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  Speaker 1: I'm Chris Hansen right now on Crime Watch Daily.
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  Speaker 2: From here in New York.
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  Speaker 1: A wild shootout in a fast food parking lot. The
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  Speaker 1: target's newlyweds with a baby on the way.
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  Speaker 2: She was shot seven months pregnant in her admint.
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  Speaker 1: The crazed shooter caught fleeing the scene on surveillance video.
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  Speaker 3: This is a mad gunman running around, but.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't a random attack, and the suspect is a shot.
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  Speaker 1: She's a grandma.
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  Speaker 2: There was some inexplicable obsession today.
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  Speaker 1: The killer granny and her police officer's son partners in
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  Speaker 1: an evil crime.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember pulling the trigger?
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  Speaker 1: In an exclusive jailhouse interview, the convicted killer is on
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  Speaker 1: the hot seat with our Michelle sa Gunner.
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  Speaker 4: I know all the evidence is there, but then.
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  Speaker 1: It's a miracle she's alive. The Utah girl who survived
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  Speaker 1: a senseless attack, why cops say two boys snaped over
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  Speaker 1: her snapchat.
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  Speaker 5: I am so thankful to be here today, to be.
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  Speaker 6: Alive right now.
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  Speaker 3: Andrea Isisen serve with Crimewatch Daily.
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  Speaker 5: Jason Mattaro a Crime Watch Day This. I'm Elizabeth, I'm
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  Speaker 5: here with Crimewatch and Michelle from Crime Watch Daily Anagarcia
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  Speaker 5: from Crimewatch is crime Watch deal off?
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  Speaker 7: We'll find you again, we always do.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to crime Watch Daily everyone, I'm Chris Hansen. First
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  Speaker 1: up today. Gunfire in the parking lot of a fast
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  Speaker 1: food restaurant. Two people are shot.
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  Speaker 2: One will not survive.
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  Speaker 1: Our Michelle should going to unravels the mystery of who
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  Speaker 1: pulled the trigger and.
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  Speaker 8: Why Mayhem at the mall in broad daylight.
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  Speaker 9: It was chaos.
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  Speaker 8: A spray bullets, ricochetane off cars parked near a McDonald's.
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  Speaker 9: There's people and the drive through. Their cars were struck
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  Speaker 9: by bullets, with.
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  Speaker 8: The smell of gunpowder hanging in the air. Innocent people
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  Speaker 8: narrowly escaping death.
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  Speaker 2: Two children are both under ten, and one of these
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  Speaker 2: children actually finds the bullet and says granddad, look here.
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  Speaker 8: But two are about to be hunted like prey.
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  Speaker 2: Robert died not knowing if his wife an unborn child
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  Speaker 2: were still alive.
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  Speaker 8: And the person firing the gun will shock you.
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  Speaker 9: She identified the shoot her as you. Of being taken
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  Speaker 9: to the hospital.
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  Speaker 8: Wednesday night at the shopping mam Waldorf, Maryland, a middle
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  Speaker 8: class suburb about thirty miles away from Washington, d C.
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  Speaker 9: It was primetime hours.
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  Speaker 8: Quietly sitting in their car in the mall parking lot.
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  Speaker 8: Newly weds Crystal and Robert Mangi. Crystal is a devoted
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  Speaker 8: mom to one child with Robert and one.
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  Speaker 3: Of the way.
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  Speaker 8: She also has two children from a previous relationship with
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  Speaker 8: a man named Richard Conway, a respected cop who had
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  Speaker 8: majority of custody of the children. The dad and his
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  Speaker 8: kids live with grandma who watched the children when her
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  Speaker 8: son worked. He had what ten days on four days off.
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  Speaker 9: Correct, that's a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Of custody for two young children to go to a father.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, Richard was the primary residence.
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  Speaker 8: On that fateful day, Crystal and Robert are waiting in
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  Speaker 8: the parking lot to pick up her kids as part
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  Speaker 8: of the custody deal with her.
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  Speaker 2: As they're sitting there, it's about five forty five. The
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  Speaker 2: meeting place in the time is six o'clock and it's
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  Speaker 2: been that for I don't know a year and a half
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  Speaker 2: hover long. The first visitation schedule was set up, but.
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  Speaker 8: The children never arrive and all hell is about to
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  Speaker 8: break loose. Suddenly, bullets are flying through the crowded parking lot.
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  Speaker 8: Frantic people run for safety, but Robert and Crystal are
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  Speaker 8: city ducks.
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  Speaker 9: One woman saw their shooter shoot Robert, come around the car,
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  Speaker 9: shoot Crystal, and then return and shoot Robert again while
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  Speaker 9: he's on the ground, and then walk away.
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  Speaker 8: Were they the targets of an attempted carjacking, unarmed robbery?
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  Speaker 8: Or was this something far more personal?
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  Speaker 3: This is a like a mad gunman running around.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: From the witnesses accounts, it seemed very calculated.
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  Speaker 8: Crystal and Robert are blindsided when the craze shooter suddenly
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  Speaker 8: jumps in the backseat.
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  Speaker 2: At that point, Robert and Crystal look at each other.
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  Speaker 2: They have this silent communication that one of them is
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  Speaker 2: going to go for this gun.
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  Speaker 3: This is within a matter of seconds.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, but Robert can't get to the gun before the
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  Speaker 8: shooter in the back seat opens fire.
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  Speaker 2: Robert goes out the driver's side door and falls to
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  Speaker 2: the pavement. He doesn't move, looks like he was hit
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  Speaker 2: least one time while he was in the car. Getting
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  Speaker 2: out of the car.
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  Speaker 8: The attacker jumps out of the car, stands directly over
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  Speaker 8: Robert like an assassin, pumping bullets into his chest, then
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  Speaker 8: coldly walks around to the passenger side and shoots his
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  Speaker 8: pregnant wife Crystal in this stomach.
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  Speaker 2: She's hiding cowering on the other side, finds her, shoots
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  Speaker 2: at her two or three times, hits her.
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  Speaker 8: I think one time, looking across, said her husband from
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  Speaker 8: under the jeep, Crystal could see he was fading away.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is a woman who's seven months pregnant.
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  Speaker 2: I can't imagine somebody going through that. She was literally
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  Speaker 2: laying on one side of who was a jeep where
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  Speaker 2: she got shot Robert, who was basically executed. On the
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  Speaker 2: other side of the jeep, He's just laying there.
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  Speaker 8: Emergency crews arrive and desperately try to save Robert. Tragically,
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  Speaker 8: it's too late.
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  Speaker 2: The emergency medical folks worked and worked and worked, but
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  Speaker 2: from the very moment that he was there, they didn't
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  Speaker 2: have a pulse or a heartbeat, but they worked on
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  Speaker 2: trying to bring him back for about ten or fifteen minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Robert died, not knowing if his wife an unborn child
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  Speaker 2: were still alive.
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  Speaker 8: The shooter flees, leaving behind death, destruction, but also an
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  Speaker 8: unexpected eyewitness.
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  Speaker 9: She identified the shooter as she was being taken to
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  Speaker 9: the hospital.
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  Speaker 8: That eyewitness, Crystal miraculously both she and her unborn baby
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  Speaker 8: survived after Cristel took a bullet to the belly, and
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  Speaker 8: the young mom knows exactly who shot them.
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  Speaker 3: She was obviously rushed to the hospital as quickly as.
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  Speaker 9: Possible correct and she even identified her shooter to police
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  Speaker 9: officers who arrived at the scene.
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  Speaker 8: So who does Crystal say shot her?
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  Speaker 9: She says, it's my ex's mom, Caroline Conway. She's the
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  Speaker 9: one who shot me.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 8: The shooter is her ex mother in law, Caroline Conway.
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  Speaker 8: But why would Caroline, as seemingly sweet grandmother, want to
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  Speaker 8: rub out the mother of her own grandchildren.
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  Speaker 2: There was some inexplicable obsession on the part of Caroline Conway,
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  Speaker 2: one of those children with her.
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  Speaker 8: Cops are about to learn Caroline Conway's son is their
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  Speaker 8: brother in blue, an officer of the law. Did she
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  Speaker 8: use a service weapon? Coming up our exclusive interview with
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  Speaker 8: Caroline Conway from behind Bars, the big question what on
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  Speaker 8: earth would drive a grandmother to shoot her pregnant ex
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  Speaker 8: daughter in law and new husband.
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  Speaker 1: A shooting in a parking lot has left one man dead.
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  Speaker 1: His pregnant wife has also been shot in the stomach,
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  Speaker 1: but somehow survives and on her way to the hospital,
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  Speaker 1: she's able to whisper the name of the person who
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  Speaker 1: pulled the trigger.
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  Speaker 2: It's a shocker.
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  Speaker 1: Let's head back to Michelle Sagona in Maryland with the details.
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  Speaker 8: On ambush unfolds in a mall parking lot. A crazed
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  Speaker 8: gun toting killer seems to be on the loose.
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  Speaker 2: People are terrified they're fleeing.
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  Speaker 8: But this is no random shooting. The targets are newlyweds
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  Speaker 8: Krystal and Robert Nji. The attacker assassinates Robert, shooting him
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  Speaker 8: several times in the chest, then pumps a bullet into
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  Speaker 8: Crystal's belly, who's carrying a baby.
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  Speaker 2: She was shut seven months pregnant in her admitry.
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  Speaker 8: Tragically, Robert died at the scene, but Crystal and her
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  Speaker 8: unborn baby survive as paramedics take her to the hospital.
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  Speaker 8: Crystal identifies the cold blooded killer and it's a shocker.
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  Speaker 8: The shooter is Crystal's ex mother in law, Caroline Conway.
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  Speaker 2: Crystal liveth for a couple of years, so she obviously
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  Speaker 2: knows who it is, knows the voice and everything.
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  Speaker 8: Uninjured and hysterical, Crystal is also able to give investigators
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  Speaker 8: even more like the address where the fifty three year
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  Speaker 8: old grandmother lives along with her son. A patrol officer
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  Speaker 8: with the Prince George's County Police.
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  Speaker 2: Department Sheriff's Office went directly to the house and they
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  Speaker 2: set up a perimeter.
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  Speaker 9: They had the Emergency Services team, which is basically a
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  Speaker 9: spot team. They were geared up and at the Conway's house,
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  Speaker 9: but when.
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  Speaker 8: They descend on the house, Caroline is nowhere to be found,
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  Speaker 8: and neither is her son, Richard, So there was an
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  Speaker 8: all out search to find this mother and son.
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  Speaker 6: Correct.
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  Speaker 8: What cops do soon locate is this surveillance video from
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  Speaker 8: near the mall parking lot in the moments after the
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  Speaker 8: murder spree. It shows the grandma casually walking away from
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  Speaker 8: the terror zone.
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  Speaker 2: She crosses that highway, she crosses right at a Dunkin
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  Speaker 2: Donuts and gas station, and.
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  Speaker 8: At this point Grandma's getaway plan takes action. Investigators say
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  Speaker 8: there is a video over son Richard's circling the parking lot.
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  Speaker 8: Cops clean Caroline scene here moments after the shootings, calls
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  Speaker 8: him from a burner phone, a prepaid thrown away phone
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  Speaker 8: that can be difficult for police to trace. She uses
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  Speaker 8: it to tell Richard to pick her up. From there,
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  Speaker 8: they go to the house of some family friends, the Gaels.
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  Speaker 8: Their police say, Caroline changes her shirt.
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  Speaker 10: So Richard receives these phone calls, picks up his mother.
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  Speaker 2: They go to the Gael's house. It's a family about
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  Speaker 2: fifteen twenty minutes away. She takes a shirt from their
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  Speaker 2: house and puts that shirt on, which I believe it
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  Speaker 2: was yellow.
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  Speaker 8: But the quick change would soon become attempted buried evidence.
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  Speaker 2: Richard is seen putting the gun and the clothes in
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  Speaker 2: a trash bag. You can't necessarily make out a gun
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  Speaker 2: on the video, but the Gaels tell you that's what
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  Speaker 2: was there.
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  Speaker 3: Did they confide in the Gals.
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  Speaker 2: Caroline when she got there, first thing out of her
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  Speaker 2: mouth was I shot him. I shot him both. She
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  Speaker 2: said that to.
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  Speaker 3: Mom and they have no idea what she's talking about.
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  Speaker 2: That's what they said, yeah, and she said she shot him.
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  Speaker 8: Investigators find more damning surveillance video here. Caroline can be
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  Speaker 8: seen wearing what looks like a yellow shirt getting into
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  Speaker 8: a car with their son and two kids. Detectives say
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  Speaker 8: after leaving the Gael's house, they head to Laplata, the
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  Speaker 8: next location in the duo's twisted plan.
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  Speaker 3: Where were they.
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  Speaker 9: They were attending to live out the alibi that Caroline
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  Speaker 9: had set up for them, which was when Caroline got
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  Speaker 9: into the car and put them put Chris like gunpoint.
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  Speaker 9: She forced her to call Richard to change the custody
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  Speaker 9: drop off to seven point thirty at the well played
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  Speaker 9: at courthouse, which was, you know, hours after she was
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  Speaker 9: supposed to be at the McDonald's.
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  Speaker 8: Caroline and Richard thought their ruse was air tight, the
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  Speaker 8: plan to meet Crystal at the courthouse, as if they
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  Speaker 8: didn't know she was dead. But there's one small hitch.
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  Speaker 2: They don't know that Crystal is alive. They just don't know,
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  Speaker 2: so they can say that Caroline didn't make it to
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  Speaker 2: the McDonald's. The phone records would show that she didn't
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  Speaker 2: go over to the McDonald's. But Crystal Maine is alive,
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  Speaker 2: she can identify her.
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  Speaker 8: But for some reason, they never make it to the
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  Speaker 8: courthouse where the handover for the kids was supposed to
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  Speaker 8: take place, and go to a Target store instead.
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  Speaker 3: Where does she go in the target?
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  Speaker 2: They just went into the bathroom, then left and went home.
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  Speaker 8: But Home Sweet Home is anything but it's now sworn
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  Speaker 8: with cops. The neighborhood completely cordoned off with yellow crime
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  Speaker 8: scene tape.
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  Speaker 9: When they arrived, they were in the crowd of onlookers,
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  Speaker 9: so the police have blocked off this section of the street.
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  Speaker 8: Richard and his mom joined the neighborhood onlookers, trying to
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  Speaker 8: blend in, acting like they have no idea what's going on. Well,
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  Speaker 8: while standing in the crowd, Richard gets a call from
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  Speaker 8: his supervisors. They want to talk to him.
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  Speaker 3: There's a problem.
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  Speaker 2: There's a problem. He's been getting calls and texts and
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  Speaker 2: he's been ignoring them. He finally answers the phone and
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  Speaker 2: the officer says, where are you. He goes why, He
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  Speaker 2: goes Charles Kin, sheriffs Office needs to talk to you.
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  Speaker 2: But Richard finally goes ahead and goes over to the
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  Speaker 2: sheriff's officer and says, Hey, I'm Richard Conway. I'm told
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  Speaker 2: I need to make contact with you. They ask him,
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  Speaker 2: where's your mother, and he says, oh, she's right over there,
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  Speaker 2: and she's standing over there in the crowd as well,
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  Speaker 2: just standing.
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  Speaker 10: There as if she were like waiting to get to
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  Speaker 10: her home, as if nothing was happening.
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  Speaker 8: But something was definitely happening. Caroline is immediately arrested on
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  Speaker 8: the spot and Richard is brought in for questioning.
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  Speaker 3: Is a cooperative Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 8: At the police station, both Caroline and Richard sing like birds,
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  Speaker 8: talking for hours to detectives, even without a lawyer present.
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  Speaker 8: Why as a police officer would you do that?
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  Speaker 9: I guess he was trying to clear his name, you know,
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  Speaker 9: he thought he could talk his way out of it.
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  Speaker 3: What about Caroline Conway? Is she cooperative to.
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  Speaker 2: A certain certain degree? I mean if by cooperative he
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  Speaker 2: meant that she gave a statement. Yeah, she gave a statement.
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  Speaker 2: So they tell the same story at first, the same
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  Speaker 2: story of with the kids driving around looking at homes.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's what they're saying. That the timeframe was, and
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  Speaker 2: that the call, the call from Crystal, that changed the location.
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  Speaker 3: Place because they say they were out just driving around.
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  Speaker 2: Right around, looking at houses.
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  Speaker 8: But cops weren't buying her story, and investigators had enough
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  Speaker 8: evidence to hold Caroline in jail, charging her with first
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  Speaker 8: degree murder. Richard was released, but it wasn't long before
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  Speaker 8: Prince George's County police came back knocking on his door,
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  Speaker 8: puffing him after they receive a phone call and video
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  Speaker 8: from the Conway's friends.
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  Speaker 9: Two old family friends came forward and told police that
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  Speaker 9: the Conways had actually come by their house after shooting.
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  Speaker 9: They're captured on home surveillance video and they're both seen
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  Speaker 9: handling a white trash bag and the man who owned
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  Speaker 9: the house he said that he saw a gun in there.
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  Speaker 8: Now son and mother faced murder charges.
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  Speaker 3: She says, I have amnesia, yeah, and.
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  Speaker 8: An eyewitness who they thought was dead, it was very
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  Speaker 8: much alive. Next from behind bars, Caroline Conway tells her
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  Speaker 8: story exclusively to Crime Watch Daily.
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  Speaker 4: I'm the closest thing they have me indented everything together,
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  Speaker 4: like if I raise my own children.
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  Speaker 8: And just wait till you hear why she wanted her
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  Speaker 8: ex daughter in law dead.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember pulling the trigger?
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  Speaker 1: What would cause grandmother Caroline Conway to snap? Well, today,
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  Speaker 1: she says she has a good reason why she opened
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  Speaker 1: fire on the mother of her grandchild and her new husband.
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  Speaker 1: Once again, here's Michelle Sagun.
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  Speaker 8: Chris Today in a Crime Watch Daily exclusive, Caroline Conway
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  Speaker 8: is breaking her silence to me from behind bars for
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  Speaker 8: the very first time about her case. A young mother,
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  Speaker 8: Crystal Mangi and her husband Robert are gunned down in
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  Speaker 8: a busy parking lot in broad daylight. Unbelievably, the shooter
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  Speaker 8: is Crystal's own ex mother in law.
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  Speaker 10: We're here today in the Charles County Detention Center. You
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  Speaker 10: have agreed to sit down with Crime Watch Daily to
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  Speaker 10: tell your side of the story. Why is this important
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  Speaker 10: to you?
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  Speaker 4: Because I need people to know what happened to truth.
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  Speaker 8: Now, in an exclusive jail house interview, that shooter, Caroline Conway,
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  Speaker 8: is talking publicly about that terrible day for the first time.
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  Speaker 10: So as far as the actual shooting, do you take
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  Speaker 10: responsibility for that?
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  Speaker 4: I know they said it happened, and I know the
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  Speaker 4: evidence says that I did it, but I don't remember it.
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  Speaker 3: And so you're saying to me here today you do
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  Speaker 3: not remember?
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  Speaker 4: No, man, I do.
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  Speaker 8: No, she doesn't remember. This is the same woman who
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  Speaker 8: used a burner phone and arranged for a pickup with
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  Speaker 8: her son just moments after shooting her ex daughter in
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  Speaker 8: law and her new husband.
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  Speaker 2: Let's be real for just a second here, Okay. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there's no question, there's no question in anybody's mind the
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  Speaker 2: Caroline Conway jumped in that jeep and end up shooting
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  Speaker 2: those two people.
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  Speaker 8: There's none but Conway's attorneys say there's no way anyone
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  Speaker 8: in their right mind would have designed such a flawed
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  Speaker 8: murder blueprint.
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  Speaker 2: This is not the not the mind of the same
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  Speaker 2: person at all that would literally think not only could
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  Speaker 2: you commit a shooting in broad daylight with no mask on,
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  Speaker 2: but that you would walk away from it afterwards.
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  Speaker 8: She claims the shooting is a blur, But Caroline Conway
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  Speaker 8: is crystal clear on what triggered her murderous rage, and
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  Speaker 8: it's a shocker.
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  Speaker 3: We believe your grandchildren are still in trouble today. I
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  Speaker 3: believe they're with their molesters still today.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, yes, you heard her right. Caroline Conway is now
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  Speaker 8: claiming she thought her grandchildren were molested while staying at
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  Speaker 8: their mother's homes.
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  Speaker 3: Do you believe that? Why?
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  Speaker 4: Because my grandson told me and we have evidence.
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  Speaker 8: Crime Watch Daily reached out to the Virginia Department of
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  Speaker 8: Social Services and they issued this statement in part, the
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  Speaker 8: only circumstances under which VDSS would be able to share
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  Speaker 8: information around an investigation would be in the case of
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  Speaker 8: a child fatality. We do not have records of any
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  Speaker 8: of those individuals being investigated under that particular criteria. But
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  Speaker 8: prosecutors taken one step further, claiming the grandmother was grasping
• 17:55
  Speaker 8: for straws, looking for a defense.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Evidence shows what well, The evidence shows us no abuse.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: The charges that were were leveled, the allegations were found
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: to be what they call unfounded. She just kept ratching up,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: ratching it up. I'll say this, see if this works.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: I'll say something worse. See if that works. I'll say
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: something even worse and see if that works.
• 18:16
  Speaker 8: But Conway insists a friend of Robert and Crystal, a
• 18:20
  Speaker 8: man named Montana nicknamed Tanna, was sexually abusing the children,
• 18:24
  Speaker 8: even though she had no evidence to prove it.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: My grandson with shorten signs of being molested. He started
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: telling me things.
• 18:34
  Speaker 11: He confided in her more than anybody else. So when
• 18:39
  Speaker 11: he told her, Caroline, ya yad to him, he says,
• 18:42
  Speaker 11: ya yat, these things are happening to me. She believed him.
• 18:47
  Speaker 8: Caroline also claimed that when her grandchildren returned from their
• 18:50
  Speaker 8: mother's house, they were filthy and showed signs of neglect.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: Then Greasie came back with they bloodstained panthers, bloodstained pampers,
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: raw pampers, like it was all raw, like I don't
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: know it was just really bad. When we took it
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: to a doctor, he was like, it could be a
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: bad rash.
• 19:11
  Speaker 8: In fact, Caroline's lawyer claims one of the reasons she
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: snapped came when Grandma was flooded with her own bad memories.
• 19:19
  Speaker 11: This crime, and as far as I'm concerned, it goes
• 19:21
  Speaker 11: back years and years and years, some fifty years to
• 19:24
  Speaker 11: when she was a small child.
• 19:26
  Speaker 8: Defense attorney James Farmer says, Caroline claims she was the
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: victim of horrible sex crimes as a child.
• 19:32
  Speaker 11: When Caroline was two years old, some friends would sexually
• 19:36
  Speaker 11: abuse and ripe Caroline. It's something that she has suppressed.
• 19:40
  Speaker 11: She gets suppressed for decades. That did not come up
• 19:43
  Speaker 11: even in her twenty thirty year relationship with her husband.
• 19:46
  Speaker 10: Did Caroline Conway ever admit to actually pulling the trigger.
• 19:51
  Speaker 11: She did not because of her psychological disorders. She does
• 19:56
  Speaker 11: not have a concrete memory and.
• 19:58
  Speaker 8: Not remembering what happen and is just one defense Conway's
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: attorney took to the jurors. Both Caroline and Richard Conway
• 20:05
  Speaker 8: face separate trials on murder charges.
• 20:08
  Speaker 11: She does not remember squeezing the trigger.
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: The prosecution says memory loss is a crack poth theory,
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: and that Caroline and her son simply wanted Crystal out
• 20:19
  Speaker 8: of the picture so they could have full custody.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Then come up with any other mode that they want to.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: But that was the real motive behind this.
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: They wanted the children with them all the time, exactly
• 20:31
  Speaker 8: In court, attorneys picked apart the case. Like Crow's, the
• 20:35
  Speaker 8: defense honed in on text messages between Crystal and Montana.
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: They see the tech show. Montana lived in the home
• 20:41
  Speaker 8: with the couple and therefore had access to the kids
• 20:45
  Speaker 8: and so and this child, this young child alleges that
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: Montana and was in fact the person who may have
• 20:53
  Speaker 8: been allegedly touching him.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: The state investigation never found any sexual abuse in Crystal's
• 20:59
  Speaker 8: home and Montana was totally cleared. The prosecution argued they
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: could point to premeditated murder. First, the burner phone that
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: Caroline used to call her son after the shooting was
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: purchased about a month before the incident.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Richard got a young man at sixteen seventeen years old,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I think it was at the time. He gave him
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: some ridiculous story about he needed a burner phone because
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: the police officer he was working this huge narcotics case
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: with some New Yorkers, and he didn't want to use
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: his own phone, and Richard drove him over to the
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Walmart and symplicated there with cash. He got the phone,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: brought it back out, gave it to Richard and that
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: was that. And that was the phone that Caroline used
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: as she's walking away from the scene to call Richard
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: twice in order to pick her up.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Those phone records match absolutely.
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: Also under the microscope damning surveillance tape.
• 21:51
  Speaker 10: How important will all the video elements in this case
• 21:55
  Speaker 10: for you?
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: They're critical one. You know, video corroborates people's testimony, and
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Crystal's testimony was corroborated because the video from the Gail's
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: house is extremely important.
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: Remember the Gails were the Conway's friends who gave detective
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: surveillance footage showing Richard trying to discard the weapon used
• 22:14
  Speaker 8: in the shooting into a white trash bag. And in
• 22:18
  Speaker 8: a dramatic courtroom moment, Caroline took this stand in her
• 22:21
  Speaker 8: own defense.
• 22:23
  Speaker 11: She explained what she could recall of the day and
• 22:26
  Speaker 11: what was going on with the children, but.
• 22:28
  Speaker 8: The jury didn't buy the long list of defenses. After
• 22:31
  Speaker 8: a two week trial, Grandma Conway was found guilty on
• 22:34
  Speaker 8: first degree murder. Her son Richard also guilty. Both will
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: spend the rest of their lives behind bars.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Well she ever see the light of day.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I believe that everybody who's convicted by jury a first
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: green murder should stay in jail for the rest of
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: their life because they have taken somebody from this planet
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: and you cannot bring them back ever.
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: And from behind bars, Grandma Conway still adamantly stands by
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: her story that her grandchildren were in grave danger. She's
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: determined to keep fighting.
• 23:04
  Speaker 10: To you, in your heart, really honestly believe your grandchild
• 23:08
  Speaker 10: or grandchildren were touched inappropriately.
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: As I do.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: They told me they heard her, but nobody listened up.
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: Next, the man Caroline Conway accuses comes forward to set
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: the record straight and fire some shots of his own.
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: Did anything ever inappropriate happen?
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: It's been dubbed a custody dispute on steroids, one that
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: would involve accusations of sexual abuse, a sheriff's deputy and
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: a grandma with a gun. Our Michelle Sagona is in
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Maryland now with more of our exclusive investigation.
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: Caroline Conway and her son Richard are sitting behind bars,
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: both convicted of murder after Caroline cold bloodedly shot her
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: ex daughter in law Crystal and executed her new husband,
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: Robert Mangi in a shopping mall parking lot. All over
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: our custody battle and allegations of sexual abuse.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: My grandson was showing signs of being molested in and
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: started telling me things that.
• 24:13
  Speaker 11: He said to her, things of a sexual nature when
• 24:16
  Speaker 11: they were bathing him.
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: After hearing the stories, are horrified, Caroline sent her grandson
• 24:22
  Speaker 8: to a therapist one day.
• 24:25
  Speaker 11: The therapist goes through bad touch, good touch, confusing, touch
• 24:30
  Speaker 11: your private area, and it says, at mama's house, I'll
• 24:35
  Speaker 11: be hurt if I tell.
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: The therapist reported the alleged abuse to the Virginia Department
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: of Social Services, who did not find evidence to support
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: the claim.
• 24:45
  Speaker 10: I need to know here, specifically, what your grandson told
• 24:48
  Speaker 10: you about what he said was happening to him.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: He said that they may not go into the bathroom
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: sit in the tub. Would not wa he said, because
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Robin and Montana would come in their naked and make
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: them touch them and they would rub themselves on him.
• 25:08
  Speaker 8: Montana, the friend of Crystal and Robert, was never called
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: to testify in court. Both he and Cristel were totally
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: cleared of any wrongdoing by the Department of Social Services.
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: But Montana came to us to set the record straight
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: once and for all, claiming that he never touched either
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: of Crystal's children and he's appalled by the allegations.
• 25:30
  Speaker 12: Why do you think Caroline Conway said said these things
• 25:33
  Speaker 12: about you.
• 25:34
  Speaker 13: They're grasping at straws because they knew that they were
• 25:36
  Speaker 13: going to be losing the child custody case, and they
• 25:40
  Speaker 13: thought that if they had accused Crystal, Robert and I
• 25:44
  Speaker 13: of sexually assaulting the children, then they'd be a slam dunk.
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: No one would really look into it much.
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: We asked Montana, a former naval officer, whether he lived
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: with Crystal and Robert, a big point of contention in court,
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: which would suggest he had access to the kids.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: And so, would you classify yourself as a roommate.
• 26:06
  Speaker 13: It's hard to distinguish simply because I had my own place.
• 26:09
  Speaker 13: I lived on basein what's called PPB.
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: Some would say, well, why are you spending so much
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: time over there?
• 26:15
  Speaker 13: Because Rob was my best friend in the Navy. We
• 26:20
  Speaker 13: shared everything, We spent a lot of time when we
• 26:23
  Speaker 13: were out to sea together.
• 26:24
  Speaker 12: Spending time with the children. You definitely did that by
• 26:29
  Speaker 12: yourself and with.
• 26:30
  Speaker 13: Them, with them the majority of the time. Every now
• 26:33
  Speaker 13: and then, you know, I would be a hey, we're
• 26:34
  Speaker 13: running to the store something. Can you keep an eye
• 26:36
  Speaker 13: on the kids?
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: During that time?
• 26:39
  Speaker 12: Did anything ever inappropriate happen?
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: No?
• 26:42
  Speaker 12: Never, I would Did you ever give the children a
• 26:44
  Speaker 12: bath without water?
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: God?
• 26:46
  Speaker 12: No, anything else that they are claiming, no that you did.
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: No, I wouldn't.
• 26:52
  Speaker 13: I would never lay a hand on a child like that.
• 26:54
  Speaker 13: Is that is ridiculous. I've never touched the children in
• 26:57
  Speaker 13: any way, shape or form like that. I I hate
• 27:00
  Speaker 13: people like that and like it just fills me with
• 27:03
  Speaker 13: rage knowing that somebody would go that far to try to.
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: Ruin someone else's life.
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: Montana recalls the moment he heard the devastating news that
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: his best friend Robert was killed.
• 27:16
  Speaker 13: My friend was gone. There's nothing that I could do
• 27:18
  Speaker 13: to bring him back. And sorry, it's okay, And I
• 27:29
  Speaker 13: just I lost.
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: It, and Montana says he wishes he had the chance
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: to confront the conways face to face.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Did you want to testify?
• 27:38
  Speaker 13: I wanted to look at the people in the eye
• 27:41
  Speaker 13: that had took one of my best friends away from
• 27:43
  Speaker 13: me and let them know that what they did was
• 27:46
  Speaker 13: wrong and.
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: That they didn't need to take it that far.
• 27:51
  Speaker 13: And I wanted to make sure that they had the
• 27:54
  Speaker 13: book thrown at them.
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: Since the sentencing, Crystal moved to Florida with the kids,
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: leaving Caroline daughters who want to remain anonymous, to pick
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: up the pieces.
• 28:05
  Speaker 10: Are you angry with your mom?
• 28:10
  Speaker 13: A little?
• 28:12
  Speaker 14: I don't want to say angry, more upset or and
• 28:16
  Speaker 14: disappointed because it's like.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: He almost took that from us and our families. What
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: are we supposed to say when we have kids and they.
• 28:30
  Speaker 14: Ask about and he asks you about like grandma, you know,
• 28:36
  Speaker 14: like that's not just like your life, it's like our
• 28:39
  Speaker 14: lives and our family's lives.
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: And even though the book is now closed on the
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: dark tail the conways, the fifty three year old grandmother
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: says she still can't remember pulling the trigger, but she
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: will live with the consequences for the rest of her life.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: My family's been broken up, They've been torn apart of
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: his whole situation. Do you have for that? I regret
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: that I have. I feel tremendous guilt for that because
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: it's wrong, But I honestly can't remember doing this.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Coming up one shot to the head, Desiree was left
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: to die.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: I told my dad that I am tougher than a bot.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: But the team survived and comps say the violent and
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: vicious attack was at the hands of two of her
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: classmates with a shocking motive.
• 29:31
  Speaker 15: I haven't seen anything like this case in eighteen years
• 29:35
  Speaker 15: that I've worked for cash Can next.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: As we travel across the country covering crime stories, we've
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: certainly run across some pretty outrageous reasons why people commit crimes.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Case in point, the attempted murder of a young Utah girl.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Just wait until you hear what the suspects say their
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: alleged motive was.
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: They were teams to sixteen year old were identified as
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: significant people of interest.
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: Who Copsey snapped he shot her in the back.
• 30:06
  Speaker 15: I haven't seen anything like this case.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: It's mid February in Smithfield, Utah. There's a winter chill
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: in the air. In something else much colder. A conversation
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: between two sixteen year old boys, Colter Peterson and Jason.
• 30:22
  Speaker 16: Decker one day while they were playing video games, They
• 30:26
  Speaker 16: talked about how easy it would be to just get
• 30:29
  Speaker 16: rid of her.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Then hers fellow Skyview High School student, fourteen year old
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Desiree Turner.
• 30:36
  Speaker 16: She was a competitive equestrian, a very thoughtful, responsible, sweet
• 30:41
  Speaker 16: young woman, and a good student according to her parents
• 30:44
  Speaker 16: and her teachers.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: But to her classmates Colter and Jason, she's something else,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: something worth killing for. Colter tells his best friend Jason
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: that he wishes he could get rid of her. According
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: to courtroom testimony, Jason responds, quote, well, you've got a
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: six inch blade, why.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Don't you do it yourself.
• 31:04
  Speaker 16: The original plan had been to slit Desiree's throat. They
• 31:08
  Speaker 16: had talked about how that would be quieter, but as
• 31:11
  Speaker 16: a backup, Colter did bring a gun with him.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Two days after Valentine's Day. According to courtroom testimony, the
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: plot is a plan, and that plan is in motion,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: and Jason sends a text to Colter which reads, let's
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: get this done, bro.
• 31:27
  Speaker 16: Colter Peterson asked Desiree to meet him at the canal.
• 31:31
  Speaker 16: He was going to sell her a knife. So she
• 31:33
  Speaker 16: got there and Jason Decker was there as well, something
• 31:37
  Speaker 16: that she was surprised about.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: The three high schoolers chat for a little bit, and
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: then Desiree receives a tax from her mother asking her
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: to hurry home. Desiree turns to walk away.
• 31:49
  Speaker 16: That's when Colter shot her in the back.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: The bullet hits Desiree in the back of the head
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: and she falls to the ground. Then Jason removes the
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: backpack from the girl's seemingly lifeless body for a heartless final.
• 32:00
  Speaker 16: Act, and as she was there, presumably dying, the boys went.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Through her backpack.
• 32:06
  Speaker 16: They took her iPod, they took her phone, they took
• 32:09
  Speaker 16: fifty five dollars in cash, and they left her there.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Hours pass and Desiree's parents are panicked. They've been waiting
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: for her since school let out and their daughters still
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: hasn't come home. They file a missing person's report and
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: take to Facebook asking for.
• 32:24
  Speaker 16: Help, and the community went out and started looking for
• 32:27
  Speaker 16: desire so a small community.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Finally, just before one am, two family friends find her
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: laying face down in the field, covered in blood where
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: she was left to die. But as it turns out,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: the girl is still a lot, even if just barely.
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: Desiree is currently in critical condition. She's in a medical
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: induced coma, and she is in the fight of her
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: life right now.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Smithfield police search for the shooter.
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: Investigators have served multiple search words and hercover.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Key evidence evidence like Ray's phone records from right before
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: she was shot.
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: Two sixteen year old males were identified as significant people
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: of interest.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Cop soon tracked down Colter and he admits to shooting
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Desiree and the motive as senseless as they come.
• 33:15
  Speaker 16: The boys became annoyed with Desiree because she was contacting
• 33:20
  Speaker 16: them consistently through social media.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: According to courtroom testimony, Colter says, quote, I just didn't
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: want anything to do with snapchatting or anymore, that's right.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Coulter admits he snapped over snapchats, but while he admits
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: he was the trigger man, he claims Jason was the mastermind.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: At first, Jason denies any involvement, but later changes his
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: story after police make a damning discovery in his veteran
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the shellcasing to the bullet used to shoot Desiree, which
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Coulter claims Jason asked to keep as a memento.
• 33:54
  Speaker 15: I haven't seen anything like this case in eighteen years
• 33:58
  Speaker 15: that I've worked for cash Count.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: And neither has the judge who later determines the sixteen
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: year old boys will be tried as adults. Colter Peterson's
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: attorney reacting to the news that his client will be
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: moving from the juvenile facility to an adult prison.
• 34:14
  Speaker 10: He started a cooking class, he's getting his education.
• 34:18
  Speaker 12: He's really thriving in this environment, and now to take
• 34:21
  Speaker 12: him out of that, I think it's a travesty.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Coulter Peterson and Jason Decker face charges of aggravated attempted murder,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: aggravated robbery, and obstructing justice. Colter Peterson's trial will begin
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: in the fall, and Jason Decker's trial is scheduled for January.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Neither one of them has entered a plea. As for Desiree,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: she miraculously survives.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: I am so thankful to be here today, to be.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Alive with the bullet still lodged in her head. Desiree
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: puts on a brave face for the media, including our
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Fox thirteen affiliate reporter Dora.
• 34:53
  Speaker 16: Schaidell, and all the pictures we've seen Nivers. She had
• 34:56
  Speaker 16: these long, curly locks and her hair was short to
• 35:00
  Speaker 16: obviously due to her brain injury and all the surgery
• 35:04
  Speaker 16: that she had had to have on her skull.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: I told my dad that I am tougher than a
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: bullet and.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: The first thing this tinet questrian wants to do when
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: she gets home see her beloved horses.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: My favorite horse's name is Junior, and I'm super excited
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: to go see him and ride him again.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, it maybe some time before Desiree rides again.
• 35:24
  Speaker 15: Dos has battled for her life and the ability to
• 35:27
  Speaker 15: do daily tasks. She still wages this battle and will
• 35:32
  Speaker 15: for many years to come.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Desrae's physical wounds will continue to heal over time, but
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: the entire community is still trying to recover from the
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: scars left by an.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Act so sensus.
• 35:42
  Speaker 16: I think what's been most shocking about this case is
• 35:45
  Speaker 16: trying to figure out why why would these young boys
• 35:49
  Speaker 16: do something so violent, so cruel, just because they were
• 35:54
  Speaker 16: annoyed that she was messaging them through social media. I
• 35:57
  Speaker 16: don't know if we'll ever truly understand why they did
• 36:01
  Speaker 16: this