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❄️ RHOSLC "Friends, Greeks, Housewives, Lend me your Ears" · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Drama, Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back in, Darlings. It's a Salt Lake City day,
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  Speaker 2: and I've got my sticker chart up. How about you
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: joining me? Is Deanna Chang to discuss this episode of
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  Speaker 2: the Housewives of Salt Lake Welcome In, Deanna, welcome in.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I mean, it was a great
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  Speaker 3: app again salt Lake City.
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  Speaker 2: Delivering, delivers hard and is put away wet.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome Yi. Yeah, we you know, it's nice to feel
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  Speaker 3: like so many times as we watch these shows, we
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  Speaker 3: get filler episodes or we get like, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 3: this was no fill. It was all content.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, these ladies are really putting it to us. And
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  Speaker 2: I was like when she put when Bronwin has that
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  Speaker 2: like reverse sticker chart up, I did find that quite hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: It's so much work. I thought, Wow, someone really when
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  Speaker 2: online they went to the FedEx you know, print center,
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  Speaker 2: they had to do a whole They did Canva then
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  Speaker 2: they uploaded. That's some work she had her people doing,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 3: And she's a girl who likes to do too much.
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  Speaker 3: You know, she's a crafty, crafty lady. Ye, she likes
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  Speaker 3: I think she did it herself, Like, I don't even
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  Speaker 3: think she outsourced that. Wow, she's an outsourcer.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe not, maybe not at this point, she will be
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  Speaker 2: because she's going to get way too busy, so she
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  Speaker 2: might start. But perhaps because she is a new housewife,
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  Speaker 2: she has been doing it all on her own this
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  Speaker 2: whole time, so.
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  Speaker 3: I I yeah, I mean, I'm sure she you know, listen,
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  Speaker 3: obviously she has people to do things, but these.
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  Speaker 2: Muzzy things like, yeah, no, Muzzy's not gonna do anything.
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  Speaker 3: Can imagine if Muzzy was in the friendship commandment chart,
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  Speaker 3: that would be a surprise.
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  Speaker 2: I was loving how they were looking at it, and
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  Speaker 2: I was wondering if Meredith was going to be like,
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  Speaker 2: do I aumatically got a mark because my last name
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  Speaker 2: is marks? Oh my? But I also like that bron
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  Speaker 2: when was like, I immediately regret this. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: why I did this. That's what that was so funny.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, because you have this idea and you
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  Speaker 2: just think it's going to be so funny and great,
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  Speaker 2: then when it's executed and you have to bring it
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  Speaker 2: and then you put it up and you really immediately
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  Speaker 2: regret it. But I think it was good. It did
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  Speaker 2: like you just have to stay the course and like
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  Speaker 2: just see how it's going to pan out. You took
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  Speaker 2: a deep breath with with Meredith, and I hear you, Oh.
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  Speaker 3: I mean took a deep breath with Meredith. I also
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  Speaker 3: just we had another moment of where you start something
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  Speaker 3: out and then like immediately regret it. And I have
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  Speaker 3: been there where I've done a walk off like Meredith
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  Speaker 3: did in the you know where you're like I'm leaving,
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  Speaker 3: I am leaving and you start to march yourself, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and get hit by a car just are like, well,
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  Speaker 3: now where am I going? I don't know? And you know,
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  Speaker 3: right hey, can I get back to where I was originally?
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  Speaker 3: I cannot? You know, do I have any resources? These
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  Speaker 3: camera people don't seem to want to help help meek out.
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  Speaker 3: They're simply on the journey with me. So yes, I
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  Speaker 3: am going to turn back around and I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: go where I initially was going. And you know, I
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  Speaker 3: just hateable to me.
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  Speaker 2: It was relatable and how many housewives of Salt Lake
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  Speaker 2: City are we going to let shoff around Greece on
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  Speaker 2: their own? First, we had Barlow just straggling around. She
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  Speaker 2: was traumatized and she was traumatized from it. And now
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  Speaker 2: we've got Meredith just thinking, oh, well, Lisa did it.
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  Speaker 2: I could certainly do it. And she is going down
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  Speaker 2: a road where pedestrians shouldn't be although it seems like
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  Speaker 2: and now we know donkeys were the main source of transportation,
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  Speaker 2: and so now we have cars that really probably shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be there, and they're coming up out of nowhere. And
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  Speaker 2: then Meredith in her denim skirt and heels, it is
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  Speaker 2: all so dangerous.
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  Speaker 3: Oh really looked good. I mean she looked twenty two
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  Speaker 3: from behind like that her body. That denim skirt is
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  Speaker 3: a fantastic Dunham skirt, the white tank. She couldn't have
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  Speaker 3: looked better. You know, if you're gonna do a move
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  Speaker 3: like that, you best look your best. And she did.
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  Speaker 2: And I was impressed that she didn't show up with like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the long Grecian gown like everyone had. She
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  Speaker 2: was like Jean skirt, white tank, and I'm passed, And
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  Speaker 2: it just kind of summed up. It was edgy and
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  Speaker 2: I liked it. It was very and I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: who would have thought that she would have had the
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  Speaker 2: premonition to pack such a skirt, you know, because like
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  Speaker 2: it really worked in the scenario, and and everyone else
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  Speaker 2: just gown from top to bottom.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Amy, we don't have to do this now, but
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  Speaker 3: I need to. As I sat down here today, I
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  Speaker 3: get with Jarma Darlings. I said to myself, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: need to at some point. It does not need to
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  Speaker 3: be now, and I want to reiterate that need to
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  Speaker 3: work through noted ok my feelings around Heather, Okay, sure, Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I just have to definitely do it. I can't, like
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  Speaker 3: I feel so many ways about all of them in
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  Speaker 3: terms of what side I'm on, Like they've got me
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  Speaker 3: spun around.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I'd love to let me just thank you
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  Speaker 2: for teeing it up. Yeah, I'm going to walk up
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  Speaker 2: to this, this this softball sitting up on this tea,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna whack it and say how many do
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  Speaker 2: you want to know how many times I said these
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  Speaker 2: women are awful in this episode? Three times? Three times?
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  Speaker 2: And you know when I said it? When Meredith cried
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  Speaker 2: on the bus and she cried again, and still nothing,
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  Speaker 2: no one relinquishing, no one backing off, and then at
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  Speaker 2: the lunch her coming up those steps crying again, no
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  Speaker 2: one backed off. They tripled down and said, and Heather
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  Speaker 2: was like.
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  Speaker 3: Join the club.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa I wish? Thank god, at least Whitney said, I'm
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  Speaker 2: sorry you missed the opportunity with your son. I think
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  Speaker 2: we all know that she's not really crying about talking
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  Speaker 2: to Brooks on Mother's Day. Okay, you guys have been
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  Speaker 2: after her and after her and after her. It's the
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  Speaker 2: morning after. You guys are having a blast looking at
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  Speaker 2: gorgeous grease, and Meredith is wounded. She has issues. We
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  Speaker 2: don't know what's going on. She's been accused of being
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  Speaker 2: a pill popper, a drunk, you know, all the horrible things.
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  Speaker 2: Thank god, Whitney actually apologized for that. I really didn't
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  Speaker 2: see that coming and I was happy about it. Whether
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  Speaker 2: she's right or wrong, it doesn't matter. At least she apologies.
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  Speaker 3: Is insane, Like, that's not how you talk to someone
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  Speaker 3: if you think they have an issue, Like you don't
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  Speaker 3: scream at them you're an alcoholic and a pill popper. Like,
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  Speaker 3: that's just an insane approach. It's never gonna yell to positive.
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  Speaker 3: What would you like her to do with that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly, Oh yeah, I'm sure she's gonna just you know,
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  Speaker 2: uh leave the scene and just check right into a
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  Speaker 2: rehab right around the corner. How convenient. And you know what,
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  Speaker 2: I understand that Whitney has is very triggered, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: all so giving her a lot of like you know,
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  Speaker 2: wiggle room in this, but no one else I'm not
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  Speaker 2: giving anyone else any wiggle room. So it's like, if
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  Speaker 2: she's going to go that hard on her, then other
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  Speaker 2: people other than Lisa Barlows should be having her back
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  Speaker 2: a little more and being softer with her. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: sorry if that sounds like it's enabling, but this is
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  Speaker 2: just so brutal to watch. This woman is so upset
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  Speaker 2: and all every single one of these people didn't have
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  Speaker 2: one ounce of compassion to come up to her at
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  Speaker 2: any point and like just give her a hug and
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  Speaker 2: see through it and say I'm sorry that this is emotional.
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  Speaker 2: I know, come here, just give me a hug. No
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  Speaker 2: one Giovanni even was so close to comforting her, and
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  Speaker 2: then he got up and walked away. This poor Meredith
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  Speaker 2: was trying to you know, muzzle up into his apron
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  Speaker 2: like so many times.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought, hey, gave her, did he give her
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  Speaker 3: a hug? I wanted her to get up and he
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  Speaker 3: was like, are you okay? Oh yeah, No.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted him to hold her. Someone needed to hold her.
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  Speaker 2: That's how I felt. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: But here's here's and this is why it's such a
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  Speaker 3: good episode. Yeah, because I'm also like, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: she had some sort of a meltdown with with uh,
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  Speaker 3: Britan what's her face Lisa on the plane? No, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: with Brittany on the plane. So she had some sort
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  Speaker 3: of a meltdown. Heather's doing the most, but I believe
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  Speaker 3: Mary period. Mary's not a liar. And she's also the
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  Speaker 3: one who is like consistently telling people just to share
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  Speaker 3: how they feel. And you know what, when I think
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  Speaker 3: about Mary, I'm like, oh, yeah, she'll tell you exactly
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  Speaker 3: how she feels, right to your face. Like she's practiced
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  Speaker 3: what she preaches. You know, there's no confusion. But like
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  Speaker 3: we're taking it like I took it lightly. And I'm like, no, wait,
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  Speaker 3: Mary's literally doing what we all with all the housewives say.
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  Speaker 2: She's walking the way you should do, walk in the.
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  Speaker 3: Wad, walking the guy, and she's making nothing but sense
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  Speaker 3: every episode.
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  Speaker 2: You know, didn't she say to Meredith we have to
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  Speaker 2: we have to go and do this or else? How
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  Speaker 2: are we going to get through this? It made it
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  Speaker 2: sound like they were in a war, and I got
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  Speaker 2: it was like, yeah, an emotional war.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, we have a lot of days on our hands,
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  Speaker 3: we have a lot of time, a lot of cameras.
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  Speaker 3: You know, what, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 2: Let's get to the finish line. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But so okay, so we have Like I do feel
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  Speaker 3: like Meredith is very in control person. She does not
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  Speaker 3: like there's nothing loose about her. But I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: probably take that back. That's what I'm saying, Like everything
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  Speaker 3: is so.
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  Speaker 2: No, You're right, she's she is completely put together, which
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  Speaker 2: is why when she's on as Jamie says, the crispy
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  Speaker 2: edge this whole time. Yeah, and I think people were
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  Speaker 2: pushing her so hard they want her to break and cry,
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  Speaker 2: but that's not the way to do it. If you
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: would have come up to her and hugged her, she
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  Speaker 2: would have cried in your arms, and maybe she actually
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  Speaker 2: would have said, I am concerned about myself and I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: You know she I don't. I'm doubtful she would have
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  Speaker 2: even admitted to anything. However, she may have said something
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  Speaker 2: very sincere and and been more in tune with her emotions.
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  Speaker 2: And when Heather's like you are not acknowledging my connection
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  Speaker 2: and my experience, I was like, oh my god, stop yelling,
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  Speaker 2: stop yelling and speak in your speeches like I love
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  Speaker 2: Heather so much and I die for her speeches. And
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: then here's where you know, I swerve too, Deanna. Don't
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  Speaker 2: take those away from me, you know, don't take any
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  Speaker 2: of it away.
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  Speaker 3: Away from me. That's what I mean. It's like I
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  Speaker 3: need it all. And also everybody is wrong. Yeah, everybody
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  Speaker 3: is right.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, you know that's fair. That is fair in
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  Speaker 2: some in.
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  Speaker 3: Some ways, but I think that we are. What the
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: girls are very frustrated about is that Meredith wants to
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  Speaker 3: control the narrative around what happened in the plane, right,
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  Speaker 3: Like she wants that she feels she's taught to Britanny
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  Speaker 3: and it should be closed door. Yeah, And nobody's ready
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  Speaker 3: to close it because it was crazy, right, And so
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: because they can't squeeze any juice out of that nut,
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: they are acting out in every direction around her, and
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: she's moping and I can't take the moping though, like
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: I can't like Amy.
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's we've been around Mopers and it's like
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: the girl we know.
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  Speaker 3: That energy suck and Greece in our beautiful place. She
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  Speaker 3: was annoying, the shadow mad. But then like Lisa, I'm
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  Speaker 3: aligned with her and everything had the way she's defending Meredith,
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, yes, yes, thank.
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  Speaker 2: God someone was defending her. And I understand that, you know,
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: when they're on the donkeys. And Mary was like, you
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  Speaker 2: have to, like Lisa, you do need to back off.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if she's going to have a relationship or
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  Speaker 2: work things out with Heather, like, you do need to
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  Speaker 2: back off. Those are wise words. Again, sure, great words,
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  Speaker 2: but Meredith is so like fight or flight. She is
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: so in fight mode. She's not going to break and
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  Speaker 2: she won't speak. She's also kind. She's kind of paralyzed
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  Speaker 2: right now, and it's till death that she is going
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  Speaker 2: to hold on to. I will not admit to doing
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  Speaker 2: anything wrong to this group of people. I Am not
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  Speaker 2: going to give them what they want me to give them.
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  Speaker 2: They can keep trying, but I'm not going to do it.
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  Speaker 2: And it's practically breaking her. And so it comes out
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  Speaker 2: with the Mother's.
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  Speaker 3: Day and that's why it's hard to have a housewife
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  Speaker 3: who's a lawyer. Because one of my friends dad, one
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: of my friend's dads, that's weird. Her husband is a lawyer,
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  Speaker 3: and we were sitting around the table. We're talking about
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: something that was going on in the office, and it
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: was juicy, like he was a oh I had someone
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: come in, but he wouldn't give me any details. I'm like,
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: I live across the country, I don't know these people,
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: but he's a lawyer and he will not give a
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  Speaker 3: freaking detail.
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  Speaker 2: Because you were going to come on this podcast and
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: give us the ex and I would have loved it. No,
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: I'm kidding. I know, I know, I get it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they can really really they know the power of
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: information and admitting things. And so I do think that
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: she is lawyer first in a lot of these areas,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, she's she's lawyer forward.
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: She's lawyer. The splash of DJ and a little bit
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: of yeah, a little dabble a caveat.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Oh, by the way, she's doing that Naughty
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: and Ice tour, you know, or DJ tour, or like,
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: there's a show in Atlanta in February, which darlings who
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: live in Atlanta, you gotta show up and check it out.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: Tell us how it is. But like when she when
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: she kind of pivots on the sprinter van, I think
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: that on the way there to the experiences, to the
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: activations and the first fight that broke out. I laughed
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: so hard when she was like something along the lines
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: of I'm sorry that I speak so intelligently and eloquently
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: for you and I handle It was something like that
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: had nothing to do with anything, and it was like,
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: what what are you talking about? It was so great.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: It made me laugh so hard, and I was like,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: you see, this projection is very funny. It brings out
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: these lines that Meredith comes up with that are really
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: quite golden. And that's why, like we're saying, we're so conflicted,
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: as we should be, because that means that this show
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: is so good that we are rooting for them, but
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: we're also you know, trying to get them to be
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: fixed at the same time, and we also don't want
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: to lose the savage equips as well. And that's a
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: tough place to be in because it leaves people kind
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: of high and dry.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's like in fifty Shades of Gray
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  Speaker 3: when he is, you know, withholding taking her to the
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  Speaker 3: brink you know, like when Meredith actually just shows up,
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: the shows up the next day, I guess it was
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: her that night and it's pool time and she comes
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: with a new energy. I was like, you know, I mean, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The release, sweet release, baby.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Sweet release. I did. I felt I was so grateful
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: for it, and I felt like we're having fun and
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: you know, you don't get that feeling without you know.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: You really don't without that build up and yeah, you know, look,
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  Speaker 2: this is this is what it is, guys, Okay, and
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  Speaker 2: it's just the truth. Now when she does show up
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  Speaker 2: at that pool, I mean, time has gone by, she
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: has been able to let out, squeeze out some kind
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: of emotions, so she's had a little bit of a release.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: She has had an apology for Whitney, which is huge,
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  Speaker 2: huge for Whitney to say that was a slippery salope
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  Speaker 2: that that, you know, I like that she didn't give
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: any excuses, yeah, by saying like, but you have a problem,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: you know, she didn't even say that. Thank God. I
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: think that her just saying okay, yeah. I wonder what
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: went through her mind to decide to do it then.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, because if she was ready to give an
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: apology at some point. I wonder what she was exactly
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: waiting for, because this entire time, people or like what
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: do you need? What do you need from? What do
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: you need from Whitney? You know, and it's like, yeah,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: she called her a pill popper. I mean Lisa said it,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: so just like apologize. And it took Whitney Meredith walking
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: off several times, crying to herself, pulling it, trying to
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  Speaker 2: pull it together, walking down the grease streets, rogue, crying
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  Speaker 2: into Giovanni's apron until she finally said, Okay, I by
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  Speaker 2: the way, I'm sorry.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Well I think that like Heather is pulling a lot
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: of strings, and you know, she's the conductor. She's the conductor,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: is she ever? Yeah, it is pretty amazing. I don't
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: think we've ever quite seen something like that before.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: She's remarkable and she is like it is here.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she did watch What Happens I Have a few
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  Speaker 3: days ago or last week or whatever. And it was
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  Speaker 3: a game that she played with Matt Rogers, I believe,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: where they were getting quizzed about Bravo Amy. It was scary.
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  Speaker 3: I actually got scared. I was like, you're everything, no,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: but everything, like it was freaky. I'm like you're a
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  Speaker 3: super fan. I'm like, you're monoc like your reality. Vontee's like,
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  Speaker 3: there's you. It's not actually safe to have you on
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  Speaker 3: this show because you are a You've gone to the
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  Speaker 3: school of Bravo.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a savant at it now.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and she is a super fan of the to
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  Speaker 3: the highest power.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Well at least she's being she's been honest about that
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: from the beginning, and she's sticking with that, thank god,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: because there are so many I mean, and but but
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I see your point, because that is like she's so intelligent,
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  Speaker 2: and so she's got the smarts and she has the knowledge.
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  Speaker 2: So now everything is like she's writing books, says, she's
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  Speaker 2: writing this story, like she's so smart, she's nine steps.
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  Speaker 3: Ahead of everybody.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, and she's so convincing, and she's got so much emotion,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: but it really does it kind of gets in the
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: way sometimes, just like she pushed she pushed Lisa to
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: the brink on that yacht when she's like and she's
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: running after her, going don't leave. How could you leave?
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: I'm your friend, our friendship, you know my experience, and
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  Speaker 4: then you know, Lisa's just like I can't even jump
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  Speaker 4: off this boat, I'll just dangle my legs until a shark,
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  Speaker 4: you know, swallows me whole.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: And then now we're in Greece and Heather is just
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  Speaker 2: at her and at her and at her and at her.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, it's that kid that just keeps poking you, mom, Mom, Mom, mom,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: and you just want to fucking go shut up, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, at one point I didn't even know it was
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  Speaker 3: like after I don't even know where it was. I
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  Speaker 3: think they were in his friend van of some kind
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  Speaker 3: and she was like, Meredith, do you want to talk
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: about what happened? And then she was like I'm like.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, she opened up. You're so right. That pissed
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: me off. That made me feel like so manipulative. Basically
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: open the doors. Here's a warm place for you to
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: come in, and then boom, it's not take away the blanket.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: It's cold, and thank you you like you fell into
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: her trap. You know, here's some cheese, come get it. Whap,
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  Speaker 2: we got you, And then what do you expect from that? Right?
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: And I do think her and Whitney at the beginning
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  Speaker 3: of the season where they're approaching Meredith and they wanted
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  Speaker 3: Meredith to turn on Lisa, and that didn't happen. And
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  Speaker 3: so then do you remember like they took hers.
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  Speaker 2: Say that again, say that?
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Oh oh right, like episode one, you know, or it
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: was early on they took her. They took her for
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: like a mafia walk and oh when they were at
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  Speaker 3: that like big open field of.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Meredith was in the heels.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they wanted her to flip on it was yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's like it feels mafia on Lisa and Meredith didn't
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  Speaker 3: do it. And so then they have this opportunity with Brittani,
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  Speaker 3: who you know, getting all over the place.
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  Speaker 5: It's so much got it, you know, Mary saying her
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  Speaker 5: square face like when she said.
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  Speaker 3: It's too much square face or dgmats like I'll never
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  Speaker 3: release that, Like I'll look at her face forever and
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: go square facing. But like it's tough.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: I think Heather was like, Okay, now we take down
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  Speaker 3: Meredith because she did this girl wrong, even though I
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  Speaker 3: don't even think she has her heart in it for Brittani,
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  Speaker 3: do you know what I mean?
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: She just she she wants to stand up for something
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  Speaker 2: because she is the person to stand up. Don't get
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  Speaker 2: it twisted. I want Heather on my side I want
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  Speaker 2: Heather representing me, you know, in court, in the court
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  Speaker 2: of public opinion, in the town square, like with signs,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: you know, I want her, yeah to be represented because
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: she makes so much sense. She always has an argument,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: She always she she's so well trained and so educated
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: in that way. But man, it's starting to hurt too
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: much at times. She needs to like fall back.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: She's got to take a load off. You know. The
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: thing that also I think makes it wrong and makes
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: it right is I do think she's getting pretty trashed
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: during all of this too. Like I think Heather is
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: throwing a few back like she was trashed on the yacht.
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  Speaker 3: I think she's so it's like it really comes beautifully
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: to her. You know.
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  Speaker 6: She can do this work and affecting and it all
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: at stage. She can do this work at any point
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: at any time. She is like a navy seal. Now
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: what remember like did you see the end promo for
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: next week? And everyone's like, she was, did you didn't
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: see it?
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, remind me it was like next time?
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: And then someone's like, non, Meredith is in the bubble bath.
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  Speaker 2: She's like, oh, non stop drinking all day and all night.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: They're talking about someone, and then Mary is really upset
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: and she's like, I can see that she's suffering. I
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: don't know who they're talking about, because it's not Meredith. Well,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say when you said she's drinking, could
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: it be Heather?
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Well, that would be interesting.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: That would be flipping, It would be flipped on its head.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm interested.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I mean it, Lisa doesn't really drink. I mean, I've
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: never seen Lisa drunk before. It's not Brittani. They wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: care as much. It's not braun. I don't think it's
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• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Heather's throwing it back, So it could be Heather. She
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: is I know she's sawing them back. Yeah. Oh, maybe
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  Speaker 3: it's her.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe it's that she's suffering because like her kids,
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  Speaker 2: That's the whole thing.
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Going to say more than that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that could have gone in a whole different direction,
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  Speaker 3: and Whitney wanted to keep the focus on Meredith, so
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: they didn't do what because if anyone was gonna like
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: make that move for story, it probably would have been Heather.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Meredith. I caught a couple minutes of her
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: and watch What Happens Live and in a clip actually
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: this morning, and Andy was asking her about her take
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: on Bronwyn and Todd and she was like, well, after
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: I feel like last season she sort of twisted what
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: I said about them on the boat, I have decided
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: to not speak on their relationship at all, Like I'm
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: not gonna weigh in, So I have a feeling, lawyer.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: I think that she's very controlled and right now she
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: knows that she's already had problems with Brittany and she's
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: not going to pile on her.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Wow, that took a lot of control.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: It did, But it could look bad for Himeredith to
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: do that, you know at this moment, and we all
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: and also, you dumb bitch, Yeah.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, why would you say that?
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, she really is not the smartest person I've seen.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: She's the We've got to talk about the trademark I
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: am so, you know, I was like last week I
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: was like a team Brittani.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Sure for the first time.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, she won, and she
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: won because of what she's doing in life right now
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: in real time and all this stuff. Yeah, and I'm
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: right back to where I was.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: You know, from the beginning.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, Babe, you come on this show with
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: your thirsty ass and then you trademark with the thirstiest
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: possible motivations to even so much as say to her,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: I got there first, and that's why you're mad? What
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: what worst? And so it is. I'm so glad that
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: that happened and that was revealed and the I thought
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: to myself, if these ladies want to make this the
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: best show ever, they will all start saying I want
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: to trademark. I'm going to trademark this, and I'm going
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: to trademark that. Oh look, guys, I'm gonna trademark this
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: after everything that Britney says or whatever. And they didn't
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: take it to that level, but boy did they slam
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: dunk with the little purse and the straw.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: And what is it that she's a ting ting ting?
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Is that it ting ding ting ting ting ting ting ting?
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: I have a fun announcement that nobody cares about ringing.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: It's not it's a secret. There's like nothing in here
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: it's a secret. I don't know. It didn't really fully
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: make sense. It didn't matter, it didn't need to make sense.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: It was a perfect delivery. And it wasn't mean because
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: like because that it became about Brittany's appearance, you know,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: it became because Angie had to. I mean, she's sort
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: of I mean, look, she was backed into a corner
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: and what's she gonna do. She's gonna the close are
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: gonna come out and she's gonna say, well, I mean,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: your hair is still really ugly, you know what I mean? You,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I mean everything that she said to I was like, okay, okay,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: you might as well just be just be mad about
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: the patent instead of just now like commenting on her appearance,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: because then we can't get we can't support you in
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: that when you start being like so crawl. But man,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: the taking that line is nuts.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: It's really crazy. It's really she is like a thirsty
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: freshman with the senior class. Like she's just yeah, it's goofy,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: I love that. Lisa. Immediately it was like, I'm asking
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: my attorney if if we can take her trademark. She's
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: just on the phone again in a sprinter van with
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: her attorney again. Yeah, yeah, that was Lisa.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: It was great. And I will say when when Angie
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: was clocking the length of her hair for her age. Now,
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: we have a lot of girls, including Angie with long hair,
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: but man, did I want to take a scissor to
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: that hair In that moment, I was like, Brittanni's four
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: inches have to come off yesterday, like it looked it
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: is weighing her down.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Well, in her confessional, she's got the cutest bob anyone's
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: ever seen. The styling is great. Yeah, so guess who
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: she keeps listening to Angie? And guess how she thanks
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: her stealing her line and patenting well, putting a trademark
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: on it.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: She's so funny, it's so plain, you know.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it almost you almost feel like this
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: is just a child. You know that she can't do
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: real damage because she's just working with an immature mind.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Ha, Yes, so true.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: No, it's true, Yeah, it's true.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: But she is. She is marketing herself. She's doing some
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: marketing things that the ogs can't even do. I will
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: say that like when she marched onto that interview. The
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: girls were on some sort of People cover or Entertainment
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Weekly or something in these like bathing suits.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the Vanity Fair when she came on in
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: a bathing suit.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, brilliant, This show off Broadway wherever it is, brilliant.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: That's why I was giving her her flowers last week.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: So she's got something cooking.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Well, but all about branding herself and putting herself out there,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: which we I don't like have a problem with that.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: But now when it if that's the best thing about her,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: that she's able to like take what she has and
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: make a good braaink out of it, that doesn't necessarily
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: make you a good housewife. So that's why I'm now
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: very conflicted because I was so happy that she actually
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: has real talent. She can sing. So she's, you know,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: doing this great show. She's poking fun of herself all
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: this other stuff, but it's all the ammunition that she's
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: picked up from other people. You know. It's like she's
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: rolling down that she's a tape ball that's rolling down
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Salt Lake City and just collecting everything and then just
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: being like, look at me and all this stuff that
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I have. It's like, but those aren't your things.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: But she just can't. I know, I know, but she
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: just kept going I'm glad that Whitney was like, why
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: don't we were in Beautiful Grace and we're talking about
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: trademarks when we move on, and you know, and of
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: course it's very much like Heather to stick up. She
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: started to stick up for Brittany, and I'm like, oh God,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: please don't, please don't stick up for her in this
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: because I almost feel like I don't think it was
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: this bad, but it was almost like who among us on.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: The Hill of Greece can claim.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: For their own their patent for trademarks on whose words are?
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: What words of whom? It's like, what, Heather, what are
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: you talking about?
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Wow?
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: So it just it can get really again, don't take
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: them away from me, because if I don't get a
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: speech from Heather, I'm gonna be upset. But man, I
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: don't want to be the recipient on the other side.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: No, because she can get you, you know, and she
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: can get you. I have a question. When Meredith was
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: like gunning for that sit down with her, it was
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: gonna be with cameras, correct that one on one she
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: was trying to.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: She never said yeah. I would imagine because she said
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: it on camera, and I would imagine she was going
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: to do it on camera. I had no I didn't
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: have any feeling that it was going to be outside
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: I'm annoyed Heather didn't take her up on that opportunity.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: I agree. I was really mad about that.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: I was like, she wants a one on one. Take
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: the one on one you can do your speech and
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: the one on one you know it will be Lord,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: can you attacking?
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Or can you?
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: It wasn't how Heather wanted to do this. So now
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: here we are.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: You know, we're at Friends Romans Countrymen. Lend to your ears.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: That's Heather in a nutshell. Yeah yeah. And Meredith just god,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: I just felt so bad for her in this episode,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: you guys. And I'm not saying that she didn't like
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: tear that fucking plane apart with her rage. Okay, that
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean that she didn't do what she did on
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: the plane, just saying in this episode it was really
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: tough to watch. I saw a broken, sad woman who
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: needed a little bit of loss.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: I think she was laying it on a little thick
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. You know, I think Meredith can
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: be a little e or you know, yeah, and it
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: annoys me.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: But mm hmm.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: You know, she is such a combination of things like ketemye,
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: like if she is doing like the ketymine and the
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: you know, we do worry about that with her because
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: she goes down certain roads where you're like, you're so unhinged.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: A little literal grease road where she shouldn't be.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: She's either yeah, she's either like flipping out on someone
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: or so measured and wrapped up, you know, which is
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: a crazy combination.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Great point, and in fact, Brittani is the one who
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: really pointed that out on the yacht. She was like,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: you can go from this yeah to that like this,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: and to me, that is that's dangerous in terms of
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: like your mental health. And also let it, let the
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: let the record show. I'm just gonna do my heather
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: impression that menopause is upon us. Okay, I'm perry meenopausal.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: I know what that feels like already. That's not fun.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: So if these gals are going if Meredith happens to
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: be going through something like that, there's a lot to
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: be said about her emotions, her physical biochemistry happening in
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: her body. You know what I mean, that maybe left
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: unchecked maybe at some point and and and speak to it.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: So let's say it out loud. Let's like listen. I mean,
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: I think every single housewife pretty much is in some
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: form of Perry or.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Like I know, I'm like isolating just Meredith. I'm like history.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: We've got nothing but Perry and Mary going on here
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: but Meno and Mary and Perry. But like it's just
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: wherein is see a Perry and Meno?
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: But it's good to bring it up because why not.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm only enabling Meredith Alltimore. Like I just
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: this is what happens when there's an underdog and there's
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: a gang up. I'm gonna have that person's back. And
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: in this situation, it was Meredith, and I'm gonna have
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: her back. Okay, Just like if that happened on the plane,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: I would have Britney's back too, which is probably why
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: everyone's so mad. We can't bounce back from that. But
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: they did have their sit down. Brittany is willing to
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: move forward.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: So and I get, like, listen, if we were in Vegas, Okay,
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: and I know, but I'm because actually I have to
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: kind of put it through a filter like that, because
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: sometimes I'm watching a gang up and I'm like, i'd
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: be okay, but I have to put it through a
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: real life filter.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's do it.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: I'm with you and Emily backstage, and you were flipping
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: out on Emily.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Let's you know, you're gonna tell the real story about me.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: I'm just skidd.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: You're you're you're going off on something she did on stage.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Let's say, you know, okay, you know, and I'm watching it,
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: I'm like, holy shit, you know, Amy's losing her mind,
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: like and then you and Emily have a sit down
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: and fix it. But I'm like, no, I'm uncomfortable with
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: what just happens. Like you had mixed apologize to me too,
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: or we need to at least sit down and walk
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: through what happened, you know what I mean, Like cause
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: I feel comfortable with you right now, Like I feel
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: like what I saw was unhinged, which you can see
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: an angel, but like, but I'm just saying, like, sometimes
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: I have to put it through that filter and go like, no,
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: I kind of see where Whitney, you know, Whitney is
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: saying like, no, this is the thing we're all pissed
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: about actually, and we need to We haven't purshed through
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: it at all. You just put the wall up and
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: told us it's over.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, I am hearing this. I am. I am receiving this,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: and I'm seeing it in a different way actually, and
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: now I wonder if okay, so as I'm like in
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: real time thinking about this when Heather keeps yelling it's
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: my experience, you know, it's like, that's what you're saying.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Meredith has done nothing to acknowledge now that Heather saw anything.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: But also this one thing that Heather keeps saying that
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: she's mad about is you said to me that you
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: would not be friends with me if I continue to
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: be friends with Britney. Right, That's the thing that Heather
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: is hung up on. And merediths like, I didn't say that.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: She's like, yes, you did.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: So She's like, did you want to see her say that?
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: No? No, because it was when they were exiting the plane.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: Oh oh okay, because okay, okay, okay, got it.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: So Heather has pissed probably about the two things, one
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: which is like, you're not apologizing to all of us
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: for putting us all in that situation and acknowledging that
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: that we're a group and that we were all experiencing
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: that he traumatizes all. But also specifically, you're now calling
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: me a liar that I didn't think that that it
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: wasn't as bad as I'm saying it was. But on
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: top of that, you're actually saying that you never said
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: to me you wouldn't be my friend if I continue
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: to be friends with Brittany. You're saying that I made
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: that up. So maybe maybe Heather has a little bit
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: more of a bone to pick with Meredith, and I'm
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: willing to give her, but I think at some point,
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: and I think that you'll probably agree with this, which
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: is like stop making it a stage production, and you know,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: boil it. I love this nage, but boil it down
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: and just for a second, you know, pull her aside.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: That's all. They even't even had one on one. They haven't, right,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: it's weird.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: And Meredith's not going to admit to having a bottle
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: of champagne and forgetting that she said that to clearly Heather.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: And it's like the person who's had I think the
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: most sensitive approach to Meredith, but direct is Mary she
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: I think she when she sat down with her, she
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: was navigating that road in a real and nuanced way
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: and concerned that Meredith doesn't seem to recall some of it.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: And I think that that's a real piece of it,
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: is that Meredith, I think was.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: On something, looped up on something allegedly. I mean absolutely absolutely.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: And I also think that the way that Mary handled
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: it is the way that most people would handle it
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: if they weren't on a reality show. And that's what
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: I love about Mary, because she's the same way on
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: the reality show is she probably would be as she
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: is in real life, right and so so. But with Heather,
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Heather is fighting so hard for her to for her
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: own self to be seen and to be heard and
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: to make sure that she has been she can be
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: told she's right and she's okay when it really isn't.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna switch back on it, okay, because at
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: some point Heather needs to recognize, like Meredith is not
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: going to receive this, She's not in a place to
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: receive any of this. And it's not Heather's job to
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: like force this down her throat because Meredith's in a
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: bad space. She's in a really bad space right now.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: If she got to that point on the airplane and
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: that something that horrible happened, then she's not going to
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: see you. She's not going to acknowledge what happened because
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: it's like a done deal. So if anything, I mean,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Mary is the she's our north star. She can handle
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: it perfectly. You say, this is what I this is
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: what I experienced. I'm really concerned for you that you're
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: saying you don't remember that, because this is what I
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: know to happen. But I love you, and at this
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: point I'm going to just back off because you're not
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: going to be able to meet me halfway, and so
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: I'm going to move on, you know instead, how there's
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: just keeps hitting a dinhorse and that's I guess where
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: we land.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: Right And the piece of the what runs underneath all
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: of this is green slime.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Just like in Ghostbusters, is that.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Lisa and Meredith are the sorority cool girls and Heather
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: and Whitney are not. And Heather feels like she's not.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: She is constantly wondering and jockeying for cool girls position
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: with those two. That is some historical high school shit. Whoa,
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: And that's literally I feel that in almost all the interactions,
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: and Heather has gone up up in terms of like
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: the show, everything everything, So she she feels that, but
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: it's not steady because at the end of the day,
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: she isn't one of the cool girls.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Oh wow ouch.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: And I don't even the cool girls like I. But
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: I say that like I because I could see the
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: two of them as two little mean sorority girls behind
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Brittani going like they give big sorority head sister energy.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Whitney and Whitney and Heather you mean no, I mean
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Lisa Maryall. Okay, I thought you meant that they could
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: also do it too, because they I feel like they
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: do it too.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: They do it too, but in some ways it's like
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: an effort, like it's all an effort to, you know,
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: actually be in with the cool girls, and that is
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: what they're constantly figuring out. How close they are to cool.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Wow wow, I know that secret lives of Mormon wives.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: But the music is appropriate. Howther kind of overcompensates, you know,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: for a lot, which is why she's so good with
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: everything that she does. She's a perfectionist and she's an
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: overachiever and she wants to do the best she possibly can,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: which is why like her whole background with being a Mormon,
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: like she was the epitome of being a Mormon, like
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: the perfect Mormon, which is like now she's not a Mormon,
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: but like she's kind of like trying to become the
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: perfect is it? Housewife?
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: I think so interesting? I think so.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: I think so. I'm not sure. I don't know the
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: perfect something. Maybe it's just like always right. Maybe it's
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: just somebody who wants to always be right. But at
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: the same time, she makes a lot of mistakes, like
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: her approach to all this is not like I don't
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: agree with it.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: No, and I think she's bumping people like I think
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: there's also like last season, Bronwyn took her off of
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: major vacations, like she literally Bronwin was like, Hi, I
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: knew you go back there, like it was bowing wild.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: That was a weird season. Heather was like, you know what,
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: it was, correct me if I'm wrong. Part of it
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: was like here comes Bronwin top to your housewife. Immediately
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: she did, she checked her out of a.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: Trip, took her off more than one, and.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: Heather she kind of didn't want to force her way
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: in or else that would look like she was trying
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: too hard, right, so she needed to sort of fall
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: back because she didn't want to be one up to
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: by her right, So she was like, well then no,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: I said no, I say no, I'm not. So then
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: she's off in the distance and like she's really sitting
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: one out, which was crazy.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: And was it the season before that was screenshots proof timeline, Yes, okay,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: so that she was on an all time high. So
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: from going from that, I also think that Heather was
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: kind of like, I am a little bit tired. I'm
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: writing my second book, I have other things going on.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: So I also think she didn't really mind being second wrong,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of benching it during that time. I
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: feel like she didn't mind as much because like she
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: had such a huge hit she had to go back
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: to the studio.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: Also, no one was like vouching for her, so she
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: was having hard times with Whitney at that point. I
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: believe I mistaken, so like no one was like, we
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: need Heather here no matter what, you know. Everyone was like,
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: well catch you, let me catch you, Like we're going
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: with the new girl. You know. So she also, I
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: do think has a lot right to oh kind of reclaim.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: No wonder, that does make sense. She's kind of on one.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: She's been on since we started.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: She is on one.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: She's making up for lost time.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and like her and Broadwin are fine. Like I
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: don't even think about them as having any issues.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: You know, I think we all knew that they would
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: be great friends, that they would get along. Yeah, how
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: about when we all found out what a ten two
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: and a ten to one two is.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: I'm still lost, quite frankly.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the ten means is that just means.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: I think it means, like, you know, when you're like
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: ten four, you know, copy that right, So I think
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: that's what it means, ten three, ten four. I thought
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: it was funny. I liked that they got around that
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: with the numbers, and I thought that was cy. The pool.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: The pool was such a highlight when we all like
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: finally got together and Meredith came out with her little
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: sailor suit outfit swimsuit, and then the swim race and
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: then and Meredith was like I just gave up and
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: wanted to cheat, and like her laugh was just echoing
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: through the white last heard buildings of Greece, and like,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, thank god, and then she needed it.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: She did, Yeah, we all did.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Angie stepping into her little outfit was adorable and super cute.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: Oh it was real nice.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: And then you know, Bron went talking about how she's
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: been with women, and then Brittani says that she's kissed
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: three hundred.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: And sixty seven. Man, are we I have no mess? Amy,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: don't even listen to her. I don't even believe it.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Thank you for giving me some advice. Don't even listen
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: to her.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: Don't even listen. She's like, yeah, of her little titties
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: and we saw it on the boat. Like her game
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: is so bad.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, she's out of practice.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but she's also like, you have to adjust your
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: game to your age with love, and like I think
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: that her game is like is like middle school.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: It is like her mentality, like her emotional boy these
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: I hope no, but none of these housewives listen to
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: this episode because we have a lot of way for them.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: It's not not for housewives. I'm gonna have to put
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: the disclaimer because yeah, she's she's emotionally immature.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: Speaking of which I mean I don't know if you care.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: I think you know all of them. So, but I
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: was at Sarah Klana's holiday party. I've known her since
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: we're in our twenties. We have mutual friends. And Crystal
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: was there, and well, so Doug Doug ben in. Yes,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: he he was like, I saw you on Amy's show
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: in Vegas. I'm like, oh my gosh, hi, So we
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: were chatting for a minute. He's a doll and he
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: loves you. And that group was there, so like.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: All of like Jeff, it was like a Jeff Lewis.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: It was yeah, yes, yes, so so Wing can I
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: can I share? Like so Wing clops Crystal first, and
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, you know what I mean,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: Like I love her, you know, and I got excited.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: I also had a few and I was like not
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: Meredith like that style. But you know, I was having
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: a nice holiday time. So and I see her talking
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: to some guy, go Wing or we I think we
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: need to approach. And I see her and then I go,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know when the right time is. And then
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: Doug starts talking to her. I go, well, I'm going
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: to use my new found friendship and I marched right up.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: I said Doug, I am so sorry to use my friendship,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: our new friendship like this, but I'm gonna meet Crystal,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: you know. And and he was like, oh, this is Deanna.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: Do you know Amy Phillips? She and she Cristal was like, yeah,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: I know Amy, and she's like, oh they worked together.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: And so no, no, no, it wasn't okay. One hundred
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: percent yeah, yeah, one hundred thousand percent. She was like, yeah,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: I know Amy Phillips. Okay, she one hundred percent knew you. Yes,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: So I figured you knew that. But it was fun
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: and so and then Wing not Wing doesn't drink, but
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: he gave her He's like, you represented Asians very well.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: And she and he was like, and we are getting
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: picked off of every single franchise and it's not okay.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: And so they had a little compisation about that. Wow.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: And then and then I go, let's mark like met
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: Rob lovely. Then I said, I said to Wink, we're
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: watching away. And we walked back and I said, we're
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: not going to hang around. We did what we came
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: to do.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Ye.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: We marched back to our little table and I said
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: that was good. And then I saw her look over
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: at us from a distance, and I said, yeah, we can't.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: We went in and we said we left some nice
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: droppings and we bounced. Yeah.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: Really nice, well done.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: It was great. It was fun.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: I thought, was Cynthia Bailey there chance? No, okay, because
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: they have they have a podcast together.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: I watched their podcast. You know, I watch YouTube, but
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: I'm working at my montages, so I watched them a lot.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: And she's very tall, Yeah, very tall. Her and Cynthia
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: must really make an entrance.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, that is so cool.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: It was that. It was really fun to be recognized
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: from Cabaret me. When I walked in that shackle all
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: came to the show apparently, so they they literally were
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: like we recognized. I saw them look up and be
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: like they were Cabaret they saw they knew me from
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: the Cabaret Me.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad you got to meet Doug. He is
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: one of my most favorite people in the world.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: That okay, yeah, he's he seemed very nice. That was it.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: But it was fun.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Oh that's so cool. How what a great holiday party.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: It was fun, It really was.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: And I know who Sarah is. She's a great comedian
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: and writer, right.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: She really is. Yeah, she started she did Chelsea Lately.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: She was a restler.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: That's that's right, that's right.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and she does Jeff Show.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, right, that's great. Yeah, she's funny, funny, funny.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: Nice girl. Arkansas, Arkansas friends. I know her with my
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: friend Liz, that's that right. Yes, they went to college together,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: so that's how I know.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, I see Arkaw speaking of the college thing, or
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: rather like a background of school. It was really interesting
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: to hear Angie talk about Lisa when they were in
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: high school.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: Wait what did she say?
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: I don't remember right now, I know I know, oh,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: a boyfriend, like who they kiss first or something?
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: Maybe that was what it was.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the an Angie, Heather and Angie because because Heather
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: was like I kissed a hot guy or whatever?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, because someone said like, Heather, do you remember,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: She's like do I remember? She's like like I wrote
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: a whole chapter on it.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: I don't remember what it was, but what a refreshing
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: and wild reminder that they've known each other for so
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: long and that was really cool.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: That is where the cool girl stuff comes in, you
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Yeah, because that stuff that high
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: school hierarchy.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Shaking that Yeah, it isn't embedded, it's six but.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: Them, you don't leave the town. That's serious.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: So are you saying that, like, so Lisa, let me
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: just get it straight. Are we saying that it's true
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: that Lisa and Angie and Heather and maybe Whitney all
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: grew up in the same area and knew each other
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: all growing up or was that like just in college
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: or was.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: It the college for for so, I think Lisa and Heather,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: Lisa and Heather, okay, and I think, well, I don't
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: know where Meredith comes in, but I don't even know
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: if she like lived there. Yeah, but I mean I
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: think it's Lisa. But then but then Lisa and Meredith
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: go together, so right, you know what I mean?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, huh yeah.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: So but but Lisa and I will say, Lisa and
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: Heather have that locked in hierarchy, cool girl stuff, and
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: so does Whitney. Whitney has that with Lisa one hundred percent. Yeah,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: you said, I don't know the ins and outs of
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: like when they all started grade school together, but I
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: do know they have that, And I know Angie and
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: had their absolutely were in class together in high school
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: for sure, because we've seen. I think we've seen the
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: yeah this year.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Books, which makes it even funnier that they argue so
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: much about stuff. You know, it's because they've got such
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: a long history together. Yeah, you think they get along
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: a little better. I don't know they've really been through it,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: my god. Yeah, uh yeah, Well what a mother's day
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: huh mm hmm, Okay, I think I think we like, oh,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: we didn't talk about the donkeys and how funny Mary
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: was like throughout the episode because she was like, I
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: don't know, I don't think this donkey. I don't like
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: this donkey thing. It's like, I'm on it. She just
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: like and she's felt bad, and I get it. I
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: would feel bad too. I've written on a donkey before.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: When you've like gone to one of those islands and
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: it's just it, you know, you do feel bad. It
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: feels weird.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't look big enough, you know, And that's right.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: And they're bejeweled, and.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they looked healthy. They looked like a healthy flock
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: of I don't know what a group of donkeys are, yeah,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: but we'll call him a horde, a healthy horde of donkeys.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: And I that was nice to see but also wild
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: to know, like that Angie's dad when he was ten
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: would go down seventeen miles on a donkey and get
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: groceries and come back up seventeen miles. That sounds like
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: an exaggeration, you know how dads are, like I you
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: know that through the snow, but like seventeen miles on
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: a donkey, been down, that's I don't have to fact
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: check that with him.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well listen, she's so Greek forward, like she's dedicated
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: to it. And it was stunning, Like I've got to
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: get to Grease. Have you ever been to Grease?
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: No, I have to now go Like it was epic
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: for job, like everything, the food of the socc little shops,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: the restaurants, the yeah, I mean yeah, and we're still there.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: I want to be there.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: I don't want to so I know. So well we'll
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: pick up next week, you know, because they're still going
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: to be eng Yeah, thank god, Deanna Chang. Can you
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: tell us about your sub stack?
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's how to be Littled dot substack dot com.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: You know, it was a rough week for all of
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: us out there in the world. So I did a
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: little post yesterday about the ten ten things trending for
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: holiday via Google Trends. So that was really fun and
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: I learned some things, you know, learned about some uh
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: some things that the kids are up to, and also
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: some fun punches and things like that, I don't know, punch,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know, like holiday punches. Yeah, holiday nails that
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: are trending right now, which are so cute. The the
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: gen zs and the millennials are into making right now.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: So they're making ornaments, They're making you know, all the
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: holiday things.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: Wait are they are they just discovering the word making.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: They're like, oh, we can make stuff making, like you
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: really into like making?
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: Make but that's how they call It's like the it's
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: a making culture.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: You know that? What this is why you need to
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: be on How to Be Less Old? Are you kidding
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: me right now? I'm not Wow, Wow, I did not
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: expect you to say that. I did not know that. Okay,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: And I'm a subscriber and I haven't read it yet, so.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: Don't get there when you get there. And then we
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: also have our podcast How to Be Less Old on
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: Apple that you can just download for free.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: Aw thanks to all right, well everybody, thank you so
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: much for listen thing and we're going to be back tomorrow.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: I hope you have a fabulous Wednesday.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: Great there were you.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: Bye.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: It's the holidays, Yeah.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: Happy holidays.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: You know you don't know where you are.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know where I'm going. Please, I'm going to
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: be making though. It's going to be making holiday.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: You'll make all right. Passssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss