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Your Jeep Could Catch Fire! The Massive 1.1 Million Vehicle Recall · Jeep Talk Show

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  (upbeat music)
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  Howdy boys and girls,
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  it's time for another
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  flagship episode and looky looky.
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  Can you believe it?
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  It's Josh.
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  It's not Josh in the truck.
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  It's not actually, it's not,
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  it's never Josh, just Josh in the truck.
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  It's Josh in the steering wheel.
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  Because you know Josh,
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  I don't know if you got
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  any Jeep talk show stickers,
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  but you need to put a
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  Jeep talk show sticker
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  on the back of that steering wheel.
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  So whenever you're turning
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  and the steering wheel covers your face,
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  we get some advertising.
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  Not a bad idea, not a bad idea.
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  Yeah, I'm back here in studio B,
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  back in the saddle as it were again.
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  And it's been a long time
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  since this studio has
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  gotten any action at all.
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  So it's, I may sound a little different
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  than what you guys are used to
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  if you have listened to the show for a
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  long period of time.
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  Not exactly working on my
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  best equipment right now,
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  but I've got some time in my hands
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  with some stuff that's
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  been going on in the family.
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  And so I'm able to pop in
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  here to the studio once more
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  and get in with Tony
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  for another recording.
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  All right, Josh, I know you quite often,
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  it's not an official grind your gears,
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  but it's always kind
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  of turns out that way.
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  Whenever you get, when
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  you don't like something
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  Jeep is doing, and I
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  hear you're not in favor
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  for Jeeps burning themselves up.
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  (upbeat music)
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  Have you heard this?
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  If we get pissed off and
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  burn them up, that's one thing.
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  But them doing it by themselves, self
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  suicide, we don't like.
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  Yeah, spontaneous combustion
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  is never really a good thing
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  no matter what you're dealing with,
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  whether it's a rag in
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  a bucket in your garage
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  or something on the barbecue
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  or your own beloved Jeep for that matter.
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  Yeah, I don't know if
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  you've seen this Tony,
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  but Jeep has got another recall
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  that has been
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  announced this last week or so.
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  I believe notices have started going out
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  as of the day of this recording.
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  So, and this is kind of a big one too.
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  This is affecting just the Wranglers.
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  We talked recently about a recall
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  that was affecting the Grand Cherokees.
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  This one is affecting the Wranglers
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  and it's kind of a big one.
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  We're talking over a
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  million units of this,
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  somewhere around, I think 1.1, 1.3
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  million Jeep Wranglers
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  between these and the--
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  Is that a million with a B or an M?
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  Million with a B, that's right.
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  That's, I'm glad you remember that.
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  And it's not only affecting the Wranglers
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  but also the Gladiators.
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  And this is covering
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  between, I believe a year's 2021
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  up through 2025 or 2026.
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  So it's kind of a big deal.
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  And Jeep's official statement with this
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  is coming along like this.
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  Do not park your Jeep in the garage.
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  Do not park your Jeep next to the house.
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  Do not park your Jeep under a tree
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  because Jeeps, well, under this category
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  will, could catch fire.
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  Just spontaneously
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  without the key being in it,
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  without the Jeep being on,
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  they could just spontaneously catch fire
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  and you don't want your
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  garage or the rest of your house
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  going down with the Jeep.
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  I mean, losing your Jeep unto itself
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  is nothing anybody wants, but God forbid,
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  it takes your house with it.
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  You don't need that.
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  So losing your second
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  largest investment in your life
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  is one thing, but losing
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  both the second and the first
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  and potentially some
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  family members or pets as well,
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  let's steer away from all that, okay?
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  So what is happening is
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  basically there's an issue
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  with the wiring in the
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  Wranglers and the Gladiators.
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  And what is happening
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  is something involving
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  a power steering hydraulic control,
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  something along those lines is,
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  it has an intermittent connection.
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  It has a connectivity issue.
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  Now, whether that means
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  a lead on a motherboard,
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  whether that mean an actual
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  wire going into a control unit
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  or the contact thereof,
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  I'm not sure exactly the nth
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  degree of how deep this goes.
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  Let me tell you what I found.
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  I was doing a little
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  research on this yesterday
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  after I found out my VIN
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  number is on the recall list.
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  I knew it would be.
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  I kind of had my suspicions, yep.
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  So in the factory, and
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  this is gonna be a story
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  of AI trying to kill us.
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  In the factory, they had
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  the robot putting this thing,
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  plugging this cable in,
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  and it was inserted with too much force.
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  And it wasn't just the vehicles
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  manufactured on Monday
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  or Fridays, this is a
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  machine, it does this thing,
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  it's pissed off all the time.
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  So it was using too much force
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  and could have caused
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  damage to the wiring
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  that may not show itself for a while.
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  And that's why it's catching fire now.
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  At least that's what I read yesterday
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  doing a little research on it.
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  So I get the feeling that
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  they're going to be able
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  to visually inspect
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  these things on inspections
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  and see if there's damage or not,
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  which I haven't looked at mine yet,
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  but I'm gonna have a
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  look and see if I can tell
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  any damage from something that,
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  you would think that if
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  you're causing some damage
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  that it would be visible on the outside.
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  Potentially, and if
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  we're talking about a wire
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  with a terminal end on it being shoved
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  into a connector housing,
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  I could see that connector housing
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  where the end of that
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  wire is going to seat,
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  getting cracked,
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  potentially getting blown out,
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  potentially that pin not seating
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  as that its plug is being
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  mated with its opposite side.
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  For the short to occur,
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  a couple of wires have to touch together
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  or a wire has to touch a ground.
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  Or you get a loose connection
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  and you get that intermittent connection.
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  You can create a spark in there,
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  kind of like a spark plug.
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  Now we're talking about milliamps.
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  We're talking about very low voltage.
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  Could that potentially happen?
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  That's the case.
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  That's a very, very
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  small chance of a fire.
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  Maybe they're being over cautious here,
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  which I'm hoping that's the case.
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  Well, we've already experienced
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  at least the numbers as-
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  48, I think it was.
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  I reckon 50 or 51.
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  Well, they could be going off right now.
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  I don't know.
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  Just keep on adding to the list.
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  Callie keeps adding up.
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  But there has been-
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  There's people out there going,
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  oh, there's people out there going,
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  okay, I know where the fire starts.
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  Start it here, get out of these payments.
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  Yeah, right.
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  So there has been one
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  injury associated with it.
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  Let's keep it to that if we can.
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  And so if you own a 21 to
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  25 Wrangler or Gladiator
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  and you are parking it in the garage
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  or your carport,
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  let's go ahead and just back that down
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  to the driveway a little bit more.
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  Think of that.
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  Now, somebody out there has
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  one of these recalled gladiators
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  or Wranglers.
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  And they also have a Wrangler 4xe.
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  Now that would be a
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  (beep)
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  that you get two fire dangerous.
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  They had a smart wife,
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  the Grand Cherokee too.
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  So you got a driveway
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  just full of recalls.
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  (laughing)
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  I don't know if you
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  remember this or not, Josh.
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  Do you remember the, I
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  think it was an interview.
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  It's been a while back.
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  There was an interview I did
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  or I talked to a guy on
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  the show who's Gladiator.
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  It had like 2,000 miles
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  on it or 3,000 miles on it.
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  And it caught on fire
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  and completely burned down.
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  I was trying to research it.
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  We had pictures of it.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  I was trying to research
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  it and I can't find it.
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  I'm gonna keep looking
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  because I wanna talk to the guy
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  because I remember the big deal was
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  Jeep was going, "Oh, not our fault.
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  "We don't know what you did.
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  "You probably hooked up a
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  headlight wrong or something,
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  "or off-road lighting
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  or something wrong."
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  And I wonder if it's the same issue.
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  Because it would be that
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  vehicle was in this year span
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  of what this recall is affecting.
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  So very well could be.
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  I don't know if he would,
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  well, and with the way that thing burnt,
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  I mean, it burnt to the ground, Tony.
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  And you're trying to do any
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  post-mortem inspection on that.
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  I don't know if anything
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  would be able to be discovered.
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  Yeah, I think they
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  found a finger in there too.
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  So there's no telling.
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  That's where the ex-wife went.
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  (laughing)
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  Aw, there.
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  I've been saying when
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  I'm Christmas present.
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  So yeah, if you think that
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  your Jeep or your Wrangler
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  or your Gladiator may be
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  affected by this recall,
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  you can head over to the
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  NHTSA website, entering your VIN.
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  I believe they even have a license plate
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  lookup version of that.
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  But I mean, just be advised,
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  this likely is going
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  to affect your vehicle
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  if you have either a Wrangler
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  or a Gladiator within those years.
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  It's pretty much across the board
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  as far as the trim models go as well.
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  So if you think, oh, well,
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  just because I have a Rubicon,
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  it's not gonna affect me,
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  or I've only got the base model,
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  that's not gonna affect me.
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  Think again.
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  So let's, out of an abundance of caution,
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  make sure the Jeep is
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  not in the driveway,
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  not in the carport,
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  not next to the garage.
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  Let's go ahead and pull
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  it down in the driveway,
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  down onto the curb,
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  not underneath the tree.
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  Let's go ahead and make sure
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  we don't catch anything on fire.
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  Yeah, no napping in
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  the Gladiator Wrangler.
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  And remember, this
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  can happen with the keys
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  in your pocket in the Jeep, a mile away.
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  So yeah, it doesn't
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  necessarily have to be on
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  or recently used or anything like that.
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  This can be a spontaneous issue
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  that just suddenly
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  happens without warning.
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  Yeah, that's a scary thing.
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  And of course my wife is scared about it.
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  I said, don't worry about it.
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  I'm gonna check and--
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  Well, here's what I'm worried about.
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  When the website thing comes up
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  and I can put in the
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  VIN number, I'll check it.
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  And the article editor may
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  not even be in this issue.
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  And of course I looked
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  it up and it comes up
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  as it is played as part of the recall,
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  but I haven't told her yet.
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  So obviously with most recalls,
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  the dealerships will be
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  taking care of the issue for free.
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  You're gonna have to
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  obviously schedule the appointment
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  and all that.
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  I'm wondering what the exact fix is.
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  Are they just going to
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  repair that one inch of wire
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  that is going into a connector?
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  Are they replacing the
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  entire vehicle harness?
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  Is it just that part
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  of the wiring harness?
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  I'm wondering how far this is gonna go.
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  And if they have to
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  replace the entire wiring harness
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  on the vehicle, can you
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  imagine how long that would take?
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  I mean, you might be out of
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  your vehicle for a week or two.
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  Oh, and with a million vehicles,
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  gee, that could really long a run time.
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  Yeah, this could be something
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  for a while before all million point one,
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  million point three vehicles get fixed.
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  So kind of a big
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  deal, kind of a big issue
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  affecting a lot of Jeepers out there,
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  but it sounds like it's
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  something that Jeep is on top of
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  as we have been with all
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  the recalls in the past.
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  They do have a fix
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  that they're working on
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  and you can get it done for free.
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  It's just a matter of
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  going through all the motions
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  and jumping through the hoops.
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  Yeah, I think it'd be fairly easy.
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  I've never done a recall before,
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  but I did do the Jeep Wave oil program,
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  which I know is different,
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  but as far as taking it to the dealership
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  and then having them service the vehicle,
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  it takes longer than changing your own
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  (beep)
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  oil.
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  But you're sitting
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  there looking at the stuff
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  and checking out the other Jeeps
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  that are in the display area there.
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  So it's nice and I've had no problem.
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  And I suspect that as
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  long as it's something
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  that they can do a visual inspection of,
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  I suspect that it'll go fairly quickly.
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  Yeah, I think so too.
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  I mean, if they get a
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  good fix figured out,
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  which I believe by this point,
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  they would have to have an idea
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  of what they're gonna be doing.
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  Well, I think it's an unknown.
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  I mean, I think that
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  they've had the fires
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  and they probably looked into it
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  and they know what to look for.
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  But, and I'm just
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  guessing this is just my opinion.
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  I suspect they will be
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  able to visually inspect it
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  and determine if something more
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  significant needs to happen.
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  So I'm thinking that
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  you go in, they check it
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  and then you either have a
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  compass to drive home in.
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  Oh God.
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  Or it's like you're fine
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  and then they mark you off.
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  But I think it's important,
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  especially if you ever
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  go to sell your Jeep,
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  I think it's important that
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  you have all of the recalls
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  checked off because the computers
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  are doing a lot more these days
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  and that might actually be a
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  point that somebody uses like,
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  well, I need to get $42,000 off the price
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  of this off your used vehicle here.
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  You've got this one recall.
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  I'm gonna disagree with
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  you a little bit there Tony.
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  That's why you're here.
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  Yeah, right.
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  In the sense that I don't
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  know if they're even going
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  to bother with a visual inspection.
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  Let's let, and let me
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  play doubles advocate here
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  for just a moment.
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  Let's say you take your Gladiator in,
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  they take a look at it, they see,
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  well, this plug looks
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  good, the wire looks good.
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  We're gonna send you on your way.
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  And in two months later or
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  2000 miles later, whatever,
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  suddenly there's a fire.
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  Well, now they are more
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  liable than they were before
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  because they said it
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  was good and it wasn't.
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  And now your vehicle is on
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  fire going down the I-10.
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  So, let's maybe think about,
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  well, I have an abundance of caution.
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  Let's go ahead and just,
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  we're gonna do the repair.
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  If the vehicle's inside
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  of this group of vehicles
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  that is listed as under the recall,
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  we're just gonna fix it.
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  Even if it's not
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  broken, we're gonna fix it
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  because we don't wanna be liable for a
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  fire after the fact.
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  Do you remember the, what was it?
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  The WJs that I think you reported on,
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  where the WJs, there was a lawsuit
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  where the WJ was rear
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  ended and fairly recently,
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  not back when they first
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  came out, it was rear ended,
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  a fire ensued.
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  Yeah, and people didn't die.
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  Yeah, people died.
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  And I remember that
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  we were, I was anyway,
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  complaining that it was a little
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  (beep)
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  you pointed out, as I recall,
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  that it passed all the safety inspections
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  at the time that it was created.
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  And now they're doing a lawsuit
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  because the gas tank is there
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  and they were struck from behind
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  by somebody doing 80 miles an hour.
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  And at some point,
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  bad things are gonna happen
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  that you have no control over.
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  And the fix was, do you remember the fix?
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  A trailer hitch, wasn't it?
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  It was, yeah, it was the whole trailer,
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  hanging the trailer hitch over there,
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  basically putting a
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  nice big chunk of metal
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  between the gas can and the
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  (beep)
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  doing 80 miles an hour
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  that's gonna run into the back of you.
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  I remember at the time
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  we were comparing that
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  to the Ford Pinto from back in the day.
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  And the reputation that that
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  old Pinto had come with too,
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  is that you even look
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  at the bumper wrong,
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  the thing's gonna explode, right?
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  There was, I believe coming up with a
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  reference to a movie
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  that was like, "Naked
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  Gun" or something like that.
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  Oh, they've made fun of it, a movie.
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  "Hot Shots" or something like that.
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  And it was a scene in the movie
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  and it's like this vehicle's
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  barreling out of control down the hill
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  and oh my God, there's this Pinto,
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  oh Jesus, it's gonna
• 14:31
  blow up the whole town.
• 14:33
  And the vehicle comes up
• 14:34
  and it's almost gonna touch
• 14:36
  and it just, bam, kisses the bumper.
• 14:38
  I mean, just, ding, and boom.
• 14:42
  So it was one of those
• 14:43
  jokes where it would start,
• 14:45
  that was then being
• 14:46
  applied to, it was the WJ or ZJ.
• 14:48
  It was one of the earlier
• 14:49
  generation Grand Cherokees
• 14:51
  that that issue was coming up on.
• 14:53
  And yeah, the fix was
• 14:54
  something so simple,
• 14:55
  we're just gonna slap a
• 14:56
  trailer hitch on there.
• 14:57
  There you go.
• 14:58
  So my point is, oh, real quick,
• 15:00
  there was a joke in
• 15:01
  the 70s about the Pinto.
• 15:03
  It was, I forget the
• 15:04
  exact wording of the joke,
• 15:06
  but the punchline was,
• 15:08
  "Blonde with toxic shock syndrome
• 15:11
  from using tampons driving a Pinto."
• 15:14
  And it was like, she was
• 15:15
  like a three-way loser.
• 15:18
  Yeah, so anyway, my point here is,
• 15:22
  I think that Jeep
• 15:24
  having a million vehicles,
• 15:26
  over a million
• 15:27
  vehicles, that they have to
• 15:30
  basically say it's okay or repair,
• 15:33
  they are going to find
• 15:35
  ways of getting through this
• 15:36
  as quickly and as cheaply as possible
• 15:39
  because they're gonna weigh the liability
• 15:43
  with the cost of taking shortcuts.
• 15:47
  And I'm not saying the
• 15:48
  shortcuts are wrong or bad,
• 15:50
  but that's why I say if there's a way to
• 15:52
  visually inspect it,
• 15:55
  that takes the minimal
• 15:56
  amount of time for the tech.
• 15:58
  And if it's reasonable to inspect it,
• 16:00
  then that's a good way to see.
• 16:02
  And I think if you're
• 16:03
  gonna jam two things together,
• 16:04
  you either take it apart and look at it,
• 16:06
  or you can actually
• 16:07
  visually inspect it on the outside.
• 16:08
  I mean, I'll know more when I check mine.
• 16:11
  So I suspect that they're
• 16:12
  looking at it like a balance.
• 16:14
  What can we do here?
• 16:15
  I mean, they could do an
• 16:16
  abundance of safety and this,
• 16:21
  like you said, replace the harness.
• 16:23
  But good God, can you imagine?
• 16:25
  Not just the harness
• 16:26
  cost, the labor cost.
• 16:29
  Yeah, that's what I was saying.
• 16:30
  If they go that far with the repair,
• 16:33
  I could see this being kind of an
• 16:35
  expensive deal for Jeep.
• 16:36
  Now in the history of automotive recalls,
• 16:38
  is this the biggest one?
• 16:39
  No, certainly not.
• 16:40
  The Dakota airbag, I think,
• 16:42
  would certainly take
• 16:43
  the number one spot there,
• 16:44
  the Dakota airbag issue
• 16:45
  with a number of manufacturers.
• 16:47
  Debris, yeah.
• 16:49
  Yeah, and is this Jeep's biggest one?
• 16:52
  I don't think so either.
• 16:53
  It's certainly definitely one
• 16:54
  of the more poignant recalls
• 16:57
  that I can think of over the years.
• 17:00
  But nonetheless, will
• 17:02
  this be the last recall?
• 17:04
  Is this something that
• 17:04
  will be the end of Jeep?
• 17:06
  Now I don't think anything like that,
• 17:08
  but it is serious enough
• 17:08
  that we're talking about it.
• 17:10
  And I think it's a voluntary recall.
• 17:12
  I think I read that as well.
• 17:13
  So I think it's actually interesting
• 17:15
  doing a voluntary recall.
• 17:16
  So I don't think it was the NTSB, MO, USC
• 17:20
  actually requiring it.
• 17:21
  I could be wrong on that,
• 17:22
  but I think I remember reading that.
• 17:23
  How about all recalls?
• 17:24
  Once if it is deemed
• 17:26
  necessary to be a public concern
• 17:29
  and the NHTSA is
• 17:30
  involved or NHTSB, whatever,
• 17:32
  I think at that point,
• 17:34
  it's recorded, it's official.
• 17:36
  You've got more than just
• 17:37
  the automaker involved in it.
• 17:39
  And I think that's- No, no,
• 17:41
  they're certainly aware of it,
• 17:42
  but I think Jeep maybe
• 17:43
  brought it to their attention
• 17:45
  is what I'm saying.
• 17:45
  Oh, not the NHTSA
• 17:47
  brought it to Jeep's attention.
• 17:48
  It was Jeep bringing it to theirs.
• 17:49
  So I think Jeeps trying
• 17:51
  to do the right thing here,
• 17:52
  even though it's a
• 17:53
  high number of vehicles.
• 17:55
  And anytime you can
• 17:56
  keep a Jeep from burning,
• 17:57
  I think that's God's work.
• 18:00
  We don't want our Jeeps on fire.
• 18:01
  Hell, I almost had a
• 18:03
  fire in my XJ one time
• 18:04
  when my high pressure power
• 18:07
  steering line got a leak in it.
• 18:10
  And there was more smoke
• 18:12
  coming out of that hood
• 18:13
  than I've seen come out of any Jeep.
• 18:15
  And that thing was just
• 18:16
  spraying on the manifold.
• 18:18
  And I was off camber
• 18:21
  on a trail for a low,
• 18:22
  I'm climbing a rock and all
• 18:24
  of a sudden I've got clouds.
• 18:25
  What the hell is this now?
• 18:29
  Damn XJ.
• 18:31
  So it's one of those,
• 18:32
  it's immediately shut
• 18:34
  things down, open the hood.
• 18:35
  I mean, it's just a huge cloud of smoke,
• 18:37
  fire extinguishers and
• 18:39
  stuff just on the ready.
• 18:40
  And you can tell from
• 18:41
  the smell, it's not steam
• 18:42
  because that's usually what it is.
• 18:44
  Oh yeah.
• 18:44
  You blew it out.
• 18:45
  No doubt.
• 18:46
  It's a transmission fluid
• 18:47
  or power steering fluid.
• 18:48
  It definitely has a
• 18:49
  different smell than oil
• 18:50
  when it starts to burn.
• 18:52
  So I knew there was something going on
• 18:55
  with some other subsystem
• 18:57
  and it was easy to
• 18:59
  locate and temporarily fix.
• 19:01
  Did you have that silicon tape
• 19:03
  that we always talk about?
• 19:04
  No man, it was
• 19:05
  shortly after that incident,
• 19:07
  I believe is when I
• 19:08
  started talking about that.
• 19:09
  I don't know if we were
• 19:09
  still doing the XJ talk show
• 19:11
  back then or if we'd
• 19:11
  switched over to the Jeep talk show
• 19:13
  by then, but it was one of
• 19:14
  those things where it's like,
• 19:15
  yep, after this, that's gonna
• 19:17
  be part of the recovery kit,
• 19:19
  part of the kit that goes in the Jeep.
• 19:21
  But I did fix it with about a half a roll
• 19:23
  of electrical tape, I remember.
• 19:25
  So got me down off the
• 19:27
  mountain, got me back home.
• 19:28
  I'm sure it was still leaking,
• 19:29
  but at least it wasn't spraying.
• 19:31
  It was bold, you know,
• 19:32
  yeah, you wrap a hose
• 19:33
  and then all the pressure
• 19:34
  builds up underneath repair
• 19:36
  and you've got this balloon on a hose.
• 19:38
  It looks like a snake that ate a rabbit.
• 19:41
  But again, I got home, I
• 19:44
  still had power steering
• 19:45
  for the most part, I was
• 19:46
  able to keep the fluid in there
• 19:47
  enough to where I could
• 19:48
  maintain power steering
• 19:49
  and not catch my Jeep on fire.
• 19:51
  But nonetheless, I mean,
• 19:52
  that's all it takes, man.
• 19:53
  A little fluid leak, a
• 19:54
  little electrical spark,
• 19:56
  some bad connections and you
• 19:58
  can end your day real quickly.
• 19:59
  Well, I mean, the Jeeps
• 20:01
  generate a lot of heat.
• 20:02
  There's a lot of
• 20:03
  combustibles, including the fuel.
• 20:05
  So it's a miracle that
• 20:07
  they work the way they do.
• 20:09
  And that's a testament
• 20:10
  to the automotive industry
• 20:12
  or even the individuals
• 20:13
  that build their own vehicles
• 20:15
  that you can do it, you can do it safely.
• 20:17
  And I'm glad Jeep is
• 20:18
  actually going through this
• 20:21
  because you know, it
• 20:22
  can't help their stock prices
• 20:25
  and so on and so forth.
• 20:26
  So it's good, safety's better.
• 20:28
  He's exactly doing that
• 20:30
  great on the stock market
• 20:31
  as it is, so yeah.
• 20:34
  I mean, I was thinking
• 20:35
  who they're gonna fire,
• 20:36
  who they're gonna fire with this mistake.
• 20:38
  Because even if the person
• 20:39
  wasn't directly involved,
• 20:40
  they gotta fire somebody
• 20:41
  because that makes it seem
• 20:42
  like it's gonna be better.
• 20:44
  And then I remember
• 20:45
  they got rid of Tavares,
• 20:46
  the guy that was in charge of Stellantis.
• 20:49
  So maybe he was the sacrificial lamb
• 20:51
  that they'll use for this one.
• 20:52
  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 20:52
  That was under Tavares back in 21.
• 20:56
  Yeah.
• 20:57
  Well, I mean, Stellantis stock
• 20:58
  has not been doing good over the last,
• 21:01
  I mean, even you go back like five years
• 21:03
  and it's just a
• 21:04
  pretty much standard drop.
• 21:07
  I mean, they had a little bit
• 21:08
  of a bump back in like 2024,
• 21:11
  the first quarter of 2024,
• 21:12
  but it's been a pretty much steady slides
• 21:15
  downward since then.
• 21:16
  Well, like I said, Tavares was doing,
• 21:18
  trying to make luxury Jeeps
• 21:20
  and trying to price those
• 21:21
  things out of the marketplace
• 21:22
  for people like you and me.
• 21:25
  I'm not gonna say the
• 21:26
  Wagoneer or the Grand Wagoneer
• 21:28
  was the end of Jeeps
• 21:31
  stock market prowess,
• 21:33
  but was it the right direction to go?
• 21:36
  Yeah.
• 21:37
  Wonderful vehicles.
• 21:38
  They are really nice.
• 21:39
  They are gorgeous.
• 21:41
  They are beautiful.
• 21:42
  They are comfortable.
• 21:43
  They are an amazing rig.
• 21:45
  Yeah, but the price point, man.
• 21:47
  Oh, I know.
• 21:48
  It's just, it's a little
• 21:49
  bit out of reach for most.
• 21:50
  I have seen a few of them in my area.
• 21:53
  I have not seen a Grand Wagoneer.
• 21:55
  I have seen at least two, if not three
• 21:57
  different Wagoneers.
• 21:59
  I'm not sure of the exact trim level.
• 22:00
  I know there's like
• 22:01
  two or three sub trims
• 22:02
  of the Wagoneer, but nonetheless, I mean,
• 22:05
  people are buying them.
• 22:06
  They are out there, but--
• 22:07
  They're using those
• 22:08
  hurricane engines in them too,
• 22:10
  which is amazing to me.
• 22:12
  I have not heard anything
• 22:14
  negative about the hurricane.
• 22:15
  No, I really haven't either.
• 22:16
  And to be honest, I wasn't expecting to.
• 22:19
  If you're gonna
• 22:20
  resurrect an inline six engine,
• 22:23
  now even though
• 22:24
  completely different manufacturers,
• 22:26
  completely different
• 22:27
  design and everything,
• 22:29
  but think about the reputation
• 22:31
  of the inline six motor and Jeep.
• 22:34
  It's got Daddy's DNA in it.
• 22:36
  That's what makes it bad.
• 22:36
  It goes way back.
• 22:38
  It's got decades of
• 22:40
  exceptional heritage and review.
• 22:46
  Just so much aftermarket support.
• 22:49
  I'm not surprised that Jeep said,
• 22:51
  hey, let's take a look
• 22:51
  at the inline six again.
• 22:53
  And then somebody said, yeah,
• 22:54
  let's slap two turbos on it too.
• 22:56
  And it's like, okay, sure.
• 22:59
  And the guy in the back,
• 23:00
  and the guy in the
• 23:00
  black goes, "And a blower."
• 23:02
  So it's, right.
• 23:04
  And it's, okay, how much
• 23:05
  horsepower can we create?
• 23:08
  Well, those inline sixes, at
• 23:10
  least the 4.0 is very tough.
• 23:11
  So there was a lot of
• 23:13
  stuff you could do to it
• 23:14
  because it was so tough.
• 23:15
  I'm kind of curious,
• 23:16
  because we're not quite there yet
• 23:17
  to see what kind of
• 23:19
  mileage these things can produce
• 23:20
  without issue.
• 23:21
  But I would suspect that we're gonna see
• 23:23
  out of the hurricane
• 23:24
  another 200, 300,000 mile motor easily.
• 23:27
  Now the subsystems, I
• 23:29
  could see turbos going out.
• 23:30
  I could see peripherals
• 23:32
  kind of in the bed as it were
• 23:34
  and having an issue
• 23:35
  with one thing or another
• 23:37
  as you get up to a
• 23:38
  quarter million miles and above.
• 23:40
  But that being said,
• 23:41
  look at the inline six,
• 23:43
  the four liter inline six
• 23:45
  and how long that has been running.
• 23:48
  We've got Jeeps out
• 23:50
  there with the inline six
• 23:51
  that are pushing a half
• 23:51
  a million miles or more.
• 23:52
  So, and still running strong.
• 23:54
  So it's one of those things,
• 23:56
  I think it's such a good
• 23:57
  design, the inline six engine,
• 23:59
  even though this is not
• 24:01
  that motor from yesteryear,
• 24:03
  I believe it's going
• 24:04
  to go down in history
• 24:05
  as Jeeps second best motor.
• 24:08
  Let me switch gears on you.
• 24:10
  All right.
• 24:11
  Oh, and by the way,
• 24:12
  and I don't mind people knowing this,
• 24:15
  with the new technology we have here
• 24:17
  at the Jeep talk show,
• 24:18
  I can make the show a little more
• 24:20
  pleasant for children
• 24:22
  that may be listening
• 24:23
  while you're driving
• 24:24
  from here to there.
• 24:25
  Because you know, Josh,
• 24:27
  it's clearly marked that
• 24:29
  this is an explicit show.
• 24:31
  Historically has been.
• 24:32
  We've had several people complain
• 24:34
  about they can't
• 24:34
  listen to the show anymore
• 24:36
  with the kids in the
• 24:36
  Jeep because of bad words.
• 24:39
  And it's like, it's explicit.
• 24:42
  We tell you.
• 24:43
  I tried it, you know, and it's okay.
• 24:44
  I let an expletive fly just a minute ago.
• 24:47
  I usually try and,
• 24:49
  you know, letter it out.
• 24:50
  Well, that's a pile of stuff.
• 24:53
  This is what, stop right there.
• 24:55
  I want to tell you with the new
• 24:57
  technology that we have,
• 24:59
  you can be as colorful as you like,
• 25:02
  because it will all be bleeped out.
• 25:05
  And I personally think that it's so funny
• 25:11
  when you hear somebody
• 25:12
  talking and there's bleeps,
• 25:13
  especially if there's 27 beeps in a row.
• 25:16
  Oh yeah.
• 25:17
  So the other day
• 25:18
  you'd made an announcement
• 25:19
  that you're going to do,
• 25:20
  what was, what did you call it?
• 25:21
  What the fuck?
• 25:22
  I called it the
• 25:22
  (beep)
• 25:23
  (beep)
• 25:23
  (beep)
• 25:24
  (beep)
• 25:24
  (beep)
• 25:25
  (beep)
• 25:27
  Yeah.
• 25:27
  And I was like, I was
• 25:28
  like, I got to tell Josh
• 25:30
  to tell us, use the words.
• 25:31
  You don't have to, you know, rate G.
• 25:35
  We can PG-13 that automatically.
• 25:38
  Do you know that the
• 25:39
  thing actually picked up
• 25:40
  the
• 25:40
  (beep)
• 25:40
  (beep)
• 25:41
  as bad words?
• 25:43
  I didn't bleep the
• 25:43
  (beep)
• 25:43
  (beep)
• 25:44
  Yeah.
• 25:44
  I didn't bleep the
• 25:45
  (beep)
• 25:45
  Yeah.
• 25:46
  So it was really cool.
• 25:47
  It sounded great.
• 25:49
  All right.
• 25:50
  So what I'm telling you is
• 25:52
  be as colorful as you like.
• 25:53
  We're cool.
• 25:54
  Now I just have to remember
• 25:55
  to run the profanity filter
• 25:57
  on it, but before I publish.
• 25:59
  You can expect that one box otherwise.
• 26:02
  All right, anyway, switching gears.
• 26:04
  So you have an XJ.
• 26:08
  Well, this is actually
• 26:09
  does kind of apply to you
• 26:10
  because if you're new to the show
• 26:12
  and you don't know about
• 26:13
  the 37,000 times Josh's Honda
• 26:17
  was stolen from his driveway.
• 26:19
  Josh is very a keen
• 26:21
  observer of his Honda disappearing.
• 26:24
  It always came back.
• 26:26
  They were always, they always found it.
• 26:27
  He always got more stuff
• 26:29
  in it than when it left.
• 26:32
  I'm really using a couple of things
• 26:33
  from the first time it was stolen.
• 26:34
  I got this whole external battery pack
• 26:36
  that I use when I'm out and about
• 26:39
  and I charge my phone because I'm a miser
• 26:42
  and I'm still rocking a
• 26:42
  phone from like eight years ago.
• 26:44
  Oh yeah, no, I'm the same way.
• 26:46
  So this is an interesting thing as
• 26:48
  technology gets better.
• 26:50
  Apparently it gets easier to steal.
• 26:53
  So I think we've talked
• 26:55
  about this before Josh,
• 26:56
  you're aware of how they can use scanners
• 26:59
  to scan the key fob.
• 27:00
  Oh yeah, code grabbing has
• 27:02
  been a thing for decades.
• 27:04
  I mean, I remember back
• 27:05
  when even I was working
• 27:06
  in the automotive electronic business,
• 27:08
  the aftermarket world
• 27:09
  of automotive electronics
• 27:11
  and the alarm technology back then,
• 27:14
  and we're talking, this
• 27:15
  was 25 years ago or better.
• 27:18
  And the automotive technology back then
• 27:21
  was using things like
• 27:22
  code scare, code jumping
• 27:24
  to where the remote and the brain
• 27:26
  would communicate
• 27:28
  with each other and say,
• 27:28
  "Okay, we're gonna
• 27:29
  switch frequencies to this
• 27:31
  every time you push the button."
• 27:32
  And it kept going to different versions
• 27:35
  of a different frequency
• 27:36
  so that every time you push the button,
• 27:37
  it wasn't the same exact frequency code
• 27:40
  that was going out as the last time.
• 27:43
  And it would help you prevent from people
• 27:45
  grabbing the code from the vehicle
• 27:46
  and being able to
• 27:48
  disarm or rearm the system
• 27:50
  and screw with you.
• 27:51
  Yep, so this is high-tech Jeep theft,
• 27:54
  scanners, antennas, and your driveway.
• 27:59
  This scares the hell out of
• 28:00
  me because I have a modern day.
• 28:03
  It's a 2021 Gladiator, but
• 28:04
  I have a modern day vehicle
• 28:07
  that this can be done to.
• 28:08
  And we talked about this a while back.
• 28:10
  I think you were still
• 28:11
  with the show at the time
• 28:12
  where they sell RFID
• 28:14
  pouches and RFID boxes.
• 28:17
  Oh, it's even Faraday.
• 28:18
  It's like a Faraday pack
• 28:19
  or an envelope or a box.
• 28:21
  Yeah, you throw your
• 28:21
  remote to your phone in there
• 28:23
  at the end of the day
• 28:24
  and nobody can latch
• 28:26
  onto the frequency.
• 28:26
  They can't grab them.
• 28:28
  Right, and quite literally,
• 28:30
  and you guys have probably seen this,
• 28:31
  maybe not, this may be new to you,
• 28:32
  but the guys that are
• 28:34
  trying to steal your Jeep,
• 28:35
  they'll walk around your house,
• 28:37
  usually close to the front door,
• 28:39
  with these big wire
• 28:41
  antennas, big loop antennas.
• 28:43
  And they're walking
• 28:43
  around like they're an old man
• 28:45
  on the beach searching for
• 28:47
  stuff and buried in the sand,
• 28:49
  except they're holding the loop up high.
• 28:51
  Basically, they're sending
• 28:52
  out this code to the fob,
• 28:56
  your fob probably
• 28:57
  hanging close to the front door
• 28:59
  right there, and it will trigger it,
• 29:01
  and it will respond like it
• 29:03
  would respond to your Jeep
• 29:04
  whenever you're going to be driving it.
• 29:06
  And it would get the code,
• 29:07
  and then they would repeat that code,
• 29:10
  whatever it is, whether
• 29:11
  it's a code or some series
• 29:13
  of frequency changes
• 29:14
  or whatever it takes,
• 29:16
  and they would unlock the Jeep,
• 29:18
  hop in it, start it, drive it away.
• 29:21
  Oh, because nowadays, yeah,
• 29:22
  it's all proximity sensing,
• 29:25
  and you just get into the
• 29:26
  vehicle and you push the button.
• 29:27
  There's no key that goes
• 29:28
  into a cylinder anymore.
• 29:30
  Exactly, and of course,
• 29:31
  that was problematic too,
• 29:32
  because people would use
• 29:33
  screwdrivers and a hammer
• 29:34
  to bypass that.
• 29:36
  I mean, getting inside the vehicle
• 29:38
  is a little more difficult.
• 29:39
  This is just a clean,
• 29:42
  open the door, it unlocks,
• 29:43
  open the door, press the button,
• 29:44
  and back out and drive away.
• 29:46
  It was happening.
• 29:47
  We need to go back to
• 29:48
  the transponder days,
• 29:50
  where your key had a
• 29:51
  vehicle VIN-specific RF frequency,
• 29:55
  that the, I mean, GM did
• 29:57
  this back in the late 90s,
• 29:59
  early 2000s, to where
• 30:01
  you had to have that key
• 30:03
  to that vehicle, and it
• 30:04
  had to be within proximity
• 30:05
  of the ignition, because
• 30:07
  there was a little code ring,
• 30:09
  there was a little antenna that was built
• 30:11
  into the lock cylinder.
• 30:13
  And as that key was inserted,
• 30:16
  there's a small little microchip
• 30:17
  inside of the plastic part of the key,
• 30:20
  and it would, essentially,
• 30:21
  they would communicate with each other.
• 30:23
  And it was like, is this
• 30:24
  the right frequency key?
• 30:26
  Yes, it is.
• 30:26
  I will allow the electronic
• 30:29
  signal path to be connected.
• 30:30
  Yeah, the key would
• 30:31
  fit, and you can turn it,
• 30:32
  but then a little display would come up,
• 30:34
  theft, or what it was.
• 30:35
  Right, right.
• 30:36
  So if you didn't have
• 30:37
  the right frequency key,
• 30:37
  even though that key
• 30:38
  might've fit in the ignition,
• 30:39
  it would not start the vehicle.
• 30:41
  And so, this is a passive sort of thing.
• 30:44
  Now, even though the key
• 30:45
  fobs of today are a little,
• 30:48
  are somewhat similar in the sense that
• 30:51
  there is an active
• 30:52
  communication between the key fob
• 30:54
  and the vehicle itself,
• 30:55
  and that is what the Thebes are using,
• 30:56
  is that active
• 30:57
  communication between the fob
• 30:59
  and the vehicle itself.
• 31:00
  They're snatching that
• 31:01
  frequency, they're amplifying it,
• 31:03
  re-sending it back to the vehicle,
• 31:05
  and essentially the vehicle is thinking
• 31:07
  that you just push the button on your,
• 31:10
  the unlock button on your fob,
• 31:11
  and that's all the vehicle needs to see.
• 31:13
  Oh, okay, the vehicle's unlocked,
• 31:15
  I see the code for the fob,
• 31:18
  I'm gonna allow you to start the vehicle.
• 31:19
  And there's no steering lock anymore,
• 31:21
  as far as with the
• 31:23
  ignition go, the ignition lockout,
• 31:27
  as far as the
• 31:28
  steering lock and mechanical.
• 31:29
  Yeah, it's still there,
• 31:30
  but it's electronically disabled
• 31:33
  as soon as the vehicle sees that code.
• 31:35
  So, yeah.
• 31:36
  They save a nickel,
• 31:37
  not putting the lock
• 31:38
  mechanism on the steering wheel,
• 31:39
  which is another reason why they do it.
• 31:41
  Oh yeah, right, let's go ahead
• 31:41
  and make your fan
• 31:44
  blower computer controlled,
• 31:46
  but let's, like the ignition,
• 31:48
  let's not get the steering away
• 31:49
  from all the mechanical stuff.
• 31:51
  We've talked about subscriptions before,
• 31:54
  boy, locking the steering wheel
• 31:55
  would be a great description.
• 31:57
  Oh, you wanna drive your vehicle?
• 31:59
  We can unlock the steering wheel for you.
• 32:01
  You didn't pay your driver
• 32:02
  subscription fee this month,
• 32:03
  yeah.
• 32:03
  So the cool thing about that key thing
• 32:05
  you were talking about
• 32:06
  were the little chips
• 32:06
  embedded in the key.
• 32:08
  Yeah.
• 32:08
  There's no battery, I was gonna point
• 32:10
  that out for people.
• 32:11
  There's no battery in the key.
• 32:12
  It's the transmitting
• 32:15
  from the Jeep to the key,
• 32:17
  it would power that chip long
• 32:18
  enough to send back the code.
• 32:20
  So it wasn't a bad
• 32:21
  idea, it's pretty cool,
• 32:22
  until it wouldn't work and
• 32:25
  you had to go to the dealership
• 32:27
  and pay $200, $300,
• 32:29
  blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 32:30
  So I remember back in the day, it's like,
• 32:32
  oh, you want remote
• 32:32
  start with your suburban
• 32:34
  or your Yukon or something like that?
• 32:36
  Well, I'm gonna have to ask
• 32:37
  you to go to the dealership
• 32:38
  and go pay $250 to go get a key
• 32:40
  that we can then embed inside of this box
• 32:43
  that we're gonna mount
• 32:44
  upside underneath your dash
• 32:45
  that will tell the ignition that there's
• 32:47
  a key in the vehicle
• 32:49
  and that will allow you
• 32:49
  to remote start the rig.
• 32:51
  And, you know, a whole
• 32:52
  bunch of rig in my role
• 32:53
  for something so simple.
• 32:54
  So I'm gonna get off subject here,
• 32:57
  which is really unusual for me.
• 32:59
  I'm gonna task you
• 33:01
  with researching something
• 33:03
  that I think would be
• 33:04
  right up your alley.
• 33:06
  I was told you're being on that.
• 33:08
  You were, you just mentioned the box
• 33:11
  that's installed under the dash.
• 33:13
  What about the box that they now have in
• 33:16
  the 24, 20, 25 Jeeps
• 33:19
  that record every
• 33:22
  (beep)
• 33:23
  thing that you do
• 33:24
  and how fast you were
• 33:25
  going and where you were
• 33:27
  and giving the ability. Oh yeah, it's a
• 33:29
  philanthropy, it's a little black box.
• 33:31
  And they sell it,
• 33:32
  they sell the
• 33:32
  information to insurance companies.
• 33:36
  The Jeep has a, and I've only scratched
• 33:39
  the surface of this.
• 33:40
  That's why I'm asking you to get into it.
• 33:42
  Because like I say, I
• 33:42
  think you can get really upset
• 33:43
  about this.
• 33:44
  There's like a three step process
• 33:46
  that you have to go
• 33:47
  through to remove that box
• 33:50
  and convince the Jeep, it's okay,
• 33:53
  that you don't have GPS signal anymore.
• 33:55
  That box isn't connected
• 33:56
  anymore, but it's okay.
• 33:58
  You don't have to
• 33:59
  flashlights and stuff on the dash.
• 34:01
  Interesting.
• 34:02
  Yeah, I didn't think Jeep was doing this,
• 34:06
  but apparently in the 2024 and 2025,
• 34:08
  they've started doing it.
• 34:10
  And I think it has to do with government.
• 34:11
  It could be another revenue string.
• 34:13
  No, I remember the JKJKU series,
• 34:16
  there was something
• 34:17
  underneath the center console.
• 34:19
  It was about the size of
• 34:21
  like a DVD case or CD case.
• 34:24
  And it was only about three
• 34:25
  quarters of an inch thick,
• 34:27
  but it was like an
• 34:27
  accelerometer type of sensor
• 34:30
  that let the computer and the Jeep know
• 34:33
  that the Jeep was under acceleration,
• 34:36
  the Jeep was off
• 34:37
  camber, things like that,
• 34:39
  that allowed certain
• 34:40
  systems to work or not work,
• 34:42
  maybe tied into the
• 34:44
  vehicle security system
• 34:45
  to where if it saw
• 34:47
  somebody jack the Jeep up,
• 34:49
  as the vehicle was
• 34:51
  armed, it would be like,
• 34:52
  oh, hey, somebody's
• 34:52
  trying to steal the tires.
• 34:53
  Hey, somebody's trying
• 34:53
  to tow this thing away.
• 34:55
  Yeah, and it would
• 34:57
  trip the factory alarm.
• 34:58
  But I think this
• 35:00
  really, really is your line
• 35:02
  of getting pissed off and how you do.
• 35:04
  It's hilarious.
• 35:05
  Well, okay, so look, years ago,
• 35:07
  I can't remember which
• 35:08
  insurance company started it.
• 35:09
  It might've been
• 35:10
  progressive, it might've been GEICO,
• 35:12
  I can't remember, but-
• 35:13
  The little lizard.
• 35:14
  It was a little OBD2 fob
• 35:16
  that you could plug into the computer,
• 35:18
  plug into that port underneath your dash,
• 35:20
  and it would record
• 35:21
  your vehicle telemetry
• 35:24
  and then you would have to
• 35:25
  either upload it once a month
• 35:26
  or it did it automatically or whatever,
• 35:28
  and it would let the
• 35:29
  insurance company know,
• 35:30
  hey, he has exceeded the speed limit-
• 35:33
  I'm such a good boy.
• 35:34
  I'm doing what else is to do.
• 35:36
  It measured
• 35:36
  acceleration and braking as well.
• 35:38
  And so if you were a hard breaker-
• 35:40
  It would change the
• 35:41
  cost of your insurance.
• 35:42
  Absolutely, so if it saw
• 35:44
  that you like to accelerate
• 35:45
  from a stoplight very fast-
• 35:47
  Of course.
• 35:47
  A lot more frequently than the next guy,
• 35:49
  well, your insurance rate would go up.
• 35:51
  And the same thing with hard
• 35:53
  breaking, et cetera, et cetera.
• 35:54
  Having a badass Jeep, you should not be,
• 35:57
  you should get a badge.
• 35:58
  I want to drive it, so I'm
• 36:00
  gonna have a few more miles
• 36:01
  on it than the next guy, okay?
• 36:02
  So what, big deal.
• 36:03
  Well, we're gonna have to
• 36:04
  charge you more for that.
• 36:05
  Well,
• 36:06
  (beep)
• 36:06
  you, I don't need you
• 36:08
  watching how much I drive.
• 36:10
  I'm just gonna pay that flat rate.
• 36:11
  I don't need you watching where I go.
• 36:13
  I don't need you watching
• 36:14
  how fast I'm pulling off.
• 36:16
  Well, apparently a lot of people
• 36:17
  were feeling the way you felt, Josh.
• 36:20
  Yeah, I don't need big brother, watch me.
• 36:22
  It's like, you know-
• 36:23
  Now I've got an option.
• 36:24
  What are you doing now?
• 36:26
  (laughing) So knowing where you were,
• 36:28
  and this could be used in criminal cases,
• 36:31
  murders and stuff, you know?
• 36:32
  No, I wasn't there.
• 36:33
  You're smart enough to put
• 36:35
  your phone in a RFID bag,
• 36:37
  a Faraday cage type thing,
• 36:38
  so that they can't track you
• 36:40
  before that you're going
• 36:40
  out to get rid of that final
• 36:42
  problem with the ex-wife.
• 36:43
  And now they can just use your vehicle.
• 36:45
  I like the idea of, well,
• 36:47
  (beep)
• 36:47
  my vehicle just got stolen.
• 36:49
  Where is it?
• 36:50
  Well, you know, back in the day,
• 36:52
  OnStar could find the vehicle for you.
• 36:54
  That I believe they had
• 36:55
  some, you know, way back then
• 36:57
  you had like, what was that, LoJack?
• 36:59
  LoJack, exactly.
• 37:00
  Yeah, that was kind of
• 37:01
  really based in California,
• 37:03
  but then it went
• 37:04
  nationwide, like in the 90s and stuff.
• 37:06
  But nonetheless, that
• 37:07
  technology has sort of been out there
• 37:09
  for a bit of a, for a long while.
• 37:11
  Now, I don't need that
• 37:13
  being tracked though,
• 37:15
  and logged and sold.
• 37:17
  When it's for my benefit, I like it.
• 37:20
  When it goes against me, I don't like it.
• 37:22
  It's that simple.
• 37:23
  Exactly.
• 37:24
  So anyway, find out
• 37:26
  some stuff about that.
• 37:27
  And viewers, you need to
• 37:29
  stay tuned and hear Josh
• 37:31
  talk about this.
• 37:32
  Maybe this will be that
• 37:33
  (beep)
• 37:34
  thing you were talking about.
• 37:35
  What is that?
• 37:36
  What is that thing again?
• 37:37
  Say it again.
• 37:38
  There we go.
• 37:39
  That's pretty simple.
• 37:41
  All right, anyway.
• 37:44
  Let me give you a tease, Tony.
• 37:45
  I've got one loaded here.
• 37:46
  So let me finish up.
• 37:47
  I'm gonna finish up on this one.
• 37:49
  So as we've been
• 37:50
  discussing, this method exploits
• 37:52
  the passive keyless entry
• 37:54
  system found on a many newer Jeeps,
• 37:56
  Wranglers, Gladiators, Grand Cherokee.
• 37:59
  While the exact numbers for
• 38:00
  Jeeps are hard to isolate,
• 38:02
  relay attacks have become
• 38:04
  one of the fastest growing
• 38:06
  theft methods nationwide.
• 38:08
  Now I'm probably on another
• 38:10
  list, but I went over to eBay
• 38:13
  to see if I could,
• 38:13
  because it mentions in the stuff
• 38:15
  that I was researching,
• 38:16
  that you can get these devices
• 38:17
  off of eBay and I'm sure from another
• 38:19
  country or something.
• 38:20
  I'd like to have one
• 38:22
  just to see how it works.
• 38:24
  And who knows?
• 38:25
  Maybe I'll lose my keys.
• 38:26
  Oh, you're gonna end up on a list, Tony.
• 38:27
  You're gonna end up on a list.
• 38:29
  That's all I'm gonna say to that.
• 38:30
  The FBI may have a few
• 38:32
  questions for you in a few weeks,
• 38:33
  but you're gonna end up on a list.
• 38:35
  You gotta be careful with that.
• 38:35
  So you highlighted Taser
• 38:37
  Mini there in the show notes.
• 38:38
  And do you know about the pin code?
• 38:43
  Every time I hear
• 38:44
  something pops up in the Jeep world
• 38:47
  about this technology, I
• 38:48
  find out that the Taser Mini
• 38:49
  is capable of addressing it.
• 38:51
  And it's just like, what
• 38:52
  does this thing not do?
• 38:53
  What is this thing not capable of?
• 38:56
  I knew it was a cool
• 38:57
  device when it first came out
• 38:59
  and its capabilities,
• 39:00
  but it's like every couple
• 39:01
  of few years, I keep getting blown away
• 39:04
  about how the Taser Mini
• 39:05
  has, oh yeah, by the way,
• 39:06
  it also does this.
• 39:08
  Oh yeah, it can also do that.
• 39:09
  Remember that thing
• 39:10
  that you bought, you know,
• 39:11
  like five, six years ago, and
• 39:12
  now there's this new threat.
• 39:14
  Oh, by the way, that
• 39:15
  old device can take care
• 39:16
  of this new threat.
• 39:17
  And it's just, it's so cool.
• 39:18
  So it's like radar,
• 39:19
  it's like the radar guns
• 39:21
  that the police use
• 39:22
  and the radar detectors
• 39:24
  that people use.
• 39:25
  It's a back and forth.
• 39:26
  They're probably the same
• 39:27
  company doing both sides.
• 39:28
  Oh, geez.
• 39:30
  Yeah, but they have a pin
• 39:31
  code on the Taser Mini now.
• 39:33
  You can actually have
• 39:34
  to put in a pin code
• 39:35
  before you can drive away in your Jeep.
• 39:37
  It's like two factor authentication
• 39:40
  for driving your Jeep, you know.
• 39:41
  Yeah, exactly.
• 39:43
  Oh yeah, I mean, if nothing else
• 39:46
  for all of the other
• 39:47
  aftermarket abilities
• 39:49
  that the Taser Mini has, it
• 39:50
  also has a built-in security
• 39:51
  feature that completely
• 39:53
  makes this code grabbing stuff
• 39:54
  obsolete and makes it a moot point.
• 39:57
  So if you don't have a Taser Mini
• 39:59
  and you've got a newer
• 40:00
  Jeep and you're, you know,
• 40:02
  in the midst of building
• 40:03
  it or already have built it,
• 40:04
  look into the Taser Mini,
• 40:05
  look at what it can do for you.
• 40:07
  There is a ton of stuff
• 40:09
  that that Taser Mini can do
• 40:10
  that you will actually
• 40:11
  find rather impressive,
• 40:13
  not to mention, least of
• 40:14
  which being able to keep your Jeep
• 40:16
  in the driveway.
• 40:17
  I got a call the other night.
• 40:18
  My wife had driven the Gladiator, she
• 40:21
  loves the Gladiator.
• 40:22
  She drove it over to her
• 40:23
  mom's house and I got a call
• 40:25
  because she was gonna be leaving
• 40:27
  and all the lights were
• 40:29
  flashing on the Gladiator.
• 40:31
  The headlights were
• 40:32
  flashing, the running daylight,
• 40:35
  running lights were flashing.
• 40:36
  Nobody put in the disco mode.
• 40:38
  And not in sequence, I
• 40:40
  mean, in the sequence,
• 40:40
  but they were all
• 40:41
  randomly going off and on.
• 40:43
  And then it was like all over.
• 40:45
  It was this light show.
• 40:47
  And I told her, I said,
• 40:49
  yeah, on the Taser Mini,
• 40:51
  there is the way of
• 40:53
  turning on light show.
• 40:55
  Yeah, I was gonna say, I
• 40:56
  thought there was a feature
• 40:57
  in there that would allow you to do also,
• 40:59
  and it would just random disco mode.
• 41:01
  Yeah, it's really cool.
• 41:02
  You don't use it for
• 41:03
  anything, but you can do it.
• 41:05
  And I forget what it is
• 41:07
  now, but on the key fob,
• 41:10
  I think it's the remote start button.
• 41:12
  You press that thing two times
• 41:13
  and then you press another button
• 41:14
  and then you press the
• 41:17
  remote start button again
• 41:18
  and it turns it on.
• 41:19
  And the Taser Mini
• 41:22
  actually allows you to have four
• 41:23
  or five different light
• 41:24
  shows or you can do your own.
• 41:26
  Oh, that's cool.
• 41:26
  So she might've
• 41:27
  accidentally pushed some buttons
• 41:29
  or something like that and
• 41:30
  started this whole light show
• 41:31
  out the driveway.
• 41:31
  No, no, no, adamantly, I didn't do that.
• 41:36
  Okay, okay, it's aliens then.
• 41:39
  Did you see a UFO?
• 41:40
  Or do you have any missing time?
• 41:42
  Is your underwear on backwards?
• 41:43
  I was just talking to
• 41:44
  somebody the other day
• 41:44
  about sunspots, it's the strangest thing.
• 41:47
  So anyway, she got it turned off.
• 41:49
  She was happy she drove home.
• 41:51
  Personally, I think
• 41:51
  it'd been fun to drive it
• 41:52
  with the light show, but
• 41:54
  she's already worried enough
• 41:55
  about cops.
• 41:56
  But anyway, it has a lot of little things
• 41:59
  that you could do on there.
• 42:00
  I have not turned on the pin code
• 42:01
  because I'm afraid that my
• 42:04
  wife drives the Gladiator
• 42:05
  too infrequently and
• 42:07
  I'm gonna get a call.
• 42:08
  I can't remember the code.
• 42:10
  Yeah, and it's not an actual code.
• 42:12
  It's all like you're
• 42:13
  using the center display.
• 42:14
  All right, you put
• 42:15
  defrost button, horn twice,
• 42:16
  left turn signal, there you go.
• 42:17
  Well, unfortunately, it's
• 42:18
  all on the steering wheel,
• 42:19
  but it's like this button
• 42:20
  twice and blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 42:22
  It's a lot like dating.
• 42:24
  So anyway, now let's go back
• 42:27
  to what you were gonna talk
• 42:28
  about the
• 42:28
  (beep)
• 42:29
  which I can't remember.
• 42:30
  Yeah, so we teased this a week or two ago
• 42:33
  and I was talking about the
• 42:34
  segment that I kinda wanna do.
• 42:36
  And for those who have been
• 42:38
  a fan of the Jeep talk show
• 42:39
  or even way back in the day,
• 42:41
  the XJ talk show and stuff,
• 42:42
  you know that I love
• 42:43
  segments and different things
• 42:46
  that provide a little
• 42:49
  color and a little difference
• 42:50
  to the show.
• 42:51
  And we've done
• 42:52
  different things over the years.
• 42:53
  I mean, like Amazon, you
• 42:54
  bought what comes to mind
• 42:55
  and a few others that
• 42:58
  we've done over the years.
• 42:59
  Well, this is sort of
• 43:00
  in that same spirit,
• 43:01
  the
• 43:02
  (beep)
• 43:02
  you, you
• 43:02
  (beep)
• 43:03
  it's something that I
• 43:04
  have seen out in the world
• 43:06
  where you typically the Jeep world,
• 43:08
  if not just out driving around.
• 43:10
  And it's something that
• 43:11
  it's like, no, no, no, no, no.
• 43:13
  You don't get to get away with this.
• 43:15
  I'm sorry, we need to bring back
• 43:17
  a lot more shaming to society.
• 43:20
  That's what we're missing in this world.
• 43:22
  There's a lot of people
• 43:22
  out there that just do things
• 43:25
  because they think it's okay, because
• 43:26
  they think it's cute,
• 43:27
  because they saw somebody
• 43:29
  and they wanna do
• 43:30
  something like that too.
• 43:31
  And so on their stock
• 43:33
  (beep)
• 43:33
  renegade
• 43:34
  that looks like a
• 43:37
  corporate sized bag of Skittles
• 43:40
  has puked all over the dash
• 43:42
  because you've got 37
• 43:43
  ducks across the dashboard
• 43:45
  of your stock
• 43:46
  (beep)
• 43:46
  renegade.
• 43:47
  (beep)
• 43:48
  you, you
• 43:48
  (beep)
• 43:49
  that's not how this works.
• 43:50
  You have a bone stock Jeep
• 43:52
  that nobody fricking wants.
• 43:54
  And no, you're not part of this community
• 43:56
  because you decided yourself
• 43:58
  to put down an entire collection of ducks
• 44:00
  across your dashboard
• 44:01
  to make it look like
• 44:02
  the entire rainbow has
• 44:03
  puked across your dashboard.
• 44:04
  No, I'm sorry.
• 44:05
  (beep)
• 44:06
  you, you
• 44:06
  (beep)
• 44:07
  you don't get to Jeep your own,
• 44:08
  you don't get to duck your own Jeep.
• 44:09
  That's not how it works.
• 44:10
  You don't get to give
• 44:11
  yourself your own nickname.
• 44:13
  You don't get to give
• 44:13
  yourself your own call sign.
• 44:14
  I'm sorry, but
• 44:16
  (beep)
• 44:16
  you, you
• 44:17
  (beep)
• 44:18
  you don't get to do this kind of stuff.
• 44:20
  So for those of you who
• 44:21
  are putting colored ducks
• 44:23
  on your own dashboard,
• 44:25
  just go eat a bullet.
• 44:27
  Seriously, take
• 44:27
  yourself out of the gene pool.
• 44:29
  The Jeep community does not need you.
• 44:31
  We do not want you.
• 44:32
  You are not doing anybody any favors.
• 44:34
  And for God's sakes,
• 44:36
  throw away the ducks.
• 44:39
  Throw away the ducks.
• 44:40
  If you have a stock Jeep,
• 44:42
  you haven't done anything to it at all.
• 44:44
  Well, I put some new
• 44:46
  highway tires on it the other day.
• 44:47
  (beep)
• 44:48
  you, you
• 44:48
  (beep)
• 44:50
  I'm sorry, but no,
• 44:52
  the one sticker you
• 44:53
  put on the back window,
• 44:54
  the all terrain tires
• 44:56
  that you decided to buy
• 44:57
  that are 26 and a half inches tall.
• 45:00
  No, I'm sorry.
• 45:01
  Your bone stock
• 45:02
  Renegade, your bone stock Patriot
• 45:05
  that has 47 colored
• 45:07
  ducks across the dashboard
• 45:08
  of all different size, type and shape
• 45:10
  that you bought off of
• 45:11
  Amazon in one purchase.
• 45:13
  No, I'm sorry.
• 45:14
  It doesn't work.
• 45:15
  You don't get to do that.
• 45:17
  And if I see it again,
• 45:18
  I'm going to shame you
• 45:20
  publicly in some way,
• 45:22
  form or fashion.
• 45:23
  I will find a way.
• 45:23
  I will find a way.
• 45:26
  So I got to set myself a
• 45:28
  note to have a little banner,
• 45:29
  a little ticker at the
• 45:30
  bottom of the screen.
• 45:31
  The views expressed by
• 45:33
  Josh did not necessarily.
• 45:35
  I mean,
• 45:35
  Like those and the rest
• 45:36
  of the Jeep talk show.
• 45:37
  Even the bullet was a little too far.
• 45:40
  I mean, if you had
• 45:41
  given the caliber to use,
• 45:42
  then I think it had been a little worse.
• 45:45
  (laughs) Out here in the Pacific Northwest,
• 45:49
  I think it's the worst.
• 45:50
  Maybe you guys have seen this
• 45:52
  in your neck of the woods as well.
• 45:53
  I don't know, but out here.
• 45:54
  But does people having
• 45:55
  fun with Jeeps, Josh?
• 45:58
  No.
• 45:58
  In their own way.
• 45:59
  I'm sorry, out here in
• 46:00
  Brown Zero of Liptard Central,
• 46:03
  where it's nothing but
• 46:04
  Birkenstocks and Subaru's
• 46:05
  around here.
• 46:06
  If you're going to have a
• 46:07
  Jeep in the Pacific Northwest,
• 46:08
  you at least need to follow the rules.
• 46:10
  Okay.
• 46:11
  What a great place to have a Jeep too.
• 46:13
  I mean, beautiful wheeling locations.
• 46:15
  It's a shame.
• 46:17
  Sure, but if I see your
• 46:20
  stock Patriot out on the trail,
• 46:23
  and you've got every
• 46:24
  color of duck imaginable
• 46:26
  on your dashboard, no.
• 46:28
  Hanging from the rear of your mirror.
• 46:30
  You don't have a single,
• 46:32
  you don't even have a Jeep
• 46:33
  wave sticker on the mirror.
• 46:34
  (beep)
• 46:34
  (beep)
• 46:36
  So let me give you a little thing here
• 46:39
  that you can tell me what
• 46:39
  you would think about this.
• 46:41
  All right, you're off
• 46:41
  road, you're driving around,
• 46:44
  and that Patriot or
• 46:46
  that Compass or whatever,
• 46:47
  with all this stuff on
• 46:48
  it, they're off road.
• 46:50
  They've made the mistake to actually go
• 46:52
  in a hard off road thing.
• 46:53
  And they ask you, can you give me a tow
• 46:56
  through some of this stuff?
• 46:57
  It's just too difficult
• 46:59
  for me to go through there.
• 47:00
  Now, being the Jeeper that you are,
• 47:01
  you would definitely tow them.
• 47:03
  But how fast would it be?
• 47:06
  And would they become airborne?
• 47:07
  Would you basically be flying a Jeep Kite
• 47:10
  if you were towing them
• 47:10
  through the rough stuff?
• 47:12
  Hmm, good question, Tony.
• 47:14
  I call it, so there's been situations
• 47:16
  where I've been out on the trail
• 47:18
  and somebody's got
• 47:18
  their outback up there.
• 47:20
  And it's just like, what the
• 47:21
  (beep)
• 47:21
  are you doing up here with that?
• 47:23
  But they're blooming onions, by the way.
• 47:26
  There was something I saw,
• 47:27
  there was a vehicle up there,
• 47:28
  it was like a Hyundai
• 47:30
  or something like that.
• 47:30
  And, or, oh God, I can't
• 47:33
  remember what it was now.
• 47:34
  And it was like the last vehicle
• 47:36
  that you would ever
• 47:37
  expect to see off road.
• 47:39
  And it's just like, it's all wheel drive.
• 47:41
  It says AWD across the sky.
• 47:43
  Well, that must mean that
• 47:44
  I can go do off-road trails
• 47:46
  and stuff like that.
• 47:46
  And it wasn't that they
• 47:47
  were just like adjacent
• 47:49
  from a logging road.
• 47:50
  No, they were actually on a trail.
• 47:54
  And it's just like, I can't
• 47:55
  believe that you took this car.
• 47:57
  This car, it was a car,
• 47:59
  this one, or a minivan.
• 48:00
  I mean, this wasn't a
• 48:01
  truck, it wasn't a Jeep.
• 48:02
  It wasn't a vehicle by any
• 48:04
  stretch of the imagination
• 48:05
  that should have been
• 48:05
  anywhere off of a gravel road.
• 48:08
  But because it had the letters AWD on it,
• 48:10
  they thought, well, I could
• 48:11
  just about go anywhere I want to.
• 48:13
  And of course, no, they got stuck
• 48:15
  because their vehicle
• 48:16
  had highway tires on it.
• 48:19
  It had virtually no articulation.
• 48:21
  And of course, all
• 48:22
  wheel drive doesn't mean
• 48:23
  that you can get out
• 48:23
  of a stuck situation.
• 48:25
  And of course, no recovery points either,
• 48:27
  because well, why would we do that?
• 48:28
  Oh, you're not gonna do that.
• 48:30
  It's all wheel drive.
• 48:30
  No, in some words, it's wrapping a strap
• 48:33
  around the A-arm or something like that.
• 48:36
  Oh, there's a strap on somewhere involved
• 48:38
  in this situation, I can tell.
• 48:40
  Seriously, and so it got
• 48:41
  them back out to the road,
• 48:43
  but it was just like, you've got no
• 48:45
  business being here.
• 48:46
  I don't know what the
• 48:47
  (beep)
• 48:48
  you were thinking,
• 48:48
  but you need to go home.
• 48:50
  It was, I mean, it was seriously,
• 48:51
  it was one of those
• 48:52
  situations where it was just like,
• 48:53
  I had to educate the person.
• 48:55
  You've got no business being up here.
• 48:57
  You do not have the vehicle.
• 48:59
  You are not equipped.
• 49:00
  You are not personally equipped.
• 49:02
  You're up here in shorts and sandals.
• 49:06
  You don't even have a
• 49:07
  bottle of water with you.
• 49:08
  What if I hadn't come around?
• 49:09
  What if nobody else had come around
• 49:11
  and you're gonna spend the night up here?
• 49:12
  So let me give you an idea
• 49:13
  that I think might be a good one for you,
• 49:15
  those situations.
• 49:18
  For what, you need to
• 49:19
  have two sets of stickers.
• 49:20
  You need that
• 49:21
  (beep)
• 49:22
  thing that you were just talking about.
• 49:24
  And then also a trail rated sticker.
• 49:28
  So whenever you find them and you say
• 49:30
  you don't understand what's going on,
• 49:32
  you can't drive this Subaru off-road
• 49:35
  without a trail rated badge.
• 49:37
  And then you slap that on there.
• 49:42
  Just like Jeep did to the
• 49:43
  Liberty and other vehicles.
• 49:45
  Why is trail rated?
• 49:46
  I'm asking you to think of black rubber.
• 49:50
  Are we arrogant
• 49:50
  (beep)
• 49:51
  so we just think we're so
• 49:52
  superior than everybody else?
• 49:54
  It needs to be those stickers
• 49:55
  that like the highway patrol uses
• 49:56
  that when you park your vehicle off on
• 49:57
  the side of the road.
• 49:58
  Oh, you can't get them off, they tear.
• 50:00
  And they have super
• 50:02
  glue on the back of them.
• 50:05
  That's a sticker set that I need to get.
• 50:07
  And it's like, I was rescued by a jeeper
• 50:09
  because I was a dumb ass.
• 50:11
  And something like that
• 50:13
  across the back window,
• 50:14
  it's like, yeah,
• 50:14
  okay, here's your sticker.
• 50:17
  Everybody gets one, here's your one,
• 50:18
  but you gotta rock this shame badge now.
• 50:22
  All right, so not related.
• 50:24
  This is on the segue
• 50:25
  from dumb ass to Nicky G.
• 50:27
  But what the hell?
• 50:29
  Let's do it anyway.
• 50:32
  Let's get to Nicky G.
• 50:34
  From the mind of Nicky G.
• 50:39
  Hey, this is Nicky G.
• 50:40
  And I just found out that my countertops
• 50:42
  are made out of slate.
• 50:44
  Yeah, I've been taking them
• 50:44
  for granted this whole time.
• 50:48
  I can't remember the second joke.
• 50:53
  Hey Siri, tell me a dad joke.
• 50:59
  I asked my dad to teach
• 51:01
  me how to drive a stick.
• 51:02
  Okay, he said, but maybe
• 51:04
  we should start with a car.
• 51:11
  That sounds like a Nicky G joke.
• 51:14
  Okay, I can't be this lazy, can I?
• 51:17
  Met a guy online that said I could buy
• 51:19
  any monument I want in Egypt.
• 51:23
  Yeah, it turned out to
• 51:24
  be a giant pyramid scheme.
• 51:27
  (upbeat music)
• 51:30
  Thank you, please.
• 51:31
  Hard to believe I forgot that one.
• 51:33
  All right boys and
• 51:34
  girls, I said you later
• 51:34
  and have a good one, bye.
• 51:36
  Boop.
• 51:38
  Oh man, I miss me, Nicky G.
• 51:41
  I miss me some.
• 51:42
  And in fact, it
• 51:42
  actually reminds me of Nicky G.
• 51:44
  Something that I, it was
• 51:45
  a sign or a bumper sticker
• 51:47
  I saw the other day and
• 51:47
  it was basically like,
• 51:49
  oh here, let me go ahead and just
• 51:51
  (beep)
• 51:51
  on Nicky G's joke here.
• 51:53
  Hey Nicky G, what did the
• 51:54
  trailer say to the Jeep?
• 51:57
  Just keep going, I'll go where I'm toed.
• 52:00
  That's a Nicky G.
• 52:02
  That's bad.
• 52:03
  That's a Nicky G right there.
• 52:05
  I got it, I got it.
• 52:06
  You know, at least measure
• 52:08
  up to that level of Nicky G.
• 52:10
  So I miss me some Nicky G.
• 52:12
  I'm so glad that he has
• 52:14
  stuck with us all these years.
• 52:17
  And at this point, I mean,
• 52:18
  (beep)
• 52:18
  he's about ready for a paycheck.
• 52:21
  I know he's getting excited about that.
• 52:22
  He's like, I could get paid for a joke.
• 52:24
  He's been doing this for a long time
• 52:26
  and we really appreciate him.
• 52:28
  (upbeat music)
• 52:31
  So yeah, as I was mentioning to the group
• 52:35
  that's here tonight, I saw somebody post
• 52:38
  that Harbor Freight, they
• 52:39
  called it Helbo Freight,
• 52:41
  now has a switch panel
• 52:42
  for lights and things.
• 52:43
  And then of course
• 52:44
  it's not Jeep specific.
• 52:45
  You can use it for anything
• 52:47
  you wanna hang lights off of.
• 52:48
  And it made me think, I
• 52:50
  know the answer for me
• 52:51
  and I think a lot of you guys know.
• 52:52
  The answer for me is the question being
• 52:54
  how many aux switches do you need?
• 52:57
  And I think Dusty Dunn
• 52:59
  actually said on the Discord,
• 53:01
  all of them.
• 53:03
  (laughs) Because there's always something to add.
• 53:06
  John, you just mentioned
• 53:07
  you were taking lights off.
• 53:09
  Is there a reason why
• 53:09
  you're taking lights off?
• 53:10
  Because I mean, that's really what we do.
• 53:12
  You mainly use the
• 53:13
  switches for, I believe.
• 53:15
  Yeah, I've decided to kinda,
• 53:19
  the type of wheeling I'm gonna be doing,
• 53:21
  I'm gonna be going to
• 53:23
  a aftermarket roll cage
• 53:25
  and taking my windshield out
• 53:27
  because I was at Good Evening
• 53:28
  Ranch this past couple weeks,
• 53:30
  well over Memorial Day.
• 53:32
  And I seen a couple
• 53:33
  guys smash their windshield
• 53:35
  and their A-pillar in.
• 53:36
  So I'm gonna be losing the
• 53:38
  light bar and the pod lights
• 53:40
  and all that stuff.
• 53:42
  So, and my lockers are on,
• 53:44
  my lockers are aux locker, cable lockers.
• 53:47
  So I don't need a switch for that.
• 53:50
  Have you thought about going-
• 53:50
  I'm gonna be losing.
• 53:51
  Have you thought about
• 53:52
  going with the solenoids
• 53:53
  on the aux lockers and
• 53:54
  making them electrical?
• 53:59
  Everybody I've wheeled with recently,
• 54:01
  everybody that had some type of e-locker
• 54:04
  has had trouble with them.
• 54:05
  I'm not saying they're all bad,
• 54:06
  but I just like the,
• 54:10
  if it's in gear, it's in gear.
• 54:11
  If it's not, it's not.
• 54:13
  And then I gotta drive away function
• 54:15
  where I can screw it
• 54:15
  in if the cable breaks.
• 54:19
  It's just one less
• 54:20
  circuit to have to worry about.
• 54:22
  Yeah, I love the cable idea.
• 54:24
  I love the mechanical stuff, the linkage,
• 54:26
  not those little knobs that you turn
• 54:28
  to put it in four wheel drive.
• 54:29
  I think that is
• 54:29
  counterintuitive on any off-road vehicle.
• 54:32
  And I really like the
• 54:36
  mechanical side of things
• 54:38
  for controlling devices.
• 54:40
  My problem is, and of
• 54:41
  course I've never done it,
• 54:42
  which is probably why I have the fear,
• 54:44
  is how do you route that cable?
• 54:48
  Yeah.
• 54:49
  So I like the idea that
• 54:50
  Oxlocker has the ability
• 54:52
  to put solenoids on there,
• 54:54
  so the cable just has
• 54:55
  to run to the solenoid.
• 54:57
  Yeah.
• 54:58
  And then you control
• 54:59
  the solenoid electrically.
• 55:00
  And I think that's a great idea.
• 55:01
  And I think you can
• 55:02
  still do what you're doing
• 55:03
  where you have a lock or unlock manually,
• 55:06
  where you'd have to
• 55:07
  climb underneath there.
• 55:08
  So I've always liked the Oxlockers.
• 55:11
  I think that that's a cool locker.
• 55:13
  I'm kind of destined to
• 55:15
  ARBs for the gladiators,
• 55:17
  what I've got in the rear of the XJ,
• 55:20
  and one other one to install.
• 55:22
  All right, so let's see.
• 55:24
  Who else we got here?
• 55:25
  John Lee, how many
• 55:26
  auxiliary switches do you need?
• 55:30
  So I think it depends on kind of where.
• 55:32
  And when I say that, it's like,
• 55:34
  so my main panel, I've got, I think, six.
• 55:37
  Nothing fancy, it's the
• 55:38
  old school rocker switches.
• 55:39
  And I've got rock lights on one,
• 55:42
  my front lights on another.
• 55:43
  I've got under hood lights to turn on,
• 55:46
  and then front and rear locker.
• 55:49
  And then the last one is my radio.
• 55:52
  So I've got my GMRS radio program in one.
• 55:56
  And then I've also got rocker switches
• 56:01
  and underneath the seat to
• 56:02
  control the air compressor.
• 56:03
  And so like, I mean, to
• 56:05
  me, as many as you need.
• 56:06
  Like I don't think, if
• 56:08
  anytime I can get a good collection
• 56:10
  of them to kind of organize it,
• 56:13
  it's better to build that control center.
• 56:15
  So, because the part
• 56:16
  problem I'm starting to have now
• 56:17
  is like, you're
• 56:18
  starting to add these switches,
• 56:19
  but they're like,
• 56:19
  they're going everywhere.
• 56:20
  I can mount this over here.
• 56:21
  There's a air switch over here.
• 56:23
  There's a switch over there.
• 56:24
  So I think kind of organizing them
• 56:26
  into a single place sounds good,
• 56:28
  but you don't have to
• 56:28
  spend a lot of money.
• 56:30
  I mean, there's a lot of
• 56:30
  cool features you can get
• 56:31
  with Bluetooth and
• 56:34
  all that kind of stuff,
• 56:35
  but just plain old
• 56:36
  fashioned rocker switches
• 56:37
  with a remote source
• 56:38
  is really all you need.
• 56:40
  Relays and rocker switches.
• 56:43
  Yeah, that's really all you need
• 56:44
  and you can do so much with that.
• 56:47
  You don't need to spend
• 56:48
  700 bucks for a S-Pod,
• 56:50
  Bantam, blah, blah, blah.
• 56:51
  You can spend 250
• 56:53
  bucks for a rugged grid set
• 56:54
  and the right amount
• 56:55
  of cable in the build
• 56:56
  will get harnessed to it.
• 56:57
  You know, that's the right way.
• 56:59
  So do you have any concern?
• 57:01
  I don't think that
• 57:02
  anybody else drives your Jeep.
• 57:03
  They're probably scared to,
• 57:05
  but do you have any
• 57:05
  concern about somebody else
• 57:08
  driving your Jeep and
• 57:09
  you having to give them
• 57:09
  a crash course and probably
• 57:12
  what switch is not to press?
• 57:16
  Well, the locker switch is
• 57:17
  a little close to the rear,
• 57:18
  sort of the sun visor.
• 57:19
  I found that out the hard way, but.
• 57:23
  No, I think, so I've got, I bought those,
• 57:26
  you can get them on Amazon,
• 57:27
  some little stickers
• 57:28
  that kind of tell you
• 57:29
  what everything is and
• 57:30
  they're pretty descriptive
• 57:32
  of what they are.
• 57:32
  So I've got those on
• 57:34
  all the rocker switches,
• 57:35
  but like my gear shifters,
• 57:37
  I've got aftermarket
• 57:38
  gear shifters in there.
• 57:39
  I don't have the gear pattern on it.
• 57:40
  So you just gotta know
• 57:41
  what it is kind of thing.
• 57:42
  So nobody drives that Jeep.
• 57:45
  I have no idea that you're very in tune.
• 57:48
  You're the designer.
• 57:49
  You know where everything is.
• 57:51
  Although I bet whenever you haven't
• 57:53
  driven it in a while,
• 57:54
  you're trying to remember,
• 57:55
  well, what panel is that on?
• 57:58
  You can, but like I said,
• 58:01
  I got those little stickers on there.
• 58:02
  So I kind of know, but I
• 58:04
  do it, mine are so cheap.
• 58:05
  They don't even have the
• 58:06
  light up rocker switches.
• 58:07
  They're literally just the
• 58:08
  plain Jane rocker switches.
• 58:10
  So at night I just put my
• 58:11
  hand up there and just count,
• 58:13
  right, one, two, three, four, and hit it.
• 58:15
  Cause I know what number it is and hit
• 58:17
  the switch that way.
• 58:18
  So I'm a big fan of them.
• 58:20
  I started replacing,
• 58:22
  you're talking about getting rid
• 58:23
  of lights, KC Cyclone, the V2,
• 58:27
  we all use for rock lights.
• 58:28
  You mentioned aftermarket cage, John,
• 58:31
  they came out with a
• 58:33
  really cool light pod
• 58:35
  that has two cyclones in it.
• 58:36
  And it mounts to a roll bar up to like
• 58:38
  two and a half inches
• 58:39
  of tubing.
• 58:40
  And it's got this button,
• 58:41
  just like a factory dome light
• 58:43
  would have.
• 58:44
  So you can replace your dome light
• 58:45
  with these two Cyclone V2s.
• 58:47
  I actually sent KC a
• 58:48
  message and I was like,
• 58:49
  Hey, is there any way
• 58:50
  you can make that up
• 58:51
  like the factory bar?
• 58:52
  Cause that would be awesome to run too.
• 58:54
  It was like a pod with two KC Cyclones
• 58:56
  instead of the factory
• 58:57
  like dim led back there.
• 58:59
  So yeah, there's
• 59:02
  always room for switches.
• 59:05
  Oh yeah, absolutely.
• 59:07
  So let me ask you this, actually, Rick,
• 59:10
  are you doing the
• 59:11
  switches in your TJ build yet?
• 59:13
  Or have you already done that?
• 59:15
  Nope, hadn't got there yet.
• 59:16
  I got the aux beam eight
• 59:20
  panel switch is what I got.
• 59:22
  And I bought the, I went
• 59:24
  ahead and bought a bezel
• 59:25
  that goes around that it'll
• 59:27
  fit in and goes down there
• 59:28
  where the cigarette
• 59:31
  lighter quote, quote situation
• 59:33
  all that stuff is down there.
• 59:34
  So I'm, you know, I'm going
• 59:36
  to be pretty happy with that.
• 59:38
  I'll be controlling the,
• 59:40
  my rock lights with it.
• 59:41
  I also have my rock lights.
• 59:44
  I've got diodes built into my rock lights
• 59:47
  so that any, cause I
• 59:49
  can't, I was having a hard time
• 59:51
  seeing when I would back up.
• 59:52
  So I got my rock lights
• 59:54
  wired in so that when I put it
• 59:57
  in reverse, all my rock lights come on
• 1:00:00
  with my reverse light.
• 1:00:01
  So everything lights up all around me
• 1:00:03
  when I'm backing up.
• 1:00:04
  And then, but if I just
• 1:00:06
  turn on my rock lights
• 1:00:07
  my reverse lights don't come on.
• 1:00:09
  So that's what the dial does.
• 1:00:10
  And I like that.
• 1:00:13
  But, you know, with putting these JL
• 1:00:15
  Rubicon axles in there
• 1:00:17
  obviously I'm going to be
• 1:00:18
  controlling both lockers
• 1:00:19
  with a one switch for each locker.
• 1:00:23
  I've also got the fad
• 1:00:26
  and less I can figure out
• 1:00:27
  how to wire that into my
• 1:00:29
  four wheel drive, you know
• 1:00:31
  so that when I put it in four wheel drive
• 1:00:33
  kicks on and off, I'll be
• 1:00:36
  using one of those switches
• 1:00:37
  for that.
• 1:00:39
  I've also got a
• 1:00:41
  couple fog lights up front
• 1:00:43
  or amber lights up front.
• 1:00:45
  And then I've got some drive DRLs lights
• 1:00:51
  that I'll probably put on another switch.
• 1:00:54
  And then I'll probably wire one switch.
• 1:00:57
  I'm going to put some LED
• 1:00:58
  lights inside of the cab area
• 1:01:01
  because it's always really dim in there.
• 1:01:03
  I'm digging around in
• 1:01:04
  there trying to find stuff.
• 1:01:06
  But yeah, that's, I mean,
• 1:01:08
  that chews up a eight game switch
• 1:01:10
  pretty quick.
• 1:01:11
  It's amazing.
• 1:01:12
  Just doing that little bit.
• 1:01:14
  Yep.
• 1:01:16
  So that's my plan with all that.
• 1:01:18
  So I think all three of you guys
• 1:01:21
  have highly modified Jeeps.
• 1:01:23
  And I did a lot of stuff to
• 1:01:24
  my XJ, you know, cut it up
• 1:01:26
  put stuff in there.
• 1:01:27
  But with the Gladiator,
• 1:01:29
  I've kind of wanted to keep it
• 1:01:30
  in the factory.
• 1:01:31
  So I have the auxiliary
• 1:01:32
  buttons from the factory,
• 1:01:33
  the OEM ones.
• 1:01:35
  And I recently added the
• 1:01:36
  switch panel on the other side
• 1:01:38
  for the lockers.
• 1:01:39
  That's aftermarket,
• 1:01:40
  but it has an additional
• 1:01:42
  two auxiliary buttons there
• 1:01:43
  that I've used one of them.
• 1:01:46
  And I'm actually, I
• 1:01:49
  actually have all the parts.
• 1:01:50
  I just need to sit
• 1:01:51
  down and put it together.
• 1:01:52
  Actually working on a
• 1:01:55
  design that allows the auxiliary,
• 1:01:58
  one auxiliary button
• 1:02:00
  to operate three lights.
• 1:02:02
  So you press the auxiliary button once
• 1:02:05
  and then one set of light
• 1:02:06
  comes on the second one.
• 1:02:07
  The second light comes on
• 1:02:09
  our light group comes on
• 1:02:11
  press it again, the
• 1:02:12
  third light group comes on
• 1:02:13
  or it can turn groups
• 1:02:15
  of lights on together.
• 1:02:17
  So the trick is making it simple.
• 1:02:19
  But the cool thing about it
• 1:02:20
  is, is I'm not going to have
• 1:02:22
  to have buttons everywhere.
• 1:02:25
  I can just use that one
• 1:02:27
  button and, but then again,
• 1:02:29
  it goes back to knowing how to use it.
• 1:02:31
  And it's fun doing
• 1:02:33
  these things to our Jeeps,
• 1:02:35
  but we make it
• 1:02:36
  potentially make it undrivable
• 1:02:39
  by what I like to call civilians,
• 1:02:41
  people that don't want to
• 1:02:42
  put the time in to, you know,
• 1:02:43
  know how everything works.
• 1:02:45
  So that's why I asked John
• 1:02:46
  about if he was concerned
• 1:02:48
  about somebody driving his Jeep.
• 1:02:50
  And in, and in the, one of
• 1:02:52
  the most important things
• 1:02:53
  I forgot about is my five
• 1:02:55
  rack duck rotisserie thing.
• 1:02:58
  So that once I get that wired
• 1:03:00
  in, so that every time I start
• 1:03:02
  the Jeep it'll rotate one notch up.
• 1:03:05
  So that way there's
• 1:03:06
  always a fresh roll of ducks.
• 1:03:07
  A new set of ducks on the dash.
• 1:03:09
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:03:11
  That's very good.
• 1:03:11
  Very good.
• 1:03:12
  So this other viewers know that it
• 1:03:14
  haven't been here before.
• 1:03:16
  Rick, you have a TJ
• 1:03:17
  that you're working on.
• 1:03:18
  You got lots of plans.
• 1:03:19
  Of course, a lot of things
• 1:03:20
  have already happened to it,
• 1:03:22
  but you're actually planning on
• 1:03:23
  stretching that to a LJ size
• 1:03:26
  or longer than LJ?
• 1:03:29
  Well, it'll be longer than LJ.
• 1:03:30
  It'll be 115 inch
• 1:03:31
  wheelbase once it's finally done.
• 1:03:33
  Yeah.
• 1:03:34
  And John, you have a
• 1:03:36
  JKU standard transmission.
• 1:03:39
  Both axles have been changed.
• 1:03:40
  What else have you done?
• 1:03:42
  Keep it short.
• 1:03:45
  Keep it to the hot item.
• 1:03:47
  Pretty, pretty fancy stout suspension
• 1:03:50
  custom Fox shocks set up there.
• 1:03:55
  38 inch widows, beadlocks, bumpers,
• 1:04:00
  frame chop in the rear.
• 1:04:03
  Just put on a gym
• 1:04:03
  right rear tire carrier.
• 1:04:04
  It's pretty nice.
• 1:04:05
  Rhino line hardtop.
• 1:04:08
  Working on a rear seat delete
• 1:04:10
  and monster valves right now.
• 1:04:14
  But yeah, just a couple of things.
• 1:04:16
  And the other John we have here tonight,
• 1:04:18
  what have you done to yours?
• 1:04:20
  I don't know.
• 1:04:21
  I don't recall what you've done.
• 1:04:23
  He left.
• 1:04:24
  Oh, did he?
• 1:04:25
  He had to go.
• 1:04:26
  Yeah, he had work.
• 1:04:28
  He got a phone call.
• 1:04:29
  Had to go do some work.
• 1:04:32
  All right.
• 1:04:32
  Well, I see Glenn is here.
• 1:04:34
  Glenn, the question for tonight is
• 1:04:38
  how many auxiliary
• 1:04:39
  switches do you need in your Jeep?
• 1:04:42
  Say one more time.
• 1:04:43
  I couldn't hear you.
• 1:04:44
  How many auxiliary
• 1:04:45
  switches, auxiliary switches,
• 1:04:48
  do you need in your Jeep?
• 1:04:51
  Just enough to run everything.
• 1:04:54
  But is that the case?
• 1:04:56
  Do you install like 27 switches
• 1:04:59
  and then damn, I need one more.
• 1:05:04
  Well, in a TJ, you
• 1:05:05
  don't have a lot of room
• 1:05:05
  to put all these
• 1:05:06
  auxiliary switches anyway.
• 1:05:07
  Well, really, I understand
• 1:05:09
  that you can run out of room,
• 1:05:10
  but how many do you need?
• 1:05:12
  How many do you want?
• 1:05:14
  Well, I mean, the lights that I have,
• 1:05:18
  it's a dual switch.
• 1:05:22
  So I have one switch that'll do two
• 1:05:23
  things for the lights
• 1:05:25
  because they're both white and yellow.
• 1:05:29
  I don't know.
• 1:05:30
  That's fine.
• 1:05:31
  I don't have a little,
• 1:05:32
  yeah, I don't have a lot
• 1:05:33
  of electronics in my Jeep.
• 1:05:34
  Yeah, that's fine.
• 1:05:36
  Ask Rick, he's the one to turn me on
• 1:05:38
  using the blood pressure
• 1:05:39
  cuff to actuate the locker
• 1:05:41
  and then I'll put TJ Dana 44.
• 1:05:45
  Yeah, it's pretty cool.
• 1:05:47
  People still look at me funny.
• 1:05:50
  All right, so let's see here.
• 1:05:52
  I guess, did anybody have anything else
• 1:05:54
  they wanted to add to
• 1:05:55
  the auxiliary buttons?
• 1:05:56
  I mean, I think we need a bunch of them.
• 1:05:58
  The downside to me is where you put them,
• 1:06:00
  kind of like what John Lee said,
• 1:06:03
  where he's got several panels in
• 1:06:05
  different locations.
• 1:06:07
  And I can see how that could be
• 1:06:09
  cumbersome and troublesome,
• 1:06:10
  especially if you were in a situation
• 1:06:12
  where your thought is going
• 1:06:14
  to the line that you're taking
• 1:06:16
  or a serious situation you're in
• 1:06:18
  and you need to turn something on.
• 1:06:22
  Well, with my YJ,
• 1:06:24
  with Chapman running
• 1:06:25
  in forever and a day,
• 1:06:27
  I've purchased the painless 12 gauge
• 1:06:31
  and it's all connected one big long bar
• 1:06:34
  with 12 gauges side by side.
• 1:06:36
  And I've got all of
• 1:06:38
  them except three or four.
• 1:06:43
  And that's all lights.
• 1:06:44
  I mean, I've got, I think
• 1:06:45
  eight that are on lights,
• 1:06:47
  but my YJ has got more
• 1:06:48
  lights than it definitely needs.
• 1:06:51
  My JOU, which I daily
• 1:06:54
  drive, I'm similar to you, Tony.
• 1:06:56
  I've kept it for the most part stock.
• 1:06:58
  Currently I'm building a
• 1:07:01
  air system to go in the back
• 1:07:03
  that honestly I can remove, take out.
• 1:07:06
  I'm going on trips that I don't need.
• 1:07:08
  I'm not going on off-road trips,
• 1:07:09
  but long distance or
• 1:07:11
  traveling, visit family,
• 1:07:13
  different things.
• 1:07:14
  And I've actually got
• 1:07:15
  the switch built on it.
• 1:07:17
  So I opened up the gate, there's there.
• 1:07:19
  I turned the switch on, and now it's got
• 1:07:22
  a plug in it as well.
• 1:07:24
  But I was like, I could
• 1:07:25
  run air or a switch upfront,
• 1:07:27
  but I'm like, there's no reason
• 1:07:28
  everything's back here.
• 1:07:29
  Just keep it as one solid unit.
• 1:07:31
  When I did it, when I had the Forex C
• 1:07:34
  before I total did it,
• 1:07:36
  you know, I had all my,
• 1:07:38
  my four switches connected.
• 1:07:39
  And then I ended up
• 1:07:40
  buying a wireless remote
• 1:07:44
  for one of the, one of the companies,
• 1:07:46
  which actually was like,
• 1:07:48
  y'all, it was a two way.
• 1:07:49
  Cause I had the rock lights
• 1:07:50
  on the, on the gatekeeper,
• 1:07:52
  the spots on the gatekeeper.
• 1:07:54
  You hit it once, they were yellow.
• 1:07:55
  You hit it, you know, twice or a white,
• 1:07:57
  hit it again the
• 1:07:58
  third time when they were
• 1:07:59
  both yellow and white.
• 1:08:01
  But I kept, you know,
• 1:08:02
  my factory appearance,
• 1:08:05
  very appearance normal.
• 1:08:07
  I don't have all the extra,
• 1:08:09
  but I do love what you're doing in yours.
• 1:08:12
  That was very
• 1:08:13
  interesting to have the button,
• 1:08:15
  the double, double tap
• 1:08:17
  the button to change and,
• 1:08:18
  and offer more.
• 1:08:21
  So I'll throw out one
• 1:08:22
  thing, one extra thing
• 1:08:23
  that some of you may not
• 1:08:24
  have heard me talk about before.
• 1:08:27
  There's also a possibility
• 1:08:29
  that I'll be able to change
• 1:08:30
  the brightness of the LEDs
• 1:08:33
  with a couple of more parts
• 1:08:35
  with long presses on the button.
• 1:08:38
  So you press it once,
• 1:08:40
  you know, a quick once,
• 1:08:41
  twice or three times.
• 1:08:43
  And then you can also do a long press
• 1:08:46
  and it will go from
• 1:08:47
  full bright, half bright.
• 1:08:49
  And the one I'm
• 1:08:50
  currently calling a photo shoot,
• 1:08:53
  you know, where the light's on,
• 1:08:54
  but it's not on very bright.
• 1:08:56
  It's just there for long.
• 1:08:57
  Like a DRL.
• 1:08:58
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:59
  So, because I don't know
• 1:09:01
  if you guys noticed or not,
• 1:09:02
  when you're off road and if
• 1:09:03
  people are taking pictures
• 1:09:04
  of your Jeeps, it always
• 1:09:05
  looks better with the lights on,
• 1:09:06
  even during the day.
• 1:09:08
  It gives a little, kind of a pop.
• 1:09:10
  And of course, that's
• 1:09:10
  why we're all into Jeeps
• 1:09:11
  is because of how they look, right?
• 1:09:16
  So anyway, great.
• 1:09:18
  I think that the, I
• 1:09:19
  think the, I love lights,
• 1:09:21
  I love buttons.
• 1:09:22
  I'm down to, actually
• 1:09:25
  I have no free buttons.
• 1:09:26
  I have two switch panels,
• 1:09:28
  a total of eight buttons.
• 1:09:31
  Two of the buttons are for lockers
• 1:09:34
  that you can't use for lights.
• 1:09:35
  I could probably figure out a way,
• 1:09:36
  but I got them there for the lockers
• 1:09:38
  that whenever they get installed.
• 1:09:40
  And then I was real happy
• 1:09:42
  having two extra buttons.
• 1:09:43
  And I believe it was John
• 1:09:44
  Lee that pointed out to me,
• 1:09:45
  you're gonna use ARBs.
• 1:09:46
  You need some way to
• 1:09:47
  turn on the air compressor.
• 1:09:48
  So that ate up a button.
• 1:09:50
  (laughs)
• 1:09:52
  So I've actually got one free button.
• 1:09:54
  I'm sorry, actually I don't.
• 1:09:56
  I don't have a free button
• 1:09:57
  because that's the,
• 1:09:58
  for the air compressor.
• 1:10:00
  So anyway, I'm already
• 1:10:02
  running out of buttons
• 1:10:04
  and I don't really have that many lights.
• 1:10:06
  Oh, and the air compressor,
• 1:10:08
  I did the same thing you did Travis,
• 1:10:10
  in the back of the gladiator,
• 1:10:11
  I just mounted the via air compressor
• 1:10:15
  there on the rail system.
• 1:10:18
  And I put the switch and
• 1:10:19
  it's just a big toggle switch.
• 1:10:21
  I mean, there's no, I have no reason
• 1:10:22
  to turn the air
• 1:10:23
  compressor on and off from the cab.
• 1:10:26
  I need to have the switch back there
• 1:10:28
  where I'm gonna grab the hose
• 1:10:30
  and take it to the tires and fill up.
• 1:10:32
  It's perfect right there.
• 1:10:34
  No sense in having it running
• 1:10:37
  while I'm walking to the back.
• 1:10:39
  And that's, I was building this system.
• 1:10:41
  I've had the system for a while
• 1:10:43
  and I kept looking at it
• 1:10:45
  and figuring out where
• 1:10:46
  I was gonna mount it,
• 1:10:46
  what I was gonna do with it.
• 1:10:47
  But I've built it on a wood,
• 1:10:51
  a large wood board that,
• 1:10:55
  and I cut it the size to
• 1:10:56
  where it will actually fit
• 1:10:57
  where my depth tank is now.
• 1:10:59
  If I decide to move it,
• 1:11:01
  I can move everything
• 1:11:02
  down on the depth tank skid,
• 1:11:04
  which would keep it
• 1:11:06
  from what I understand
• 1:11:07
  and all the research I've done,
• 1:11:09
  it'd be completely fine back there.
• 1:11:10
  But it's a dual via air
• 1:11:12
  and a two and a half gallon
• 1:11:13
  tank or a two gallon tank.
• 1:11:15
  But right now, I mean,
• 1:11:16
  the clip I bought, the Connected,
• 1:11:19
  I can buy another clip and
• 1:11:20
  put alligator clips on it,
• 1:11:21
  move it to anybody's Jeep
• 1:11:23
  and run air tools if need be,
• 1:11:26
  or if they're not
• 1:11:27
  close enough or whatever,
• 1:11:28
  you got to air up a
• 1:11:29
  tire that's blown out,
• 1:11:31
  you can't get to it.
• 1:11:31
  I could literally carry my system down,
• 1:11:34
  clip in some alligator
• 1:11:36
  clips to a battery and run it.
• 1:11:39
  Oh, it was my whole insight and idea.
• 1:11:41
  But it's got the power
• 1:11:42
  switch right there on it.
• 1:11:45
  Very, very cool.
• 1:11:47
  All right, I have
• 1:11:47
  another question for you guys.
• 1:11:49
  I was hoping Steve would show up here
• 1:11:50
  because I know he
• 1:11:51
  really enjoys going topless.
• 1:11:55
  I was thinking about
• 1:11:55
  this and it may just be me.
• 1:11:57
  I have a definite way of
• 1:11:58
  looking at things differently
• 1:12:00
  than everybody else.
• 1:12:02
  Mine is kind of like, I love the Jeep,
• 1:12:04
  I love having my Jeep.
• 1:12:06
  I don't necessarily
• 1:12:07
  care for the topless nature
• 1:12:10
  or the doors off.
• 1:12:11
  I think it could be fun,
• 1:12:12
  but I think it, pardon the pun,
• 1:12:14
  opens you up to a lot of problems
• 1:12:17
  because especially down
• 1:12:18
  here in Southeast Texas,
• 1:12:20
  during the summer, it
• 1:12:21
  may be a beautiful day,
• 1:12:22
  no chances of rain.
• 1:12:23
  Well, actually there's
• 1:12:23
  always a 20% chance of rain
• 1:12:25
  during the summer.
• 1:12:26
  And then you catch yourself
• 1:12:27
  getting the inside of your Jeep soaked.
• 1:12:30
  A lot of people, they don't care.
• 1:12:33
  I mean, you might care,
• 1:12:34
  Travis, you have a new Jeep,
• 1:12:36
  but I think some of the older Jeeps.
• 1:12:39
  So my question is,
• 1:12:41
  how many of you guys
• 1:12:43
  really like going topless?
• 1:12:46
  I know Steve takes the top off of his,
• 1:12:49
  the doors and
• 1:12:49
  everything, and during the summer,
• 1:12:51
  it's 100% topless.
• 1:12:53
  I can't see doing that.
• 1:12:55
  It's just too
• 1:12:55
  uncomfortable with the heat.
• 1:12:57
  And yeah, so Travis,
• 1:13:00
  let's start with you.
• 1:13:01
  Do you do, in the picture behind you,
• 1:13:03
  you're topless and doorless?
• 1:13:05
  I just put my soft top on.
• 1:13:08
  I prefer it like it is in that picture,
• 1:13:11
  100%, no top, no soft top, nothing.
• 1:13:14
  But with the soft top,
• 1:13:16
  I can throw the top up,
• 1:13:18
  which will not eliminate it getting wet,
• 1:13:21
  but it will, it helps a lot.
• 1:13:26
  I prefer Jeep topless, doorless,
• 1:13:28
  and I think a lot of that
• 1:13:29
  has to do with my weather.
• 1:13:31
  Compared to Southeast Texas,
• 1:13:33
  we are definitely hot and humid,
• 1:13:35
  but when you're moving,
• 1:13:38
  I'm not bothered by it.
• 1:13:39
  I just got grew up with a Jeep.
• 1:13:41
  I mean, my first
• 1:13:42
  vehicle as a 16 year old,
• 1:13:45
  it had no air conditioner in it.
• 1:13:46
  It wasn't broken, it didn't have one.
• 1:13:49
  So yeah, I mean, as
• 1:13:50
  long as you're moving,
• 1:13:50
  it's not so bad, but you find traffic
• 1:13:54
  or something breaks down and it sucks.
• 1:13:57
  It sucks, and that's,
• 1:13:58
  I think a bikini top,
• 1:14:00
  spider web shade,
• 1:14:01
  something is key if you're topless.
• 1:14:04
  Without it, like I will not run without
• 1:14:07
  my spider web shade.
• 1:14:08
  Like it's mounted in there,
• 1:14:10
  it's gonna be there 110% of the top.
• 1:14:12
  It will never get removed, it's there.
• 1:14:15
  I honestly wish they had
• 1:14:16
  full bikini tops for the JLs
• 1:14:18
  and they don't.
• 1:14:19
  I'm able to use my soft
• 1:14:20
  top in that avenue now.
• 1:14:23
  I'm able to throw it up, it sticks over.
• 1:14:25
  I wish it wasn't as big and
• 1:14:27
  went over the whole rear end.
• 1:14:29
  And they make those, but I
• 1:14:32
  purchased the dual top package
• 1:14:35
  with the 4XE, I kept the soft top
• 1:14:37
  and it's on the EcoDiesel now.
• 1:14:40
  I love topless doorways.
• 1:14:43
  That is, it's my happy place driving,
• 1:14:46
  whether it's traffic, no traffic,
• 1:14:48
  highways, mountains, just,
• 1:14:53
  it's a happy place for me.
• 1:14:54
  And that goes back to high school days,
• 1:14:56
  driving it as a kid.
• 1:14:58
  The YJ, I just, that's what I prefer,
• 1:15:01
  but we don't have the
• 1:15:02
  crazy weather you do in Texas.
• 1:15:04
  And if it gets wet, it
• 1:15:05
  gets wet, I could care less.
• 1:15:07
  Are you protecting your,
• 1:15:08
  are you protecting your
• 1:15:09
  infotainment system at all?
• 1:15:11
  Do you have something
• 1:15:11
  that you can cover it?
• 1:15:13
  No, no.
• 1:15:14
  And I think a lot of
• 1:15:17
  that is over marketed BS.
• 1:15:20
  The reality of it is, if
• 1:15:22
  you're driving on the highway,
• 1:15:24
  it's gonna get wet, but
• 1:15:25
  it's not gonna be in a monsoon.
• 1:15:27
  It comes in from behind you driving.
• 1:15:30
  You know, you're
• 1:15:31
  driving down the highway,
• 1:15:32
  you're driving down the road.
• 1:15:34
  It's coming in from behind you.
• 1:15:35
  Where it sits parked, it
• 1:15:39
  will get moisture on it,
• 1:15:40
  but it's not gonna get soaking wet.
• 1:15:42
  I've completely had
• 1:15:44
  mine sit now without a top,
• 1:15:46
  without a door, without anything on it,
• 1:15:48
  and everything's been fine.
• 1:15:50
  I've pressure washed
• 1:15:51
  the inside of the ForexE,
• 1:15:52
  never had an issue.
• 1:15:54
  And I'm not blowing directly on that
• 1:15:56
  infotainment center.
• 1:15:57
  Like I know better to do
• 1:15:58
  that, but the floor, the deck,
• 1:16:00
  I mean, the console, I mean,
• 1:16:02
  I'm pressure washing all of that,
• 1:16:04
  and it's getting
• 1:16:05
  sprayed, it's getting wet,
• 1:16:06
  never once had an issue.
• 1:16:08
  You've got the dash
• 1:16:09
  ponchos, I think they're good,
• 1:16:11
  but I think people like putting helmets
• 1:16:15
  on your kids nowadays, they
• 1:16:17
  overreact to too much stuff.
• 1:16:19
  You know, it's like, you're gonna learn,
• 1:16:21
  and maybe I'm wrong,
• 1:16:23
  and maybe it'll bite
• 1:16:23
  me in the ass one day,
• 1:16:24
  but I'm not gonna set out
• 1:16:26
  to put it in a fishbowl,
• 1:16:28
  but I'm also not real worried about it.
• 1:16:31
  If I've got the soft top on,
• 1:16:33
  and I've got the rear window,
• 1:16:34
  that's gonna stop 98% of
• 1:16:37
  all the rain coming in.
• 1:16:38
  So how are you concerned
• 1:16:39
  about getting the carpet wet
• 1:16:41
  and getting that moldy stink?
• 1:16:43
  No, the YJ has the original
• 1:16:45
  carpet in it from day one,
• 1:16:47
  and it does not sink.
• 1:16:48
  I will pull it out, I
• 1:16:49
  will pressure wash it.
• 1:16:50
  When I am driving it, it's not been
• 1:16:53
  sitting for four years,
• 1:16:56
  I'd pull the carpet out and
• 1:16:57
  pressure wash it going in,
• 1:16:59
  pressure wash it coming out
• 1:17:01
  with the top in the season.
• 1:17:03
  So that's what I did, and I
• 1:17:05
  do not have a smell in my YJ,
• 1:17:07
  and that's a 1989 YJ that I've maintained
• 1:17:11
  and keep care of it.
• 1:17:12
  Yeah, I think we've
• 1:17:13
  discussed this before.
• 1:17:14
  Do you have plans for armor light
• 1:17:17
  flooring for your Jeep?
• 1:17:19
  I've debated it, but
• 1:17:21
  the reality of it is,
• 1:17:22
  I haven't had an issue with the carpet,
• 1:17:24
  and it does honestly
• 1:17:26
  keep some of the heat out.
• 1:17:28
  I'm gonna leave it in there.
• 1:17:30
  The armor light I like, and
• 1:17:32
  I love every aspect of it,
• 1:17:34
  especially because that
• 1:17:35
  thing, I will just sit out
• 1:17:36
  and let it just get doused in rain.
• 1:17:38
  I mean, it doesn't matter,
• 1:17:40
  but the carpet will keep heat
• 1:17:43
  because a lot of heat comes
• 1:17:44
  in from that engine, that bay,
• 1:17:46
  because I've had it
• 1:17:46
  removed, driving it around
• 1:17:48
  while I was cleaning the
• 1:17:48
  carpet, letting it dry,
• 1:17:49
  doing different stuff.
• 1:17:51
  There's a lot of heat
• 1:17:51
  coming in from that,
• 1:17:52
  even driving to the traffic.
• 1:17:54
  Yeah, so I like the
• 1:17:56
  big fan of the carpet,
• 1:17:57
  and it's got the
• 1:17:58
  insulation still under it as well.
• 1:18:00
  Yeah, yeah, so Rick, I
• 1:18:01
  think that you prefer topless
• 1:18:04
  on your rig, don't you?
• 1:18:07
  During the summer, which you
• 1:18:08
  can see from my picture there,
• 1:18:10
  I've modified a hard top and
• 1:18:13
  turned it into a safari top
• 1:18:14
  I got out of a junkyard,
• 1:18:16
  and that's how I run all summer.
• 1:18:20
  And before I had this,
• 1:18:22
  I had a soft safari top,
• 1:18:24
  and you remember I drove
• 1:18:24
  that all the way down to Texas
• 1:18:26
  like that, and wheeled the whole week,
• 1:18:29
  or three, four days in
• 1:18:30
  Texas, and then drove it back.
• 1:18:33
  And I've been caught in the
• 1:18:35
  rain several times with that,
• 1:18:36
  and it really don't get wet in there,
• 1:18:37
  and I've got the armor like 40 in it.
• 1:18:42
  Somebody's gonna chime in about the lake.
• 1:18:45
  About the lake, about the drowning it.
• 1:18:47
  Yeah, well there was a
• 1:18:48
  slight incident with a,
• 1:18:51
  I baptized it up to the grab handles,
• 1:18:54
  and yeah, after that the
• 1:18:57
  carpet started getting sour,
• 1:18:58
  so that's when I put
• 1:18:59
  the armolite in there.
• 1:19:00
  I was thinking you used that stuff.
• 1:19:02
  I've only seen it, I
• 1:19:04
  interviewed the guy a couple of times,
• 1:19:06
  and saw it at EJS one
• 1:19:08
  year at the display,
• 1:19:11
  and it looked really, really nice.
• 1:19:12
  How has it been for you?
• 1:19:14
  It looks super.
• 1:19:17
  It's awesome.
• 1:19:18
  I'm talking about heat, man,
• 1:19:19
  that stuff is like a quarter,
• 1:19:21
  it may be a thick--
• 1:19:23
  Yeah, it's very thick.
• 1:19:24
  Maybe 3 1�8 of an
• 1:19:25
  inch thick, I don't know.
• 1:19:25
  Yeah, I think it's
• 1:19:26
  thicker than a quarter.
• 1:19:27
  Yeah, it's really, really thick.
• 1:19:29
  It's a workout
• 1:19:30
  putting that stuff in there.
• 1:19:31
  You're sweating like a, yeah.
• 1:19:35
  But man, when I had my hardtop on,
• 1:19:39
  and my hard doors on,
• 1:19:41
  when it's fully enclosed,
• 1:19:42
  I've got the boom mat in
• 1:19:43
  the top of the hardtop,
• 1:19:45
  but I can drive that
• 1:19:47
  TJ down the interstate,
• 1:19:48
  75 mile an hour, and talk
• 1:19:50
  hands-free on the phone.
• 1:19:52
  Oh, really?
• 1:19:52
  I was gonna say, you need a
• 1:19:54
  set of those David Clark's,
• 1:19:55
  like they have in airplanes.
• 1:19:57
  Yeah, no, it's, I mean,
• 1:19:59
  for a TJ, that's pretty good.
• 1:20:02
  But yeah, I can talk, I can listen to
• 1:20:04
  radio and everything.
• 1:20:06
  It made a huge, huge impact
• 1:20:08
  on the sound and heat quality,
• 1:20:10
  and just cleaning, to clean that thing,
• 1:20:15
  I've been down there in the Arkansas mud
• 1:20:17
  where it was pretty bad,
• 1:20:20
  and the whole bottom of that thing had,
• 1:20:22
  by the time it all dried,
• 1:20:24
  I had probably an inch of
• 1:20:25
  dirt in the bottom of that,
• 1:20:28
  and you just pop those little,
• 1:20:30
  pop the little drain holes open,
• 1:20:33
  rinse it out in a
• 1:20:35
  little bit of soap and water,
• 1:20:36
  and then, man, that's like literally in
• 1:20:39
  two or three minutes,
• 1:20:40
  that floor is clean,
• 1:20:42
  and it's pretty good.
• 1:20:43
  I really, I'm a huge proponent of that.
• 1:20:47
  So the cool thing,
• 1:20:49
  when you drive to a
• 1:20:51
  wheeling destination like EJS,
• 1:20:53
  because that probably
• 1:20:54
  is the longest drive
• 1:20:56
  that you've done with your open air Jeep,
• 1:20:59
  the great thing about
• 1:20:59
  driving the EJS or Moab
• 1:21:01
  to go wheeling with it
• 1:21:03
  all open like that is,
• 1:21:04
  you don't have to take the doors off
• 1:21:06
  and store them in your
• 1:21:07
  hotel room or at the campsite.
• 1:21:09
  You just go.
• 1:21:11
  Yeah, now I haven't driven it that far,
• 1:21:13
  but now in July, I'm going out to
• 1:21:16
  Colorado and the Rubicon,
• 1:21:17
  and I plan on having a modified version
• 1:21:20
  of what you're looking at now,
• 1:21:22
  but I'm gonna have it
• 1:21:23
  combined with the soft top,
• 1:21:25
  I'm using my half
• 1:21:26
  doors with some soft top,
• 1:21:29
  the soft top doors, you
• 1:21:32
  know what I'm talking about?
• 1:21:33
  Yeah, the upper.
• 1:21:35
  Yeah, the upper, and so I
• 1:21:37
  plan on running it like that,
• 1:21:39
  so it'll be, for one thing,
• 1:21:40
  when you got that hard top on there,
• 1:21:42
  it's like giving a 400
• 1:21:43
  pound kid a piggyback ride.
• 1:21:45
  I can tell, as soon
• 1:21:46
  as I put that thing on,
• 1:21:47
  I can tell a huge difference in where
• 1:21:50
  that thing rides around.
• 1:21:52
  So let me ask you this,
• 1:21:54
  do you feel like you go
• 1:21:57
  topless simply to fit the narrative
• 1:21:59
  of the Jeep?
• 1:22:00
  Do you do it because people expect that
• 1:22:03
  and you're doing it to
• 1:22:06
  appease people that may,
• 1:22:07
  I don't know if anybody's
• 1:22:08
  ever given you a hard time
• 1:22:09
  about not being topless,
• 1:22:11
  that's not a real Jeep,
• 1:22:12
  that type of thing, but does
• 1:22:14
  any of this have anything to do
• 1:22:15
  with what other people think about it?
• 1:22:18
  No, it wouldn't matter anyway,
• 1:22:19
  I do what I want to with my Jeep.
• 1:22:21
  I mean, I'm gonna do what I want to do.
• 1:22:23
  I think some people go
• 1:22:23
  topless because they think that,
• 1:22:26
  and initially, I believe that the idea
• 1:22:28
  behind it is so cool,
• 1:22:30
  it's a great, you want to do that,
• 1:22:31
  and then when you do it, for some people,
• 1:22:35
  it's like, holy crap, this is hot.
• 1:22:37
  Holy crap, I got a
• 1:22:38
  sunburn for the bald people.
• 1:22:41
  Holy crap, my head is burned.
• 1:22:44
  When it's extremely, extremely hot,
• 1:22:47
  I'll put a top on.
• 1:22:48
  Like I'm not doing it for the people,
• 1:22:51
  I personally enjoy it,
• 1:22:53
  but if it's miserably hot,
• 1:22:56
  like when you get in
• 1:22:57
  Texas, I wouldn't be mad at you.
• 1:22:59
  I'm like, yeah, AC's nice.
• 1:23:02
  But again, me, I go back to, you know,
• 1:23:07
  92, buying my first Jeep, it
• 1:23:09
  was a matter of it's a Jeep,
• 1:23:10
  and it was the mindset, and
• 1:23:12
  it may still be in my head,
• 1:23:14
  no, it's a Jeep, it's gotta be topless.
• 1:23:17
  So I will say that, but Rick, on yours,
• 1:23:20
  a tonneau cover and a
• 1:23:21
  wind jammer and a bikini top,
• 1:23:23
  that's what I will run when
• 1:23:27
  I was daily driving the YJ,
• 1:23:29
  just the wind jammer is absolutely
• 1:23:31
  one of the best
• 1:23:32
  things, best tops ever made
• 1:23:33
  for the older Jeeps,
• 1:23:34
  and the tonneau cover,
• 1:23:36
  cover hook at the back, you know,
• 1:23:38
  keeps everything secure, out of sight,
• 1:23:39
  out of mind as well,
• 1:23:41
  and then a bikini top
• 1:23:42
  with the half uppers
• 1:23:44
  is a great setup for you
• 1:23:46
  and traveling some distance.
• 1:23:50
  Yeah, but the thing is, is, you know,
• 1:23:52
  I'm gonna be going
• 1:23:54
  out there for two weeks,
• 1:23:55
  so I've gotta carry a lot of stuff,
• 1:23:57
  and having room for
• 1:23:58
  all of that, you know,
• 1:23:59
  I almost kinda need some
• 1:24:01
  of that space back there,
• 1:24:02
  but we'll see, but, you
• 1:24:04
  know, I was also gonna say,
• 1:24:06
  you know, just like I
• 1:24:07
  got it in that picture,
• 1:24:09
  you know, driving through the hills,
• 1:24:11
  the windy, curvy roads in the
• 1:24:12
  hills down there in Arkansas
• 1:24:14
  when it's on beautiful days.
• 1:24:15
  Oh, the smells.
• 1:24:17
  And just a little bit of music going
• 1:24:20
  and just cruising through
• 1:24:21
  the menace, nothing like it.
• 1:24:23
  All right, let's jump over to John Lee.
• 1:24:25
  John Lee, I forget how you run yours
• 1:24:27
  whenever we're out doing
• 1:24:28
  stuff like at Hidden Falls
• 1:24:30
  or something.
• 1:24:31
  Are you doorless and topless?
• 1:24:32
  I don't think you are, are you?
• 1:24:35
  I'm all buttoned up, but I mean,
• 1:24:38
  you mentioned in the weather in Texas,
• 1:24:39
  so one of the reasons I
• 1:24:40
  don't go doorless in Texas
• 1:24:41
  is I live in the Austin Metro,
• 1:24:43
  and we have this
• 1:24:44
  little thing called traffic,
• 1:24:46
  and as much as you wanna be moving
• 1:24:48
  and let the air cool
• 1:24:49
  you down and everything,
• 1:24:50
  that's not what happens.
• 1:24:51
  What happens is you
• 1:24:52
  get stuck on the highway,
• 1:24:54
  and it's 110 degrees,
• 1:24:55
  and the heat is radiating
• 1:24:56
  off of the pavement
• 1:24:57
  straight into your face.
• 1:24:59
  It's not a pleasant experience.
• 1:25:01
  I actually had my hardtop
• 1:25:03
  right on line or line edge,
• 1:25:05
  whatever, and I had them
• 1:25:06
  color match it to the paint,
• 1:25:07
  so they just used the
• 1:25:08
  same paint from Mopar
• 1:25:10
  and mixed it in with it, so
• 1:25:11
  it all kind of goes together.
• 1:25:13
  That being said, I am
• 1:25:14
  probably about to switch
• 1:25:16
  to a soft top because last
• 1:25:17
  time we're out of Hidden Falls,
• 1:25:19
  I smacked the back of the
• 1:25:20
  hardtop pretty damn hard,
• 1:25:22
  and it's got some cracks and some damage,
• 1:25:25
  so I'm probably gonna end up switching
• 1:25:27
  to a soft top before long, but I've
• 1:25:29
  always liked the route.
• 1:25:30
  I run a big 15-pound
• 1:25:31
  power tank in the back.
• 1:25:33
  I've got a cargo dog
• 1:25:35
  netting that you put in the back
• 1:25:37
  for supposed to when you run in topless,
• 1:25:39
  but it's great,
• 1:25:39
  almost like a giant molly.
• 1:25:41
  I put all kinds of stuff, air tools,
• 1:25:44
  or anything else up
• 1:25:44
  there, and when you're camping,
• 1:25:46
  it's great because I
• 1:25:47
  sleep in the back of it,
• 1:25:49
  and so you got all that extra room,
• 1:25:52
  so I like the hardtop
• 1:25:54
  on, I like the doors on.
• 1:25:55
  I do like wheeling with
• 1:25:56
  the doors off sometimes
• 1:25:58
  unless it's getting muddy.
• 1:26:00
  No, yeah. If it's getting muddy
• 1:26:01
  or such. Well, you can see,
• 1:26:01
  you can see the trail better, can't you?
• 1:26:03
  You can lean out.
• 1:26:04
  You can, but I run
• 1:26:06
  really, really narrow fenders,
• 1:26:08
  so what I see is my tire
• 1:26:11
  directly in front of me,
• 1:26:12
  and it's gonna be slinging mud.
• 1:26:15
  Whenever we go on our big trips to
• 1:26:16
  Colorado and all that,
• 1:26:18
  you'll pull all the
• 1:26:19
  rigs up next to each other,
• 1:26:21
  and everybody else is
• 1:26:22
  running full fenders,
• 1:26:23
  and they're kind of clean down the side.
• 1:26:24
  Mind you, you can't
• 1:26:25
  even tell what color it is.
• 1:26:26
  There's just mud top,
• 1:26:27
  the front, the back,
• 1:26:28
  it's off the bottom,
• 1:26:29
  it's just completely coated
• 1:26:30
  because I got those tires that stick
• 1:26:32
  way outside the fenders, so.
• 1:26:34
  I think that maybe if
• 1:26:36
  I have bigger fenders,
• 1:26:39
  I might run it doorless a
• 1:26:40
  little bit more on the trails,
• 1:26:41
  but I think I'm probably gonna be,
• 1:26:44
  plus the JK doors are
• 1:26:45
  steel, they're heavy as hell,
• 1:26:47
  so taking those off and on
• 1:26:48
  and finding a place to put them,
• 1:26:50
  all four of them or whatever, it's just,
• 1:26:53
  you know, it's not the greatest, so.
• 1:26:54
  Yeah, well, half doors.
• 1:26:54
  It's just a matter of convenience.
• 1:26:56
  Half doors or the half door uppers
• 1:26:58
  would be pretty good, right?
• 1:27:00
  Yeah, that wouldn't be bad.
• 1:27:01
  I think if I was trailering it more,
• 1:27:03
  and, because when we go to EJS or
• 1:27:06
  something like that,
• 1:27:06
  Moab, I drive all the way to Moab, so,
• 1:27:12
  that's painful, and I
• 1:27:14
  think having things buttoned up
• 1:27:16
  where you're not getting
• 1:27:17
  wind noise and everything else
• 1:27:18
  makes it just a little bit more variable.
• 1:27:19
  Absolutely.
• 1:27:20
  Well, it's just, yeah, I
• 1:27:22
  think it's the idea is nice,
• 1:27:25
  and I think the one thing I will say
• 1:27:27
  that I wish I had on
• 1:27:28
  this, and one thing I like
• 1:27:29
  about the soft top I'm
• 1:27:30
  looking at getting on there,
• 1:27:32
  is that Sunrider,
• 1:27:33
  where you get the one hand
• 1:27:34
  and you can pop it up or.
• 1:27:36
  Yes, just like Steve-O.
• 1:27:38
  Yeah, the JK, the Freedom Panels,
• 1:27:41
  they actually have this long
• 1:27:43
  screw that you've gotta undo
• 1:27:44
  that goes into the four bar two.
• 1:27:47
  Yeah, it's not a very easy
• 1:27:49
  process to disconnect all that
• 1:27:51
  and take those Freedom Panels off,
• 1:27:52
  so it's not like the JLs where
• 1:27:54
  it's just a couple of latches
• 1:27:55
  and pop them off, it's not like that.
• 1:27:57
  It's a little more of a process, so.
• 1:28:02
  The Sunrider's the only
• 1:28:03
  thing I would probably do,
• 1:28:04
  but I like mine all buttoned up.
• 1:28:05
  I feel like I'm not
• 1:28:07
  getting mud everywhere,
• 1:28:08
  I'm a little more enclosed, and I'm not,
• 1:28:12
  when you also have those really big,
• 1:28:14
  38 inch Nitto Trail
• 1:28:15
  Grappler mud tires on there,
• 1:28:16
  they like to pick up
• 1:28:17
  rocks and throw them.
• 1:28:19
  And I've always got the spirit of,
• 1:28:21
  I'm gonna be leaning my
• 1:28:22
  head out or driving along
• 1:28:23
  and I'll suddenly take a rock to the
• 1:28:25
  forehead or something.
• 1:28:26
  Right, or in the eye, and
• 1:28:27
  we need to be a big rock
• 1:28:29
  to ruin your vision.
• 1:28:31
  All right, so how about you, Glenn?
• 1:28:33
  I don't think I've asked
• 1:28:34
  you if you prefer topless
• 1:28:35
  or buttoned up or it depends.
• 1:28:40
  So most of the time I'm
• 1:28:43
  running with everything
• 1:28:44
  on there, but I do have the rampage top.
• 1:28:50
  So it's kind of like a bikini top,
• 1:28:52
  but I can take it, unzip the
• 1:28:55
  back windows and everything,
• 1:28:56
  and then the top folds
• 1:28:58
  back and has a storage bag
• 1:29:00
  underneath the top.
• 1:29:02
  So the only thing I wouldn't
• 1:29:03
  have if I went out somewhere
• 1:29:05
  would be my doors, but I
• 1:29:06
  could still button it up
• 1:29:07
  if it started to rain.
• 1:29:08
  And just a seat would get wet.
• 1:29:11
  It actually got wet the other day,
• 1:29:12
  my son forgot to tell
• 1:29:13
  me it was raining outside
• 1:29:14
  and the Jeep was out.
• 1:29:17
  And I was like, you couldn't
• 1:29:19
  have told me it was raining?
• 1:29:20
  Oh, I didn't know.
• 1:29:22
  So, but I love riding
• 1:29:25
  around without the top on.
• 1:29:27
  I have a question though.
• 1:29:29
  So everybody who runs
• 1:29:30
  where I would have doors on,
• 1:29:32
  do you still run the AC when
• 1:29:34
  you're like stopping traffic?
• 1:29:36
  Yep, absolutely.
• 1:29:39
  And you turn it on and
• 1:29:40
  then after you get out
• 1:29:41
  of the traffic, turn it off.
• 1:29:42
  If it's 105 degrees, it
• 1:29:44
  doesn't freaking matter.
• 1:29:45
  Oh, it's on all the time.
• 1:29:47
  AC is stopping about six inches
• 1:29:50
  before it actually touches you.
• 1:29:52
  Well, we need those jackets that you put
• 1:29:55
  on the windbreakers
• 1:29:56
  that attach to the vents.
• 1:29:57
  So it, you know, your
• 1:29:59
  space suit that's in your Jeep.
• 1:30:03
  But I do prefer
• 1:30:04
  riding with the doors off.
• 1:30:07
  And depending on our trail
• 1:30:09
  rides, if we go out there,
• 1:30:11
  the only problem I have
• 1:30:11
  is the property we have,
• 1:30:13
  we have to maintain it.
• 1:30:14
  So if we don't get out
• 1:30:16
  there on a regular basis,
• 1:30:17
  the prior patches are
• 1:30:20
  really painful when they,
• 1:30:23
  you know, you're driving a slide
• 1:30:25
  and then all of a sudden they slap you.
• 1:30:27
  And it's like, oh, damn it.
• 1:30:29
  I'd love to have some factory half doors
• 1:30:32
  for the Gladiator and
• 1:30:33
  have them paint matched.
• 1:30:35
  And I think that'd be a lot of fun.
• 1:30:37
  I could have the closed-in environment,
• 1:30:39
  take the tops of the half doors off
• 1:30:42
  and put them in the back.
• 1:30:43
  They're just canvas
• 1:30:43
  with some metal framing
• 1:30:46
  and take them on, put them on and off.
• 1:30:49
  I think that'd be a really easy way
• 1:30:51
  of doing mostly topless.
• 1:30:54
  And yeah.
• 1:30:54
  It opens up a lot of
• 1:30:56
  area with a half door.
• 1:30:58
  And that's one thing, like again,
• 1:31:00
  when I ordered the Forex
• 1:31:01
  E, I ordered the dual top
• 1:31:03
  and they were offering, you know,
• 1:31:05
  the half doors at that time.
• 1:31:06
  And I said, no, I'm either topless
• 1:31:09
  or doorless or doors on or all.
• 1:31:12
  I'm like, I don't like a half door,
• 1:31:14
  yet I have both full and half for the YJ.
• 1:31:16
  I was like, I don't need them.
• 1:31:18
  And now--
• 1:31:19
  Well, that's experience.
• 1:31:20
  You knew what you expect
• 1:31:22
  since you had lived it.
• 1:31:23
  Correct.
• 1:31:23
  But now I do want them.
• 1:31:25
  Now I'm like, I want
• 1:31:27
  some half-half doors.
• 1:31:27
  I can't help you, man.
• 1:31:28
  I tried to help you.
• 1:31:29
  Yeah, no, I mean, it is what it is.
• 1:31:31
  And I'm like, no, I don't need them.
• 1:31:34
  But I've got a customer,
• 1:31:35
  I've sold half-middle doors
• 1:31:38
  or Jeep and half-middle doors too.
• 1:31:40
  And I keep thinking I want to reach out
• 1:31:42
  because they've still got the Jeep.
• 1:31:44
  You know, I follow
• 1:31:44
  his son on social medias
• 1:31:47
  and they'd never even
• 1:31:49
  opened the doors out of the box.
• 1:31:51
  And they're the slate gray, but I'm like,
• 1:31:53
  I'm painted, I get the doors.
• 1:31:56
  I keep wanting to hit them
• 1:31:57
  up, you know, and buy those,
• 1:31:59
  but I just don't have
• 1:32:00
  the extra funds to do it.
• 1:32:02
  So I'm doorless or, you know, doors on.
• 1:32:06
  I prefer doorless.
• 1:32:07
  Wheeling, like John's got the same issue.
• 1:32:10
  I've got small fenders,
• 1:32:11
  I've got KBDs, you know,
• 1:32:13
  my tire stick out way beyond.
• 1:32:15
  It's one of the most
• 1:32:15
  beautiful things to watch
• 1:32:17
  when you're going straight.
• 1:32:19
  You know, the--
• 1:32:20
  The rooster tail.
• 1:32:21
  Flying right beside, yeah.
• 1:32:23
  That is just absolutely amazing to watch.
• 1:32:26
  But as soon as you turn that wheel, yeah.
• 1:32:29
  Just be--
• 1:32:30
  And you learn that.
• 1:32:31
  Reality smacks you in the face, yeah.
• 1:32:33
  Yeah.
• 1:32:35
  You're like, all
• 1:32:35
  right, I'm leaning up close
• 1:32:36
  to the steering wheel.
• 1:32:37
  I'm getting out of this,
• 1:32:38
  you know, rooster tail.
• 1:32:40
  But it's just one of the
• 1:32:40
  prettiest things to see.
• 1:32:42
  So it's misting or just
• 1:32:44
  light rain on the highway.
• 1:32:45
  If you're off road, you know, it is,
• 1:32:50
  it's a different avenue.
• 1:32:51
  It's fun.
• 1:32:51
  Yeah.
• 1:32:53
  All right, well, I'll
• 1:32:54
  just mention really quick,
• 1:32:56
  thank you guys for being here.
• 1:32:57
  We do the round table
• 1:32:58
  every Tuesday, 7.30 p.m.
• 1:33:00
  We don't always ask questions,
• 1:33:02
  but we always have the round table.
• 1:33:05
  We always have somebody here.
• 1:33:07
  So if you are watching this and you go,
• 1:33:10
  that sounds pretty fun.
• 1:33:11
  I think I wanna be a part of that.
• 1:33:12
  You're more than welcome.
• 1:33:14
  Everybody here, I was
• 1:33:15
  gonna say they're not invited,
• 1:33:16
  but they are.
• 1:33:17
  They're invited just like you.
• 1:33:18
  We don't have specific people
• 1:33:20
  that can only attend the round table.
• 1:33:23
  Everybody's invited.
• 1:33:25
  So please think about
• 1:33:27
  coming in and being part of it.
• 1:33:29
  Jeeptalkshow.com slash contact.
• 1:33:31
  Yeah, Travis.
• 1:33:33
  Hey, like, cause it's
• 1:33:34
  kind of like old school,
• 1:33:35
  a total segment jumping in the middle.
• 1:33:37
  And if people are old enough to remember
• 1:33:39
  the campfire side chat,
• 1:33:41
  I used to always jump
• 1:33:42
  on and make announcements
• 1:33:43
  about my Jeep night.
• 1:33:44
  Well, don't have Jeep night going on,
• 1:33:45
  but Ed Campbell, good friends with Matt,
• 1:33:48
  and he's been in quite a bit.
• 1:33:50
  He's got July 18th for 24 cure cancer
• 1:33:56
  research here locally
• 1:33:57
  in Charlotte, he's got a poker run
• 1:33:59
  and just wanting to throw out anybody
• 1:34:01
  that's in the Southeast area
• 1:34:02
  and wants to run to a poker run,
• 1:34:04
  run into the UARI and
• 1:34:05
  finishing up at Outlaw off road.
• 1:34:07
  Ed's got some of the best
• 1:34:09
  raffles I've seen in a long time
• 1:34:12
  and it's all raising money for cancer
• 1:34:14
  and 24 cure here in the area.
• 1:34:16
  So that's old school, you know.
• 1:34:20
  Hey, like how you start now.
• 1:34:21
  Where do people go to
• 1:34:22
  get more information?
• 1:34:24
  I would suggest Facebook will
• 1:34:26
  probably be the easiest way.
• 1:34:27
  He's got it up on Instagram, Facebook,
• 1:34:30
  and different points.
• 1:34:33
  His website and Jesus Christ,
• 1:34:35
  Facebook is fine.
• 1:34:36
  What do you search for on Facebook?
• 1:34:38
  Facebook, Carolina off road events.
• 1:34:43
  Okay.
• 1:34:44
  Is his group.
• 1:34:45
  Next time you need to be more prepared.
• 1:34:47
  You know I'm gonna ask you.
• 1:34:48
  Well, I didn't even think about it.
• 1:34:49
  You know I wanna ask you,
• 1:34:50
  where can people find out more?
• 1:34:52
  I'm not prepared, but hey,
• 1:34:54
  they just look up poker run
• 1:34:55
  and you are, they'll find it.
• 1:34:56
  There you go, excellent.
• 1:34:58
  Carolina off road events.
• 1:35:00
  When we recorded the round
• 1:35:01
  table segment for this episode,
• 1:35:04
  Travis, I told Travis, I said,
• 1:35:06
  "Travis, are you
• 1:35:07
  aware that Josh is back?"
• 1:35:10
  And he, you know, Travis,
• 1:35:12
  he's usually very lackadaisial and not,
• 1:35:16
  he literally stopped and he goes,
• 1:35:18
  "No, I didn't know that."
• 1:35:20
  What?
• 1:35:21
  Yeah, because he hasn't
• 1:35:22
  been listening to the episodes.
• 1:35:24
  Since you are not around,
• 1:35:27
  he doesn't find the
• 1:35:28
  flagship episodes as interesting.
• 1:35:31
  And he missed you.
• 1:35:33
  And I think that there's
• 1:35:34
  more than just that one person
• 1:35:37
  that has missed you.
• 1:35:38
  So we really appreciate you being back.
• 1:35:40
  I know it's very difficult
• 1:35:41
  for you to do these things.
• 1:35:42
  That's cool, that's cool.
• 1:35:43
  But if nothing else,
• 1:35:45
  we'll be doing them for the vehicle.
• 1:35:48
  Yeah, this was a rare opportunity.
• 1:35:51
  And honestly, I'll go
• 1:35:52
  ahead and pull the curtain back
• 1:35:53
  just a little bit slightly
• 1:35:54
  so you guys can have a
• 1:35:55
  little bit of understanding here.
• 1:35:56
  My mom just had
• 1:35:57
  shoulder replacement surgery
• 1:35:58
  a couple of days ago.
• 1:36:00
  And about a year ago, I
• 1:36:01
  moved her into my house
• 1:36:03
  because she got a
• 1:36:04
  terminal diagnosis of cancer,
• 1:36:06
  her fourth cancer diagnosis.
• 1:36:08
  And doesn't exactly
• 1:36:10
  have a whole lot of time
• 1:36:11
  left on this earth.
• 1:36:12
  So in addition to
• 1:36:14
  trying to make the best of it
• 1:36:15
  and making sure that
• 1:36:17
  she can get as much care
• 1:36:19
  and everything as she can and needs,
• 1:36:23
  she's having to deal with this now.
• 1:36:24
  So a complete shoulder replacement
• 1:36:26
  surgery happened on Tuesday.
• 1:36:27
  There was complications with the surgery.
• 1:36:29
  I'm taking about a week
• 1:36:31
  to 10 days off of work
• 1:36:32
  so that I can take care of her.
• 1:36:34
  She's gonna need a lot
• 1:36:35
  of direct support help
• 1:36:36
  over the next week or so.
• 1:36:39
  So with that being said,
• 1:36:40
  because I've got like actual days off,
• 1:36:44
  I mean, I'm not working either job.
• 1:36:46
  And I've got, this is like my
• 1:36:48
  second or third day in a row
• 1:36:51
  where I haven't had to work.
• 1:36:52
  And it's really weird.
• 1:36:54
  I bet you don't know what to do.
• 1:36:56
  No, I don't.
• 1:36:57
  And it's like, oh yeah,
• 1:36:58
  I've got stuff to do
• 1:36:59
  with mom and whatnot,
• 1:37:00
  but there is some
• 1:37:00
  downtime and everything.
• 1:37:02
  And so- Yeah, but it's local.
• 1:37:03
  You don't have to drive anywhere.
• 1:37:04
  And that makes a big difference.
• 1:37:06
  Exactly. It's like, well, I could
• 1:37:06
  catch up on some yard work.
• 1:37:08
  I could do some crap around the house.
• 1:37:09
  I was like, holy
• 1:37:10
  (beep)
• 1:37:10
  let's clean the studio for the first time
• 1:37:12
  in like three years.
• 1:37:13
  You mowed the grass and you went,
• 1:37:14
  oh, the neighbor painted the house.
• 1:37:17
  Seriously, I hadn't mowed
• 1:37:19
  the grass in like two weeks
• 1:37:20
  and it was like way overgrown.
• 1:37:22
  So it's just, yeah,
• 1:37:23
  the opportunity finally
• 1:37:25
  to catch up on some things as I want to.
• 1:37:29
  And so, yeah, being able to
• 1:37:30
  get back here in the studio
• 1:37:31
  for the first time in literally years.
• 1:37:33
  The equipment still works mostly.
• 1:37:35
  It mostly works.
• 1:37:37
  I know, I'm on my secondary microphone.
• 1:37:39
  So I've got to figure out what's going on
• 1:37:40
  with the primary audio chain,
• 1:37:41
  but yeah, nonetheless,
• 1:37:44
  trying to make some time here
• 1:37:45
  at least recently while I've got it
• 1:37:47
  to where we can do a few things.
• 1:37:48
  And obviously being
• 1:37:50
  able to do it from the car,
• 1:37:51
  that's opened up some
• 1:37:51
  opportunities as well.
• 1:37:53
  So you're gonna be seeing it
• 1:37:55
  and hearing a little bit
• 1:37:56
  more of me as time goes on.
• 1:37:58
  So for those who are new to the show,
• 1:38:00
  welcome to the Josh.
• 1:38:02
  And for those like Travis,
• 1:38:04
  who've been around for a very long time,
• 1:38:06
  Travis, I love you brother.
• 1:38:07
  And I hope you can
• 1:38:09
  spread the word that I'm back
• 1:38:10
  and I hope you can be
• 1:38:12
  downloading the show.
• 1:38:13
  And I'll try and get
• 1:38:14
  in on a round table here
• 1:38:15
  one of these days, see
• 1:38:16
  if I can actually pop in
• 1:38:17
  and say hi to everybody.
• 1:38:18
  So I'll just mention this.
• 1:38:21
  Josh is, didn't want to
• 1:38:22
  leave the show, but had to.
• 1:38:24
  Financial obligations are what they are.
• 1:38:27
  And so Josh was doing all this stuff,
• 1:38:31
  trying to get his mom situated,
• 1:38:33
  going to the hospital, medication,
• 1:38:35
  getting her home, all this stuff.
• 1:38:36
  And he's texting me.
• 1:38:38
  All right, so I'm doing this
• 1:38:40
  and I should be able to
• 1:38:41
  record with you here tonight.
• 1:38:44
  That was for two days.
• 1:38:46
  That was two days.
• 1:38:47
  I'll get some exploring.
• 1:38:48
  There's 27 things to do.
• 1:38:50
  And he's telling me,
• 1:38:51
  we're gonna get together.
• 1:38:52
  And ultimately we
• 1:38:53
  didn't, I wasn't surprised.
• 1:38:56
  I wouldn't even have said, let's record.
• 1:38:58
  You had too much stuff going on.
• 1:39:00
  But this is the kind of,
• 1:39:02
  this is what Josh wants to do.
• 1:39:03
  He wants to be on this show.
• 1:39:05
  It's fun.
• 1:39:06
  I mean, we have fun talking about stuff.
• 1:39:07
  We play off each other very, very well.
• 1:39:09
  And it's a lot of fun.
• 1:39:11
  And you've been very missed on this show.
• 1:39:13
  And I'm amazed that we started with
• 1:39:16
  Skype, spotty Skype.
• 1:39:18
  We'd have to let the tubes warm up
• 1:39:21
  because it would get
• 1:39:21
  so choppy, audio video.
• 1:39:23
  And now you can drive
• 1:39:24
  around in your job vehicle
• 1:39:27
  and using your phone and a
• 1:39:29
  headset, be on the show again.
• 1:39:31
  So, I mean, you're getting paid.
• 1:39:34
  You're making money
• 1:39:35
  while you're doing this.
• 1:39:37
  And so what the audio and video
• 1:39:39
  isn't like what you have right now.
• 1:39:41
  It's still you.
• 1:39:42
  It's still the content that you have.
• 1:39:45
  And we're glad to have you back, Josh.
• 1:39:47
  I think it's wonderful.
• 1:39:48
  Thanks, man.
• 1:39:48
  Didn't like it
• 1:39:49
  whenever you were gonna leave.
• 1:39:51
  Other than I was like, well,
• 1:39:53
  I will get more time to talk.
• 1:39:55
  That will be a positive thing.
• 1:39:58
  Yeah.
• 1:39:59
  Maybe not so much for
• 1:39:59
  the audience, but for me.
• 1:40:01
  (laughing)
• 1:40:03
  No, I miss the production.
• 1:40:05
  I miss the research,
• 1:40:06
  getting ready for the show.
• 1:40:07
  Of course, doing the show,
• 1:40:09
  the chemistry that we've had
• 1:40:10
  for what, God, 13 plus years.
• 1:40:12
  It's so strange.
• 1:40:13
  And it was just like, I asked,
• 1:40:15
  "Hey, did anybody wanna do a podcast?"
• 1:40:17
  And Josh goes, "Oh, okay."
• 1:40:21
  When I was actively DJing at the time,
• 1:40:23
  I had some equipment and everything.
• 1:40:25
  I know, but it was
• 1:40:25
  like, yeah, I can do it.
• 1:40:26
  There's no butt stuff, right?
• 1:40:27
  Okay, yeah, I can do it.
• 1:40:29
  (laughing)
• 1:40:29
  Yeah, fair.
• 1:40:30
  I threw my hat in the ring.
• 1:40:31
  And it worked out so
• 1:40:32
  well from the beginning.
• 1:40:33
  Oh yeah.
• 1:40:35
  It was destined to be,
• 1:40:36
  it meant to be, Tony.
• 1:40:38
  So yeah, you guys are gonna
• 1:40:39
  be hearing a lot more of me
• 1:40:41
  coming up here.
• 1:40:41
  I've got a couple segments I'll be
• 1:40:43
  looking at producing,
• 1:40:44
  doing some stuff
• 1:40:45
  behind the scenes as well.
• 1:40:47
  So yeah, we're gonna be
• 1:40:48
  hearing a little bit new flavor
• 1:40:50
  of the Jeep Talk Show
• 1:40:51
  as we roll into the rest
• 1:40:52
  of the later half of 2026.
• 1:40:54
  So looking forward to more recordings,
• 1:40:57
  looking forward to more involvement,
• 1:40:58
  and looking forward to
• 1:40:59
  possibly getting on a round table
• 1:41:01
  and getting to actually
• 1:41:03
  shoot a rag with a lot.
• 1:41:04
  You get back on a round table,
• 1:41:05
  you need to run the round table
• 1:41:07
  like you used to do the fireside chat,
• 1:41:09
  where you would ask the questions
• 1:41:11
  and then you move to the next
• 1:41:12
  person and so on and so forth.
• 1:41:14
  So we'll have to get you back there.
• 1:41:15
  I think that the round table peeps,
• 1:41:18
  the Zoom people would really enjoy that.
• 1:41:20
  It'd be a good time.
• 1:41:21
  It'd be some inside baseball too.
• 1:41:23
  I've been able to be
• 1:41:24
  a lot of inside jokes
• 1:41:25
  and catching up on
• 1:41:26
  some old times and stuff.
• 1:41:27
  So looking forward to it.
• 1:41:28
  With all the history that we have,
• 1:41:29
  there is a lot of
• 1:41:30
  inside jokes that we have
• 1:41:31
  that I feel actually
• 1:41:32
  feel bad for some people
• 1:41:33
  that are new listeners, new viewers,
• 1:41:35
  because they don't know.
• 1:41:37
  We can help them out along the way.
• 1:41:38
  We'll hold their hand.
• 1:41:39
  It's like, okay, this
• 1:41:39
  is what we meant by that.
• 1:41:41
  Exactly.
• 1:41:42
  But Jay, that's why you gotta listen
• 1:41:43
  to the whole show, people.
• 1:41:45
  Oh yeah, and you can go back
• 1:41:46
  and listen to the past episodes.
• 1:41:49
  In fact, Josh, I hadn't
• 1:41:50
  mentioned this to you.
• 1:41:51
  I am actually going back,
• 1:41:53
  I think I went back to episode 20,
• 1:41:55
  and this is before you were on the show.
• 1:41:57
  You were on this.
• 1:41:58
  Great. I went back to episode 20,
• 1:42:00
  pulled the audio into the video editor,
• 1:42:03
  put a thumbnail as the background,
• 1:42:05
  I mean, or as the video portion of it.
• 1:42:07
  So now, and then improved the audio
• 1:42:10
  and put the bleeps in for the profanity.
• 1:42:13
  And so you can literally
• 1:42:14
  go on YouTube right now
• 1:42:17
  and then go over there and quote unquote,
• 1:42:20
  watch some of the older episodes.
• 1:42:23
  And I'm gonna be doing more of them there
• 1:42:25
  so you can actually
• 1:42:26
  go back in the history.
• 1:42:27
  Over 1,400 episodes, I
• 1:42:30
  think our next episode
• 1:42:31
  is gonna be 1,450 episodes.
• 1:42:36
  And there's more, I mean, there's like,
• 1:42:38
  but wait, there's more.
• 1:42:40
  Didn't we do 52 episodes or 100 episodes?
• 1:42:44
  It was 100, 100
• 1:42:45
  episodes of Tony and Josh.
• 1:42:48
  Yeah, 100 episodes of Tony and Josh,
• 1:42:50
  I think we did like, I don't know,
• 1:42:52
  20 or 30 episodes of The Walking Dead.
• 1:42:55
  There's all the XJ talk show,
• 1:42:57
  there's all the Jeep talk show.
• 1:42:58
  I mean, man, there's a
• 1:42:59
  lot of you and me out there.
• 1:43:01
  Yeah, yeah, it really is.
• 1:43:03
  All right, was there anything else
• 1:43:04
  that you wanted to jump
• 1:43:05
  into or over or the shark?
• 1:43:07
  No, I was gonna say,
• 1:43:09
  it's good to be back.
• 1:43:11
  Looking forward to a lot
• 1:43:12
  more of the Jeep talk show
• 1:43:13
  coming up, I'm gonna
• 1:43:14
  get a lot more involved
• 1:43:16
  and try and get back
• 1:43:17
  into the role that I was
• 1:43:18
  before I left and the level of
• 1:43:20
  involvement before I left.
• 1:43:22
  So if you'd like to hear in my voice,
• 1:43:25
  well, you're gonna be
• 1:43:26
  hearing a lot more of it
• 1:43:27
  here in the near future.
• 1:43:28
  If you don't like My
• 1:43:30
  Nationly Drone, then too bad.
• 1:43:33
  See, but you can say, it's
• 1:43:35
  just a bleep and it's funny.
• 1:43:39
  All right, man. So many years
• 1:43:40
  of doing it.
• 1:43:41
  All right, well, that
• 1:43:42
  is the Jeep talk show
• 1:43:43
  for this episode, this flagship episode.
• 1:43:45
  I know it's a longer
• 1:43:46
  episode, but I think it's fun.
• 1:43:48
  Hope you enjoyed it,
• 1:43:49
  especially having Josh here
• 1:43:51
  and his studio doing that.
• 1:43:53
  You have to break out
• 1:43:54
  the green screen, Josh.
• 1:43:56
  I know, I was gonna say,
• 1:43:57
  I still have the green
• 1:43:57
  screen around here somewhere.
• 1:43:58
  I just gotta pull it out and hang it up.
• 1:44:00
  I'm doing some amazing
• 1:44:01
  things with the green screen now.
• 1:44:03
  Yeah, you are.
• 1:44:03
  Oh, yeah, that's awesome.
• 1:44:06
  Yeah, I can put a sexy
• 1:44:08
  girl dancing behind you,
• 1:44:09
  like they used to do with
• 1:44:10
  the vaudeville comedians.
• 1:44:12
  Ooh, I'll get back into
• 1:44:15
  Tales from the Strip Club
• 1:44:16
  back when I was a strip club DJ.
• 1:44:18
  What was the thing that
• 1:44:18
  I think you had on there?
• 1:44:20
  What was the mind joke?
• 1:44:21
  I mean, I had never heard
• 1:44:23
  it before, the strip minds.
• 1:44:25
  Oh, the
• 1:44:25
  (beep)
• 1:44:26
  minds.
• 1:44:26
  Yeah, the
• 1:44:27
  (beep)
• 1:44:27
  minds.
• 1:44:28
  (laughing)
• 1:44:30
  I hope the profanity
• 1:44:31
  filter grabs that one.
• 1:44:33
  Don't be a boob.
• 1:44:33
  I heard in cat that it's
• 1:44:35
  (beep)
• 1:44:35
  minds.
• 1:44:35
  Yeah.
• 1:44:37
  All right, so.
• 1:44:37
  I guess, we'll see you again soon.
• 1:44:39
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• 1:44:40
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• 1:44:44
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• 1:44:45
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• 1:44:46
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• 1:44:46
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• 1:44:50
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• 1:44:53
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• 1:44:54
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• 1:44:56
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• 1:44:58
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• 1:44:59
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• 1:45:00
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• 1:45:01
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• 1:45:02
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• 1:45:04
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• 1:45:06
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• 1:45:08
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• 1:45:11
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• 1:45:14
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• 1:45:15
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• 1:45:16
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• 1:45:18
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• 1:45:20
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• 1:45:22
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• 1:45:24
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• 1:45:26
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• 1:45:29
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• 1:45:32
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• 1:45:34
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• 1:45:35
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• 1:45:36
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• 1:45:37
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• 1:45:38
  You guys have a great day.
• 1:45:39
  Josh, thanks for being here
• 1:45:41
  and we'll see you again next week.
• 1:45:45
  You're my friend.
• 1:45:46
  You're my new friend.