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#21: The CMD Foundation | Professor Sports Cards · Collectors MD Features

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What's going on, Alyx? Hey, what's going on?
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Good to be back. Oh, you got a good mic. I got
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to talk to you about what your mic is. Hey, congrats
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on a Knicks champion. You're a lifelong Knicks
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fan. How'd it feel, bro? Because I'm not a Knicks
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fan. I'm a huge NBA fan. It felt great, man.
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Something about the culture. It just felt really
0:25
good. And Jalen Brunson balled out. It felt surreal,
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man. I mean, we haven't had a championship in
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the tri -state area, not including the WNBA,
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right, because Liberty won a couple years ago.
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But we haven't had a championship since the Super
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Bowl, you know, when I was in college, when the
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Giants beat the Patriots for the second time.
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And so with all the disappointment from the Yankees
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and even from Mets fans and the Giants and Jets
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have been abysmal for the last five plus years,
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especially the Jets, it's sweet. It's sweet.
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And it's one of those things where the world
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hates New York, but New York loves, loves being
1:01
the villain, loves just being back. And it's
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so sweet. And like, who better to lead the charge
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than Jalen Brunson? I mean, he's like the most
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likable superstar in all of sports. And that's,
1:13
you know, obviously a jaded opinion, but. What's
1:15
not to like about the guy? Come on. We have Jalen
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Brunson is unreal. I mean, one me over and probably
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a lot of people. We have another New York fan
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down below in a slot. We have Richie Rich in
1:27
Japan in a bed. And Alyx, I know you didn't see
1:30
this coming. We'll get to what, you know, we'll
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get to your subject. It's all good. I have time.
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Okay, all right. So let's throw Dan. I'm not
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derailing Alyx. I just want to say lifelong Knicks
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fan. So Alyx just wanted to say, dude, it was
1:40
surreal. I'll let you get back to it, man. But
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yeah, this is like I've been bathing in champagne
1:45
all week. This is it doesn't feel real. Oh, I
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didn't realize that was Dan. What's up, Dan?
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What's up, Alyx? Yeah, sorry. Like I said, man,
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I wasn't trying to derail you. I want to hear
1:53
you talk as well. But no, man, had to hop in
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real quick. Dan's the homie. I have three Knicks
1:58
fans here. Every time De 'Aaron Fox shot in the
2:01
fourth quarter of Game 5, I was all for it. I'm
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sure you guys, as Knicks fans, I was like, yep,
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keep shooting, Fox. Keep shooting. I'm not a
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Knicks fan. I want to piggyback on your point.
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My godson and me, he's a diehard Knicks fan.
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He was watching Frank Ntilikina at JMU when they
2:16
were terrible. We were saying that if De 'Aaron
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Fox took the shots, they were going to win the
2:21
series. Don't have Stephon Castle and Dylan Harper
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run the pick and roll or take the shots. We were
2:27
confident. And look at what happened. It was
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insane. Yeah, man. It's speculation. And Rich,
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to your point earlier about Harper versus Knueppel,
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who's the better buy? It all ties back to speculation.
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And, you know, at the end of the day, we're never
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going to know what the outcome is going to be.
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Nobody knew that Wemby was going to ricochet
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the ball off of Castle's back in, what was that,
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game two? right like that's why it's so important
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to We'll get into this. The other thing that
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I want to say on it, because I had that thought,
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I'm glad you brought it back up, was Frank just
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called it and said it's VJ Edgecombe, a great
2:59
player. Cooper Flagg is a great player. Luka
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hasn't won. There's so many great players, but
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you have to be able to sell it to the mass. This
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is the hysteria. This is the push. Dylan Harper
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is always going to get overshadowed by Wemby
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when the Spurs do well. Will he get a little
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climb? Sure. And this new draft class, there's
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always going to be... draft class is insane somebody's
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gonna be insane and the hype around it's gonna
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be at a new level i just want to know because
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i got text messages from it like it's not personal
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you know and if you bought low that's great i
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just think that the better buy was dylan harper
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that's that's it you know and i and i saw it
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happen at a card show because my brother did
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it and he still got more cases real quick i just
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want to jump in real quick on that point rich
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you know it's so situational too like dylan harper
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was drafted by the spurs What if Dylan Harper
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was drafted by the Wizards? What if he was drafted
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by the Cats? Don't get me wrong. I'm 10 minutes
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from Rutgers. I'm a huge Dylan Harper guy. I
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love his game. I love what he stands for. I think
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he's going to be a superstar regardless. But
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you put any of these superstars on the Spurs,
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Flagg, Knueppel, VJ. You're 100 % right, Alyx.
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Yeah, I agree. That's a great point. Go ahead,
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defend yourself, Blue Red, or what do you want
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to say? My plan was I was going to sell it during
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the season, and I didn't expect Beckett to take
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so long, and that wasn't my fault. So I tried
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selling them during the season. Yeah, just so
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I can back you up. You told me you bought these
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rainbows. Go ahead. I literally got it back.
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As soon as they lost the series, and what I should
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have done is I should have went to a casino and
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made a bet because I knew that Kon Knueppel
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was going to break the rookie three -point record.
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Literally right before the season. He told me
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he bought the Rainbows in October and November.
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I'm sorry to keep interrupting you. I just want
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to explain the story. He sent them in in November,
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December, and didn't get them back until playoff
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time after he already lost rookie of the year.
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That's terrible. That's a bad job on Beckett.
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Yeah, yeah. Sorry, Blue Red. I just wanted to
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make sure to explain that because, yeah, I mean,
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that's screwy. Hey, Blue Red. Hey, Blue Red.
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I got something for Blue Red real quick. con
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can nipples the goods he's he's in low you're
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good we talked about this last last time on the
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show i believe that the hornets are going to
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have a better performance this year upcoming
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than last year so what's up good blue red you
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said something before that really hit home for
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me you were talking about the Ozzie Albies card
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and you were talking about how you bought that
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card because you thought it looked cool you bought
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it because you liked it right it wasn't about
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the value That's what it's all about, man. That's
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what we're trying to encourage, especially young
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collectors. Like, don't worry about your bad
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buys or like, you know, missing the boat on certain
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rookies. Like, dude, I don't know how old you
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are. 21. Collect your young guy. Collect what
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you like. Collect what makes you happy, man.
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Don't worry about like the ROI and the profit.
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And I don't want to sound preachy saying this,
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but like, that's what the hobby is all about,
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man. Go buy that Ozzie Albies. Like, go buy the
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$5 Knueppel card because you like it. Don't
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worry about how much you're going to sell it
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for in a month. Yeah, because my plan is I'm
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probably going to trade those Kon Knueppels for
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like a Tyler Shough rookie card because I'm looking
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at what the Saints are going to do. And I think
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it's a better buy. Football is a better purchase,
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in my opinion. But he's still thinking along
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the lines of growth. And, you know, that's that's
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what a lot of them. All right. That's fine. Yeah,
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that's what it is. That's the living. That's
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the dream. That's the dream. That's right. Responsibly,
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fellas. All right, Blue Red, we love you. Alyx
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can't help but smirk at it too. Maybe so, maybe
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not. So Alyx, you hit me up the other day and
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I think you're excited about something. I don't
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know much about it. We're a skeptical bunch here,
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but I let you know, my stepdad passed away when
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I was 21 from overdosing. He overdosed on meth.
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And so I know addiction. And my brother had tens
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and tens of thousands of dollars in sports gambling
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that now is gone. And I respect him a lot for
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overcoming it after a decade long of a fight.
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with it. So, you know, I understand addiction.
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I respect you for that. And so explain what you
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have going here. What changed or what's different
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about this than what it used to be? Yeah. Yeah.
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I appreciate it, Jason. I want to take a moment
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just to address Charles. Can I do that real quick?
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Yeah. Before I say anything, I just want to give
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a shout out to a few. Dan already came on. Petty.
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Petty said, smile more. That was something he
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said last time I was on. Like, dude, you got
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to smile more. So. I'm just trying to be more
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uplifting, positive. That's what we are, and
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I want to showcase that. Ziggy as well. Ziggy
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and I have had our differences in the past, but
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he's come around and been really supportive.
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I know not everybody here necessarily gets along,
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and people will go back and forth and banter.
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I want to say something about Charles. Look,
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I know he can be polarizing in this live. People
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are entitled to their opinions. One thing we've
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always tried to do at Collectors MD is operate
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kind of as Switzerland, right? We try our absolute
7:50
best not to get involved in the hobby politics
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and the gossip and taking sides. We're all about
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just meeting people where they are and appreciating
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anyone who genuinely wants to help and make the
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hobby a healthier place. And so with that said,
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I can tell you this about Charles. Behind closed
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doors, Charles has done an incredible amount
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in our community, completely out of the goodness
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of his heart. And I'm not just saying this to
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blow smoke. He didn't tell me to say any of this.
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I haven't even spoken to him tonight. He volunteers
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his time to help facilitate a peer support meeting
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once a month, something he doesn't have to do,
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but he does. He has contributed to our daily
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reflections. He's helped me with social media.
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He's been hosting one of our podcasts. And he's
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been there for countless conversations behind
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the scenes and helping people that are really,
8:35
really struggling with addiction. And none of
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that is paid. None of it comes with any sort
8:39
of expectation or recognition. He simply believes
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in the mission and the work we're doing and genuinely
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wants to help people. And so I think that actually
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speaks volumes about people's opinions and perceptions
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of others in the hobby, right? Everybody kind
8:53
of judges a book by its cover. They see you at
8:55
face value. They see you in a live chat. They
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see you on social media. They see you in a highlight
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reel. We've had the privilege of seeing another
9:02
side of Charles over the last year, and he's
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genuinely become an incredibly valuable member
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of our community. So whether someone agrees with
9:09
him or not, has an opinion, the support and care
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he's shown our members, and I've seen firsthand
9:15
behind the scene, has been very real, and we're
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incredibly grateful for it. I appreciate that.
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And I've always welcomed Charles on, even with
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some rough moments with Chad. Charles is always
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out of place here. And then it got a little weird
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in the past month, but fine. But what gets me
9:31
here is now there's a troll post against me and
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he's liking it. And, you know, so that's up to
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Charles to do that. But that stings a bit. You
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know, I hear you. I don't know anything about
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that. Like I said, like we try to make sure to
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like everything that's, you know, anti me. And
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so, you know, it stings a little. We have built
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a human relationship here and he's been a firecracker
9:53
here, which community hates and loves at the
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same time, you know. All of these accusations
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and the comments in the chat, like, I don't know
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any about this stuff. All I see is what I see
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him doing behind closed doors and helping people.
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And so I believe that, you know, I'd be remiss
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not to say that. And I'm glad we had the discussion
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because again, it's kind of an elephant in the
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room and I think you did a good job helping out
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or speaking from Charles side. So the collector
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MD launches a CMD Foundation nonprofit. So go
10:20
ahead, give us a rundown of what's different
10:22
from what it was to this or both still exist
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or. Yeah. So it's funny, Jason, because when
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I first came on your show last November, I think
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it was Thanksgiving Eve. One of the biggest questions
10:33
people had, and there was a lot of pushback and
10:36
people questioning my motives and things of that
10:38
nature. The question was, why isn't Collectors MD
10:42
a nonprofit? And at the time, the honest answer
10:45
was that we were still just trying to figure
10:47
things out. Right. We had already built a meaningful
10:49
community and knew that there were issues that
10:51
were deeply resonating with people. But we didn't
10:52
want to rush into creating a nonprofit simply
10:55
because it sounded good on paper, just like for
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the sake of it. Right. We wanted to better understand
11:00
where the needs existed, what gaps needed to
11:02
be filled and how we could build something thoughtful
11:04
and sustainable. And so over the last six months,
11:07
we've really helped hundreds of individuals through
11:09
our peer support meetings, our online communities,
11:12
our educational resources, our referral network
11:14
partnerships across both the hobby and. recovery
11:17
spaces. And we've started to receive national
11:20
media attention from outlets like the Wall Street
11:22
Journal article coming out in a couple of weeks.
11:24
GQ article coming out in a couple of weeks. The
11:27
New York Times mentioned us a couple of weeks
11:29
ago. Barron's is an article that they're working
11:30
on. And I'm not saying all of that to like, you
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know. boast or to, it's just the fact it showcases
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that this is a real problem and it is starting
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to garner national media attention. And honestly,
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the conversation has just gotten much bigger
11:44
than us. I want to, I'm going to preface it this
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way. I have an asshole question to ask. It's
11:49
not a personal attack at all. It's just something
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that pops in my head. I was, I went to watch
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the UFC fights out at a, you know, with friend
11:57
and we were talking, we're talking about, you
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know, how a lot of these corporations, bigger
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ones, And I forget the exact word to use, but
12:04
it's almost like a social credit. So Philip Morris,
12:08
who makes cigarettes, will also have, you know,
12:11
they'll still have a hand or own the company
12:14
that is trying to give you help on cigarettes.
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And so I think we're the distinction that anyone
12:20
that has that type of thought in their head.
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You know, I've known you now for a while. We've
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talked and everyone you've seen who you help
12:27
and, you know, some of those people I've talked
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with. So it seems to come off from a genuine
12:31
place. But corporate America has this thing where
12:34
they want to sell you a vice, but then also to
12:37
look good or make sure they have their self covered.
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They want to show how noble they are by offering
12:43
a solution as well. And so. I guess, you know,
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I don't think this sparked from that. I don't
12:49
think that's the connection here, but I think
12:51
it's worth throwing out to, you know, hear from
12:53
you that no, that's what's not going on or, you
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know, and obviously I'm putting you in a weird
12:56
spot. It's in a bit of an asshole question, but
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that's just what comes in my head a little bit.
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Yeah. Yeah. I appreciate you asking that. Fanatics,
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Whatnot, Collectors, Arena Club, eBay, the list
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goes on. None of them have taken my calls. There's
13:10
been a few responses here and there. I've had
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a few preliminary conversations with some folks
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at Whatnot. They don't want us to be associated
13:19
with their business because at the end of the
13:22
day, it forces them to acknowledge the elephant
13:24
in the room, which is the G word that they all
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refuse to use. Without oversharing, I could tell
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you that as part of some of that media coverage
13:31
that I just mentioned, they've also been in contact
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with Whatnot. They've also been in contact with
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Fanatics. And when Collectors MD is brought up,
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it's like, we have no idea what they're about,
13:42
what they're doing. We don't work with any. We're
13:44
not working with the platforms. Now, if or when
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the opportunity presents itself where we can
13:48
put a disclaimer across the Whatnot app so that
13:50
people are aware of the risk and the harm that's
13:53
involved, we're all for that. But to date, we've
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received no attention, no payments, nothing like
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that. And we already talked about this whole
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corporate plant conspiracy and paid actor bullshit.
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Like, dude, at the end of the day, this is coming
14:07
from my heart. It's coming from my own lived
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experience as a recovering gambling addict to
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somebody who's been in recovery now for three
14:13
plus years. I would go to GA rooms. I would feel
14:16
like I wasn't resonating with people because
14:18
they had no idea what I was talking about when
14:20
I brought up the breaks and the cards and the
14:22
gambling adjacent behaviors. that are going on.
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I said to myself, there has to be a space for
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this. I was shocked that there wasn't. And so
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I created it myself. And so let's go back to
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the nonprofit. Oh, yeah. And that was perfect.
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That's actually the question I wanted to ask.
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So why nonprofit or what? Yeah. What's the difference
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here? Yeah. Why are you excited? What we've seen
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in the last six months. to a year is that there's
14:45
no infrastructure supporting people and families
14:46
impacted by compulsive collecting, gambling -like
14:49
behaviors, financial harm in these spaces. And
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that's really why we're excited about The CMD
14:54
Foundation. So this isn't about becoming a charity
14:57
overnight or abandoning what Collectors MD already
15:00
is. It's the next step for us. It's the next
15:02
evolution of the mission. And so Collectors MD
15:05
LLC will continue focusing on the content, education,
15:08
partnerships, community building, and the nonprofit
15:10
gives us the ability to fund and expand things
15:14
like the peer support programming, the educational
15:17
initiatives, the outreach efforts, the scholarship
15:20
programs for people who otherwise may not have
15:22
access to real help. And so in a lot of ways,
15:25
it feels like we've gone from simply raising
15:27
awareness and saying, hey, this problem exists,
15:30
to now being able to say, okay, how do we actually
15:33
build lasting resources and support systems around
15:35
it? And honestly, that's incredibly exciting
15:38
because it feels like we're moving from a movement
15:40
to building something that can have a real lasting
15:42
impact in terms of helping people. I know we've
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talked about this before, but it's always the
15:47
most interesting question I have on my mind is
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in your meetings or the people that need help,
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what do you see? opening wax is it getting addicted
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to buying too many singles is it breaks what
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do you see as one of the bigger issues as the
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trend yeah i'm glad you asked that because a
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lot of people just assume that it must be the
16:06
breaks but it's not just the breaks yeah of course
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the breaks play a huge part of it and the frictionless
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environments where these breaks are hosted like
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Whatnot Fanatics all these live streaming platforms
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They all play a huge part in it because of the
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layered in bells and whistles and the flashing
16:20
lights and the spinning wheels and the breaker
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operating as the dealer and the host and the
16:24
entertainer. you know it's it's a show it's entertainment
16:27
right and so people get hooked really fast that
16:30
way but then people come into our environment
16:32
and they say things like well you know i still
16:34
want to engage in the hobby but do so more intentionally
16:37
which we fully support and we meet people wherever
16:39
they are in their journeys and so some people
16:42
end up transitioning over to only buying singles
16:45
on eBay or only ripping personals or only ripping
16:48
retail right and they find themselves in very
16:51
similar situations where it's just higher volume
16:55
Right. It's higher volume boxes because they
16:56
cost less or it's higher volume singles because
16:58
they're not buying the expensive hobby boxes
17:00
and they're still having a hard time controlling
17:03
the behavior. And it's across the board. i want
17:06
to piggyback on that one because you learn really
17:09
early as a sports card person the best thing
17:11
for your collection is to stay away from ripping
17:13
anything or breaking and you know you're gonna
17:15
do best if you walk into the car shop with 200
17:17
and buy the 200 Curry rookie that's sitting
17:20
there over some 200 box okay you're probably
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most likely gonna be a far more happy at end
17:24
result yeah the problem i just run into is it's
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so like i'm doing this receiver thing these receiver
17:30
collection i'm missing a few so i go to buy one
17:32
and it's like oh there's another one that's reasonably
17:34
priced let me buy that one oh there's another
17:35
one i can't miss out on it's not i'm not spending
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hundreds of dollars or thousands of dollars but
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but it adds up yes it's so addicting to and once
17:43
you complete a set or rainbow it's like on to
17:46
the next right there's always going to be a new
17:47
product the problem with modern collecting is
17:49
that the abundance of what's out there what's
17:52
available to you is endless it never stops Topps
17:56
and Panini and all these manufacturers design
17:59
the cards that way so that they keep us coming
18:02
back they keep feeding us something new they
18:04
keep feeding us something fresh. When in reality,
18:06
it's just more or less recycled content, the
18:09
same thing over and over again. So we have to
18:13
be mindful. We have to be careful. We have to
18:14
hold ourselves accountable. That's what it comes
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down to. And one of my thought process, like,
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you know, I bought that Keenan McArdle RPA for
18:20
35 bucks. And so all this stuff that people are
18:22
excited about now and all these newer people
18:25
in a decade or so, a lot of this stuff's not
18:27
going to hold the same value that they think,
18:29
even if it's a cool design, it's just, there's
18:31
so much of it. And there's so many different
18:33
players. And that's something that I get a little,
18:35
you know, everything's skyrocketing right now.
18:37
So I look like an idiot saying it, but I really
18:39
think in time, I'm going to be right. Cause there's
18:41
just so much of it. And then go buy an $80 LaDainian
18:44
Tomlinson auto rookie that. There's not a lot
18:47
of. You're a collector through and through, obviously.
18:50
I mean, you can see behind you just from the
18:51
little bit of - And mainly it's sports cards.
18:53
This is more for fun and look, but mainly it's
18:55
all sports cards. But when you think about collecting
18:58
and why you purchase something or why you have
19:00
that Luka Doncic jersey - Big collar called in.
19:03
Controversial collar. We'll put them on in a
19:04
minute. When you look at the items you own behind
19:08
the Kobe jersey, the Luka jersey, the figurines,
19:11
did you purchase those with the intent that they're
19:13
going to go up in value and that one day you're
19:15
going to flip them? Or did you purchase them
19:17
because they mean something to you? They have
19:19
a sentimental value. I've had that Joe Galloway
19:21
rookie since I'm eight years old. So if we can
19:23
get back to that mindset, collectively, as a
19:26
hobby, where we're buying things, not because
19:29
a Continental card is going to quadruple. But
19:30
it's the propaganda. The propaganda out there
19:33
is immense. Right, right. Which is what we're
19:35
trying to, in a lot of ways. not combat, but
19:38
we're going against the grain, right? Because
19:40
when you open up Instagram and all you see are
19:42
these breakers and influencers talking about
19:45
what to buy next, why you should buy Wemby. I
19:47
mean, I'm not going to say anybody's name or
19:49
call out a break group or anything like that.
19:50
But I saw a reel today from a very, very well
19:53
-known breaker, basically justifying why the
19:56
Wemby market is dipped. He basically said that
19:58
there are two different versions of the Wemby
20:00
market, a high -end market and a low -end market.
20:03
If you saw the video, you know what I'm talking
20:04
about. It's like, what are we talking about here?
20:07
Why are we continuing to encourage people to
20:10
invest in players that just lost the NBA championship,
20:13
that have become the villain overnight? Why can't
20:17
we just encourage people to collect what they
20:18
love? Why can't we just encourage people to follow
20:20
their favorite team, follow their favorite player,
20:22
build a rainbow of Joey Galloway or whoever,
20:26
somebody that's affordable, somebody that means
20:28
something to you that isn't going to break the
20:30
bank and do it intentionally? When Blue Red came
20:33
on and said Fitzgerald and Lynch, their time
20:36
has come. People forgot their hype market, the
20:38
pump market for them is gone. You're getting
20:40
true value, in my opinion. When you go spend
20:43
200 bucks on a really cool Fitzgerald rookie,
20:45
that's more true value than what's in the hype
20:48
machine, what's in the chill machine. And so
20:51
Blue Red. I highly recommend go put a little
20:54
into Lynch. Don't just put all your thousand
20:56
into Lynch. You brought up some great, great
20:58
players. There's so many Hall of Famers that
21:01
most of the modern day players will never even
21:03
sniff, right? Like Jerry Rice, Larry Fitzgerald.
21:07
Even my guy Tim Brown has great 100 touchdowns.
21:10
No one cares. Hines Ward, Steve Smith. I mean,
21:13
you go down the list of just great receivers
21:15
from the last 20 plus years that have all the
21:17
accolades, have the records. They're not relevant
21:19
anymore because they're not playing today. In
21:22
20 years from now, nobody is going to care about
21:24
Travis Hunter. Nobody is going to be talking
21:27
about Bucky Irving, right? Like, yeah, they're
21:29
great players today and no knock on them. And,
21:31
you know, I respect the heck out of there. What's
21:33
happening is they're just a sales job, but there's
21:36
a hope. There's a, we want, we can get them on
21:37
the way up and then flip it for another thing.
21:39
And then it's what's really been trained in everybody
21:42
the last five, six years, which is why I said
21:44
before with this new class, that's going to be
21:45
drafted next week to Bonsa, Peterson, Boozer,
21:49
Wilson next week. I think the draft's a week
21:52
from Thursday. But yeah, like Flagg, Knueppel,
21:55
VJ, Harper, these guys are going to be yesterday's
21:58
newsman. They are going to go above and beyond
22:01
when Dybantsa takes the stage. You remember the
22:04
hype during the pandemic with Zion? I think that
22:07
was probably like the peak of hype in terms of
22:10
what I've seen firsthand in the last five, six
22:12
years. I think the early Zion hype was bigger
22:14
than Wemby. I think it was bigger than Flagg.
22:16
I think it's going to be Zion all over again.
22:18
But I think he's actually going to be good. All
22:20
right, Charles. Alyx said some nice things. You
22:23
brought some of it. You know how you come in,
22:25
but how we doing, Charles? What's up, Charles?
22:28
Hey, you know, I just heard somebody talk about
22:30
cool cards, and this is from my old collection
22:32
when I was a kid. My dad sent this back through
22:35
my brother this weekend to me. Charles, but you're
22:37
here and it's like we want to, you know, there's
22:40
elephants in the room more than the cards, I
22:42
guess. And for me, it stings knowing like, yeah,
22:45
I'm going to like this against Professor. Here
22:47
we are in your back. And, you know, I think you
22:49
want to continue to come back. But if that's,
22:51
you know, dude, why? How come? So what is what's
22:55
the issue? Was it where I like that Instagram
22:56
post? On my side, it's like, yeah, bro, Charles
23:00
is going to come on and give him time. But also
23:01
everyone can see that he likes posts against
23:03
me, including myself. It's like, well, then I
23:05
don't want to keep having Charles on. It's not
23:08
against you. It's against the whole philosophy
23:10
of just nothing but negativity in the hobby.
23:12
But Charles, you spend four hours here a week,
23:14
normally three, maybe. It's not always negativity.
23:18
I mean, it's just not. Does that happen? Of course.
23:21
And is there a lot of BS? I get it. Well, and
23:23
also, but it's just not. Is it a part of the
23:25
show? Yes. Do I? I also bring up many other things
23:28
in four hours, just like my videos. Do I have
23:31
some videos that lean a certain way? Yes. But
23:33
I also have videos that don't do as well that
23:35
are based on cards, you know, because I love
23:37
cards. But it's just a bummer to see. Dave said
23:40
it. I mean, Dave sees it. Dave came to me out
23:42
of nowhere. So it's just the perception of, yeah,
23:45
man, we're going to welcome Charles back. But
23:47
Charles also has a big beef here. I don't have
23:49
any beef with you, Professor, at all. If I did,
23:51
I would address it. And you know that. SCV, on
23:53
the other hand, that's between you and him. I
23:56
don't like his content. I don't like anything
23:57
he stands for. Let me back. So let me back for
23:59
SCV real quick. Dude's 24 years old. He started
24:02
his channel at 17. He could have easily pivoted
24:05
to Whatnot. He could have easily pivoted to go
24:07
be a shillbilly or propaganda guy. And he's not,
24:11
you know, and does he lean a little controversial?
24:13
Sure. But he's a young dude that's grown up in
24:15
this. He's made a living off it. And he hasn't
24:18
taken the dirty bag. Whether you like what he
24:21
says or not, he's a young guy. that does it on
24:23
a day -to -day makes a living of it so he has
24:24
some insight and he didn't go the route of roth
24:28
cards or the route of jeff and hey i'm gonna
24:31
take the because dude his channel four years
24:33
ago was doing really well it was one of the better
24:35
channels like that was talking you know we had
24:37
a whiteboard you know this is what happened with
24:39
my psa order and yes he is controversial i mean
24:42
you're not talking about the guy with the cigar
24:45
Yeah, the guy who's sexist and deleted all of
24:47
his videos at least twice since he started his
24:49
channel. We don't talk about that. I mean, sexist
24:50
is heavy. Does he talk a little, you know? Yes,
24:53
he talks a little bit controversial. Look, at
24:56
the end of the day, everybody's entitled to their
24:59
opinion. Everybody should be on the same playing
25:01
field as far as having a platform and putting
25:03
out what you believe in, no matter how good your
25:06
message is, no matter how genuine it is or whether
25:08
it's coming from a good place. I mean, I'm reading
25:10
the comments. I see people saying that I have
25:11
an agenda, this, that, the other. Look. At the
25:13
end of the day, you're always going to have your
25:16
collection of naysayers, of haters, of people
25:19
that are just going to throw out shit to try
25:21
to shake you up. It's also, I get it too, but
25:24
it's also a weird, we're in a weird space. I
25:27
mean, we're just in a weird space and it's easy
25:29
to get tied into, oh, you're just always negative
25:31
or, oh, Alyx is, you know, just pushing his,
25:34
you know, agenda because so many people are doing
25:36
it out there. Some of you are pushing an agenda.
25:38
Jason, can you do me a favor? Can I send you
25:40
a link real quick to the nonprofit page? Because
25:42
there's one thing that I didn't mention, and
25:44
that's how the nonprofit was set up. I just dropped
25:47
it in the private chat. So this is important
25:49
because to those saying that we have an agenda
25:52
or we're doing whatever we want, it's a free
25:55
-for -all. That's not the case. And we were very
25:57
intentional about that. We partnered with a company,
26:00
a nonprofit organization called LOHAS, L -O -H
26:02
-A -S, to stand up the nonprofit. And if you
26:05
scroll down just a little bit, it says point
26:07
blank, in black and white, blue and white. LOHAS
26:09
provides third -party oversight to ensure that
26:11
all allocations from the nonprofit align with
26:13
the stated mission. So we literally have somebody
26:16
looking over our shoulder, holding us accountable,
26:19
making sure that these contributions and anything
26:21
that comes from the nonprofit are going towards
26:24
the right cause, are going towards the right
26:25
thing. So for those people saying, I have an
26:27
agenda, I have ulterior motives, legally, I have
26:30
to follow. i'm also going to throw some if you
26:33
did have an agenda at least he wants to help
26:35
i mean it seems like on the story oh at least
26:38
it's a better agenda than come break with me
26:41
or buy my ten thousand dollar card he wants to
26:43
you know at least provide awareness and and so
26:45
you know i'm at least yeah addiction is real
26:48
addiction i said this in november when i came
26:51
on the show and i had a few of the ogs that i
26:54
know have a lot of respect in this space They
26:57
were giving me a hard time, throwing me curveballs.
26:59
I said, I would take on those guys every single
27:02
night if it meant we were making a difference
27:04
for one person. And so we're helping hundreds
27:07
of people a week with these weekly meetings,
27:09
with our referral network, with these tools and
27:11
resources. So all of the bullshit that comes
27:13
with it on the side, I can't express how worth
27:17
it is for me. I love what KK said. KK said, if
27:20
you want to get rich, creating an anti -gambling,
27:22
not -for -profit is not the way. sure sure sure
27:25
gentlemen anything you want to wrap up with Charles
27:27
i'll let you go first and we'll let Alyx finish
27:29
well yeah i just wanted to say professor me and
27:31
you were fine it seems like me and you just seem
27:33
to have a bit of a miscommunication about how
27:35
you take things with me how i dude you like no
27:37
no Dave said it. It came from someone else. It's
27:41
not trust me. It's don't try to manipulate it
27:43
or sway it. It wasn't a miscommunication. You
27:45
started being a little anti the show or anti
27:48
us. I'm anti the chat. I'm not anti professor.
27:50
I'm anti KK. The chat is part of why I'm here.
27:54
That's fine, but I don't have to lock everyone
27:56
in this chat. I never said you did, but the posts
27:58
were not about the chat. Yeah, and I'm not trying
28:01
to be your co -host either. So I don't know where
28:02
you're getting. We've discussed this off fair.
28:05
Charles, what's up? Any last words? That's it.
28:08
All right, bro. Alyx, I want to say thanks for
28:11
coming on. Any last words? Congrats to your Knicks.
28:13
Yeah, thank you. And congrats to your new foundation.
28:16
I had one show and tell. I almost forgot about
28:19
the Knicks. You know, I'm a big sneaker guy.
28:20
You know, talking about collecting intentionally,
28:22
this is a pair of New Balances. This was a collaboration
28:25
they did with Kith a couple years ago. Cool little
28:28
detail here that a lot of people probably would
28:31
never even notice. Madison Square Garden Knicks
28:33
on the insole. This is what it's all about, man.
28:37
Buy what you like. Buy what makes you happy.
28:39
I'm glad you mentioned. So recently, I don't
28:41
buy a lot of shoes, but John Morant had a really
28:43
cool collaboration with Jurassic Park. It's like,
28:46
I'd rather put my $100 in that pair of shoes,
28:48
which I did, than a card. Cards, it's so interesting
28:50
because there are other places to put your money
28:52
just besides cards. Yeah, 100%. Oh, and Ziggy
28:56
said, can you comment on CTCA? I should put you
28:58
in touch with Nick Jarman. He's the CEO and founder
29:01
of CTCA. They're another organization that's
29:03
really doing a lot of amazing things in the space.
29:05
And they're creating like a... almost like a
29:07
badge for breakers and hobby shops to give them
29:10
a level of credibility. I don't want to butcher
29:13
it and try to explain somebody else's mission
29:16
or movement, but they have partnered with us.
29:18
We're doing some things together. We developed
29:19
the Healthy Hobby Initiative, which is a new
29:22
project that we're going to be rolling out in
29:23
the coming months. But I'll put you in touch
29:25
with Nick. He's a great dude. I think he'd be
29:27
great to join the show. He's been in touch with
29:28
Ziggy for the last couple of weeks, and Ziggy's
29:30
been really supportive of the work he's doing.
29:32
Hey, thank you for calling in so much. Yeah,
29:35
of course. I just want to also... Thank you so
29:37
much for having me on. I really appreciate the
29:38
opportunity, man. If anything we talked about
29:41
today resonated with anyone listening, of course,
29:43
you can always reach us. It's info @ collectorsmd
29:46
.com. You can also follow us on social @collectorsmd.
29:48
Check out our website, collectorsmd .com. Know
29:51
that we're here for any and everyone who might
29:53
be struggling with overspending, compulsive collecting,
29:55
hobby addiction, whatever you want to call it.
29:57
Even if it's just traditional gambling, we provide
29:59
weekly peer support meetings, tools, resources,
30:01
professional network. We're here for you. We're
30:03
here for everybody. We're all about positivity.
30:06
And yeah, man, we'll be in touch. Hey, congrats
30:08
to your Knicks. We'll talk soon, Alyx. All right,
30:10
brother.