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- 0:00Speaker 1: Another race to dominate AI continues. American companies and now
- 0:05Speaker 1: the Red Chinese and Mark Zuckerberg had an editorial in
- 0:10Speaker 1: Today's New York Times, and I need Rich de Murrol
- 0:14Speaker 1: rich on Tech, which has heard Sunday nights from eight
- 0:16Speaker 1: to eleven right here on woor. He's our tech expert
- 0:21Speaker 1: to break it down for me, because I got to
- 0:23Speaker 1: tell you, Rich, some of the language in the I
- 0:26Speaker 1: don't quite necessarily get a hang on. What's the zuck
- 0:29Speaker 1: talking about?
- 0:32Speaker 2: Well, I think look, anytime you talk about AI right now,
- 0:35Speaker 2: there is a lot of opinions on how much we
- 0:38Speaker 2: should restrain it, how much we should move forward, whether
- 0:41Speaker 2: we should be open or close sourced with the models
- 0:45Speaker 2: that we allow people to have, and of course, like
- 0:47Speaker 2: you mentioned China being a big aspect of this as well.
- 0:50Speaker 3: But I think what.
- 0:50Speaker 2: He was doing is basically saying he is very optimistic
- 0:54Speaker 2: about AI. He thinks that it's going to create jobs,
- 0:57Speaker 2: create opportunities, not take away all these jobs and take
- 1:01Speaker 2: away opportunities. He also thinks that people should be empowered
- 1:04Speaker 2: to use this, and he does believe that a more
- 1:08Speaker 2: open foundation of AI is a good thing. And you know,
- 1:12Speaker 2: there's two schools of thought there. Number one is you
- 1:15Speaker 2: make all these models and the big companies control them,
- 1:18Speaker 2: and then of course the governments control what those big
- 1:20Speaker 2: companies can do. And the second is that you just
- 1:23Speaker 2: kind of put these out there as an open source
- 1:26Speaker 2: model and let people be the judge, let them figure
- 1:29Speaker 2: out what they can do with them. And that's kind
- 1:31Speaker 2: of what China's been doing. They've been putting out these
- 1:33Speaker 2: models that are very high powered that anyone can use
- 1:36Speaker 2: and download and make things for free out of versus
- 1:39Speaker 2: our two big companies, Anthropic and Open AI, very closed
- 1:42Speaker 2: about their models. They don't necessarily let people just download
- 1:45Speaker 2: what they're doing. You got to pay for the access.
- 1:48Speaker 3: So, as you know, it's been pretty well established in
- 1:50Speaker 3: our conversations. I'm an Apple guy. I'm an Apple guy
- 1:53Speaker 3: all the way. And when I talk to people about
- 1:56Speaker 3: why they don't go with Apple because I think it's
- 1:58Speaker 3: so much better. May not be, but I think that
- 2:02Speaker 3: it's because of the cost. And now this lease program
- 2:06Speaker 3: seems fascinating.
- 2:07Speaker 2: Explain yeah, I mean, basically, if you if you understand
- 2:11Speaker 2: the concept of leasing a car, that is what Apple
- 2:14Speaker 2: is doing with their new program called Apple Upgrade. So
- 2:17Speaker 2: you can now lease your iPhone, you can lease an
- 2:20Speaker 2: Apple Watch, you can lease a Mac computer, a tablet.
- 2:24Speaker 2: Keep in mind, it's not the cheapest or I shouldn't
- 2:27Speaker 2: say cheap, because Apple is never cheap, but the entry
- 2:30Speaker 2: level products are typically not included, but all the rest are.
- 2:34Speaker 2: And so we're talking an iPhone for eighteen bucks a month,
- 2:36Speaker 2: We're talking an Apple Watch for twelve dollars a month.
- 2:39Speaker 2: It is either twelve or twenty four months that you
- 2:41Speaker 2: can have this. But at the end you either have
- 2:44Speaker 2: to give it back, you have to continue with the
- 2:46Speaker 2: new product, or you got to pay the difference. And
- 2:49Speaker 2: the other side of this is that if there you know,
- 2:51Speaker 2: your device is damaged or broken, at the end, just
- 2:54Speaker 2: like a car lease, you're gonna have to pay. And
- 2:57Speaker 2: one other thing about this, so you know, you think
- 2:59Speaker 2: about all these Apple products that they have. I think
- 3:02Speaker 2: that the problem is people are not upgrading enough. And
- 3:05Speaker 2: I think that's what Apple is trying to get around
- 3:07Speaker 2: here by saying, hey, look, let's dangle this shiny new
- 3:10Speaker 2: thing in front of you. It's only twelve dollars a month.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Instead of people sticking with their phones for three to
- 3:15Speaker 2: four years, which is what they're currently.
- 3:16Speaker 1: Doing now rich Ariana Grande, as big as he gets
- 3:21Speaker 1: in the music world, is suing anonymous hackers. First off,
- 3:27Speaker 1: how do you sue anonymous hackers? That's the reason they're anonymous.
- 3:32Speaker 2: Good question. Well, I think what's happening here. I think
- 3:35Speaker 2: there's a lesson for all of us. Now, you know,
- 3:37Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's crying for Ariana Grande. She's been
- 3:40Speaker 2: very successful. But the problem is, over the past couple
- 3:42Speaker 2: of years, her unreleased music videos photos have gotten out
- 3:48Speaker 2: there in a big way on the Internet. And how
- 3:51Speaker 2: are they getting out there? The hackers are targeting people
- 3:55Speaker 2: close to her. So even though she may not even
- 3:57Speaker 2: use Dropbox or she may not have these photos on
- 4:00Speaker 2: her computer that she just took, you know, for a
- 4:03Speaker 2: photo shoot, the people around her do. And so these
- 4:06Speaker 2: hackers are appealing to them and tricking them into giving
- 4:10Speaker 2: up access. And so I think the lesson for us
- 4:12Speaker 2: number one, She's suing to try to figure out who
- 4:14Speaker 2: these people are that are actually getting access to her stuff,
- 4:17Speaker 2: and they'll figure it out eventually. But I think for
- 4:20Speaker 2: the rest of us, you have to understand that you
- 4:22Speaker 2: may be secure, but there are other people, your family members,
- 4:26Speaker 2: your friends, who may give up information about you and
- 4:29Speaker 2: be tricked, especially if you're in a corporate aspect, you're
- 4:32Speaker 2: a big high level executive or anyone, they may give
- 4:35Speaker 2: up information about you that can then lead hackers to
- 4:38Speaker 2: get into your account. So I think the lesson here
- 4:41Speaker 2: is that we need to be careful with all requests
- 4:44Speaker 2: that we get, no matter who they come from.
- 4:46Speaker 3: It's funny everything old is new again, I guess, even
- 4:49Speaker 3: with tech. I remember we all had flip phones. Remember
- 4:51Speaker 3: that everybody had a flip phone, and then Apple came
- 4:56Speaker 3: out with their iPhone and it seemed to change everything.
- 5:00Speaker 3: Everybody went with just a device that almost looked like
- 5:04Speaker 3: a small computer. Tell me about this Samsung new foldable
- 5:09Speaker 3: foldable phone, because it seems like it's selling it's like hotcakes.
- 5:14Speaker 3: Is it like an old flip.
- 5:17Speaker 2: They've got three models this year, so yes, they do
- 5:19Speaker 2: have one. It's called the Flip eight, which yes, looks
- 5:22Speaker 2: like kind of if you remember the old Motorola rasor
- 5:24Speaker 2: that everyone had that was a very successful device. That's
- 5:28Speaker 2: one of the phones, and that's the least expensive at
- 5:30Speaker 2: twelve hundred dollars, which by the way, felt very expensive
- 5:32Speaker 2: for a flip phone back in the day we got
- 5:34Speaker 2: them for a penny or remember that, Yeah, and then
- 5:36Speaker 2: of course your your bill was more expensive every month.
- 5:39Speaker 2: But they have three models. They've got two that are
- 5:42Speaker 2: more like a book style foldable, the Galaxy Z fold
- 5:46Speaker 2: eight Ultra, and then the Galaxy Z fold eight. The
- 5:49Speaker 2: fold eight is the one that's getting a lot of
- 5:52Speaker 2: attention because it looks like a mini passport, and so
- 5:55Speaker 2: you open it up like a book. It's small, it's compact,
- 5:58Speaker 2: it fits in your pocket. It's got this nice think
- 6:01Speaker 2: ish screen on the outside, but then a really big
- 6:03Speaker 2: screen on the inside, which is perfect for watching videos,
- 6:06Speaker 2: looking at photos, maybe doing spreadsheets. That starts at nineteen
- 6:10Speaker 2: hundred dollars. The Ultra starts at twenty one hundred dollars.
- 6:14Speaker 2: These are very expensive, but they're very popular. People are
- 6:17Speaker 2: kind of taking a liking to them. They are in
- 6:19Speaker 2: stores on August seventh. But again, Larry and Curtis, I
- 6:22Speaker 2: think this goes back to what I was just talking
- 6:24Speaker 2: about with Apple. We know that Apple is coming out
- 6:26Speaker 2: with a foldable or supposedly later this year. We also
- 6:29Speaker 2: know it's going to be very expensive. No one wants
- 6:32Speaker 2: to spend twenty twenty five hundred dollars on a phone.
- 6:34Speaker 2: But if they're leasing you that new foldable that's got
- 6:37Speaker 2: the best technology for fifty bucks a month, seems much
- 6:41Speaker 2: more easy to you know, take in and say okay, fine,
- 6:44Speaker 2: I'll do that payment.
- 6:45Speaker 3: So they're getting out ahead of that. That's brilliant. Thanks
- 6:48Speaker 3: so much, Richard Demiro. Rich On Tech has heard Sunday
- 6:50Speaker 3: nights from eight to eleven pm on WLR. You can
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