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  Speaker 1: East, the Gold Reform it welcome to the show. Tonight
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  Speaker 1: Pro Palestine protests dressed like terrorists at Parliament House show
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  Speaker 1: they're really against Australia. I don't think politicians get this.
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: The pressure from extremists like these have just made the
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  Speaker 1: Albanezer government insult Israel and its ambassador again. Also tonight
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: with the fashions at last night's Camera and Midwinter Ball,
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: tell us about our politicians to fashionistas unleash. This should
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  Speaker 1: be fun and revealing. We'll also have Barnaby Joyce. The
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  Speaker 1: early signs of Britain votes Whisky of the Week add
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  Speaker 1: more embarrassment. By the way, for the global warming experts
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  Speaker 1: of the Bureau of Meteorology, which predicted a warm winter,
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  Speaker 1: got a shock. But first, Wislim Senator Fatima Payment today
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  Speaker 1: quit Labor, the party that got her elected, and she'll
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  Speaker 1: now sit as an independent for now, and Australian politics
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  Speaker 1: just got more dangerous.
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  Speaker 2: The ongoing genocide in Gaza is a tragedy of unimaginable proportions.
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  Speaker 2: It is a crisis that pieces the heart and soul.
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  Speaker 2: Witnessing our government's indifference to the greatest injustice of our
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  Speaker 2: times makes me question the direction the party is taking. Sadly,
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  Speaker 2: I do not believe our principles align with those of
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  Speaker 2: the leadership of the Labor Party. With a heavy heart
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  Speaker 2: but a clear conscience, I announced my resignation from the
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  Speaker 2: Australian Labor Party.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Now, some of Payment's colleagues claim she told them
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  Speaker 1: are decisions I'm backing per Stone above Labor, et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: They were guided by God or Allah and that she
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  Speaker 1: or that she lifted in God's hands. Well, today she
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  Speaker 1: didn't deny that when asked about that. But you got
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  Speaker 1: huffy and said no, no, no, it's a question of humanity.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that breaks some on what the suggestion that you've
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  Speaker 3: been guided by God your decision making and we campaigned
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  Speaker 3: on sort of other Islamic Muslim type of issues.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how to respond to that question without
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  Speaker 2: feeling offended or insulted that just because I'm a visibly
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  Speaker 2: Muslim woman, that I would only care about Muslim issues.
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  Speaker 2: This is this topic on Palestinian recognition, But Palestinian liberation
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  Speaker 2: is a matter that has impacted everyone with a conscience.
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  Speaker 2: It is a matter that's not just a Jewish verse
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  Speaker 2: Muslim issue. This is a matter about humanity.
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  Speaker 1: Do I worry about Payment's decisions for several reasons and
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  Speaker 1: not sure. I'm not sure I believe at all some
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  Speaker 1: of the things. She said in a press conference today
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  Speaker 1: explaining why she couldn't follow Labour's rules. Had to leave.
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  Speaker 1: Now the rules, of course, say Labour's rules. MPs have
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  Speaker 1: to vote as they collectively decide. You can't rat and
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  Speaker 1: vote your own way, which Payment did by voting with
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  Speaker 1: the Greens for the immediate recognition of a Palestinian state.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the big issue here. I was just leaving
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  Speaker 1: and let me go through my problems with what Payment
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  Speaker 1: has done, and said at first her preaching a victimhood today,
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  Speaker 1: you know, no one knows victimhood like a Muslim, a
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  Speaker 1: Muslim woman. This was a woman, a refugee from Afghanistan.
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  Speaker 2: Unlike my colleagues, I know how it feels to be
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  Speaker 2: on the receiving end of injustice. My family did not
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  Speaker 2: flee from a war torn country to come here as refugees.
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  Speaker 2: For me to remain silent when I see atrocities inflicted
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  Speaker 2: on innocent people.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's nonsense, because plenty of politicians understand victimhood. They've
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  Speaker 1: known domestic violence. Some of them have done poverty. Primus
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  Speaker 1: Anthony ALBINIZI was the son of a single mother and benefits.
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  Speaker 1: Others have been refugees themselves, independent daarlyfers, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: trust their other claim to victimhood. What is this victimhood
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  Speaker 1: olympics her claims of being bullied by wicked labor. Again,
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  Speaker 1: her claims weren't convincing. You just listened to this winging
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  Speaker 1: a list of example so trivial.
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  Speaker 2: The intimidation has been in many fronts just in general.
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  Speaker 2: When it comes to, you know, being escorted to the
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister's office, you know, almost on show for everyone
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  Speaker 2: to see what was happening, because I received many messages
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  Speaker 2: from people that shouldn't have known what was going on,
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  Speaker 2: or senators making it very clear that they didn't want
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  Speaker 2: to sit next to me in the chamber, in instances
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  Speaker 2: where there were stand up tactics of wanting to push
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  Speaker 2: me towards and invading that space that I had, and
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  Speaker 2: also just controlling and constantly pushing me for an answer.
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  Speaker 1: Crime your river. In fact, I don't die. Payment's great
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  Speaker 1: cause either that a refugee you escaped from Islamistic stremes
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  Speaker 1: and should now demand the recognition of Palestinian state when
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  Speaker 1: Palistine right now is run by more islist extreams. How
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  Speaker 1: does that work? I mean, one half is run by Hamas,
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  Speaker 1: which actually started this war that upsets her by slaughtering
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  Speaker 1: twelve hundred Jews on October seven. The other half of
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  Speaker 1: this Palestine is run by the fatire group formed by
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  Speaker 1: terrorist Yasser Arafat. I mean, those are the people who'd
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  Speaker 1: inevitably run this Palestinian state that Payment wants to recognize
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  Speaker 1: right now now A strange should actually feel betrayed, not
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  Speaker 1: just labor. Came here as a refugee. She now quits
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  Speaker 1: labor on an issue that has nothing to do with
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  Speaker 1: austrained domestic politics, helping the poor, taking refugees whatever. It's
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  Speaker 1: about a foreign war in which we have almost zero influence,
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  Speaker 1: and really in effect it's importing a foreign conflict into
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  Speaker 1: the country which offered her safety. Gee. Thanks, And another
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  Speaker 1: thing I don't buy. Payment says this idea of voting
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  Speaker 1: with the Greens and against labor, maybe even leaving labor
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  Speaker 1: all that it came to her in the moment, just
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  Speaker 1: in the moment. Really, a lot of labor in peace
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  Speaker 1: think it's been a month in the works, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: she actually admitted today. She talked days earlier to Glenn Drury,
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  Speaker 1: the notorious preference whisperer who advises minority political parties on
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  Speaker 1: how to win elections and is a man who could
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  Speaker 1: help a group called the Muslim Vote to get more
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  Speaker 1: Muslim people into parliament, and Payment didn't give a convincing
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  Speaker 1: or consistent answer when asked if she would join the
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  Speaker 1: Muslim Vote or form a Muslim party herself. She'd admitted
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  Speaker 1: should actually met that group, and her answers really were
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  Speaker 1: all over the shop.
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  Speaker 2: I've had a conversation with community members from Sydney and
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  Speaker 2: I do know that they are willing to put independent candidates,
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  Speaker 2: but that's the extent of my conversation with them at
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  Speaker 2: this stage. I do not plan to form a party,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, we'll stay tuned.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a scary stuff because that group, the
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  Speaker 1: Muslim Vote, for instance, you look at its website, it
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  Speaker 1: judges labor in Peason on one issue only, not on
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  Speaker 1: the welfare policies or tax or education or health, just
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  Speaker 1: on one issue, just like payment now, support for Palestinians
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  Speaker 1: and whether they're against Israel, nothing else. Nothing. That's why
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  Speaker 1: it says, you know, don't vote for employment Minister Tony Burke,
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  Speaker 1: for instance, even though it's been crawling for the Palaestinian course.
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  Speaker 1: Don't vote for education Minister Jason Clare, who's in a
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  Speaker 1: seat nearly thirty two percent of voter as a Muslim.
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  Speaker 1: Now ask you what is going to become of our
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  Speaker 1: politics our country If we now have a political movement
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  Speaker 1: that makes its number one issue a stand on foreign
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  Speaker 1: wars that don't even involve US, wars started by genocidal
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  Speaker 1: Islamus terrorists, what is that going to do to Australia.
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  Speaker 1: And this must also be a wake up for labor.
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  Speaker 1: Why on earth did it select this woman just twenty
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  Speaker 1: nine now for the Senate. It's a diversity pick obviously,
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  Speaker 1: and identity politics like that we now see is a
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  Speaker 1: dead end. And it must also learn that no matter
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  Speaker 1: how much it panders for the Muslim vote, no matter
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  Speaker 1: how much it slams Israel and boys have done that,
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  Speaker 1: it will never be enough not to a payment and
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  Speaker 1: all of us will now pay. Yes, insane how this
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  Speaker 1: Palace of the Iron issue was warping our politics when
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  Speaker 1: there's virtually nothing Australia can do about that war anyway,
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  Speaker 1: no matter what side you're on. In fact, though, it's
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  Speaker 1: now a cover for an attack on Australia itself on
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  Speaker 1: its values. I mean today for pro Palestine activists mass
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  Speaker 1: like terrorists are actually like cowards, shielding their faces, scale
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  Speaker 1: the security fence on top of Parliament House and hung
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  Speaker 1: banners over the top, one calling for the genocideal destruction
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  Speaker 1: of Israel from the river to the sea. Many say
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  Speaker 1: that's anti Semitic, another accusing Australia war crimes in most
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  Speaker 1: wars we've ever fought, and another claiming we're living on
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  Speaker 1: average of land anyway, stolen land Australia is legitimate. Now
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  Speaker 1: there are two serious issues here and the first is
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  Speaker 1: of course the security issue. I mean, how could these
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  Speaker 1: people have sc the police security of our parliament and
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  Speaker 1: for so long hanging this signs up there for ninety minutes.
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  Speaker 1: But second, here again is yet another protest which shows
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  Speaker 1: that the Propounds though movement is not just in an
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  Speaker 1: attack on Israel, but on the West generally and on
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  Speaker 1: Australia particularly. I don't think the Prime Minister really nailed
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  Speaker 1: that today, and.
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  Speaker 4: We condemn what occurred at Palm has today and we
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  Speaker 4: declare that those responsible should feel the full force of
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  Speaker 4: the law. Peaceful protest has an important place in our society,
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  Speaker 4: but this was not a peaceful protest.
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  Speaker 5: It is completely and utterly unacceptable in our society, in
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  Speaker 5: our democracy that we would see those messages hanging from
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  Speaker 5: the front of this Parliament. They are anti Semitic. Rivets
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  Speaker 5: of the Sea is a statement about wiping out, eliminating
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  Speaker 5: a race of people. Let's be very clear about it.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me is my Thursday Regular Nationals Front Benja Barnaby,
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  Speaker 1: it's the former Deputy Prime Minister Baby Jowus. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: for joining me this protest at Parliament House. You know,
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  Speaker 1: for protesters causing security breach, are scare accusing Australia of
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  Speaker 1: war crimes and all sorts of wars as calling for
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  Speaker 1: the essentially the genocide of the Israeli state with one
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  Speaker 1: banner from the river to the sea. Do you know,
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  Speaker 1: do you get the feeling with these protests that they
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  Speaker 1: really represent a new barity. People say, oh, look, they're
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  Speaker 1: not advancing their cause, but their cause may be an
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  Speaker 1: attack on the West generally, not just a defense of Palestinians.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you do get as senders, the ostrogoths and the
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  Speaker 6: vandals their making their way to.
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  Speaker 1: Rome, don't you.
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  Speaker 6: It's this is crazy, Like they started over there, folks,
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  Speaker 6: and then they got up and they ran along, ran
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  Speaker 6: along there and planned themselves just there. Now, the issue
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  Speaker 6: with that, the issue with that is they never went
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  Speaker 6: any through any security checks. The issue with that is
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  Speaker 6: they carried a heap of stuff with them. The issue
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  Speaker 6: with that is that once you're there, you can just
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  Speaker 6: jump over the back into the Queen's terrace and then
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  Speaker 6: you can make your way down the stairs and down
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  Speaker 6: the stairs. Last night was the whole great hall full
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  Speaker 6: of the Prime Minister, the leader of the Opposition, the Treasurer,
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  Speaker 6: the Defense Minister, the Finance minister, myself. That's not a
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  Speaker 6: great loss. Or you've senior media people. Now, if these
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  Speaker 6: people were bad, not mad, and they thought, well, hang on,
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  Speaker 6: if I can get in there and carry all this stuff,
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  Speaker 6: how bout I get the right vulnerable person, I get
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  Speaker 6: them to carry something else, and then they can just
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  Speaker 6: duck down the stairs, go into that hall, and I'm
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  Speaker 6: an international terrorist superstar that this says that big one.
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  Speaker 1: The says that big one.
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  Speaker 6: So it's more than a joke, very serious. We have
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  Speaker 6: the Greens going out there and actually defending the desecration
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  Speaker 6: of our war memrals. Could would you ever think that
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  Speaker 6: that would happen in Australia someone actually mount an excuse
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  Speaker 6: for the desecration out of a warm morals And this
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  Speaker 6: is basically the same crowd. There are no warmal Morals
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  Speaker 6: during the week they're in the Parliament today. I think
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  Speaker 6: the warm Morals are worse, by the way, much worse.
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  Speaker 6: But this is a whole new ethos we're in here.
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  Speaker 6: Andrew Well, I keep hearing.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of journalists aren't quite getting what's
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  Speaker 1: going on. They keep saying, well, these tactics are discrediting
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  Speaker 1: their cause of the pro Palaceni movement. Guys, the attack
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  Speaker 1: on Australia and its institutions and the West generally. Ah,
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  Speaker 1: that is the cause. That is the cause. You've got
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  Speaker 1: to get it. I don't understand why they don't now
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  Speaker 1: the resignation from labor of Fatima payment today, as some
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  Speaker 1: labor colleagues are saying, she told them she was being
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  Speaker 1: driven by God Allah in her Casius Muslim to abandon
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  Speaker 1: labor for who knows who. Over the issue of Palestine,
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  Speaker 1: I find it quite interesting that of all the issues
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  Speaker 1: that causes her riffed with the Labor Party, it is Palestine,
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  Speaker 1: an issue in which the Labor Party the Government has
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  Speaker 1: got almost no influence. It's nothing to do with Australia itself.
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  Speaker 1: What do you make of it?
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  Speaker 6: I think this is a very bad turn of events
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  Speaker 6: because it sort of works in with this movement towards
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  Speaker 6: an Islamic party. Now, we don't have Catholic parties, we
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  Speaker 6: don't have Protestant parties or Jewish parties. They're supposed they
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  Speaker 6: might have different political views, but they encompass all sides
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  Speaker 6: of the faith diaspora of Australia. But if this moves
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  Speaker 6: towards an Islamic party, then I imagine within that Islamic
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  Speaker 6: policy platform will be things that others may find completely anathema.
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  Speaker 6: Will they have a policy of the removal of the
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  Speaker 6: Jewish people from Israel? Will they have a policy that
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  Speaker 6: demands acceptance of sections of the Islamic faith which is
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  Speaker 6: just unacceptable to other sections of Australia.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, you know, if I had a.
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  Speaker 6: Catholic party and decided that everything I said was going
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  Speaker 6: to be absolutely the law for all of Australia, you
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  Speaker 6: would find me even more intolerable. But you know, I
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  Speaker 6: think this is a very bad turn of events and
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: it just goes to show there was very foolish for
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  Speaker 6: the Labor Party to pre select this individual in the
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  Speaker 6: first place. It has worked out very badly for our nation,
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  Speaker 6: not just for the Labor Party, for our nation. And
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  Speaker 6: she's there for another four years. So where does this end?
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: In four years, with the resources of an office, you
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  Speaker 6: can do a lot of things, and this might be
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  Speaker 6: the first four years of four of fifty. And we're
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: going to inflame the situation because whatever said will have
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  Speaker 6: to be refuted, have to be debated, and we start
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  Speaker 6: bringing out into the open sectarian type of fight, and
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  Speaker 6: that is not very good for Australia.
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  Speaker 1: Bunnaby Joyce, you and I were both disturbed last year
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  Speaker 1: when the Bureau Meteorology predicted a very dry spell which
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  Speaker 1: panicked a lot of farmers into selling off their stock
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: at rock bottom prices, when in fact it later turned
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: out to be very very wet period. Well, if the
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  Speaker 1: fear it's started again, it's predicted that from July to September,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: warmer than average days and nights are very likely across
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Australia with an increased chance of unusually warm days and nights. Well,
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  Speaker 1: in fact, in the Tasmanian town of Leahwanie, I hope
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: you pronounce that right, they just had their record lowest
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: day ever minus twelve point nine degrees celsius. That is
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: arctic conditions. We could laugh at them getting it so wrong,
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  Speaker 1: but there's something serious going on here, isn't there.
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  Speaker 6: So Folks, if you leave your window open in that temperature,
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  Speaker 6: you die, You die, you die, you wake up, you
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  Speaker 6: don't wake up, you turn into a popsicle. But Andrew,
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  Speaker 6: you've missed it. You've missed the major point, Like you
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  Speaker 6: have to understand that Chris Bowen has fixed it. He's
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: fixed the weather, He's fixed the climate. All those swindle farms,
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  Speaker 6: those transmission lines, power prices, you can't afford manufacturing leaving
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  Speaker 6: Australia making our economy weaker. So the Chinese very very
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: happy with the way we are driving our economy into
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  Speaker 6: the ground. Well, Chris Bowen has fixed the weather. And
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: you know those painting the fields are fault of Otague
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  Speaker 6: Black the solar panels. You know, we really should be
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  Speaker 6: thankful because Tasmania's had the coldest day in history for
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: Tasmania and I can only put it down to the genius,
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: the absolute genius of mister Bowen. And when I see
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: him prancing to the dispatch box with a smirk on
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: his face, you know, laughing at the pensioners are card
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  Speaker 6: afford their power, Bell I can now turn around say, folks,
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  Speaker 6: he did it.
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  Speaker 1: He has changed the weather. Well, Mark just suggests to
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  Speaker 1: some that a little bit more warmth might actually prove
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  Speaker 1: a little more comfortable. Barnaby Joyce, thank you so much
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  Speaker 1: for your time.
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  Speaker 6: Oh it's a pleasure, Andrew.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we might criticize all those pro palistone protests,
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  Speaker 1: the lobby, all that kind of stuff, but I'm afraid
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  Speaker 1: it's working because it's got the government hopping. The Albanize
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: governor is getting tougher and tougher against Israel. And the
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: latest example, well it's incredible because I think it's just
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  Speaker 1: pure Mannas and astonishing ignorance. The government actually hauled in
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  Speaker 1: Israel's ambassador for a dressing down and warned him that
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Israel cannot expect Australia support if it goes to war
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  Speaker 1: against Hezbollad in southern Lebanon. Even more insulting is this
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  Speaker 1: dressing down wasn't done by farm mister Penny Wong. She
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: left it to a junior Woodchuck or assistant Minister Tim Watts.
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  Speaker 1: Now what makes this so stupid is that there already
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  Speaker 1: is a war with Hezbollah. Hesbela is in fact a
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  Speaker 1: terrorist group much bigger and better around than Hamas. Hamasa
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  Speaker 1: is to Israel south. Hesbella is actually to Israel's north
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  Speaker 1: in Lebanon, and there it's been firing rockets and missiles
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  Speaker 1: and sending UAVs into Israel four months ever since the
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  Speaker 1: Hamas slaughter of Jews on October seventh, causing panic, setting
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  Speaker 1: off big fires, forcing the evacuation of sixty thousand Israelis
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  Speaker 1: for months now. There in fact, two Hebela rocket attacks
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  Speaker 1: on Israel in the morning that I was at the
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  Speaker 1: border over there. Now, if another country was firing rockets
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  Speaker 1: into Australia almost every day, forcing massive evacuations, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know of Townsville or whatever, how would we react to
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: be in by some other country. You must not fight back.
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  Speaker 1: This is just idiotic. Joining me is Colonel Richard Kemp is,
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  Speaker 1: a retired BRIDGEHAMIOF so the commanded Operation Fingle in Afghanistan
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  Speaker 1: has studied the israeliam is war tactics. Colonel Camp, great
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  Speaker 1: to see you again. Listen, the Australian governor is stelling
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  Speaker 1: Israel don't go to war with Hisbela.
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  Speaker 7: Your response, well, Andrew, it's irresponsible, and it's irresponsible for
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: a number of reasons. I mean, just before I give
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: you a proper response, I should let you and your
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: viewers know that in the last two hours Israel Jubella
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  Speaker 7: has fired a massive bombardment of rockets into northern Israel,
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: which is still going on now as we speak, and
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  Speaker 7: Hisbella claimed they've fired at least two hundred rockets at
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: Israel in the last couple of hours. And this is
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: just the latest, very large salvo of rockets that have
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: been fired, as you've said before, ad Israel almost daily
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: since the ninth of October when the Ha mass massacre occurred.
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  Speaker 7: And the reason that Australia is being irresponsible is first
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: of all, because this is Israel has a right and
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: a responsibility to defend its people from attack from a
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: foreign country under international law, and therefore it should it
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: should attack his bla and deal with his BLA in
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: southern Lebanon. But the second reason it's irresponsible is because
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: talk of this sort encourages his Balah. When the international
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: community support terrorist actions, it encourages those terrorists to do
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: even more. And so there's nothing I don't think there's
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: anything more irresponsible than Australia making this statement to the
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: Israeli ambassador. And you know, if you just think back,
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: I know it's been up before your time and before
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: my time. But in nineteen forty for the Nazis fired
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: thousands of rockets into the into southern Britain from France
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: and Britain. No one said to Britain, Australia didn't stay
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: to Britain, the US didn't stay to Britain, don't respond,
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: don't retaliate. What Britain did was to carry out massive
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: bombardments against the Nazis rocket systems and everything connected with them,
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: and conducted very soon afterward was conducted the invasion of France.
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: So this is this is without a doubt, this is
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: double standards and grossly irresponsible.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, two hundred rockets in the just today and
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Australi telling the ambassador no, you must not fight back.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I mean it's just it's just so insane. As the
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: bigger comprehension, what is Hezbola actually up to? How dangerous
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: is it?
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: His Blar is probably the most dangerous terrorist organization in
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: the world. It is a proxy of Iran. It was
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: founded by Iran, it's funded by Iran, it's armed and
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: directed by Iran, and it's part of Iran's ring of
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: fire around Israel intended to wipe out Israel. And the
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: ring of fire comes from from his Blar itself in Lebanon,
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: and other terrorist groups in Lebanon, in Syria, in Judaian Samaria,
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: in Gaza, in Yemen, Iraq, and in Iran itself, and
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: there's no question about their intention here. The whole thing,
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: like the Hamas attacks on the sevend the ninth of October,
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: is under the direction of Iran. And of course we
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: know that Iran not just wants to destroy Israel conventionally,
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: but also wants to destroy Israel through development of nuclear weapons,
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: which is very well progressed now. So it's a very
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: real threat.
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: This is not just a foreign a small foreign country
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: Lebanon attacking Israel, but it's also sponsored by one of
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: the major powers in the Middle East.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous. And Richard came, If Israel there's not
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: a to defend itself go to war with to clear
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: out that southern border area pushes Bola back, what options
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: does it have.
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: Well, there's only one other option for Israel, and that
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: is that Hisbella voluntarily agrees to stop firing or simply
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: stops firing missiles at Israel. But that then isn't even
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: the end of the problem.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I've been in.
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: Israel for most of the last nine months, since the
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: seventh of October, and indeed I met you over there
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: when you were visiting recently, and I've been living for
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: much of that time with refugees from Kiria at Shimona,
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: which is a town that's closest to the Lebanese border.
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: They're desperate to go home. They can't go home. They've
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: been there for nine months, away from their homes, schools, work,
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: everything else. Life for them has stopped. And this can't
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: be allowed to go on. As you mentioned, sixty thousand
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: or more Israelis have been evacuated from the north of
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: Israel and it can't continue. So his Bolat has to stop,
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: and not just stop, because the danger is not simply
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: from one hundred and fifty thousand missiles that his belor
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: is believed to have pointing at Israel, but also from
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: the very real risk of another Seventh of October in
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: the North. And who could possibly go home?
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Until I asked you what options I have? I tell
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: you what they haven't done. They haven't called in the
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Lebanese ambassador to demand to stop. I'll tell you that
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: they're calling the Israeli so don't fight back. Ridiculous. Richard Kim,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: always great to talk to you. Thanks for your time,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: amazing after the break. Now, politicians in Canberra dress up
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: last night for the big ball and the clothes told
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: us plenty about some of them PEPs too much to fashion.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Mavens will tell us what after this. Now to last
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: night's midwinter ball in Canberra with politicians each year, political
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: journalists as well. They all dress up, they drink up
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: and they party like true members of the governing elite. Now,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: there's a theory that you are what you wear. In fact,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the whole books have been written about exactly that. And
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: so at last that was a great chance for you
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: to work out what our politicians really are. Joining me
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: tonight the two fashion this is with sharp eyes and
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: sharper tongues, Gem and Tongnini economists and communications consultant, and
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: so much else, and Caroline de Russo, commentator and President
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: of the West Australian Liberals and both Sconies regulars. Of course, Jemmy,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: can I start with this the habit which I find
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: so aggressive and a real party poopa of the left
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: now to wear political slogans on their this ball. In fact,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: there was Race Baden Center Olivia Thorpe wearing the harmasaprof
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: slogan from the River to the Sea like a party
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: is just the place, the call for the genocide of
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the Israeli state, and this green scent of the Lewisa
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: wads wearing ear rings, the money in the right to
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: abortion your verdict.
• 27:10
  Speaker 9: Well, I mean it's just so like insert sarcasm wherever
• 27:13
  Speaker 9: you like, Andrew. But it's stunning and brave, isn't it.
• 27:16
  Speaker 9: I mean, oh, my god, the absolute moral fortitude to
• 27:19
  Speaker 9: wear a dress with riding on it. My goodness, we
• 27:23
  Speaker 9: must all stand in awe and genuflected in front of
• 27:25
  Speaker 9: the ore or you know, the altar of their virtue.
• 27:27
  Speaker 9: It's so juvenile, so boring, and it's ugly.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: To boot Caroline. I'll give you two more examples of
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: slogan wearers. I mean the rage now later Messa Anne Arli.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: She wore a startling collage with a slogan on the
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: back of it in violence against women and as if
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, maybe violence against women is
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: rampant at this ball. At another laborer in Peter Rinda
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Cox with a purse with another slogan, truth and justice. Now,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: what do these choices tell you about them?
• 28:02
  Speaker 10: The other one that was even probably more startling than
• 28:07
  Speaker 10: either of those, was Jed Kearney and her I U
• 28:10
  Speaker 10: D shaped earrings. I thought that that probably wasn't necessary
• 28:14
  Speaker 10: for the occasion.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I couldn't work out what they were aud shaped earrings. Okay,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I'll go there.
• 28:26
  Speaker 9: It's okay, Andrew, and you're there.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be tie hanging there. Breathe, mate, breathe.
• 28:32
  Speaker 10: The one thing that I will say about ann Arlei's
• 28:35
  Speaker 10: dress that is quite interesting and there is look, I
• 28:39
  Speaker 10: don't like the idea of making politicals that, like Jemma said,
• 28:42
  Speaker 10: I find it really incredibly tiresome. Ann Ali, though in
• 28:47
  Speaker 10: her first marriage was the victim of domestic violence, so
• 28:51
  Speaker 10: she does have a you know, a personal experience there
• 28:56
  Speaker 10: that I do have some empathy for. The Other thing
• 28:59
  Speaker 10: which I think is excellent about ann Arlie's dress, isn't
• 29:02
  Speaker 10: she crocheted it herself? Tom Marx for someone who is able, well,
• 29:08
  Speaker 10: this is a labor party. These are the people who
• 29:10
  Speaker 10: used to be able to do things with their hands,
• 29:12
  Speaker 10: and now these days the only minister who's ever done
• 29:14
  Speaker 10: anything productive is ann li making her own dress for
• 29:17
  Speaker 10: the Midwinter Ball. So top marks to Anne Arle for
• 29:21
  Speaker 10: that frock. But on a general level, where you've got
• 29:26
  Speaker 10: those statements that are very superficial and very vacuous, they
• 29:29
  Speaker 10: have absolutely no interest.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: To me, and utterly predictable too, I mean utterly predictable,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: and all from the left, which is quite interesting. A
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: conservatives are more well conservative, I guess. The most unusual
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: pairing at the ball was a not just fashion in
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: fashion sense, was of labor. Jewish member Josh Burns is
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: very pro Israel, with his girlfriend Georgie Purcell, who is
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: a very pro Palasinighost protest even she's an Animal Justice
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: MP from Victoria, showing off her tats. Jemy, your verdict
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: on what the clothes and tats tell about that pairing.
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: Oh well, first of all, I consider Josh mate, and
• 30:09
  Speaker 9: I think good on him. Love is love across the
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: political divide, good for both of them. I think Georgia
• 30:15
  Speaker 9: Purcell has a really you know, distinctive look, and I
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: think she looks absolutely pardon the expression bang, and she
• 30:21
  Speaker 9: looked fantastic. She looks fit, she looks healthy. She you know,
• 30:24
  Speaker 9: she wears her ink. Well, I'm not the person to
• 30:26
  Speaker 9: get ink, Andrew. I'm the straightest white, well half Italian
• 30:29
  Speaker 9: white woman that ever breathed. If I got ink, I
• 30:31
  Speaker 9: would look absolutely ridiculous. But I think she looks gorgeous.
• 30:36
  Speaker 9: They're very happy, confirms the worst kept secret since there
• 30:38
  Speaker 9: were worst, terrible kept secrets, and you know, good luck
• 30:42
  Speaker 9: to them. They wouldn't be the first you know, metaphorical
• 30:44
  Speaker 9: odd couple to.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Date, perhaps not, perhaps not to the Teal independence so Caroline.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: They pretend to be conserved, as of course, alarmed by
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: global warming and all that. Maybe it is there in
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: a conservativesm coming out, which I'd never suspected. But I
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: was struck how there was very little flesh on display
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: with them, No bright colors really at all. What does
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: this picture tell you about the Teals?
• 31:18
  Speaker 10: Well, I think the flesh on display thing is probably
• 31:20
  Speaker 10: something we can part to one side. I would like
• 31:24
  Speaker 10: to think that our members of Parliament are a little
• 31:26
  Speaker 10: more discerning of that, regardless of where they sit on
• 31:29
  Speaker 10: the political spectrum. I did think they did look a
• 31:32
  Speaker 10: little bit dull though, a little bit you know samblage
• 31:35
  Speaker 10: of mothers of the bride really, I suppose than what
• 31:38
  Speaker 10: you'd expect them to be, given that they spend all
• 31:40
  Speaker 10: their time, you know, bagging the Liberal Party for being
• 31:43
  Speaker 10: old fashioned and dull. And if you have a look
• 31:46
  Speaker 10: at some of the Liberal women who were there, Susan
• 31:49
  Speaker 10: Lay absolutely stunning and Jane Hume best on ground Chartruth's
• 31:56
  Speaker 10: bandage dress. She was absolutely oh.
• 31:58
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that was an absolute so oh that was a
• 32:02
  Speaker 9: belter of a frock, absolute belter of a frock.
• 32:05
  Speaker 10: So you know, it's very very interesting with these Teals,
• 32:08
  Speaker 10: I guess, you know, depending where they are on any
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: given day, they've got a different costume on with a
• 32:13
  Speaker 10: different part to play.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Well. Two male front benches have to say, had great accessories,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: but they weren't clothes. None of them have got very
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: flash reputation. I mean in terms of being you know,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: out and about and really charismatic and all that. They
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: actually look far more interesting by the choice of partners
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: and their clothes. Nationals leaders David Litlpra looking like a
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: man who knows his punching well above his weight, with
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: his girlfriend Amelia Dobson, a banking executive, a former Lavy leader.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Bill Shorton with his glamorous daughter Georgette. Your verdict on
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: those Gemma.
• 32:48
  Speaker 9: Oh look, I think you know I love I love
• 32:51
  Speaker 9: that shade of I don't know if you call it
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: mustard or yellow or what you'd call it. I think
• 32:55
  Speaker 9: it's absolutely striking and she looks beautiful. Mister Shorten and
• 32:59
  Speaker 9: his look, it's lovely to have a dad and daughter day.
• 33:02
  Speaker 9: I must admit I must be showing my age and
• 33:05
  Speaker 9: conservatism because it's probably a little bit too much flesh
• 33:07
  Speaker 9: for my liking Andrew. It's probably if I had walked
• 33:12
  Speaker 9: out of her house and my mother would have begin
• 33:13
  Speaker 9: turned around and go back inside put some cloves on.
• 33:16
  Speaker 9: But that's just showing my age and my my conservative background.
• 33:19
  Speaker 9: But I would like a very quick shout out to
• 33:21
  Speaker 9: my best on ground, Louise Momba who none of you
• 33:24
  Speaker 9: will Some of you will know missus Rob Scott absolute
• 33:27
  Speaker 9: banging gown last night. If you follow her on social media,
• 33:30
  Speaker 9: go have a look, because she looked absolutely elegant.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm just so surprised that two Italians have such
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: as he down on the exposure of flesh. I was
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: in Rome for a week a month ago, and I
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: have got to say, my goodness, me, that's something that
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: will popular eyes out. I mean, I don't know what's
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: going on over there, Jim and Tomeni and Carolina summer
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: over there, well, I don't know. It was I don't know,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: wondering where I was walking through a bordello or down
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: the main street. Sometimes. Thank you so much to you both.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: After the break, Britain is voting right now as we speak.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: For look, it looks like a labor government and a landslide,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: but I wonder what on earth they're actually going to get.
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: Well.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: At the same time they say they're also against mass immigration,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: with something wild is coming. I think after this now,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: British voters right now as we speak, they're going to
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: the battle box and they're tipticals. The biggest wipeout of
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: the Conservative party in Britain ever seen, even the Murdock
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: owned Sun newspaper that was so strong for Margaret Thatcher
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: is saying vote Labor. I think they not quite sure
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: if they're full throated about that, but that's what they're saying.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: But what is this Labor party really? What is Britain
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: going to get? And good and hard joined me from
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: London as Patrick Christie's star pres into GBN News. Patrick.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Always great to see you. Look, tell me what is
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: this labor? Paddy? And the key is stamming because the
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: elections all about how hopeless the Conservatives are. I'm not
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: hearing much abit how great labor really is.
• 35:17
  Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely so, Labor is on course to win the
• 35:20
  Speaker 11: largest majority since eighteen thirty two. Well, we were still
• 35:23
  Speaker 11: putting people in the stocks then, people were still being hung,
• 35:26
  Speaker 11: drawn and quartered then. And I can't help but wonder
• 35:28
  Speaker 11: if that's a metaphor for what's to come for Cirquis Starmer,
• 35:31
  Speaker 11: the Labor leader who could become very unpopular very quickly.
• 35:34
  Speaker 11: His personal approval ratings are very very low. There is
• 35:39
  Speaker 11: not a massive appetite for what Labour actually stands for.
• 35:42
  Speaker 11: Votes for sixteen year olds, hundreds of billions of pounds
• 35:45
  Speaker 11: for net zero and green stuff, very soft on illegal immigration,
• 35:49
  Speaker 11: to make an enemy of Israel, and essentially signed with
• 35:51
  Speaker 11: the Palestinian state more men in women's changing rooms for
• 35:54
  Speaker 11: goodness sake as well. So we're going to see all
• 35:56
  Speaker 11: of that now. We call him Sir flip Flop over here.
• 35:59
  Speaker 11: I think that will be Sir Thong in Australia, which
• 36:01
  Speaker 11: I actually prefer. But his u turn on everything. He
• 36:05
  Speaker 11: used to want to abolish the monarchy. He signed a
• 36:08
  Speaker 11: letter to get illegal immigrants off a deportation flight. One
• 36:12
  Speaker 11: of those people went on to murder someone for goodness sake,
• 36:15
  Speaker 11: and in his days as a lawyer he represented foreign
• 36:18
  Speaker 11: terrorist groups in the European Corps. The thing is, though
• 36:22
  Speaker 11: I don't reckon he's going to go the full five years, Andrew,
• 36:24
  Speaker 11: the problem is I might not either, And I was
• 36:27
  Speaker 11: hoping to ask you if I could claim asylum and
• 36:29
  Speaker 11: come and live with you. I already speak about it.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to have that kind
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: of majority. I can't see him losing offers for a
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: long time. But honestly, see, this is the thing. I
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: don't think Britain is in the same hind space as
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: what labor there is offering, I mean, particularly on immigration.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: And I just wonder Nigel Faraj, here's a colleague of yours,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: presenter at gb News. You know, he got back into politics.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: He's leading the anti Immigration Reform Party, but it's not
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: likely to win many seats because of this first past
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: the post system splitting the vote. It's just going to
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: split the conservative vote between the Conservatives and him and
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: then hand even more sage the labor, which will open
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: the gates. I mean, I don't get it. What do
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: you make of his campaign?
• 37:20
  Speaker 11: Well is interesting. So as far as Nigel's concern, the
• 37:22
  Speaker 11: definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and
• 37:25
  Speaker 11: over again and expecting a different result. And he's done
• 37:27
  Speaker 11: deals with the Conservatives in the past. They've promised him
• 37:30
  Speaker 11: to be more conservative and then they've gone on to
• 37:32
  Speaker 11: not be conservative at all. And that is actually how
• 37:35
  Speaker 11: millions of voters feel in this country, like a dog
• 37:38
  Speaker 11: returning to its vomit. You could go out and vote
• 37:40
  Speaker 11: conservative again, but you're probably going to get something that
• 37:43
  Speaker 11: isn't particularly conservative. So Nigel's thing is, let's just give
• 37:46
  Speaker 11: them a massive kicking and millions of people are expected
• 37:49
  Speaker 11: today to go out and do just that. But as
• 37:51
  Speaker 11: you say, not anticipating getting many seats. The latest poll,
• 37:55
  Speaker 11: which I just saw on my phone literally just before
• 37:57
  Speaker 11: you started talking to me, would put them on three seats,
• 38:00
  Speaker 11: which is not a lot, but they could get between
• 38:02
  Speaker 11: say five and eight million votes. So what he's thinking is, well,
• 38:06
  Speaker 11: we'll get three seats, we'll get a foot in the door.
• 38:09
  Speaker 11: People will get a little whiff of what a proper
• 38:11
  Speaker 11: socialist government looks like. We are not a socialist country here.
• 38:14
  Speaker 11: They will hate it. The Conservatives will still be a mess,
• 38:17
  Speaker 11: and then in parachutes Nigel Parage as the savior. It's
• 38:21
  Speaker 11: a high risk strategy, you know. And some people will say, well,
• 38:23
  Speaker 11: that's playing roulette with Britain, But a lot of people
• 38:26
  Speaker 11: will say, well, to be honest with you, it doesn't
• 38:27
  Speaker 11: really matter because we're just going to get two cheeks
• 38:30
  Speaker 11: of the same backside anyway, no matter what.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Ah. But I don't know, I mean, I don't even
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: know if it's going to win his own seat. How
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: many times has he tried and failed six or times
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: or something like that, I don't know. And if he doesn't,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: all it's really done is helped destroy the Conservatives any
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: real opposition and label a free reign. I mean, I
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: note your happy prediction that Laborer, you know, the Labor
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: leader will be out before the five years. But with
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: a majority like that, Patrick, they can do anything.
• 39:08
  Speaker 11: Yeah, they can that. This is a massive risk, Okay,
• 39:11
  Speaker 11: it is a massive risk for them. The thing I
• 39:13
  Speaker 11: will say is that the Labor Party has a massive
• 39:15
  Speaker 11: capacity to implo So for example, if Circuits Starma had
• 39:19
  Speaker 11: been in charge at the time of the October the
• 39:21
  Speaker 11: seventh massacre, he would have lost half of his front
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  Speaker 11: bench probably a bit more a load of his backbench MP's.
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  Speaker 11: He would have been in real, real turmoil. And so
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  Speaker 11: there is the capacity, despite the numbers, for there to
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  Speaker 11: be some kind of catastrophic implosion. I mean, the problem
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  Speaker 11: with it comes to the Conservatives is though they've just
• 39:39
  Speaker 11: left it too late, right, so, you know, they've had
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  Speaker 11: numerous opportunities to sort things out, to stop the boats.
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  Speaker 11: But now we end up with potentially a Labor government
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  Speaker 11: that actually could allow ninety thousand more people to claim
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  Speaker 11: asylum in Britain who would not be allowed now, you know.
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  Speaker 11: And also they could say they're going to build one
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  Speaker 11: and a half million social houses every year. They're going
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  Speaker 11: to let asylum seekers live in those social houses as well.
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  Speaker 11: They've got a new Home Secretary, probably at midnight tonight,
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  Speaker 11: who held up a refugees welcome sign. But the problem is,
• 40:09
  Speaker 11: Andrew the Conservative Party are not a million miles off
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  Speaker 11: that all of this has been happening under their watch
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  Speaker 11: as well. So there is huge levels of frustration out there.
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  Speaker 11: I completely get what you're saying that you know we're
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  Speaker 11: going to end up with Laby. That's what the Tories
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  Speaker 11: are saying. The Conservatives say, if you vote Finandel frag
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  Speaker 11: you get socialism, and I get that. But unfortunately people
• 40:27
  Speaker 11: are so beaten down by what we've seen that maybe
• 40:30
  Speaker 11: they just don't really care. But I think I think
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  Speaker 11: it will care when it happened.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: How the Conservatives are throwing it away. But at least
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I've had happy and news. Patrick. You've posted pictures of
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: your winning. It looks fantastic. I'm so glad for you,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: so happy for you. I've got to congratulate your mate.
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  Speaker 1: Lovely bride and happy groom. Good on your mate, Thank.
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  Speaker 11: You, thank you, Andrew, thank you so so much. About
• 40:58
  Speaker 11: to cancel the honeymoon because of the action so I'm
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  Speaker 11: going away hopefully in a few weeks time.
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  Speaker 1: But God bless you.
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  Speaker 7: I do.
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  Speaker 11: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, good own you Patrick. After the break Labor in Pas,
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  Speaker 1: Senator Fatima Payman claimed that she was guided by a
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  Speaker 1: Muslim God when she decided to quit labor. Germans hate
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  Speaker 1: politicians show their Christian faith, but what about Muslim ones?
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  Speaker 1: Is that different?
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: There?
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  Speaker 1: Plus my book and whiskey of the week if we
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: have time. Now back to Wislom. Senator Fatoma Payment resigning
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: from the Labor Party now. As I said earlier, some
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: of her labor colleagues say she was She told that
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: she was guided by God, by Allah and deciding how
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: to adam Palestine today. She didn't deny it, but got
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: half about a question on it. Join miss the panel.
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  Speaker 1: James McPherson hosted the Late Debate Superb host of this
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: show while I was away, and Louise Elliott business consultant,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Hobot City councilor James. There are reports like I say
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  Speaker 1: that she said she was guided by God or the
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: decisions in God's hands. Is it politician being guided by
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: God a problem? Or does it simply depend on what
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: that God? In this case of Muslim one is actually whispering.
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  Speaker 3: It's a great question, Andrew. The first thing is to
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: understand that no one comes to Parliament value neutral. Everybody
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: has a religion, whether you believe in God or not,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: everyone has a worldview that answers and informs the most
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: basic questions, where do we come from, what happens when
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: you die, what's the purpose of life? How do you
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: decide right from wrong? So everybody, whether you believe in
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: God or not, has a framework. Now her framework is Islam,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: and you would expect that she would seek advice from Mohammed,
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  Speaker 3: just as you would expect a Christian politician would seek
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: advice from Jesus. So the question is not whether our
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: politicians ought to consult their worldview for guidance, but which
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: worldview would you prefer them to consult? And this is
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: not a theoretical question. You don't need a doctorate in
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: comparative religion. See the evidence for yourselves. Western nations predominantly
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  Speaker 3: based on a Judeo Christian ethic. If you want to
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: look at what the Muslim world produces, have look at Iran, Iraq,
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Afghanistan and simply answer the question, which worldview do you
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  Speaker 3: believe creates some more harmonious, prosperous society. And so I
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: thank Fatima Payment for bringing this to the public attention,
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: because religion does play a big part in our lives,
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: all of our lives, and it's a question we should
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: ask what set of religious values do we want guiding
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  Speaker 3: our nation because someone's values will and I would argue
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  Speaker 3: the values of Jesus are superior for creating prosperity and
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  Speaker 3: freedom to anyone else's values that has ever set foot
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  Speaker 3: on planet Earth.
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  Speaker 1: You make a good point if you see what AlOH
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  Speaker 1: is whispering to some of those theocricies you mentioned. I
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: don't know by their firs, you shall judge them to
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: quote the Bible. But Luise, I mean, you know, if
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: you're a Christian, if Scott Marris had said I make
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: decisions based on what God said he rejected saying that
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  Speaker 1: he didn't, or Tony Abbott, they would be destroyed in
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: the media, they'd be laughed at. I mean, just being
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Christian was enough for the craky left wing sarctor mock
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  Speaker 1: Morrison for having a God delusion. I don't hear any
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  Speaker 1: mockery of Fatimin Payment.
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  Speaker 12: No, that's right there is complete double standards at play,
• 44:24
  Speaker 12: and that's that immunity again coming into the left. Some
• 44:27
  Speaker 12: things are uncritiqueable, but I think Fatima and Payne just
• 44:31
  Speaker 12: really didn't read the job description when it comes to Labor,
• 44:34
  Speaker 12: because the only thing you meant to be led by
• 44:36
  Speaker 12: as a Labor senator is the labor whip. You were
• 44:39
  Speaker 12: told what to do.
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  Speaker 7: Free thinking and.
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  Speaker 12: Being guided by whatever God you may happen to have
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  Speaker 12: is not part of the Lab senator way of life.
• 44:50
  Speaker 12: And I think the senator's done the right thing in
• 44:52
  Speaker 12: terms of resigning from Labor. But now she needs to
• 44:55
  Speaker 12: resign from the Parliament because she was elected as a
• 44:59
  Speaker 12: Labor senator and it's only right that she now returns
• 45:02
  Speaker 12: that seat to a Labor senator.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's extremely correct. But sticking with you, Louise,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: you've been persecuted for your beliefs too, political beliefs in
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: this case by the Hobart counselor. This is an incredible story.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: This time though, you've got an apology from the Chief
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Executive Officer for having been lied to, discriminated against for
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: your political beliefs and denied the use of the town
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  Speaker 1: Hall borroom for a function what happened.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, it really is an astounding story.
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  Speaker 12: It's been going on for months now. I tried to
• 45:32
  Speaker 12: book the town Hall for a women's rights and free
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  Speaker 12: speech event in my personal capacity and what unfolded is discrimination,
• 45:41
  Speaker 12: direct discrimination. I was lied to to my face by
• 45:44
  Speaker 12: multiple employees. I was gaso lip for months and the
• 45:47
  Speaker 12: discrimination denied. I had my privacy breached, and I also
• 45:51
  Speaker 12: had freedom of information processes frustrated they were withheld from
• 45:56
  Speaker 12: me and also had information withheld under them. And finally
• 46:00
  Speaker 12: night an apology was tabled from the CEO. Now it's
• 46:04
  Speaker 12: really a matter for my council colleagues to own the
• 46:07
  Speaker 12: organizational behavior, because I do strongly believe that the culture
• 46:11
  Speaker 12: that enabled the conduct towards me has come from the
• 46:13
  Speaker 12: very top, because I am one of millions of Australians
• 46:17
  Speaker 12: who believe in the importance of female only sports and
• 46:21
  Speaker 12: some spaces. But unfortunately in the Hobart City Council, I've
• 46:24
  Speaker 12: been bullied for a good year or so because of
• 46:27
  Speaker 12: those beliefs. So it's good to finally see some accountability
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  Speaker 12: and I'm optimistic that by exposing this we'll move forward.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Optimistic. Oh you young thing, yes you were told that
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the hall was not available, it was ready booked, you
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: couldn't have it, and they were lying to you. But
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: James just quickly amount of time. But how come this
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: kind of discrimination we hear against Christians and Conservatives, but never,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: to my knowledge, discrimination against the left.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great question. The other question I would
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: ask is how many other people have cop this sort
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: of treatment? But because they're not Louise Elliott and not
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: as tenacious and informed as Louise, they just never knew
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: that were being discriminated against. I'd love to know the
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: answer to that question.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: So I absolutely James first and Louise Elliott. Thank you
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: so much to you both. So we do have time
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: and my book of the week, because it's a week
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: of betrayal and disloyalty and all that kind of things,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: mixed loyalties. So why don't we recommend The Spy who
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Came In from the Cold by John Leca Ray. This
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: is before he went crazy Left and all that great
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: spy thriller that was his field. I suggest you read
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: this is nice and thing very cold. We're that record
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: cold and Tasmania. Curl up with a book. As always,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: you can go to the Robinson's bookshop website. At the
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: top left, you'll see the link to all my book tips.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Get in there and read an order from my friends
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: over there. And as for Whiskey of the Week, listen,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: I was away for five weeks to come back home.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I tell you what. The whiskeys here are fantastic. I'm
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: feeling back at home. A good winter drink, Peter malt
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: this one. This is one of the Whiskey Chiefs selection
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: that you can get. It's actually up the road from me,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: at Mornington Peninsula. The great guys go on a tour there.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: They have great tours are their distillery. So I think
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: this is a very well balanced thing. It is two
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars but pretty good. I think excellent. Well that's
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: it for me. Up now is Janikka di Giorgio. Good night,