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Graduation Day: Game of Thrones Season 8 Reaction & Sonic Delay · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  welcome to multiple nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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  Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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  Things nerdy so just before we started
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  recording tonight I was having a little bit of a discussion I will call it with
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  Hannah uhhuh I'm saying your name does not change depending on the
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  language this old thing yeah sure my
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  name is Luke MH that's just my name yeah when people say your name in another
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  language is blah no it isn't no it's not right I don't think that's how names
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  work actually no it's not how it works your name is your name I agree with you
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  yeah I remember in uh in German class in year eight the teacher was writing out
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  names up on the board what's your name Daniel oh yeah in German your name Bruno
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  no but name stel no point is my name Bruno yeah that's in Italian apparently
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  my name is mato and I I'm like well no that's is that just the the Italian name
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  that sounds the closest to my name that's not how it
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  works no not your name is your name just because it's a different language
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  doesn't change what you're called yeah like if I imagine how offensive it would
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  be if someone came over my name's gun hello Frank yeah you wouldn't be the
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  first I'm sure we don't call people names in another language angu we speak
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  English here I must say Matt I was at LAX the other day and I actually heard a
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  customs officer screaming in the face of an immigrant trying to get through going
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  speak
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  English yeah wow laugh B yeah why were you in La just in case
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  we have to cut that part oh no I was shooting it's all good you're involved
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  in a shooting sorry you're not allowed to say that in America I was fil don't
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  say Amer were shooting film in L in La that's the dream isn't it yeah I guess
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  it was and I've ticked that box and I don't ever want to film in La again
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  because uh La is a dirty [ __ ] hole and the people there are [ __ ] rude and
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  it's not a good place to be or film so oh really yeah you can suck my dick La
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  yeah I don't like La much either it's it's a disgusting place well asking
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  someone to suck your dick is not really an insult is it depends you tell me it's
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  one of those things that's you know go can go either
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  way mhm like I don't like you so suck my
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  dick yeah that is odd yeah yeah yeah and now that you mention it hey Luke's
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  [ __ ] going at it today I know right
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  this is half asleep half drunk Luke that's what we normally get isn't
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  it which half is a sleep in which half is drunk he's half awake but that half
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  that's awake is very drunk is also drunk no I mean I mean have you have you only
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  just woken up and gotten a bit drunk or have you gotten drunk and therefore have
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  half fallen asleep okay so I got home from work about 8 7 or 8 a.m. this
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  morning I had a couple of drinks before I went to sleep and then I woke up and
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  then I had a few more drinks and then we're here okay that sounds good I went
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  up for some drinks last night too you know how I mean we we all like themed
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  bars right we've been to a few together and separately I will just I don't like
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  themed bars well yeah sure well how about this tell me if you guys uh would
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  go on to this last night I went to a bar themed after Joseph Conrad's modernist
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  novel Heart of Darkness yeah sort of I there a snap of
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  that I I thought it was a joke
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  specific yeah this is this is a bar of people that just love that [ __ ] 100y
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  old Nolla [ __ ] hell which I so I went along and they have something
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  like 20 original beers themed after different characters and plot points in
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  the novel what that's a weird [ __ ]
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  theme for a bar so I had a um insane C
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  insane CTS IPA that was quite good and uh I had a deep in the jungle pilsner
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  something like that so shout out to Hearts of Darkness see the last um theme
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  bar I went to two was in New York and it
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  was the Tim Burton one oh yeah that that
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  wasn't a theme bar what was it that was a little odd that
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  one it's just a bar that sort of tried to change name of a few drinks and
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  charged you extra money you ordered that disgusting giant Fishbowl drink Fishbowl
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  we had sweetie fish in it why you oh
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  that was a that that was like just sugar
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  and Tequila it was so
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  gross and I drank it all yeah Jesus and what Tim burton-esque name did this
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  Sugar Bowl have I don't oh I have no idea were you not with us I saw the
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  thing that was the biggest drink no no Dan had already left Dan wasn't with us
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  in New York ah huh well I was I was with you guys in New York last year did you
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  guys go back without me no no no this this was the year before was it [ __ ]
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  hell yeah because we went we went there for your wedding yes we didn't go to New
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  York with Dan for that it see after we went filming yeah cuz I was I was
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  literally in America for uh 72 hours on that trip which was twice as long as I
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  spent there last week so there how much filming could you get done in that
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  time film and then just leaving so my my plane touched down at 300 p.m. on Friday
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  afternoon it took me 2 and a half hours to clear Customs because Americans are
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  [ __ ] paranoid of everyone coming through that airport yep well mly from
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  the flights you arrive on as well whoa whoa whoa what are you implying Jee well
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  not I'm saying because you're a it's the way you're flight
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  diverts okay my flight came through Hong Kong so I don't know where you oh your
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  well I don't know your last flight was a bit screwed that I know of the when I
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  was flying katar ways through Doha and yeah and you weren't allowed to like
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  have like your laptop with you yeah oh sure yeah yeah that's a thing yeah and
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  so yeah so you know about 5:30 I arrived at my hotel had dinner uh went to bed uh
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  got up filmed and then later on that afternoon SL evening and went back to
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  the airport and flew home [ __ ] hell yes I was in the air longer than I was
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  on the ground uh 19 hours I think oh God
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  [ __ ] that all right yeah and you well flying to Europe in uh in August yes
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  that's right that's right we're all going to get together again this year
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  aren't we we are that up get excited listeners in gay par as it's known to
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  gays no they just call it Paris see I've actually I've stting to try reclaim gay
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  okay and I say I'm gay all the time because I'm quite happy okay so you're
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  taking back gay I'm taking it back I mean we probably just let the gays have
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  it I mean Matt don't take it back from Luke I'm going to tell everyone that
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  looks gay all right yeah I'm happy to share it yeah so you like you could be
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  gay for other people as well yes okay I have no problem with that yeah
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  okay I like to think I'm a pretty gay person most of the time yeah I think the
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  same no I agree yeah I agree yeah my parents asked me for a very long time
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  before I was gay so just accepting it now yeah I remember them asking your
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  boyfriend if he was gay as well H my boyfriend was gay but no was a
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  homosexual okay I'm not a homosexual though can we talk about this I don't
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  feel we can I yeah I'm not sure I'm not sure what to say that's why I've got a
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  bit quiet I feel like started okay if you guys are G quiet then we're really
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  [ __ ] yeah I just feel like you know it's there's not many things that it's
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  open season anymore and making fun of the gay people is just definitely not
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  one of them or has it have we gotten have we progressed so far with them and
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  you know we're all we're we're fine now they're fine like everybody just has
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  left them alone long enough that now you can make jokes about it again is that
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  thing that happens I don't know that that's how it works no I didn't think so
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  I mean does that mean like real equality is that we can start calling black
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  people the nword again no yeah because I'd be like I'm not bothered by that
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  because I know you respect me the nword never meant something good the gay word
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  was good the gay word gay word if you say the word you don't have to say word
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  after it look we've got some followup uh it'll be brief I thought
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  this was interesting we talked about how you know steam's had a lot of trouble
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  with review bombs where people get mad you know politically about something and
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  then uh and then start review bombing say a company's games to give them
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  negative reviews to punish them for something which I don't know don't
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  necessarily agree with that you know the reviews that's not what the reviews are
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  for uh in but in in this case and I
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  think we did talk about this uh nraam
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  famously caught fire recently and uh was
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  was alleged allegedly allegedly was very badly damaged and people started giving
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  Assassin's Creed Unity uh which has a in-game representation of nraam they
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  started giving it extremely positive reviews on the basis that nraam had been
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  yeah damaged and it was ridiculous cuz people were actually going on just
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  running like nraam and then that was their whole review five stars five stars
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  and so like and so the bad thing about this was is like Ste gone like we're
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  going to like once something gets off topic from the game we're going to
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  restrict that yeah but when it makes the money it's fine because not royalties
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  for this it's not helping to pay for the Reconstruction or anything as far as I'm
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  aware but vals now said that they're going to leave them because the the
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  influx of positive reviews was matched by an influx of new purchases and people
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  were actually playing the game so there yeah no well which is sort of terrible
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  because it's weird right it isn't it isn't because I mean I I don't like
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  Assassin's Creed but I considered playing that Odyssey one because I've
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  never been to ancient Greece nor will I and I wanted to know what that was like
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  so I guess a lot of tourists that had holidays it's very accurate to France
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  yeah to see notra Dam with its little wood wooden tower on the top were like
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  well I can't see it in real life now I'm going to have to buy and play through
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  Assassin's Creed Unity well here's the actual worst thing about it EA were
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  giving that game away for free at the time some people didn't even buy it they
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  just got well yeah no no I I do think that some people still go and buy it
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  because of the reviews and what was happening okay Luke hold on just so I'm
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  clear you're saying that EA burnt down
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  nraam cathedral in order to raise awareness for Assassin's Creed Unity is
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  that what you're saying I am not saying that he's implying allegedly burnt down
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  no the place burned down you seem very sure about that Luke
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  but it's sort of weird because it sort of goes back on what steam said like when
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  review off topic things they shut the reviews down and they did that recently
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  for I forget for Borderlands yeah that's right so it turns out that they only do
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  it if it's going to affect money they make yeah why we surprised about that at
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  all well we're not but a little bit though them out and they're [ __ ]
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  because they've always been the good guys Steam and i' steam have been Val
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  have been evil for a very long time I know but it it well it was a slow
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  progression though because they weren't they were everyone loved steam right
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  steam sales and everyone was like oh yeah I buy all my games on Steam now and
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  then just slowly over the years now it's kind of like yeah everyone's like H
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  steam well it's Val were sort of good they made great games and they had this
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  platform for us to buy stuff and then it became uh well we don't make games
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  anymore but unless we make these
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  games sell things and training cards and but for all that an alternative pops up
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  like the epic game store and everyone's like yeah we [ __ ] hate that too like
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  yeah which I know the the epic game s needs some work it does I've not but
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  I've never looked at it but well some of the things that came out sort of last
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  week is they had a sale their first sale big sale yes and someone went on and
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  purchased like five games and they got their account [Music]
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  locked well I mean that that makes sense
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  I guess uh well greedy five games yeah
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  epic well no it's it actually does make sort of sense go on um so epic don't actually
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  have like a shopping cart yet right so all they saw was like five quick
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  purchases of low amounts which can sort of lead towards a stolen credit card and
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  you trying to get as much as you can before it gets cancelled yeah but they
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  but they also have the [ __ ] context of we have a big game sale going on
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  people are going to be buying a lot of games what are the what are these purch
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  what are oh my God all these purchases coming in shut down the accounts well no
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  no the thing is like steam also has the same thing like there's been times where
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  I'll go and I'll unlock all my Humble Bundle keys and seam will go you've
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  unlocked a lot in the last like 10 minutes we're going to lock your account
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  for a bit and see what happens really I mean I used to work in retail you know I
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  used to work in a record store for for many years at no point did someone bring
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  up a a big pile of CDs and me going that's a lot of CDs I think you might be
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  robbing me right now but if they brought up if you had the one person no no
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  honestly if you had the one person in front of you to go and go uh can I buy
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  this one and then the card works and go yep now I'll try this one and now I'll
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  try this one and just trying one after the other just cuz they don't know but
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  just to be clear there is no option to do anything else other than to buy one
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  game at time no not on the Epic story adment of your metaphor has sort of
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  brought me around on this a little bit which I think no it only brings you
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  around if if there is an option to buy everything at once but this person
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  hasn't there's not yes they don't have a shopping cart at the moment so it is not
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  unusual then yeah there's no other way for someone to buy five games yeah is to
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  just buy five games individually correct you have to go and buy five separate
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  transactions so guys I listen to your podcast last week
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  sorry I was skipping ahead but if you're not finished I'll I'll wait no no no no
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  you listen last week I we actually forgot that you weren't
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  there well we didn't forget you weren't there we just forgot to mention it again
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  oh sure I think they probably they probably realized the listeners probably
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  realized I look I it it pains me what I do have to miss some occasionally
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  because of work um I'm probably the person that misses the most I had so
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  much input into last week's episode that I almost considered re-releasing it with like
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  little inserts where I like just give my opinion on things sure well that's how
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  the world works these days if you're not happy with stuff you complain and ask to
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  be re-released yeah speaking of which so I watched Game of Thrones season 8 this
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  week because have you seen any of the others yeah I've seen all of the others
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  and oh you have okay yeah yeah yeah no I've always been a fan of Game of
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  Thrones yeah I know I stuck with it and um so I obviously watched season 8
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  because I planned to watch season 8 and I watched every other seon are you one
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  of the people say there needs to be a rewrite so what you doing in La were you
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  refiling season 8
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  ofing yeah petitioning HBO now I I liked
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  it I liked it a lot actually and okay I'm not actually sure what it is people
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  are upset about now there is one there is one instance where a
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  character does something that I I think the fans weren't happy with and and
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  thought that maybe was out of character for that character um but without giving
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  anything away I I think if you think that was out of character then you
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  haven't really been paying attention but then again I think that complaint
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  started earlier than that so I'm really not sure yeah I mean I've seen the valid
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  complaint that there's a coffee cup on the table and there's a water bottle
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  under someone's chair but like come on that's not [ __ ] that's not actually a
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  valid complaint I mean it is and it isn't like it's not a story no that's
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  what I'm saying though like you can't it's got nothing to do with [ __ ]
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  character progression or anything like yeah okay they they didn't spot that
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  there was a coffee cup there because they see coffee cups every day and yeah
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  it didn't say remake [ __ ] season 8 and don't put any coffee cups in it like
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  that's not what they were theyve already removed them did you yeah that's right
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  they were yeah they were asking for a complete rewrite of the what I'm saying
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  those yeah I'm just no look it didn't blow my mind in in terms of any twists
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  or anything unexpected it wrapped up the series exactly like I thought it was
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  going to everything I actually just think that people get upset when
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  something ends I just think at at this point now you just you're just going to
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  get criticism because everyone thinks oh my opinion counts now because I have the
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  internet so yes man I wouldn't want to be creating something in the public sphere now I
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  mean I get enough Flack from clients when I make something that they don't
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  like which is like practically every time and that's why I hate my job but
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  but I don't get petitions with a million people saying the problem that now stuff
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  like Sonic the Hedgehog is getting redone and has did
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  you just see that they've also had the push back the release date of that yeah
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  it's been push back to 2020 2020 I think it's in push back yeah because now push
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  back like six months or something Sonic and it's like well on the one hand
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  I guess yeah he did look a bit [ __ ] but on but then on the other hand whatever
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  happened to [ __ ] just respect the [ __ ] artist yeah how about don't
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  watch it then they all the people who are complaining they're going to go and
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  see it no matter what they're the ones that are invested
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  in it they're going to go and see it whether think it's I think that's true I
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  think the Sonic trailer came out it looked [ __ ] the movie was I mean it's
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  going to be [ __ ] a [ __ ] Sonic I honest to God thought that was like a
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  like a funny or Di sketch I had no idea that was a real movie no one actually
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  cares about this movie no that's that's what the people who are going to see it
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  are going to go see it no matter what like no matter what changes they make
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  they're going to make the same it's actually going to cost them more money
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  yes now because the same amount of people who were GNA see this movie would
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  have seen it no matter what all you've done is ruined some visual effects
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  artists Christmas at this point yes yeah
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  yeah so cool but yeah so the Game of Thrones thing and and the you know the
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  Mass Effect 3 was the was I I said the other week that Mass Effect 3 was the
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  beginning and uh I've been sent evidence to the contrary but that's that's fine
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  um but you know it's kind of just a I think Mass Effect 3 was an example of it
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  certainly it's people think you know they they don't like the way something
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  you know some piece of art say went change it then make it make it the way I want it
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  the Mass Effect 3 ending the only reason I didn't like that originally was
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  because you got to the end and you got to choose too bad the ending they gave you
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  don't play it then too bad to me off which to me was no no no not the fact
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  you the whole thing was the fact that I like I played through all these choices
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  which were meant to dictate the way the game ended and then I got to the end
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  went well you can choose which one you want yeah that's what I didn't like about it should
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  to make it the way you want it well no not the force the way I I
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  like I want to have all the choic I made throughout the all the games and then
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  went this is the ending you get yeah I no I I understand what you're saying but
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  then too bad that's not what they made no I didn't oh and that's what I didn't
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  get and I was fine I picked the ending I wanted and then I got it yeah yeah I
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  understand look and there was a lot of fuss about the Mass Effect 3 one that
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  happens in a lot of games and things so like for example at the end of um dayx
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  Human Revolution I don't know if you guys played through that or spoilers I
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  haven't played it yet okay well at the end you can kind of just choose what you
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  want to happen and it's a little underwhelming because you've been making
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  all these decisions all the way through and oh that's the one
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  where decide whether to destroy all of
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  the stuff or let it yeah sort of yeah there's three things you can do oh I
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  think I think always three but uh I'm pretty sure it's three it's not just two
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  but it was just a little like oh well can't can't you just make a decision and
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  have it kind of be based off everything I've done throughout the entire game
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  yeah but then on the other hand it's like well then you're just taking agency
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  away from me at the end if you don't let me choose uh because I might want to
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  choose and then yeah and it gets we that because in the next game it doesn't
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  matter what you chose because something happened that made it redundant
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  redundant anyway so yeah you will never
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  there's no way that this is why people this is why valves actually sort of stop
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  making games for a lot of part like half lifee three they're not going to make
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  half lifee three because no one will like what they
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  do well not everybody will yeah but no matter what they do
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  there will be a backlash about whatever Direction they go yeah but that's going
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  to be the case with literally every game and literally every movie from now on
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  and that's why that's the thing I going to say about Sonic is that it's not that
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  anybody gave a [ __ ] about Sonic it's that this it looked bad enough that
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  everybody was like yeah I do want them to change it even though I'm not going
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  to go and see it anyway yeah I'm not going to see I don't have any interest
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  in it but that look [ __ ] don't understand why anyone even has a dog in
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  this race well that's what I'm saying but once once it becomes a thing and
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  everybody piles on it it doesn't matter if you have a dog in the race it's just
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  an internet thing and everybody wants want yeah and you know what Sonic did look a
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  bit [ __ ] weird and I will go still go see it but here's the thing Thrones
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  right season one man remember back at season one remember the last episode of
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  season 1 spoilers if you haven't seen someone got their head cut off and I
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  stopped watching everyone's favorite character got their heads cut off and we
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  were like [ __ ] man this show doesn't pull punches your favorite character can
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  get killed we didn't just petition them to rewrite it yeah I like Shan
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  Bean yeah I mean I I saw a meme the other day that said you know you can you
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  can Ace every [ __ ] class from kindergarten to year 11 and if you fail
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  year 12 you still don't get your [ __ ] diploma and it's
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  like [ __ ] you I I I will argue against
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  that because there's no way I passed year 12 that's all for this week thank
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