Latest / Political Capital with Rob Shaw / October 23, 2026 - BC's Snap Election is (Almost) Over! | Political Capital
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Check podcasts.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Well, hey, everyone, and welcome to Political Capital, your source
- 0:15Speaker 2: for all the latest in B.C. politics. I'm your host,
- 0:17Speaker 2: Rob Shaw. The election is over. The end of what
- 0:22Speaker 2: was actually a 32-day campaign due to the snap call
- 0:26Speaker 2: from Premier David Eby, a long and at times vicious campaign.
- 0:30Speaker 2: election campaign two years early to try and reset the
- 0:35Speaker 2: table at the BC legislature from the last election. 47
- 0:39Speaker 2: seats for the NDP, 44 for the Conservatives, two for
- 0:44Speaker 2: the Greens. We'll see where those numbers land once voting
- 0:49Speaker 2: is done. We're going to bring in the pod squad Alleyblades.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Gillian Oliver, Jeff Ferrier are here like each and every week.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Let us just Take people back in time, in our
- 1:02Speaker 2: time machine that hits 60 miles per hour and goes... Anyways,
- 1:07Speaker 2: it's back to the future. But we'll go back to
- 1:09Speaker 2: the beginning of this election. Premier Eby says we need it.
- 1:13Speaker 2: We got to go early. This is why he makes
- 1:16Speaker 2: a case. Now we're at the end. Did he effectively
- 1:20Speaker 2: make that case? And how did he walk us through it,
- 1:23Speaker 2: do we think? Jeff, why don't we start with you?
- 1:26Speaker 3: So your question is, did the snap election called rationale
- 1:30Speaker 3: land with voters?
- 1:31Speaker 4: Nope.
- 1:33Speaker 3: Did not. It did not land. Uh, and I would
- 1:36Speaker 3: argue that it became the topic of conversation for the
- 1:39Speaker 3: better part of the campaign among many voters. I think
- 1:43Speaker 3: what you've seen from the NDP based on that as
- 1:45Speaker 3: a pivot, they pivoted off the Trump, uh, focused, uh,
- 1:49Speaker 3: campaign onto some combination of conservative change would be too
- 1:54Speaker 3: risky because of, uh, candidates, party chaos, and cuts. Is
- 2:01Speaker 3: that going to land in voters' hands now? We'll see
- 2:04Speaker 3: in just a few hours.
- 2:07Speaker 2: That was kind of my read, too, of it. Gillian,
- 2:10Speaker 2: do you think that's kind of what happened? And if so,
- 2:15Speaker 2: what does that mean for the NDP to have to
- 2:17Speaker 2: do those pivots and kind of work the messaging through
- 2:21Speaker 2: in different ways along the campaign?
- 2:23Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it meant that it was
- 2:25Speaker 1: really hard for anything that they did to break through
- 2:29Speaker 1: more than the sort of ire over the senselessness of
- 2:32Speaker 1: the election call itself, because they weren't able to sort
- 2:35Speaker 1: of have a consistent message.
- 2:37Speaker 4: Throughout the campaign.
- 2:38Speaker 1: And people were sort of just left asking, why didn't
- 2:42Speaker 1: you do any of these things when you were in office?
- 2:46Speaker 1: Because I think that people, you know, I think back
- 2:49Speaker 1: to EB's tone on the day of the drop, and
- 2:54Speaker 1: he would said things like, I'm asking British Columbians to
- 2:57Speaker 1: do this for me, you know, and I think it
- 2:59Speaker 1: came off as very entitled. And it just led to
- 3:03Speaker 1: this sort of almost like personal outrage and frustration with
- 3:07Speaker 1: him that you still hear as kind of top of mind.
- 3:11Speaker 3: As people are preparing to head to the polls.
- 3:14Speaker 2: Allie, what do you think?
- 3:15Speaker 4: Well, I think David Eby's calculus was that the ability
- 3:21Speaker 4: to put this forward would just last maybe like 24
- 3:23Speaker 4: hour cycle. What I mean by that is like, he
- 3:25Speaker 4: thought that everybody would forget about the snap election part
- 3:28Speaker 4: of this in a 24 hour news cycle. And then
- 3:30Speaker 4: we would move on to focus on that Trump mandate
- 3:32Speaker 4: that he was asking for, that he needed stronger representation
- 3:35Speaker 4: in the legislature in order to be able to do
- 3:38Speaker 4: what he wanted to accomplish. And then as the days
- 3:42Speaker 4: went on, that didn't really go away with, which probably
- 3:45Speaker 4: wasn't what he was thinking was going to happen. And
- 3:48Speaker 4: then as we get closer and closer to E-Day, shockingly,
- 3:52Speaker 4: what's actually happening is people wondering whether or not he
- 3:56Speaker 4: should still be the leader of the NDP. Like I'm
- 3:59Speaker 4: hearing some divides from within the House and people are
- 4:04Speaker 4: thinking about already which force am I going to back
- 4:07Speaker 4: in this upcoming leadership race, strategic voting from longtime NDP members.
- 4:14Speaker 4: Like this is not at all what he had anticipated.
- 4:17Speaker 4: And in fact, it's going quite the opposite.
- 4:21Speaker 2: I will say, I think to throw my own opinion
- 4:22Speaker 2: in here, if he does not achieve at least a
- 4:25Speaker 2: four seat majority from the electorate, his time as premier
- 4:29Speaker 2: is done. If he comes back with a minority or
- 4:32Speaker 2: a small majority after all of that, I agree with you.
- 4:35Speaker 2: I think the knives will be out for him in
- 4:36Speaker 2: the party. And obviously if he loses, more than likely
- 4:39Speaker 2: he would have to resign versus staying as opposition leader.
- 4:43Speaker 2: But a big gamble by the premier. Let's pivot and
- 4:46Speaker 2: then talk about the Conservatives. I mean, it feels like
- 4:48Speaker 2: a lifetime ago that Kerry Lynn Finlay quit or was
- 4:52Speaker 2: pushed out as leader of that party. It was only
- 4:53Speaker 2: like 30 some odd days ago. Lauren Dirksen, a man
- 4:57Speaker 2: out of nowhere, becomes leader of the Conservatives 24 hours
- 5:02Speaker 2: before the snap election is called. A campaign is scrambled together.
- 5:07Speaker 2: What did we see and think of the Conservative campaign
- 5:10Speaker 2: as it went along? And now at the end, Where
- 5:13Speaker 2: did it land and not land, Jeff, in the job
- 5:16Speaker 2: that it did?
- 5:17Speaker 3: Well, I think the Conservatives stand at the edge of
- 5:20Speaker 3: forming a government. I think they ran a campaign that
- 5:26Speaker 3: pivoted away. We say pivot a lot, but that's what
- 5:28Speaker 3: you do during campaigns, facing conditions that change during campaign.
- 5:32Speaker 3: They pivoted away from some of the chaos you saw
- 5:36Speaker 3: under Carolyn Finlay, the former leader, and they put Lauren
- 5:39Speaker 3: Derpson in the window as a stable.
- 5:43Speaker 3: Steadying influence. And I think that connected with some voters.
- 5:48Speaker 3: I think the challenge for them today on election day
- 5:52Speaker 3: is if people who are, you know, I'm upset with
- 5:57Speaker 3: the NDP for calling this election early. I think I
- 6:00Speaker 3: want change from the way things are going is, are
- 6:04Speaker 3: they going to say, is this change too risky? Is
- 6:07Speaker 3: it something that at the end of the day, when
- 6:11Speaker 3: I've made all my decisions and I'm in my ballot box,
- 6:14Speaker 3: is it too risky? And again, it's in their hands
- 6:17Speaker 3: and we'll see where it lands.
- 6:20Speaker 2: Ali, what do you think of that too risky? It's
- 6:22Speaker 2: kind of the core of the counter from the NDP
- 6:25Speaker 2: and it was in 2024 as well. And it worked
- 6:27Speaker 2: just enough at the last moment for voters to kind
- 6:30Speaker 2: of seize up from giving the conservatives power. Has it
- 6:34Speaker 2: looking like it's working this time? And what's the campaign
- 6:37Speaker 2: been like in your mind?
- 6:38Speaker 4: Been here, done that. We experienced that in 2024, where
- 6:43Speaker 4: it's exactly that message that Jeff was sharing, that the
- 6:46Speaker 4: Conservative vote would be too risky. And at the time,
- 6:49Speaker 4: it was different circumstances. It was a brand new party.
- 6:52Speaker 4: But the Conservatives were a decent opposition in the legislature,
- 6:59Speaker 4: like they would put David Eby on his toes. And
- 7:03Speaker 4: so It's not as if we are an unknown group now.
- 7:08Speaker 4: We've put forward ideas. We've put forward a platform. And
- 7:13Speaker 4: it's not the same calculus that you could define the
- 7:17Speaker 4: Conservatives in 2024.
- 7:20Speaker 2: You've been working on the Conservative campaign, Ali. How extraordinary
- 7:26Speaker 2: has it been to cobble this thing together on the fly?
- 7:29Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness.
- 7:30Speaker 1: And.
- 7:31Speaker 4: You sometimes forget just how quickly this was put together
- 7:36Speaker 4: and how even we had a different leader 40 days ago.
- 7:40Speaker 4: I forget this constantly because we just move forward, move forward.
- 7:46Speaker 4: Just like I forget about Centre BC every single day.
- 7:50Speaker 4: I was reminded that we do actually have some Centre
- 7:54Speaker 4: BC candidates in some ridings and it's not potentially going
- 7:57Speaker 4: to be an issue. But I'm pretty sure everybody else
- 8:00Speaker 4: forgot about them too.
- 8:01Speaker 2: Yeah, some ridings like Surrey South, we're going to be
- 8:03Speaker 2: watching to see Eleanor Sturckow, Centre BC leader's impact on
- 8:07Speaker 2: the race. We'll talk about that after the break. Jillian,
- 8:10Speaker 2: the Conservatives, your view of their campaign?
- 8:13Speaker 1: Well, they played it super, super safe in this final
- 8:16Speaker 1: home stretch. Dirksen hasn't done a lot of interviews. He
- 8:19Speaker 1: hasn't even really been responding to a ton of media questions.
- 8:22Speaker 1: They didn't release their full platform until after the debate,
- 8:24Speaker 1: which is really unusual. I can't remember exactly. that ever
- 8:28Speaker 1: happening before in any election that I've worked for. They
- 8:30Speaker 1: turfed a few controversial candidates, but only in ridings that
- 8:33Speaker 1: they couldn't win, really trying to keep that caucus together,
- 8:38Speaker 1: kind of clamp down on controversy by staying quiet. They
- 8:42Speaker 1: didn't respond to it a ton when things came up
- 8:45Speaker 1: and just tried to play it super, super safe. And
- 8:48Speaker 1: I think that really speaks to the remarkable impact centralization
- 8:52Speaker 1: of power that happened within the campaign. I mean, that's
- 8:55Speaker 1: been really remarkable. When we think back to the chaos,
- 8:58Speaker 1: there was like a bunch of MLAs that were going
- 9:00Speaker 1: to run with Centre BC and even one that was
- 9:02Speaker 1: going to lead it just days before the election. I
- 9:05Speaker 1: didn't see that coming. And I think that that probably
- 9:08Speaker 1: is giving voters some more assurance that they are a
- 9:11Speaker 1: little bit more organized than they were last time. We'll
- 9:15Speaker 1: see if they do form government, if they're able to
- 9:16Speaker 1: kind of keep it together. I think that sometimes crisis
- 9:20Speaker 1: can have everybody come together. If we think back to
- 9:22Speaker 1: like those early days of COVID and everybody's banging on
- 9:24Speaker 1: the pots, the conservatives are kind of in that phase
- 9:27Speaker 1: right now with their own crisis management.
- 9:29Speaker 2: But yeah, it's.
- 9:30Speaker 1: Been a safe kind of well, pretty well run campaign
- 9:35Speaker 1: given the circumstances.
- 9:37Speaker 2: I describe it as a professional, safe, cautious campaign. That
- 9:42Speaker 2: old adage in politics that When a government is falling
- 9:46Speaker 2: or appears to be falling, sometimes the best thing an
- 9:48Speaker 2: opposition can do is just get out of the way.
- 9:50Speaker 2: And that may or may not be the story of
- 9:53Speaker 2: this election once we see what voters decide. Okay, let's
- 9:56Speaker 2: take a quick break. When we come back, we'll talk
- 9:57Speaker 2: about the Greens and some of the other dynamics. at play. Well,
- 10:01Speaker 2: it was the first election for BC Green leader Emily Lowen,
- 10:05Speaker 2: and the Greens ran a campaign that looks like it
- 10:08Speaker 2: has some momentum behind it as it reaches the final stretch. Jillian,
- 10:13Speaker 2: the polls indicate. which seemed to indicate the Greens have
- 10:16Speaker 2: done pretty well here. We see the NDP in the
- 10:18Speaker 2: final days urging people not to vote Green to split
- 10:21Speaker 2: the vote. What do you make of how the Green
- 10:23Speaker 2: campaign evolved and went during this race?
- 10:28Speaker 1: Well, you know, Lohan only became leader a year ago.
- 10:30Speaker 1: So in a lot of ways, she's the most recently
- 10:32Speaker 1: practiced at running a campaign. And I think that we've
- 10:35Speaker 1: kind of seen that, like that she sort of never
- 10:38Speaker 1: left campaign mode since she won the leadership campaign. I
- 10:42Speaker 1: think that the Greens came into this election also best
- 10:46Speaker 1: position than they ever have to pick up disillusioned progressive voters,
- 10:49Speaker 1: because we've seen the NDP break so many promises on
- 10:52Speaker 1: the progressive side, whether that's continuing to log old growth
- 10:55Speaker 1: or freezing $ 10 a day childcare. So there were so
- 10:58Speaker 1: many issues that the Greens could really own that the
- 11:01Speaker 1: other parties just weren't talking about, because they promised to
- 11:06Speaker 1: pay for it with this massive wealth tax. And I
- 11:08Speaker 1: think early in the campaign, they also didn't face a
- 11:11Speaker 1: lot of scrutiny on their policies because they were polling
- 11:13Speaker 1: more in like the single digits. And this bump has
- 11:15Speaker 1: kind of come after a relatively strong debate performance where
- 11:19Speaker 1: you had the other two leaders like quibbling over social
- 11:24Speaker 1: media posts and Loewen continuing to talk about the issues
- 11:27Speaker 1: and kind of just looking like a bit of like
- 11:30Speaker 1: much needed refreshment that I think has been really appealing
- 11:33Speaker 1: to voters when the mood of this election is just
- 11:36Speaker 1: that people are just, of so much politics and so
- 11:39Speaker 1: much status quo politics. The vote-splitting strategy is something that
- 11:46Speaker 1: the NDP has trotted out every election. They're going really,
- 11:49Speaker 1: really hard on it right now, which I think speaks
- 11:51Speaker 1: to how concerned they are about losing some of their
- 11:55Speaker 1: key ridings. There's a lot of ridings in the province
- 11:59Speaker 1: where the Greens come second to the NDP. Those are
- 12:02Speaker 1: the ones that Lowen is really targeting, going after younger voters,
- 12:05Speaker 1: going after working-class voters. especially on Southern Vancouver Island. So
- 12:09Speaker 1: it's going to be really interesting to see if those
- 12:12Speaker 1: sort of like vote splitting fears are still effective. Usually
- 12:16Speaker 1: we see the green election result drop a little bit
- 12:20Speaker 1: from the polling, partially because they don't run a full slate,
- 12:22Speaker 1: but also partially because of those like kind of fear-based
- 12:25Speaker 1: votes switching at the last time. But I think like
- 12:28Speaker 1: the disillusionment and distrust from progressive voters with the NDP
- 12:31Speaker 1: is at an all-time high compared to the last decade.
- 12:34Speaker 1: So I think that the Green vote might be a
- 12:37Speaker 1: little bit stickier than it has been in the past.
- 12:39Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 12:40Speaker 2: Ali, why don't we bring in 1BC and CentreBC as
- 12:43Speaker 2: well and just give me your thoughts on all those
- 12:45Speaker 2: three campaigns. They are different because the Greens ran 70-some-odd candidates.
- 12:48Speaker 2: CentreBC and 1BC only ran in the 30s. I was
- 12:51Speaker 2: surprised CentreBC kept running a campaign that talked about what
- 12:55Speaker 2: they would do when they formed government, which is impossible
- 12:58Speaker 2: with the number of candidates that they ran. But Eleanor Sturckow,
- 13:01Speaker 2: a formidable legislator... What did you make of all three campaigns?
- 13:06Speaker 4: When we talk about pivoting so much on this show,
- 13:08Speaker 4: like that is a pivot that it might actually cost
- 13:12Speaker 4: the center, B.C., any sort of being able to show
- 13:16Speaker 4: up in any sort of real way on the election
- 13:19Speaker 4: night results. And that's coming in second or third because
- 13:24Speaker 4: I don't think that they have done a good enough
- 13:27Speaker 4: campaign yet. they're not going to win any ridings. So
- 13:30Speaker 4: then it turns into, well, how close did they potentially
- 13:33Speaker 4: get to winning any riding? And I don't think that
- 13:36Speaker 4: that's going to happen either, because exactly that, they never
- 13:39Speaker 4: truly pivoted away from that messaging. This is interesting, this
- 13:45Speaker 4: vote split on the center right, because it's not completely
- 13:49Speaker 4: new to us in that we had a ton of
- 13:52Speaker 4: independent candidates run in the last election, but they were
- 13:56Speaker 4: just under their own individual campaigns versus now under one
- 14:01Speaker 4: umbrella with Centre and then with Dallas Brody for 1BC.
- 14:08Speaker 4: Like Kulshana is an interesting one to watch potentially for
- 14:12Speaker 4: this campaign because there was a recall campaign as well
- 14:16Speaker 4: in Kulshana. And so there was a lot of attention
- 14:19Speaker 4: already on getting rid of her. So I wonder if
- 14:23Speaker 4: her efforts, basically just campaigning, in Kulshana and Penticton will
- 14:29Speaker 4: produce anything at all.
- 14:32Speaker 2: It'll be fascinating to watch. Jeff, the Greens, 1BC, Centre BC,
- 14:36Speaker 2: anything stand out for you there?
- 14:37Speaker 3: Yeah, I think with respect to all of those parties,
- 14:41Speaker 3: with the exception of a couple of write-ins, these are
- 14:44Speaker 3: going to be spoilers in a broader election of two
- 14:48Speaker 3: parties that are best positioned to form government. And I'm
- 14:52Speaker 3: not saying that that's the way it ought to be.
- 14:54Speaker 3: I'm I'm very sympathetic towards Greens. My entry into politics
- 14:59Speaker 3: was in Ontario where I was third party. And I
- 15:01Speaker 3: remember saying, vote with your conscience, vote for what you
- 15:04Speaker 3: believe in. And I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
- 15:07Speaker 3: I just think that in all of these races, it
- 15:12Speaker 3: will result potentially in a shift of votes away from
- 15:15Speaker 3: one of the parties that could form government and have
- 15:17Speaker 3: an impact on election day there. I think we saw
- 15:20Speaker 3: something really interesting in Vancouver this last campaign where progressives
- 15:24Speaker 3: came together ahead of the campaign and said, we see
- 15:28Speaker 3: a risk here of another party forming government and we
- 15:32Speaker 3: can't have proportional representation because people won't go for that,
- 15:35Speaker 3: but maybe there's an opportunity for us in a more
- 15:37Speaker 3: formal way to work together, to pick some ridings where
- 15:42Speaker 3: one party stands in and other ridings where the other
- 15:45Speaker 3: party stands in. And if that were to happen, we
- 15:48Speaker 3: might have a different result than we will likely see
- 15:51Speaker 3: on election night. And it's something that I think that
- 15:54Speaker 3: the two parties ought to have grown up conversation about
- 15:57Speaker 3: and consider.
- 15:58Speaker 2: You have a long, complicated history, the Greens and the
- 16:00Speaker 2: NDP from cooperation and tumult. I think tumult is a word, tumultuous,
- 16:05Speaker 2: the source of, anyways, there's a conversation that could be
- 16:08Speaker 2: had there, but we'll see if it happens after the election. Okay,
- 16:11Speaker 2: we're going to take a break. When we come back,
- 16:12Speaker 2: we'll talk about the, maybe the possible outcomes and what
- 16:15Speaker 2: they would mean to this election campaign. But welcome back
- 16:18Speaker 2: as we're closing out this BC election campaign. We're going
- 16:22Speaker 2: to go around again to our panel just to ask
- 16:24Speaker 2: about any surprises, anything that stood out for you in
- 16:27Speaker 2: this campaign you weren't expecting that may or may not
- 16:30Speaker 2: have changed the dynamic of this race. Ellie, why don't
- 16:34Speaker 2: we start with you? Any surprises you'll think back on
- 16:37Speaker 2: fondly or not so fondly in this campaign?
- 16:39Speaker 4: This whole thing has been a surprise.
- 16:41Speaker 2: No one had planned for this whatsoever.
- 16:45Speaker 4: So, I mean, that big one, the fact that we're
- 16:48Speaker 4: even here in the first place, specifically on the timing,
- 16:51Speaker 4: like I think there was always this aura of a
- 16:55Speaker 4: potential snap election, especially with the previous conservative leader when
- 17:00Speaker 4: she was in that position. But David Ipiz never really
- 17:05Speaker 4: had the right timing on these things. He's been criticized
- 17:08Speaker 4: by that from his own membership even before. when he
- 17:11Speaker 4: should have called a snap election, but he didn't. And
- 17:14Speaker 4: then here we are again, and now his future in
- 17:16Speaker 4: politics is at jeopardy for it. And so this whole
- 17:19Speaker 4: kit and caboodle is a surprise. Jeff?
- 17:23Speaker 3: I didn't have it on my bingo card that the
- 17:25Speaker 3: Conservatives will lose a candidate because they thought that Adolf
- 17:28Speaker 3: Hitler's record was misunderstood. I think the bigger surprise, though,
- 17:33Speaker 3: is just the staying power of the, we're upset with
- 17:36Speaker 3: the snap election call. That That kind of anger typically
- 17:41Speaker 3: in campaigns like this one will last for a few
- 17:44Speaker 3: days or maybe a week. This time it seems to
- 17:46Speaker 3: have carried over enough that, as we mentioned off the
- 17:49Speaker 3: top of the show, that the NDPs had to pivot
- 17:51Speaker 3: to a different ballot question around risky change versus sticking
- 17:57Speaker 3: with the folks you know. And so, yeah, those are
- 18:03Speaker 3: my surprises.
- 18:05Speaker 2: Gillian, surprises?
- 18:07Speaker 1: I think, you know, having campaigned against a strong NDP
- 18:12Speaker 1: so many times, I've been really surprised at their inability
- 18:14Speaker 1: to sort of like have a clear narrative and a
- 18:18Speaker 1: clear message. Especially, I was thinking back to the, they
- 18:22Speaker 1: thought that they had an early win with getting the
- 18:24Speaker 1: phase two LNG Canada award. investment but instead of sort
- 18:28Speaker 1: of sticking with that strategy the next week they pivoted
- 18:31Speaker 1: or even just a few days later pivoted to like
- 18:32Speaker 1: an economic populist message standing out of side of Save
- 18:35Speaker 1: On Foods talking about price gouging and I think it
- 18:38Speaker 1: really just I mean it reminds me of the Adrian
- 18:40Speaker 1: Diggs Weathervane ad from 2013 where they just seem kind
- 18:45Speaker 1: of lost and it's been surprising to me when the
- 18:47Speaker 1: NDP has had such a strong brand for the past
- 18:50Speaker 1: decade how it's kind of just collapsed and they've been
- 18:52Speaker 1: unable to tell a consistent story.
- 18:55Speaker 2: I was a little surprised by, to be honest with you,
- 18:58Speaker 2: the fact that Trump narrative fell so flat because it
- 19:02Speaker 2: had been David Eby's most popular moment to fight Trump.
- 19:06Speaker 2: And I thought he might be able to ride it
- 19:07Speaker 2: for longer than he did, hug the flag and all that.
- 19:10Speaker 2: And it just evaporated almost instantly upon contact with the
- 19:14Speaker 2: real world. And also the municipal elections and the anger
- 19:19Speaker 2: that I think municipal candidates took to the doorstep with them,
- 19:22Speaker 2: regardless of their political stripe, that they had been big-footed
- 19:25Speaker 2: by this provincial government. They became a kind of guerrilla
- 19:28Speaker 2: grumble campaign against the NDP at the doorstep. It was interesting,
- 19:34Speaker 2: but it's a fascinating dynamic. I'm just going to mention
- 19:38Speaker 2: a couple of ridings to keep an eye on, and
- 19:40Speaker 2: anyone can jump in if I'm missing anything here. There
- 19:43Speaker 2: are so many. I think you have to look at
- 19:44Speaker 2: all of Surrey when you're looking for results that may
- 19:48Speaker 2: be at play in this election. That's the battleground, 10
- 19:51Speaker 2: seats there, and many of them are up for grabs
- 19:54Speaker 2: at this point. We're mentioning Vancouver Colchena, whether Dallas Brody
- 19:58Speaker 2: can survive. We're looking at Oak Bay Gordon Head, where
- 20:01Speaker 2: Andrew Weaver has returned to politics, but for Centre BC
- 20:04Speaker 2: and how that changes things. The dynamic of an NDP
- 20:07Speaker 2: seat there. We're looking at Surrey South with Eleanor Sturco
- 20:10Speaker 2: on the paper. Centre BC, but a strong Conservative candidate
- 20:14Speaker 2: and a riding that was very strong for the Conservatives
- 20:17Speaker 2: in the last election. Kelowna Centre that the NDP really
- 20:21Speaker 2: wants to pick up. And if they're going to start
- 20:22Speaker 2: growing their majority, they need to win ridings like Kelowna Centre. And,
- 20:28Speaker 2: you know, I mean, we can go on and on.
- 20:30Speaker 2: Courtney Comox. Tight riding with different dynamics in the greens
- 20:34Speaker 2: at play there. The Conservatives wanting to hold that. Saanich
- 20:37Speaker 2: North in the islands. Can Emily Lowen get that over
- 20:40Speaker 2: the finish line, keep it green?
- 20:42Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 20:43Speaker 2: There's so many. It's on election night, and the conversation
- 20:47Speaker 2: we're going to have, there are so many ridings at play,
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- 21:11Speaker 1: And get out and vote.
- 21:11Speaker 3: Get out and vote.
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