Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Katie spoke with Planning Minister Eva Lawler about building for population growth in the Territory
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- 0:00Speaker 1: You are listening to mix one oh four point nine
- 0:02Speaker 1: three point sixteen. Now the government is set to investigate
- 0:05Speaker 1: key land parcels in an effort to support further population
- 0:08Speaker 1: growth here in the territory. Fifteen million dollars is going
- 0:12Speaker 1: to be invested over the next five years in planning
- 0:15Speaker 1: works for population and industry growth. Now joining me on
- 0:19Speaker 1: the line is the Minister for Infrastructure, Planning and Logistics.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Evil La La Good morning, Good morning, Katie.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Minister. Work is underway, obviously in an effort to plan
- 0:29Speaker 1: for future population growth, identifying land as well as locations
- 0:33Speaker 1: where residential lots will eventually become available. What areas are
- 0:37Speaker 1: the government looking at to release these five thousand residential lots?
- 0:42Speaker 2: Okay, so just one step back, Katie. So we've released
- 0:44Speaker 2: the Halts to Elizabeth Rivers Subregional Land Use Plan, so
- 0:49Speaker 2: that this is the second stage of consultation for this plan.
- 0:52Speaker 2: So the first stage was going out talking to people,
- 0:55Speaker 2: asking people in Parmesan and the rural area about what
- 0:59Speaker 2: they saw for the future. So we've released this plan,
- 1:02Speaker 2: which is a thirty to fifty year long vision plan.
- 1:05Speaker 2: It's out for consultation until the twenty sixth of November.
- 1:09Speaker 2: But part of it, so the plan focuses on the
- 1:12Speaker 2: area that's like a ring around the community of Palmerston,
- 1:15Speaker 2: around the city of Palmerston. So the plan focuses on Holts,
- 1:20Speaker 2: that eleven mile industrial area, the south sort of west
- 1:23Speaker 2: side of Virginia, which is the sort of the land
- 1:26Speaker 2: that abuts to Palmerston, Archer and then Mitchell West and
- 1:30Speaker 2: so that's sort of like a ring around Palmerston, and
- 1:33Speaker 2: that's what the plan looks at. And part of that
- 1:35Speaker 2: then is Holts and that's where we've been having conversations
- 1:40Speaker 2: for quite a while about the future suburbs, future residential
- 1:44Speaker 2: suburbs in that Palmerston region, which is Holts and this plan.
- 1:49Speaker 2: So there's a Darwin Regional land News Plan which is
- 1:51Speaker 2: that greater all of Darwin and Beyond plan. The next
- 1:55Speaker 2: one is this Holts and Elizabeth River Regional land News Plan.
- 1:59Speaker 2: We will then get to the stage of doing the
- 2:01Speaker 2: area plan for actual Holts. So when you talk about
- 2:04Speaker 2: residential lots, and we're looking at about five thousand residential
- 2:07Speaker 2: lots there. Then once this Regional land Jews Plan Subregional
- 2:12Speaker 2: land News Plan is completed and as I said, is
- 2:14Speaker 2: out for consultation. Then we focus on the absolute area
- 2:18Speaker 2: plans areas such as Holts, so that area plan will
- 2:21Speaker 2: look at things such as know where schools will go,
- 2:25Speaker 2: where the community purpose land will be, you know the roads,
- 2:29Speaker 2: any other shopping centers, anything like that. So that looks
- 2:32Speaker 2: at the social infrastructure as well. So it's the Independent
- 2:35Speaker 2: Planning Commission. It's work they're doing. We're at the mid
- 2:38Speaker 2: stage now. And then the nitty gritty, the smallest, the
- 2:42Speaker 2: smaller grains of the area plan has done through that
- 2:45Speaker 2: Holt's Area Plan.
- 2:46Speaker 1: So Minister, how much are we really expecting the population
- 2:49Speaker 1: to grow?
- 2:50Speaker 2: So the Holts to Elizabeth River Subregional Land Juice Plan
- 2:55Speaker 2: is based on about a two point five percent growth
- 2:58Speaker 2: of population. So it is about making sure though that
- 3:01Speaker 2: we do have land available into the future, so it's
- 3:04Speaker 2: no point in getting caught out. And it's also about
- 3:07Speaker 2: making sure we have those title blots. So this is
- 3:10Speaker 2: land that's owned by nothern terretary government, so we're in
- 3:13Speaker 2: control of that. We can put in the headworks all
- 3:16Speaker 2: the works that are needed for a future suburb there.
- 3:19Speaker 1: I mean, there is always a lot of pushback I
- 3:21Speaker 1: think when it comes to development and land release. Lee
- 3:24Speaker 1: Point is a good example of this. Does that early
- 3:27Speaker 1: consultation try to help with avoiding situations like we've seen
- 3:31Speaker 1: at Lee Point where there's obviously still people that are
- 3:33Speaker 1: very concerned about that development going ahead.
- 3:36Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so, Katie, this is vitally important that people
- 3:40Speaker 2: have a say now because this is probably the stage
- 3:42Speaker 2: that happened in twenty fifteen at Lee Point where people
- 3:45Speaker 2: said we weren't consulted. So this is the consultation. This
- 3:49Speaker 2: is the time to have a say. So the Holts
- 3:51Speaker 2: to Elizabeth River, if you own land in that area,
- 3:55Speaker 2: if you are planning on buying land in that area
- 3:58Speaker 2: into the future, you need to have a look at
- 4:00Speaker 2: this plan. Because this plan sets out where the rail
- 4:03Speaker 2: and road corridors are going to be. So there's a
- 4:07Speaker 2: rail corridor to Glide Point. So in thirty to fifty years,
- 4:10Speaker 2: if we have a port at GlidePoint, what's the rail
- 4:13Speaker 2: corridor that we need to make sure doesn't get built on,
- 4:16Speaker 2: So we need to keep that land that rail corridor.
- 4:19Speaker 2: It looks at the future rail terminal, a future rail terminal,
- 4:23Speaker 2: so those sites at Tiffindale and Archer. It looks at
- 4:25Speaker 2: the Weddell freeway. So all of those things. If you're
- 4:29Speaker 2: thinking about one day that you want to buy land
- 4:31Speaker 2: out there, or you'll already have land out there, you
- 4:34Speaker 2: need to have a look at this document because you
- 4:36Speaker 2: need to have a say. Because, as I said with
- 4:38Speaker 2: the Lee point, but the consultation happened those years ago.
- 4:41Speaker 2: So in five or six years time or eight years
- 4:44Speaker 2: time or whatever it is, there'll be decisions made about
- 4:47Speaker 2: land use in that Holts to Elizabeth River area and
- 4:50Speaker 2: people will say I wasn't consulted. Will now's the time
- 4:53Speaker 2: to be consulted. So it's important that people do get
- 4:57Speaker 2: onto the Planning Commission website and have a say.
- 5:00Speaker 1: I'll get to that in just a second. Before we
- 5:01Speaker 1: get there, though, I know that there's also opportunities obviously
- 5:04Speaker 1: for people to have their say when it comes to
- 5:06Speaker 1: protecting the environment and the recreational value, including part of
- 5:11Speaker 1: that pine forest that's still out there at Howard Springs North.
- 5:14Speaker 1: It is an area that people seem to be quite
- 5:16Speaker 1: worried about and want to make sure is preserved, isn't it. Yeah?
- 5:20Speaker 2: Absolutely so. This is so the first stage of consultation,
- 5:24Speaker 2: the Planning Commission went out and spoke to lots of people.
- 5:26Speaker 2: There was public meetings and they have listened to that.
- 5:29Speaker 2: And so the original plan was called the Parmesan and
- 5:32Speaker 2: Environ's Plan, so number one, there was a lot of
- 5:35Speaker 2: feedback from the rural residents that they didn't like that name,
- 5:39Speaker 2: and so it's been changed to the Holts to Elizabeth
- 5:41Speaker 2: River Plan. Again, as you say around the pine forest,
- 5:45Speaker 2: doctor Richie heard loudly and clearly that that's a great
- 5:48Speaker 2: recreation area. Those green belts are needed to be maintained.
- 5:52Speaker 2: So this draft, now the middle draft in this process
- 5:55Speaker 2: before the final ones signed off, it has kept those
- 5:59Speaker 2: green creational areas, those pine forest areas. So doctor Richie
- 6:03Speaker 2: and his team have listened. But you know, if you
- 6:07Speaker 2: still want it a further say, make sure you have
- 6:09Speaker 2: a say, but definitely those recreational areas, those pine forest
- 6:12Speaker 2: areas are being maintained.
- 6:14Speaker 1: Minister, Where can people go to actually make sure that
- 6:17Speaker 1: their voices are heard? I know that a lot of
- 6:19Speaker 1: people listen to this show who do live out in
- 6:21Speaker 1: the rural area and in those areas that you've spoken about.
- 6:24Speaker 1: How can they make sure that their voices and any
- 6:26Speaker 1: concerns they might have are indeed heard.
- 6:29Speaker 2: So there's if you have got technology you can go
- 6:32Speaker 2: to have you say and that website they have, you
- 6:34Speaker 2: say an development website or the Planning Commission dot NT,
- 6:38Speaker 2: dot gov dot AU website. But also doctor Richie and
- 6:42Speaker 2: his team will be out. They'll have pop ups, they'll
- 6:44Speaker 2: be at the rural markets, they'll be out at shopping centers,
- 6:48Speaker 2: so they will make sure I think the Planning Commission
- 6:50Speaker 2: do a good job around the area planning consultation process.
- 6:54Speaker 2: They'll make sure that they're out and about and you
- 6:56Speaker 2: can have that opportunity to have a say by the
- 6:58Speaker 2: twenty sixth of November.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Now, Minister, before I let you go, we do know
- 7:02Speaker 1: that obviously the pay frees, the public service pay frese
- 7:06Speaker 1: is causing some issues at the moment. That proposal that
- 7:10Speaker 1: was put forward has now been voted down by Power
- 7:12Speaker 1: and Water and also Jacana Energy. Where to from here
- 7:17Speaker 1: with this PayPhrase?
- 7:18Speaker 2: Well, you know that this is what happens with EBA negotiations.
- 7:22Speaker 2: And I think most of us that have been around
- 7:23Speaker 2: for a while know that there's doing and throwing around
- 7:26Speaker 2: that office are made and there's backwards and forwarding. But
- 7:30Speaker 2: you know that the government has provided a thousand dollar
- 7:32Speaker 2: payment to all public servants and you know cap the
- 7:35Speaker 2: public sector wages. We understand that there are you know,
- 7:38Speaker 2: some people that are concerned about that. And then there's
- 7:42Speaker 2: been other offers around additional benefits such as holidays, things
- 7:46Speaker 2: like bad additional days relieve. But you know, that's our
- 7:49Speaker 2: bargaining policy and will continue. The Public Service Commissioner does
- 7:53Speaker 2: the bargaining on behalf of government, so those negotiations will continue.
- 7:58Speaker 2: And as I said, that's not new. We've I've seen
- 8:00Speaker 2: that over many years as a public servants for thirty years.
- 8:03Speaker 2: And I know there's been some tough EBAs with education
- 8:06Speaker 2: over the years. So that's part of the process and
- 8:08Speaker 2: that's a good part of the pro I mean, is.
- 8:10Speaker 1: It getting frustrating though, I like at the end of
- 8:12Speaker 1: the day, I know a lot of people that work
- 8:14Speaker 1: in the private sector are thinking, I wouldn't mind a
- 8:16Speaker 1: thousand dollars pay increase and an increase to my conditions.
- 8:21Speaker 2: Yeah, And as I said, but that's what and that's
- 8:24Speaker 2: what unions do. As I said, there's doing and throwing
- 8:27Speaker 2: around that. Hopefully we can get to some middle ground
- 8:30Speaker 2: around those positions. And as I said, we've seen that
- 8:33Speaker 2: in the past. And that's the role of the Commission
- 8:35Speaker 2: of Public Employment to do that. We think as a
- 8:37Speaker 2: government that was I mean, that was a recommendation out
- 8:40Speaker 2: of Angolant. We think it's a fair deal around a
- 8:43Speaker 2: thousand dollar payment to all public servants, but as I said,
- 8:47Speaker 2: that remains to be seen and that's part of the process.
- 8:49Speaker 1: Katie well evil Ala, the Minister for Infrastructure, Planning and Logistics.
- 8:53Speaker 1: We appreciate your time this morning. Thanks very much for
- 8:55Speaker 1: having a chat with me. Katie, thank you. Well you
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