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Buffalo Bills Day 2 Draft Picks: Keon Coleman, Cole Bishop, & Dewayne Carter| C1 BUF & DC · Disguised Coverage

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  It's thirty eight. All Bills can win in here, Wake puts it down,
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  the kick is on the way and dock m the bell? Good one?
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  How the hell that one home? How one? They were a party
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  one not party way? Incredible? Why not combat by my bell? Jacksonville's
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  perfect record on the line right here, quick kicking, look excited. Touchdown
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  Kyle Williams touchdound amazing, unbelievable. They puttied william Who's hats to full back
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  and he scores a touchdown. It's wealthier to face tackle. Good evening and
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  welcome to the cover One instant reaction to the Buffalo Bills twenty twenty four draft
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  class with our first three additions. You are joining Greg Thompson and Anthony Prohaska
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  talking tonight about the three newest members of the Buffalo Bills. Florida state wide
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  receiver Keon Coleman, Utah safety Cole Bishop, and Duke defensive tackle d Wayne
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  Carter. Anthony, how are we doing? I'm good. I am pretty
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  whelmed with everything in a good way. And it was just nice to actually
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  see draft picks happen on this day of the draft so we could do this
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  show and we got to see some stuff and it's fun to see. I
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  don't know, just the chaos of Twitter, and I mean the chat right
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  now is a pretty good microcosm of oh Man. I like this oh Man
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  to see the plan and then others who think everything's on fire and the Bill
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  should pack up shop. So I'm doing good. How are you good?
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  Good? I've got great news for Bill's fans who are going to listen tonight.
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  I didn't like the Josh Allen pick. I didn't like the Treil Bernard
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  pick. I thought Matt Mulano was the second best fifth round linebacker we took
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  that year. I didn't like the James Cook pick. So you guys are
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  going to feel great after I tell you how I feel about a couple of
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  these picks, cause there's some really good precedent that they're going to turn into
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  awesome players. So let's start. Before we get into the players, we're
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  going to go through a lot of the detail of who they picked and why
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  and what some of the things were. But Anthony and I were ready to
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  give you guys a show last night. And first they traded down from twenty
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  eight to thirty two, and we were still ready, and we were so
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  like, all right, we're going to get a pick, and then they
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  went from thirty two to thirty three, and all hell kind of broke loose
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  and we were like, what do we do now? How does this work?
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  So Anthony, share with the folks, like how you were processing how
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  we got to this point having picked thirty three, those two trade downs,
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  some of the alternatives that were on the board there, and people I liked
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  Xavier look at more than Xavier Worthy. I know you were a big fan
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  of Xavier Worthy. They had both of our guys, you know, as
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  we kind of did our last show, Like I even joke like, hey,
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  just give me somebody named Xavier. So we had both of them literally
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  in our path, and they went in the two slots of the picks we
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  owned. So I was going through it a little bit. I won't lie,
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  I was. I was not feeling the best about how things ended last
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  night. I got my head around it today. I went through the list
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  of available players and that really helped me process where things fell. So how
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  were you once you kind of got your bearings and how you went through it
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  last night? I was cool. Once they traded back to thirty two and
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  got the third round pick that had been my dream all not all off season,
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  but it was one of the things like top on my priority list,
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  and I recognize especially when the trade came out. I know there was the
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  tweet that it was like the tenth cheapest trade up in history, and so
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  that made Bills fans have said, and then people were looking at the trade
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  chart and the value wasn't enough in the bills favor. There's a lot of
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  quality in this draft class that was going to be had on Day two so
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  tonight. So the round two and round three picks, even with how the
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  board looks, the first twenty picks in round four could also be really good
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  as well. This is where like the best value existed in the draft class.
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  And given the Bills roster and the needs and their need to get cost
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  effective young talent in the building as they start this Josh Hallen Josh Allen capit
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  cycle see all these teams with franchise quarterbacks do. I thought having more swings
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  at the plate on Day two or in the first hundred picks was a good
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  thing. So I liked that they moved back, and then again I them
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  moving back and moving to thirty three from thirty two. If you're confident that
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  the guy that you really want is still going to be there when you move
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  back, why not like who cares like you're going to get more draft picks?
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  And but I think fans were upset because they wanted Xavier Worthy, or
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  they wanted exavierly Get, or they wanted somebody else. And at the end
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  of the day, the Bills didn't want either Exavier Worthy or Xavier the Get,
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  which I still think is a little disappointing. But I think them sticking
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  to their board, sticking to their plan getting more picks is cool. I
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  still would have maybe preferred some other options, but I like the idea of
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  getting you know, more potential swings at value in the first three rounds.
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  Yeah, I think you know, so much of this changes if just if
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  that pick when they trade, Let's say they still make the exact same trade
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  with the exact same teams and another very like logical intelligent value pick at a
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  position of need, Kansas City takes Tyler Guide and they take off as a
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  tackle Tyler guiton they took a tackle in the next round. This entire perception
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  is completely different, and the Bills did nothing different, no different thing,
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  they knew the guy they wanted. They obviously knew at twenty eight and thirty
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  two that they wanted Kean Coleman. They could have just taken Kean Coleman.
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  They knew that who they wanted. It. I won't lie. It kind
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  of sounds like Josh Allen has influenced yeah, in a like I'm not going
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  to say like you know he made the pick, but it kind of sounded
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  like a meaningful way. It was kind of like the like the like the
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  c. J. Stroud tanked out thing last year. We told them like,
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  hey, like get tanked out and get me this side. Yeah,
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  even in the phone call to Keon Coleman from Brandon Bean, like three different
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  times, he made sure to reinforce how excited Josh it or how excited the
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  quarterback was about this pick. So like it was just odd, so whatever
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  for whatever reason. So if they knew that and you're in those spots,
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  well then you know the entire mechanism of hey, why do you trade down
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  when you know who they were going to take. It's like, well,
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  if you don't do that, then they're just gonna sit there and take him
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  at thirty two. Anyways, and then you get nothing. You don't.
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  You don't get Dwane Carter for free. You get one of the best remaining
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  defense tackles in the right at the end of a tier of defensive tackles where
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  it really drops off. After him, we got like an impactful, rotational
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  guy who's gonna we'll talk about him and where he fits in behind at Oliver
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  later on in the show. We got him for free, for something that
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  if we didn't do that, Kansas City would have just taken. Say,
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  if you're worthy anyway, whenever their spot was, whether it was swapping with
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  Dallas or whatever or waiting to thirty two, it's just taking their guy.
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  Yeah. So those two moves we didn't there. Neither of them were windfalls.
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  There were both fair trades. We didn't lose either trade, but we
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  didn't get the normal like, hey, the team trading down gets huge benefit.
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  We didn't get that. We just got fair value to be able to
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  move down, which is fine. It was just me being able to say
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  it's a four pick swap, like there wasn't gonna be. That was my
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  initial feedback on when people that all us the tenth cheapest trade. The Chiefs
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  only moved up four spots, and it's not like those four spots were from
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  eight to four or from ten to six. You went from thirty two to
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  twenty eight, Like nobody's given up, Like, hey, I want to
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  move from thirty two to twenty eight. Here's my second, my fourth,
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  and next year's third, Like you're not getting end. Shout out to our
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  guy uber Hanson who literally like coded and built his own trade value chart with
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  all of the most recent valuations and like statistically would show you on the curve
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  that his is slightly more accurate than the rich Hill chart, which is like
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  the second most accurate one lately. Here he actually he went at self Welder
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  of ESPN pretty hard on some of these, saying, like, I have
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  no idea what you're talking about. I have all one hundred and ten first
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  round trades in front of me for non quarterbacks, and the bill's value is
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  sixty fifth, Like it's not the lowest ten, it's actually completely average and
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  normal, and like this is what that trade would get. Here's all the
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  examples, And he gave like a handful of other examples of exactly moving from
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  twenty eight to thirty two and what those other ones were, Like no,
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  this is what they get. I have no idea what you're talking about.
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  So shout out Tuber came back with legitimate AMMO and examples. So we go
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  through all that, and then we have today and you kind of have all
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  day and you know, I won't speak for you, but I think all
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  of us had moments of like, are we gonna take Cooper to Jen?
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  Like, yeah, is it john Is it Johnny Newton? You know,
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  I wanted it to be Newton. That was my whole like for it.
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  But the whole day I made my peak. I don't dislike Cooper Degen.
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  I think he's a bit of an enigma and I don't love him, but
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  I like made my piece literally at like about four thirty today where I was
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  like, it's going to be Cooper Degen whatever, It's fine, Like I
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  made. I just made my piece and expected I didn't think. I thought
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  it was going to be him up until they showed the bills like on the
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  phone and shaking hands, and they cut to the IOWA feed and Cooper wasn't
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  on the phone, and then I was like, Okay, it's not him.
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  And then I was like who else is it going to be? And
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  I was hoping it was going to be Newton because they showed him on the
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  phone like forty five seconds earlier, and I was like, oh, but
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  there was just obviously a random phone call, and like, I'm not a
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  sourceless guy, I'm not an insider. I don't know crap. I have
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  a handful of people that like to dm ME stuff, and a couple of
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  them are right enough that I know they do have some information. We're like,
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  all right, they're right in three of them dm three separate people disconnected
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  all dm ME today saying it's Cam Coleman, and I was like, oh,
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  uh, oh, so that happened at like eleven and one and two
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  thirty. So, like I put out a couple of tweets, like just
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  randomly because I had like the thing before, right around right after the combine
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  where everyone was off the Keyan Coleman train and everyone wanted Brion Thomas Junior.
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  I had like the just you know, pithy uh tweet about like no,
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  that's right, I want him even more now that you guys don't want him,
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  like Michael Scott even I retweeted that, and then I think it was
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  who's Marino's co host on Draft dudes. Crabs, Yeah, caw crabs put
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  out a thing saying who's gonna take key on Coleman today? And I just
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  Coote tweeted and said us nice, I like it and just waited and be
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  like, you know enough people told me that, and then of course it
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  happened, and then everyone I had at least like two dozen replies of this
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  is your fault, you did this, I'm sorry, this is this is
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  the cost of having to learn the breadth of my powers. And I you
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  know, it's not who I wanted. But you know, I even went
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  back and I want to like be honest with myself when I listed out my
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  board for today, he wasn't that far down, Like he was the eighth
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  guy I had. I had Dejeene Newton eighty, Mitchell McConkie, Jackson,
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  Powers Johnson, I had Zach Frazer, Kulaide McKinstry, Keane Coleman, and
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  Marshall Neiland like I had him right there, like I had him in the
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  top group. He is the type of player that we need. And I've
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  seen a lot of things in the chat of different comps, and I've seen
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  some like he's not Calvin Benjamin like he is ridiculous. I've even seen some
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  Marcus Colston who that's not like disrespectful, Like Marcus Colson is a very good
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  receiver, but he was like an an kum Bolden type power forward guy.
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  This is a like we're talking pre show, like if you're talking about a
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  ceiling like he is a T. Higgins kind of player, like he is
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  like when you talk about a guy who's six four with the long arms and
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  has a thirty eight inch vertical and can go way up there and get the
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  ball, Marcus Colston couldn't do that. Calvin Benjamin couldn't do that. Like
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  like he may not be he's not Xavier worthy athletic, but he's athletic.
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  Like you watch his highlights and you talked about you know he was a good
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  putt returner. Yes he's athletic and just like real, I didn't want to
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  interrupt, but just on that quick like moment, like this is Calvin Benjamin's
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  mock traftable and you can see where he exists for Julie Scott, Tory Gurley,
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  all the biggest guys, Ricky Seels, Joe literally a tight end,
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  Juwan Johnson really ridiculous, but keep an eye oft for like broad jump in
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  the vertical, like these pieces that measure explosion, no explosion, there's Calvin
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  Benjamin. This is keyon Coleman. Look at his broad look at his vertical
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  like the old man going yes, nay, it's nice. The only thing
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  connecting them is the forty yard dash piece. And everybody keeps tying into that,
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  like, well, he's slow, and he's really not, and then
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  you tie in the slow like we talked about performing on live then people conflate
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  that with on athletic. Yes, well, and I do actually appreciate how
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  transparent. Brandon Bean was in his press conference last night saying, hey,
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  we got the GPS data. We could see how fast he plays, and
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  he said he was. He didn't just blow smoke and be like, oh,
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  yeah, he's a four or four guy. He actually said he's not
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  a four or four guy. He said, if he said if he was
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  a four to four guy with the rest of his profile, he wouldn't have
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  been available here. He would have gone earlier, he said, But he's
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  a four five guy. Like he plays as a four or five guy,
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  he's not a four to six guy. You know. We talked about the
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  things he ran the high is miles per hour in the gauntlet brill They actually
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  I didn't realize they tracked like when they were running the slant in the post
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  and the go and the different routes. While they were running routes at the
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  combine, he was the third fastest in the post, the second fastest in
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  the slant, but like third, fourth, and fifth in a handful of
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  those ones. So he plays faster than what he times, yes, which
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  is fast enough. Like he's fast enough. He's not pulling away from people.
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  He's not gonna He's not like the Xavier log at like seven yards slant
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  taking eighty years to the house. But some of those guys also aren't going
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  up over dbs to take the ball and bring it back down. So talk
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  through a little bit what you saw when you looked at Kean Coleman, the
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  good and the bad. You know, we'll be transparent on the things that
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  we're excited about, some of the things that maybe aren't a logical fit of
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  what we've seen before, and then maybe we'll talk about is that an indicator
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  of maybe some changes and some things we want to see from Joe Bray in
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  this offense or the next evolution of usage from Josh Allen. Absolutely and so
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  just starting off for me, so he was my wide receiver nine ahead of
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  him, I had Marvin here, so the big three, and then I
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  had Worthy at four, BTJ at five, Mitchell at six, Maconkie at
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  seven, Ricky pier Saw at eight, Coleman at nine, and then the
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  get at ten. He went wide receiver eight. Yes, and so I
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  just I want to grab a couple like this. I'm gonna start just with
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  some of the questions from the chat or the comments. So how is that
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  a ridiculous comp? Benjam was a much higher rated prospect than Coleman was in
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  his draft class. It's a ridiculous comp because they don't play anything alike and
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  their measurables aren't anything alike. Calvin Benjamin did not have the athleticism that Keyon
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  Coleman has. Key On Coleman returns punts, key On Coleman catches smoke screens
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  in bubble screens and shakes guys and then gets yards after the catch. They
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  are nothing alike in their play style or really in like their I guess big
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  Florida State receiver is there. I was only half joking like if Calvin Benjamin
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  was coming out today rather than a decade ago, he would literally be a
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  tight end, like not joking, like not joking and pretending he would be
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  a tight end in today's offense, and he would have been recruited, Yes,
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  absolutely. Or if he's a receiver, he's like a fifth round graded
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  guy because of lack of speed and he's stiff in it and unathletic and can't
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  hit those pieces in that type of skill set doesn't really exist now. And
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  then we have to get out of this chief's mindset like this common here.
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  If Coleman was any good, the Chiefs would have drafted him. This ignores
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  scheme fit, It ignores x's and o's and schematics, it ignores the build
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  out of the room. There's just so many ways to like pigeonhole ourselves into.
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  Like I think, for me, the wrong thinking with Coleman. And
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  I do understand that the Chiefs hold on Anthony. That's ridiculous. The Chiefs
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  are flawless at receiver. Mikael Hardman, Tony marcusveldis gantly and like they do
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  not miss at wide receiver anyone that the Chiefs invest in a receiver is only
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  good. Ever, yes, crushed it. Every single person who they pick
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  there is absolutely fantastic. Actually two They've invested in sixteen receivers over the last
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  stretch here, including free agents and draft picks, and they've literally had two
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  hits out of sixteen. Rashi Rice, I'm giving them a hit on Rashi
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  Rice that being polite, he might play this year in the end of it.
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  Also hit someone with his car double six people, I think six people.
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  That's Tyreek Hill grand Slam, Tyree Co grand Slam. Not a great
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  person, amazing football player, yes, Rashie Rice also not an amazing person,
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  potentially pretty good football player. And then every single other the other ones
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  were zero for fourteen. So using the Chiefs as this paragon of receiver evaluation,
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  they're really really bad at it. They just they have Andy Reid and
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  Patrick Mahomes and that makes everything okay. That's it. That's literally it.
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  They're not any good at picking receivers. They just have Patrick Mahomes and Andy
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  Reid, who are two of the greatst people to ever do what they did,
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  and they make everything okay. Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes works, and
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  Travis Kelce works and multiple all pro offensive lineman work, and a good running
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  game works, and all these little pieces that I'll add up. And yeah,
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  so with Coleman again, he was my wide receiver nine, We'll start
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  with the pros. And I do think one like, we do have to
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  get away from this thinking. I'm not even saying this because the Bills drafted
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  him. I've said this on Twitter going across the past couple of weeks.
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  We have to get out of the mindset of a forty time equals athleticism.
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  That is not true whatsoever. So yes, keyon Coleman ran a four six
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  at the combine. I can't wait till they stop running them. And they
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  just public published the gy We literally don't need forties anymore. We know how
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  fast they are with shoulder pads on in a helmet and holding to football.
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  That's all I care about. Just share the GPS data, That's that's all
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  I want. Everybody gets trackers. We shared for everybody. And then also
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  while we're at it, let's put chips in the ball so we can have
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  like real measurements for first downs like soccer has va AR technology are and you're
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  getting way to use the tech like especially too, like the Senior Bowl does
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  it. Everybody's geared up with the zebra stuff and you get the results every
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  day like distance covered and miles per hour and all that, which would be
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  beautiful. So, yes, he's not a burner by any stretch of the
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  imagination, especially compared to a lot of the names that Bill's fans wanted,
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  like Brian Thomas Worthy, even guys like Vicky Piersoll like gat. Yes,
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  these guys are legitimately very fast players and they can get down the field in
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  the straight line. That is not Coleman's game. He is not a burner.
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  He's not this huge field stretcher he is And I think this was a
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  great comp Nate Tice on the Athletic Tonight said that he was like, oh,
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  he's a dunk artist. He's Sean Kemp And I was like, oh,
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  that comp is so good. When Eric and I broke him down in
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  the film room when we did our compaps like two or three weeks ago,
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  our comp for him was Drake London and Dantevian Wicks. Dantavian Wicks starting to
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  break out a little bit for the Packers, and then I think everybody knows
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  who Drake London is also shout out to like the Falcons weapons. I hope
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  they finally do something with Kirk Cousins or Ornx. Yeah. Once he's like
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  thirty five, I don't know, right for forever and the skill set that
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  Coleman brings again, you're not field stretching. He's not a separator in terms
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  of his route running. He lacks refinement in his route running. He there's
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  not a lot of precision. There's not a lot of sharpness to his game.
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  He's not consistently separating in the stem or even on his breaks. And
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  even from a press standpoint, I think he could be more efficient in beating
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  press and getting out out of that. And he just overall to kind of
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  like broad brush it. He lacks refinement polish in his routes and his stems.
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  So from a deception standpoint, efficiency standpoint footwork, you gotta clean up
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  a lot of that. But what he has is the size, the frame,
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  the athleticism, tremendous hands, a four point two career percent drop rate,
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  which is absolutely tremendous, And you saw it in that gauntlet drill.
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  Like not only was the miles per hour impressive, but it was the way
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  he held the line and every time Dame Brugler said it when I had him
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  on his guy's coverage a couple of weeks ago, every time the ball touched
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  his hands, it just stopped like it was just strong hands, grab,
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  grab, grab. And he never double catches, never clutches, never,
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  almost never body catches everything. It snatching snatch. The one that's really real
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  to see. And it was the first game from this past season. He
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  got just the touchdown in the corner against LSU and the corner like Coleman catches
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  it like this, falling backwards and the corner has his hands right there to
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  punch it out, and he's also trying to rip it out and Coleman just
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  has it and he can't, like the corner can't do any and the corners
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  in a tremendous position. The hand placement is great. It's almost like teach
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  tape from the corner perspective. But Coleman's strong hands make it make him win
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  out. And that's what you get with him. It's when he separates.
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  He's doing it with physicality in the stem like he's chucking dudes off him,
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  or he's separating at the catch point with the size, the length the frame
• 23:10
  and the athleticism all paired together, and if you want to know about his
• 23:14
  athleticism, like, well, no, he's slow, he's not athletic.
• 23:17
  There's that tweet out there from real analytics where he was graded. I'll go
• 23:22
  across everybody in this class. I think is the most athletic dude out of
• 23:26
  everybody, like more athletic with their in game like athletic explosion, explosion,
• 23:33
  you know, leaping ability, all the different pieces and again not just the
• 23:37
  you know forty, not just straight line feed which how often do you actually
• 23:41
  get to run straight lined? All this? Yes, so he doesn't happen
• 23:45
  those explosive things also coming into play with acceleration and his ability to get you
• 23:51
  know, in and out of space to be able to go and do those
• 23:52
  things. So nobody's having a guy returned punts if they're unathletic. Similar here,
• 23:57
  this is also a horrible comp He's not gave Davis two point zero.
• 24:00
  You if you think he's gave Davis because he's a big bodied guy and a
• 24:04
  good blocker and doesn't always separate. I understand what you mean, but I
• 24:08
  don't think that's what it what it it means and No, he's definitely not
• 24:12
  Gabe Davis did not have this level of athleticism paired within his size and frame.
• 24:18
  It's not they're not aility, no, or the catching ability like Lean
• 24:23
  Coleman's out there, the one you love, the one hander against Sarahcuse this
• 24:27
  year. It's the catch radius, it's the athleticism, it's the pause.
• 24:30
  I don't know what his ceiling truly is, but it's exciting that he's really
• 24:36
  just started to get it, get into football. He's twenty or about to
• 24:38
  be twenty one years old, so he's got his twenty one this summer.
• 24:42
  Yes, the ceiling is potentially exciting given the traits that he has. If
• 24:47
  you can polish up his route running or add some deception to him, it's
• 24:51
  it's it's exciting and intriguing, and he presents a skill set that isn't present
• 24:55
  in this room. I keep saying it like the Daniel Jeremiah quote of build
• 24:57
  your receiver room like a basketball lineup. The Bills have a bunch of point
• 25:02
  guards and shooting guards. They don't really have a lot of like three and
• 25:06
  D or power forwards or small Fords or centers. They have Matt Collins and
• 25:08
  a bunch of guards. Keyan Coleman with his size, frame and athleticism,
• 25:12
  adds a different dynamic to this group, and if you can polish him up,
• 25:17
  it's a potentially very interesting seiling. Yeah, and I think, you
• 25:21
  know, again, it's not the guy I would have picked. I wanted
• 25:23
  them to just sit and take Xavier, like even when they got there.
• 25:27
  I would have taken a chance on the athleticism of Adi Mitchell. I even
• 25:32
  wouldn't have minded the setup of Lad McConkey. But I think the fact that
• 25:37
  he wasn't necessarily like our number one choice isn't the same as, oh,
• 25:42
  this guy is a bum, like he no, like this is the range
• 25:47
  he was supposed to go. This is that matter of fact. I think
• 25:49
  he was probably hurt more by the post football draft industrial common more than any
• 26:00
  other prospect. If you go back in the season, he was consistently talked
• 26:03
  about as like a top fifteen pick, and they, oh, he'll never
• 26:07
  be available when the Bill's pick, Like he was consistently talked about well ahead
• 26:11
  of Brian Thomas Junior and people like that. He was talked about right after
• 26:15
  the top three. So like I, I you know, it's say,
• 26:21
  sometimes it's good to step back and realize that, hey, like no one's
• 26:25
  played any football since that happened. When we were watching football, people liked
• 26:29
  him a lot more. And then when we got into underwear and ran around
• 26:33
  with no pads on and not carrying the football, people decided that he wasn't
• 26:37
  good anymore. And also I think of the two as the season went on,
• 26:41
  he was playing through injury in twenty twenty three, then Travis goes down
• 26:45
  with his injury, and Travis was kind of all over the place in general,
• 26:48
  like not the piggybacker or not piggyback, but rag on him too much
• 26:52
  like people do with Quinnie or from Texas. But I've seen some of the
• 26:56
  stats come out for like the contested catch stuff for Keon Coleman, because it's
• 26:59
  not great. It's only like a thirty three percent success rate I think this
• 27:03
  past year or like thirty. I think it was like ten, not of
• 27:04
  like thirty attempts. Not all of that is completely on him, Like you
• 27:08
  have to take the context in it. And when you watch the tape again,
• 27:12
  he's a ball winner, size, frame and athleticism all put into one.
• 27:18
  He is not a burner, but he is athletic, like you don't
• 27:22
  get to and hey, I hate steeling quotes or keep mentioning this thing.
• 27:25
  But Dame Brugler again said it like you're not playing guard for tom Izzo at
• 27:29
  Michigan State basketball if you're unathletic, and again like we said, you're not
• 27:33
  returning punts, and even too, I don't want to like plug myself,
• 27:37
  Like check my Twitter handle, go into Twitter and type pro underscore, underscore
• 27:41
  and Kean Koman. I have a whole thread out with like twelve thirteen clips
• 27:45
  of what he is and a couple of them are tunnel screens and things where
• 27:48
  the ball is off frame and he's catching it and he steps and shakes a
• 27:52
  guy and shakes another guy and moves and puts his shoulder down. He's not
• 27:56
  unathletic. No is he going to be the sexy let me catch a three
• 28:00
  yard drag over the middle and house it like Xavier Legette. No is he
• 28:03
  gonna run a four to one and just blaze by somebody like Xavier Worthy.
• 28:07
  No. And Drake London's another one too, right, Drake London is a
• 28:11
  very good route runner separates at the catch point because he knows how to use
• 28:15
  his body and he understands leverage. But because he's not a burner, people
• 28:18
  are like, oh, he can't separate. He can't separate. I think
• 28:21
  he's a different because he's a different caliber of route runner. He's been able
• 28:23
  to succeed early on. Coleman's gonna have to work to get to London's level
• 28:27
  of route running. But that doesn't mean he still can't win out early on
• 28:32
  and also provide a dynamic this offense doesn't have. And again, I don't
• 28:36
  want to say this because it's similar to Gabe Davis. He's also a tremendous
• 28:38
  blocker like he legitimately, but it's not like, oh, he's a good
• 28:41
  blocker. He puts dudes in the dirt like he pancakes guys regularly. And
• 28:45
  again, it's the size, it's the frame, it's the athleticism. He
• 28:48
  needs to get polished up and refined as a route runner. And I think
• 28:52
  that's the bigger question, right Greg. Like all these guys that Josh Allen
• 28:56
  loves, Stefan Diggs and kolbe Easley and and Kincaid, it's guys who win
• 29:02
  early. They win in their stems. They know how to separate and they
• 29:06
  almost like wear signs on them and say, hey man, I'm wide open,
• 29:08
  and then Alan fires a dart in there. Kean Coleman is not that
• 29:11
  guy. Alan hasn't had a guy like him, but when he has it
• 29:15
  hasn't worked out too great. Granted that was earlier in his career. So
• 29:19
  I like his fit with the wide receiver room in terms of building that basketball
• 29:23
  lineup. But I think the question does exist of is this the right guy
• 29:27
  to help Alan succeed? But if Alan said go get him, I want
• 29:30
  this guy. You know, maybe we have no idea what we're talking about.
• 29:33
  That's where I'm at. He That's the reason I wasn't into him as
• 29:37
  a prospect. It wasn't because he wasn't good. I thought he was good.
• 29:41
  I thought that he wasn't interesting when I saw some of the Drake London
• 29:45
  and T Higgins, you know comps, like I saw that possibility of this
• 29:49
  guy being able to do that going up over top of people in plays that
• 29:53
  you can't guard. That's interesting. But Josh hasn't used that in his career.
• 30:00
  That hasn't been what he wanted. He likes guys, He likes cole
• 30:03
  Beasley roasting dude by two and a half yards where he can fire it in
• 30:07
  there before you can catch up on defense and the guy already has the ball,
• 30:11
  which I was also surprised too, Like if they took Coleman at thirty
• 30:12
  three, I was like, why not take like Ricky Pearsall at twenty eight
• 30:15
  or like or Lad McConkie. Even Granted you need a different type of body
• 30:19
  type or skill set, but it's interesting that Alan, if this is true,
• 30:23
  advocated for the big body ball winner with athleticism over the separator. So
• 30:30
  that's what I'm gonna cling to, is that, Well, if Josh wants
• 30:33
  that, maybe that's from conversations with Joe Brady. Maybe that's the next evolution
• 30:37
  in what Josh wants to be able to add to this offense, because we
• 30:41
  still have Khalil Shakir and Dalton Kinkaid and Curtis Samuel who can find soft spots
• 30:47
  in zone, who can have the separation to be able to do those things
• 30:49
  as the matchup. Maybe he wanted this as another piece that we didn't have
• 30:53
  in the red zoner, that we didn't have on some of those third downs
• 30:57
  where hey, you gotta be open when you're not, and that Kean Coleman
• 31:02
  is the kind of guy that can be open when you're not open, because
• 31:04
  he could just go over top of you and get the ball. We didn't
• 31:07
  have that. So I'm going to trust that Josh wanted this for a reason,
• 31:11
  that he was leaning into this for a reason, that that comes from
• 31:15
  conversations with him and Joe Brady, and that this is a step that they
• 31:18
  want to introduce in the offense. So you know, I'll be honest,
• 31:23
  it's that you know, I didn't want this pick. He's not the guy
• 31:29
  that I wanted, But I joked at the beginning that I've been wrong about
• 31:33
  a lot of these guys in the past, and that this is if my
• 31:37
  track records anything of here, it's probably a good sign for Bills fans that
• 31:41
  he's going to be fantastic, because the last handful of guys that I really
• 31:44
  didn't like ended up being great, and I'm in a similar boat. Like
• 31:47
  I I'm not unhappy with the pick. I'm fine with it, And I
• 31:52
  don't mean that like negatively or like passive aggressively. I would have preferred like
• 31:55
  if they had first of all, I would have gone with Johnny Newton and
• 31:57
  thirty three. But if I I had to go receiver, I would have
• 32:02
  gone with Ady Mitchell or Lad McConkie. Like, I'm not unhappy that it's
• 32:06
  Kean Coleman. I would have gone in other directions. I still think there
• 32:10
  is some upside and some things that can work here. But again, like,
• 32:14
  I would have gone a different direction, but I'm not. I don't
• 32:17
  hate this pick, but I would have heard other players correct now, And
• 32:22
  that's why I listed off my list like I was trying not to be biased
• 32:24
  or like, that was literally the order I had my guys. That was
• 32:29
  the people that I wanted. So there are people way lower on that list.
• 32:34
  Yes, yeah, please hit the like button, thanks jeez. I
• 32:37
  had Troy Franklin on that list. Troy Franklin still hasn't been picked. All
• 32:40
  were people who wanted Troy Franklin at pick thirty three. So there are guys
• 32:47
  in that mix that like we've seen, you know. Heck, Roman Wilson
• 32:52
  went a lot later than I thought he would. He was a guy I
• 32:54
  really liked, Like I honestly, I wouldn't have freaked out if they took
• 32:59
  him at that spot. Honestly, I like Javon Baker, A ton I
• 33:02
  would have been fine with. I would have been fine with the double dip
• 33:06
  of Javon Baker or what are these other picks? Yeah, that we went
• 33:07
  through. So look how early Jalen Polk went. I love Jalen Polk because
• 33:15
  I thought he was going to be around to pick sixty to seventy five.
• 33:17
  Guy, I don't not love him and like just because he went way earlier
• 33:22
  than I expected. But I did not expect him to go thirty seventh.
• 33:25
  I did not see that at all. So all right, let's let's move
• 33:29
  on to some of the other positions here. We'll talk at the end about
• 33:34
  what we expect to come next. I absolutely expect another receiver to be added
• 33:37
  here. I'm really excited about the next five picks because we have five guys
• 33:43
  in the top one fifty. Yes, we're gonna have to wait a little
• 33:45
  bit, but then we're gonna have a really hot run once we get into
• 33:49
  from one twenty eight to we have seventy five fifth round picks. I believe
• 33:53
  that's the technical term. I believe that is the official tally. So we
• 33:58
  have picked the twenty eighth pick in the fourth round, but then in the
• 34:04
  fifth round we have the sixth, ninth, twenty fifth, and twenty eighth
• 34:07
  pick, So we have four fifth rounders. But I kind of like it
• 34:12
  because, like I still treat the fifth round as like the cutoff, because
• 34:17
  I mean just into the bill's history, Like Luwa Shakira is a fifth rounder,
• 34:22
  Matt Malano is the fifth rounders. Fundings is a fifth rounder. Like,
• 34:25
  there's still a lot of value fifth rounders make rosters. Fifth rounders.
• 34:30
  You're talking ninety percent plus fifth rounders make rosters. You do not cut fifth
• 34:34
  rounders. So that's like, we have five more guys who have really valuable
• 34:37
  depth impact for this roster in some spots that we could use some cheap contract
• 34:44
  controlled deaths. And I say depth to manage expectations. Sometimes you hit on
• 34:50
  fourth and fifth rounders and they could be really the Sharon Johnson was a fourth
• 34:52
  rounder. Tara jostis the fourth round. So like, we have a really
• 34:54
  good track record here of these being impact picked sixth and seventh especially, we
• 34:59
  have a late sixth and those two picks in the two hundreds, those are
• 35:02
  guys who very likely won't make a roster whatever. I don't care. Yeah,
• 35:06
  but I don't want to treat all of day three like it doesn't matter,
• 35:09
  because it does absolutely matters. We're in a spot. We're also in
• 35:13
  a spot where we could package one of the fifths, the sixth, and
• 35:15
  the seventh to move up and get an earlier one. So we get to
• 35:20
  that the like we talked a little offline just quickly. I really, I
• 35:22
  guess I didn't really think, but I thought there was a good chance that
• 35:25
  they'd package one of the fifths or do kind of something to get back up
• 35:29
  into the third or maybe even move up earlier in the fourth tomorrow to get
• 35:32
  maybe one of these other receivers. Like I just that's a lot of fifth
• 35:36
  round picks, all jokes aside. It's I think four, yeah, four
• 35:38
  fifth round picks. So that's a lot. Well, but if you look
• 35:42
  at we've made three picks so far, there's five more tomorrow that I think
• 35:45
  matter. If we walk away with eight guys making the roster, that's not
• 35:49
  crazy. That's that's not a crazy number. And especially if we do one
• 35:52
  move up and it's really seven guys who are like roster worthy guys make it.
• 35:59
  You know that that's that's fine, that's purpose lutely all right. So
• 36:02
  now when we got towards sixty, you know, I'm starting to build the
• 36:07
  board. I'm starting to kind of figure out who's there. I wasn't real
• 36:12
  sure exactly where it was going to go, but it was, matter of
• 36:15
  fact, I take that back, it got really close. I thought it
• 36:19
  was going to be marsha on Niland. We had done a ton of work
• 36:22
  on him. He was the top thirty I wanted him or brass Well,
• 36:24
  and they both went back to back. But second back here was the top
• 36:28
  thirty seven. He was my pick on our show Wednesday. I was like,
• 36:30
  it's gotta be and then they both went back to break right back to
• 36:34
  back. I know we had talked Michael Hall Junior. I like, I
• 36:37
  don't know if I liked him at fifty four. That was kind of early
• 36:40
  for what I expected, but I liked him. I would have taken him
• 36:43
  at sixty though, yeah, oh yeah. Zach Frasier went at fifty one,
• 36:46
  so we had a heck right before that. Chris Jenkins went right before
• 36:50
  him. So we had a run of a lot of really good guys.
• 36:53
  So by the time it got to sixty, like after that run of like
• 36:59
  so Jenkins, Frasier, Mitchell, Nelan Braswell. I was all of a
• 37:05
  sudden, like, all right, there's like eight ten guys that I'd be
• 37:08
  cool with, and Cold Bishop was one of them. So, like I,
• 37:15
  he is a perfect example of how more popular mock draft simulators can skew
• 37:23
  and taint people's perception of where a guy's supposed to go. Because PFF is
• 37:30
  the most popular mock draft simulator, they consistently had him at like one twenty
• 37:36
  five, one thirty, so people would take him in the fourth and fifth
• 37:39
  round all the time, and to people's credit, you would get a ton
• 37:44
  of replies of oh, Cold Bishop's never going to be there, He's never
• 37:46
  going to be that high. You're never going to get him that late,
• 37:50
  and they were right, like he wasn't going to be there that late.
• 37:52
  Brandon Bean thought he needed to trade up to get him. He was trying
• 37:55
  to make phone calls up a couple of spots to get him, and they
• 37:59
  end up getting Cold Bishop at safety, one of the most athletic guys in
• 38:05
  the draft at safety a nine point eight eight RAS score, a wide web
• 38:09
  on the mock draftable and having a guy like him, I think there are
• 38:15
  some questions on you know, there's some questions on the tackling technique, there's
• 38:19
  some questions on aggressiveness. But you have a guy who's smart, super athletic,
• 38:23
  Rangye isn't afraid to come up and make a hit, and having that
• 38:28
  kind of ability with a coaching staff who traditionally has had to get the best
• 38:36
  out of below average athletes. Jordan Poyer was a below average relative to NFL
• 38:43
  talent and NFL prospects. Was a below average guy. Micah Hyde was barely
• 38:45
  average in most of the measurements. Taren Johnson was average. All of the
• 38:51
  dvs that we've taken from you know, Dan Jackson and Levi Wallace and Christian
• 38:54
  Benford and all the things we've done with average athletes to make them into really,
• 39:00
  really good players. I am intrigued to now have a high end athlete
• 39:06
  with great size and great athleticism to see what they can do with him to
• 39:12
  do this so again, it would I have been more excited if we stumbled
• 39:15
  into him at ninety five. Sure, that would have been great, But
• 39:19
  Cole Bishop was a guy that it targeted and I liked, and I was
• 39:21
  I wanted he was on that list. We talked the other day on Wednesday
• 39:24
  night about all of the you know guys available at Safety, and now that
• 39:29
  we got some of these extra picks, would have a chance to get one
• 39:31
  of those guys. I would have been okay if we waited and tried to
• 39:37
  go after one of the other guys that were there. I'm not even against
• 39:39
  a double dip it safety of bringing in another guy that's out there. But
• 39:44
  Cole Bishop was a guy I wanted, So I'm not gonna I'm not going
• 39:46
  to be you know, parse too much about where we got him or you
• 39:51
  know, could we have waited to try to get him later. This team
• 39:54
  has had a really good track record overall with DB's and their selection of dbs,
• 40:00
  so if they targeted this guy, they graded him there, they certainly
• 40:02
  know a lot more than I do. I'm gonna default that their valuation was
• 40:07
  right, and it's a player I liked, so at least now I got
• 40:09
  that going for me. At least I got one of the guys that I
• 40:12
  like. He was Safety six. For me, I had Nuban as one,
• 40:15
  Kitchens has two, Bullard is three, Malik Mustafa is four, Tayke
• 40:20
  Smith at five, and Cole Bishop at six. But once you started to
• 40:22
  hit five for me, so again Tyke at five, Bishop at six,
• 40:27
  Jayden Hicks at seven, DTD at eight, Jalen Simpson at nine, and
• 40:31
  then I Kite Nola Dappo at ten. But once you hit five, like
• 40:35
  it starts to get like Tyke Smith is more of that apex star type,
• 40:38
  the Brian Branch type role that like that he played at Alabama. Col Bishop
• 40:45
  I put in a similar bucket, like and I don't mean this negatively.
• 40:49
  I don't know what to do with Cole Bishop the way you describe Cooper dejen
• 40:53
  it's super similar in this, like, hey, how what are we gonna
• 40:59
  ask him to do? What? What are we going to ask of him?
• 41:01
  Is it going to be in every down regular safety or is this a
• 41:07
  matchup piece? Is this something we use versus tight ends? Is it what
• 41:10
  we thought maybe siran Neil was gonna be, but now with a more more
• 41:17
  intuitive player that coverage translate better in coverage. Yeah, he because he's got
• 41:22
  he's got the mental side of it. I think more than Neil. Neil
• 41:25
  was more Actually I can't even say more athletic, because cold Bishop is like
• 41:29
  really athletic nel Siranil is an elite athlete, but it just never translated.
• 41:32
  No, but Bishop's a good athlete too, although he does, like somebody
• 41:37
  mentioned in the comments when I pulled up his mock draftable, he does have
• 41:39
  t Rex arms. He has. His arm life is twenty nine and three
• 41:44
  quarters, which is the third percentile, and you see it on tape.
• 41:46
  You have longer arms. I have longer arms and cold Bishop. That's right.
• 41:50
  Absolutely, you can see him like one he's always wearing usually always wearing
• 41:53
  long white sleeves. And two you can tell he's just you can see him
• 41:59
  every time like he's like this like every time because he's got those short little
• 42:01
  arms. I prefer him more in the slot and around the box more than
• 42:10
  I do anywhere else. Not to say that he's bad like deep, but
• 42:13
  I just prefer him more around the box. And you can see again if
• 42:15
  you go to my Twitter a bunch of the clips I posted or him making
• 42:19
  plays around the box is like a second level defender or as that apex or
• 42:22
  just down as a down safety. He's one of those guys that has the
• 42:27
  nose for the ball like that. That term gets used a ton. He
• 42:30
  is that kind of guy that's genuinely around the ball all the time. Yes,
• 42:34
  and he actually he meant Vaki, their other safety who also plays like
• 42:37
  running back and wide receiver for Utah. Bishop and Vaki were two just like
• 42:43
  they use because they would play dime and do a bunch of stuff at Utah.
• 42:45
  They're blitzing them off the edge, They're running them off cross dog stuff
• 42:49
  like they're doing awesome stuff at Utah with like how many responsibilities they had.
• 42:53
  He's got some stiffness in him that I think will show up. This is
• 42:58
  what scares me, Like if he gets turned around or turns the wrong way
• 43:01
  in two high looks, but especially in single high looks. He's not one
• 43:05
  of those fluid okay, cool, let me speed turn or let me open
• 43:07
  up and slow turn and run with my guy Like, he's got some stiffness
• 43:10
  where if he guesses wrong or he reads wrong, the recovery is going to
• 43:15
  be a little difficult. Even though he does have a good ten yard split
• 43:17
  at one point five to three and then runs that four four five forty,
• 43:21
  I also feel like he doesn't Ironically, with the conversation we have with Coleman,
• 43:25
  I think Coleman plays faster than a four to six. I think cole
• 43:29
  Bishop plays slower than a four four five, and so like when he ran
• 43:34
  that four four five, and I think even the dudes on NFL Network said
• 43:37
  it. When he ran that, everybody was like, oh, because like
• 43:40
  you weren't expecting him to run that fast. He's not that he plays slow
• 43:44
  mentally or physically. He does, Yeah, he triggers and comes down hill
• 43:47
  well, but he's not like the range plays that you always are really good
• 43:51
  about giving examples of, like single posts, center of the field, making
• 43:54
  a play outside of the numbers, outside of the hash. It's not like
• 43:59
  his tape is littered with those. He's done it, like he's capable of
• 44:02
  doing it, but it's not like littered with those kind of examples. That's
• 44:06
  not that he's not a Micah Hyde put you know, picking off, Yes,
• 44:08
  the deep ball to to U from Matt Jones, that's not his play,
• 44:13
  that's not his that's not going to be his forte No. And but
• 44:15
  but with with that, he is rangy. He is good coming top down.
• 44:21
  He has to be more consistent I think with his tackling, Like for
• 44:24
  I don't I don't know percentage wise, but for every like a couple of
• 44:29
  really good plays he makes coming from depth, he comes from depth and just
• 44:31
  completely withs and misses out. But I think it speaks to the aggressiveness that
• 44:36
  he plays with. And because the way he does thousand on that no I
• 44:40
  was gonna say, yeah, it happens. But then again that's part of
• 44:44
  the reason why for me, like I have Malik Mustafa ahead of him,
• 44:47
  because Malik Mustafa does not miss from depth like he does because everybody does.
• 44:52
  But he bats like nine hundred like when he's coming from death like he and
• 44:57
  then when he comes from depth, he hits like a freight train. But
• 45:00
  yeah, I'm interested to see where he slots in how he gets used.
• 45:06
  Mike Edwards is on that one year deal. Taylor Rapp isn't like his deal.
• 45:09
  I forget when he has an out if it's next year or after year
• 45:13
  two. But Bishop like looks to be the potential safety of the future,
• 45:19
  but he also can be used in that slot like I'm interested to see what
• 45:22
  it means for twenty twenty four. But then again, like in terms of
• 45:27
  beyond, just because he and again I don't mean this negatively, like I
• 45:30
  think he is a bit of a jack of all trades, but not necessarily
• 45:34
  a master of or like any right now jack of all trades, kind of
• 45:37
  master of none, which can be fun because with a secondary like coaching staff
• 45:40
  that has gotten so much blood out of all these secondary stones, you can
• 45:45
  see what you can do with him. I thought sixty was a little rich
• 45:49
  for him and where he went. I'm similar in like the Keon Coleman,
• 45:52
  but with this one, like I don't hate it, I don't love it.
• 45:55
  I think I dislike this pick more than I dislike the Kon home in
• 46:00
  one, but I do recognize like the positives that he has. And again
• 46:04
  I also I hate to say this because it's such a cop out, just
• 46:09
  with what they've done. Like when they took Trey White, nobody was like,
• 46:14
  man, this guy's gonna be an all pro. Nobody thought that.
• 46:15
  When they brought in Hide and Poyer, nobody thought that. When they drafted
• 46:19
  Christian Benford, nobody thought that they would take Levi Wallace and make them a
• 46:22
  low ENDCB two or a high end three, nobody thought that a first rounder
• 46:27
  exactly. Like so anytime they draft anyone in the secondary, even if I'm
• 46:31
  like this guy sucks. I'm like, okay, Like they just have a
• 46:35
  good track record that I'll be like, all right, you know what,
• 46:37
  I'll hold out. It is what it is, So I trust them in
• 46:40
  wanting him and going and getting them and making that pick. But on the
• 46:45
  surface, I'm just kind of man on it right now. Yeah, so
• 46:49
  you know, we'll see where it goes. The funny part is if we
• 46:52
  clipped your description and just like after you said the name and then described it,
• 46:57
  you also describe Taylor Rap exactly as well, like a lot of the
• 47:00
  different things to Mike Edwards is a similar Eric Head The great phrasing for me,
• 47:07
  he said, like Mike Edwards is like a general contract or safety,
• 47:10
  Like he's above average at everything, but he's not like elite or great at
• 47:15
  one thing. And so you can plug him in and be like, oh,
• 47:16
  okay, he's fine, and Cole Bishop is more athletic, and yet
• 47:21
  he does all these things well, but I don't think he does any one
• 47:23
  thing great. And I'm interested to see, yeah, where he slots in,
• 47:30
  given like what his skill set is, what it could be, how
• 47:32
  he can be used And I also thought he would go to like not that
• 47:37
  the Bills defense isn't creative, but I don't know, go to a defense
• 47:39
  that plays more dime or does more like zone blitzes and like like a Baltimore
• 47:44
  Ravens type of defense where you got guys on the field where you're like uhh,
• 47:49
  or even what the Patriots do right where they've got like four safeties on
• 47:51
  the field and you're like, who's gonna drop, who's in the box,
• 47:53
  who's doing what? Because he's got the skill set and athleticism kind of do
• 47:58
  that. But again, if you have a due with that kind of skill
• 48:00
  set, I wonder if Bean and McDermott, I should say, think they
• 48:05
  can kind of mold him and hone him into this one direction and then then
• 48:09
  he can kind of take off, which is what my hope is. So
• 48:13
  it's funny, we'll see what happens. I actually think safety is a spot
• 48:15
  that it's actually possible we could double dip and get Jalen Simpson and so so.
• 48:23
  And the reason that I was, you know, I'm not sure when
• 48:28
  Bishop would go is because a lot of those descriptions can also fit what you
• 48:31
  talk about even later, like a Sioni Baki or Trey Taylor, like to
• 48:36
  look at guys like that, and some with Mustafa, but with Mustafa and
• 48:40
  and I know you're not the highest one on Taylor Emerson, but just having
• 48:45
  a guy that had like if they hit, it is the center fielder guy.
• 48:49
  It is a range of guy that you can see sideline. Ye give
• 48:52
  me one of those, like if we doubled up, give me one of
• 48:55
  the athletic range. You guys, they don't both have to hit, but
• 48:58
  if that guy hits, we would have Hide and then Bishop could be the
• 49:01
  player. And then if they work out, it's great. But neither of
• 49:05
  them have to start day one because we have If we walk in day one
• 49:08
  and it's rapping and Edwards, we're gonna be fine, Like that's gonna be
• 49:12
  all right. We're gonna make that work. But if either of the rookies
• 49:15
  are ready and they jump in and take a job, then all of a
• 49:16
  sudden we have great depth. I like Rap is the third safety guy who's
• 49:21
  the matchup guy, and the one who comes in if we have to take
• 49:23
  a linebacker off the field or whatever. All those are high potential. And
• 49:29
  here like like you know, Chaplin saying you know again, Hide and Poyer
• 49:34
  were the best safety duo in franchise history. I'm not gonna get crazy.
• 49:37
  They far outplayed any of their athleticism, but the fact that your starting point
• 49:45
  is not only the combination of an elite athlete, but an elite athlete that
• 49:50
  this coaching staff in front office that has an eye for dbs, that they
• 49:54
  signed off on him, I'm going to have an open mind and hope that
• 49:59
  the value and where they got them ends up making sense. Yes, yeah,
• 50:01
  and I think that that's fair estimation. Again, like I think this
• 50:05
  is defensive back anything, corner safety, nickel, like whatever. I think
• 50:09
  that is the position with this coaching staff. That they could have taken a
• 50:15
  dude that I had peg for the seventh round, they could have taken him
• 50:17
  in the second, and I would still be like, all right, I'll
• 50:21
  hold out and kind of see what happens, because they just have that track
• 50:22
  record of getting the most out of it. They take defensive backs at corner
• 50:27
  again, corners and safeties, they raise their floor and they raise their ceilings,
• 50:30
  and so when you've got I mean, let me backtrack a little bit,
• 50:34
  because things haven't worked out great with Kyrie Elam. But besides Kyri Elam,
• 50:37
  they raised floors and they raised ceilings. So we'll see what happens here
• 50:40
  again. You could you could do a lot worse, and you could do
• 50:45
  better than Cold Bishop. You also could do a lot worse. And with
• 50:46
  the track record of this coaching staff cool, I'm willing to hold out hope
• 50:50
  and kind of see what happens. So as when in the third round,
• 50:55
  we now I started to look at the trenches. Now, let me say,
• 51:00
  let me rephrase that I have been looking for a double dipper receiver the
• 51:02
  entire time. I will always be looking for another receiver until we take another
• 51:06
  receiver, and then I still might want another receiver. So that's always the
• 51:09
  first one I'm looking at. There are receivers I would still like. I
• 51:13
  don't care if Javon Baker has some redundancy with Kean Coleman. I still want
• 51:16
  Malik Washington. I still want more guys. Give me more guys. We'll
• 51:21
  talk about that at the end. So I did start to I did start
• 51:24
  to look towards the trenches and go through here. Cooper Beebe was still available
• 51:30
  for a while. He made it to seventy three. Braylan Trice made it
• 51:35
  to seventy four. Karen Imajiday made it to seventy five, you know,
• 51:39
  like we Christian hand that Christian a little bit it to eighty one and all.
• 51:45
  And I mean obviously Roman Wilson I was watching this entire time, made
• 51:49
  it all the way to eighty four. That kind of Perry and a Roman
• 51:52
  Wilson with a key on Coleman. Just that skill set marriage I would have
• 51:57
  felt really really good about. So we started to get down is coming up
• 52:00
  on the bills pick and honestly I didn't I didn't want to kind of jinx
• 52:05
  it, but I started to look a bit. Oh, I don't know
• 52:08
  if I like any defensive tackle that's left after after Dwayne Carter. Like there's
• 52:15
  some guys later on and that, you know, there's people who like Christian
• 52:17
  boyd McKay, Wingo, there's some other guys. But that was one more
• 52:22
  and a shout out to our guy Daniel Harms, who's been working with our
• 52:27
  draft stuff lately. He had Dwayne Carter as his number two. He had
• 52:30
  to tackle. He loved him. It had him number two behind Byron Murphy.
• 52:35
  Really really big fan of him, and I saw a lot of positive
• 52:40
  attention coming for Dwane Carter after that pick. So it was you know,
• 52:45
  if we just step back and say, oh, we ended our first three
• 52:50
  picks with a wide receiver, a safety, and the defensive tackle, and
• 52:53
  you didn't even tell me the names, I would have said, oh,
• 52:57
  well, that's perfect, that's what we need. We need a wide receiver,
• 52:59
  of safety, and defensive tackle. Those were probably my top three needs,
• 53:01
  or three of the top four that I feel good about. That that's
• 53:06
  great, And now you know, again you could debate the names or who
• 53:09
  the different pieces are. Out of all of those, the pick I probably
• 53:13
  like the most value wise of any we did today was Dwayne Carter at ninety
• 53:16
  five, the defensive tackle from du Yeah, he said some really fun flashes.
• 53:21
  He was defensive tackle ten for me. So I had Murphy, but
• 53:24
  again a ton of these guys went. So I had Murphy Newton, Michael
• 53:30
  Hall poured one out, Chris Jenkins, Mason Smith went, Mason Smith.
• 53:34
  I kept saying this because the people are like, man, we should get
• 53:37
  Mason Smith. On day three, I was like, I think he's going
• 53:38
  to go. On day two, you said that Wednesday night, you said
• 53:42
  that Wednesday night, I forgot. I forgot. Good call. Thank you
• 53:45
  very much for that. I didn't know. I forgot I had that receipt,
• 53:46
  just the traits, the arm length and what he did. So he
• 53:50
  went now when we were sitting at this pick, So I like Carter.
• 53:53
  And then defensive tackle six for me was Brandon Dorles from Oregon who's still on
• 53:59
  the board right now. And then and after Dorles, I had Devandre sweat
• 54:01
  Rooke not doing the last name, and then Braden Fisk at nine and then
• 54:05
  Dwayne ten. Yeah Scooby doo it all day. So I'm happy with Carter
• 54:09
  like he he first came on my radar at the Senior Bowl. Eric was
• 54:14
  pointing out he was like man like. He was like, look how good
• 54:17
  Carter's flat back is like his foreign pre snap. And I saw him was
• 54:21
  like ooh, and so he was a guy like we noted and started watching
• 54:23
  the tape. I posted the one clip of the spin move that he has
• 54:27
  against North Carolina and then just Drake May does Drake May stuff and gets away
• 54:30
  from him. Three time captain at Duke like all these pieces that just stand
• 54:35
  out, and I think he needs to be more consistent in what he does
• 54:42
  on the field, Like you need to see almost kind of like a d
• 54:45
  Mitchell, but not when he's not flashing. It's not for like cause he's
• 54:50
  a jerker, he doesn't care whatever. But the big thing with ad Mitchell
• 54:52
  was, man, you see these flashes, Imagine what he can be if
• 54:57
  he flashes more consistently. And I think Dwayne Carter is in that boat and
• 55:00
  what's fun about that? And I know some people were knocking it earlier of
• 55:02
  like, oh, they got a rotational three tech in the third round,
• 55:07
  like kind of what good is that? His flashes are absolutely tremendous. And
• 55:10
  so if your back up three tech is a guy who flashes like Dwayne Carter,
• 55:15
  who has the ability because he's smart, because he's strong, because he
• 55:20
  knows how to leverage his body, he's athletic enough, he does have some
• 55:22
  moves. I think he's a really good rotational three tech behind At Oliver.
• 55:29
  And I said it on Yeah on the show Wednesday, Like he has quickness,
• 55:32
  He is a gap penetrator. He works hard, he hustles down the
• 55:37
  field. He's that defensive tackle who when somebody runs like a smoke screen or
• 55:39
  a bubble screen, he's the defensive tackle that tackles somebody fifteen yards downfield,
• 55:44
  you know, if it gets past to contained and gets past the corner and
• 55:46
  stuff like that. I do think he needs to work on and again,
• 55:51
  some of these things are you know, if everybody watches all the shows,
• 55:52
  It's what I said Monday, Like, I do think he needs to be
• 55:55
  better in terms of like how he sheds blocks. You know, he he
• 56:02
  he has good hands, but he could be he could shed more efficiently in
• 56:06
  or quickly. He can get displaced time from time, vertically and horizontally,
• 56:10
  but even when he does get displaced, he doesn't lose his gap. And
• 56:14
  I think that's a testament to the hand leverage or the hand usage leverage and
• 56:16
  quickness that he plays with. I think it's a really fun pick as as
• 56:22
  a Yeah, a rotational three tech, which I know people are gonna be
• 56:25
  like, oh, it's a rotational guy. Modern football in college in the
• 56:30
  NFL, they rotate defensive lines all the time. Go watch Texas and how
• 56:34
  awesome Byron Murphy is and see how he's on the field every other series or
• 56:37
  like takes a series off every two to three. Like that's just how it
• 56:40
  is nowadays. The Bills are not the only team that does this. You
• 56:44
  need to have a quality and or effective top six on your defensive line.
• 56:49
  It could be any combination of defensive tackles and edges, defensive tackles consistently,
• 56:54
  yes, rotate that piece in and Carter does that. And you know,
• 56:59
  from a mentality stand point, a leadership standpoint, he ticks a lot of
• 57:01
  boxes. And you know, we were talking offline. I wanted Jalen McMillan,
• 57:06
  the wide receiver from Washington. I actually I like Polk. I like
• 57:10
  McMillan more than I like Jalen Polk just because of what he could do.
• 57:15
  And I thought that would be a nice pairing, right like your traditional separator
• 57:19
  with the key on Coleman. He went, and as soon as he went,
• 57:22
  in my head I was like, give me Dorless or gimme Dwayne Carter,
• 57:24
  because I'm scared at what defensive tackle is going to look like. Come
• 57:29
  pick one twenty eight. And so I think this hit a need. I
• 57:31
  think it was a good value given his skill set and the scheme fit,
• 57:37
  and just yeah, like the way he plays. He's He's also one of
• 57:39
  those dudes too who he plays one hundred miles an hour, one hundred percent
• 57:44
  of the time. So He's so perfect as a rotational dude because his snaps
• 57:47
  are gonna be balls to the wall like hell on wheels, and it's gonna
• 57:51
  be fun. Well, And I think I don't understand what do people think
• 57:54
  rotational defensive tackle means? Ed Oliver is a rotational defensive tame like Jalen Carter
• 58:01
  is a rotational defensive tackle. Literally every defensive tackle except for Aaron Donald is
• 58:07
  a rotational game. Chris Jones is a rotational defensive tackle. Like, I
• 58:12
  don't understand what what do you people mean? I don't understand how you think
• 58:15
  defensive tackle works in the NFL. So, in the towards the end of
• 58:20
  the year and in the playoffs, we were getting at Oliver for seventy five
• 58:23
  percent of snaps. Yeah, on the season he played sixty five to sixty
• 58:27
  eight percent, but in the playoffs he played seventy five percent, and he
• 58:30
  played, you know, and played had his best season by far last year.
• 58:32
  So let's assume we keep that around seventy Let's say it even goes up
• 58:35
  a little bit more this year, and key matchups in playoff games is seventy
• 58:38
  five plus, but on average he hits around seventy that means the other we
• 58:43
  need thirty percent of snaps of a three tech to play, So there's thirty
• 58:46
  percent right there, boom, thirty percent that he plays in. Also,
• 58:52
  Daikwon Jones plays fifty five to sixty percent rundowns different ones. We're actually gonna
• 58:57
  have some plays where it's Daikwon Jones and Austin Johns in goal line and automatic
• 59:01
  rundowns, but in obvious passing downs we want at Aliber and Duane Carter,
• 59:08
  so heavy Dwane Carter in there next to At Oliver for another twenty percent of
• 59:14
  snaps. Now we're at fifty percent of snaps already, So having a guy
• 59:19
  like that where it's At Oliver for seventy, Duane Carter for fifty, de
• 59:23
  Kwon Jones for sixty, Now all of a sudden you're at like one hundred
• 59:29
  and eighty percent of the two hundred percent of snaps. There you have a
• 59:31
  little bit another you know, fifteen to twenty for Austin Johnson and then maybe
• 59:36
  a defensive end kicking in. That's all of your defensive tackles. That's how
• 59:39
  much those guys play like. We just built an entire lineup. This is
• 59:44
  how football works. I don't understand what do people think rotational defensive tackle means?
• 59:50
  This is football, This is how it works. Literally every defensive tackle
• 59:53
  besides Aaron Donald, who is a literal freak of nature like he is,
• 59:58
  there are no humans like him. Everyone else is a rotational defensive tackle.
• 1:00:04
  Now the NFL, Yeah, yeah, like they they're all rotational defensive tackles.
• 1:00:09
  That's how football works. Yeah, aside from Aaron yeah is a machine.
• 1:00:14
  And who retired? I just think they're like also think the RAMS coaching
• 1:00:19
  staff like who who? Who's come off the field? Aaron, you got
• 1:00:23
  to come off, man, We're not we're not liking your effort right now.
• 1:00:27
  You got to come off the field. It's just not knives. You're
• 1:00:29
  gonna keep me off the field with knives because he'll will handpite you with knives.
• 1:00:32
  Yeah, you just can't do it. He's terrifying, he like,
• 1:00:36
  And he said something. I saw something with Aaron Donald last week where he
• 1:00:38
  was talking about like how he's in alpha, but he wasn't saying it like
• 1:00:42
  those dudes will like I'm an alpha, Like he said, it's so matter
• 1:00:45
  of factly and so calm that it terrified you. Know, I was like,
• 1:00:49
  Okay, yeah, you're the alpha man whatever, Like I don't care,
• 1:00:51
  that's whatever you say. Whatever you say, absolutely, and I we're
• 1:00:57
  I think we're gonna I know, we appreciate him, but he's going to
• 1:00:59
  be that like one of those guys where we look back like five ten years
• 1:01:01
  from now to be like, man, I got to watch Aaron Donald play
• 1:01:04
  like he's truly one of the best football players of all time, like just
• 1:01:07
  dominant. Anyways, at him, and I pulled up Carter's mock draftable just
• 1:01:13
  so people kind of get to show him that he's the same as areon novel.
• 1:01:15
  Yeah, exactly what I'll say, same guy, same overlap, and
• 1:01:19
  you can see it a little bit. I also pulled up this too,
• 1:01:20
  because the North Carolina clip that I show right before we went live, right
• 1:01:24
  he has this awesome spin move when he bears down on Drake May and then
• 1:01:28
  May does some May stuff and escapes. But you can kind of see,
• 1:01:30
  like I mean, defensive tackles usually don't have great change of direction, but
• 1:01:35
  you can see it in a little bit. Here's three cone. He's only
• 1:01:37
  in the fourteenth percentile twenty yard shuttle, twenty eighth percentile as well. And
• 1:01:40
  then you see height and weight, but wingspan is slightly below average on like
• 1:01:45
  slightly below average. But the hand size and that hand side ties into the
• 1:01:49
  violent, powerful hands that he has and how he shocks dudes when he hits
• 1:01:52
  him. And then you see where really his bread is buttered. All the
• 1:01:55
  explosion metrics right, the ten yards split, the forty, but the vertical
• 1:02:00
  jump and the broad jump, that's where you see that quickness. That's where
• 1:02:02
  you see that gap penetration. Why he's a scheme fit. And again having
• 1:02:07
  this like rotational piece, I think that this is a sneaky, nice pick.
• 1:02:12
  We know Joe DeRosa loves it because he's talking about Dwayne Carter. I
• 1:02:15
  don't know he is like five years ago. Yeah, him and Daniel Harms
• 1:02:20
  have been like beating that drum. Yeah, Dwayne Carter, drump. It's
• 1:02:22
  a good pick and it's fun. And again he's got a good head on
• 1:02:24
  his shoulders. He's a good locker room guy, he's a good culture guy.
• 1:02:28
  He's a leader. I think this is a solid guy to have behind
• 1:02:30
  it, Oliver, especially considering again, like there were other guys I preferred,
• 1:02:36
  but that was a huge run on defensive tackle, like I wasn't expected,
• 1:02:39
  Like I thought Carter would be there in the fourth, not because he's
• 1:02:44
  bad, but just because I expected there to be more defensive tackles available right
• 1:02:47
  now. Like I thought Michael Hall would creep up. I didn't think he'd
• 1:02:51
  go as early as he did. Mason Smith went early in the second,
• 1:02:53
  like we talked about, like that run hit and considering the need that they
• 1:02:58
  had at this spot. Yeah, I thought it was good value in a
• 1:03:00
  good fit from a character perspective and a skill set perspective as well. Yeah,
• 1:03:05
  so you know again, I like that. I like that pick as
• 1:03:10
  a value again, not from a value of like you know, where he
• 1:03:15
  ranked overall, but I like watching the tears and where the talent drop offs
• 1:03:20
  are and getting to that spot where, like you said, we were down
• 1:03:23
  to like, hey, if we don't get him or door lists, like
• 1:03:28
  we're really in a in a pinch here, it's a big drop off after
• 1:03:31
  that. That's the kind of spot you want to get. So h With
• 1:03:36
  that said, let's talk real quickly before we wrap here on where is your
• 1:03:40
  focus and attention going in tomorrow? I would say from my rank list,
• 1:03:45
  you know again, I'll be cute and say that I want another receiver,
• 1:03:49
  because I do. But beyond that additional wide receiver, the other two obvious
• 1:03:54
  spots. I know our j in the chat was talking about center guard,
• 1:03:58
  whichever you play, like, I don't really if we had taken Jackson,
• 1:04:00
  Powers Johnson or Frasier, I would have very quickly been like, hey,
• 1:04:03
  Connor, go back to guard. It's fine if he if they say he
• 1:04:08
  can play center, I trust him, God bless him. If Aaron Kromer
• 1:04:11
  says he can play center, he can play center, it's fine. So
• 1:04:14
  I don't care if we draft our center or guard. I would like to
• 1:04:16
  add an interior offensive lineman. We're now at a spot where I'm gonna pull
• 1:04:23
  up the remaining edges. I see three four that I'm interested in. Austin
• 1:04:28
  Booker, Mohammed Kamara, Gabe Hall, Gabe Murphy. Like, there's a
• 1:04:32
  handful of names that like, Okay, Jalen Harrell is still out there.
• 1:04:35
  Who I know? Just shout out to Aaron Aaron Quinn, So continue to
• 1:04:39
  tell me that Jalen Harrol is good. There's guys out there that you know.
• 1:04:44
  I'm are Gabriel Murphy and Grayson Murphy two different humans. Is that a
• 1:04:49
  real They're literally twin brothers. I literally learned that right now. And yeah,
• 1:04:58
  they played the same position from the same school and look the same and
• 1:05:00
  the same skill set. Gabe Gabe Murphy is so the better Murphy is number
• 1:05:05
  eleven. The other one is twelve. They play out sit yep, and
• 1:05:11
  they play opposite a lot to and their their tape is fun. And also
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  they they when they played usc they were given it to Caleb Williams, they
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  were nasty and violent. Yeah, they're literally twin brothers. Gaborling Grease.
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  Okay, so that's my first three. So if I could design those five
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  picks that we talked about, they're like, I'm not going to count the
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  sixth and seventh rounder. Those picks barely ever make rosters. The fourth and
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  fifth rounder is make rosters. Those guys make rosters. So if I could
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  lay out my perfect positions, again not who not player names, but if
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  I could lay out the perfect positions, I'd like another wide receiver, an
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  edge in interior offensive lineman, another safety, and a running back. Those
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  would be the five that I would want to go there. I know you've
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  been an advocate for corner. I think you can make an argument we need
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  a special teams linebacker. You can always have a project tackle to to be
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  able to make now that we had Lyle Collins, maybe not as much,
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  but that's where my head would be at if I had to pick one right
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  off the bat. I'm probably gonna be keeping an eye at wide receiver.
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  You know, the top handful here I'm very intrigued by. I'll just read
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  off this ZESPNS board Troy Franklin, Brendan Rice, Javon Baker, Devon sees
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  Walker, Malik Washington, Johnny Wilson, bubb means like, I give me
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  one more of those. I would love to have Malik Washington. You know
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  that. I anybody that's that size, but Steve Smith signs off on him.
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  I'm gonna give extra credit points. So I want another one of those.
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  And then I don't know enough about interior offensive line play to know who
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  the hell I want. I like some of the safeties, uh, and
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  then we routed off a couple of those edges. That's where my head's at
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  going into tomorrow. I want some of those positions sprinkled in with those first
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  couple of picks. Yeah, I'm in a similar boat. It all depends
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  on who's still there. But give me I want another wide receiver, any
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  interior offensive lineman. It could be guard, it could be a center.
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  Give me an edge, give me a corner. And so if we're where
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  frat receiver, I don't I don't hate Troy Franklin here, Like if they're
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  getting three, I mean day three, you're now, Yes, he can
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  just be a situational field stretcher, which I think is probably closer to what
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  you think he actually is. Right, he is a one trick pony and
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  a false god. But that one trick is fun. Like he's really fast,
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  just like go out there in a handful of times of game, we're
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  gonna throw just hey see how far Josh can throw it. And if you
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  catch, won every four games and we keep the defense honest by doing that.
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  Cool, that's fun. Just the field, that's fine. So I'd
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  be cool with him there, but give me Javon Baker. I also think
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  Devontes Walker is a sneaky one on day three, Like I know a lot
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  of people are out on him, but he's another dude who pull upcraftable you
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  want to talk about, like ceiling like potential of like, hey, on
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  day three, what does it matter if you hit or not, because if
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  you miss, nobody cares. But if you hit and you have a guy
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  that you're hitting on this combination of besides speed, guy, give me one
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  of those. Give me one of those, because like, if it's a
• 1:08:18
  miss, nobody cares. But if you hit, look at what you just
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  hit. He's ninety percent overlap with ad Mitchell. Yeah, it's the broad,
• 1:08:27
  the vertical, the forty, the ten yards split is fine, but
• 1:08:30
  then you see the wingspan, the arm length. He and the only two
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  that are low are weight in hand size. It's not like, you know,
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  yeah whatever, he I think he's a guy who he had a rough
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  Senior Bowl, you know, Eric and I talked about him with tweets when
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  you're at the Senior Bowl and then on video and a lot of the people
• 1:08:45
  did like he just wasn't catching anything. It was bad. And then you
• 1:08:48
  watch the tape and it's he lacks precision and route refinement, but he glides
• 1:08:54
  man when he runs, he like he is a pure field stretcher in every
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  sense of the word, and soaring him as an auxiliary piece to Dalton Kinkaid
• 1:09:02
  and Curtis Samuel and Khalil Shakir and key On Coleman. Now I guess,
• 1:09:05
  like I also the Bills he came in for a top thirty, or the
• 1:09:10
  Bills met with him or did something like a private workout. I think it
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  was top third work something something that was more than just like, yeah,
• 1:09:16
  we met with them, like they did their due jailers. Granted they also
• 1:09:21
  went beyond with Xavier Worthy and Exavier like yeah, and chose not to draft
• 1:09:26
  either of them. So maybe it's all pure smoke and lies. But dude
• 1:09:29
  can Yeah, I'm so sorry, too soon. That's my fault. Dude
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  can stretch the field. And so Troy Franklin's cool. Javon Baker, I
• 1:09:38
  don't care if there's overlap with key On Coleman. I still want him,
• 1:09:40
  so Baker, Yes, I don't care. Baker Baker, Malik Washington,
• 1:09:45
  and Jamari Thrash would be my three preferred receiver options. I also like Anthony
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  Gould, Jacob Collowing. I still wouldn't mind Taj Washington, pure burner but
• 1:09:55
  small from USC. And then yeah, you got like Troy Franklin and Tes
• 1:09:58
  even a size speed get you want to convinced me that Cornelio Johnson can be
• 1:10:01
  the Michigan the outside side. You know, Yeah, you can just give
• 1:10:05
  me someone, give me someone that we add here that adds a little flavored
• 1:10:09
  to the heck, Ryan Flornoy that you know your guy that a late late
• 1:10:13
  project. You know that if say we wait to double dip and add a
• 1:10:16
  guy, he could be like that last fifth rounder. Yeah, we don't.
• 1:10:20
  We don't hit until like we take him at pick one sixty three.
• 1:10:25
  You can sneak him at pick one sixty three. Fill some of those other
• 1:10:29
  spots and get yourself something here. We also haven't seen a huge run at
• 1:10:32
  running back. We almost saw the handful of top guys, so Jalen Wright,
• 1:10:35
  Ray Davis, Braylan Allen, Isaac Garrendo, Bucky erv and Odric Estimate
• 1:10:41
  all still there. We had Will Shipley in for a workout. Come on,
• 1:10:44
  e Vidal still there. A lot of options are running back here,
• 1:10:46
  and I've said a whole the whole time, give me the biggest fastest dude
• 1:10:49
  left in the fifth round at running back, and I'm fine, that's totally
• 1:10:53
  good. Any names, I know you did way more work than I even
• 1:10:57
  remotely. Look at a corner. Who's sticking out for you a corner?
• 1:11:00
  TJ. Tampa is still on the board. Was weird, so he I
• 1:11:03
  didn't love Tampa. And I wonder if it's the measurables that are kind of
• 1:11:09
  doing him in a little bit, because you know, he ran four five
• 1:11:14
  eight in my no, yeah four or five eight, and just I think
• 1:11:16
  that the defense that he comes from. And but there were there was actually
• 1:11:21
  talk at one point where he was like CB three for people like people were
• 1:11:28
  I saw people to mel Kiper had him like early buzz. They're like,
• 1:11:31
  hey, watch for him maybe in the late first and now we're talking about
• 1:11:34
  day three. Yeah, I'm surprised he's still there. Like I knew,
• 1:11:40
  I didn't like him a ton, Like I'm off the top of my head,
• 1:11:44
  like I think he's in the top ten for Dame Brugler, and Brugler
• 1:11:46
  is pretty awesome at what he does. But I think the long speed and
• 1:11:53
  how like not stiff but just kind of too straight up he plays at times,
• 1:11:58
  and just overall like the movement I think is what's scaring people off potentially.
• 1:12:01
  But if I had my choice at corner or am I here, where's
• 1:12:05
  my notes? And who's on the board, so Tampa's there. I really
• 1:12:09
  like Chris Abrams drain from Missouri. I'm gonna keep banging the drum for him.
• 1:12:14
  I especially with what the corner room looks like now, these guys that
• 1:12:17
  have inside outside versatility. So Chris Abrams Drain from Missouri, Jarvis Brownlee from
• 1:12:23
  Louisville, who's an absolute dog like, violent monster type of dude. I
• 1:12:28
  also like Kayln Carson, the cornerback from wake Forest. So any one of
• 1:12:31
  those three would absolutely do it for me. I'm thinking one of them would
• 1:12:34
  be there at one twenty eight, and I'd honestly lean in that direction just
• 1:12:38
  because of no disrespect to cam Lewis, but I want another sure option behind
• 1:12:43
  there. Or maybe it's different now because maybe Cole Bishop is the backup Nicolay,
• 1:12:47
  so that changes a little bit. And if that's the case, like
• 1:12:49
  maybe you lean to more of a strict outside corner. And if that case,
• 1:12:53
  maybe I'd lean more Kayln Carson. But yeah, so if I'm looking
• 1:12:57
  at corner and I definitely am like Chris Abrams drain, Kaitlyn Carson, Jarvis
• 1:13:00
  Brownlee already mentioned the receivers. When we're talking guard another one that I'm hoping
• 1:13:05
  falls. I like Christian Mahogany, the guard from Boston College. I would
• 1:13:10
  be very quote him. Yep, McCormick. I mentioned him in the chat
• 1:13:13
  like I saw a little bit of McCormick and I liked it, and people
• 1:13:16
  who I respect have said they liked him. But I haven't watched enough tape
• 1:13:19
  to give a full evail, but a lot of people who I trust like
• 1:13:23
  him, so I wouldn't mind that. If we're talking Center, I still
• 1:13:26
  like Bolomur from Arkansas. Tanner Bordolini is there, Cedric Van Pryan from Georgia
• 1:13:31
  is still available as met well. Matt Lee does some really good stuff with
• 1:13:34
  his anchor and his base, which is the thing the Bills covet in their
• 1:13:38
  offensive lines at the center from Miami, so he's a possibility as well.
• 1:13:42
  And then if we're looking at edge, what's interesting. Brennan Jackson from Washington
• 1:13:45
  State is there. The Bills did some extra work on him that was reported
• 1:13:49
  recently so and he's a long, athletic type of dude who fits their archetype.
• 1:13:55
  Got some moves to him as well. But if I'm looking at Edge,
• 1:13:57
  give me Brennan Jackson. I like Gabriel Murphy, and then I mentioned
• 1:14:00
  this dude briefly on our show Wednesday, Xavier Thomas, smaller type of Edge
• 1:14:05
  out of Clemson, But dude is just pure juice and electricity more than that
• 1:14:11
  pure pass rusher. Type of mold I brought up is mock draftable, quick
• 1:14:17
  to kind of just reinforce that piece. And you can see, like not
• 1:14:20
  great height, not great weight because he's like two hundred and forty something pounds
• 1:14:25
  wingspan, arm length, but he's the forty. He's the broad. His
• 1:14:29
  ten yard split isn't great, but he's got more juice coming off of it.
• 1:14:31
  Like he's just pure. I want to bend and turn the corner.
• 1:14:33
  I'm smaller than you, but I'm violent enough that I can play through the
• 1:14:38
  shoulder. Just some aspect because Edge, I like what the Bills have done.
• 1:14:44
  I really would have liked neland or brass Well in that second round,
• 1:14:48
  just because right now we're looking at Groot and Vaughn and Epanessa and two Hill
• 1:14:54
  and we still don't know what Vaughn's gonna be and two Hill is kind of
• 1:14:57
  mass, so Edge would be for them to address it. That is one
• 1:15:01
  of the spots that's still pretty ripe in the veteran free agent markets. Oh
• 1:15:05
  yeah, we talked about it, like I take Marcus Golden in a heartbeat,
• 1:15:10
  Like yeah, so if we end up just fully waiting and just literally
• 1:15:14
  don't pick an edge rusher, that will be the tell to me. They're
• 1:15:16
  like, oh, they're just waiting for that trade white money, and they're
• 1:15:19
  gonna go send one of those guys. It will just have this year's uh
• 1:15:23
  uh Leonard Floyd just be this year's guy. Absolutely, and then yeah,
• 1:15:28
  I'm still gonna the heart wants what it wants. I don't care that they
• 1:15:30
  that the bills already took Cold Bishop, give me Jalen Simpson, give me
• 1:15:33
  Malik Mustafa. I don't care. I want to double dip in safety and
• 1:15:38
  wide receiver both which honestly because that also you could double dip and take Mustafa
• 1:15:43
  Jalen Simpson. And two seasons from now your starters are Cold Bishop and Malik
• 1:15:47
  Mustafa or Cold Bishop and Jalen Simpson. Because again, Mike Edwards is on
• 1:15:51
  a one year and Taylor Rap I think has a really good three years.
• 1:15:56
  But yeah, it's honestly, yes, you can get out it's either one
• 1:16:01
  or two, like you can get out with the minimal dead cap for one
• 1:16:04
  of them. I think it's after year one, so I don't know if
• 1:16:09
  that's the long term. And year it's one point three million in dead cap
• 1:16:14
  and two point four million in savings. I was right, So yeah,
• 1:16:15
  so its a weird deal. And then we'll see. Yeah, so if
• 1:16:18
  wrap sucks this year, him and Edwards are both gone and you have a
• 1:16:21
  new starting safety Tannem next year, so a double dip of safety makes an
• 1:16:25
  absolutely a lot of sense. And I will say, uh, this is
• 1:16:29
  I genuinely forgot Casey two Hills on the team plays the run. Really,
• 1:16:33
  we could always bring our extra guy, but Casey two Hill is that extra
• 1:16:38
  guy right now. He actually is probably the guy in that spot. So
• 1:16:42
  that's a great So there's some fires tomorrow. Seven hours of draft coverage twelve
• 1:16:46
  to seven is when it rolls tomorrow, So seven hours, Anthony and I
• 1:16:50
  will be back here with you for one more show to recap what is right
• 1:16:55
  now. Eight selections, so we'll see where they go with it. We'll
• 1:17:01
  say, sorry, seven with the trades. It's extra seven though, but
• 1:17:04
  seven more. Only only seven, Only seven more picks, so we'll see
• 1:17:10
  where it goes. Remember for everybody listening, like make sure you're really honing
• 1:17:13
  in those fourth and fifth round picks because again historically those are a very high
• 1:17:17
  percentage chance of making the roster and having an impact. And again in the
• 1:17:21
  Bill's history you're talking, this is where Terren Johnson, Matt Mulano, Shaquille
• 1:17:26
  Close, Shakir, That's where those guys were all drafted. So there're still
• 1:17:29
  impactful guys to come from this rate. Absolutely, and uh for those watching
• 1:17:32
  tomorrow, for those watching remember Day three, they do a lot of like
• 1:17:36
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• 1:17:41
  and they're not even like they're announced on the bottom, but they don't really
• 1:17:43
  get talked about a lot or they'll gloss over them. So the Bills could
• 1:17:45
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• 1:17:49
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• 1:17:59
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