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SMU BEATS FSU in Tallahassee | What Now for Florida State? LIVE Call-In Show · FSU Football: Doak Talk

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  Speaker 1: I think he's more so just playing timid. He's playing.
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  Speaker 2: Game manager football, trying to play mistake-free this, that, and
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  Speaker 2: the third. And with that, it's slowing him down tremendously
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  Speaker 2: and it's hurting him. Just let it go. You're not
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  Speaker 2: going to let it go. Like Jennings, for example. Jennings
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  Speaker 2: had three down, two interceptions.
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  Speaker 3: Two interceptions.
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  Speaker 2: Still was ripping it 26-36, throwing it like it was
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  Speaker 2: nothing because he's confident in what he can do. 430 yards,
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  Speaker 2: throwing the ball downfield. giving his receivers a chance. And
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  Speaker 2: we have some of the better receivers in the ACC.
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  Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 2: We have some of the better receivers in the ACC,
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  Speaker 2: but we got to get those guys the ball. We
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  Speaker 2: got to get those guys the ball. Trust that you
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  Speaker 2: have some of the better receivers in the ACC. We
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  Speaker 2: don't need, I mean, shit you what, it was like
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  Speaker 2: 25 touchdowns of 23 interceptions. I don't know the exact stat,
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  Speaker 2: but pretty much 20 touchdowns, 20 plus touchdowns and 20
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  Speaker 2: plus interceptions in his career.
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  Speaker 1: Don't change now. You are who you are. Be the
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  Speaker 1: fucking gunslinger. Throw that bitch around. Let's make plays.
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  Speaker 2: Because how you're playing is hurting the offense in general
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  Speaker 2: because that game manager stuff and being too careful, it's
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  Speaker 2: not going to work. It's just making things look a
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  Speaker 2: lot slower than what it is. Like you had the Deuce,
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  Speaker 2: Deuce Robinson. Deuce has to make that catch. That's what
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  Speaker 2: a great receiver does. A high draft pick receiver makes
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  Speaker 2: that catch. Now, granted, the defensive back played that perfectly
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  Speaker 2: and didn't play this technique perfectly.
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  Speaker 1: Played through Deuce's hands. Brought the ball up. But Deuce
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  Speaker 1: had about two or three steps on that guy.
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  Speaker 2: With another five or so yards, five to ten yards
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  Speaker 2: of actual playing field, another ten yards of the end zone.
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  Speaker 1: Let it go. Lead him.
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  Speaker 2: There's no way in hell with him having to step.
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  Speaker 2: He has to slow down and try to high point
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  Speaker 2: the ball. Deuce should be running right up in that ball.
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  Speaker 2: This should be running right in his hands.
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  Speaker 1: Let it go. So, yeah, missed throws like that. It
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  Speaker 1: was just under throws left from right.
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  Speaker 4: Missed.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't see guys. 123 yards is just crazy, man. I
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  Speaker 2: feel bad for Deuce for coming back. I think he
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  Speaker 2: only had like four or five targets. You don't come
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  Speaker 2: back for this. You're pretty much hurting your stock coming
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  Speaker 2: back for this. I don't see him having, based upon
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  Speaker 2: these two games, the same season he had last year
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  Speaker 2: at all. For all the time he shortcomings this time,
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  Speaker 2: he didn't mind letting that ball go. He didn't mind
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  Speaker 2: giving your 6'7 receiver a chance. That's why I feel
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  Speaker 2: like with Daniels, we have to give these guys a chance.
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  Speaker 2: We have a lot of receivers from a playmaker standpoint
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  Speaker 2: that can make things shake. We just have to give
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  Speaker 2: these guys a chance and make things shake. But Ashton
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  Speaker 2: Daniels did not look good at all passing the football.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he just– it didn't look pretty. It was
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  Speaker 2: an ugly performance from that end. The running game, the
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  Speaker 2: running game. Let's talk about the running game a little bit. Colmar,
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  Speaker 2: 22 carries, 116 yards, one touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Sam Singleton, 7 with 24. Not getting to get a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more touches. I was wondering what happened to
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  Speaker 2: Trey Wiseman. I'm not sure if he was hurt just
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  Speaker 2: that in third, but he played literally no snaps after
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  Speaker 2: looking really good against the Mets.
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  Speaker 1: I really think those three backs should.
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  Speaker 3: I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Trying to think from a carry standpoint. I think you
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  Speaker 1: can do.
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  Speaker 1: This is all touches, right? Pass game included.
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  Speaker 2: I think probably about 15 to 17 or 15 to 20,
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  Speaker 2: 15 to 17 per game for Oos. And I want
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  Speaker 2: to say around maybe 10 to 12 for a single
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  Speaker 2: team from a pass.
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  Speaker 1: Standpoint and running.
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  Speaker 2: And then with Trey, probably 8 to 10.
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  Speaker 1: As far as touches. That makes sense in my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: But that's just something small as far as him not
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  Speaker 2: playing because the guys were hot as far as what
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  Speaker 2: we saw from the running back. Utes was kind of
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  Speaker 2: doing his thing, getting hot later in the game. But
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  Speaker 2: that was a question mark for me as to why
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  Speaker 2: we didn't see Trey. Ashton Daniels running the ball. He
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  Speaker 2: had 16 attempts for 71 yards. Even with that, he
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  Speaker 2: looked like he was second guessing running. I've seen Ashton
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  Speaker 2: Daniels running football and him be explosive in that type
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  Speaker 2: of deal. He's a pretty good athlete.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen him.
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  Speaker 2: From Auburn to Stanford, seeing him get out of the pocket, run,
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  Speaker 2: and make damn plays. But for whatever reason, he was
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  Speaker 2: hesitant a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, he could have.
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  Speaker 2: Easily had 100 yards rushing this game, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: if he didn't hesitate and actually hit it.
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  Speaker 1: Felt like he was second-guessing running. And I don't know, man.
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  Speaker 2: It looked kind of weird with him running the football.
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  Speaker 2: He just had a weird damn game overall. Like everything
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  Speaker 2: was like we were thinking too much. He was just
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  Speaker 2: thinking and processing way too much, in my opinion. Instead
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  Speaker 2: of just reacting and playing damn football. Mike Norville in
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  Speaker 2: a play calling standpoint. I think Mike Norville is coaching.
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  Speaker 2: You get what you pay for, right? You get what
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  Speaker 2: you pay for. I'm going to get to that in
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  Speaker 2: a second. I think Mike Norville is coaching scared. I
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  Speaker 2: think he's coaching to protect the quarterback, to not let
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  Speaker 2: this guy rather do what he does in certain situations. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I did see a few pass plays that Mike did design,
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  Speaker 2: and I guess you could say called. that we're open
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  Speaker 2: for sure that, and that goes back to last week
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  Speaker 2: as well against New Mexico State. We should have scored
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  Speaker 2: 50 easily on those guys if we let go of
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  Speaker 2: the ball in certain situations.
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  Speaker 1: And that was what, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, Ashton Daniels did the same damn thing as far
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  Speaker 2: as holding the ball too much and I think it
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  Speaker 2: was a combination of Mike Norvell holding him back as
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  Speaker 2: well too and trying to protect it.
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  Speaker 3: Why? Why?
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  Speaker 2: This is pretty much your make or break season, right,
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to your tenure at Florida State. Why
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  Speaker 2: are you handicapping or play-calling scared in certain situations? Is
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  Speaker 2: it because you've got a quarterback and you see what
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  Speaker 2: the hell he does in practice and you're not comfortable
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  Speaker 2: with it?
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  Speaker 1: Again, you get what you pay for. That goes with
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  Speaker 1: the territory. You get what you pay for.
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  Speaker 2: It's been well documented that Florida State, from the quarterback position,
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  Speaker 2: we are pretty much giving out pennies.
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  Speaker 1: Simple as that.
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  Speaker 2: We're not paying top dollar for quarterbacks. We brought in
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  Speaker 2: a few quarterbacks on visits over the offseason. That didn't
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  Speaker 2: work out due to not coming to a common ground
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  Speaker 2: on the number. Ended up settling in on debt with
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  Speaker 2: Ashton Daniels. And what we settled for is pennies in
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  Speaker 2: relation to the market. If you're not paying top dollar
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  Speaker 2: for a quarterback, you want to get that result, man.
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  Speaker 2: That's just what it is. You got to pay a
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  Speaker 2: few million dollars for a quarterback. That's the name of
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  Speaker 2: the game. FSU has to We have to get with
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  Speaker 2: the times if we want to compete in that regard.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to get the same output. But again, this
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  Speaker 2: is what you got within the transfer portal. This is
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  Speaker 2: the result. That falls on you at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day because this could have been corrected in December.
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  Speaker 2: DJ Lagway. I'm really confident that DJ Lagway would have
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  Speaker 2: been a Florida State Seminole if the number was... I'm
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  Speaker 2: not even saying the number had to be fucking eight
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  Speaker 2: and five.
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  Speaker 1: The number just had to be fair.
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  Speaker 3: That's all.
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  Speaker 1: Lately, I wasn't asking for anything crazy, per sources that
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  Speaker 1: reported to me. Nothing crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to be compensated fairly, and the number
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  Speaker 2: that I've heard, there was no reason to not offer it.
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  Speaker 1: I would have offered that.
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  Speaker 4: First.
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  Speaker 2: I would have led with that number, especially what you've
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  Speaker 2: been hearing from these quarterbacks with eight million.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure the number.
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  Speaker 2: I think eight million for Mensa at Miami, nine or
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  Speaker 2: ten million for Sam at LSU.
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  Speaker 1: As a quarterback, you're going to get paid, so.
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  Speaker 2: With that being said, we pretty much settled on Ashton Damson.
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  Speaker 1: This is kind of what we got, man.
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  Speaker 3: As a result.
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  Speaker 2: But you live with that from a coaching standpoint because
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  Speaker 2: you're coaching so damn scared and timid. You're play calling.
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  Speaker 2: And again, like I said, he has missed a lot
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  Speaker 2: of throws that weren't open. But this is what you
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  Speaker 2: bargained for. This is what you wanted. You felt like
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  Speaker 2: you didn't want to. Then you pay a running back
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  Speaker 2: a lot of money.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get into a deep split. You
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  Speaker 1: pay a running back a lot of money. We already
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  Speaker 1: have pretty good damn running backs.
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  Speaker 2: You could have cut that money in half, gave more
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  Speaker 2: to the damn quarterback, and then got you a legit
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  Speaker 2: right or so tackle on the offensive line to really
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  Speaker 2: get things rolling. But again, everything that we at this
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  Speaker 2: staff is going through, wins, losses, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: say everything, 90%, 85%, 90%, wins, losses, recruiting, this, that,
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  Speaker 2: and the third, everything that we see, the results, is
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  Speaker 2: a direct reflection on the staff and pretty much self-inflicted wounds.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff they put their self in. Stuff that could have
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  Speaker 2: been avoided early on. You see the results and this
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  Speaker 2: is what we have. And I'm not sure, who did
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  Speaker 2: we run that screen with? Was it Landon Thomas? I
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  Speaker 2: think it was Mekhi Danzy, whatever. It was like third
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  Speaker 2: and fourth out of all. Mike Norvell, his play calling
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  Speaker 2: is ridiculous at certain.
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  Speaker 1: Points, right? It's third and four, and we.
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  Speaker 2: What the hell are we doing at third and four
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  Speaker 2: as a receiver screen? When have we ever converted that
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  Speaker 2: bullshit receiver screen, right? Makai or Landon dropping a damn ball,
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  Speaker 2: the block wasn't there, the receiver never blocked the corner
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  Speaker 2: or the defender on the outside. They're always free to
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  Speaker 2: pretty much make a play on their screen at the
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  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage for a minimum gain or for a loss.
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  Speaker 1: So we saw that.
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  Speaker 3: Throw that.
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  Speaker 2: If I see that end around with Makai Danzig, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to legit lose my shit. Throw that play completely
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  Speaker 2: out the damn window. Gus Malzahn ran it in the
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  Speaker 2: ground last year. Ran it in the ground to the
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  Speaker 2: point where the second half of the season, we knew
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  Speaker 2: exactly what the defenders knew once that shit was coming.
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  Speaker 2: They was going to bother Makai. And that literally hasn't changed.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big tendency for teams now. And going back
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  Speaker 2: to last year and Gus, I felt like, and I
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  Speaker 2: kept saying this last year, I felt like early on
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  Speaker 2: the Bama game, those two, I think it was the
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  Speaker 2: G5 and FCS team we played after Bama, we kept
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  Speaker 2: running and kept running and kept running.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, Gus is setting us up for something, right?
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  Speaker 1: Because you can do so much with it.
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  Speaker 2: You can play action off the end of the round,
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  Speaker 2: take a deep shot to deuce, whatever, check down, tight end,
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  Speaker 2: or pitman at that point in time, pitman over the middle,
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  Speaker 2: whatever it may be, faking the Danzy, give it to
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  Speaker 2: the running back underneath, hand it off to the running back,
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  Speaker 2: faking the Danzy, do a power whip time. There's so
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  Speaker 2: many things you could have did with that play, so
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  Speaker 2: I felt like we kept running it over and over
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  Speaker 2: to set things up, but shit, that was just a
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  Speaker 2: damn play, and it carried over this season.
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  Speaker 1: Get that play out of the damn playbook.
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  Speaker 2: It clearly isn't working, man, but again, we In our
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  Speaker 2: third down offense, they go 2 for 15 on third down.
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  Speaker 1: Again, losing football. This is losing football.
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  Speaker 2: The only reason this game was so close is the
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  Speaker 2: four turnovers, but they go 2 for 15 on third down.
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  Speaker 2: In our second down, offense is just as bad. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how many, and we had great first down success.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how many times we've seen a We
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  Speaker 2: get seven, eight yards on first down. We're in second
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  Speaker 2: and three, second and two, second and four situation. And
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  Speaker 2: we end up putting the ball on the fourth and one,
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  Speaker 2: fourth and two, only gaining one to two to three
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  Speaker 2: yards on the next two plays. Like, I've never seen
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  Speaker 2: anything like it. It's like we– first down is great.
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  Speaker 2: You get into second and third down, man, that shit
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  Speaker 2: gets ugly. That shit gets crazy. Stick to your bread
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  Speaker 2: and butter, man. Like that fourth down– Played the Cromwell,
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  Speaker 2: the toss to the left. Offensive line, I think the
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  Speaker 2: toss was bad. Played McGinnis fucking fourth down.
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  Speaker 1: It was one yard.
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  Speaker 2: If I can't get one damn yard, and I blame
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  Speaker 2: Cromwell as well, too. He hesitated and kind of backtracked.
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  Speaker 1: It was one yard. You got to run into a
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  Speaker 1: motherfucker to try to get that one yard.
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  Speaker 2: But I do have an issue with the pitch, but
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  Speaker 2: the main thing is we weren't blocking nobody at the
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  Speaker 2: point of attack. Physical football whooped them. I don't give
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  Speaker 2: a damn about a pitch when it's one yard at
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  Speaker 2: the game. If we can't– I don't care what the
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  Speaker 2: play is from a run standpoint. If we can't gain
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  Speaker 2: one yard, one yard when needed, offensive line get pushed,
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  Speaker 2: running back, bow your neck, run the motherfucker over to
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  Speaker 2: get that one yard. I don't care what the play is. Like,
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  Speaker 2: if we can't get that, that's a problem. But the
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  Speaker 2: play itself could have been a lot better. We could
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  Speaker 2: have ran inside, that type of quarterback sneak, whatever it
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  Speaker 2: may be. But that was just another atrocity when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to the play calling, man. And then whenever we
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  Speaker 2: get a turnover– We got– with the sudden changes, all
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  Speaker 2: of our sudden changes were three and outs.
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  Speaker 1: Like, you know, I think– I'm not going to– I
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  Speaker 1: think all of them were three and outs.
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  Speaker 2: And the one that wasn't three and outs, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: we kicked the field goal because they mucked the punt
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  Speaker 2: in our territory. But, again, offense is terrible, man. Minor
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  Speaker 2: avail play calling wasn't good. Execution wasn't good. Only reason
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  Speaker 2: it's not being talked about as much is because the
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: defense was a lot worse and ended up being, you know,
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  Speaker 2: 8 for 14 on third down and gave up close
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  Speaker 2: to 600 yards in the game. So that's what we
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  Speaker 2: have there as far as it being worse. I want
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  Speaker 2: to wrap things up on the offensive side. I want
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  Speaker 2: to wrap things up on the offensive side. I do
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  Speaker 2: want to open things up for the phone lines. Now,
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  Speaker 2: if you guys want to join in and get your
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: takes off to the show, the time is now. We
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  Speaker 2: don't have too much time as, you know, with it's
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  Speaker 2: been a Monday night and a weeknight. You know, Saturday
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  Speaker 2: morning we kind of hang out for a long time. Well,
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  Speaker 2: Sunday morning, right, we hang out a little bit. Would
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: have been Tuesday. You know, I know people got a
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  Speaker 2: lot of different other engagements. So, again, hit that link
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  Speaker 2: if you guys want to join the show. It's in
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  Speaker 2: the comments section. We're going to have the call-in portion
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  Speaker 2: of the show. You know, there's two things I did,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll discuss these as well right now. Two stats
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  Speaker 2: that kind of stood out. I saw this on Twitter.
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  Speaker 2: I tried to opt the stats. And this show was like.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: And we always have these.
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  Speaker 2: The stats that FSU favor, like one-off stats to where
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  Speaker 2: we're always making news and making headlines in a negative manner.
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  Speaker 2: So SMU, read this, well, listen to this rather. SMU
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  Speaker 2: is the only FBS or NFL team in the last
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  Speaker 2: 30 years, 30 years to have three or worse, well,
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  Speaker 2: minus three or worse turnover margin, twice as many penalties
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  Speaker 2: as their opponent, Fewer rushing yards than their opponent. Lower
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  Speaker 2: top than, I'm sorry, lower T.O.P. I'm not sure what
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  Speaker 2: the hell T.O.P. Lower T.O.P. than their opponent. More missed
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  Speaker 2: field goals than their opponent and still win the game.
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  Speaker 2: So whatever T.O.P. is, you guys let me know in
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  Speaker 2: the comments. I guess I'm a dinosaur when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to certain things. Negative three plus in turnover margin.
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  Speaker 1: Time of possession. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: My apologies.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate your honor. Shout out to the GOAT.
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  Speaker 2: Negative three or worse in turnover margin, twice as many
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  Speaker 2: penalties as the opponent, fewer rushing yards than the opponent,
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  Speaker 2: less time possession than the opponent, more missed field goals
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  Speaker 2: than the opponent, and still won the game.
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  Speaker 1: The only FBS or NFL team in the.
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  Speaker 2: Last 30 years, 30, to win the football game. So again,
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  Speaker 2: I tweeted this. I tweeted this out Literally right after
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  Speaker 2: the game. And I think this is the best definition of.
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  Speaker 1: The game and how FSU performed.
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  Speaker 2: Let me go find this tweet really quickly. I feel
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  Speaker 2: like SMU played like a school teacher that forgot they
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: left all the answers to the test on a chalkboard
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  Speaker 2: and FSU still failed the test. That tweet I just
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  Speaker 2: read pretty much sums it all up. They did everything
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  Speaker 2: in their power to give us that game. But we
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  Speaker 2: did everything in our power to lose the game as
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  Speaker 2: we do, right? And this is the last that I
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  Speaker 2: want to quote. This kind of goes back to the defense.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Saw this on Twitter as well from Liam Rooney. FSU
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: has allowed 904 yards this season. In a whopping 364
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: of those yards.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Bro, this is fucking crazy.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: FSU.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Has allowed 904 yards this season.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: And a whopping 364 of those yards have come exclusively
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: on third down. 40% of the yardage of the 900
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: yards we have given up this year has came on
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: third downs.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: That's just losing football, man. That just shows that.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: I think once the season is over, we're going to
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: be on the bottom end of third down conversions. I
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: don't want to say guarantee, but I have a really
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: good feeling that FSU will be in the hundreds when
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: it comes to third down conversion.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Maybe in the hundreds on.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Both ends because you went two for 15 on offense.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: So just bad football overall. I think we have a
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: call on. We got Chris. Chris, talk to me.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir. How you doing?
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Just figured I'd join in. Appreciate it, man. Appreciate it.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: How you feeling?
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: I'm all right, man.
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: You know, I think that that this is going to
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: be finally some, you know, movement in the right direction
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: to make some change. Like yourself, I played football on
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: the lower level, so I don't know what it's like
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: to be on the big stage. But, man, we won
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: the national championship.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I know what winning looks like. These guys don't.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Carry themselves like that. And they have never done that, really.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, even when they were good, they weren't scary. Like,
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: you know, those Mickey Andrews defenses knock you in the mouth.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: These guys, they were good.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: It gets sex. I don't scare anybody.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: You know, so it's just something that I know this.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Word gets thrown out a lot, culture.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: But God, man, it is.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: It's what it is. There's no culture of like dominance
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: and intimidation. It gets thrown around a lot, man.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: But like you say, if you play football, you know
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: how important it is as far as setting your standards,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: setting your culture for certain things. If you're going to
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: be a dominant physical football team. That starts from the
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: top down as far as the head coach and matriculates
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: through the coordinators, the staff, and then the team. So, again,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I agree with you as far as culture. And it's
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: a phrase that's used a lot when it comes to,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: you know, I guess what's the word I want to use?
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: It's a buzzword, so to speak, but it is so
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: true when it comes to what you're saying.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Like, man, that shit is a culture thing. Like, Mickey,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: I had Brian McFadden on the podcast, like, last year,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: and Brian would talk about, like, they will fear getting beat, right?
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: They'll fear getting beat deep.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Because they know Mickey Andrews is snatching their ass out
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: the game where they're running the next practice or whatever. Like,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: they are so afraid of the repercussions of failing Mickey Andrews,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: so to speak, that made them play so damn good
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: on the field.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: But I agree with you 100%.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and, you know, when I played, I know whoever
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: the other team made a mistake, it was like blood
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: in the water.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: We were going to hammer them for that. They were
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: going to pay the price.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: Like they were never going to do that again for
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: the rest of the season because they did it to us.
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: And you just don't see that.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: We just go, oh, cool.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: And then it's like, forget it. Yeah, I'm with you 100%.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I agree. I agree.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: But I think they see that.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: So I think there's going to be, you know, the
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: plans are in motion now. It would be kind of
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: cool to see Odell, me, maybe. interim before the Central
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: Arkansas game. He'd come in, get a win, everybody feels good,
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: get some energy back in the fan base, you know,
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: because everybody loves Odell. So it's just, you know, that
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: would help that energy added to a win to, like,
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: entice a good coach and entice the fans to come back,
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: entice the guys to open check.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: All right, Chris, so I see what you're thinking.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I see what you're thinking, Chris, and pretty much what
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: the entire fan base is thinking.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to put you on the spot. Give
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: me some candidates that you're thinking or looking at. Yeah.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Did you hear Chris? Oh, so what am I thinking
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: on that?
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I see what you're.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Thinking, so I'm going to kind of put you on
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: the spot a little bit. Give me some guys that's
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: on your short list of coaching hot board.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: Glade Schumann, a defensive coordinator at Georgia. You know, he
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: comes from a culture like that where they, you know,
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: when they sense blood, they go after you. They don't
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: take any prisoners either.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: You know, look at what they did at Tennessee State.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: You know, it's kind of It sucks, you know, to
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: get beat like that when you're a smaller team. But
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: when you're a team like Florida State, Georgia, any of
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: these big programs, that's what you've got to do to people.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: And so he would bring that in. You know, other
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: than that, you're really looking at having a sniper head
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: coach your way, and we're really going to be limited
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: on funds to do that.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: So that's kind of who I keyed.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: In on right now.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, I like it.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Definitely appreciate you joining Chris and tuning in, man.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Make sure you tap in on the record when it
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: comes to, you know, the calling portion.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate your takes.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: Well, man, yeah, man.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you joining. All right, we're going to move on
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: to the next. We got B-Rod on.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: B-Rod, talk to me. How you feeling? What's up, man?
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: How you doing? Can you hear me?
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Pretty good, man.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: I can't complain too much. I mean, we got a
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: lot to complain about right now.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Hey, it is what it is.
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: We, we, on a national stage getting laughed at for
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: the last several seasons, you know, and, and I'm one
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: of the guys, uh, I'm actually from South Carolina, you know,
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: didn't grow up in Florida.
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: My uncle been a fan since the nineties got it
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: from him.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Hey, you know, it is what it is.
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: I've traveled at least five, six games.
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: A year, you know, so I do my part to support,
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: you know, the NIL, the booster, you know, the whole
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: nine yards, whatever.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: But what killed me Last night is the fact that
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: because I own a trucking company.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: So I literally planned a load to.
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: Go down towards Tallahassee, left my trailer, drove all the
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: way down to Tallahassee from Macon, Georgia in my truck
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: just to see us get beat.
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: And easily could have won the game.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? But that's neither here nor there.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Real quick, just to your point, we should have won
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: that game by double digits. It should have been a
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: double-digit win. With everything they gifted us, it should have
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: been a 10-point win at least.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Right. I agree 100%. And the thing is, okay, so
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: we want to change that coach. We know that. The
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: buyout is a little crazy.
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: But I feel like if they really want to, they'll
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: find some kind of way to make it happen.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? They'll find some way to
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: But our options are going to be very limited, you know,
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: come the end of this season because who wants to leave?
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: What options do we have? You know, because we have
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: to spend some money to get somebody to prove it.
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: We don't really want to go the route, I feel like,
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: of a G5 guy because look where it got us.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: And now, all right, so we're going to have to
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: see how Alex Golish does at Auburn.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Will he have success there?
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: Auburn has been hard to do something there the last
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: several years.
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: How is John Summerall going to do in Florida? You
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: know what I mean?
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: And if.
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: Billy wins at James Madison, that just shows you, hey,
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: this is a guy that can recruit three stars. That's
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: what he needs to stay. He just can't get it
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: done at the P4 level.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: So, you know, I mean.
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: like I said, our options is going to be kind
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: of limited.
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't mind somebody like Fran Brown or Manny,
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: you know, Manny is an alum, you know what I mean?
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: But you still gonna have to pay Manny. You know,
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: those guys recruit Florida.
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: Even Fran Brown recruits Florida really good from to Syracuse.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Come on, man.
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: To Syracuse. Who want to go play football in New
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: York in that part of New York? Now, you know
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: what I mean? Obviously some people do, you know? So yeah, we, we,
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: we got to make some kind of change, man. Um,
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: I mean, it is what it is. We're going to
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: still do our part to support. You know, I see
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: the interview last night with Ashton, you know, saying, you know,
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: what can the fans do? Because they heard us out
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: there booing. You know, but we weren't booing them. What
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: was his response?
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Because I didn't want to hear shit that none of
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: them guys had said. Right.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Especially because, like, with Mike, it's like everything he said,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: you could pretty much, you could say, you know what's
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: coming before he says it.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: So it's like a broken record. What did Ashton say?
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: He really just was saying that, you know, basically the
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: spirit about, you know, we're doing our best we can.
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: You know, y'all just got to trust us. You know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: he wasn't being, like, arrogant about it or anything. Like,
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: he was just saying, like, look, we understand.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: We get it. You know, just kind of trust us,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: trust the coaching staff. It's just a whole little spirit
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: like that, you know.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: And I think they probably know we're not booing y'all.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: We're really not.
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: It's the coaching because why are we going for it
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: on fourth down early in the game like that? that
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: really turned that game, man. You know what I'm saying? Like,
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: it's stuff like that. You know, why are we running
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: a pitch play, you know, for a fourth down to
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: the short side of the field, I believe it was,
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: where you got five guys to game tackle Cromer.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: So it's just like, it's stuff like that.
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: Why are we playing so far back off, you know,
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: on third and sixth, and we four or five yards
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: past the line of game, you know, the first down line.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Just stuff like that.
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: It's like, what are we doing? We got some NIL money.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: Why are we paying for a running back that didn't
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: get any snaps last night? Now, if he's getting beat
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: out in practice, it is what it is. But line
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: on the offensive-defensive side, obviously, and a good quarterback, it's
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: going to have to be over $ 800, 000 for a quarterback
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: if we're going to keep going the transfer route.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: That's fine to a degree.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: But if we're going to have a transfer guy, at least.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: He's a two-year guy, man.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Even not with the transfer, I think it's going to
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: be just the quarterback in general because at the flip end,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: on the flip end, if we do recruit a guy
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: just in the third, other schools will be trying to
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: poach him, right? So you got to pay his ass
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: just to keep him on campus.
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: If you recruit a high school kid, portal guy, whatever.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: But I do agree.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I think it seems like the portal is the way
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: to go with quarterbacks now.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: But regardless, either way, going to have to pay him
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: because if you bring in a five-star quarterback this and
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: a third, he could be gone within a year or
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: so by other teams trying to pay a certain amount
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: of money in today's market.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Agreed. Agreed.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: You know, at least get you a two-year guy.
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: Imagine if we could have got Mensah a few years
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: ago because wasn't he at Tulane, then went to Duke,
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: and now at Miami?
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Dude is killing it. Killing it.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Like if we That's something that he could have easily
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: been attainable by, you know, from Florida State.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: And it's crazy because the current GM now who was
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: at Duke played a part in getting him there.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: But to your point that he could have easily been
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: a quarterback that we got. He could have been balled
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: out last year, then year two.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: That goes to keep us.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: But we knew right then once Gus was hired who
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: his guy was off the roof.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Right, right.
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: And, you know, I mean, I hate to say it,
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: but I bet you, we wouldn't be complaining about a
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: Gus offense right.
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: Now to a degree, you know what I mean?
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: As, as, as much as we did complain last year, we,
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: we got some yards up, you know, we didn't always
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: get points, unfortunately, but that goes to, you know, receivers
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: dropping the ball Clemson game last year.
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: I can't, you know, eight, what, eight to 10 drops.
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: I believe in that game.
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: One of them, I sat there and watched wide open
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: touchdown pass, dropped it, you know, you know, and we're.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Also, why didn't we keep a pitman?
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: He did his thing against us last night.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Especially when our kids have been playing like it. That
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: room isn't good at all.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: You got a 6'6 receiver.
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: Need to be getting at least 8 to 10, you know,
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: targets a game. I think he barely got three. Now,
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: he did drop one. You know, he dropped a contested.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: But still. But I think that starts with that line
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: and coaching.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: But I will say this. Deuce should not see no
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: less than 10 to 12 balls a game.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You got to throw to him 10 to 12
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: times a game.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: I don't think we even threw, what, maybe one to
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: two balls over 20, 30 yards in the air.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think we did.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: You may be right.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: Maybe that one to Deuce that he dropped, but that
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: might have been about the only.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: One, which is on the quarterback.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: And not including that last drive, you know, where you
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: absolutely had to throw it down the field.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Just drive. I think I agree with you.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah. So, yeah.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, it is what it is.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: As the game progresses. SMU adjusted and even though we're
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: still getting success, but they adjusted. They were daring us
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: to throw the damn ball.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: They kept, there was walking safeties. They were daring us
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: to throw the ball. But again, for whatever reason, Ashton couldn't,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: he wasn't getting it done and Mike wasn't trusting him
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: to get it done in certain situations because they were
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: definitely daring us to throw the ball for sure.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: Now, I did notice the way they did better this
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: game compared to, you know, I guess the slight little
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: vanilla against New Mexico State.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Ashton actually kept the ball. Yeah, he ran it.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: One thing I did see that I liked that we
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: didn't do against New Mexico State, which we did a
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: lot more last night, we had the split backs with
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Sam and Promo.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: We didn't see that at all. Well, week zero, rather.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: They showed a little bit last night, and they had
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: some success whenever they used it.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: I agree.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: I agree.
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just hope we don't have a terrible, you know,
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: I mean, we got a stretch coming up. You know
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: what I mean? Because I'll be in attendance at Louisville.
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: I'll be at home in Tallahassee for the Clemson game.
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: I'll be going to Pittsburgh. But, I mean, we got
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: to play Louisville. Good team, always, right? Jeff Brown, great coach.
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: I mean, we know what time it is in Miami.
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: I ain't got to say nothing on that. And I
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: hate to even say this as an FSU fan, lifelong fan.
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: Malachi Tony, that guy. You know, I wish we had
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: somebody like that. But you got to get him the ball.
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: So it don't matter what you do. You still got
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: to get him the ball. And they have a guy
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: that can get him the ball, period. You know, plus
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: the other receiver that they bought from Duke as well.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: And they have a coordinator, man. Man, I forgot the
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: damn coordinator name just that quick. The Miami coordinator, the
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, he gets him the ball.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Puts him in different places, matchups, this and that. They
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: emphasize giving Tony the ball. It's something we don't do, man,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: which I don't get. Like, they emphasize getting their best
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: player the ball.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: It's not the Shannon guy, is it? That's not the quarterback,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: is it?
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Shannon Dawson.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Shannon Dawson. Okay, okay, okay.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: That is.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. I couldn't remember.
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: But, yeah, you know, so like I said, that, of course,
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: you know, Alabama looking to get revenge. You know what
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: time it is with that. Central Arkansas, we should, you know,
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: do whatever with them.
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: But, Yeah, I mean, we got a stretch. We got
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: a stretch coming up.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: Virginia, oh, man, they beat NC State, you know, Dookie
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: dropping down their leg.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Like, it was bad.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So, hey, I mean, that's
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: a stretch.
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: I mean, even if they get rid of him, people
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: say about Odell, Odell does not want a head coach.
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: He already said he does not want to do it here.
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: You know, his family just came on the Facebook group, said,
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: your daughter, he does not.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Want to do it.
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: He may enter him to the end of the season,
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: but he does not want to head coach for the state.
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: You know, which he's like one of the only guys
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: that knew the, you know, the 90s culture and all.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: They're still around, but he don't want to head coach.
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: So that's just not an option.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: But I don't know if Mike make it through the season, man.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: They might have to let him go.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: But probably not.
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: The Miami game is going to tell, you know, that, that,
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: you know, but I think that's what October, like the 17th,
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: maybe something to that effect.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: We are nobody.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not a, I'm not a betting man myself, but, um,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: I would say, I don't think Mike makes.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: It through the season as well too.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: It is what it is, but it ain't going to
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: take up too much of your time, man. Hey, appreciate
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: you letting me call in brother. Appreciate you joining.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: No doubt. No doubt. Thank you.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: We got my guy, tiny head CEO, Talk to.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Me, bro. Yes, yes, yes. The Tiny Hat CEO has
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: returned to Dope Talk. First off, shout out to CJ.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: How you doing, bro? Pretty good, my boy. Oh, yeah.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I'm tired as hell, man. So let me tell you
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: about my day yesterday, dog. Let me build a little bit.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: So, man, we had the damn tailgate, right?
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: So pretty much from like 1.30, 2 o'clock to 6.30
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: or whatever.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: And I'm working.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I ain't enjoying it. I ain't like kicking back and
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: relaxing the.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Tailgate, right?
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Moving around, working, making sure everything's good. Shaking hands, kissing babies,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: all that type of deal. Get over the dope. Sitting
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: in this hot-ass, stank-ass stadium for two hours just waiting
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: for the game to start.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Then we have output.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I didn't leave the stadium until about 2.30.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Got up for work. It's been a long damn day, bro.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Boy, listen, listen, the dedication that this fan base shows
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: to this program, nobody's going to tell me that there's
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: a better fan base in all of college football than
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: the Florida State Seminoles fans. All right. So that's, that's
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: the first thing I would do a shout out CJ
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: and everybody at lot 19 who did work at the tailgate.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Shout out to everybody who was in the stands that
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: stayed there after all that mess. Uh, and shout out
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: to us as the FSU community and the faithful out here, because, um,
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: we really are supporting some pure and utter just bullshit
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: is what we're doing right now. That's what this is.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: It's trash. This is pure and utter trash. All right.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: And I, for one, I'm going to tell everybody who's
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: watching this and I'm going straight to the timeline. Go
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: to clickspin.com right now and go ahead and get you
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: an online account so that you can get you a
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: loan so that we can go ahead and get this
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: dude up out of here because he got to go.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: He got to go, bro. I said it after the
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: last game. I said I wasn't going to jump off
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: the bridge. I said we was going to give them
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: some grace. First game, everybody coming up, blah, blah, blah.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: And I said, we're going to see what happens at
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: the game, too. Well, game two just happened. And this
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: was a historically bad game. Even though we lost the
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: game close, that game should have been a beatdown. And
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: by every metric that you want to find, it was
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: a whooping. The coaching staff is trash. The trenches were trash.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: The linebackers were great. Lavallee, listen, if I lived in Tallahassee,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: that boy would never have to pay for a gut
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: box ever again if that was me. That boy is
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: on point. Lavallee is on point. The secondary, trash. I
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: want everybody gone. I need everybody gone. So I'm not
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: even talking to anybody on that staff. I'm talking to
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: the president now. I'm talking to Peter Collins now. I'm
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: talking to the big dogs, the people. You've seen, what's
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: that movie with Will Smith where they had all of
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: the little villains that came together? The one where it
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: was Will Smith, he was dead shot, and they had
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: the little Harley Quinn girl.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, shit. Damn, bro.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: I forgot what the name of the movie was.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, DC movie.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the DC joint. Suicide Squad. But I'm thinking about
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: the scene where they had him put the gun in
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: his hand and he had him pop one of the
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: shots off and then put all of the little holes. Yeah,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: he was at their shoot. Yeah, yeah. No, but then
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: he turned around after he put on that beautiful display
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: of marksmanship, and he was like, look, here is my price.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: I want my daughter to get X, Y, Z, yada, yada, yada,
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: looking at the white man in his face. And the
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: man said, oh, that's your price? He goes, I'm not
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: talking to you. I'm talking to your boss. That's how
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: I feel right now. Suicide squad. Yeah, shout out to
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Ryan Driscoll in the chat. Yeah, that's how I feel
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: right now. I ain't talking to Mike. I ain't talking
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: to Alfred. I'm talking to your bosses now. Y'all need
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: to get this entire program washed. Get them out. Every
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: single one of them. Gotta go. I'm talking the AD
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: gotta go. I need the head coach gone. All of
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: the coaching staff can get out. Strength and conditioning can go.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: I need the nutritionists up out of there. I want
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: the GAs up out of there. I need them firing
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: the secretaries. I need the dudes that are out there
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: cleaning the stadium after the game over goal. I want
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: the people who were in the parking lot. They all
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: up for reevaluation at this point. Top to bottom. They
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: say tear it down to the studs. We ain't tearing
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: nothing down to the studs. We are tearing this house
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: all the way down. We breaking up the foundation and
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: digging up the damn septic tank from up underneath it
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: so that we can put a whole new foundation in.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: That's what we need to do at this point, because
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: this don't make no sense, what we just watched out here.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Recruiting is terrible. Oh, he's taking back over the play caller,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: play caller, play caller. The play caller was miserable. It
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: was miserable. And then for you to call those plays,
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: showing everybody who watched that game that you don't trust
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: your quarterback to throw the ball, your quarterback that you
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: brought in here and spit the bread on, that you
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: done brought in here. He's scared to throw the ball.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: He looked like a damn deer in headlight. Hell, it
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: was at one point at one point in the second quarter.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I was like, no, let me see. Let me see
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: the kid that you just got out of high school.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Burn his red shirt right now. I don't care if
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: he 162 pounds. You know what? James Blackman was 162
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: pounds and we threw his ass out there. Well, let's
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: see the young kid. Put him out there at this point.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: I don't want to see nothing from this man with
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: this program at all. He's done. We need to get
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: them out of there. The D.C., you would have been
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: a hot commodity if you went out there on the
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: open market. If everybody knew you was out there, I
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: need you gone. Get them out the paint. Anybody that
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: is on this team right now that is getting paid
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: from a player perspective, yank contracts, send them on their
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: merry way. I don't care. I don't care. We can
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: be bad next year, and we can be bad the
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: year after that, but whoever the hell they bring in here,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: they need to get this guy, go out there and
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: talk to him right now. I don't care if he
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: on another staff. I don't care if he's on the
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: contract on TV. I don't care if you got to
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: go dig up the bones from some legendary quarterback or
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: coach from 30, 40 years ago. Get him on the
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: paperwork and get him out here on the trail at
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: this point. This dude needs to go. My program is
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: in shambles right now. I was in a space today
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: I was in a Florida State space today from 8
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning until I logged in to talk
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: to you right now. That's how long the space been going, bro.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: That's how long the space been going. It's been going
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: from 8 o'clock this morning and it's still going right now.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: I've listened to diehard Mike Norvell fans. I've listened to
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: them crashing out. I've listened to people that were always
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: positive about Florida State. Ah, man, what you want them
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: to do? This is what we're doing. A little change here, there.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: The sunshine pumpers. Hey, Florida State, undefeated all day, every day, blah, blah.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: I done heard every type of Florida State fan, from
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: the super positive to the Florida State can't do nothing
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: right unless we holding up a championship trophy at the
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: end of the season, Florida State fans. Every single one
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: of us agrees on the same thing. He got to go.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: His boss got to go. And we want it done yesterday.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: He shouldn't have even been allowed to give a press conference.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: He shouldn't even been in the press conference. They shouldn't
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: have had a press conference. The press conference should have
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: been Peter Collins and the chairman of the school and
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: the president of the school. All of them, every single
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: one of them should have been sitting there saying he's done.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: And we're going to name this guy, put Tom Herman's
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: ass up there, and let him go out there and
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: just coach up the young players. You know what we're
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: going to do? We're running freshmen and sophomores from here
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: on out. Everybody else who's a junior, senior, six-year player,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: all of y'all are all depth pieces at this point.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: That's what I need to see. That's what I need
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: to see at this point because it's miserable. It is miserable.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: And then I just listened to the last person who
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: was talking just now. He's spot on with some of
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: the stuff he's saying. I thought that this was going
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: to be possibly a four-win team this season. And the
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: four wins I had was the first game of the year,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: the Central Arkansas joint, the Boston College joint, and then
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: maybe we could find something else. Hopefully Virginia, somebody else
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: we can knock on the door.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Nope.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Three wins is all we get in this season. And
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: that's if Boston College don't red bandana our ass up
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: out the stadium. That's if they don't do that. We
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: are a three-win program right now. This ain't even no program.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: I'm used to having a program, a P-R-O-G-R-U-M. Florida State
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: was a program. This ain't even no program right now.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: You know what this is? You know what this is?
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: This is a damn church fan that they hand you
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: when you walk into some hot-ass church in the hood
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: right now. This ain't even no program. You can't even
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: see what the hymns are. You can't even see what
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: the word of the week is going to be. They're
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: not even handing you nothing at this point. Florida State,
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: if this was a cookout, and you know what? I'm
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: glad you had the tailgate. If this was a tailgate
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: or a cookout right now, you know what this is?
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Florida State is a kid that's coming up asking for ribs,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: and kids is only allowed to eat hot dogs. That's
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: what we are. We only allowed to eat hot dogs
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: right now. We can't go get ribs. Our mama got
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: to hopefully go up there and get a burger and
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: some ribs and give us one after she done chewed
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: it up at this point. This is a miserable situation
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: that we in right now. This is terrible. This is terrible.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: This is just a travesty. And I'm done with it.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: I'm done with it. I'll never root for my team
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: to lose. I will never root for my team to lose.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: We got two weeks. I need him fired at some point.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: You know what? No. Let him stay on. Let him
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: stay on. I need him to go up there to Tuscaloosa.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Go ahead and do your game plan. Do what you
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: got to do. Two straight weeks. You're going to go
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: up there. You're going to get your head caved in.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: You're going to get beat outside. You're going to get
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: stomped out like a brother that was in a club
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: getting a little too frisky and security had to tune
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: him up. That's what this is. You're going to go
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: up there. You're going to walk out looking like Martin
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: after Tommy Hitman Hearns put the paws on. That's what
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: we're going to look like. And then you get them
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: up out in the paint. Because who do we play
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: after Alabama? Do we got Miami after Alabama?
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Central Arkansas.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: No, don't even give him another win. Don't even give
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: him another win. Don't even give him another win. Just
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: get him out the paint right after that. That's what
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: we need to do at this point because I'm done
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: with it. We could have had the coach that's up
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: there in Blacksburg right now. We could have had him
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: on the sideline. I'll tell you this right now. I
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: guarantee you this team would have looked much better than
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: that mess that we saw last night. I guarantee you
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: we would have looked better than that. This will make
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: no damn sense. The one shining beacon that we got,
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: we got two shining beacons out here. I say one,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: it's two. We got LaValle, who I hope is healthy.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: I hope that boy go out there and put more
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: good film out there on tape and show what it's
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: supposed to look like. That boy ran through a blocker's chest.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: That boy pushed the blocker back into the running back
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: and then went and made the tackle. That's how you
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: blow up a block. That's a Florida State linebacker right there.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: LaValle is always going to get love from me. And
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: the other one is Cromer. Cromwell looked like he'd walk
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: around like he'd just sleep on top of a horse.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: That boy's legs looked like parentheses. And he is out
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: here hauling ass left and right. He got to wear
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Dickies his whole life because he don't want people to
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: see how bow-legged he is. That's how bow-legged that boy
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: is right there. That boy is a monster. And it's
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: a damn shame that we're going to waste a kid
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: who could be a generational talent behind that piss-poor-ass O-line.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Terrible O-line play. I saw they got the African out
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: of there.
• 44:32
  Speaker 8: Bye. Bye.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Get your ass back on the boat and send him
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: on up wherever else the hell you need to go, bro.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: We'll replace him with him because I didn't really see
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: him on the field.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: I think they put Paps out there on the side.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: They moved him over after they got the African off
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: of the right tackle spot. And, I mean, good God, bro.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: How you that big and big for nothing? Like, come on, bro.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: Come on, bro. After he got Ashton Daniels just de-cleated,
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: they was like, nah, we got to go ahead and
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: get him up out of the paint. And I'm glad
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: they did it. But this is an all-around mess. The
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: secondary look like they still don't know how the hell
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: to look in the backfield and then run with the
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: guy who's running with you. It don't make no damn sense.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: The one thing Florida State always has is DBs. That's
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: the one thing.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: We are DBU.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: I don't want to hear about nobody else. Ohio State, Texas,
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: the Shames, all of it. I don't want to hear it.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Florida State is DBU. And there's no reason for our
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: DBs to look this terrible. They ain't even mediocre. They
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: ain't even mediocre. If I was the head coach of
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: this team, everybody who got a single digit on, I'm
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: yanking your jersey. Damn that. If you got on, who
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: is that, number three? Number three, that thing he dribbling,
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: left and right. Like, what you thought you was doing, bro?
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: You got the nerve to be a D-tackle with a
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: single digit on. Are you dribbling? Like, doing some old terrible, like,
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: he was up there dribbling like the white girl on
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: Save the Last Dance. Like, get your ass out of here, bro.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Get out of here, non-dancing. Oh, I'm going to dribble
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: and try to– I'm going to Harlem Shake like I'm
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Dave Chappelle out here acting like I'm Diddy to try
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: to confuse somebody. Man, as soon as that ball got hiked,
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: he got jacked up and pancaked.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: Like, really?
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: No, he's wearing number 63. That's what you're wearing. Everybody
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: who got single digits, I'm going to make all of
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: them wear some nonsense. As a matter of fact, they
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: can keep their single digit on, and we're going to
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: put two digits on the outside. Oh, you're number three? No,
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: you're number 130 right now because you're that trash. Because
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: you're the 130th best defensive tackle in the country right now. Now,
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: that's what you are. This is terrible. This is terrible.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: I'm done, bro. I'm done. I'm not going to sit
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: here and let this ruin my college football season. I
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: saw so much other nonsense. I was on my shoulder
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: the other night. I just laughed. I laughed. I said,
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: you know what? I can laugh right now because my
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: team has yet to embarrass me this week. So I
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: can talk trash about everybody else. I made fun of Michigan.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: I made fun of the Big Ten. I made fun
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: of Clemson for getting their asses spanked. I made fun
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: of Oregon for struggling with Boise State. I was out
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: here laughing at everybody. Until I turned on the TV
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: last night and saw the biggest joke of them all,
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: which is the Florida State Seminoles football program. That's what
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: this is. Get him out of my program. Get him
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: off my sideline. I don't want to hear his raspy-ass
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Doc Rivers voice no more. I'm done with it. Get
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: him out the paint. All right? You know what he
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: can do? He can go be a GA somewhere else.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: And to the players, and this is all I'm going
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: to say about the players, because I'm not going to
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: blame the kids. Yeah, y'all made terrible mistakes, but you
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: know what? And y'all getting paid now. But I'm not
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: going to say nothing to y'all. Here is what I
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: would say if I was a coach and what the
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: coach and I would hope that our coaches are saying
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: to them. Where's your pride? Where's your pride at? You're
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: putting film out here for people to see. What's your
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: goal in life? You want to go to the league?
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: You think somebody in the league going to pick you
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: up putting this film out here? That's what you think?
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. How many players right now,
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: if they walked along campus and took their helmet or
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: ain't have no Florida State gear on, how many of
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: them going to actually get some play? None of them
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: because all of them soft. Don't nobody know who you are.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: One thing you know about being at Florida State is
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: you knew the players. You knew the players. Jared Burse
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: could walk around on that campus right now and snatch
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: it because they know who he is. Trey Benson, they
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: know who he is. We can go all the way back.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Peter Ward, they know who he is. Dalvin Cook, they
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: know who you are. Marvin Jones, old as hell, they
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: know who you are. How many people on this squad
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: are we going to look back on in five years? Hell,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: in two years and say, that kid right there left
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: his mark on Florida State. Hell, Jermaine Johnson played for
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: us for nine months and everybody can.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Say Jermaine Johnson now.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: He's good forever in Tallahassee. That boy got a brick
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: right now after nine months of work. We remember Jermaine Johnson.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: How many of the players on this squad are we
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: going to remember? Not a damn one. And the fact
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: that you are at one of the blue blood programs
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: of the NCAA right now, in college football, and nobody
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: knows who you are, you ain't leaving no mark, that
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: lets me know that you're not leaving a mark. You
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: are a mark. Every single one of y'all should be
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: ashamed of yourselves. this bitch asses and this softness that
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: I see in my program right now, I'm not tolerating
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: it no more, not tolerating it no more. It's ridiculous.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: And then we think we're going to go to the
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: Big Ten and collect all of this bread and we're
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: going to do X, Y, Z. No, you are a
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: terrible ass program right now. They talk about we second rate.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: We ain't even second rate no more. We damn near
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: third rate right now. All of the jokes I'm getting, man,
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: I had people blowing me up on the timeline going, damn, bruh,
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: y'all going to the Big Ten. Y'all might be going
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: to the Big East. Damn, we in the Big East now? Like,
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: that's what we doing? Like, come on, bruh. This is terrible.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: This is terrible. No pride whatsoever. What-so-ever. Out of the players,
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: out of the coaches. I don't know what the hell
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: y'all getting paid for. I would like to, honestly, if
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: I had a chance to ask Mike Novell one question,
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: I would legitimately ask him this. I go, what do
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: your quarterbacks do during the week? Because they damn sure
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: not looking at film. They damn sure not throwing the
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: ball downfield. They damn sure not do. I mean, what
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: do they do all week long? Because you got a 6'6,
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: inch tall, wide receiver that was manned up by a 5'9,
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: cornerback all night. You targeted him, what, four times? Four times?
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: The man got four catches on 50 yards for the season.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: And one of the games was against a D2 school. 6'6. 6'6,
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: being guarded by a 5'9, head up. Head up. I'll
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: say that for all of the nonsense that we gave
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: him last year, hell, Tommy would have aired that motherfucker
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: out last year. Deuce would have got his targets. We
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: got one kid who's probably the fastest wide receiver in
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: college football on the other side of the field. We
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: can't hit him on a proper go route. Hell, I
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: saw the man run a go route. I had to
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: turn around and slow down and catch the shit because
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: of the miserable past that this sorry ass quarterback that
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: we got threw out here. But our coach think that
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: he the quarterback whisperer. He think he can change something.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: We saw the film. We knew he was trash before
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: he got here. And by every report that I'm seeing
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: right now, he was like your ninth pick, and you
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: went and panic-paid his Sarab. And then you turn around
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: when you got two workhorses in the backfield, and you're
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: going to dump money on a running back out of
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Texas that played in garbage time last week. I understand
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: he ain't have a spring and a summer, but I
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: don't give a damn. I got a workhorse, a young
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: workhorse with legs that's ready to go and that look
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: like a damn bow and arrow at this point. You
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: could put a string on that boy and shoot arrows
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: because his legs that bent. And then I got another
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: boy that's quick, shifty, and is moving piles in Singleton.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: My running back room is solid right now, but we
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: got an O-line that's trash. We got a quarterback that's trash.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: We got a play caller that's trash. And I'm supposed
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: to sign up for this? Man, Florida State Nation, don't
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: go to NAMM games for the rest of the year.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: The only reason you even need to be up there
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: at this point is if you want to boo Mike
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: the next time they put him on the Jumbotron. I
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: heard about what happened up there. It was like, hey,
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: Marching Chiefs, you get to go to the Macy's Day
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: Parade and play.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: Boo!
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: Booed his ass out of here. Not the Chiefs. They
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: booed Mike. And that right there just goes to show
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: you how ass backwards this program is. You know he's unpopular.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: You know we've been calling to get him fired. You've
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: seen the signs that we holding up. Y'all got people
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: on social media seeing it. And y'all didn't think they
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: had a foresight to have anybody else in the stadium
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: let the marching Chiefs know that. You could have had
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: anybody else let them know that. But you put his
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: salt and pepper headed ass up there for him to
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: get booed. Like, come on, bro. This program is miserable.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: And I'm done with it. I'm done with it. Anyway,
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: outside of that, though, I had a fantastic day today.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: I had a fantastic day today, so I hope they
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: didn't ruin your day too much because I know you
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: catch a hell on the timeline just like I am
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: at this point. All I can do is sit back
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: and just look because I'm down here. I live down
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: here in South Florida. These Shames fans are relentless. I'm
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: seeing people don't even know nothing about the school walking
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: around with damn University of Coral Gables, Her Shames paraphernalia
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: all over their cars, all over their shirts. They just
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: got it on key chains. It's the people that I
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: don't even know nothing about football. I got people that
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: was born in Haiti, walking around here, talking about the
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: university of Coral Gables, her or Shane's. I'm like, man,
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: you a soccer fan. Like get the hell out of here.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: And I got to live amongst this. I come on, bro.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: This is terrible. This is terrible. And I, I need
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: to know when. That's all I need to know. I
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: need to know when. If you're not going to do
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: it right now, you want to let him go get
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: his head caved in by Alabama? Cool. Then let him
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: get his head caved in by Alabama. Let's install another
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: coach and let's get the youth out there so that
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: we can get these boys some actual development. We need
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: our coaches that are still going to be on staff.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: We need y'all to teach what's going on. That's what
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: we need you to do for the rest of the year.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: I'll take three wins if I got a whole youth
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: movement and this head coach gone. I already said it
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: last year, and I told you on this program right here.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: I said it last year when they told us that
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: he was coming back before the Florida game. I said
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: that they've just let us know that they're punting on
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: the 2026 season. That's exactly what they told us, and
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: that's exactly what we're seeing out here on the field.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: They punted on this season, and now they need to
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: do right by us, this same loyal fan base that
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: packed out that stadium last night and stayed after some
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: moron tore up a damn transformer. And all of us
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: who watch the games, they need to do right by
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: us and get him out of there. Tiny Hat Gang,
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: we out. Go Nobles, baby.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: My God, Tiny Hat, appreciate you for joining. Y'all is
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: bringing the heat. We're going to jump over to Ronald.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: um it'll be the last caller we have for the
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: night just to wrap the show up ron are you
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: there talk to me what you got.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Hold on yeah let me unmute can you hear me
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: yeah you sound pretty good you're good.
• 55:02
  Speaker 8: To go okay yeah i had called in last but
• 55:05
  Speaker 8: i actually talked to tony head earlier on um twitter
• 55:09
  Speaker 8: but um I went scorched earth when I called it
• 55:14
  Speaker 8: last week. And bro, I've been so mad all day.
• 55:20
  Speaker 8: I'm really mad because I stayed up to watch the bullshit.
• 55:24
  Speaker 8: Was really mad. I knew he was going to lose
• 55:26
  Speaker 8: and I never bet against my team. And I took
• 55:30
  Speaker 8: SMU minus three and a half. I bumped it up
• 55:32
  Speaker 8: a half a point and fuck around and lost my push.
• 55:34
  Speaker 8: So that made me more mad that I stayed up
• 55:36
  Speaker 8: and lost my fucking bet.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: So stayed up, bet against the team and lost.
• 55:42
  Speaker 8: I don't never bet against Florida State, but that's how
• 55:46
  Speaker 8: I know I don't get the apathy to set in
• 55:48
  Speaker 8: so much because I don't even bet against my team.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck it.
• 55:52
  Speaker 8: If we're going to lose, I might as well get
• 55:54
  Speaker 8: some money.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: Listen, I'm looking at clips on Twitter.
• 56:01
  Speaker 8: I knew we was playing off coverage, which we shouldn't
• 56:04
  Speaker 8: have been, but it's third and one.
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: We're 15 yards off the ball.
• 56:12
  Speaker 8: I said this to my friend, the exact same words
• 56:15
  Speaker 8: of what Tanya had said earlier. This is D-B-U. You
• 56:21
  Speaker 8: recruited Lester and all these other guys.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: Let them go out there and play man.
• 56:27
  Speaker 8: Florida State football has always been four down linemen. We're
• 56:32
  Speaker 8: going to have two dogs at the end. We're going
• 56:34
  Speaker 8: to be able to get pressure, and we're going to
• 56:36
  Speaker 8: be able to man up and cover your ass on
• 56:38
  Speaker 8: the outside.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: That's Florida State football. D-B-U. This 3-3-5, I knew it
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: was a bad idea when we.
• 56:46
  Speaker 8: Got it, when I gave him a chance. Hell, we
• 56:48
  Speaker 8: lit Tony White's ass up when he was at Syracuse.
• 56:53
  Speaker 8: I remember that, and I was like, why is.
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: This dude getting all the play? Because I don't remember
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: him being good. I was like, let me give him
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: a chance. But nah.
• 57:02
  Speaker 8: Who the hell told Mandrell that he was playing 2K? Bro,
• 57:12
  Speaker 8: Then the funny part about it, you got your ass
• 57:15
  Speaker 8: obliterated right when you came across that line. And I'm
• 57:19
  Speaker 8: glad they jacked his ass up because, dude. And they
• 57:23
  Speaker 8: hyped up Nick Williams as a defensive end coach. If
• 57:27
  Speaker 8: he ain't cussed that man out after that play, they
• 57:32
  Speaker 8: could at least, bro.
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: And this is how I feel. The way that defense
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: was set up last night was a fireball offense.
• 57:42
  Speaker 8: If you ain't going to fire Mike this week, at
• 57:45
  Speaker 8: least fire Tony White and let somebody else coordinate the
• 57:49
  Speaker 8: defense and get something going.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: Because as long as.
• 57:53
  Speaker 8: That man calling plays, and then I know the defense,
• 57:59
  Speaker 8: now I could be wrong, but the head coach has
• 58:02
  Speaker 8: a ton of me to overrule certain stuff, correct? So
• 58:07
  Speaker 8: if you see that they're playing 15 yards off the ball,
• 58:10
  Speaker 8: it's like.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: Third and one.
• 58:12
  Speaker 8: As a head coach, wouldn't you go over to Tony
• 58:14
  Speaker 8: and be like, Tony, what are you trying to accomplish here?
• 58:18
  Speaker 8: Why are we just giving them first downs? That's what
• 58:22
  Speaker 8: I want to know. What was the conversation between Mike
• 58:24
  Speaker 8: and Tony? Did you not intervene and say, dude, what
• 58:28
  Speaker 8: are you doing? This don't make no sense. Like, at
• 58:33
  Speaker 8: this point, bro, I wouldn't let Mike Norvell coach a
• 58:36
  Speaker 8: damn AU team. Like, Bro, some of this is coming since.
• 58:41
  Speaker 8: You getting paid $ 10 million? You can't recruit? You can't develop?
• 58:47
  Speaker 8: And you can't coach? We got the damn coach from
• 58:54
  Speaker 8: Waterboy that lost his playbook. Just sitting there lost at
• 58:57
  Speaker 8: the beginning of the movie. That is Mike Norvell in
• 59:01
  Speaker 8: a nutshell.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Damn, that's a good one.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: Boy, listen. I can't remember what his name is. Coach Kline.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: We got Coach Kline.
• 59:09
  Speaker 8: We are the damn Louisiana Mud Dogs.
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: We got Coach Kline out here. And we might as well, bro.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 59:27
  Speaker 8: At least give us Tony Whitehead on the platter or something.
• 59:30
  Speaker 8: But if you remember my call last week, what did
• 59:33
  Speaker 8: I say? I said, we're going to lose the SMU.
• 59:37
  Speaker 8: I said, we losing the Bama and his ass is
• 59:40
  Speaker 8: going to get fired at Virginia. That thing is coming
• 59:45
  Speaker 8: to fruition. I'm telling you, I saw it.
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: Virginia is D-Day.
• 59:50
  Speaker 8: We're going to get blowed out by Alabama.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: I went back and looked at that game.
• 59:56
  Speaker 8: That quarterback is going to eat us alive. He might
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 8: have a damn house.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: In a moment.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: He had a good game against NC State. Man, listen.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: He ran for over 100 yards.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 8: And Dennis, the times he did scramble, he got long
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 8: runs and he's not even looking to run.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: This dude might run for about 150.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't set the edge at all.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: No, we can't.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 8: When your end's getting pancaked, and listen, I don't know who,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 8: everybody hyped up her hand evaluation and his teacher. If
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 8: he's the one that evaluated 79 and said he could
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 8: play on this level, That's a fireball offense. I was
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 8: an offensive lineman. I probably can block better than that
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 8: motherfucker right now, and I'm 38. I probably can, bro.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 8: He is trash. Like, Your footwork's bad. Your head's in
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 8: the wrong place. Like, it's like he hadn't even been coached.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 8: And then you had the nerve precinct. We got them.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 8: Jonathan Daniels coming along. We got Bowling. We got Paps.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 8: And that's the five you rolled out.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: And then Tiny had, like you.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 8: Said, we moved– we put Bowling at right guard, and
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 8: they moved Paps out to right tackle.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: Then that's when we started moving the ball.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: That's when we started moving up. You was at the games.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: We put both in there.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: Then they moved the right guard. Passed out the right tackle.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 8: That's when we started moving the ball in the second
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 8: half because we couldn't do that because of him before that.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 8: It took out two quarters and four quarters of last
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 8: week and all of summer to know that this kid
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 8: can't play.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: And you started him.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 8: And if that's the case, if I'm Jonathan Daniels and
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 8: them guys, I'm going to say, just like all the
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 8: other offensive linemen, I must need to transfer because if
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 8: this guy's starting over me, what does that tell me?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: And you recruited me. Listen, I would take a fix
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: that he's starting over me.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 8: But all in all, I can't find no good positive
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 8: light at the end of it. But I can reiterate, Virginia...
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 8: Everybody talking about that bye week after Miami. His ass
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 8: ain't making it that far. We going to be 2-2.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 8: If we get blew out at home versus Virginia, you
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 8: know how bad them Bulls is going to be?
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: Terrible.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: It's going to be ugly, man. I can tell you
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: that for sure.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: Terrible.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 8: I told somebody on Twitter this earlier today. I don't
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 8: stay in Florida.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: I'm in South Carolina. I usually make it out to
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: a game once a year. In Tallahassee.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 8: And then if we play Clemson up here, I'm about
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 8: 20 minutes from Clemson.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: About 30 minutes. I'm from Greenville, South Carolina.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: You're from Greenville?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: I love Greenville.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: The area is beautiful right now.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: Say that again?
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Greenville is beautiful right now. I love that area.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, man.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: Growing. Top five.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 8: I think we're number two city in the United States
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 8: to move to destinations.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: Yep, yep, yep. Growing.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: But.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: It's like, and I got to hear, I mean, I
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: got to hear it from clubs.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 8: In fact, they can't really talk to me right now
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 8: because we both terrible, but usually I have to get into.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: It with them.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 8: But, and it's funny while I'm bringing them up, our
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 8: programs looked at that same terrible quarterback play, terrible line play,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 8: terrible coaching.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: We both looked at that same.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: No, I ain't going to say that, but them motherfuckers
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: look a lot worse than us, bro.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: Well, you think, I think LSU is just really good.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: They do, they do it bad.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: But, but from a, I guess they will. They can't
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: figure out a damn quarterback. Their running backs aren't that good.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: We got a really good running back side.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: They line terrible.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, their line is terrible. I don't think our line
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: is that damn bad, but it's close. We'll see how
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: the rest of the season progresses. Like Dabo said, it
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: is just one game, but that one game was pretty damning.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: I just don't see.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 8: Ashton Daniels has been playing football for a long time.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: And year five... He's a grown ass. I don't consider
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: him a kid.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 8: One, he's making $ 800, 000 reportedly.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: He ain't no kid to me.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 8: Your grown ass couldn't throw for more than 65 yards
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 8: in a game.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: SMU not world beaters. If you know football, which I
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: know you do.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 8: Anybody that know football, if you look at SMU defense,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 8: they're not good.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: They weren't at all.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: They wasn't good. And they wasn't... Willie... Willie... One of
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: Willie's teams might could have beat them at SMU last night.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: And Cyrus and I think James Button would.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 8: I did think he was the worst quarterback in FSU history,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 8: but now DJU and.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: Ashton Daniels hold my beer. But I take James Button
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: over there with Ashton Daniels today. At least he's going
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: to throw the damn ball. And Deuce... He need to
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: file a damn lawsuit. Y'all had me come back. I'm
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: losing money. Yeah. He need to file.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 8: Listen, what it was. And speaking of that, I know
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 8: your dad's alone now.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: I got a son.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 8: He but not Florida State. My favorite school. I've been
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 8: a Florida State fan. When kids was watching cartoons on
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 8: Saturday mornings, I'll get ready to watch Florida State football.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: I'm 38.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: I go all the way back to what, 93. Ward
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: Dunn is my first football player.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: I go back.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: And I can say if my son was a.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 8: Top recruit, I would not let him play for Coach Norville.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: I'd say, son, you can't go there. You ain't going
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: to get the bill. Hell, we got a.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 8: Kid from Greenville on the team, Franklin Whitley, defensive end.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 8: He's fucking a freshman.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: He's 6'7.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 8: What a wit. He's about 6'7, 250, and he don't
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 8: even play.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: I'm like, shit, y'all at least try him out. He's
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: a fucking monster. We stole him from Georgia.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 8: He's a little rough around there, but it's like y'all
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 8: got to try something new.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: We gave the Dezeers all that money. Bro, you got
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: a 4% pressure rate I saw today? Mandrill Dezeer? A
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: 4% pressure rate? I can do that. Four percent?
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 8: Like, we probably in the main, don't go as millionaires
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 8: for nothing.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: We got scammed.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: Mike scammed us. Start from the top. Mike scammed us.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: Then the players scammed us. Kevin Wynn, you held us.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: I went to my rant last week.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: I got to go back again.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: Kevin Wynn held us hostage, not even on the field. Desirous,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: it might as well not be on the field. He
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: ain't doing nothing.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 8: Everybody, Jabril Rawls, he played a little better when the
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 8: whole DBs got cooked.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: But I can't even blame the DBs.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 8: When you're lined up 15 yards off the ball on
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 8: third and one, third and short, you're not going to
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 8: be successful.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: I think that on Tony White. I'm not even blaming them.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 8: But at the same time, as a player, I know
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 8: you ain't supposed to undermine your coach, but somebody in
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 8: the room has to say, Coach, why can't you.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: Play more man-to-man? And you can bring the blitz. Why
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: are you blitzing? You got DBs 15 yards off the ball.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: This is the thing that get me, CJ.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 8: Some of this shit come and sit. Like, my mama,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 8: I've been watching football so long, my mama's.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: A Florida State fan. I got her into football. My
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: mama just turned 69 Saturday. She can watch the game
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: and ask me, why are they doing that? That don't
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: look right.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 8: If a 69-year-old woman that hardly knows football can look
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 8: at our defense and see that don't make sense and
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 8: these guys are making a.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: Million dollars to coach this up, that's beyond fire, bro.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: Tony White should.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 8: Listen, somebody else has called the defense before in that
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 8: locker room. Get somebody. Tony White should not have a
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 8: job today. Mike called the Terrible game, yes. But that
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 8: Tony White game plan, we gave them 600 yards of offense, bro.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 8: And they're not that good.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: They are not that good. I want their offense.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 8: Kevin Jennings is good. But the rest of the team,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 8: they average. They going to take some L's. They might lose.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: They might win about six or seven, maybe eight games.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: But they ain't world beaters. And with the schedule we
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: got coming up, like Tanya had said, it's over, man.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: After Central Arkansas.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 8: You might not win another game unless it's BC or
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 8: NC State. But I personally just feel like, and I
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 8: want your opinion. Do you think after, let's say we
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 8: get blowed out by Belmont, which is probably going to happen,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 8: and we get rolled at home versus Virginia, do you
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 8: think that's the last game?
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: Possibly could be. Bama could be the guy at last game.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I wouldn't be surprised at nothing.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised at an announcement tomorrow. I wouldn't
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: be surprised at nothing after Miami, end of the season.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised after I end this goddamn live
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: and they say I wouldn't be surprised at none of that.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: So I could see it happening with a bad loss
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: to Bama. I could definitely see it happening, blowout loss,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: especially a home game to Virginia. I do know home game,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: certain boosters coming to town on Sunday mornings.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: They have meetings to talk about certain things.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: After the home game. So, yeah, I could see something
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: like that with a terrible Virginia. If Virginia Allen had
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: that meeting that morning, then, you know, they'd make a
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: decision and go from there.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: So, to answer your question, but I wouldn't be surprised
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: at anything.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 8: Was the vibe in the stadium like, I don't know
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 8: if he was around big money people, but was the
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 8: vibe in the stadium like, are you ready to get
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 8: him out of here?
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't around the money folks within the stadium,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: but I mean, if Just the vibe in the stadium,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty sure they're feeling the same way
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: as the same motherfuckers that were saying, you know, in
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: the stands, that type of deal.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: Same feelings.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: Just bigger wallets, if that makes sense.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah, because, see, I was at the game Willie got fired,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 8: that last Miami game, and I remember leaving the stadium saying, oh,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 8: this is his last game, because I was, I had
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 8: 50-yard line seats.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: And the runner was definitely wall for that, and we
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: kind of saw that coming for sure.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: Man, for that game, because they was cheap tickets. I
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 8: got 50-yard line seats. I was second row right behind
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 8: the bench. And the vibes back there, I knew he
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 8: was about to be fired.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: They was furious.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 8: The money people that came down from the damn boxes
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 8: and was down there yelling, I said, yeah, they about
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 8: to get him gone.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: This is the last game.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: They was furious.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 8: I don't know if it's down to that point, but
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 8: it really should be past that point. I thought Willie
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 8: was back, but All I can say is Norvell looks
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 8: like Coach Kline. He used to be a decent coach,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 8: but he literally looks like he forgot how to coach.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: He's like Coach Kline on Waterboy. That's exactly what we got.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 8: I don't know what this snub did to his mental,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 8: his wife cheating. We need to get some co-eds. Go
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 8: down sorority road. We need a scandal or something. We
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 8: need some kind of.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: Boy, listen. Mike Norvell, whoever listened to this podcast.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 8: Somebody got some dirt on Mike Norvell.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: Somebody. Somebody.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 8: We got to have a cause for something. We got
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 8: to be something. That man ain't that squeaky clean. Because
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 8: it got to be something. We got to get him
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 8: up out of here. And I was listening to Jeff
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 8: Cameron earlier today. And he was like, at some point,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 8: my agent going to have to step in and say,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 8: you know, You're ruining your coaching career.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: Maybe we should just negotiate a buyout.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: For what?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Why would his agent tell him that when he's getting
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: the kickback of that contract? Man, Mike getting paid $ 10 million.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: Ain't no agent in here that will tell you this
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: and a third.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 8: I was thinking that too, bro. I was thinking that too.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 8: But this thing got so bad, if he ever wants
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 8: to coach again.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: He looks worse.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: That's cool, but you got 50 or 60 in the bank, too,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: as well. So, I get that, but at the same
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: damn time, man, like, as an agent.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can live off 50 or 60. Really, I
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: ain't got a coaching hand.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: With this contract I just constructed, I ain't tell you
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: to do nothing but let it ride out and let
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: them motherfuckers pull the trigger and pay you and me
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: that money.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 8: But don't he just look so miserable like he.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: Like he's waiting for it to be over.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he look like he.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 8: He's trying to hang on, but his facial expressions is
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 8: just like, Lord, I can't wait for this to be over.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: I hate coming out here and taking these questions.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Body language, bro.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: And again, I think all of us started after that
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: 23 snub, everything changed. You see the 2 and 10,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: 5 and 7. Everything is weighing on. I mean, he
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: feel the pressure of the world right now. But, Ron,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: we got to wrap things up pretty quick. Give me
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: your last take before we get moving.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 8: That's all, bro. I appreciate the show. I like listening
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 8: to you. Give you props and everything. Say what I
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 8: had to say. But everybody stay strong. We're going to
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 8: make it through. But watch for next week because if
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 8: we get blowed out by Belmont, that Virginia game, I
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 8: really feel like that's when we're going to get our
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 8: good news.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, two weeks.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: We got a bye week after this one. So we
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: got to wait for two weeks to see which probably
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: is a good damn thing. Two weeks until we see
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: some more FSU football.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: Hold up.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 8: We got a bye week before Central Arkansas?
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: Nah, we got to buy it before Bama.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, that's right. This weekend. Yeah, you're right.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: That's all I.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 8: Wanted to say, bro. I think Virginia's the day. I
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 8: don't see us beating them. Tony Elliott is just too
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 8: good of a coach. And he's going to out-scheme Mike.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 8: I just don't see him losing to Mike Norvell. Not
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 8: this Mike Norvell. Mike Norvell could have beat him maybe
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 8: three or four years ago.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: Could have beat him last year, to be honest, which
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: would mean a spot on 14 points. That's a different
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: damn conversation. Appreciate you both for sure, man. We'll definitely
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: tap back in around that time, and we'll see. Like
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: I said, I wouldn't be surprised if it happened after Bama, Virginia,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: or any game after that.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: But we'll be on alert to see how them boys respond,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: and we'll go from there. Respond, right?
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: No Mike Norvell term. We'll see. Appreciate you for coming, Ronnie.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: Most definitely.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: All right, that was Ronald, man.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: Good stuff.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll probably wrap it up real quick. Make
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: sure you guys take that. We have over 700 folks
• 1:15:00
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• 1:15:02
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• 1:15:03
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• 1:15:05
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• 1:15:07
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• 1:15:09
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• 1:15:12
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