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The Muster Full Show 16/09/26 · The Muster on Hokonui

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hokonui. I'm
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Speaker 1: Andy Muir. The show is brought to you by Peters Genetics.
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Speaker 1: Thanks to your company on a hump day. On a
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Speaker 1: rather damp hump day here in G-Town as well. Currently
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Speaker 1: we're on about 7 degrees. And, yeah, it's just light
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Speaker 1: rain falling at the moment. I'm understanding that certain parts
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Speaker 1: of the region have experienced quite a bit of rain
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Speaker 1: this morning as well. So, yeah, just a state of
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Speaker 1: play at the moment. Those two days of sunshine, just
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Speaker 1: a bit of a tease. But nonetheless, a couple of
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Speaker 1: things that have occurred overnight, like the GDT auction, back 1.1%,
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Speaker 1: which is in line with the Pulse result that came
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Speaker 1: out last week as well. Just catching up on the
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Speaker 1: headlines here at 1 o'clock, the Indian Free Trade Agreement
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Speaker 1: getting ratified. So, look, that's a good news story. Any
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Speaker 1: trade with India is good news. New Zealand First doesn't agree,
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Speaker 1: but like we say, it's a behemoth in the scheme
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Speaker 1: of things as far as world trade. So we'll go
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Speaker 1: with that one, shall we? The music today, too, is
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Speaker 1: Luke Combs. This song here, I like it, not because
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Speaker 1: of the name of the title, either, reflecting the weather.
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Speaker 2: Oh, Lord, when it rains.
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Speaker 1: It is actually a song with a really cool meaning
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Speaker 1: about it. A guy who's down on his luck and
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden he starts getting all the W's
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Speaker 1: in life. But the weather for this afternoon, rain with
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Speaker 1: breezy south westerlies and 9. Thursday, afternoon showers with breezy
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Speaker 1: north westerlies, 4 and 10. Friday, light rain. with nor'westerlies
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Speaker 1: 8 and 11, Saturday showers and nor'westers forming 4 and 13,
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Speaker 1: and on Sunday, yes, morning showers with breezy south westerlies
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Speaker 1: 5 and 10. Your soil temperatures for a Wednesday, Clinton 8.3,
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Speaker 1: Heriot 7.9, Norwood Southland 9.1, Riverton 10.5, Te Arau 9.1,
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Speaker 1: Titaroa 8.8, Winton 9.6, and Woodlands 9.3. So soil temperatures
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Speaker 1: are still only going one way at the moment, so...
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Speaker 1: That's a good positive for a Wednesday. James Edgar of
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Speaker 1: Myer Flat has a chat today, looking at the situation.
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Speaker 1: Last time we caught up with him, he was in
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Speaker 1: the thrones of lambing, so we'll see how things are
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Speaker 1: going today. Peter Allen, based at the Glen Ewer, deer farmer.
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Speaker 1: We had a catch-up with Pete to see how things
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Speaker 1: are going there, and he'd like to pay his respects
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Speaker 1: to somebody who passed away, who's synonymous with the deer industry,
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Speaker 1: especially down here in the south recently. Anna Ramsey at
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Speaker 1: Dairy NZ has a chat. Murray Coburn of Mainland Minerals.
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Speaker 1: He's in studio for a bit of a chinwag, just
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Speaker 1: talking fruit options. And Scotty, coach of the Southland Stags.
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Speaker 1: They had a good win on Sunday night. Seems like
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Speaker 1: an eternity ago now, but the beat bar plenty. They've
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Speaker 1: got the Naki coming up on Sunday, so we catch
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Speaker 1: up with Scott to see how the mood is and
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Speaker 1: the campy head of that. Mark Calder of PGG writes in,
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Speaker 1: gives a rundown of stock prices from the Barcluthers sale,
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Speaker 1: which was held this morning. Then we'll crank into it
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Speaker 1: with Peter Allen at the Glenure. You're listening to The Muster.
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Speaker 1: It is brought to you by Peter's Genetics, 7 after 1.
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Speaker 1: Peter Allen farms deer at the Glenure in Northern Southland
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Speaker 1: and joins us on a Wednesday. Pete, good afternoon. It's
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Speaker 1: wet here in Gore. I'd imagine it's no different where
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Speaker 1: you're based.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. As I said before we went to air, Andy,
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Speaker 2: it is just like a fire hose here at the
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Speaker 2: moment and we're Had a bit of thunder half an
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Speaker 2: hour ago, and that just increased the level of rain. So, no,
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Speaker 2: just what we needed. As far as saturation goes, right
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Speaker 2: at the minute, we're about 120% saturation, and there's a
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Speaker 2: lot of water flowing off the top from the heavy
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Speaker 2: rain we've had here in the last hour.
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Speaker 1: Is this worse than the previous couple of springs of
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Speaker 1: what you've seen so far?
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Speaker 2: Oh, no question. Yeah, no question. Like, the mess I've
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Speaker 2: made of some of the paddocks is just... horrendous and
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Speaker 2: I've never before in 50 years here it's the first
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Speaker 2: winter that I haven't been able to take the motorbike
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Speaker 2: and pick up all the electric fencing gear to shift
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Speaker 2: brakes and stuff and now I've just had to walk
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Speaker 2: and carry stuff and I'm putting that off to shift
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Speaker 2: to hind brake this afternoon but it'll get there just
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Speaker 2: one of those things Andy in one of those years
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Speaker 2: but you do wonder if there is any end and
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Speaker 2: certainly looking at the next six or seven days there's
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Speaker 2: no respite there either The.
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Speaker 1: Last couple of days, though, they were pretty reasonable, I'd imagine?
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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, nice.
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Speaker 1: It's two days, for goodness sake.
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Speaker 2: I shift a lot of baleage feeders around. I feed
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Speaker 2: out about 900 bales of baleage here to 1,200-odd deer
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Speaker 2: and shifted all the baleage feeders to what I thought
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Speaker 2: was some drier ground yesterday, but that's kind of all
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Speaker 2: been unraveled. I've got 32 baleage feeders around the farm.
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Speaker 1: Sal, as far as your crops, obviously just running deer
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Speaker 1: on your operation there, are you through your winter feed
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Speaker 1: yet as such?
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Speaker 2: No, it's quite a different mindset to dairy cattle, beef cattle, sheep.
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Speaker 2: We take our breeding high in $ 300 of them right
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Speaker 2: through to the end of October. And that's because it's still,
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Speaker 2: you know, we feed them right up until two weeks
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Speaker 2: prior to their forming. So it's totally different to, you know,
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Speaker 2: your cattle where they'll feed them to the end of
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Speaker 2: July and and then the next week they'll start calving. Well,
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Speaker 2: I guess that methodology and that mindset's still the same,
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Speaker 2: but we can take them another two months longer than
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Speaker 2: sheep and cattle farmers.
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Speaker 1: So as far as the deer, how are they looking
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Speaker 1: on the crops, apart from a bit wet?
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Speaker 2: The hinds are looking really good, probably as good as any.
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Speaker 2: They've got a big peat bog tussock block as a
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Speaker 2: runoff this year, and it's been worth its weight in gold,
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Speaker 2: but they've had a good crop, albeit a bit late.
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Speaker 2: slightly drier paddock but the stags have been the wettest
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Speaker 2: paddock on the farm and they've ploughed up their paddock
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Speaker 2: I can't get on it they've just finished so that's
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Speaker 2: why we start feeding them a few nuts as they
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Speaker 2: get into button drop time so that's what's happening too
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Speaker 2: early to talk about you know velvet and velvet prices
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Speaker 2: even though the stags are starting to grow velvet Andy
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Speaker 2: but venison's holding strong steady you know $ 11 plus for
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Speaker 2: most grades of venison at the moment. Not many people
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Speaker 2: kill older stags this time of the year, and it's
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Speaker 2: too late to kill older hinds. I think once you
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Speaker 2: get past the 1st of October, that's it for any
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Speaker 2: pregnant hinds, not that you would be killing them right
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Speaker 2: at the moment. And then your yearling hinds and yearling stags,
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Speaker 2: people are into killing them at the moment.
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Speaker 1: Well, $ 11 plus, I mean, that's in line with what
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Speaker 1: we're seeing with other red meat prices as well. So
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Speaker 1: it's good to see that's holding up.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been steady, I guess. There hasn't been your
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Speaker 2: highs and lows that we've had to put up with
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Speaker 2: for the last few years. And right from, you know,
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Speaker 2: December last year, there was reasonably firm and solid outlook
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Speaker 2: right through to what it is now. And basically it's,
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Speaker 2: you know, geopolitical interference and fuel prices and everything associated
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Speaker 2: with freight and you name it that are bringing back
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Speaker 2: the price a bit. But if we can remain above there,
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Speaker 2: it's still pretty good for everybody.
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Speaker 1: Pete, last time we spoke to you, you were having
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Speaker 1: dramas around malignant catarrhal fever. How's it been since?
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Speaker 2: Lost another couple, but because most of the sheep farmers
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Speaker 2: around us have spread their sheep out onto better feed...
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Speaker 2: that's abated somewhat. The sheep aren't under pressure on weather
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Speaker 2: conditions on breaks, and they don't shed the spores. The
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Speaker 2: aerosol doesn't come off their skin as readily. So if
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Speaker 2: the weather remains okay, and even in really heavy rain
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Speaker 2: like this, it's not spread. It's the wind that spreads it. So, yeah,
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Speaker 2: so far, so good at the moment. But We've got
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Speaker 2: to sort of keep an eye on it and where
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Speaker 2: we put animals right through to the end of October
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Speaker 2: because when hoggets are within a couple of weeks of lambing,
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Speaker 2: they can be quite lethal as well. They're under a
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Speaker 2: lot of pressure in their pregnancy. We've got to this point, Annie,
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Speaker 2: it's just one of those years. I've talked to a
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Speaker 2: few other colleagues that have lost more than they normally do,
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Speaker 2: but not quite the number that we do, but then
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Speaker 2: they're probably not surrounded by... on four sides with the
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Speaker 2: amount of sheep that we are. But look, it's just
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Speaker 2: one of life's things. You've got to put up with it.
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm talking to a couple of cattle farmers
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Speaker 2: that have lost a number of cattle this year for
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Speaker 2: unknown reasons, and that's always frustrating. So it's just farming.
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Speaker 2: You have livestock, you get dead stock.
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Speaker 1: To be fair, you wouldn't really know about this disease
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Speaker 1: or what this condition is if you haven't read about it.
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Speaker 2: No, and an amazing feedback from a month ago. I
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Speaker 2: had about 14 or 15 people email me, text me,
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Speaker 2: and just I guess, weren't aware of the connotations of
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Speaker 2: it and weren't aware of the fact that sheep carried it.
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Speaker 2: But that's totally understandable, too, when they are not farming
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Speaker 2: cattle or deer in amongst them. You know, there is
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Speaker 2: a rule of thought that a lot of deer farmers
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Speaker 2: that have sheep, there is a considerable amount of passive
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Speaker 2: immunity involved. attained if you do it that way but
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Speaker 2: I know one guy that was boasting about never having
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Speaker 2: a problem with MCF because he ran sheep and grey
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Speaker 2: sheep with the deer for 10 years and then one
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Speaker 2: year bang he lost 15 so there's no rhyme or
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Speaker 2: reason it's an invisible thing you know it's all part
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Speaker 2: of an old herpes virus and we just can't foresee
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Speaker 2: it and sometimes we can't change it. Sometimes when you
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Speaker 2: get storms that are preceded by really strong winds, and
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Speaker 2: it's certainly the weather pattern this year, you can get
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Speaker 2: wind from any direction so you can't exactly foolproof your
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Speaker 2: farm when it can be carried in the wind for
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Speaker 2: up to a kilometre.
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Speaker 1: Pete, just finally, you'd like to pass your thoughts on
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Speaker 1: to somebody who's passed on recently, who's well known in
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Speaker 1: the deer community.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, huge.
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Speaker 2: Sympathy to the Newlands family at Mosman, Mosman Engineering. Jed
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Speaker 2: Newlands just passed away on the weekend, and Jed was...
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Speaker 2: An absolute legend, and his deer crushes will live on
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Speaker 2: for many, many years. The most popular deer crush in
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Speaker 2: the country, and right throughout New Zealand. We've got one here,
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Speaker 2: and we've had it for 30, 40 years. Jed designed
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Speaker 2: and built our deer yards, but not only ours, about
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Speaker 2: hundreds of deer yards and cattle yards, and even sheep
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Speaker 2: yards right throughout the country. And his son, Carl, has
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Speaker 2: taken over the business, Mosman Engineering, and a very clever.
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Speaker 2: Engineer and builder in his own right and look Jed's
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Speaker 2: memory and his mark on the deer industry will be
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Speaker 2: there for a long long time and he was a
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Speaker 2: clever man like it goes right back to the very
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Speaker 2: first deer farm in New Zealand where Sid Taylor from
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Speaker 2: West Dome had the first deer farm way back in
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Speaker 2: the day we had to apply for consent to do
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Speaker 2: that and we were the same back in the late
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Speaker 2: 70s but That's how long Jed's been involved in the
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Speaker 2: deer industry, and he was just a very clever man
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Speaker 2: at designing deer yards and flow, and I don't think
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Speaker 2: there'd be a deer farmer around the country, certainly in
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Speaker 2: my generation, that wouldn't have had anything to do with
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Speaker 2: the Newlands deer crush. No, he certainly left a mark,
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Speaker 2: so our deepest sympathy to the Newlands family in Moslem.
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Speaker 1: Hey, good on you, Pete. Stay dry up there at
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Speaker 1: the Glade Newer. We'll catch up again.
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Speaker 2: Thanks, Andy. I'm not sure how it goes.
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Speaker 1: Peter Allen at a very damp Glenure. You're listening to
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Speaker 1: The Muster. From Glenure to Muller Flatnecks, let's catch up
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Speaker 1: with James Edgar.
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Speaker 2: This interview is brought to you by Agri Centre South.
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Speaker 1: Branches in Lawnville, Gore, Cromwell, Milton and Ranfurly.
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Speaker 2: Drop by your local Agri Centre South branch today.
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Speaker 1: Are you sitting? We're away to mow a flat this
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Speaker 1: afternoon on the muster. James Edgar farms over that way. Sheep,
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Speaker 1: beef and deer farmer as well. James, good afternoon. State
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Speaker 1: of play. What's happening?
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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm emotionally ready to talk about today, actually, Andy.
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Speaker 3: We had two absolutely magnificent days yesterday and the day before.
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Speaker 3: And didn't that just put you a smile on your face?
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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm just quite ready to talk
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Speaker 3: about this. I did actually laugh yesterday. I thought this
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Speaker 3: date of play was well summed up by Scott Stuyven
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Speaker 3: when he sent a Snapchat out. And he goes, I've
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Speaker 3: heard about this mythical Jimtree lambing. And then he sort
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Speaker 3: of pans round to what everyone's dealing with currently, which
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Speaker 3: I don't need to explain anymore. And he goes, it
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Speaker 3: won't be this year. She's a bit of a unicorn
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Speaker 3: sort of occasion. And I thought to myself, yeah, no,
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Speaker 3: it's certainly not a Jimtree lambing, this one.
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Speaker 1: How are you looking out there? That 48 hours of respite,
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Speaker 1: did you see a bit of growth?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. We've got a wee bit of grass still.
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Speaker 3: Sort of a... It was actually interesting when I was
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Speaker 3: listening to Graham Butcher yesterday when they did the trial
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Speaker 3: that he was talking about, because it is something you've
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Speaker 3: got to think about. And they're talking 20 years to
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Speaker 3: the hectare, and I'm thinking, geez, either the grass grew
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Speaker 3: a lot more back then or the sheep were certainly
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Speaker 3: lighter or... The weaning weights were certainly down. I don't
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Speaker 3: know where a combination evolved. We've sort of been dropping
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Speaker 3: their stocking rate the last few springs just to try
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Speaker 3: and feed those ewes for those six weeks when they're milking.
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Speaker 3: And we just keep dropping it. And to be fair,
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Speaker 3: our tapenade block, you know, it's like Winton. It's like
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Speaker 3: a dairy farm sort of country. And we've spread out
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Speaker 3: 11 to the hectare. And to be fair, we've got
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Speaker 3: grass at 11 to the hectare. But, you know, I
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Speaker 3: wouldn't like to see the stocking rate. It probably should run. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: we sort of dropped off, when I say dropped the stocking,
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Speaker 3: I guess we switched it around and put some more
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Speaker 3: cattle on. So we've still got a lot of cattle
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Speaker 3: on Fodderbeet at the moment. And then spread the ewes
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Speaker 3: out a bit more far and wide. But yeah, I
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Speaker 3: suppose when these cattle come off, we'd have to box
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Speaker 3: everything up or sell something or do what we can do.
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Speaker 3: But anyway, it's what's out there and I suppose it's
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Speaker 3: just part of being a farmer. But yeah, it does
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Speaker 3: get a bit testy. when you've got a year's hard
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Speaker 3: work and you're in the mud, we'll know that much.
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Speaker 1: You'll be right in the guts of lambing too, I'd imagine.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're sort of just about finished at Tapanui and
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Speaker 3: then just starting up at Moa Flat. So, yeah, it's
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Speaker 3: been wet. That's all this, yeah, what we say. We've
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Speaker 3: had that snow early on. That was a bit frustrating. And, yeah,
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Speaker 3: it looks like there's not much in the forecast coming
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Speaker 3: forward either. It looks like it's a continuation of this
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Speaker 3: sort of weather, so... Yeah, good old Southland.
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Speaker 1: How far through? What's your lamb drop like so far?
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Speaker 3: Just a lambing when we were down at Tapanui, to
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Speaker 3: be fair. Yeah, it wasn't that pretty, that snow event
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Speaker 3: in those couple of days of rain early on. We
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Speaker 3: lost a lot there. Yeah, I don't think there's going
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Speaker 3: to be any records in Southland this year, put it
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Speaker 3: that way.
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Speaker 1: So as far as the cattle, how long have they
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Speaker 1: got left on the winter crops, I suppose? Like Peter
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Speaker 1: Allen before explaining, there's a different ball game they can
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Speaker 1: stay on for quite a long time. As far as
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Speaker 1: the cattle, when are they due to come off?
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Speaker 3: It's about a month, which probably comes back to sort
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Speaker 3: of a topic there. So we were actually seriously laughing
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Speaker 3: because we were like, oh, geez, how many years of
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Speaker 3: this sort of poor weather when do you put a
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Speaker 3: shed in and then start lambing inside? And we were,
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Speaker 3: you know, just sort of laughing about it. You know,
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Speaker 3: but we reckon it would cost about $ 2 million to
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Speaker 3: put enough ewes inside down here to make it worth doing,
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Speaker 3: because obviously, you know, you don't want to just be
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Speaker 3: a hobby farmer. So about $ 2 million to put there.
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Speaker 3: And I was thinking, well, if Chloe and a few
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Speaker 3: of these activists get rid of the winter grazing, the
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Speaker 3: only way you could probably... handle the stocking rates, basically
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Speaker 3: feed padding them or putting all your cattle and sheep
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Speaker 3: inside for the winter. And then I was thinking to myself, well,
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Speaker 3: what does that do to food production? And I know that,
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Speaker 3: you know, sort of got quite expensive to eat meat
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Speaker 3: and protein and stuff at the moment. But I was
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Speaker 3: working out, I reckon the food price would have to
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Speaker 3: go up about a third and that would make it viable.
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Speaker 3: Just because you'd be basically increasing the capital value of
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Speaker 3: your farms by about a third by the time you
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Speaker 3: put all these sheds in and then cut all the
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Speaker 3: feed and then drag it all inside, like those sort
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Speaker 3: of intensive theory systems. Yeah, so I reckon the lamb
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Speaker 3: price would have to go up a third if we
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Speaker 3: wanted to get rid of intensive winter grazing and, yeah,
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Speaker 3: go inside and do all that stuff.
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Speaker 1: OK, so what do you do? We talk about mechanisms
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Speaker 1: when you're on the lambing beat and when the weather's
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Speaker 1: a bit like this. Is there anything you do for
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Speaker 1: the team or yourself just to take your mind off
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Speaker 1: things when you're on the lambing beat, just something just basic?
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Speaker 3: We probably rely, especially this time of year when everyone's
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Speaker 3: out and about by themselves a lot, we do a
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Speaker 3: lot on, we have a messenger group chat for the farms.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, it's probably not so much the bad things,
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Speaker 3: but when you have a wee wind or there's a
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Speaker 3: nice set of twins underneath a tussock or something, we
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Speaker 3: try and get those out onto our group thing because
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Speaker 3: a problem shared is a problem halved. And I know
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Speaker 3: a lot of guys, even that are by themselves, they've
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Speaker 3: sort of got a group that they Snapchat and stuff
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Speaker 3: like that. I think that's important that you keep, you know,
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Speaker 3: putting those things up there in any wee winds. And
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Speaker 3: I know the guys at the moment, we're carving up
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Speaker 3: on the hill, so we're getting all the fresh calves
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Speaker 3: all get put on the messenger. And, you know, it's
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Speaker 3: quite an exciting time of the year as a farmer
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Speaker 3: because it is all your hard work. And, yeah, it's
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Speaker 3: nice to put it on there and know that everyone's
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Speaker 3: having a look. It keeps you motivated too.
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Speaker 1: For all the keyboard warriors and BS that goes on
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Speaker 1: computers and handheld devices these days, there is an avenue
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Speaker 1: where we can see some positives.
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Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely. I went through those snowstorms in whatever they were, 2010. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Sort of the cell phone technology, of course, it was
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Speaker 3: just a completely different world. But, you know, like, it
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Speaker 3: was isolating. You know, you're out on the beach there
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Speaker 3: by yourself and you go home and have tea and
18:57
Speaker 3: you bug it and come back out and do the
18:59
Speaker 3: same thing the next day and, It is pretty cool with,
19:02
Speaker 3: you know, you can put a bit of a video
19:04
Speaker 3: up or easy to ring someone or, you know, you
19:08
Speaker 3: can have a comment back again. And I think that's
19:12
Speaker 3: a nice thing when you're rurally and you're in this
19:15
Speaker 3: crap that we're in at the moment. You know, it's
19:18
Speaker 3: nice to be able to send the thing there. I
19:19
Speaker 3: know I've had a few mates, you know, send you
19:23
Speaker 3: a video of their lane that's just completely covered in
19:25
Speaker 3: water and, you know, absolute disaster. And I don't know,
19:28
Speaker 3: sometimes you... have a bit of a laugh, you know
19:30
Speaker 3: what I mean, like something a bit facetious in there and,
19:33
Speaker 3: you know, it just makes you feel a bit better,
19:35
Speaker 3: doesn't it, when you can share what you're dealing with.
19:38
Speaker 3: And there's always different scales to everyone's problem, isn't there?
19:40
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure the All Blacks are probably at
19:42
Speaker 3: the moment having a bit of a debrief after a
19:44
Speaker 3: 3-1 loss to South Africa and probably getting bullied by
19:47
Speaker 3: them a bit, you know, so it's cheap fun. a
19:50
Speaker 3: bit the same or dairy farming like when you get
19:53
Speaker 3: after Christmas or something you know when you sit down
19:54
Speaker 3: and you've got a bit of a quiet moment you
19:56
Speaker 3: know you can always work on how you're going to
19:59
Speaker 3: get better but yeah while you're in it you've just
20:01
Speaker 3: got to keep battling through.
20:02
Speaker 1: It don't you Good on you James all the best
20:05
Speaker 1: this afternoon.
20:06
Speaker 3: Cheers Andy yeah and hope everyone keeps going and make
20:10
Speaker 3: sure you stop for a cup of tea and stuff,
20:12
Speaker 3: you know, you've just got to keep your body good
20:14
Speaker 3: so you can keep, you know, saving.
20:15
Speaker 4: The animals, really.
20:19
Speaker 1: James Edgar of Myer Flat, and just on that as well,
20:21
Speaker 1: Southland Rural Support Trust, their Brunch on Us events continue.
20:25
Speaker 1: Today it was at Clifton, tomorrow Mosburn at the rugby
20:29
Speaker 1: club at the Community Hall there. Where else have we got?
20:33
Speaker 1: Next week, Willow Bank, Waikato and Dipton. So, Brunch on Us,
20:36
Speaker 1: thanks to the Southland Rural Support Trust. Check out their
20:38
Speaker 1: social pages. for more details. Anna Ramsey's up next from
20:42
Speaker 1: Dairy NZ. Luke Combs is the artist for a Wednesday.
20:57
Speaker 1: That one is a collaboration with Ed Sheeran called Life
21:01
Speaker 1: Goes On. You're listening to The Muster as we catch
21:03
Speaker 1: up with Anna Ramsey of Dairy NZ. Anna, good afternoon.
21:06
Speaker 5: Hi Andy, how are you getting on?
21:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, not too bad, although the season outside is an
21:11
Speaker 1: interesting one to say the least, eh?
21:13
Speaker 5: Oh, it's bloody endless this rain. I mean, the last
21:16
Speaker 5: three days were all right and got a bit dry
21:18
Speaker 5: and done, but yeah, today's just taken us right back
21:20
Speaker 5: to where we were, unfortunately.
21:23
Speaker 1: Pasture management, how are people coping at the moment with
21:25
Speaker 1: the way the feed is?
21:27
Speaker 5: Yeah, from reading out and about and chatting to farmers,
21:29
Speaker 5: there's a huge amount of worry and stress around this. Yes,
21:34
Speaker 5: speaking to some farmers last week, some of them are
21:36
Speaker 5: already on to their second round of grazing, which is
21:40
Speaker 5: about 14 days, if not more, earlier than normal. And
21:45
Speaker 5: obviously the use of supplementary seeds is way up as well.
21:48
Speaker 5: So yes, spring rotation planners and feed budgets are sort
21:51
Speaker 5: of out the window at the moment, which is very
21:54
Speaker 5: worrying for them.
21:55
Speaker 1: So what do you do to deviate away from the
21:58
Speaker 1: norm when you've got a season this wet? Yeah, it's tricky.
22:02
Speaker 5: And yeah, as I say, it depends what the farms
22:04
Speaker 5: have to allow for these conditions. But yeah, ideally we
22:08
Speaker 5: want to be using the grass because the grass is there,
22:11
Speaker 5: but absolutely minimise the time on the paddock to prevent pugging,
22:15
Speaker 5: because obviously that's going to slow down the recovery time.
22:19
Speaker 5: So yeah, ideally getting the cows onto pasture for just
22:23
Speaker 5: the amount of time needed to eat the allocated feed
22:26
Speaker 5: that's there. I mean, they only really need six to
22:29
Speaker 5: eight hours to eat their daily feed allowance. So they
22:32
Speaker 5: can get them on there and then as soon as
22:34
Speaker 5: they've eaten what's available to them, get them off the paddock.
22:37
Speaker 5: And whether that be in a yard or on a
22:39
Speaker 5: sacrifice paddock is the best case, you know, on-off grazing.
22:44
Speaker 5: Absolutely back fencing is essential so we're not retreading on
22:48
Speaker 5: that same pugged area over and over. And yeah, I mean,
22:53
Speaker 5: I probably shouldn't say this on video, but really utilise
22:55
Speaker 5: those sacrifice paddocks because I mean, realistically, they're already thrashed
22:59
Speaker 5: and wrecked, so we may as well keep using them
23:02
Speaker 5: and save the rest of the pastures where possible.
23:05
Speaker 1: As far as calving, I suppose a saving grace, if
23:08
Speaker 1: there is one, is that it's getting well through now,
23:10
Speaker 1: so you can start looking at feed.
23:13
Speaker 5: Exactly, yeah. And I think it's really important to be
23:16
Speaker 5: quite on to it with your supplementary feed allocation. I
23:20
Speaker 5: know farmers are having to use a lot more than
23:23
Speaker 5: probably allocated at the moment.
23:25
Speaker 3: But, yeah, really.
23:26
Speaker 5: being on to it with how much pasture you've actually
23:28
Speaker 5: got there, and then being very diligent into meeting those
23:32
Speaker 5: deficits with the supplementary feeds to the pretty much exact
23:36
Speaker 5: amount and not going over or under. Because obviously we
23:39
Speaker 5: want the cows fully fed right now, a pretty crucial
23:42
Speaker 5: time leading up to mating and into peak milk as well.
23:45
Speaker 5: But yeah, we want to use the supplementary feeds effectively.
23:49
Speaker 5: to be pretty exact which I know most farmers are
23:52
Speaker 5: good at doing but I guess this year probably more
23:54
Speaker 5: so given the unpredictable only new weather front that we've
23:58
Speaker 5: got coming through we don't know what lies this season
24:00
Speaker 5: ahead so yeah just being very cautious with the extra feed.
24:04
Speaker 1: As far as baleage levels, soilage levels etc after winter
24:09
Speaker 1: is there much in reserve do you know?
24:12
Speaker 5: It sounds like there's plenty on hand given that the
24:14
Speaker 5: last season was pretty good you know we had pretty
24:16
Speaker 5: good consistent rainfall over the summer and Plenty of farmers
24:19
Speaker 5: have got some on hand. So, yeah, we just want
24:23
Speaker 5: to be careful with that given that we don't know
24:25
Speaker 5: what our supplies are going to be like for this summer.
24:29
Speaker 1: It's just one of those seasons where you've just got
24:31
Speaker 1: to think outside the square if need be, I suppose, Emma.
24:33
Speaker 1: That's just reality of the situation.
24:36
Speaker 3: It is, yeah, yeah.
24:37
Speaker 5: And I do really encourage farmers to reach out and
24:40
Speaker 5: speak about it because although it's a shit situation to
24:43
Speaker 5: be in for everyone, you know, talking about it does help.
24:47
Speaker 5: And we do have discussion groups coming up. So I
24:50
Speaker 5: would really encourage people to come along and, you know,
24:52
Speaker 5: chat to people, chat to their neighbours and, yeah, bounce
24:56
Speaker 5: ideas off each other.
24:57
Speaker 1: That's the big one. Just keep talking to people. Don't
25:00
Speaker 1: pigeonhole yourself into a corner.
25:02
Speaker 5: Exactly, yeah. A lot of people just wear it on
25:04
Speaker 5: their shoulders. And, you know, I think Kiwis especially, they
25:07
Speaker 5: say it is what it is. But it's good to
25:09
Speaker 5: speak about it. And, yeah, and especially check in on
25:12
Speaker 5: the rest of your team as well because I know Kiwis,
25:14
Speaker 5: The decision makers, there's a lot of stress on you,
25:16
Speaker 5: but the team also takes a bit of a hit
25:18
Speaker 5: as well because getting out there in the rain every
25:20
Speaker 5: day gets a bit relentless.
25:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, well said, Anna. Thanks for your time as always.
25:26
Speaker 2: Yep, thanks.
25:29
Speaker 1: Anna Ramsey of Dairy NZ. Like she said, our supplement
25:32
Speaker 1: levels and the likes, it's just wet out there and
25:35
Speaker 1: looking at a plan as you're trying to look at
25:38
Speaker 1: feed levels heading into springtime. It's a spring, but it's
25:42
Speaker 1: a water spring. Murray Coburn's up next from Mainland Minerals.
25:51
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the muster. Murray Coburn of Mainland Minerals
25:55
Speaker 1: joins us in studio on a hump day. G'day, Murray.
25:58
Speaker 4: G'day, Andy.
25:59
Speaker 6: How are you today, mate?
26:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, good.
26:01
Speaker 3: Good.
26:01
Speaker 1: Yourself? How have things been? Yeah, pretty good, really.
26:03
Speaker 6: We're just getting through this wetter period after some lovely
26:08
Speaker 6: few days. It's pretty easy to forget those good days,
26:11
Speaker 6: isn't it?
26:12
Speaker 2: Yeah.
26:13
Speaker 6: No, we're going well here. We've just been flat out
26:15
Speaker 6: getting ready for spring and been kicking into the Fert
26:18
Speaker 6: side of things, particularly with the trucks, but more up
26:21
Speaker 6: through Central Otago and, of course, a bit of early
26:24
Speaker 6: stuff before it got too wet. So, yeah, no, going well.
26:27
Speaker 1: So your focus at the moment, just planning for spring?
26:30
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we're just getting out, you know, planning with clients,
26:34
Speaker 6: getting the soil tests, making sure we're all up to date,
26:37
Speaker 6: understanding what the issues are, before we start putting FERT
26:41
Speaker 6: regs together, because the last thing we're going to do
26:42
Speaker 6: is blindly put together plans. We're always very detailed at mainland,
26:46
Speaker 6: understanding first, and then putting together good sound recommendations that
26:51
Speaker 6: fit within budgets, and that's the key.
26:53
Speaker 1: It would have been a good year, or it is
26:54
Speaker 1: a good year, to put on FERT too, with the
26:56
Speaker 1: prices the way they've been for stock.
26:58
Speaker 6: Well, absolutely, although it has been a bit niggly with
27:02
Speaker 6: nitrogen and sulphur getting quite expensive. but other prices have
27:06
Speaker 6: held pretty good, but definitely the incomes for the farmers
27:09
Speaker 6: are much better over the last couple of years, so
27:12
Speaker 6: that's been great. And, yeah, particularly sheep and beef, we're
27:15
Speaker 6: always getting, you know, playing catch-up, which has been great.
27:19
Speaker 6: And the dairy guys, just business as usual, doing very well.
27:23
Speaker 1: Supply chains, are you seeing issues there?
27:26
Speaker 6: Yeah, we've had a couple of issues, but we've managed
27:29
Speaker 6: to get through it. We've managed to secure all our furt, so, no,
27:33
Speaker 6: it's just, in the background, it's, it's tricky, but, um,
27:37
Speaker 6: but we've managed to, uh, get through well and secure
27:41
Speaker 6: all our supplies.
27:42
Speaker 1: It's the middle of September, it's damp out there, calving
27:45
Speaker 1: and lambing are in full motion, but like I said yesterday,
27:48
Speaker 1: talking to a couple of people, they took the opportunity
27:50
Speaker 1: to put some furt on, it's just that time of year.
27:53
Speaker 6: Yeah, just, um, there's, there's a bit of pressure on
27:56
Speaker 6: feed at the moment, uh, depending on which areas we're
27:59
Speaker 6: talking about, but, uh, You know, look, I was just
28:02
Speaker 6: looking at the rainfall side of it. We're double the
28:05
Speaker 6: average just in Gore here for August, and we're 50%
28:10
Speaker 6: more in June, July. So that late June we got
28:13
Speaker 6: very wet. So, yeah, it's just that's putting a bit of,
28:16
Speaker 6: you know, and, well, I suppose we had good growth
28:20
Speaker 6: through the winter compared to normal, but with a wee
28:23
Speaker 6: bit warmer conditions. But now we're getting on top of
28:27
Speaker 6: that feed. So it's just looking at your feed with
28:30
Speaker 6: your head and then strategically getting ahead of that feed.
28:34
Speaker 6: And we have things like the Ignite N where you've
28:37
Speaker 6: got some quick and slow release nitrogen and sulphur. We've
28:41
Speaker 6: got our fine particle fertiliser where we're putting the nitrogen
28:43
Speaker 6: as well if necessary. So just looking at those options
28:47
Speaker 6: and considering what's the smartest way to get that tucker
28:49
Speaker 6: ahead of you.
28:50
Speaker 1: Do all cockies do soil testing? Is that a given?
28:54
Speaker 6: I wouldn't say it's a given. All mainland clients do. Yeah,
28:59
Speaker 6: it's amazing. You do come across guys that are just like, no,
29:02
Speaker 6: I just put on my solids. But no, people, I
29:07
Speaker 6: think particularly the younger generation coming through, see the value
29:11
Speaker 6: in getting the soil test, and the very good farmers
29:14
Speaker 6: see the value in soil tests and understanding different areas
29:16
Speaker 6: of their place, whether they're doing cut and carry or
29:19
Speaker 6: different soil types, understanding what the general properties of those
29:24
Speaker 6: soils are, and also looking at the physical and the
29:29
Speaker 6: and the biological side of things as well to try
29:32
Speaker 6: to get things so we're reusing nutrient smarter within the soil.
29:37
Speaker 6: So we're trying to be, yeah, we're trying to look
29:40
Speaker 6: at what I call the three spheres. So you've got
29:42
Speaker 6: your chemical nutrient side of it, what's in the pantry,
29:45
Speaker 6: look at the major nutrients and trace minerals. And then
29:47
Speaker 6: we're looking at the biological, how well are those little
29:51
Speaker 6: guys that are in there, how are they feeding through,
29:54
Speaker 6: activating the existing locked up nutrient and getting that back
29:58
Speaker 6: to the plant and up into the animal. And then
30:00
Speaker 6: physical side of things, sort of compaction, aeration side of things,
30:04
Speaker 6: how do you get the hold on to moisture longer
30:07
Speaker 6: in the drier conditions? How do you let that moisture
30:09
Speaker 6: go when it's wetter? So there's different ways to look
30:12
Speaker 6: at it there.
30:13
Speaker 1: Fine particle as opposed to granular. What do people seem
30:15
Speaker 1: to prefer? I suppose horses for courses.
30:17
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is horses for courses. Look, if you've got
30:23
Speaker 6: the rough rule of thumb that I use is if
30:27
Speaker 6: you've got decent phosphorus levels sort of in the okay
30:31
Speaker 6: to high levels. And if you haven't got very low potassium,
30:35
Speaker 6: like it's cut and carry areas, then they're great for
30:38
Speaker 6: the fine particle side of it to refine and get
30:44
Speaker 6: your soils functioning better and also to get your animals
30:47
Speaker 6: performing better on top. So more meat weight out the
30:49
Speaker 6: gate or more milk in the vat. But if you've
30:52
Speaker 6: got particularly low phosphorus levels, then it's a granular situation.
30:55
Speaker 6: If you're doing cropping, it's a granular situation. But when
30:58
Speaker 6: it comes to young grasses, mixed-age pastures, then the fine
31:01
Speaker 6: particle fertiliser has many more benefits with the biological side
31:06
Speaker 6: of it, getting things cycling better, getting your soil structure,
31:10
Speaker 6: aeration side of it going better long-term, and helps with
31:14
Speaker 6: the dry, hold on longer, and helps let more moisture go,
31:19
Speaker 6: helps with the animal health on top as well. There's many,
31:21
Speaker 6: many benefits of the fine particle, but they work together.
31:23
Speaker 6: So it's the granular and the fine particle together, that's
31:26
Speaker 6: where I found the gold, long-term, not just fine particle
31:29
Speaker 6: only or not just granular only. It's the two that
31:31
Speaker 6: work really well together.
31:32
Speaker 1: As far as cultivation, it won't be this week for sure,
31:36
Speaker 1: but it won't be too far away as well. What
31:38
Speaker 1: do people need to keep in the back of their minds?
31:40
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, cultivation is get your soil testing done so
31:43
Speaker 6: you know what you're dealing with. What are the limiting factors?
31:46
Speaker 6: What do you need to try to lift through that
31:47
Speaker 6: cycle before you go back into young grass? How are
31:50
Speaker 6: you going to get better crops, more yield? So you're
31:53
Speaker 6: looking at the.
31:56
Speaker 6: Phosphorus, potassium, your boron side of things, your nitrogen feeding
32:01
Speaker 6: it on the way through. There can be other things
32:03
Speaker 6: like some manganese and magnesium side of things, depending on
32:06
Speaker 6: what your soils are like. You want to make sure
32:09
Speaker 6: that you're looking at your aeration side of it as
32:11
Speaker 6: well if you've got compaction issues, particularly your dairy farmer
32:14
Speaker 6: side of things or heavy animals on top. So just
32:16
Speaker 6: get your drainage side of it. sort of soil soil
32:24
Speaker 6: science 101 is is make sure that you've got uh
32:27
Speaker 6: paddocks well drained get your mold plowing done if you
32:29
Speaker 6: can if you've got that sort of soil get your
32:31
Speaker 6: aeration done uh put your overflow in if you can
32:35
Speaker 6: get it get get the moisture out of it and
32:37
Speaker 6: uh and and then get the furt right get your
32:39
Speaker 6: good good um good agronomy on top and and you'll
32:42
Speaker 6: be racing and.
32:44
Speaker 1: You've got a couple of recent additions to your team.
32:47
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah so we got um and i think i
32:48
Speaker 6: might have spoken about last time but uh We've got
32:50
Speaker 6: James Merchant, who you'll see poking around. He's based out
32:54
Speaker 6: of Belfour there, and he's a good operator over many
33:00
Speaker 6: years working on a farm out, managing a farm out
33:02
Speaker 6: at Belfour. And so he's got his training wheels on
33:06
Speaker 6: at the moment, but he's got a hell of a
33:07
Speaker 6: lot of good experience to help. I'm helping him out.
33:10
Speaker 6: And then we've got Becky Rickard, who's up in Central Otago,
33:13
Speaker 6: based out of Little Valley Station, back of Alexandra there.
33:16
Speaker 6: And so she's stepping into Gavin Keith's shoes up there
33:20
Speaker 6: and he's helping her out at the moment. So, yeah,
33:23
Speaker 6: you'll see a couple of faces out there. Got some
33:26
Speaker 6: new mainland utes around you'll see as well. They're looking
33:28
Speaker 6: pretty sharp. And then we're also trying to get our
33:32
Speaker 6: new website up and going, so you'll see that soon
33:34
Speaker 6: as well, and our socials are going pretty good too.
33:36
Speaker 1: You're mugs all over Facebook at the moment.
33:38
Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, no, well, that's one of these things you've
33:41
Speaker 6: got to do, Andy.
33:41
Speaker 2: Yeah.
33:43
Speaker 6: It's probably not my cup of tea, but it's the
33:45
Speaker 6: way of the world, isn't it?
33:46
Speaker 1: It comes across really well, though. Give yourself a bit
33:48
Speaker 1: of credit there.
33:48
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, we're doing it. We're doing it, and it
33:50
Speaker 6: seems to be going pretty good. So, no, it's incredible
33:54
Speaker 6: how far your sort of reach can be, not just
33:57
Speaker 6: throughout southern Italia, but, I mean, it just seems to
33:59
Speaker 6: be going further. So it's sort of creating a life
34:01
Speaker 6: of its own. It's quite amazing.
34:03
Speaker 1: All right, Mainland Minerals, Murray, how do people get in touch?
34:07
Speaker 6: Best way is probably just the website with mainlandminerals.com. or
34:11
Speaker 6: on the socials, of course. And if you want to
34:14
Speaker 6: get on the old phone, the 03 208 3004.
34:19
Speaker 1: Good on you, Murray. Thanks for joining us.
34:21
Speaker 6: Good on you, Andy.
34:21
Speaker 2: Thank you.
34:23
Speaker 1: Murray Coburn of Mainland Minerals. Great to catch up with
34:26
Speaker 1: the team, as we do. You're on the muster up next.
34:29
Speaker 1: Stags coach Scott Ede after that big win at the
34:31
Speaker 1: weekend against BOP.
34:38
Speaker 2: So I remember when we were driving, driving in your car,
34:42
Speaker 2: speed so fast.
34:43
Speaker 1: It felt like I was drunk. This is the muster
34:47
Speaker 1: on Hokanui, Scott Ede is the coach of the Southland
34:49
Speaker 1: Stags and it's fair to say a win puts a
34:52
Speaker 1: spring in the step, not just for fans but for
34:54
Speaker 1: the coaching staff as much as the players. 43-12 doing
34:57
Speaker 1: the business over Bay of Plenty on Sunday evening. Scott,
35:01
Speaker 1: good afternoon, what a difference a win makes, eh?
35:04
Speaker 7: Afternoon, Andy, yeah. It definitely makes the day after feel
35:09
Speaker 7: a wee bit better when you wake up, doesn't it?
35:12
Speaker 7: I was stoked for, especially stoked for our players and
35:16
Speaker 7: the fans. It's been a disappointing couple of weeks there,
35:20
Speaker 7: but we managed to put it together, especially in that
35:24
Speaker 7: middle part of the second half where we beat our
35:26
Speaker 7: South Town. We got that right and we got the reward.
35:30
Speaker 7: I was pleased to do it in the 1970s. I
35:33
Speaker 7: guess the group were catching up as well, so that
35:35
Speaker 7: made it even more special having a lot of them.
35:38
Speaker 3: In the team.
35:39
Speaker 1: Did the team draw inspiration from those guys being around?
35:43
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was definitely part of it. We've had a
35:45
Speaker 7: bit of, I guess, this year around embracing the Southland
35:51
Speaker 7: jersey and we've sort of looked into a different sort
35:54
Speaker 7: of past team each week around who we're playing and
35:58
Speaker 7: what not. So this week was around 70s, in particular
36:01
Speaker 7: our 77 team, who actually beat Bay of Plenty for
36:04
Speaker 7: the first time, so we dug into a bit of that,
36:06
Speaker 7: and then we had a few along at our captain's run,
36:08
Speaker 7: which was really cool, and Stephen played here and gave
36:11
Speaker 7: out the jerseys, and then we had Lynn Booth in
36:14
Speaker 7: the shoes afterwards, it was done, it was pretty special,
36:17
Speaker 7: so now we definitely made a point of exploring into
36:22
Speaker 7: our boys' understanding around the history of the South of Jersey,
36:25
Speaker 7: and who and what's gone before and the importance of that.
36:29
Speaker 7: So it was good to get a good performance out
36:33
Speaker 7: aligned with that.
36:34
Speaker 1: The most pleasing aspect of the performance from a fan's
36:37
Speaker 1: perspective I suppose is they didn't fade away over that
36:40
Speaker 1: final 25-30 minutes.
36:44
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was something we had dug into a bit
36:48
Speaker 7: during the season and especially after the week before. There
36:54
Speaker 7: was a fit put on the players around where we
36:57
Speaker 7: need to be mentally and that sort of space. And
37:00
Speaker 7: I thought the guys had come on to a really
37:02
Speaker 7: good job. It was still a tight game there with
37:06
Speaker 7: 25 to go, 17-12. We were in the wind. But
37:10
Speaker 7: we built a lot of pressure through our defense and
37:14
Speaker 7: some of our efforts around our kick chasing. And we
37:17
Speaker 7: got the reward of that really in the last 20 minutes,
37:20
Speaker 7: which was really pleasing.
37:22
Speaker 2: Yeah.
37:23
Speaker 1: A real key thing as well is the younger generation,
37:25
Speaker 1: and they're Jimmy Taylor, Mika Muliaina, and Gregor Rutledge, third-generation stag.
37:30
Speaker 1: I mean, having those young guys in there, they went
37:32
Speaker 1: pretty good.
37:34
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're just getting better and better every week, aren't they?
37:37
Speaker 7: Especially Jimmy and Mika. You can see them, but he's
37:40
Speaker 7: still only 19, and Jimmy's just getting better every time
37:45
Speaker 7: he plays. And then Gregor, I'll start with Gregor. He's
37:48
Speaker 7: had a really challenging sort of, Three months, still trying
37:51
Speaker 7: to fulfil his study commitments around the Southside and physio school.
37:56
Speaker 7: We gave him an opportunity and he trained really well
37:59
Speaker 7: and he was just everywhere. The try was really, his
38:03
Speaker 7: score was really just a great reward for the work
38:06
Speaker 7: that he put in. So yeah, pretty good Southland to,
38:09
Speaker 7: I guess, just at the start of his journey in
38:11
Speaker 7: our jersey. So it's pretty pleasing.
38:15
Speaker 1: Throw Woody Kirkwood into that mix as well. The big
38:18
Speaker 1: man went good.
38:21
Speaker 7: He always goes good, Woody, and I was just so
38:23
Speaker 7: happy for him after his last two years, two ACLs.
38:27
Speaker 7: I was playing for the Stags, and a lot of
38:31
Speaker 7: guys would just throw it in, but not Woody. He
38:34
Speaker 7: trained with our Academy performance group all year, and I
38:38
Speaker 7: knew he was ready. We just needed to get him through.
38:40
Speaker 7: He'd had a couple of delays around coming back, and
38:43
Speaker 7: he got through a game all through the country, and
38:45
Speaker 7: we had him in training for a bit, and he
38:48
Speaker 7: took his opportunity, and He spoke for him and his family.
38:51
Speaker 7: He got out there and came off the field after
38:54
Speaker 7: his team came being out there, but that was all success.
38:58
Speaker 1: Scott, it's interesting to watch North Harbour in their renaissance
39:01
Speaker 1: this year, given they've stuck with a lot of the
39:03
Speaker 1: same squad from last year, picked purely on local players.
39:08
Speaker 1: Do you think there's something Southland could initiate down the line,
39:10
Speaker 1: perhaps go back to that local theory like Harbour?
39:15
Speaker 7: We're trying to build, I guess, a local core of
39:18
Speaker 7: our team. The challenge for us, Andy, and it's been
39:21
Speaker 7: a challenge for years, is around our, I guess, our
39:24
Speaker 7: pool of population and our pool of players locally that
39:28
Speaker 7: are here. We want to... encourage them as we can
39:31
Speaker 7: getting into professional environments, which we had a number of
39:34
Speaker 7: that this year. Like our, you know, my goal as
39:38
Speaker 7: head coach is to have as many staff members playing,
39:40
Speaker 7: and if that's some of them in super teams or
39:43
Speaker 7: some of them in our academy or some of them local,
39:46
Speaker 7: then for me that's the most important thing. Guys that
39:49
Speaker 7: have got a real care for the jersey. So guys
39:51
Speaker 7: we've just talked about, Mika, Woody, Gregor, Jimmy, Jack Taylor, Woody,
39:56
Speaker 7: those guys are all examples of that. And we're always
39:59
Speaker 7: going to have to get some guys in. And a
40:01
Speaker 7: guy like Mitch Dunshea, he's not a Southlander, and he's
40:04
Speaker 7: been huge for our team the past three years, and
40:06
Speaker 7: especially this year. So it's just getting that balance right
40:10
Speaker 7: is definitely something we're wanting to grow and promote. And
40:12
Speaker 7: we've had Eight or nine academy players play this year,
40:16
Speaker 7: many of whom are locals. So it's definitely a thing
40:21
Speaker 7: that we want to and need to build over the
40:23
Speaker 7: next couple of years.
40:24
Speaker 1: If the quarters look like a foregone conclusion, is there
40:27
Speaker 1: a bit of a tendency perhaps to throw a couple
40:29
Speaker 1: more academy players in there and see how they fare
40:32
Speaker 1: and plan for the future?
40:33
Speaker 7: Yes and no, mate. We've still got to... You know,
40:38
Speaker 7: we still want to be in the present and do
40:41
Speaker 7: a job now because, as we've talked about, last week
40:43
Speaker 7: it was 40% of the season advancing. This week it's 30%.
40:47
Speaker 7: So still, you know, like three games is a long
40:49
Speaker 7: time that we've known rugby. So still a here and
40:53
Speaker 7: now focus. When we get to the last game or two,
40:56
Speaker 7: we'll see where we land. But probably the most healthy
40:59
Speaker 7: we've been in terms of our squad roster as well
41:01
Speaker 7: this year, like early in the season, we've We're a
41:04
Speaker 7: bit depleted, especially in the backstop. So, you know, we're
41:06
Speaker 7: actually in a pretty good space right at the moment.
41:09
Speaker 1: Hey, good on you, Scott. We'll let you carry on. Thanks,
41:11
Speaker 1: as always, for your time. And Taranaki this weekend. And Naki,
41:14
Speaker 1: that's always a big game, eh?
41:16
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure.
41:17
Speaker 3: We're looking forward to it.
41:18
Speaker 7: It's going to be a big one.
41:19
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42:31
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, sir. How did we go?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, g'day, Andy. Yeah, we went pretty good down here
42:35
Speaker 4: at Barcluthers today. A slightly bigger yarding than last week, but, yeah,
42:39
Speaker 4: numbers are still going in the way. A few wet-dry
42:43
Speaker 4: ewes starting to come through and some... Some good Ford
42:46
Speaker 4: prime lambs and there was a reasonable yard in a
42:49
Speaker 4: Ford store lamb today that sold well. Getting into the prices,
42:52
Speaker 4: big heavy prime lambs, $ 300 to $ 350. Still your good
42:56
Speaker 4: medium cut there was anywhere from $ 240 to $ 280. And
42:59
Speaker 4: your lighter end primes or Ford stores would just say
43:03
Speaker 4: were $ 180 to $ 220. Getting into the store pens there
43:06
Speaker 4: are much around the same price there at $ 170 to $ 210.
43:11
Speaker 4: The medium store lambs are $ 110 to $ 130 and then
43:15
Speaker 4: your end of season fellas are anywhere from $ 70 to $ 95.
43:19
Speaker 4: Getting into the ewes, big heavy ewes are anywhere from
43:23
Speaker 4: $ 260 to $ 295. Your mediums return to $ 250 and your
43:27
Speaker 4: lighter ewes that have come on the other side of
43:29
Speaker 4: spring are a bit worse. We're at $ 130 to $ 180,
43:31
Speaker 4: still selling well. Our cattle sale down here tomorrow, possibly
43:35
Speaker 4: 500 head of cattle coming in this afternoon, and 10am starts,
43:39
Speaker 4: so hope to see a few of you there.
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Speaker 3: Cheers.