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Ep. 637: MeatEater Radio Live! The Doe Derby, Fishing Crappie, and Riding Buffalo · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Smell us Now, Lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia mea podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain
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  Speaker 2: Time on Thursday, December twelfth, and we are here live
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  Speaker 2: for medi to HQ and Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 2: Randa Williams, and I'm joined today by Brody Henderson and
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  Speaker 2: Ryan cal Callahan. Did I get that right?
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  Speaker 3: Nailed it?
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  Speaker 2: On today's show, We're gonna talk to our good friends Bubbly,
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  Speaker 2: Doug Duran and Pat Durkin. We're gonna dig into the
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  Speaker 2: photo archives for another throwback Thursday. We're gonna know We're
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  Speaker 2: going to North Alabama for One Minute Fishing. We'll discuss
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  Speaker 2: our top three wild game and fish species for the table.
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  Speaker 2: And we're doing another highly anticipated installment of the Meat
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  Speaker 2: Eater Movie Club where we will be reviewing the nineteen
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  Speaker 2: seventy eight film Buffalo Rider. Before we get into all that,
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  Speaker 2: I've got an important announcement. There are only a few
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  Speaker 2: more days left to be sure that any last minute
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: orders from the Meat Eater First Light, FHF, Phelps and
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  Speaker 2: DSD stores arrive on time for Christmas. And in fact,
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  Speaker 2: a Little Birdie by the name of Corey Calkins told
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  Speaker 2: me that our twenty twenty five fucked up old shitters calendars.
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  Speaker 2: That's the fed up old shitters calendars. We'll be back
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  Speaker 2: in stock tomorrow, December thirteenth, so get them before they
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  Speaker 2: are all gone, or before a twenty twenty five calendar
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  Speaker 2: is irrelevant. Brody cal It's great to see you both.
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  Speaker 2: How are we doing today.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that calendars go irrelevant because I think
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  Speaker 1: most folks are just ad them for the photos at
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  Speaker 1: this point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And you often walk into our garage and see
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  Speaker 4: a calendar from twenty six years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's usually you know, big Bucks or pin
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  Speaker 2: up gals.
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  Speaker 3: Not I was going to say, the older they are,
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  Speaker 3: the more lud baby.
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  Speaker 4: If it's a good enough shit or it could stand
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  Speaker 4: the test of time, exactly.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Joining us on the line first today are friends of
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  Speaker 2: the program, Doug Durhan and Pat Dirkin, who are joining
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  Speaker 2: us on day one of Doug's Doe Derby in Wisconsin. Gentlemen,
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  Speaker 2: welcome to the show. It's great to see you both.
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  Speaker 5: Visible.
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  Speaker 2: I see, So what is what's going on with the
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  Speaker 2: Doe Derby there? Doug can you tell us what the
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  Speaker 2: Casanovia doe derby is?
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  Speaker 6: Well, the uh, we're started to take your time.
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  Speaker 1: Doug, I'm sorry said take your time.
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  Speaker 5: Is this thing on?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's the same. You don't have the
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  Speaker 3: whole show.
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  Speaker 7: So we started the dough derby a few years ago
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  Speaker 7: as a part of the forty antler list hunt. And
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  Speaker 7: the idea is that we're encouraging people to reduce the
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  Speaker 7: population by taking antler this deer, most of which will
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  Speaker 7: be does of course.
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  Speaker 6: And then the other thing is.
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  Speaker 7: That we're getting them encouraging to get them tested for
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  Speaker 7: CWD if they bring their harvested dough like to in
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  Speaker 7: a trailer over or in our buggy over here that
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  Speaker 7: we got the fine cut the head off submitted for
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  Speaker 7: CWD testing. Inside this thing will be a couple of
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  Speaker 7: tickets that they'll fill out. And through the support of
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  Speaker 7: generous sponsors like like meat Eater and Vortex and can
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  Speaker 7: Am and and but there's a whole list, we have
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  Speaker 7: a bunch of prizes that we give away, so's we're
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  Speaker 7: incentivizing people to h to harvest and get tested for CWD.
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  Speaker 6: And then the other thing that we do is we.
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  Speaker 7: Have this party here on Saturday evening with my tall
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  Speaker 7: friend Pat Durkin will be a part of that. And Uh,
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  Speaker 7: it's just a place where hunters gather and we you know,
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  Speaker 7: tell deer stories and kind of some of the old
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  Speaker 7: school stuff that and I used to enjoy a lot
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  Speaker 7: more when we were kids.
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  Speaker 4: Does Pat have all the prizes in those pockets.
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  Speaker 6: On his bed? Like?
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  Speaker 4: I feel like we do a whole segment just going
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  Speaker 4: through Pat's pockets.
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  Speaker 8: Said, I'm kind of kind of surprised you guys haven't
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  Speaker 8: pointed out that for once in my life, I'm standing
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  Speaker 8: taller than Doug.
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  Speaker 2: I figured it was just the angle of the camera,
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  Speaker 2: or is there? Ah? Yeah, very nice. Well how's how's
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  Speaker 2: the hunting been?
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I got this idea by watching the NFL
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  Speaker 8: one year in a pregame. I walked down the field
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  Speaker 8: and saw Bob Costa sending a box. That's not a
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  Speaker 8: bad idea, so I figured stand. I used to Doug,
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  Speaker 8: I looked like a little kid, So I thought today
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  Speaker 8: we'll change things up a little bit and make him
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  Speaker 8: look up at me.
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  Speaker 3: I like it.
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  Speaker 1: So what is the the deer count? And have you
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  Speaker 1: gotten any testing back yet?
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  Speaker 5: Doug?
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  Speaker 9: Uh?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, we're up to depending on just on the farm
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  Speaker 7: and you know, the properties that I have here, we're
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  Speaker 7: at about twenty five. Unfortunately, the later ones that we
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  Speaker 7: got later in the season, we haven't gotten back yet.
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  Speaker 7: But the unfortunate part is the ones that we got
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  Speaker 7: early in this season, including a nice four year old
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  Speaker 7: buck that I got tested positive. Brock who's holding the
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  Speaker 7: camera here right now, shot a a antlerless buck and
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  Speaker 7: a and it was a year and a half old
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  Speaker 7: I think, and and a two and a half year
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  Speaker 7: old dough and they both tested positive. My nephew Sam
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  Speaker 7: shot a three and a half year old buck and
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  Speaker 7: an older dough when.
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  Speaker 6: They tested positive. So we have five.
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  Speaker 7: That have tested positive out of eleven that we've gotten
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  Speaker 7: back so far.
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  Speaker 3: All right, all right, and then.
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  Speaker 1: Are those your only dough derby submissions the ones in
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  Speaker 1: the canyon there or turned in?
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  Speaker 7: Well, we've got uh. This year, we've expanded, so we
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  Speaker 7: have five different kiosks like this where people can happen,
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  Speaker 7: and the people who are running those kiosks are bringing
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  Speaker 7: the tickets up and it's been really fun because they
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  Speaker 7: people are more you know, it's just more opportunity and
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  Speaker 7: getting more people involved, and I haven't countered them all
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  Speaker 7: up yet, but it looks like we're well over two
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  Speaker 7: hundred and fifty so far.
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  Speaker 3: Wow wow, very cool.
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  Speaker 2: And this is just open to anyone who wants to
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  Speaker 2: participate in the area, is that correct, right?
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  Speaker 7: Anybody who can legally transport a deer, because there's just
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  Speaker 7: all these CWD regulations that we're not going to talk
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  Speaker 7: about unless you really want to. But the CWD regulations
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  Speaker 7: you have to kind of be adjacent, and of course
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  Speaker 7: everybody is sort of adjacent now because of the way
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  Speaker 7: the disease has expanded.
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  Speaker 6: So folks can bring they can bring the head, they
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  Speaker 6: can bring the whole carcascent if they want to. Some
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  Speaker 6: people have just brought the limph notes and you know,
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  Speaker 6: who's gonna lie about something like that.
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  Speaker 7: So, uh, it's been it's been gratifying to see this grow.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, cal you were here the first year and
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  Speaker 7: we had I don't know, you know, less than one
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  Speaker 7: hundred submissions, I think around fifty, and now we're you know,
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  Speaker 7: we're approaching three hundred, so we're excited about that.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's the way these things have to start, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because then everybody who participates win something in the raffle
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  Speaker 1: and word word spent spreads really fast. The other thing
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  Speaker 1: that meat processor that you have up the road. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Kenyan and I were going to come back just
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  Speaker 1: for the dough Derby, just so I can make have
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  Speaker 1: those guys make more brought worst.
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  Speaker 3: That brought Worst is unbelievaba.
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  Speaker 2: I'll testify. I did get to enjoy some of that
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  Speaker 2: brought Worst and it is spectacular.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's great.
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  Speaker 7: We're actually enjoying some of those this weekend as well
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  Speaker 7: as a part of our as a part of the party.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, do you have any idea how many folks
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  Speaker 2: are going to be in attendance at the party.
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  Speaker 7: I would stay somewhere between fifty and one hundred. You
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  Speaker 7: don't have to be present to win, but I will
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  Speaker 7: tell anybody who's who's in the area who might come
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  Speaker 7: to the party. Saturday evening will start at about five
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  Speaker 7: until about eight, that we will have door prizes this
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  Speaker 7: year for only for the people who actually.
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  Speaker 6: Come to the party.
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  Speaker 2: Very nice.
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  Speaker 6: Along with the.
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  Speaker 7: We have a Savage access rifle with a word Tech
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  Speaker 7: scope and a Chris Crafted, a Chris Crafted custom sling,
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  Speaker 7: got a big can Am branded YETI cooler seed from
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  Speaker 7: my friends at Hoxy Native Seed Camp. Chef has given
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  Speaker 7: us as they have in previous years. Are really nice
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  Speaker 7: to burner stove. Our friends at Deck sent us one
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  Speaker 7: of their cases to give away some really great prizes.
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  Speaker 7: Binoculars from Vortex, a full set of meat Eater books,
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  Speaker 7: all signed by Steve. And so those are some of
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  Speaker 7: the prizes for the first drawing. And then we'll have
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  Speaker 7: a virtual drawing the first week of January when the entire.
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  Speaker 6: Season is over with. We have a this four day.
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  Speaker 7: Season and then bow hunting continues and then there's a
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  Speaker 7: holiday hunt. So between December fourteenth, hey, between holidays, right
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  Speaker 7: December fourteenth to January first, there's also another twenty.
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  Speaker 6: That's why I have Dirk and here. It keeps me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, how much up for the festivities tonight?
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  Speaker 6: We have a pretty good pile over there.
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  Speaker 7: We'll be all right, you know, nobody's gonna get nobody's
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  Speaker 7: gonna get cold.
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  Speaker 6: We'll be able to see the fire from a ways away.
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  Speaker 7: So you know, it's we have it's it's I think
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  Speaker 7: we have brought back some of that enjoyment that people
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  Speaker 7: have of getting together. They don't mind standing out in
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  Speaker 7: the cold, and that's why we have a big fire
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  Speaker 7: right and people have really enjoyed coming to that. The
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  Speaker 7: participation has grown in the dough derby, and you know,
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  Speaker 7: there's a lot of discussion about what CWD is doing,
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  Speaker 7: what populations are doing, areas where people are worried that
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  Speaker 7: their population is being not they're not just seeing sick
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  Speaker 7: beer and killing sick deer, but their population a decline.
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  Speaker 7: That's uh pretty hard to point it in other directions
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  Speaker 7: other than chronic wasting disease.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've created a safe place, if you will,
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  Speaker 1: for all these big tough folks to come together and
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  Speaker 1: talk about killing does which is something that's very important,
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  Speaker 1: and what they're going to do with the meat, and
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  Speaker 1: then have thoughtful discussions on CWD and and what they're
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  Speaker 1: going to do with all the cool stuff they want.
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  Speaker 1: You're doing the Lord's work.
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  Speaker 7: Doug Well, and it's great to see we're doing what
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  Speaker 7: we can where we're at with what we've got.
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  Speaker 2: And it's great to see that you have the support
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  Speaker 2: of a bunch of different great brands in the industry
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  Speaker 2: behind this all.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: It really has been and it's not been, uh, incredibly
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  Speaker 7: difficult to get people to step forward. We've had people
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  Speaker 7: come First Light came forward and gave us the five
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  Speaker 7: hundred dollars gift certific you.
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  Speaker 6: Know for first Light. What a great you know, what
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  Speaker 6: a great thing that is.
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  Speaker 7: And it's really uh, it's been great to see that support.
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  Speaker 6: And here we are, sunning standing in front.
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  Speaker 7: Of the kiosk where we where if people do the
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  Speaker 7: when they come in and do the reporting and whatnot,
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  Speaker 7: I don't.
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  Speaker 6: Think they're not.
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  Speaker 2: It's the opposite of a live well.
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  Speaker 3: And you're not on the dough board yet.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I got to on the on the board so far,
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  Speaker 8: and I tried to impress Doug you know that I
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  Speaker 8: actually know how to remove the lymph nodes. So that's
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  Speaker 8: my contribution is in there, just in a little bag.
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  Speaker 6: They look suspiciously like consoles.
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  Speaker 2: Now, is there any sign of our dear friend Chester
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  Speaker 2: Floyd at this gathering?
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  Speaker 6: He will be here on Saturday, Yeah, for the for
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  Speaker 6: the party. He's bringing his.
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  Speaker 7: Son and he said, I'd like to hunt, but I'll
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  Speaker 7: have a two year old with me. I said, I
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  Speaker 7: think I got a spot for you. I'll put him
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  Speaker 7: up there in that office. I got up on the ridge,
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  Speaker 7: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, one of Pat's pockets. I was gonna say, you
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  Speaker 2: might save that, uh, save that milk crate for Chester
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  Speaker 2: if we if we end up going back to you,
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  Speaker 2: very good. Well, guys, it's great to see you, and uh,
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  Speaker 2: congratulations on pulling together another great event. And best of
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  Speaker 2: luck to you in the woods out there.
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  Speaker 6: Thanks you guys, all right, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 2: Couple couple solid folks there. Oh yeah, it is time
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  Speaker 2: for Throwback Thursday, where we dig into the photo archives
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  Speaker 2: and take a trip down memory lane with some of
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  Speaker 2: the crew.
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  Speaker 9: Go back on a Thursday, Mon, Stephen Brody, take me
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  Speaker 9: back to nineteen seventy four. Did I mentioned Stephen Brody?
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  Speaker 6: Our old as?
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  Speaker 5: I love it?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's delightful, Phil, Thank you, really good.
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  Speaker 3: That's really good Phil.
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  Speaker 1: Oh the memories, the memories, the pictures here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get those pictures up.
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  Speaker 1: I was personally shocked that people had digitized memories. I
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  Speaker 1: thought that was the whole point of like going back
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  Speaker 1: and finding the polaroids.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the new memories.
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  Speaker 3: Look at that cute dog. What's that dog?
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  Speaker 2: That dog? That dog is named Jack also known as
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  Speaker 2: Jack Bishkins. He in that photo. God, he must have
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  Speaker 2: been maybe two years old. He lived to the ripe
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  Speaker 2: old age of seventeen. Whoa, and he turned into quite
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  Speaker 2: an asshole in.
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  Speaker 4: Speaking of being old though, Like you can tell that
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  Speaker 4: Randall is not old because this picture doesn't look old.
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  Speaker 5: It's like like high quality. You know that you're mentioned.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is the early day of digital cameras.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how old I am in that photo.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe nineteen twenty. That's my first buck, first white tailed
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  Speaker 2: deer buck. I'm sitting there in Kentucky and I got
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  Speaker 2: that I were sitting in the bed of black Thunder.
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  Speaker 2: It's a nineteen ninety seven Ford Ranger with an orange
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  Speaker 2: racing stripe on the side of it. Just just a
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  Speaker 2: you know, great memory with a good dog, good firearm.
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  Speaker 2: That is a Marlin Model eighteen ninety five g guide
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  Speaker 2: gun chambered in forty five seventy oh wild. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: believe I was shooting a Remington cor locked the four
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  Speaker 2: h five grand soft point and.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, effective range of about one hundred yards.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually this buck I shot him, he was he
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  Speaker 2: was actually locked up with a smaller.
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  Speaker 5: Buck and made that smaller bucks day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I brought an end to their exciting fest.
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  Speaker 5: What did that smaller buck do after you shot the
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  Speaker 5: big one.
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  Speaker 2: It's all it's all a blur. It's all a blur.
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  Speaker 2: But I shot him out of a homemade little crotch
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  Speaker 2: seat made out of some leftover planks of wood and.
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  Speaker 3: Two by fours, right as in the crotch of the tree.
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  Speaker 2: Crouched the tree. Indeed, and then the following year I
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  Speaker 2: shot another ten point out of that same crotch with
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  Speaker 2: that same rifle. So some of my early formative memories
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  Speaker 2: there still got the rifle. I don't great big mistake
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  Speaker 2: on my part.
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  Speaker 1: When I first looked at this, I thought, you're there
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  Speaker 1: is a cemetery as the back dry That's.
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  Speaker 5: What I thought, excited to hear.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's an old Uh. It's an old well pump
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  Speaker 2: with like a crank handle at the Lewis family farm. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: here's another one. This is me in maybe two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and ten eleven with a couple of berbot at the
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  Speaker 2: end of a long summer working in the last where
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  Speaker 2: I have obviously lost my mind.
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  Speaker 1: Do they call him Burbot in Alaska? Or was there
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  Speaker 1: were there any other names for him?
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  Speaker 10: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: The guys I was with called him Burbot.
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  Speaker 5: I think some people call him cusk up there.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I read that.
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  Speaker 5: I think so they got so many different names.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, these are just on set lines and we ran
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  Speaker 2: around in the dark checking lines and then came back
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  Speaker 2: and had a big old.
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  Speaker 5: Cus or loss.
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  Speaker 2: I forget what Herbert fry on my last night up there.
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  Speaker 3: Cool.
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  Speaker 2: So that's me and my amish beard.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I should bring that back.
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  Speaker 2: That's a strapping young fellow.
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  Speaker 4: That's the first iteration of the first light suspenders col.
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  Speaker 1: Wool pants, wool union suit. That's a full one piece
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  Speaker 1: union suit underneath, and then wool sweater. Yeah classic yep.
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  Speaker 1: And if if the suspenders were turned the right way out,
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  Speaker 1: they have little skiers on them, but they are no
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: more because they lost their elasticity a long time ago.
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  Speaker 1: But that's that's my first elk ever.
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  Speaker 3: Right there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How old were you in that photo?
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  Speaker 3: It was high school, probably a sophomore year.
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  Speaker 2: I would think he grew up.
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  Speaker 5: In Montana, right, yep. Did they not have an orange
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  Speaker 5: law back then?
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  Speaker 3: They did?
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  Speaker 1: So this this, this is like a manufactured photo.
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  Speaker 5: I got a lot of people take the orange off
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  Speaker 5: for the photo.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, which I don't. Is never something like I've made
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: a point of But I was out with my hunting
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: mentor my my outfitter buddy, the guy learned everything from
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: and my dad and we and we were it was like,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: you know, a paid hunt. So there were clients in camp,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: which was also like a father son and uh it
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: was just rainy, crappy, very typical western Montana weather, dreary.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Not a lot happened, and we hiked tired all week
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: and nothing was happening. And as we were packing up
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: at the end of that week, the outfitter was like, Pard,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: we got this. Why don't you take one more walk?
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: And so I did, and was in Hunter's orange and
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: had a totally different rifle than what's pictured here. If
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: you look close as a left handed seven mmg you know,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: and you may may know that I would have nothing
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: to do with the seven mm.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Right or left handed. And uh.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, walked walked in and looked down into this cut
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: and there was a cow and a calf feeding there
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and it.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Was all by myself.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: First, OULC was like, oh my god, this is really happening,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: and tried to talk myself out of it and all
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the things and lay down and actually made a Texas
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: heart shot on this cow as she was going out
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: of sight, so shot her right at the base of
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: the spine, and that bullet went in, kicked off her
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: spine and went down through her heart and outer chest.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Textbook.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't didn't hit a stitch of meat. It was
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: like the most crazy shot ever. But you know, as
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: you know, really just a kid cow had a calf.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, somebody else could get
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: this this calf. And so I ran back to camp
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: and I was able to take the other father and
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: son in there, and they shot. The son of the
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: two shot the calf, and so they got to go
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: home with some meat. And Yeah, it was a you know, know,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: a conflicting young man experience, right of like cow and
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: a calf and all, you know, but first elk, Yeah,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: and then and then they were like, you got to
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: get a picture of that thing.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: That's an antelope.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Another mustacheless photo, we do. I did see someone in
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: the chat.
• 21:20
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: There was some question about when you started growing at
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: your mustache, and then some question about when you started
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: losing your hair. So because of the hat in the
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: previous photos, so here clearly you do have a full
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: healthy head.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I rocked a lot of hair. But you know,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: I think it was always on the way out.
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: It was.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: It was fleeting, but I made up for it in
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: the volume that I could grow around the deep pits.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I don't even know remember what happened here with this antelope.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: But that's Ruger M. Seventy seven and eighty all.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: That I had. That rifle, it's a good rifle.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: It is a good rifle. Yeah. That paddle stock, yes
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: it did. Yeah, did I tell yeah?
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the you know, the full weatherized stainless steel. Yeah,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I cannot remember. I think my dad must have killed
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: this buck. I was guiding at this point and Dad
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: came out to camp.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: So I was guiding for the.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Old outfitter and uh yeah, Dad, Dad, that's how that's
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: those Those are the photos we used to take back then.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Primary focus was on getting things gutted fast. And that
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: is still my biggest white tail buck to day.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: This is.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Other than antelope. This is the only shoulder mount animal
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: that I have. And Randall has actually got to see
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: this shoulder mount in person because it's hanging in my
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: buddy's cabin in Augusta.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: It's impressive.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: Yep, oh, there you is.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: I only sent phill one picture. I didn't know we
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: were supposed to send multiples in. But anyway, that's me
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: when I was probably I was probably ten or eleven.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: That's northwestern Pennsylvania on Elk Creek, which is a Lake
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Erie tributary. And back when, back when I was that age,
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: those lake Erie streams used to get They used to
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: have an artificial man made run of cohos chanook and steelhead,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: so you get all three in the streams in the
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: fall for.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: A short period of time.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Anyway, when it started raining in the fall, and that's
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: me working over a steelhead with a with a zeb
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: coo reel, probably a zebco rod reel combo.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I landed that thing and I was like the
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: first big fish I ever landed.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: It looks like you have overboots on.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: I do like what they call us, think galoshes, no waiters.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: My dad was cheap skate back then.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's like you go in as deep as
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: those boots and no deeper area.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: You're getting wet.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: But they're like those streams are weird because they're all
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: shale bottom streams, so it's like a lot of it
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: shallow and then there's like one deep because so you.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Could, so they'll run up and sit in that bucket.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so yeah. Man, I've always loved that picture
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: because I'm really reefing on that fish and I landed it.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: It's good times back then.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and whoever colorized it after the fact from the
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: original black and white a really nice job. I had
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: to get one of those in.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Well that's.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: It for Throwback Thursday. Our next segment is One Minute Fishing.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Do I feel lucky?
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: We'll do.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: You go ahead, make my cast. One Minute Fishing is
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: where we go live to someone who's fishing and they
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: have one minute to catch a fish, and if they're successful,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: we'll make a five hundred dollars donation to a conservation group.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: This week, our angler is Kyle Liibarger, who's at Wheeler
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Lake on the Tennessee River in Alabama fishing for crappie.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Kyle is the founder of the Native Habitat Project, and
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: today he is fishing for a donation to Conservation Fisheries, Inc.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: A Knoxville, Tennessee based nonprofit dedicated to conserving the unique
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: aquatic ecosystems of the Southeast. Kyle, Welcome to the show.
• 25:32
  Speaker 9: How's it going.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: We're doing very well, sir. Welcome to One Minute Fishing.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Have you been fishing? Have you pre fished this spot
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: this morning?
• 25:43
  Speaker 11: Yeah?
• 25:43
  Speaker 10: I have a called about eight or nine keeper crappie
• 25:47
  Speaker 10: and probably twenty twenty five in total this morning, so promised.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: This sounds like a very promising start. We've been on
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: a bit of a dry spell here, and I think
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: that's understating it. So were eager to have someone in
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the hot seat there who knows what they're doing. Well.
• 26:05
  Speaker 10: This pile, it's a tree top and this thing every
• 26:09
  Speaker 10: time I come up to it and I catch one
• 26:11
  Speaker 10: of my first casts usually, so I'm I have a
• 26:14
  Speaker 10: mess with it in like two hours. I'm hoping hoping
• 26:17
  Speaker 10: there's some crappy on it.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: So oh that's dedication. I love it. What's your h now?
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: What's your rig there? What are you fishing with today?
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 26:24
  Speaker 10: I got all. I just got a little spinning reel.
• 26:27
  Speaker 10: It's a fluger and a finwick rod and uh I
• 26:30
  Speaker 10: got live minutes.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, live minos, you said, yeah, yeah, so it's kind
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: of cheating.
• 26:38
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Well, you know, I have petfish at home in
• 26:42
  Speaker 10: my pond behind my house, and so if I really
• 26:44
  Speaker 10: wanted to cheat, I could.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, this seems like a good earnest effort. It
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: looks like you're out there, uh, getting after it. So well,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: your timer and your one minute will begin whenever you
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: make your first cast, So whenever you're ready, Kyle, take
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: a shot, all right.
• 27:04
  Speaker 10: Let's try.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: And the timer is going.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Is it on a jighead?
• 27:15
  Speaker 10: I have a little split shot about six or eight
• 27:18
  Speaker 10: inches up, so that's the way, and just free lining it. Yeah, yeah,
• 27:24
  Speaker 10: sometimes I'll use a bobber, but I use a free line.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: It's like a beautiful piece of water there.
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: Yeah, this is Flint Creek. So we we manage a
• 27:38
  Speaker 10: little grassland at the boat ramp here, but the state
• 27:42
  Speaker 10: lets us manage.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: But twenty seconds twenty seconds on the clock here.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: Pressure's on.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: M would not want to be you right now.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Ten seconds left here, five seconds.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Time.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: I think you just got to go with a ripping
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: hook set just to see.
• 28:11
  Speaker 10: Oh oh look does that count?
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Oh god?
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: The old stickfish.
• 28:20
  Speaker 10: I mean, there is a fish on it.
• 28:21
  Speaker 11: But there he's got a point. It's no arguing with that.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Well, Kyle, I think next time we need to get
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: you out there for your first cast of the day.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: It sounds like you have a pretty good track record
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: when you first get in there.
• 28:34
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, it's a you know, I think you'll need
• 28:36
  Speaker 10: to change it to like, you know, ninety seconds or something.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: We'll we'll put that one past Steve, But he seems
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: pretty firmly committed to this bit.
• 28:45
  Speaker 10: So how many of you, how many have caught in
• 28:48
  Speaker 10: sixty seconds so far?
• 28:51
  Speaker 11: Pat Dirkin did, But that was I mean, that was
• 28:55
  Speaker 11: a special circumstance.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we should have a meeting about this offline
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: and rethink the segment. But Kyle, I think you've raised
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: some very valid points here.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: I'm just trying to make myself feel better.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: So well, we appreciate you, uh getting out on the
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: water for us and uh showing us your your spot
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: there and good luck with the rest of your day. Yeah,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: I appreciate y'all.
• 29:19
  Speaker 10: Give me a chance so I have a good one.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll see again here.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: I did, like I got a call.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I saw one comment in there where somebody's asking for
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: current fishing conditions on Henry's Lake, Idaho.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's what That's just the kind of community
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: we need, just.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Throwing it out into the universe.
• 29:40
  Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, who knows what the show will become in
• 29:42
  Speaker 11: a year.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: It could just be you know, oh yeah, just a
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: live fishing report exactly. Yeah, uh, Phil, Why don't we
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: take a little break here, get some listener feedback. What's
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: happening in the chat?
• 29:53
  Speaker 11: Let's do it.
• 29:55
  Speaker 9: Let's start off with a with a breezy one. I
• 29:57
  Speaker 9: don't I don't know if how people decorate their homes
• 30:00
  Speaker 9: for Christmas? If if anybody but Aaron's asking who at
• 30:03
  Speaker 9: meat Eater has the most festive house?
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: I know, Phil, put up lights?
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: I do.
• 30:08
  Speaker 9: I've got a very basic icicle lights set up with
• 30:11
  Speaker 9: a wreath on the door, nothing fancy. I've also got
• 30:13
  Speaker 9: a one story house, so I can't go too crazy.
• 30:15
  Speaker 9: But yeah, do you guys decorate the exterior of your
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: homes or the.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: Entry of lights on our porch?
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: We're definitely like in our neighborhood where like the lame
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: House screach house.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Phil, are you gonna play coy? Are you
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: gonna let people know you've seen the inside of my house?
• 30:32
  Speaker 11: Well, Randall, I happen to know that you have quite
• 30:36
  Speaker 11: a tree. We do.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: We do have a big home.
• 30:38
  Speaker 11: You too, it's very impressive.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I'd rather have the lame house from the outside, but
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: if you come in, there's gonna be a cold beer
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: and something good to eat.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not one or the other. You can have
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: it all.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Col not with the timeline I have.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Have you seen Cal's garage. He doesn't have any room
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: for distorre. Yeah, like ornaments in the season.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Might need to hang some new shelves from the ceiling there.
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: I'm actually I'm curious, you know the answer to this question.
• 31:06
  Speaker 9: Eric is asking the longest you've gone without punching a tag.
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: He says this is his second year in a row.
• 31:10
  Speaker 9: Have you guys had this speaking of dry spells.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: M Oh yeah, I mean.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I've definitely definitely been there.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I don't have enough self restraint to not punch tags.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: It's been a while since I haven't killed anything. I
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: will say I went my first six or seven years
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: of elk hunting without shooting an elk, and I was
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: on a little streak there, seven years in a row
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: with bulls, and this year it.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: Came to you were way ahead of the odds, So
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: you can't be too unhappy about.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty unhappy, Brodie. Actually, I figure I don't have
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: that many good elk cunning years left, you know with
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: my so I just I'm like when am I hurting,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I'll never get to eight.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: You're already planning, like for your physical just debilitation to
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: the point where you can.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Keep after it. Eric, I mean, ill straighten itself out.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: But the thing is is, like, man, there are there
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: are no days of failure in the woods. Like if
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: you're out there, if you're not killing, you're still learning
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: a lot more than somebody who's not out there.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I will say too a couple of
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: those Like I can think of one bowl in particular.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: We're about to pack up, and we said, before we
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: take the tpee down, let's just go for a little walk.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: You know, we're out here, we might as well put
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: another fifteen minutes in. And I shot that bowl like
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: fifteen yards outside of the tepe. I got out there,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: put my backpack on, took it off, and shot that thing.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: It was just across the canyon. So it can happen
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: at any time, discouraged.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: The more tags you have, the better your chances are.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: That's true. We're pretty spoiled here. Yeah, you got all
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: kinds of seasons to hunt.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Little different, like when you live in a state where
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: you might may only have a chance at Like a dear.
• 33:07
  Speaker 9: Uh Tyler is asking a question for cal Phil Can
• 33:10
  Speaker 9: you ask Cal why no conservation organization right now is
• 33:13
  Speaker 9: dedicated to pronghorn? He could be incorrect. I don't know,
• 33:16
  Speaker 9: so I'm coming to you cal Well.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I mean there's there's a ton of overlap in that space,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: as with with everything. Habitat is is king habitat and connectivity,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: and so you have like a bunch of groups working
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: on a new bill that would incentivize the preservation, conservation
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: and re establishment of grassland ecosystems in North America, which
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: we're losing at an incredibly alarming rate. Everybody should be
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: very concerned about this. They may announce the monarch butterfly
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: being put on the endangered species list, that is like,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: if we can save the monarch butterfly, we're going to
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: be kicking ask for pronghorn.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: So there.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I know there's some folks interested in starting up a
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: antelope prong horn specific organization, but don't feel like that
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: work isn't being done.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I like I do believe there is a
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: group that has recently incorporated and they're kind of bootstrapping
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: it and looking for funders. Yeah, and but I don't
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: know that much about it currently.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: I mean MDF, Mule Deer Foundation, Sage Grouse Initiative, like
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: there's antelope are benefiting, like Cal said, from the work
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: of other organizations.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: So I mean even like RMEF, like Migration Corridor Protection,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: That migration initiative that focuses on that ho back to
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: red desert migration, like the antelope use that migration corridor.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: So but I will say, anaalope a cool critters, incredibly
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: cool tasty critters, and there are.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: Definitely places where their numbers.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah are and very fun to hunt, and so I
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: you know, it would be great if a prong horned
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: specific group could take off and.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or or if some of these other orgs were
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: willing to like really get some dedicated funding in that space,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: because there is some really unbelievable inconsistency on on how
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: those animals are managed at the state level, But there
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: are some federal and state dollars available for like animal
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: friendly fencing that that definitely need more help to.
• 35:50
  Speaker 9: So well, Jared is asking he has a neighbor who
• 35:54
  Speaker 9: raises breeder bucks and does how will that affect his hunting?
• 35:57
  Speaker 9: He can see the high fence from his blind. Do
• 35:59
  Speaker 9: you have any theory res or firsthand experience with this?
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: I got some.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: We used guide on a ranch in Colorado and the
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: neighboring ranch was a high fence elk operation, and all
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: the bugling that would come off that high fence place
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: could could be helpful on the on the other side
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: of the fence.
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I would think if a bunch of those dose are
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: going into Astris and they're you know, essentially chained up
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: at the neighbor's place, that yeah, that's some good scent attraction.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: But you might want to going back to Doug and Pat.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: You also might want to look into the whole c
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: w H get.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Your dear tested.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully there's an exterior fence around the internior fence
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, ways of preventing any nose to
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: nose contact because those operations are inevitably a CWD HOTS
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: on the map.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I would be interested to learn what your experiences are.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Jareded with that, because I think it would be just
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: sort of a novel scenario to watch play out during
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: the rut.
• 37:13
  Speaker 9: Yeah, cool, and we'll do one more for this little
• 37:15
  Speaker 9: segment here, Fantastic John is asking how he can convince
• 37:18
  Speaker 9: his girlfriend to allow him to put a shoulder mount
• 37:21
  Speaker 9: in the bedroom.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: Good luck as it were for me.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, pick your battles, I think.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Are we talking like a prong horned shoulder mount or
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: moose moose sick point bull elk?
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: How tall are your ceiling?
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: How big is the bedroom? How important is it for
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: you to put a shoulder mount in the bedroom. I
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: feel like I have pretty free reign of the house
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: when it comes to stacking skulls and you know, bear rugs.
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: Now, eventually that might end.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Though we reached a satur Yeah there's a point, we're
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: at the saturation point.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: But I've never it's it's never really uh come to
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: a point where I felt compelled to hang on in
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: the bed.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: There's too many unanswered questions here, like is this the
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: only thing this guy would have in his house or
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: does he already have a bunch?
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, the bedroom the only place without a shoulder mountain.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Plus, if you guys are still boyfriend girlfriend, just do it.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you'll find out if you're gonna get married her.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: And that's our segment of Cal's relationship advice, just test boundaries. Alrighty,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: now it's time for another round of Top three.
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: Wow Phil hitting the high notes there.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: That was incredible. I will say for a little behind
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: the scenes look at how things go here. I was
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: in this studio bright and early, and Phil came in
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: and he said, can you please leave? I need to
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: record a drop And I said sure. I said, would
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: you like me to put a do not disturb sign
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: on the door, to which he replied, yes, This might
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: be the most embarrassing thing I've ever done. I know,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I think you're perfectly I mean, you didn't have time
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: to auto tune that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 9: No, that song, really it really shows you the limits
• 39:32
  Speaker 9: of your singing abilities.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: That's go straight from the pipes. I'd take that as
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: a that gets my stamp of approval, Phil, Great, Thank
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: you boy. Thursday is my favorite. This week we'll be
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: ranking our preferred species of fish and game for the table,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: or talking the critters that you're reaching for if they're
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: in the freezer. Brody will start with you. What's your
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: number three choice?
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: Am I doing all three or just my third choice?
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Let's go and row. Let's go your third, cows third,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: my third, your second cow sick in my second, Okay,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: and then we'll continue that pattern.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: But I am going to say that I think that
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: this is one of those like tough and almost kind
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: of meaningless ranking systems because I like all kinds of
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: wild fishing game and it's kind of.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: Like based on the time of year.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: Like I don't have any wild turkey brass in my
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: freezer right now, so like if I had some, that
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: would be my favorite thing to eat.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: I'm just just.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Putting I was gonna I was going to expect that
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: from cow.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like it totally changes you disagree with.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: The press, Yeah, I think I think in the spirit
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: of this of this segment, if it's in the freezer
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: and you think I have X, Y or Z freezer,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: like what what which one are you most commonly going
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: to reach for?
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: It's well, I don't know that it's a common thing either, right,
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: It's like it might be you only have a little
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: bit of it.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Exactly, Brody, what's your number three choice?
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, it's like there's a lot to think about here, Randall,
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: I'll say king salmon, because I only got a little
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: bit of that stuff left right now. And it's like,
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: if you've had the different kinds of Pacific salmon, there's
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: like no question that nocean cock king is the best
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: of them, batty, delicious, No man, King's got kings. King's
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: like bigger and better and it's a cooler fish.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: Everything about it.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: It's good. Col what's your number three?
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Elk?
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Care to elaborate on the reason behind your choice.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Elk is a fine meat, but I don't find elk
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: to be very flavorful at this point in my life.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of variability too, man, Like you shoot
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: an old cow, you.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: Might break a tooth on that thing, or it could
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: be super could be super tender.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: That cow in the in the picture you literally pulled
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: her ivories out what was left of them with your fingers,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: like they fell out super old cow and she was
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: delicious yep. But like I have a bowl in the
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: freezer right now, and the tenderline was like, this is
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: going to take a while.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like the safest bet is to shoot
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: a young raghorn bull because then you know it's not old.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, yeah, timing as early as possible or as
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: late as possible.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I went for elk as well, and the
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: reasons for that are versatility and quantity. There's there's a
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: lot of especially with all that ground and sausage, there's
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: a lot you can do with it, and so it's
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: kind of just our go to and it's also our
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: go to because there's a lot of it for every
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: elk you kill. Mm hmm, yep, Brody, what's your number
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: two here?
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: Oh, I'd I'd probably go with some white meat game
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: bird like blue grouse.
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: Well, i'd go with wild.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Turkey just because you get more of it. I don't know, know,
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: I'm going with blue grouse. It's better than wild turkey.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Blue grouse is fantastic.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: What are you doing with that?
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Typically all different kinds of stuff, man, like you can't beat.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: Just like I like to save the legs from all
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: my game birds and then do something with those. But
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: like the breast from a blue grouse pounded out, just
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: battered and fried on a sandwich.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: It's hard to beat.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, col number two, I say mule deer. So
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'd like I really for whatever reason, don't
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: find uh, you know, even trying to kill big old bucks,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: like I don't find them.
• 43:57
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Chewy, and they have more flavor than elk, So I'd
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: prefer mule deer over elk.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Big mule deer, all right.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: That are living the life of mule deer, a good
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: life far away from agriculture.
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: I went with salmon for my number two, and I
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: couldn't decide between sakkai or king, so I just went
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: with the generic salmon. But I like sake if it's
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: just going on the grill, but I feel like king
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: is more maybe a little more firstile, like for a
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: chowder you have all that extra.
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: Fat and slicing it up and eating it raw.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I love it. I love having a big
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: pile of salmon in the freezer. And for your number
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: one selection, Brody.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: Well, I got a shitload of moose in the freezer
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: right now, so that's my favorite.
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: But actually like it. I think out of.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: The different servid species, moose has like and this is
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: going to sound weird, some people be like, no way,
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: but I think it's like it has a beefier flavor
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: than other deer species. It's like noticeable and it's like
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: you you take a bite of that stuff and it's like, yeah,
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: that's that's like good, good meat and yeah, so I'm
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: glad I got a lot of it right now.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll be enjoying that one for a while.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Ducks, Mallard Ducks or you know Mallard Wigeon, Gadwall fat tails.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, something with fat. Yep.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like that is my Are you familiar with this
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: like girl dinner phenomenon that? Oh yeah, you know that's
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: my girl dinner.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Like I so cal call and snored on the couch. Yeah,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: with a rom com on.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: It'll eat a hole with it. Yeah, I love it.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: So throat on the grill with a big fireball that
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: maybe comes close to burning down your friends on the
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: fourth of July.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep, that type of duck's bread to sop up
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: that fat with Yeah, salt, fat, protein, medium, rare blood
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: all around.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Like that speaks speaks to a person.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Hard to beat.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: I was surprised. Uh. My number one choice is antelope.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: If I get an antelope in the freezer or in
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: some years multiple analope in the freezer, that stuff just
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: goes so quickly because it's simple, you know, seer it,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: cook it, rare salt, and you don't need much else
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: because it's just got so much flavor on its own.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: So I thought I thought this was going to be
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: uh more of a boring segment because it would be
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: on the same page. But I like that we got
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: a little bit of variety here.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I do side with Brody. Here is like,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: you know, some seasons of plenty in one protein department
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: mm hmm. Like I mean, last two years ago, I
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: had two big chunks of blue fin tuna mm hmm,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: and like, yeah, holy shit, man, I.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Thought there was another way to approach this, where it
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: was what's one wildfish or game species that's been in
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: your freezer once that you'd like to see back in there.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like Musko's loin is I think unique and
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: really really fantastic, like big.
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: Horn sheep battie delicious yep.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Hard to acquire, Yeah.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Hard to acquire. Yeah, I'd go with mountain lion.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: Mountain Lion's fantastic.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: If I could shoot a mountain lion every year instead
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: of a deer, I'd probably do that just for variety.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, variety is the key man. You
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: can get sick of anything, Like you to have the
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: best elk in the world, but if you're eating it
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: every day, you're gonna get sick of it eventually.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Like you had a long stretch of being up to
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: my ears and elk meat and not hunting elk for
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: a few seasons, I haven't been like missing elk in
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: the freezer, you know.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: M Well, thanks for playing along, gents, will come up
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: with a more compelling clearcut prompt for our next top
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: three segment.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, always room to improve, you know.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Our next segment is meat Eater movie Club.
• 48:20
  Speaker 9: Oh love what you did there, Phil, It's a menadrie.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: The nineteen seventy eight or perhaps nineteen seventy six. I
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: found a few discrepancies in various sources for when this
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: film was released. The nineteen seven eight film Buffalo Rider,
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: directed by John Fabian, Dick Robinson, and George Loris, stars
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: stuntman Rick Gwynn as Jake Buffalo Jones, a frontiersman who
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: tames an American bison and uses it as his primary
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: mode of transportation while battling both natural elements and human adversaries.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: The film's plot follows Jones, the writer, and his companion
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Sampson the Buffalo, through a series of increasingly outlandish adventures
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: across the frontier. Their primary antagonist is the ruthless market
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: hunter Frank Nesbitt, who the narrator tells us quote loves
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: the killing, and his unsavory gang of hide skinners, Ralph
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Pearson ted Claiborne, who serve as the film's central villains.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: While most peculiar to a contemporary audience, Buffalo Riter's unconventional construction,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: a rough cobbling together of pre existing wildlife footage, stage scenes,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: buffalo riding stunts, and excessive narration, is representative of the
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: low budget exploitation filmmaking of the nineteen seventies. This genre
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: emphasized shocking violence, lurid sexuality, and unusual spectacle to draw
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: audiences away from the production values and narrative coherence of
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: mainstream Hollywood cinema. Beyond a simple representative example of this
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: particular style, however, Buffalo Writer serves as a rich text
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: that emerged from and reflected the speci the specific historical
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: conditions of its creation. Its chaotic, almost anarchic production reflects,
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: no doubt unintentionally, America's fractured cultural landscape in the nineteen seventies.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: This was an era of profound disillusionment in American life.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: The Watergate scandal had shattered public faith in authority and
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: established institutions, the Vietnam War had ended in humiliation, and
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: economic stagflation was eroding middle class stability. In nineteen seventy nine,
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: only one year after the release of Buffalo Writer, President
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Carter would deliver his famous Crisis of Confidence speech, diagnosing
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: a nation that had lost its sense of purpose and
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: direction in many respects. The confusing structure and seemingly arbitrary
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: narrative choices of Buffalo Writer embody the fraying coherence that
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Americans in the late nineteen seventies saw all around them.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Perhaps most obviously, the film's technical shortcomings. Its rough editing
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: and consistent tone, and apparent lack of quality control reflect
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: the decade's material constraints. Likewise, the prevalent drug culture of
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: the decade might help explain some of the film's more
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: bizarre creative decisions. The inexplicable genre hopping between wildlife documentary
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: and Western adventure, the replacement of dialogue with unceasing descriptive narration,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: and sequences like the Buffalo in a Saloon shootout suggest
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: a production process operating on its own might I suggest,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: chemically altered logic, Perhaps most poignantly, much like the nascent
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: environmental movement of the nineteen seventies, which struggled to reconcile
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: ecological concern with embedded cultural practices and market forces, Buffalo
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Riders environmental message, while sincere, is undermined by its own contradictions.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Just as the villainized hide hunters within it, the narrative
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: exploit wildlife for profit, the filmmakers themselves commodify animal violence
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: for monetized entertainment value. As the film's catchy theme song
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: rolls over the end credits, the viewer can't help but
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: wrestle with an unresolvable tension between our heroes guiding ethos
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: and the commercial imperatives of artistic production in capitalist society.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Viewed through this lens, Buffalo Rider becomes more than just
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: a badly made movie. It serves as an inadvertent cultural
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: artifact capturing the disorientation of American life in the late
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: nineteen seventies. It's very incoherence tells us something about a
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: moment when American society itself seemed to be coming a
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: part at the seams, when the old certainties of post
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: war prosperity and progress were dissolving, and new truths had
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: yet to emerge. I give it a ten out of ten,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: and for your viewing pleasure, I am pleased to share
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: one of the YouTube clips that gave this film something
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: of a renaissance in recent years. We're going to watch
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: a brief excerpt from episode two of Guy on a
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Buffalo by the band Jomo and the Possum Posse out
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: of Austin in Texas. Please Phil take it away.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: One day, the guy on the buffalo hopped off.
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: To stretch his legs, walk in the bill.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Hey wants to send the weeds. It's a baby, awesome
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: and put it in a saddle, hopped on, hoped.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: It up the hill and across the blame drying across
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: the river. Not gonna happen, man riding on a buffalo
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: member or keep the baby up floating with your.
• 53:28
  Speaker 11: Guy out the buffalo. Gotta find your friends.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: She's barish, guya love, Hey, you want this baby?
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: She put then a doch you guy.
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: You're welcome. Lady.
• 53:44
  Speaker 11: Gotta bull it on on of my.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: Guy on a full loop. One day the guy on
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: the buffalo walked off.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: It's so good.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: It is so good.
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: No, no better than the movie in Fast.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: The thing is is, this is how the movie is narrated.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: It's like and now he's doing this and this and this.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: That's what's striking to me.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: Got you're straight out and got my back.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, this scene where he shows the scars on his back,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: it's like, well, understand that, get.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Out of here. So there's the animal violence. Yeah, multiple
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: times in this show.
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: Thank you, Phil.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: Definitely get kicked by a buffalo.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Thank you Phil. So I do have a bit of
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: research that I'm tickled to share with you, uh as
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: a bit of a prelude to our discussion. I found
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: an article, uh that was published by the Canadian Broadcasting Company.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Is mister Gwyn who plays Jake Jones is now Burton.
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: So.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: The film was filmed in Utah and Oregon and the
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: lead actor, Rick Guinn, was working for a company that
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: supplied animals for film productions. He was in Missouri to
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: purchase some mules and someone offered to sell him a
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: buffalo as well. He decided to try to tame it
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: so that he could ride it, and he was successful
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: in doing so, and then some filmmakers saw him do
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: that and said, do you want to star in a
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: movie about a man who rides a buffalo? So that's
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: how we got this film. Many many of the scenes
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: were unscripted, and they simply captured what happens when a
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: man is on top of a buffalo. According to Gwinn quote,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: there's still a wild animal, and they feel a little different.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: They're a little more stubborn and not as smart as
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: a horse. It seems his fall off Samson in the
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: film was in fact a real fall that resulted in injuries.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: To questioning that.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: My favorite detail, the mountain lion attack in the film,
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: was in fact a mountain lion attack. The lion was
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: being filmed on the same property for a different production
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: when it escaped the production ran onto the set of
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Buffalo Rider and attacked mister gwyn.
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: But it wasn't a wild mountain lion.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: I mean it attacked him. It was being filmed for
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: like a nature show, and so it it attacked him.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: The cameras just happened to be rolling as he was
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: filming a hunting scene. According to Gwynn quote, I had
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: to kind of fight him off. It was a life
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: or death situation. I kind of had to do something
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: real quick. We had lots of shots like that that
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: were just built in the movie that were accidents. Just
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: changed the script a little bit and continued on.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: But that mountain lion obviously didn't have full Yeah, but
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: when they showed his injuries, those were real injuries.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but they were like they were and.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: That was a real lion.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Had been a real lion, yeah, there, a fully intact
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: lion injuries would have been.
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: The fact that they escaped production.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. The fact that you guys are not listen, I
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: think it's amazing.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: You're not enthralled by the idea that that lion attack
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: was totally listen.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: I have to point something else out here. The fact
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: that that buffalo comes out of Missouri is very telling
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: because you can tell that that thing has a lot
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: of beef Caligi.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yes, So just general thoughts on
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: the film.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: It's a beefalow.
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: It held my attention for less time than your review
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: of the film did and then went back to cleaning guns.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, I think you're crazy, man. Listen. I would watch.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: This over Escanaba in the moonlight. Yeah, nine out of ten. Absolutely.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: I loved the You know if you're you know, old
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: enough to remember like the old the big Long run
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: a Disney movies. Yeah, right, yeah, this is like right
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: in that genre. And then yeah, it has all this
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: like very gratuitous like you know, Nature document What was
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: that guy's name who Grizzly the nature guy who they
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: found out like a lot of the animals in the
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Nature documents his name.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Uh anyways, yeah, I know you'd be like synonymous with
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: nature for a long time. But anyway, yeah, I mean
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: in just crazy departures.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: And Bandit the Raccoon.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: To me, it's it's hilarious because there's like some filmmaking
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: one oh one right where it's like, well, if you're
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: going to talk about it, you have to show it. Yeah,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: and it's be like so then he got on the
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: track and it looked like that of a mule track,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, there's Jake on the track.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Except I liked the part in the film where they
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: mentioned a character who never appears on the stream. He's
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: like he talked to the sheriff and the sheriff said
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: it was okay.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: So he went on, Oh, there's a lot of filling
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: in of gaps with the narration because otherwise.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: There would just be no story and it's just constant narration,
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: which is what are There.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Is a saying in showbiz, you know, it's it's show,
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: don't tell, and they took that axiom and flipped it
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: on its head and it's like, we're actually just going
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: to tell you things that are happening that you won't
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: see happen.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the scenery was great, was great, strongest part of
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: the movie. There's wildlife so well that the actors weren't
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: going to carry any part of this that it's like
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: just lean on the scenery, the narration, and the animals.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Oh the line, the line delivery was insane.
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: What I want to know is like the people who
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: made this movie was it made? Were they serious about
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: like this is like a movie or were they just
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: fucking around?
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: I believe they.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: I believe there were.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: There's a messing around came before it was an actual
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: movie and then somebody was like, yeah, we're gonna pay
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: for this.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: Oh God.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: There was a quote from uh Rick Gwynn that it
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: was essentially just like meant to be a fun, silly
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: family wildlife movie with a bit of adventure. So I
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: don't think it was like done as a parody, right,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean, like it's just like a fever dream.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Like at one point they go with the racket. They
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: follow the raccoon, and the lion tries to drown it,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: but then the lion is in the cold deep water
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: and it can't drown it. So the raccoon gets away
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: and then rides an ice rides a ice flow. Yeah,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: rides an ice flow down the river, thinks.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: Long and hard before he comes near that river again.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. On the next scene, phenomenal the.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: The Pioneer lady, her acting, I mean, they they make
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: the decision to stick with her long. You can see
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: her like emotional wind up to her line, but they
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: show all of that. I mean, it's it's really amazing.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: It's like it seems like so weird and such an
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: outlier now fifty years later or whatever, but really it's
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: not that unusual.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: For the seventies. They made a lot of weird movies.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: Go back and watch easy. You're like Rancho Deluxe, Rancho DELX.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: The raccoon scene in this film reminded me of the
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: like ten minute sex scene in the middle of Rancho Deluxe,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: And you're like, why did they do this. Were they
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: just filming time? It didn't need to be in this movie.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: But Sydney had a theory that the raccoon was important
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: because when Buffalo Jones returned the infant to the ranch,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: you know that the raccoon would have to nurse the
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: baby to health because they made a big point to
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: say that it was a female raccoon to everyone's surprise.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the big reveal, and he got.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: Cobbler and Stu or something. I mean, it was just.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would watch this folks at home. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: this is going to surprise you. It's great. Like there's
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that you're probably numbing your mind
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: with on Netflix.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: Check this one out.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: And I will say the beginning of it, when they're
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: out lining the historical context is pretty solid.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: I was gonna ask you, like historically or the man? Right?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: So how accurate is what they were?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, Buffalo Jones is a real person who's life
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: in no way movie the.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: Whole thing was depicted.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: Well, I thought it was for the.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: Conflict in the movie.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Well they they I mean, these guys had one pack
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: animal and they were hide hunters, so they wouldn't have
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: gotten very far, you know, typically I think they would
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: have operated with a few wagons. But the way that
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: they hunted them, like when he's talking about shooting the
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: lead cow and then shooting the whole herd. I mean
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: a lot of that stuff is straight out of like
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: the sources that you read, right, and the stand hunting
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: like going up and getting you know, sneaking up on herd,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: getting down prone. He even had the shooting sticks at
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: one point, Like that's something.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: That they did some some solid research and laying out
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: the cartridges.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that all seemed.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: And the guys like when the guys like the narrator
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: like then they got the sharps, the big fifty sharps
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: and they were shooting him. I forget he I think
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: he said like to six fifty. Yeah, I don't know
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: how how you know accurate that is. But from the
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: beginning of it, I was like, man, if this is
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: like a documentary or something produced for high schoolers, like
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: this would be pretty informed.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 11: That's exactly what it reminded me of.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 9: Like I'm just old enough to remember, like the substitute
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 9: teacher comes in and rents out like an old VHS
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 9: from the av department and puts it on and like mister.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Jones has a fever, and so I'm gonna just play
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: this film for you to continue our lesson on the
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: West and the destruction of the Bison.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: I said this earlier, but I do think Steve would
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: take issue with with demonizing the buffalo hunters. Oh yeah,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: I like, which is not an uncommon thing in movies, Like.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: Sure, and I did like that they were just like
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: basically thirteen year olds who got into wrestling matches at
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: the drop of a hat. But the one the one
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: guy did have a conscience. He did say at some point, uh,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: he killed the woman. Oh, shoot, you didn't have to
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: do that. And then he says killing women ain't good.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: So killing women ain't no good. That comes from Ralph.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: So I mean they did have there were there was
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: some depth to those characters, but the main hunter, rather
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: than his skinners, seemed to be sort of an unredeemable figure.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: When they first focus, you know, nobody gets to jump
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: on Frank Nesbit. Yeah, some line like that, and then
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: the narrators like Frank Nesbit told everybody about a guy
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: riding a buffalo, and then it's like in the saloon,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: he's like there's.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: A guy riding a buffalo.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: And then he goes up to the bar and he's like,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: there's a guy riding a buffalo.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: We saw him two days from here.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: There's also these nuggets in there that you wonder, like
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: where they going to do something else? Because the camera
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: when he when he rides the buffalo into the saloon,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: the camera makes a point to show you that it
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: knocks over the stove, and we were just waiting for
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: the saloon to go up in flames, you know, and
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: and and then there was really no point.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: For the camera. Too much plot for this.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's also a point where I do wonder if
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: it was a stuffed buffalo head that knocks over the
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: card table in that scene, because it was just a
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: weird cutaway. Also odd like frank Nesbit and the boys
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: are are bad people and Buffalo Jones concentrates of the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: gunfight on the auxiliary character and frank Nesbitt never gets
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: a shot off.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, it also seems.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: It was the only fly I found in the well.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: I think my favorite part of the film was that
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: they ordered Gin and Tonics, a classic frontier drink. Give
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: me that watch, we're getting a couple of gin and tonics.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: And then the fact that they had sort of a
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: dual ending where they filmed the saloon shootout and then
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: they're like, you know, it shouldn't end here. Why don't
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: we just have one of these guys.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: Not be here? My dad told it.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: And then the buffalo can kill him.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But then, man, the chase scene at the end
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: goes like.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: It's phenomenal, It's great.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: I would watch this again.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: It takes that mule a little while to get going though,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: Like the first two minutes of the chase, the mule
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: just seems.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: To interesting deal there too. Where'd the mule come?
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: Did they steal the mule from the wagon train? I guess,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: but no, no saddle.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're asking too many questions.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: I thought it was very strange that they didn't take
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: the wagon itself, because the primary their primary motivation in
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: all this was just logistics. They wanted to be able
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: to transport more hides, and so they killed his family
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: and then they leave the wagon there. But like the
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: reason that they first tangle up with buffalo Jones because
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: he looks at the buffalo and he says, boy, that
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: could carry a lot of stuff. Let's kill that guy
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: and take his take his mode of transportation.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And the whole time the costumes, I just kept
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: thinking I was watching like a Jethrow Toll documentary. It
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: was just like it was like, ye, if you tamed
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: back the fringe just a little bit and added like
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: a feather in the hair, were at Woodstock all of
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: a sudden.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: Well no, I mean yeah, they're in easy Writer. Yeah right,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: That's Hie seventy one that much different from the eighteen seventies.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, Like no, I mean the fashion was po wore.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: The same kind of shit. It all, it all comes
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 5: there dirty, like yeah. Yeah.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: The I thought that Buffalo Jones really had a very
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: striking resemblance to like nineteen seventies, you know, portrayals of Jesus.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: The long hair, the beard, and he's just always sort
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: of has his contemplative look on his face. There was
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: a lot to unpack here.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: There was there a real buffalo being shot, yes, and
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: definitely real dogs being kicked, and definitely a real mountain
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: lion getting punched in the face.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that first buffalo that gets shot in the neck. Yeah,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: I read somewhere someone claimed that they had trained them to.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 5: Fall when that's rubber bullets, but yeah, I don't think so.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: That's I have interesting to find out when Hollywood really
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: started cracking down on that stuff, because like animals got.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: Shot and like.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: Stampede scenes, like somebody's breaking the legs.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of horses get killed in Hollywood. Boy,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: thanks for indulging me and taking an hour and twenty
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: eight minutes of your time to review that film, because
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: that just tickled me to death.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Oh again, I'd watched that over asking abb in the Moonlight.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: And thanks to our audience for the recommendation that one
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: did come to our inbox as a as a suggested
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: film for discussions, So thanks very much for that. It
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: was just a real pleasure, Phil. I think that's about
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: time for today. But do we have any more items
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: from the chat that you like?
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 9: Sure you've got a few, not not a whole lot.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 9: Came in and John's just asking a general bow question.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 9: What bo's did you guys use this year, if any,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 9: and are you excited for any new ones?
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: A six milimeter creed more.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: I got a rob Lee bow out of Texas new
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: re curve that is absolutely bad ass.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: It's the first new bow I've had in a long time,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: really really awesome, awesome bow, and I'm not looking for
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: another one.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't add anything to that.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: Great.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 9: Mountain Bucks is asking if you've ever eaten Bobcat and
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 9: what's better, Mountain Lion or Bobcat.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 6: I have.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: I've had Mountain Lion tacos a couple of times.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean it's it's good.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't think I'm eating Bobcat.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: I have. It's very similar. Yeah, I think you can.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: You get the right line, You're gonna it's gonna be
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: a little fattier.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you just have more to work with,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: you know, like those loins and stuff on. These animals
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: have a lot more sinew, and so yeah.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: You probably get more meat off of what like a
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: wild turkey gobbler then you'd get off of a Bobcat.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah probably, Yeah.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 11: Yeah, Cal, what's your beer of choice?
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 9: Some typos in this in this question, So I'm kind
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 9: of just making an assumption that that's what you're.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 11: Asking, kind of like you don't like beer or lights
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 11: of your.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: Choice right now?
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: There always used to be like all these good seasonal
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: dark beers that come out around Christmas time and for
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: whatever reason, and here in bos Angelus, you know, cultural Mecca,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: you can't get any of them.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: So that's the only part of the War on Christmas
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: that's succeeding.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Phil found jubile Ale and that's good stuff. Nincossi
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: had I think it's Nincosi had Slayer.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, So Nincosi used to distribute to southwest Montana
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 9: and then there was some some some distribution of war
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 9: happening and and uh, someone pissed someone off, and then
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 9: they stopped distributing.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: Nincossia was a Slayer was good? Yeah, yeah, So I like,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: I like both ends of the spectrum. Love Rainier when
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: it's hot, and uh, you know, you just want to refreshing,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: very light, generic logger. But other than that, it's got
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: to have some some flavor, like a really good pilsner
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: or get into the dark beers.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: Got a six pack of the Bavic super Pills.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: That's a Bombic super Pills. Yeah, that's good stuff. Yeah yeah.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 9: And then just for the freaks out there, another plug
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 9: for the meat Eater Dungeons and dragon session. I'm saying
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 9: this on record. It will happen in twenty twenty five.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 9: I don't know if you will ever see it.
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  Speaker 2: It might not be official.
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  Speaker 11: No, it will not be official.
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  Speaker 9: It will be It will probably be me in the
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  Speaker 9: Spencer's kitchen, hopefully Randall's there and a couple other people.
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  Speaker 2: When you asked me to join your dungeon or whatever
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  Speaker 2: it's called, I did say yes, you did. I preface
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  Speaker 2: that with the caveat that I don't know what I'm doing,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm I'm down.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, And if if any of you know any sort
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  Speaker 9: of outdoor like hunting, animal tracking centered one shots, let
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  Speaker 9: me know, because I'm probably not gonna write my own
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  Speaker 9: m because I'm lazy and not that good.
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  Speaker 11: So hit me up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you to explain one shots for
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  Speaker 2: me once we sign off here.
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  Speaker 11: Yes, sounds good.
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  Speaker 9: Uh, and yeah, I think that's all we got for questions. Well,
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  Speaker 9: we're already we're alread running a little long here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a meaty episode. Before we go, I
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: would like to make a couple of quick announcements. We
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  Speaker 2: are in fact going to do a great American venison
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  Speaker 2: jerky competition, and we will have more details for you
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  Speaker 2: in the new year. In the meantime, start perfecting your
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: venison jerky recipes. And thanks to everyone who already emailed
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: us about their jerky. The inbox has been overwhelmed with
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  Speaker 2: interest from prospective contestants and we appreciate your enthusiasm. Also,
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  Speaker 2: as we mentioned last week, we will be pre recording
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  Speaker 2: episodes for the holiday break and we would like to
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  Speaker 2: address listener questions. So if you have a burning hunting
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  Speaker 2: and fishing question that you'd like the crew to answer,
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  Speaker 2: send it along to Radio at the meat Eater dot com.
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  Speaker 2: That's Radio at the meat Eater dot com and looking
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  Speaker 2: forward to recording that episode. It should be a fun,
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  Speaker 2: fun little hour of discussion. With that, I'll just remind
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  Speaker 2: you to get those holiday orders in quickly so your
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: gifts arrive in time for Christmas. Keep an eye out
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  Speaker 2: for our restock of the fucked Up old shitters calonder
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  Speaker 2: and we'll sign off from Bozeman, Montana. Thank you for
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  Speaker 2: joining us.
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  Speaker 5: Happy holidays,