor Party will be placing
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Speaker 2: Mashetti Amnesty safe disposal bins outside forty police stations with
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Speaker 2: surveillance cameras in the hope that criminals will turn in
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Speaker 2: their weapons. You're a former police officer, Evlyn, Is this
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Speaker 2: a good idea?
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Speaker 3: Is it going to work?
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Speaker 14: Honestly, they are just a statue, a symbol of the
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Speaker 14: failure of the police force, the failure of our politicians,
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Speaker 14: and the failure of our court systems. Because it should
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Speaker 14: never come to this. This sort of idea is as
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Speaker 14: dumb as banning forks to prevent obesity.
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Speaker 13: That is what we're talking about here.
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Speaker 14: And if our politicians, our police force, and our judicial system,
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Speaker 14: our courts, we're doing their job properly, you wouldn't need
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Speaker 14: to police law abiding citizens. Any nation that has to
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Speaker 14: police law abiding citizens as a result or in response
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Speaker 14: to dealing with crime increases.
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Speaker 13: There's something seriously wrong at the core of it. But unfortunately,
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Speaker 13: absolutely yeah, it's just very sad.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you are absolutely You're absolutely right, Evelyn, absolutely right.
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Speaker 2: Evelyn Ray pri McSween, thanks for joining me really appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: We'll stick around because coming up after the break, a
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Speaker 2: man faces court over threats to kill UK politician Nigel
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Speaker 2: Farage and a designated terror group is given a chance
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Speaker 2: to argue in court that it's not a terror group.
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Speaker 2: Patrick Christie's will join me from the UK with all
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Speaker 2: the details in just a moment.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the program.
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Speaker 2: I want to take a look at what's happening now
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Speaker 2: in the UK where a judge has just ruled that
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Speaker 2: Palestinian Action or Palestine Action rather, which has been causing
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Speaker 2: mayhem all over London and the UK can challenge the
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Speaker 2: government's decision to ban it under anti terrorism laws. More
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Speaker 2: than two hundred people have been arrested under terrorism laws
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Speaker 2: since the group was classified alongside Islamic State in Bocco Haram.
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Speaker 2: It's the first time that a prescribed terror group has
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Speaker 2: been able to go to court.
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Speaker 3: And challenge that prescription.
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Speaker 2: Joining me as gb News host Patrick Christie's, Patrick, this
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Speaker 2: is going to be an interesting case for the courts.
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Speaker 3: Taught me through it well.
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Speaker 1: It's absolutely bonkers, really, I mean no mistake about it.
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Speaker 1: These people are actually quite lucky to be alive. Some
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Speaker 1: of them. They broke into a British military base and
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Speaker 1: then they sprayed a load of red pain over a
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Speaker 1: British military jat, causing seven pounds worth of damage. And
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Speaker 1: they had plans apparently to do other similar stuff as well.
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Speaker 1: You know, forgive me, but I do think if you
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Speaker 1: break into a British military base, you probably should be
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Speaker 1: designated as a terrorist organization. So that's where they're at.
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Speaker 1: They're appealing it. What they're trying to do is they're
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Speaker 1: trying to use old people as human shields. So they
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Speaker 1: say that because some people are elderly and they go
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Speaker 1: on these pro Palestine marches and say they support Palestine action,
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Speaker 1: that the government is disproportionately targeting the elderly, and that
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Speaker 1: actually it's all a little bit mean. But the problem
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Speaker 1: is now that we've got a ready supply of, in
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Speaker 1: my view, quite left wing and heavily compromised judges who
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Speaker 1: are willing to make these decisions, to allow unrelenting levels
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Speaker 1: of appeals and in some cases be very sympathetic. These
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Speaker 1: are some of the same judges, of course, that have
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Speaker 1: in the past allowed people to stay in Britain because
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Speaker 1: their son didn't like foreign chicken nuggets. Despite the fact
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Speaker 1: that his dad was an Albanian drug dealer. There's been
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Speaker 1: all sorts of cases along these lines, like a judge
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Speaker 1: interpreting a law that was singularly designed for Ukrainian refugees
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Speaker 1: to also include Garzans as well, which would conceivably have
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Speaker 1: allowed the of Palestine into Britain. So hopefully this appeal fails.
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Speaker 1: But look, you know, can we really live in a
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Speaker 1: country where a group of people can break into military
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Speaker 1: bases and course seven million pounds worth of damage and
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Speaker 1: then essentially not the class as terrorists? So I think
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Speaker 1: if they had done that in America or many other countries,
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Speaker 1: they probably would have just been shot.
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Speaker 2: You know, I was about to make the joke I
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Speaker 2: hope the judges hearing the Palestine Action case are not
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Speaker 2: the same judges dealing with asylum seekers. But you beat
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Speaker 2: me to the punch and it's not a joke. It's true.
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Speaker 2: So it's worse than I could have imagined. I want
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Speaker 2: to talk about Nigel Farag. He's got a fabid on
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Speaker 2: his plate right now. First of all, and most seriously,
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Speaker 2: a man's been arrested and has appeared in court for
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Speaker 2: allegedly threatening to kill Nigel Farage on TikTok, a twenty
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Speaker 2: six year old who recently arrived in the UK from Afghanistan.
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Speaker 2: He's been reminded in custody, what more can you tell
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Speaker 2: me about that one?
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Speaker 1: This is absolutely ludicrous. Okay. So this guy was live
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Speaker 1: streaming his journey across Europe. He started out in Sweden's
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Speaker 1: from Afghanistan. Original he started out in Sweden and worked
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Speaker 1: his way through Germany into and he was tiktoking all
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Speaker 1: about it. He's got an Ak forty seven tattooed on
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Speaker 1: his cheek and he goes by the TikTok name of
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Speaker 1: Mada Passa and his trademark is and forgive me for this,
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Speaker 1: but back madder with a gun salut. He threatened to
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Speaker 1: kill Nigel Farag. He also threatened to marry his sister. So,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know which one's worse there. Really,
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Speaker 1: it would have been an interesting wedding, wouldn't it. But
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Speaker 1: he's been in custody for a little while now, and
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Speaker 1: the first time he appeared in court he speaks perfect English.
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Speaker 1: But then the judge decided that he needed to have
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Speaker 1: an interpreter, so we had to adjoin the case. And
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Speaker 1: then that's what's happening again now. But it just goes
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Speaker 1: to show you really the scale of the problem that
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Speaker 1: we've got going on at the moment in northern France
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Speaker 1: and across the Channel, which is that people who conceivably
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Speaker 1: have previous convictions, people who were able to make threats
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Speaker 1: to kill whilst they're in France. He made the threats
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Speaker 1: to kill Nigel Farage before he got into Britain, and
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Speaker 1: we still allowed him into the country and now obviously
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Speaker 1: he's in court again. I mean, this just just show
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Speaker 1: you the kind of person that we're allowing in and
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Speaker 1: how poorous our borders really are.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course the court's still to decide on that one.
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Speaker 2: It's all alleged, but the facts as have been presented
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Speaker 2: in the court are quite shocking.
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Speaker 3: There's also been attempts to smear.
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Speaker 2: Nigel Farage over his stance on the Online Safety Act
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Speaker 2: that aims to prevent kids from accessing harmful content. Farage
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Speaker 2: is opposing the bill, which he says is dystopian, and
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Speaker 2: so one labor MP has now accused Farage of being
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Speaker 2: on the side of sexual predators.
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Speaker 3: So it's quite the debating technique. Patrick.
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Speaker 2: I would have thought you're either in favor of our
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Speaker 2: Internet bill or you're in favor of child sex predators.
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Speaker 1: Is this nuts?
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Speaker 6: Right?
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Speaker 1: So before what they used to say was if you
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Speaker 1: were against things like a migrant hotel at the end
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Speaker 1: of your road, then you were a far right nazi, okay.
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Speaker 1: And now what they're trying to say is that if
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Speaker 1: you don't want your speech to be silenced online, then
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Speaker 1: you are in some way, shape or form at links toped, affiliate, etc. So,
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Speaker 1: which is an absolutely ridiculous thing to say. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he said that ran on the side of Jimmy Savile
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Speaker 1: purely because Nigel Frange thinks that the Online Safety Ad
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Speaker 1: is censoring content and it is. So if you now
47:09
Speaker 1: want to put in something online about say the grooming
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Speaker 1: gang scandal that's been gripping Britain, or some of the
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Speaker 1: issues that we've had with protests outside asylum hotels, then
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Speaker 1: that can be censored now. So it's not just about
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Speaker 1: protecting kids from porn sites and things. It's got these
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Speaker 1: knock on effects and this attempt to smear Nigel and
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Speaker 1: anyone else's or you'rell on the side of pedophiles if
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Speaker 1: you are against this. It's just a ridiculous debating technique.
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Speaker 1: But again, I don't think i'd expect anything anything less
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Speaker 1: really from a labor party who's head of technology, which
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Speaker 1: this guy is has never worked in the industry and
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Speaker 1: it took him three goes to get into a bang
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Speaker 1: average university.
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Speaker 2: Patrick, I've only got about thirty seconds left real quick.
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Speaker 2: Prison officers in the UK to use AI tools to
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Speaker 2: help predict which prisoners are likely to become violent.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, ridiculous. It's like minority report. We don't really need
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Speaker 1: the prediction sools do we? If someone's been sentenced to
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Speaker 1: a violent crime, they happen to be a member of
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Speaker 1: an isthmus group and they've attacked prison officers before. Normally
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Speaker 1: they've ticked the full bingo KHANDA potential potential threats there.
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Speaker 1: But now this AI tool is going to come in
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Speaker 1: which just genuinely looks at things like get ready for
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Speaker 1: this your criminal record? So oh god, yeah, yeah, I
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Speaker 1: wonder who they paid the big bucks for that.
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Speaker 3: I love it.
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Speaker 2: I always enjoy talking to you, Patrick, Thanks so much
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Speaker 2: for your time tonight. That's all the time I've got,
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Speaker 2: by the way, next week Andrew bolt is Beck, so
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Speaker 2: stay tuned for next Monday, he'll be beckon the seat.
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Speaker 2: It's been a privilege filling in for him up now
48:41
Speaker 2: filling in for Sherry is deleaking to Georgio.
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Speaker 3: Good night,