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- 0:00Speaker 1: And we're all counting down together. We're going to do
- 0:02Speaker 1: this together as a country. We are now three weeks
- 0:05Speaker 1: out from this big midterm election day. We will also
- 0:09Speaker 1: track what happens as we get there, because while we
- 0:12Speaker 1: all talk about an election day and that's when most
- 0:14Speaker 1: people vote, we have many methods to vote earlier than
- 0:17Speaker 1: that these days, even if the government at times has
- 0:20Speaker 1: tried to interfere. But that's going on a pace regardless
- 0:23Speaker 1: of what Donald Trump wanted. And I can tell you
- 0:25Speaker 1: tonight about three million Americans have already cast their vote early.
- 0:29Speaker 1: President Trump has spent the time that he has left
- 0:32Speaker 1: trying to reverse what it looks like, a pretty overwhelming
- 0:37Speaker 1: revulsion against his agenda. And that has him basically campaigning
- 0:42Speaker 1: in what they used to call red or safe areas
- 0:45Speaker 1: that may not be safe or red for the Republican Party. Ohio, Alaska, Iowa,
- 0:51Speaker 1: which Trump officials view as one of the last bricks
- 0:54Speaker 1: in their supposed red wall for the Senate campaign.
- 0:58Speaker 2: They may indeed.
- 0:58Speaker 1: Hold the Senate because unlike the House, it's not a
- 1:00Speaker 1: national election, but they are nervous. They are playing defense
- 1:04Speaker 1: by one simple measure that you don't have to be
- 1:06Speaker 1: a super political nerd to follow. The last time we
- 1:09Speaker 1: had a federal election, which was, of course, just over
- 1:12Speaker 1: two years ago, right? November 2024. Every state I just
- 1:16Speaker 1: mentioned where Trump is campaigning, he didn't just win. He
- 1:19Speaker 1: won decisively by double digits. Now they're worried about losing
- 1:22Speaker 1: those states.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Trump.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Is taking a long flight, however comfortable it may be
- 1:27Speaker 1: on government aircraft.
- 1:28Speaker 2: It's still over.
- 1:29Speaker 1: 3,000 miles to get to Alaska, a very Republican, very
- 1:34Speaker 1: red place, where he is campaigning on defense because voters
- 1:39Speaker 1: there who habitually vote Republican, no matter what's going on
- 1:42Speaker 1: in politics or the economy, some are considering rejecting that
- 1:46Speaker 1: norm as they face what is clearly a Trump slump.
- 1:50Speaker 1: 40% of households there cannot make ends meet, according to
- 1:54Speaker 1: one accounting. Gas prices are about five bucks a gallon.
- 1:59Speaker 1: That's above the national average. Alaska, as we all kind
- 2:02Speaker 1: of know, whether you've thought about it much, is a
- 2:04Speaker 1: pretty broad, big state.
- 2:07Speaker 2: So people drive around more.
- 2:09Speaker 1: This is not some, you know, city where everyone's camped
- 2:12Speaker 1: out or catching an occasional Uber. So the gas prices
- 2:15Speaker 1: are hurting. People know it's from the war that Trump started.
- 2:17Speaker 1: And his second term low has crashed dramatically. to 30%.
- 2:23Speaker 1: So if you are polling at 30, there is a
- 2:25Speaker 1: question about whether showing up even helps at all. But
- 2:28Speaker 1: this is a president who has not exactly coordinated with
- 2:31Speaker 1: great humility when it comes to what might be best
- 2:33Speaker 1: for Republicans who are trying to save their seats because
- 2:37Speaker 1: in part of him, and of course themselves, since they
- 2:40Speaker 1: have been a blank check for everything, including the war.
- 2:43Speaker 1: And over in high stakes races like Georgia and Minnesota,
- 2:46Speaker 1: we've had debates about Vice President and Speaker Mike Johnson,
- 2:51Speaker 1: discussing what everyone already knows, which is that the Republican
- 2:54Speaker 1: Party is in trouble. Acknowledging those doubts may sound more
- 2:58Speaker 1: rational than pretending they don't exist. We know that we're
- 3:03Speaker 1: swimming against some serious historical trends here.
- 3:06Speaker 3: Everybody's frustrated about fuel prices, obviously, but that's not related
- 3:09Speaker 3: to policies.
- 3:09Speaker 2: It's not related to the Republicans in office.
- 3:11Speaker 1: It's hard to make that case, though, to a voter
- 3:13Speaker 1: who knows Republicans are running the House and the Senate
- 3:16Speaker 1: and the White House.
- 3:16Speaker 2: We know that we're swimming upstream.
- 3:20Speaker 1: They know they're going upstream and they have reached the
- 3:22Speaker 1: point of desperation where acknowledging bad reality might help more
- 3:27Speaker 1: than angering people, including people in these red states, by
- 3:31Speaker 1: lying about reality. And this is a president who has
- 3:34Speaker 1: been caught lying in public more than any other official,
- 3:37Speaker 1: living or dead, by all accounts. The Washington Post has
- 3:40Speaker 1: led that process with accounting of all of Trump's lies.
- 3:43Speaker 2: So, yes, it may be a low bar, but it reminds.
- 3:46Speaker 1: You that even against that backdrop, Vance, the Speaker, and
- 3:50Speaker 1: others are saying, let's not lie about it anymore. Let's
- 3:52Speaker 1: acknowledge how bad the economy is. Then part two, you
- 3:55Speaker 1: heard the Speaker claim that it has nothing to do
- 3:57Speaker 1: with policy.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Well, fact check, false.
- 4:00Speaker 1: The tariffs and the war very directly made the economy
- 4:04Speaker 1: and prices worse.
- 4:05Speaker 2: And most people know that.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Whether or not everyone agrees on that is how politics works,
- 4:11Speaker 1: because there will be a debate in the coming weeks
- 4:12Speaker 1: about how much that's the Republicans' fault, whether they can
- 4:15Speaker 1: scare people about the alternatives. There may be Republican voters,
- 4:18Speaker 1: for example, who say they do think the war made
- 4:20Speaker 1: it worse, but they don't vote Democrat. But either way,
- 4:23Speaker 1: we are looking at the sort of reality coping phase
- 4:26Speaker 1: of an uphill battle for Republicans on defense in red states. Now,
- 4:31Speaker 1: while Trump tries to deal with all that, he has
- 4:33Speaker 1: the other wider scandals at home, including his rampant corruption
- 4:37Speaker 1: that has emanated from him and his family out to
- 4:40Speaker 1: other officials. And tonight I want to report on a
- 4:42Speaker 1: story that shows you facts and reporting still matter, although
- 4:46Speaker 1: it depends how high you go up the chain. Because
- 4:50Speaker 1: Kimberly Guilfoyle, you may have heard of, a one-time Democratic
- 4:53Speaker 1: figure who then became a Fox figure and a MAGA
- 4:56Speaker 1: insider and was serving in this administration as a very
- 4:59Speaker 1: Trumpy person, is out today. Under pressure and under corruption allegations,
- 5:05Speaker 1: she resigned from her post as U.S.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Ambassador to Greece.
- 5:09Speaker 1: And this is because of evidence and facts reported by,
- 5:13Speaker 1: of all places, the Rupert Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal about
- 5:17Speaker 1: receipts and evidence that suggested she might have been misusing
- 5:20Speaker 1: her position and even potentially supplying evidence of a crime
- 5:25Speaker 1: if the current DOJ were to investigate it, or maybe
- 5:27Speaker 1: a later one. If you've been busy and haven't followed,
- 5:30Speaker 1: the revelations came out last week, first from the journal,
- 5:33Speaker 1: that she was pressuring a MAGA donor to wire her $ 100, 000,
- 5:36Speaker 1: that she was doing this secretly, furtively. We should note
- 5:40Speaker 1: that she denies any wrongdoing. The journal reported, though, that
- 5:43Speaker 1: she was also boasting of her apparent grifts because she's
- 5:47Speaker 1: a government employee, your tax dollars paying her salary.
- 5:51Speaker 2: Ambassadors have a wide range.
- 5:53Speaker 1: Circle of support, a retinue of aides, also paid by
- 5:56Speaker 1: your tax dollars from the U.S. State Department, and yet
- 5:58Speaker 1: she still was getting, she boasted, free luxury trips, private
- 6:01Speaker 1: jet flights from Greek tycoons, the type of people who
- 6:06Speaker 1: are affiliated with, again, the country she's supposed to be
- 6:08Speaker 1: doing U.S.
- 6:09Speaker 2: Ambassadorship towards, not being on the take from them.
- 6:13Speaker 1: The State Department asserts that that's unsubstantiated, and they claim
- 6:17Speaker 1: she followed ethics guidelines. But the journal's reporting, including the
- 6:22Speaker 1: her own communications suggest otherwise. Now, Guilfoyle is out, and
- 6:27Speaker 1: those are serious allegations of misconduct backed by evidence.
- 6:32Speaker 2: And yet that's part one.
- 6:34Speaker 1: Part two is that this is, in terms of scale
- 6:39Speaker 1: and seniority, one of the more minor pieces of evidence
- 6:44Speaker 1: of corruption in Donald Trump's administration and a Republican party
- 6:48Speaker 1: that backs him basically all the time. Because we've seen
- 6:51Speaker 1: alleged corruption by the president and his family, self-dealing, profiteering, crypto,
- 6:57Speaker 1: a giant double standard. The headlines have been really dominant
- 7:03Speaker 1: the whole two years of this administration. And it's that
- 7:08Speaker 1: double standard that we turn to with our guest, Howard Dean, who,
- 7:11Speaker 1: of course, was a Vermont governor, doctor, ran for president
- 7:15Speaker 1: and chaired the DNC.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Welcome back, Governor. Thanks for having me.
- 7:20Speaker 1: We were talking about this with our colleagues and journalists
- 7:23Speaker 1: on this program today, and I kind of want to
- 7:26Speaker 1: take that off-air conversation and bring it to you on air,
- 7:29Speaker 1: because it seems like a story where both things are true.
- 7:32Speaker 2: The evidence and reporting matters. Trump, Guilfoyle, others claim it doesn't.
- 7:38Speaker 1: They kind of want to lie or gaslight to the country,
- 7:39Speaker 1: and yet it did matter today, and we could discuss
- 7:42Speaker 1: the political reasons that may be. And yet at the
- 7:45Speaker 1: same time, the president and his family stands accused of
- 7:49Speaker 1: greater conflicts greater self-enrichment, and it would be up to
- 7:53Speaker 1: probably the voters to say whether that matters. How do
- 7:55Speaker 1: you feel about sort of that two-sided story tonight?
- 7:59Speaker 2: It's been interesting.
- 8:00Speaker 3: I once saw a cartoon with a picture of Nixon
- 8:04Speaker 3: with his five o'clock shadow saying, I am not a crook.
- 8:07Speaker 3: And then the next panel over was Trump saying, I'm
- 8:09Speaker 3: a crook, so what? So things have changed a little
- 8:14Speaker 3: since Dick Nixon resigned from office. I think that people
- 8:19Speaker 3: do believe that Trump is corrupt and they gave him
- 8:22Speaker 3: a pass on that for quite a while. But now
- 8:26Speaker 3: his activities and his family's activities, not to mention the
- 8:30Speaker 3: other things like the war, have really caused pain for
- 8:34Speaker 3: American consumers. And I think that's that's really gotten their attention.
- 8:39Speaker 3: Ordinary Americans, unfortunately, will tolerate a lot in government malfeasance.
- 8:46Speaker 3: But if it affects their own pocketbooks and their kids' opportunities,
- 8:51Speaker 3: that's the end of that tolerance. And I think we've
- 8:53Speaker 3: gotten to that point in this country. His numbers are
- 8:55Speaker 3: just incredible. And corruption is actually rising as an area
- 9:00Speaker 3: of concern about Trump's and his family's behavior.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wonder about that because it really cuts
- 9:08Speaker 1: deeper to what Americans think of what we used to
- 9:11Speaker 1: call the system.
- 9:13Speaker 2: You know, Howard, I.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Don't know if you're old enough to remember, but that's
- 9:16Speaker 1: what they used to call it, the system, man. And
- 9:18Speaker 1: that's sort of the political capitalist whole, the whole way
- 9:23Speaker 1: it works.
- 9:24Speaker 2: And whether it's on the level of fair.
- 9:26Speaker 1: And I don't think liberals or Democrats have a monopoly
- 9:29Speaker 1: on this, but I do think in the recent era,
- 9:32Speaker 1: if we look at it fairly... It has been liberal
- 9:37Speaker 1: voices on the Democratic Party and to the left of
- 9:39Speaker 1: the party saying this now for years. And it seems
- 9:41Speaker 1: that they've found support, as you mentioned, in a tough
- 9:44Speaker 1: climate from the center, from part of the right, from
- 9:47Speaker 1: people who in at least one side of the last
- 9:50Speaker 1: three elections voted for Trump. And now we're saying, hey,
- 9:53Speaker 1: if this thing is this rigged and these guys are
- 9:55Speaker 1: this greedy and they want to slam a data center
- 9:57Speaker 1: in my backyard and they want to take my job.
- 10:00Speaker 1: this actually is the number one issue for a lot
- 10:02Speaker 1: of people.
- 10:03Speaker 2: Your view of that possible shift?
- 10:06Speaker 3: I think that's true, but I also think there's a
- 10:08Speaker 3: lot more to it. I was reading a whole lot
- 10:11Speaker 3: of stuff today about the Latino vote, and Latinos in
- 10:14Speaker 3: Texas are really upset. I mean, I think there's a
- 10:16Speaker 3: pretty good chance that Abbott loses and that Tallarico is
- 10:19Speaker 3: the next senator, and the Democrats have run good campaigns,
- 10:24Speaker 3: but the real reason is Latinos suddenly discovered that they
- 10:28Speaker 3: didn't like their fellow Latinos beaten up and escorted and
- 10:33Speaker 3: starved and, you know, in these centers that they get
- 10:37Speaker 3: stuck in or their children.
- 10:39Speaker 2: It's just it's just plus.
- 10:42Speaker 3: Now they've gotten the attention because they have high gas
- 10:45Speaker 3: prices and they can't find decent jobs and data centers
- 10:48Speaker 3: are going in the backyard.
- 10:50Speaker 2: It's just it's just it's a mess.
- 10:53Speaker 3: And it's become obvious to the American people that it's
- 10:55Speaker 3: a mess and it's not going to get better. And
- 10:57Speaker 3: the Republicans, the interesting thing about this is the Republicans don't.
- 11:01Speaker 3: Started too late. The ones that do have some backbone
- 11:04Speaker 3: and they're one or two that have a few vertebrae anyway,
- 11:08Speaker 3: it's too late. And so they're going to get washed
- 11:11Speaker 3: out along with the people who've always done everything Trump
- 11:16Speaker 3: asked for.
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