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- 0:00Speaker 1: So I want you to imagine pulling off the perfect
- 0:02Speaker 1: crime in the 21st century. Like, what would that actually take?
- 0:06Speaker 2: Oh, man. I mean, you'd need zero witnesses.
- 0:08Speaker 1: Exactly. No witnesses. And you'd need like an airtight alibi
- 0:11Speaker 1: placing you thousands of miles away.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Right. And a motive that is just completely hidden from everyone. Yeah.
- 0:17Speaker 1: But here's the thing. We're going to see today that
- 0:20Speaker 1: in the modern era, the physical evidence, well, it might
- 0:24Speaker 1: actually be totally secondary to your digital footprint. Like, you
- 0:28Speaker 1: can wear all the gloves you want. But if you
- 0:30Speaker 1: have a smartphone in your pocket, you're leaving a trail.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Yeah. We constantly see this cognitive dissonance in modern crime.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Like a perpetrator will spend literally months obsessing over the
- 0:42Speaker 2: physical mechanics of a murderer, you know, wiping down doorknobs,
- 0:46Speaker 2: paying in cash.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Right. The analog stuff.
- 0:48Speaker 2: Exactly. The analog stuff. While remaining completely oblivious to the
- 0:52Speaker 2: massive digital exhaust they are pumping out every single second.
- 0:56Speaker 2: I mean, they treat their smartphone like it's just an
- 0:58Speaker 2: inert piece of plastic rather than a highly advanced radio
- 1:01Speaker 2: transmitter that's constantly logging where it is in the world.
- 1:05Speaker 1: It's wild. So welcome to today's deep dive. We are
- 1:08Speaker 1: unpacking a really chilling true crime investigation based on a
- 1:12Speaker 1: Law and Crime Network documentary transcript.
- 1:15Speaker 2: And this one is just, it's a masterclass in how
- 1:17Speaker 2: not to get away with murder.
- 1:19Speaker 1: It really is. Our mission today is to explore how
- 1:23Speaker 1: a meticulously planned cross-country murder unraveled entirely through cell towers,
- 1:30Speaker 1: automated license plate readers, and honestly, a killer's own staggering hubris.
- 1:35Speaker 2: The contrast between the careful analog planning and the spectacular
- 1:39Speaker 2: digital failure is just, it's what makes this whole investigation
- 1:42Speaker 2: so compelling to look at.
- 1:43Speaker 1: For sure. So to get into the mechanics of how
- 1:45Speaker 1: he was caught, we have to establish the victim and
- 1:48Speaker 1: the setup. We're looking at Asina Valentini. She's this hardworking
- 1:51Speaker 1: immigrant originally from Romania who lived in Hungary before coming
- 1:54Speaker 1: to the U.S.
- 1:54Speaker 2: Right, and she's living in this quiet coastal town of
- 1:57Speaker 2: Grover Beach, California.
- 1:59Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's a registered nurse working at the California
- 2:01Speaker 1: Men's Colony, which is a state prison. By all accounts
- 2:05Speaker 1: from her friends and neighbors, she's just vibrant, deeply hardworking,
- 2:10Speaker 1: and sacrificed everything for her family.
- 2:12Speaker 2: Okay, let's unpack this. We have to start with the
- 2:14Speaker 2: welfare check on the morning of October 25th, 2018.
- 2:18Speaker 1: Right. So just before noon, the Grover Beach police get
- 2:21Speaker 1: a call requesting a welfare check. The caller is an
- 2:24Speaker 1: officer from the prison where Athena works.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Because she missed her shift.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. She was scheduled for a 7.30 a.m. shift
- 2:31Speaker 1: and she just never arrived. And for someone working in
- 2:34Speaker 1: a correctional facility, I mean, missing a shift without a
- 2:37Speaker 1: phone call triggers an immediate institutional response.
- 2:40Speaker 2: I'd imagine the protocols are super strict for that kind
- 2:42Speaker 2: of job.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Oh, incredibly rigid. The risk factors inherent to working in
- 2:47Speaker 1: a prison are so high, so a missing employee is
- 2:50Speaker 1: basically always treated as a potential crisis right out of
- 2:53Speaker 1: the gate.
- 2:53Speaker 2: So the prison sends two peace officers in an unmarked
- 2:56Speaker 2: vehicle down to her apartment on South 9th Street. They
- 2:59Speaker 2: also request a local police unit to meet them there.
- 3:02Speaker 1: And.
- 3:03Speaker 2: Honestly, before they even knock on the door, the physical
- 3:06Speaker 2: environment is already signaling that something is just fundamentally wrong.
- 3:10Speaker 1: Yeah, the neighbors immediately point out all these weird anomalies
- 3:14Speaker 1: in Athena's established routine.
- 3:16Speaker 2: Establishing a baseline is like the very first step in
- 3:19Speaker 2: any investigation. And Athena's baseline involved this 10-year-old beagle that
- 3:25Speaker 2: she just absolutely adored. Right. Every single morning when she
- 3:29Speaker 2: left for her shift, She would put the dog out
- 3:31Speaker 2: on this enclosed front patio and she'd secure the little
- 3:34Speaker 2: gate with a padlock. But on this morning, the padlock
- 3:37Speaker 2: is missing entirely. The gate is unlatched and the patio
- 3:41Speaker 2: is completely empty. No dog.
- 3:43Speaker 1: And the neighbor also notices her car, right? Because Athena
- 3:47Speaker 1: typically parked inside his garage overnight, but she'd move the
- 3:50Speaker 1: car out into the driveway during the day.
- 3:51Speaker 2: Yeah, but this morning her car is still locked inside
- 3:54Speaker 2: the garage, so her entire routine is just fractured. You
- 3:57Speaker 2: have a missing padlock, an absent dog, a hidden car,
- 4:00Speaker 2: and a highly reliable woman who has vanished from a
- 4:03Speaker 2: very secure job.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Which gives the police a pretty solid reason to go
- 4:06Speaker 1: inside without waiting for a warrant.
- 4:08Speaker 2: Exactly. Those factors combined elevate the situation from a standard
- 4:13Speaker 2: wellness check to what we call exigent circumstances. I mean,
- 4:16Speaker 2: under the Fourth Amendment, police generally need a warrant to
- 4:19Speaker 2: enter a private residence.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Right, but if they think someone is dying.
- 4:24Speaker 2: Exactly. Exigent circumstances provide an exception... when there is a
- 4:28Speaker 2: reasonable belief that someone inside is in immediate danger or
- 4:31Speaker 2: needs emergency aid. The preservation of life always supersedes the
- 4:36Speaker 2: warrant requirement in that specific moment.
- 4:38Speaker 1: So they test the front door and it's unlocked. They
- 4:41Speaker 1: announce themselves. They step inside and the transcript notes that
- 4:44Speaker 1: the smell of blood is just immediate.
- 4:46Speaker 2: It's horrific. They find Athena in her upstairs bedroom and
- 4:49Speaker 2: the violence of the scene is extreme. She's lying in
- 4:53Speaker 2: this prone, semi-fetal position on the floor surrounded by just
- 4:57Speaker 2: a massive amount of blood.
- 4:58Speaker 1: And the initial assessment shows severe sharp force trauma, like
- 5:02Speaker 1: brutal slash wounds to her throat and upper extremities.
- 5:05Speaker 2: The coroner later determined that the attack likely initiated from
- 5:08Speaker 2: behind while she was on the bed and then culminated
- 5:11Speaker 2: on the floor. I mean, the sheer volume of blood
- 5:14Speaker 2: makes it definitively clear that.
- 5:17Speaker 1: This is a homicide. But the physical evidence in the
- 5:20Speaker 1: room introduces this massive psychological contradiction. And this is the
- 5:24Speaker 1: part that really got me. Scattered everywhere around her body,
- 5:28Speaker 1: literally in the blood, are pills. Yeah. Just handfuls of
- 5:32Speaker 1: medication spread across the floor. And, I mean, if a
- 5:35Speaker 1: victim has suffered catastrophic sharp force trauma to the neck,
- 5:38Speaker 1: like her throat is slashed, scattering pills makes zero logical sense.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Why are there pills everywhere? Was this some clumsy attempt
- 5:46Speaker 1: at staging a suicide scene by someone who was just panicking?
- 5:49Speaker 2: What's fascinating here is how staging a crime scene often
- 5:53Speaker 2: completely exposes the perpetrator's lack of forensic sophistication.
- 5:57Speaker 1: Well, that makes sense.
- 5:57Speaker 2: Staging is essentially a physical manifestation of a lie. The
- 6:01Speaker 2: killer is trying to construct a narrative for the police.
- 6:04Speaker 2: In this case, trying to suggest an overdose or a suicide.
- 6:07Speaker 2: But under the intense physiological stress of committing a murder,
- 6:10Speaker 2: your cognitive bandwidth narrows significantly.
- 6:13Speaker 1: Right. They panic and just throw out a bunch of
- 6:14Speaker 1: fake clues without thinking about how they actually interact with reality.
- 6:18Speaker 2: Exactly. They fall back on these rudimentary, almost TV show
- 6:21Speaker 2: tropes of what a death scene should look like. They think, well,
- 6:25Speaker 2: suicide involves pills, so they scatter pills.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Well, totally ignoring the massive slash wounds.
- 6:30Speaker 2: Right. They fail to recognize that the primary cause of death,
- 6:34Speaker 2: which is a brutally severed airway, Completely obliterates that secondary
- 6:39Speaker 2: narrative they were trying to sell. You cannot physically inflict
- 6:42Speaker 2: those specific injuries upon yourself after an overdose.
- 6:45Speaker 1: It's so sloppy. It just highlights this profound disconnect between
- 6:49Speaker 1: the violence they just committed and the story they want
- 6:51Speaker 1: to project.
- 6:52Speaker 2: And the wider crime scene tightens that profile even further
- 6:56Speaker 2: because there is no forced entry. The house isn't ransacked.
- 7:00Speaker 2: Athena's purse, her valuables. They're completely untouched.
- 7:04Speaker 1: Which immediately rules out a random burglary gone wrong.
- 7:06Speaker 2: And then there is the missing beagle. This was a
- 7:08Speaker 2: protective 10-year-old dog that neighbors said was deeply suspicious of strangers.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Yeah, if a random intruder breaks in and brutally murders
- 7:16Speaker 1: the owner, a dog like that is going to mark, bite,
- 7:19Speaker 1: or cower under a bed. It definitely doesn't quietly leave
- 7:22Speaker 1: the premises with a blood-covered attacker.
- 7:25Speaker 2: The dog's absence strongly suggests a pre-existing relationship. The animal
- 7:29Speaker 2: felt comfortable enough with the perpetrator to either be leashed
- 7:33Speaker 2: and led away or to simply just follow them out
- 7:35Speaker 2: the door.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Wow. So that instantly shrinks the suspect pool from literally
- 7:39Speaker 1: anyone in Grover Beach to someone intimately familiar with the
- 7:42Speaker 1: household dynamics and the dog.
- 7:44Speaker 2: And an observant HOA president and a next-door neighbor provide
- 7:48Speaker 2: the next critical data point. The neighbor recalls that on
- 7:51Speaker 2: October 23rd, which is two days before the body was found,
- 7:55Speaker 2: she heard Athena speaking Hungarian inside her home.
- 7:58Speaker 1: Right, because Athena was originally from Romania and lived in Hungary.
- 8:01Speaker 2: Yeah, and the neighbor assumed Athena was speaking to her son, Levante,
- 8:05Speaker 2: either on the phone or in person because he is
- 8:07Speaker 2: basically the only person she communicates with in that specific language.
- 8:11Speaker 1: The introduction of a rare language into the timeline gives
- 8:15Speaker 1: investigators this really specific auditory anchor. But honestly, the police
- 8:20Speaker 1: couldn't narrow their focus to the family right away because
- 8:24Speaker 1: the victim is a nurse at a state prison.
- 8:26Speaker 2: Right.
- 8:26Speaker 1: That's an inherently dangerous environment. So the most obvious variable
- 8:30Speaker 1: is her proximity to convicted felons.
- 8:34Speaker 2: Standard investigative procedure dictates that you have to exhaust the
- 8:37Speaker 2: most statistically probable threat first. So they interview Cheryl Mankey,
- 8:42Speaker 2: who is a fellow nurse and a close friend of Athena's.
- 8:45Speaker 1: And she is absolutely distraught.
- 8:46Speaker 2: Yeah. And Cheryl immediately hypothesizes that an inmate is responsible,
- 8:51Speaker 2: which is a completely logical deduction for a civilian to make,
- 8:54Speaker 2: given the brutality of the crime and where Athena worked.
- 8:57Speaker 1: Her friends describe her as this powerhouse. Like Shelby Holmes,
- 9:00Speaker 1: another friend, talks about how much she loved to dance,
- 9:02Speaker 1: her high energy, her massive personality. The idea that someone
- 9:06Speaker 1: from her workplace held a grudge and followed her home,
- 9:08Speaker 1: I mean, it seems totally plausible to them.
- 9:11Speaker 2: But when investigators pull the prison incident reports, look for threats,
- 9:15Speaker 2: search for paroled inmates in the area, I mean, the
- 9:18Speaker 2: well is completely dry.
- 9:19Speaker 1: Zero leads.
- 9:20Speaker 2: None. The prison angle yields absolutely no actionable intelligence. So
- 9:25Speaker 2: investigators pizit to establishing a definitive timeline of her last
- 9:29Speaker 2: known movements.
- 9:30Speaker 1: And they find a receipt, right?
- 9:31Speaker 2: Yeah. They locate a receipt on her dining room table
- 9:34Speaker 2: from a local UPS store, timestamped the afternoon of October 24th.
- 9:38Speaker 2: They go get the surveillance footage from that business, and
- 9:41Speaker 2: there she is. She's alone, conducting business, showing zero signs
- 9:45Speaker 2: of distress.
- 9:45Speaker 1: So that footage basically locks in the timeline. She was
- 9:49Speaker 1: alive on the afternoon of the 24th. And with the
- 9:52Speaker 1: prison theory discarded, the focus naturally shifts back to her
- 9:55Speaker 1: only immediate family in the United States, her 26-year-old son,
- 9:59Speaker 1: Levante Lazar.
- 10:00Speaker 2: And looking at Levante requires a look at how Athena
- 10:03Speaker 2: ended up in California in the first place, because her
- 10:05Speaker 2: backstory is really rooted in immense sacrifice.
- 10:08Speaker 1: Yeah, in the 1990s, she was living in Hungary with
- 10:10Speaker 1: her husband and young son. But in 1995, her husband
- 10:13Speaker 1: suffered a massive fatal heart attack in the middle of
- 10:15Speaker 1: the night.
- 10:16Speaker 2: And at that time, The legal framework surrounding custody in
- 10:19Speaker 2: that specific region heavily favored keeping the child within the
- 10:22Speaker 2: paternal family structure.
- 10:24Speaker 1: So she was absolutely terrified that the local courts were
- 10:27Speaker 1: going to grant custody of Lavande to her in-laws. So
- 10:30Speaker 1: in 1997, she just packs up her life, flees the
- 10:33Speaker 1: country with her son and immigrates to Los Angeles to
- 10:36Speaker 1: start completely over.
- 10:37Speaker 2: She navigates a new legal system, learns the language, earns
- 10:40Speaker 2: all her nursing credentials and actually builds real wealth. She
- 10:44Speaker 2: buys properties, sets up a trust. Literally everything she did
- 10:47Speaker 2: was designed to build this fortress of stability around this boy.
- 10:50Speaker 1: Which just frames the subsequent interaction with law enforcement in
- 10:55Speaker 1: a deeply, deeply disturbing light. Because Levante is now 26.
- 10:58Speaker 1: He's a graduate student living 2,000 miles away in Bloomington, Indiana.
- 11:03Speaker 2: Say Grover Beach detectives reach out to the Bloomington Police
- 11:06Speaker 2: Department and request that they conduct an in-person death notification
- 11:10Speaker 2: at his apartment.
- 11:11Speaker 1: And the body cam footage of this encounter, it is chilling.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Levante shares the apartment with his girlfriend, Hannah, who is
- 11:18Speaker 1: a medical student. The Indiana officer knocks. Levante opens the
- 11:22Speaker 1: door and the officer delivers the news. He says the
- 11:26Speaker 1: DA's office in California called and his mother has passed away.
- 11:29Speaker 2: Now, a standard physiological response to sudden traumatic news about
- 11:33Speaker 2: a parent involves an immediate loss of physical control. Your
- 11:37Speaker 2: nervous system just floods with adrenaline and cortisol. Right.
- 11:40Speaker 1: Like knees buckling, crying.
- 11:42Speaker 2: Exactly. The breathing rate skyrockets. There's often immediate denial or weeping.
- 11:47Speaker 2: It is a visceral, involuntary physical reaction.
- 11:50Speaker 1: But Levante just gives the officer this completely blank stare.
- 11:54Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 11:54Speaker 1: Like he literally says, OK, what happened? And then he
- 11:57Speaker 1: actually thanks the officer for making the, quote, house call. Yeah.
- 12:01Speaker 1: I mean, it's delivered with the emotional weight of someone
- 12:03Speaker 1: confirming a dental appointment. It's like watching a terrible actor
- 12:06Speaker 1: reading lines off a cue card. How does a son
- 12:09Speaker 1: who claims to have a tight bond with his mother
- 12:11Speaker 1: react so clinically to her sudden death?
- 12:13Speaker 2: Well, you have to distinguish between clinical shock and psychological control.
- 12:18Speaker 2: Because in genuine shock, the brain is struggling to process
- 12:21Speaker 2: the information, but there is still underlying distress.
- 12:25Speaker 1: Right.
- 12:25Speaker 2: What we see in Levante's footage is a complete absence
- 12:28Speaker 2: of distress. In behavioral analysis, investigators look for what they
- 12:32Speaker 2: call leakage.
- 12:33Speaker 1: Leakage.
- 12:34Speaker 2: Yeah, leakage is when a suspect is trying so fiercely
- 12:37Speaker 2: to control their outward presentation that their true underlying emotional
- 12:41Speaker 2: state bleeds through in inappropriate ways.
- 12:44Speaker 1: So his attempt to look super calm and collected just
- 12:46Speaker 1: makes him look completely psychopathic.
- 12:49Speaker 2: Exactly. And he even volunteers an alibi before the officer
- 12:53Speaker 2: even asks a single question. He casually mentions he hasn't
- 12:56Speaker 2: seen his mother since January. He states he tried to
- 12:59Speaker 2: call her a few days prior. found her voicemail full,
- 13:02Speaker 2: and just assumed her phone was broken.
- 13:04Speaker 1: Just casually laying the groundwork.
- 13:05Speaker 2: Right. He is proactively building a narrative of distance and
- 13:09Speaker 2: technological failure to explain away his lack of recent contact.
- 13:13Speaker 1: And then, literally minutes after the Indiana officer leaves, Levante
- 13:18Speaker 1: calls Detective Casey Neal back in California. And Detective Neal
- 13:22Speaker 1: observes the exact same void of emotion on the phone.
- 13:25Speaker 2: Levante just wants to discuss logistics.
- 13:28Speaker 1: Yeah, logistics. And he reiterates that he's firmly planted in
- 13:31Speaker 1: the Midwest. He totally believes he is steering the investigation
- 13:35Speaker 1: away from himself with this phone call.
- 13:37Speaker 2: But while he is managing this whole performance over the phone,
- 13:40Speaker 2: the digital forensics team in California is already dismantling his timeline.
- 13:45Speaker 2: The investigation shifts from the physical crime scene to the
- 13:48Speaker 2: invisible digital infrastructure surrounding it.
- 13:50Speaker 1: And here's where it gets really interesting. Because modern tech
- 13:54Speaker 1: completely dismantles traditional alibis. So the HOA president we mentioned
- 13:58Speaker 1: earlier had noted that the complex's surveillance camera was motion activated.
- 14:02Speaker 2: Right, which is crucial because it only records when the
- 14:05Speaker 2: sensor detects physical movement, massively reducing the amount of footage
- 14:08Speaker 2: investigators have to review. So they pulled the logs for
- 14:11Speaker 2: the night of October 24th.
- 14:13Speaker 1: And at 11.00 p.m., the sensor triggers. The camera captures
- 14:18Speaker 1: a figure walking northbound on the sidewalk along 9th Street,
- 14:21Speaker 1: heading away from Athena's apartment. And trotting happily alongside this figure...
- 14:26Speaker 1: completely off-leash, is Athena's missing beagle.
- 14:30Speaker 2: This visual confirms the early theory that the dog trusted
- 14:33Speaker 2: the suspect. So detectives map the likely walking route and
- 14:36Speaker 2: begin pulling camera footage from surrounding businesses along that path.
- 14:40Speaker 1: In three blocks north, there's a 24-hour surveillance system at
- 14:43Speaker 1: the Exploration Discovery Center. It catches the exact same figure
- 14:46Speaker 1: and the dog passing by.
- 14:48Speaker 2: Investigative momentum relies on extrapolating data backwards and forwards. If
- 14:52Speaker 2: you have the exit on camera, you naturally look for
- 14:54Speaker 2: the arrival. So they rewind that Discovery Center footage to
- 14:58Speaker 2: earlier that same evening.
- 14:59Speaker 1: And at 6.30 p.m., the camera catches a figure matching
- 15:02Speaker 1: the same physical description walking toward Athena's house. And crucially,
- 15:07Speaker 1: this person has a cell phone pressed to their ear.
- 15:10Speaker 2: That specific visual detail, the active phone call at 6.30 p.m.,
- 15:13Speaker 2: provides a direct bridge between the physical suspect and the
- 15:16Speaker 2: digital realm. Detectives immediately subpoena Athena's call detail records for
- 15:21Speaker 2: that specific day.
- 15:22Speaker 1: They scan her call log. And amidst all her normal contacts,
- 15:26Speaker 1: this new number appears repeatedly. It's a 513 area code,
- 15:30Speaker 1: originating from Ohio. She had literally never communicated with this
- 15:35Speaker 1: number before October 24th.
- 15:37Speaker 2: And the train stamps of those calls align perfectly with
- 15:40Speaker 2: the 6.30 p.m. footage of the suspect walking toward her home.
- 15:44Speaker 1: It's a phone trap. They execute a search warrant for
- 15:46Speaker 1: the subscriber information on that 513 number, serving it to
- 15:50Speaker 1: the carrier, which is Cricket Wireless.
- 15:52Speaker 2: And the return reveals it is a prepaid device, commonly
- 15:55Speaker 2: referred to as a burner phone.
- 15:57Speaker 1: The subscriber is listed as Jacob Keith with a P.O.
- 16:00Speaker 1: box in Cincinnati. Both are completely fabricated.
- 16:03Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 16:03Speaker 1: But the fake name on the account is irrelevant, right?
- 16:06Speaker 1: Because the carrier possesses the underlying network data.
- 16:08Speaker 2: Exactly. If we connect this to the bigger picture, the
- 16:11Speaker 2: concept of a burner phone is a relic of the
- 16:14Speaker 2: analog era that criminals mistakenly believe applies to modern cellular networks.
- 16:18Speaker 1: Like to watch too much The Wire.
- 16:20Speaker 2: Right. You can pay cash and use a fake name,
- 16:22Speaker 2: but the moment you power that device on, it begins
- 16:25Speaker 2: negotiating with local cell towers. It continuously broadcasts its unique identifier,
- 16:31Speaker 2: its IMEI and MSI numbers to the network just to
- 16:35Speaker 2: route potential calls.
- 16:36Speaker 1: And the carrier logs all of that.
- 16:38Speaker 2: The carrier logs every single one of those handshakes, storing
- 16:41Speaker 2: the latitude, longitude, and azimuth of the specific tower sector
- 16:45Speaker 2: the phone communicated with.
- 16:47Speaker 1: So Cricket Wireless hands over a spreadsheet containing every location
- 16:51Speaker 1: that burner phone pinged. And the very first line of
- 16:54Speaker 1: that spreadsheet basically destroys Levante's entire narrative.
- 16:58Speaker 2: Because the phone was activated in Bloomington, Indiana.
- 17:00Speaker 1: Less than a mile from his apartment.
- 17:02Speaker 2: Detectives contact the Best Buy in Bloomington that's located within
- 17:05Speaker 2: that initial cell sector. They review the store's surveillance footage
- 17:08Speaker 2: and boom, there is Levante Lazar physically purchasing the device
- 17:12Speaker 2: at the register.
- 17:13Speaker 1: The cashier even recalled him specifically asking for a burner phone.
- 17:17Speaker 1: I mean, if you buy a burner phone to hide
- 17:19Speaker 1: your identity, but you leave it on while driving across
- 17:22Speaker 1: the country with your actual cell phone, they're basically traveling
- 17:25Speaker 1: together in a digital sidecar.
- 17:27Speaker 2: This introduces the concept of co-location data. Think of it
- 17:31Speaker 2: like two people walking through a pitch black forest, and
- 17:34Speaker 2: each is carrying a flashlight with a distinct color.
- 17:37Speaker 1: Right.
- 17:38Speaker 2: Even if you can't see the people, if you watch
- 17:41Speaker 2: a red beam and a blue beam moving in perfect
- 17:43Speaker 2: unison through the trees for miles... you know those two
- 17:46Speaker 2: individuals are traveling together.
- 17:48Speaker 1: And the detectives don't just have the purchase. They have
- 17:51Speaker 1: the entire road trip. The spreadsheet maps the burner phone
- 17:54Speaker 1: leaving Indiana, shutting down temporarily, powering back up in Oklahoma City,
- 17:59Speaker 1: and then pinging this breadcrumb trail of towers straight down
- 18:02Speaker 1: Interstate 40 all the way into California, arriving in Groover
- 18:05Speaker 1: Beach on the afternoon of October 24th.
- 18:08Speaker 2: And when the suspect is caught on camera leaving the
- 18:10Speaker 2: apartment at 1100 p.m., The burner phone pings a tower
- 18:14Speaker 2: indicating it is leaving Grover Beach.
- 18:16Speaker 1: And Athena's actual cell phone, which the killer obviously stole,
- 18:20Speaker 1: pings the exact same tower. The two phones travel in
- 18:24Speaker 1: lockstep eastward. The final ping from Athena's device registers at 11.004 p.m.
- 18:29Speaker 1: before it's presumably destroyed or tossed out the window. So
- 18:33Speaker 1: the cell data proves the device made the journey, but
- 18:35Speaker 1: detectives still need to put Levanto in the physical vehicle
- 18:38Speaker 1: making that drive. And this is accomplished through ALPRs, which
- 18:42Speaker 1: are automated license plate readers.
- 18:44Speaker 2: Which are everywhere now. You probably drive past a dozen
- 18:46Speaker 2: of these on your commute without even noticing. They look
- 18:49Speaker 2: like small infrared traffic cameras mounted on overpasses, toll booths,
- 18:53Speaker 2: and even police cruisers. But they aren't checking your speed.
- 18:57Speaker 1: No, they utilize optical character recognition software to photograph every
- 19:01Speaker 1: single license plate that passes. They instantly log the alphanumeric characters,
- 19:05Speaker 1: the time, and the precise GPS coordinates into a massive
- 19:09Speaker 1: searchable database. It operates continuously, capturing millions of data points
- 19:13Speaker 1: every single day.
- 19:14Speaker 2: During the initial death notification, the Indiana officer noted that
- 19:17Speaker 2: Levante drove a white 2013 Jeep Patriot. So Detective Neal
- 19:21Speaker 2: queries that plate in the national ALPR database. And the
- 19:25Speaker 2: system returns multiple high resolution images of Levante's specific Jeep,
- 19:30Speaker 2: which is easily identifiable by a unique aftermarket sticker on
- 19:33Speaker 2: the back window. traveling through Texas and Arizona on the
- 19:36Speaker 2: exact dates that align with the burner phone's cellular trail.
- 19:41Speaker 1: So before Detective Neal even boards a plane to Indiana,
- 19:44Speaker 1: he has constructed an inescapable trap. He has the best
- 19:47Speaker 1: buy purchase video, the cross-country cell tower mapping, the co-location
- 19:51Speaker 1: of the victim's phone, the ALPR photographs of the suspect's vehicle,
- 19:56Speaker 1: and the localized surveillance footage in Grover Beach.
- 19:59Speaker 2: Detective Neal flies to Indiana unannounced. He calls Levante from
- 20:02Speaker 2: the ground, and Levante, just displaying incredible arrogance... willingly drives
- 20:07Speaker 2: down to the police station for an interview.
- 20:08Speaker 1: While a secondary team simultaneously executes a search warrant on
- 20:11Speaker 1: his apartment.
- 20:12Speaker 2: And the interrogation that follows is an absolute masterclass in
- 20:15Speaker 2: psychological warfare.
- 20:17Speaker 1: It really is. I mean, the dynamic in that interrogation
- 20:19Speaker 1: room is totally defined by Levante's pathological need to establish dominance.
- 20:25Speaker 1: When Neil reads him his Miranda rights, which, by the way,
- 20:27Speaker 1: is a universal indicator that you are the primary target
- 20:30Speaker 1: of a criminal investigation. Levante just dismisses the severity of it.
- 20:34Speaker 2: He immediately launches into a protracted recitation of his resume.
- 20:38Speaker 1: Yeah, he spends several minutes detailing his academic history. He
- 20:41Speaker 1: talks about attending Berkeley, transferring to UC Davis, studying linguistics
- 20:46Speaker 1: and history.
- 20:47Speaker 2: He brags about securing grants and teaching courses to inmates
- 20:50Speaker 2: at a women's prison in Indiana.
- 20:52Speaker 1: He is desperately trying to establish a hierarchy where he
- 20:55Speaker 1: is the intellectual superior in the room.
- 20:57Speaker 2: He is attempting to control the frame. He wants Neal
- 21:00Speaker 2: to view him as a peer, not a suspect. He
- 21:03Speaker 2: details a three-, five-, seven-, and ten-year plan. He claims
- 21:07Speaker 2: to be the sophisticated retail investor, a day trader dealing
- 21:11Speaker 2: in complex financial instruments like options and futures.
- 21:14Speaker 1: And Detective Neal does something brilliant here. He doesn't interrupt him.
- 21:18Speaker 1: He just lets Levante build this massive, intricate facade. He
- 21:22Speaker 1: lets him lock himself into a rigid timeline of lies
- 21:25Speaker 1: before introducing a single piece of evidence.
- 21:28Speaker 2: The strategy is to close off every possible avenue of retreat.
- 21:32Speaker 2: So Neal casually mentions that he pulled some preliminary phone records,
- 21:35Speaker 2: and it looks like Levante's personal phone pinged in Springfield, Missouri,
- 21:38Speaker 2: on October 23rd.
- 21:40Speaker 1: And Levante aggressively denies it. He claims he drove to
- 21:43Speaker 1: Mount Vernon, Illinois, but hasn't been to Missouri in months.
- 21:46Speaker 1: He commits fully to the lie.
- 21:48Speaker 2: Neal pushes slightly harder. He suggests the phone data shows
- 21:51Speaker 2: Levante in Texas on the 25th.
- 21:53Speaker 1: Levante scoffs and states definitively the last time he was
- 21:57Speaker 1: in Texas was in 2015.
- 21:59Speaker 2: Neil is systematically forcing Levante to explicitly state on camera
- 22:04Speaker 2: that he never left the Midwest.
- 22:06Speaker 1: Once Levante is thoroughly boxed in, Neil brings out the sledgehammer.
- 22:09Speaker 1: He pulls out the map of the burner phone starting
- 22:11Speaker 1: from Cincinnati. He explains that the 513 number and Levante's
- 22:15Speaker 1: personal phone travel side by side all the way to
- 22:18Speaker 1: Athena's house.
- 22:19Speaker 2: The physical reaction to the collapse of a fabricated reality
- 22:22Speaker 2: is profound. Levante begins to stammer. He falls back on
- 22:26Speaker 2: absolute denial, just promising he wasn't in California.
- 22:29Speaker 1: So Neil drops the ALPR data. He explains that there
- 22:32Speaker 1: are literal photographs of Levante's specific Jeep crossing state lines.
- 22:36Speaker 1: When Levante still denies it, Neil brings up the local
- 22:39Speaker 1: surveillance cameras in Grover Beach.
- 22:42Speaker 2: Neil stops asking if Levante was there and transitions to
- 22:44Speaker 2: asking why he was there. He says, I know you
- 22:47Speaker 2: went to the house. Help me understand why you did
- 22:49Speaker 2: this to your mom.
- 22:50Speaker 1: Now, a standard suspect confronted with this mountain of empirical
- 22:54Speaker 1: data will typically invoke their right to counsel or just
- 22:57Speaker 1: shut down completely.
- 22:58Speaker 2: But Levante's narcissism traps him. He cannot accept that he
- 23:02Speaker 2: has been outsmarted by a local detective. He feels compelled
- 23:05Speaker 2: to invent a new alternative explanation that incorporates all the
- 23:09Speaker 2: undeniable evidence, but still exonerates him of the actual murder.
- 23:12Speaker 1: So he completely abandons the I never left Indiana defense
- 23:16Speaker 1: and pivots to what has to be the most absurd
- 23:19Speaker 1: alibi in the history of true crime. He looks at
- 23:21Speaker 1: Detective Neal and admits he drove to Los Angeles, but
- 23:25Speaker 1: he claims he drove there to buy medical marijuana.
- 23:27Speaker 2: We really need to analyze the sheer logistical impossibility of
- 23:31Speaker 2: the narrative he attempts to sell in that room.
- 23:33Speaker 1: I mean, let's just do the math on this. He
- 23:35Speaker 1: is claiming he drove from Bloomington, Indiana to Los Angeles, California.
- 23:39Speaker 1: That is roughly a 2,000 mile trip one way. He
- 23:42Speaker 1: claims he drove straight through 40 hours each way, sleeping
- 23:46Speaker 1: in the driver's seat at rest stops. And he did
- 23:49Speaker 1: this to purchase $ 120 worth of marijuana.
- 23:52Speaker 2: He specifies the amount as 15 grams.
- 23:55Speaker 1: It's insane.
- 23:56Speaker 2: He constructs a motive based on hiding a drug habit
- 23:59Speaker 2: from his medical student girlfriend. He argues that he undertook
- 24:02Speaker 2: a grueling 80-hour, 4,000-mile round trip for a negligible amount
- 24:06Speaker 2: of cannabis simply to maintain secrecy.
- 24:09Speaker 1: You are looking a homicide detective in the eye and
- 24:12Speaker 1: claiming that you, a Berkeley-educated financial whiz with a 10-year plan,
- 24:17Speaker 1: spent more money on gas than the actual street value
- 24:20Speaker 1: of the drugs you bought.
- 24:22Speaker 2: It's insulting. I mean, at what point does a lie
- 24:24Speaker 2: become so heavy it just crushes the liar?
- 24:26Speaker 1: He attempts to frame himself as a minor federal offender
- 24:30Speaker 1: to escape the murder charge. He points out that crossing
- 24:33Speaker 1: state lines with marijuana is a federal crime, implying that
- 24:36Speaker 1: this is the reason he was initially lying. He is
- 24:39Speaker 1: offering up a lesser manufactured crime to explain his presence
- 24:42Speaker 1: on the West Coast.
- 24:44Speaker 2: Neil asks him directly if he went to his mother's house.
- 24:46Speaker 2: Levante claims he drove up to Grover Beach to surprise her,
- 24:49Speaker 2: but when he drove by, her car wasn't in the driveway.
- 24:52Speaker 2: So instead of calling her or waiting, he claims he
- 24:55Speaker 2: just drove to an In-N-Out burger, slept in his Jeep,
- 24:58Speaker 2: and then drove 30 hours back to Indiana.
- 25:01Speaker 1: Detective Neal recognizes the absurdity, obviously, but he continues to
- 25:04Speaker 1: apply interrogation techniques designed to lower the psychological barrier to confession.
- 25:09Speaker 1: He offers Levante what behavioral analysts call themes or outs.
- 25:13Speaker 1: These are basically face-saving rationalizations. Neal asks if maybe things
- 25:18Speaker 1: just got out of hand, like if there was a struggle.
- 25:21Speaker 1: He says, people get frustrated. People go from zero to 100.
- 25:24Speaker 1: He is giving Levante the opportunity to claim it was
- 25:27Speaker 1: an accident or a crime of passion, which feels less
- 25:30Speaker 1: monstrous than a premeditated execution.
- 25:33Speaker 2: But Levante's ego refuses the lifeline. Admitting to a loss
- 25:37Speaker 2: of control contradicts his self-image as a calculated mastermind. He
- 25:41Speaker 2: claims he isn't a cold-blooded killer and insists nothing happened
- 25:45Speaker 2: because he never went inside.
- 25:47Speaker 1: And when Neil offers to show him the raw data
- 25:49Speaker 1: extraction from his own devices... Levante tries to deflect by
- 25:53Speaker 1: accusing the detective of employing TV tricks. He attempts to
- 25:56Speaker 1: act completely unfazed, basically just trying to outweigh the interrogation.
- 26:01Speaker 2: Which brings us to the core mystery the investigators had
- 26:03Speaker 2: to solve. If this guy is so incredibly intelligent, and
- 26:06Speaker 2: if he has this robust financial plan, what on earth
- 26:09Speaker 2: is the motive for driving across the country to slaughter
- 26:12Speaker 2: the mother who gave up everything for him?
- 26:14Speaker 1: Right. During the interview, Levante insists his finances are impeccable.
- 26:19Speaker 1: He details receiving a $ 130, 000 annuity from his mother's deceased boyfriend,
- 26:24Speaker 1: claiming he used the funds to wipe out his debt,
- 26:26Speaker 1: open an IRA, and establish himself as an independent day trader.
- 26:30Speaker 2: He paints a picture of absolute self-sufficiency. But Deputy District
- 26:34Speaker 2: Attorney Lindsey Briner starts digging into the actual bank records,
- 26:38Speaker 2: and the reality is catastrophic. Levante isn't a financial genius.
- 26:42Speaker 2: He is hemorrhaging money at a terrifying rate.
- 26:45Speaker 1: Because faking it till you make it turn deadly here.
- 26:48Speaker 2: Trading options and futures carries immense leverage and risk. The
- 26:51Speaker 2: records show he was down $ 49, 000 in the stock market.
- 26:54Speaker 2: His capital was literally evaporating. Furthermore, he was carrying nearly $ 70, 000
- 26:59Speaker 2: in student loan debt. And to compound the crisis, he
- 27:03Speaker 2: owed the IRS $ 12, 000 in back taxes.
- 27:05Speaker 1: He told the police he thought his stipends were tax-free.
- 27:08Speaker 1: He just completely ignored his tax liability. The wall was
- 27:10Speaker 1: closing in fast, his accounts were draining, the IRS was circling,
- 27:14Speaker 1: and he had built this massive lie for his girlfriend, Hannah.
- 27:16Speaker 2: This raises an important question about the psychology of the motive.
- 27:20Speaker 2: He needed Hannah to believe he was a successful, independent investor.
- 27:24Speaker 2: If his total financial collapse was exposed, the persona he
- 27:27Speaker 2: constructed for her would shatter. He required a massive, immediate
- 27:31Speaker 2: infusion of cash to maintain the illusion.
- 27:33Speaker 1: Of his life. And the investigators discovered that Athena had
- 27:36Speaker 1: set up a trust. Levante was the sole heir to
- 27:40Speaker 1: her estate, her properties in California, and her life insurance.
- 27:44Speaker 1: He stood to inherit hundreds of thousands of dollars upon
- 27:46Speaker 1: her death.
- 27:47Speaker 2: To a severe narcissist facing a crisis, other people cease
- 27:51Speaker 2: to be human beings. They become utilities. Athena was no
- 27:54Speaker 2: longer his mother. She was simply the administrative hurdle standing
- 27:57Speaker 2: between him and the capital required to fund his ego.
- 28:01Speaker 1: When Neil brings up the trust in the interrogation room,
- 28:03Speaker 1: Levante plays completely dumb. He claims he had no idea
- 28:07Speaker 1: he was the beneficiary. But the premeditation tells a different story.
- 28:11Speaker 1: He bought the burner phone. packed his Jeep with water
- 28:13Speaker 1: bottles to minimize stops, and drove across the country with
- 28:17Speaker 1: singular intent.
- 28:18Speaker 2: But despite all of that analog preparation, it is the
- 28:21Speaker 2: digital evidence recovered during the search warrant of his apartment
- 28:24Speaker 2: that provides the absolute, undeniable proof of his guilt.
- 28:28Speaker 1: So what does this all mean? How does a supposedly
- 28:31Speaker 1: brilliant guy get taken down by a piece of hardware
- 28:34Speaker 1: in his own living room? While Levante is trying to
- 28:36Speaker 1: outsmart Neil at the station... The secondary team seizes his electronics,
- 28:41Speaker 1: including an older iPad.
- 28:43Speaker 2: The distinction with this specific iPad is that it was
- 28:45Speaker 2: a Wi-Fi-only device. It lacked a cellular modem. It couldn't
- 28:49Speaker 2: connect to a 4G or LTE network while driving down
- 28:52Speaker 2: the highway. To access the Internet, it had to physically
- 28:56Speaker 2: authenticate with a local wireless router, logging its unique MAC
- 29:00Speaker 2: address in the process.
- 29:01Speaker 1: The forensic extraction of that iPad reveals a connection log
- 29:04Speaker 1: that destroys any remaining shadow of a doubt. On the
- 29:07Speaker 1: morning of October 25th, the day after the murder, while
- 29:10Speaker 1: Levante is driving back to Indiana, the iPad connects to
- 29:13Speaker 1: a public Wi-Fi network.
- 29:14Speaker 2: And the router it authenticates with is located inside a
- 29:17Speaker 2: McDonald's in Winslow, Arizona.
- 29:19Speaker 1: Sitting in that parking lot, utilizing that free Wi-Fi, between 11.00 a.m.
- 29:23Speaker 1: and 11.10 a.m., Levante opens a browser and searches Google
- 29:27Speaker 1: for the phrase, Levante Lazar suspect Grover Beach. And then
- 29:32Speaker 1: he types, murder Grover Beach on 9th Street.
- 29:35Speaker 2: The temporal relationship here is the ultimate smoking gun. He
- 29:38Speaker 2: executes these searches and just after 11.00 a.m. However, the
- 29:42Speaker 2: welfare check wasn't initiated by the prison until almost noon.
- 29:46Speaker 1: Right.
- 29:46Speaker 2: The police did not breach the apartment and discover Athena's
- 29:49Speaker 2: body until 11.50 a.m.
- 29:51Speaker 1: He is frantically searching for news coverage of a murder
- 29:54Speaker 1: 40 minutes before law enforcement even knows a crime has occurred.
- 29:58Speaker 1: I mean, it's Shakespearean tragedy meets Black Mirror. The only
- 30:00Speaker 1: way you can search for a murder before the body
- 30:02Speaker 1: is found is if you put the body there.
- 30:04Speaker 2: It demonstrates the obsessive compulsion of the killer to monitor
- 30:07Speaker 2: their own handiwork. He needed to know if his staged
- 30:11Speaker 2: crime scene was working, if he had gotten away with it.
- 30:13Speaker 2: And that psychological weakness was logged by a commercial router
- 30:17Speaker 2: in Arizona. A suspect can try to manipulate a detective
- 30:21Speaker 2: in an interrogation room with convoluted stories about buying marijuana,
- 30:25Speaker 2: but you cannot cross-examine a router log. The data is
- 30:28Speaker 2: entirely impartial.
- 30:30Speaker 1: You just can't outsmart a router log. And the forensics
- 30:33Speaker 1: team also uncovers the final piece of his digital manipulation.
- 30:37Speaker 1: Levante claimed he had received text messages from his mother
- 30:40Speaker 1: late on the night of the 25th, trying to use
- 30:43Speaker 1: them as proof she was alive while he was driving
- 30:45Speaker 1: through the desert.
- 30:46Speaker 2: The digital extraction proves those messages were fabricated. He stole
- 30:50Speaker 2: Athena's phone after killing her. While driving eastward, he used
- 30:53Speaker 2: her device to send text messages to his own phone.
- 30:56Speaker 2: But cellular architecture logs the exact origin point of every
- 31:00Speaker 2: SMS message.
- 31:01Speaker 1: Because of course it does.
- 31:03Speaker 2: The co-location data proved conclusively that both the sender's phone
- 31:06Speaker 2: and the receiver's phone were pinging the exact same tower
- 31:09Speaker 2: on the interstate at the exact moment the messages were sent.
- 31:12Speaker 1: He was literally texting himself from the passenger seat of
- 31:15Speaker 1: his Jeep to build a fake alibi. Detective Neal later
- 31:19Speaker 1: described him as a remorseless psychopath. And looking at the
- 31:23Speaker 1: totality of the evidence, it's impossible to argue. One year
- 31:26Speaker 1: after the murder, a jury convicted Levente Lazar of first-degree murder,
- 31:31Speaker 1: and he was sentenced to life in prison without the
- 31:33Speaker 1: possibility of parole.
- 31:34Speaker 2: The legal system achieved its designated outcome, securing a conviction
- 31:38Speaker 2: based on an overwhelming matrix of digital evidence. But the
- 31:42Speaker 2: judicial process does not mend the profound emotional destruction left
- 31:46Speaker 2: in the wake of the crime.
- 31:47Speaker 1: The tragedy of Athena Valentino's death is defined by the
- 31:51Speaker 1: loose ends that will never be tied. The most immediate
- 31:54Speaker 1: mystery is the fear of her dog. That 10-year-old beagle
- 31:57Speaker 1: that left the apartment with Levante was never recovered. What
- 32:00Speaker 1: happened on that long drive back to Indiana remains a
- 32:03Speaker 1: secret only he knows.
- 32:04Speaker 2: And because Athena sacrificed her entire life in Europe to
- 32:07Speaker 2: bring Levante to the United States, he was her sole
- 32:10Speaker 2: family member in this country. When he killed her, he
- 32:12Speaker 2: eradicated her entire familial infrastructure. There was no one left
- 32:16Speaker 2: to arrange a funeral. There was no burial.
- 32:18Speaker 1: Her friend Shelby spoke about the agonizing lack of closure,
- 32:21Speaker 1: having no physical place to go and mourn. Cheryl Manke,
- 32:25Speaker 1: her fellow nurse, admitted that she saves the last voicemail
- 32:28Speaker 1: Athena ever left her on her phone, playing it just
- 32:32Speaker 1: so she can hear her friend's voice and remember her laugh.
- 32:35Speaker 1: It is a devastating reality.
- 32:37Speaker 2: It underscores the harsh truth that while our technological infrastructure
- 32:41Speaker 2: is incredibly adept at reconstructing the mechanics of a crime
- 32:45Speaker 2: and identifying the perpetrator, it offers absolutely no remedy for
- 32:48Speaker 2: the human cost.
- 32:49Speaker 1: We started this deep dive exploring the concept of the
- 32:52Speaker 1: perfect crime and how the modern criminal underestimates the world
- 32:56Speaker 1: they live in. Most of you probably view your devices
- 32:58Speaker 1: with a sense of mild paranoia. You assume your phones
- 33:01Speaker 1: are listening to your conversations to serve you targeted ads
- 33:04Speaker 1: on social media.
- 33:05Speaker 2: But the surveillance is far more fundamental and pervasive than
- 33:08Speaker 2: just targeted marketing.
- 33:09Speaker 1: The reality is that your devices act as silent, infallible
- 33:13Speaker 1: witnesses to your life. They don't require sleep. They don't
- 33:16Speaker 1: get confused under pressure. And they certainly don't invent ridiculous
- 33:20Speaker 1: stories about driving across the country for 15 grams of marijuana.
- 33:23Speaker 1: They simply log the truth ping by ping. The next
- 33:26Speaker 1: time you find yourself on a long stretch of highway,
- 33:30Speaker 1: consider the invisible tether connecting your dashboard to every cell
- 33:33Speaker 1: tower and license plate reader you pass. You're constantly broadcasting
- 33:37Speaker 1: your existence to the network. Are any of us ever
- 33:40Speaker 1: truly off the grid?
- 33:41Speaker 2: The architecture of the modern world suggests the answer is no.
- 33:44Speaker 2: Every movement leaves a shadow.
- 33:46Speaker 1: Something to keep in mind the next time you connect
- 33:48Speaker 1: to public Wi-Fi. Until next time.