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- 0:03Speaker 1: Secret lives can be the death of you.
- 0:07Speaker 2: A brutal killing.
- 0:09Speaker 3: She was just this lovable girl who had no enemies.
- 0:15Speaker 1: There was no reason for this.
- 0:18Speaker 2: A dark mystery with multiple suspects.
- 0:22Speaker 4: The dangers of internet dating. It's a game of Russian roulette.
- 0:27Speaker 3: Only her closest friends knew that she had this wild side.
- 0:34Speaker 1: There's plenty of crazy people out there that she might
- 0:37Speaker 1: have sent a picture to.
- 0:38Speaker 2: The truth will be revealed.
- 0:44Speaker 3: She fought for her life.
- 0:47Speaker 1: That's a pretty violent way to kill somebody.
- 0:54Speaker 2: Every day in North America, dozens of people are murdered.
- 0:59Speaker 2: The key to solving the toughest of these homicides lies
- 1:02Speaker 2: in the final 24 hours of the victim's life. To
- 1:06Speaker 2: crack the case, detectives must reconstruct that critical timeline, the
- 1:11Speaker 2: minutes and hours containing evidence that can help unlock the
- 1:15Speaker 2: mystery and catch the killer. Staten Island's Willowbrook neighborhood, a
- 1:30Speaker 2: world away from the hustle and bustle of New York.
- 1:36Speaker 3: It's basically like Smallville, USA. The neighborhood itself was made
- 1:41Speaker 3: up of a lot of Orthodox Jewish families.
- 1:47Speaker 1: On a sunny Saturday, they'll see people walk into the synagogue. Safe,
- 1:53Speaker 1: quiet area.
- 1:56Speaker 2: But when a mother comes home one night after work,
- 1:59Speaker 2: she finds it far too quiet.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Seema Posse came home around 7 p.m. that night. Something
- 2:07Speaker 1: didn't appear to be right right from the beginning.
- 2:12Speaker 3: The back door appeared to be open. She thought her daughter, Eliza,
- 2:18Speaker 3: would still be at work.
- 2:21Speaker 1: The house appeared to be in disarray. There was papers
- 2:26Speaker 1: thrown on the floor, drawers open, objects thrown all over
- 2:30Speaker 1: the ground. The first thing she did is to call
- 2:35Speaker 1: her daughter to see if Eliza was okay. There was
- 2:40Speaker 1: no answer. She was upset and worried. She goes to
- 2:48Speaker 1: check her daughter's bedroom door. It's locked.
- 2:57Speaker 3: She panicked. She ran outside. She called 911 and waited
- 3:03Speaker 3: for police to come.
- 3:06Speaker 1: She felt that something bad happened, and then she didn't
- 3:09Speaker 1: want to see that by herself.
- 3:12Speaker 2: NYPD Detective Michael Kenney is called to the scene.
- 3:17Speaker 1: When the police come in, they break down the door.
- 3:19Speaker 1: The laser posse was found dead in her bedroom. She
- 3:31Speaker 1: was 18 years old.
- 3:37Speaker 3: Once the police told Seema what had happened to Eliza,
- 3:41Speaker 3: she just started shrieking, screaming, like people who didn't even
- 3:45Speaker 3: know what was going on were coming out of the
- 3:46Speaker 3: houses to see what was going on outside. She could
- 3:52Speaker 3: not believe the daughter that she just left several hours
- 3:54Speaker 3: earlier was now dead.
- 4:00Speaker 2: To capture the killer, Detective Kenny will need to piece
- 4:04Speaker 2: together Eliza's final day on Earth.
- 4:07Speaker 5: The last 24 hours are critical to any investigation. It
- 4:10Speaker 5: provides the information the investigator needs, such as who, what, where, when,
- 4:16Speaker 5: and why. And that applies to every murder case as
- 4:19Speaker 5: you're trying to solve it.
- 4:20Speaker 1: The first thing we do in trying to determine the
- 4:23Speaker 1: time of death was speak to the last people that
- 4:26Speaker 1: spoke to her. So our first interview office would be Seema,
- 4:29Speaker 1: her mother. When Seema left around 10 a.m. in the
- 4:34Speaker 1: morning to go to work, Eliza was still home. Eliza
- 4:38Speaker 1: normally would have been going to work around 1 p.m.
- 4:42Speaker 1: That particular day, she called in late. So she was
- 4:45Speaker 1: going to work after 1 o'clock. Seema comes home around 7.
- 4:51Speaker 1: So somewhere between 1 p.m. and 7 p.m. is when
- 4:55Speaker 1: Eliza was killed.
- 4:57Speaker 2: Through tears, her mother provides the details of Eliza's life. Now,
- 5:02Speaker 2: cut tragically short.
- 5:04Speaker 3: Eliza and her mother were very close. This was her
- 5:07Speaker 3: little girl who she was looking forward to, you know,
- 5:11Speaker 3: watching grow up and get married and have kids. She
- 5:15Speaker 3: just graduated high school. She was taking off a year
- 5:18Speaker 3: just to work and save up some money. She was
- 5:23Speaker 3: just a very friendly, outgoing girl, liked by anybody who
- 5:27Speaker 3: knew her. Eliza grew up in a very religious, orthodox household.
- 5:37Speaker 3: Her mother and father divorced about a year before the murder,
- 5:42Speaker 3: and her father moved back to Israel.
- 5:46Speaker 2: Eliza's mother isn't the only family member interviewed at the scene.
- 5:51Speaker 3: Eliza had a half-brother, Raviv Gabay, and he was just
- 5:56Speaker 3: getting married as the parents got divorced.
- 6:00Speaker 1: Raviv ran a kosher cookie business. I wanted to know
- 6:05Speaker 1: what he did that day, where he was. Raviv told
- 6:09Speaker 1: me that he was delivering cookies. He was out on
- 6:13Speaker 1: Long Island around 1 p.m. making a delivery. After he
- 6:18Speaker 1: learned of his sister's death, he came to the house
- 6:21Speaker 1: to console his mother. Raviv was with Seema, hugging her,
- 6:29Speaker 1: consoling her. and asking me a lot of questions. How
- 6:35Speaker 1: could somebody do this? We need to solve this case.
- 6:40Speaker 2: For Detective Kenny and his team, the first step is
- 6:43Speaker 2: to examine the crime scene.
- 6:46Speaker 1: There's Eliza laying on the ground naked. There was a
- 6:53Speaker 1: pillow over her face. The towel underneath her. and a
- 7:02Speaker 1: mattress that was pulled over part of her body.
- 7:07Speaker 3: Her hair was wet still, so they were theorizing that
- 7:12Speaker 3: she would have just come out of the shower.
- 7:16Speaker 1: But it almost appeared that she was placed there. There
- 7:20Speaker 1: looked like there was some bruising on the face. There
- 7:23Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of trauma to the neck.
- 7:26Speaker 6: Suffocation is one of those types of murder that requires the...
- 7:32Speaker 6: to be overpowered by the assailant. It is not a
- 7:37Speaker 6: death that is easily accomplished if the victim is able
- 7:40Speaker 6: to fight and struggle, and therefore, it can take a
- 7:45Speaker 6: prolonged period of time, and there's an element of pain
- 7:48Speaker 6: and suffering.
- 7:50Speaker 1: But this person overpowered Eliza pretty quickly, but you would
- 7:54Speaker 1: think it would be a male, somebody bigger and stronger
- 7:58Speaker 1: than she was.
- 8:00Speaker 6: She was in a state of undress, which automatically you
- 8:04Speaker 6: have to entertain the possibility that there was sexual assault
- 8:08Speaker 6: or sexual activity.
- 8:12Speaker 1: We fingerprinted all the areas that we could. We bagged
- 8:17Speaker 1: the pillow that was over her face, the towel that
- 8:21Speaker 1: was underneath Eliza. There was a spot or two of
- 8:26Speaker 1: blood on the towel.
- 8:30Speaker 3: And they discovered some skin under her fingernails. Of course,
- 8:36Speaker 3: they scraped that and sent that to the lab also
- 8:39Speaker 3: to check for DNA.
- 8:41Speaker 6: When investigating a crime such as this, you want to
- 8:45Speaker 6: throw a wide net and try to collect as much
- 8:49Speaker 6: evidence and data as possible.
- 8:52Speaker 1: We knew that ultimately some DNA would be coming back
- 8:55Speaker 1: from Eliza, whether the blood stain or all the stuff
- 8:58Speaker 1: under her fingernails. I felt early on that anybody I
- 9:02Speaker 1: spoke to, I would take a DNA swab.
- 9:07Speaker 2: But processing this evidence takes time.
- 9:10Speaker 6: The CSI effect, as it's known, has altered the public's
- 9:15Speaker 6: perception of how long things take. Crimes are not solved
- 9:20Speaker 6: in two hours. It takes hours and hours of examining
- 9:26Speaker 6: evidence and analyzing test results that come back.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Obviously, they're not going to stop an investigation and just
- 9:33Speaker 1: wait until it comes back. This was a high-profile case,
- 9:37Speaker 1: and the pressure to solve this case was strong.
- 9:42Speaker 2: Detectives worked to uncover what brought the killer into the
- 9:45Speaker 2: Parsi's home.
- 9:50Speaker 1: There was a few possibilities in how Liza was killed.
- 9:55Speaker 1: The first, obviously, being a burglary. Given that... the house
- 10:00Speaker 1: was in disarray, that was obviously our first angle.
- 10:04Speaker 3: After the police did a search, they determined that maybe
- 10:07Speaker 3: a few dollars and some jewelry was missing.
- 10:11Speaker 4: If you're breaking into a house to steal spare change
- 10:17Speaker 4: and the homeowner comes in What the burglar is thinking is,
- 10:21Speaker 4: I can try to run away, but I may not
- 10:23Speaker 4: make it. And if I don't make it, then I'm
- 10:26Speaker 4: going to jail for a long time. And so they
- 10:28Speaker 4: make a split-second decision, and they commit a murder.
- 10:33Speaker 1: In this particular case, it appeared that somebody entered through
- 10:36Speaker 1: the rear door. The first thing you want to check
- 10:40Speaker 1: is people's M.O.s. Is there a patent? Is there a
- 10:43Speaker 1: particular person that's going around, going through unlocked back doors?
- 10:50Speaker 2: Detectives canvas the neighborhood, looking for a lead. They discover
- 10:55Speaker 2: a community in shock.
- 10:58Speaker 3: It's not a place where you get murders. But here
- 11:02Speaker 3: you have a girl who everybody might have saw the
- 11:05Speaker 3: day before, waving, saying hi. And now they find out
- 11:10Speaker 3: that she's dead in her own bedroom. I mean, they
- 11:15Speaker 3: just couldn't fathom it. This is something you see on
- 11:19Speaker 3: the 6 o'clock news in another neighborhood, not in their backyard.
- 11:25Speaker 3: It's also a neighborhood where neighbors look out for each other.
- 11:30Speaker 3: If there's a stranger, people take notice.
- 11:35Speaker 1: Looking at the window from 1 PM to 7, the
- 11:38Speaker 1: neighbors did identify this particular group of landscapers that were
- 11:44Speaker 1: in that vicinity at the window where Eliza could have
- 11:48Speaker 1: been killed. That would be an opportunity if there's a
- 11:51Speaker 1: bunch of people cutting lawns. Nobody would take a second
- 11:55Speaker 1: look if somebody was to walk down into the driveway,
- 11:58Speaker 1: go in the back of the house and try doors.
- 12:02Speaker 1: There was five young men. We ended up interviewing each
- 12:08Speaker 1: one of them. All five of the landscapers, we took
- 12:12Speaker 1: DNA swabs and we took fingerprints. It was also helpful
- 12:17Speaker 1: to get a reaction on somebody not wanting to be
- 12:20Speaker 1: swabbed or being swabbed. Each one of them were very cooperative.
- 12:27Speaker 1: My gut was that they weren't involved, that they were
- 12:31Speaker 1: just landscapers doing their job.
- 12:37Speaker 2: They looked to Eliza herself for more clues.
- 12:44Speaker 1: And looking at the body, it didn't appear like there
- 12:46Speaker 1: was a substantial struggle. If somebody broke into your house
- 12:51Speaker 1: and it was a stranger, there would be some screaming
- 12:54Speaker 1: and yelling, maybe chasing, running around. If Eliza was familiar
- 12:59Speaker 1: with this sailing, it might have been like, what are
- 13:01Speaker 1: you doing here? And then an attack happened.
- 13:07Speaker 2: A key detail from the crime scene adds weight to
- 13:10Speaker 2: this theory.
- 13:12Speaker 6: In cases in which the body is covered and the
- 13:15Speaker 6: body is concealed, that suggests that the murderer has feelings
- 13:21Speaker 6: of shame about what they've done.
- 13:24Speaker 5: They can't handle looking at the dead person, which leads
- 13:28Speaker 5: the investigator to believe this killer knew the dead person.
- 13:34Speaker 2: Detectives turn to her brother, Raviv, to learn more about
- 13:38Speaker 2: her relationships.
- 13:40Speaker 1: Raviv gave us some direction whom we wanted to speak
- 13:43Speaker 1: to regarding her personal life. Most of his conversation was
- 13:47Speaker 1: directed at the ex-boyfriend. He insisted that we look at him,
- 13:55Speaker 1: that he was a controlling, aggressive ex-boyfriend that had feelings
- 13:59Speaker 1: for her that were still unresolved. Raviv felt strongly that
- 14:05Speaker 1: this was the person who killed Eliza.
- 14:15Speaker 2: The troubled history between Eliza Parsi and her former boyfriend, Marik,
- 14:20Speaker 2: has caught the attention of the NYPD.
- 14:23Speaker 3: She had broken up with him a little while before,
- 14:27Speaker 3: and he did not take it well. On surface, it's
- 14:32Speaker 3: just a couple of teenagers breaking up. This was a
- 14:36Speaker 3: little more intense. She was this Jewish Orthodox girl, And
- 14:43Speaker 3: he was a Muslim, came from a Muslim family, so
- 14:47Speaker 3: some people wondered if that's the reason why she broke
- 14:49Speaker 3: up with him.
- 14:51Speaker 1: The families didn't really want them together in the first place.
- 14:56Speaker 3: He started to stalk her, follow her to work, follow
- 15:00Speaker 3: her after work, seeing where she was, who she hung
- 15:02Speaker 3: out with. He just wouldn't take a no from her.
- 15:07Speaker 3: There was one time when he even broke in She
- 15:17Speaker 3: was sleeping, and she woke up to see him standing
- 15:20Speaker 3: over her bed.
- 15:23Speaker 1: He was definitely somebody that we were looking at, a
- 15:26Speaker 1: person of interest that we felt strongly that he might
- 15:29Speaker 1: have been involved. We start going into some of his background.
- 15:36Speaker 1: We came to understand that he had some sort of
- 15:39Speaker 1: business connections with fake handbags. He was somewhat of a quasi-criminal,
- 15:47Speaker 1: He wasn't an altar boy, so to speak.
- 15:50Speaker 2: Then, Marik shows up at the crime scene.
- 15:54Speaker 5: It's rare to have persons who I will call witnesses
- 15:57Speaker 5: for now waiting at the crime scene to volunteer information
- 16:01Speaker 5: to the police.
- 16:03Speaker 3: It's unusual.
- 16:05Speaker 1: I felt it was important to grab him, bring him
- 16:07Speaker 1: back to the prison, and basically get a timeline from
- 16:10Speaker 1: him in the last 24 hours where he's been. His
- 16:15Speaker 1: whereabouts for those 24 hours was, you know, I was
- 16:18Speaker 1: home sleeping and did this and that. He didn't have
- 16:22Speaker 1: a concrete alibi, especially the window that we were looking
- 16:25Speaker 1: out from 1 p.m. to 7 p.m.
- 16:29Speaker 2: Detectives take Marik's DNA and look into his movements on
- 16:34Speaker 2: the day of the murder.
- 16:36Speaker 3: Eliza lived in Staten Island, and Staten Island is separated
- 16:41Speaker 3: from the rest of New York City by the Verrazano
- 16:44Speaker 3: Narrows Bridge. A lot of New Yorkers have what they
- 16:49Speaker 3: call an easy pass. They will have a time and
- 16:52Speaker 3: date when somebody went over the bridge and paid the toll.
- 16:56Speaker 3: So this is a very effective tool for police.
- 17:01Speaker 1: We ordered the easy pass records. We ordered his telephone records.
- 17:04Speaker 1: We're waiting for them to come back, along with the DNA.
- 17:12Speaker 2: Marique's behavior takes a strange turn.
- 17:16Speaker 3: Marie showed up at the funeral.
- 17:21Speaker 1: It was quite the ruckus. In fact, I think Raviv
- 17:26Speaker 1: had to be restrained from going after him. The mother
- 17:30Speaker 1: was yelling and screaming. They had to forcibly remove the
- 17:35Speaker 1: ex-boyfriend from the services. For the ex-boyfriend to go to
- 17:40Speaker 1: the funeral, from my perspective, there'd be a couple of reasons.
- 17:44Speaker 1: Number one, He wanted to go to appear that he
- 17:48Speaker 1: was grieving Elijah just like everybody else. He also might
- 17:54Speaker 1: have wanted to go to see other people's reaction, what
- 17:57Speaker 1: information he might be able to gather from the conversations
- 18:00Speaker 1: at the service. Staying close to the investigation could be
- 18:04Speaker 1: a reason to be there. He was a constant person
- 18:09Speaker 1: of interest.
- 18:11Speaker 2: As the spotlight glares over Marieke, Eliza's pathology exam reveals
- 18:17Speaker 2: a key new detail.
- 18:19Speaker 3: It was determined that she was, but it was determined
- 18:24Speaker 3: that she recently had consensual sex with someone.
- 18:30Speaker 1: One of the angles that they're normally going to look
- 18:32Speaker 1: at is talking to Eliza's friends to get an idea
- 18:35Speaker 1: of the person that died. And in the conversation, they
- 18:38Speaker 1: let us know there was this kind of secret life
- 18:41Speaker 1: that Eliza was living.
- 18:45Speaker 3: Only her closest friends knew that she had this wild
- 18:49Speaker 3: side to her, where she would go into clubs in
- 18:52Speaker 3: the city, and sometimes she would meet somebody that night.
- 18:59Speaker 3: And to the people on the block or her neighborhood,
- 19:02Speaker 3: that was probably just as shocking, if not more, than
- 19:06Speaker 3: the murder itself.
- 19:09Speaker 1: She had a very solid community of people that were
- 19:12Speaker 1: the same as her, and, you know, at 18 to say,
- 19:15Speaker 1: you know what, let me go into the city, find
- 19:17Speaker 1: somebody different, find somebody more fun. There's a certain maturity
- 19:22Speaker 1: to think of that and want to explore outside your
- 19:25Speaker 1: own little community.
- 19:28Speaker 2: But Eliza was doing more than frequenting clubs.
- 19:32Speaker 1: We found that Eliza was meeting people on the internet
- 19:36Speaker 1: and having sexual encounters with the people that she met.
- 19:42Speaker 1: Back then, there was no Instagram. There wasn't Facebook. The
- 19:46Speaker 1: internet was still in kind of an infancy stage. It
- 19:50Speaker 1: was a bit of an oddity. Was it ill-advised to
- 19:54Speaker 1: meet people on the internet? Yes.
- 19:59Speaker 4: The dangers of internet dating is it's a game of
- 20:01Speaker 4: Russian roulette. You do not know what is going to
- 20:05Speaker 4: happen to you if you get into a closed room
- 20:09Speaker 4: with a person you've never met before.
- 20:12Speaker 1: There's plenty of crazy people out there that she might
- 20:15Speaker 1: have sent a picture to, and that was enough to
- 20:17Speaker 1: try and track her down. She might have said where
- 20:20Speaker 1: she lives, and that was the extent of their exchange.
- 20:26Speaker 1: And he might have come and killed her.
- 20:32Speaker 2: Detectives begin the daunting task of tracing Eliza's online activity.
- 20:38Speaker 5: When we actually see a murder that the theory is
- 20:41Speaker 5: it was internet dating based, they're very difficult to solve
- 20:45Speaker 5: because of the ability to hide behind a website, to
- 20:48Speaker 5: hide behind an email address, to hide the address out
- 20:51Speaker 5: of the country. It's very difficult to deal with and
- 20:55Speaker 5: solve because you're dealing with fake identities.
- 20:57Speaker 3: All the time.
- 20:59Speaker 2: They managed to uncover a direct link to Eliza's timeline.
- 21:03Speaker 3: Police found out that Eliza was supposed to meet up
- 21:07Speaker 3: with somebody that she had met online and she had
- 21:10Speaker 3: talked to him the night before her death and that
- 21:14Speaker 3: she had made plans to meet up with him in
- 21:16Speaker 3: the near future.
- 21:17Speaker 4: The old adage is if you have a dead woman,
- 21:23Speaker 4: you put her last four boyfriends in a room and
- 21:26Speaker 4: one of them did it.
- 21:29Speaker 1: Is this internet encounter with this young man Maybe he
- 21:33Speaker 1: wanted something more and she didn't want to give him
- 21:35Speaker 1: to him.
- 21:42Speaker 2: Detectives hunting Eliza Parsi's killer have a new person of interest,
- 21:47Speaker 2: a man she met online.
- 21:49Speaker 1: Nobody was calling us and saying, by the way, I
- 21:51Speaker 1: also met Eliza on the internet. And, you know, we
- 21:55Speaker 1: were intimate. So we had to do our due diligence
- 21:58Speaker 1: and find this young.
- 21:59Speaker 2: Man Eliza's communication with him reveals another key detail.
- 22:06Speaker 1: The day before she was killed, he did meet with
- 22:09Speaker 1: her after 10 o'clock when Seema left. They were sexually active.
- 22:18Speaker 3: What she would do is, her mother had a pretty
- 22:20Speaker 3: set schedule, so she knew when she would leave and
- 22:22Speaker 3: come back. She would have people come over to her house,
- 22:28Speaker 3: and instead of coming in through the front, She would
- 22:30Speaker 3: leave the back door open, and this way no one
- 22:34Speaker 3: would see them.
- 22:37Speaker 1: I don't know if that was a daily thing, if
- 22:39Speaker 1: he would have came back the next day at 10 o'clock.
- 22:44Speaker 1: He would have been somebody that was familiar with the area,
- 22:47Speaker 1: familiar with the place, familiar with when mom's not home.
- 22:52Speaker 1: So he would definitely fit in the timeline of when
- 22:56Speaker 1: she was killed.
- 22:58Speaker 2: In order to speak with him, they must first track
- 23:02Speaker 2: him down.
- 23:04Speaker 1: We had some forensic detectives taking IP addresses and matching
- 23:08Speaker 1: them with people.
- 23:10Speaker 2: They trace the young man to a home in Brooklyn.
- 23:14Speaker 2: Police bring him in for questioning.
- 23:18Speaker 4: If you've communicated with a person on a computer, there's
- 23:21Speaker 4: no way of hiding that. And there will never be
- 23:25Speaker 4: a way for you to deny that. Full stop.
- 23:29Speaker 1: He was cooperative. He was forthright that he did know her,
- 23:32Speaker 1: that he did meet her, that he'd been to the house,
- 23:36Speaker 1: how it was coordinated. You know, he waited for her sometimes.
- 23:41Speaker 1: If he was there too early, he would have to
- 23:43Speaker 1: walk around the block. He knew the mother's car. He
- 23:46Speaker 1: would have to wait to see to make sure that
- 23:48Speaker 1: they didn't cross paths. He was very forthright regarding the relationship,
- 23:54Speaker 1: that it was a secret relationship, that they met on
- 23:56Speaker 1: the internet, that there was only a couple of encounters.
- 24:01Speaker 1: When I told him that she was murdered, he was
- 24:04Speaker 1: obviously upset. He was surprised. But he did say that
- 24:09Speaker 1: he did not meet her on the day she was killed.
- 24:13Speaker 1: All this stuff was information that he gave me freely,
- 24:16Speaker 1: and he also freely gave me his DNA. We ordered
- 24:21Speaker 1: the Easy Pass records. We ordered his telephone records. I
- 24:25Speaker 1: didn't feel that he was a person of interest.
- 24:29Speaker 2: Investigators continue to scour Eliza's digital history.
- 24:34Speaker 1: For each person that we identified and then she met
- 24:36Speaker 1: on the internet, I would go through a timeline. I
- 24:40Speaker 1: would have them do the 24 hours, what they did,
- 24:44Speaker 1: where they were, who they were with during that time,
- 24:47Speaker 1: how they knew Eliza. And obviously, I would take a
- 24:52Speaker 1: DNA swap of each one of them. In interviewing each
- 24:56Speaker 1: of the person that we identified, I didn't have a
- 24:59Speaker 1: specific feeling any one of them was a person of interest.
- 25:04Speaker 1: They seemed to be people that were involved.
- 25:09Speaker 3: They were looking at these people, but no one was
- 25:12Speaker 3: ruled out. Eliza's murder was not your typical homicide, but
- 25:18Speaker 3: the detectives that work it, they were very dogged. That's
- 25:22Speaker 3: the thing with homicide detectives. You know, they take it personal.
- 25:27Speaker 3: It's almost like one of theirs, one of their family.
- 25:30Speaker 3: And they work, you know, it seems like they work
- 25:33Speaker 3: that much harder. On this one, they left no stone unturned,
- 25:38Speaker 3: all while waiting for the DNA to come back.
- 25:44Speaker 2: As police quietly investigate Eliza's secret life, the press is
- 25:49Speaker 2: making it public.
- 25:52Speaker 3: I went from a burglary to now here's a young,
- 25:55Speaker 3: pretty girl who might have been caught up in some
- 25:59Speaker 3: kind of sexual encounter, and, you know, that gets the
- 26:04Speaker 3: press a little more interested.
- 26:05Speaker 1: It was an unfair dramatization of what, you know, what's
- 26:11Speaker 1: going on. I personally felt, you know, bad about that.
- 26:18Speaker 1: I did get phone calls from Seema, you know, asking me,
- 26:21Speaker 1: and she found that out from the news. It wasn't
- 26:27Speaker 1: fun to tell the mother that she learned from the
- 26:30Speaker 1: news that her daughter, who was 18, was sexually active
- 26:34Speaker 1: with strangers. It wasn't a comfortable conversation. When Eliza was 18,
- 26:40Speaker 1: my daughters were like 15, 16. Every once in a while,
- 26:43Speaker 1: those things can creep in. You can say, oh, my daughter,
- 26:46Speaker 1: you know, is home alone at times. But you have
- 26:50Speaker 1: to be able to separate your professional from your personal life.
- 26:55Speaker 1: You see the things that people have done to another and,
- 26:58Speaker 1: you know, you try not to get hardened from it,
- 27:00Speaker 1: but you have to look at it as a job.
- 27:04Speaker 1: You're there to make a difference. You're there to get
- 27:06Speaker 1: from A to Z. And, you know, you have to
- 27:09Speaker 1: stay focused.
- 27:13Speaker 2: This focus leads to detectives uncovering her name on a
- 27:17Speaker 2: police report.
- 27:19Speaker 1: This kind of secret life that Eliza was living, unbeknownst
- 27:23Speaker 1: to her mother and her brother, had its consequences. She
- 27:27Speaker 1: made a report that she was a sexual assaulter.
- 27:32Speaker 3: She left the bar in Harlem and went to an apartment.
- 27:38Speaker 3: And when she woke up, there were several naked men
- 27:41Speaker 3: standing over her.
- 27:44Speaker 1: Could have one of these four or five assailants looked
- 27:47Speaker 1: for retribution towards her for this assault? I didn't do anything,
- 27:51Speaker 1: and you're causing trouble for me. I don't want to
- 27:55Speaker 1: be arrested and I'm going to now kill you.
- 28:05Speaker 2: A report claiming Eliza was sexually assaulted by multiple men
- 28:10Speaker 2: gives Detective Kenny a new line of inquiry.
- 28:14Speaker 1: I think this kind of alternate lifestyle that she was
- 28:17Speaker 1: at a young age of 18 had its consequences. And
- 28:21Speaker 1: this was obviously something of interest for us as to
- 28:25Speaker 1: what might have caused her demise.
- 28:28Speaker 2: But tracking them down will be an uphill battle.
- 28:33Speaker 3: Police investigated it, but they were not able to arrest anyone.
- 28:37Speaker 1: It wasn't like, all of a sudden, this is it. Oh,
- 28:41Speaker 1: we found out that she made a complaint that she
- 28:44Speaker 1: and these are the people. There were so many different layers,
- 28:47Speaker 1: so many aspects. But you always have to follow wherever
- 28:51Speaker 1: investigation goes. You're not going to discount anything. Obviously then
- 28:56Speaker 1: I had to follow through with that and find out
- 28:59Speaker 1: who she met and how she had contact with these people.
- 29:03Speaker 5: You as a police officer have to be aware of
- 29:05Speaker 5: that at the time. If there are other suspects, you
- 29:08Speaker 5: must investigate them. It's part of your job. You can't
- 29:12Speaker 5: be totally tunnel visioned on the one person and only
- 29:16Speaker 5: that person. If these branches take you away, you have
- 29:20Speaker 5: to investigate it.
- 29:22Speaker 2: As detectives search for the identities of the men who
- 29:25Speaker 2: assaulted Eliza, the DNA results come back and open up
- 29:30Speaker 2: an entirely new direction.
- 29:33Speaker 1: The first phone call I get from the medical examiner's
- 29:36Speaker 1: office is that the DNA results ruled out any of
- 29:39Speaker 1: the males that she met on the internet, the landscapers.
- 29:43Speaker 1: It ruled out the boyfriend, the ex-boyfriend. To my surprise,
- 29:47Speaker 1: the DNA that is found on the towel was that
- 29:52Speaker 1: of a relative, a male.
- 29:54Speaker 3: The only male relative they had was the half-brother, Raviv Gabay.
- 30:03Speaker 1: To me, it wasn't like, oh, we got the person.
- 30:05Speaker 1: It was that, you know, could have been the blood
- 30:08Speaker 1: was left because he had a bloody nose the day
- 30:10Speaker 1: before and they just didn't clean the towel.
- 30:14Speaker 6: DNA can be a very helpful investigative tool in that
- 30:18Speaker 6: it may cause investigators to look at someone that they
- 30:21Speaker 6: had not considered before, that they may want to investigate
- 30:28Speaker 6: what their activity was the last 24 hours and how
- 30:31Speaker 6: that related to the victims' activities.
- 30:35Speaker 2: Detectives work to understand how Raviv fits into the timeline
- 30:39Speaker 2: of the homicide.
- 30:40Speaker 1: When I originally spoke to him and asking where he
- 30:43Speaker 1: was while he was doing that day, he said he
- 30:45Speaker 1: was out in Long Island making a delivery. We had
- 30:49Speaker 1: started to break down where he said he was at
- 30:52Speaker 1: what particular time. So we ordered his E-ZPass records. Once
- 31:00Speaker 1: we get the records, we'd be able to get a photograph.
- 31:06Speaker 1: As you go through the toll, he takes a picture.
- 31:11Speaker 1: They're what they call robbery cameras. So anybody that comes
- 31:14Speaker 1: onto the island, we can basically have a picture of
- 31:17Speaker 1: who was in that car. He had a very unique
- 31:21Speaker 1: delivery truck. We had photos of him coming over the
- 31:25Speaker 1: Verrazano in around one o'clock. Now, Raviv is a person
- 31:31Speaker 1: of interest. Why would he say he was somewhere else
- 31:34Speaker 1: at the window where she was apparently killed?
- 31:38Speaker 2: This gives them enough for a warrant to examine Raviv's
- 31:41Speaker 2: cell phone records.
- 31:46Speaker 4: I carry my cell phone everywhere I go. If you
- 31:48Speaker 4: go to my cell phone provider, you will find that
- 31:52Speaker 4: the cell phone towers were going off in the area
- 31:55Speaker 4: I'm telling you I was in. Depending on what you've
- 31:57Speaker 4: got turned on in your phones, you can be placed
- 32:00Speaker 4: down within two or three yards of where you actually
- 32:02Speaker 4: were at any given time. And unless it's a great
- 32:06Speaker 4: coincidence that I just happened to be within 10 square
- 32:10Speaker 4: yards of where the murder took place and I had
- 32:13Speaker 4: a motive, an opportunity to do it, my cell phone
- 32:16Speaker 4: is going to clear me.
- 32:18Speaker 1: When we got his cell site information, his cell site
- 32:22Speaker 1: information puts him in Staten Island in and around 1 p.m.
- 32:27Speaker 1: We knew exactly where how Raviv was at any given time. 1.30,
- 32:34Speaker 1: we have him in the area of the house. And then, like,
- 32:39Speaker 1: right on the corner around 2.10, so why would he lie?
- 32:42Speaker 2: Raviv's timeline gives him means and opportunity. Next comes the
- 32:49Speaker 2: search for motive.
- 32:51Speaker 1: About a year or so before the murder, Raviv got married.
- 32:56Speaker 1: And as a wedding gift, the family gave Raviv the business,
- 33:01Speaker 1: delivering the cookies to the kosher stores.
- 33:05Speaker 3: The problem with it was that whether it was Raviv
- 33:08Speaker 3: not knowing how to run it, being a young kid,
- 33:11Speaker 3: just married, but the business wasn't doing well.
- 33:15Speaker 1: We found out that he was trying to keep his
- 33:18Speaker 1: wife in a lifestyle that she was accustomed to. Our
- 33:22Speaker 1: parents had a very nice house. They had more money
- 33:26Speaker 1: than Raviv and his family. And that was a lot
- 33:28Speaker 1: of pressure on him.
- 33:31Speaker 5: I've experienced several cases in my time where the suspect
- 33:36Speaker 5: is a family member. This often happens when there's inheritance involved.
- 33:41Speaker 5: So money is a great motivator. Money makes people kill too.
- 33:47Speaker 2: But Raviv's money trouble doesn't explain why Eliza would be targeted.
- 33:53Speaker 3: But Raviv did stay close with his sister. He still
- 33:57Speaker 3: kept an eye on her, asked her what she was doing.
- 34:02Speaker 1: There was nothing that there was hostility or she owed
- 34:04Speaker 1: him money or they grew up together hating each other.
- 34:07Speaker 1: But you want to kind of let the facts take
- 34:09Speaker 1: you to whatever place it takes you.
- 34:13Speaker 2: With Raviv looking guilty, detectives need to compare his DNA
- 34:18Speaker 2: specifically to what was found.
- 34:20Speaker 3: At the scene.
- 34:21Speaker 1: The DNA that is found on the towel was that
- 34:25Speaker 1: of a Raviv's. And the skin under her nails was,
- 34:30Speaker 1: in fact, also Raviv's. There's nothing more solid than when
- 34:34Speaker 1: somebody was assaulted and there's dead skin under somebody's nails.
- 34:41Speaker 1: Why would a brother want to kill his sister for
- 34:42Speaker 1: no reason? It doesn't make any sense.
- 34:51Speaker 2: Detective Michael Kenney is convinced Eliza's half-brother is the one
- 34:55Speaker 2: who killed her. But concerns over a conviction still remain.
- 35:00Speaker 1: I have to go back at some point and tell
- 35:02Speaker 1: the mother that your son killed your daughter. She's going
- 35:06Speaker 1: to want to know why. The best way to know
- 35:08Speaker 1: why is to get it from him. So I called
- 35:12Speaker 1: Raviv and told him the ex-boyfriend had some other friends
- 35:17Speaker 1: that we were looking into, and I don't know who
- 35:19Speaker 1: they are. I asked him to come to the precinct
- 35:22Speaker 1: and look at some photographs. So he's a little belligerent.
- 35:28Speaker 1: He started giving out to me that why he's taking
- 35:31Speaker 1: so long, that this case is going on for a month.
- 35:35Speaker 1: We all know it was the ex-boyfriend. Why don't you
- 35:37Speaker 1: arrest him already? So I have to play along, and
- 35:40Speaker 1: I was apologetic. I'm trying my best, but I need
- 35:43Speaker 1: your help. To my surprise, he does come in the
- 35:48Speaker 1: next day, but he brings his wife. I have his
- 35:52Speaker 1: wife sit in one room and I bring him into
- 35:55Speaker 1: an interview room.
- 35:58Speaker 2: Armed with a meticulously constructed timeline, Detective Kenny goes in
- 36:03Speaker 2: to break apart Raviv's story.
- 36:06Speaker 1: I start again asking him about his whereabouts, where he
- 36:09Speaker 1: was and when. So he starts answering the questions like normally,
- 36:15Speaker 1: but then he starts like, why are you asking me?
- 36:17Speaker 1: I thought I'm here to look at pictures. and he
- 36:20Speaker 1: was starting to get a little more hostile.
- 36:23Speaker 3: They hit him with, like, they knew that he was lying.
- 36:26Speaker 3: They knew that he wasn't in Brooklyn at the time
- 36:29Speaker 3: of the death. They knew that he was in Staten Island.
- 36:32Speaker 3: And they kept pressuring him, pressuring him. You know, why,
- 36:35Speaker 3: why'd you do this? And he wouldn't crack. He wouldn't
- 36:39Speaker 3: say that he did it.
- 36:41Speaker 1: It's pretty common for people to deny, even with that
- 36:44Speaker 1: kind of evidence, just for self-preservation.
- 36:48Speaker 4: If the police have evidence that you've done it, and
- 36:52Speaker 4: they've got the skills to interview you, they will make
- 36:56Speaker 4: you crack in that interview room. Very few people who
- 37:01Speaker 4: have committed a crime can withstand a successful police interview.
- 37:08Speaker 1: We just laid it all out for him, that we
- 37:10Speaker 1: have your DNA, we know you did it, just tell
- 37:13Speaker 1: us why you did it. He kept denying, I didn't
- 37:16Speaker 1: do it, but I kind of threatened him, I told him,
- 37:19Speaker 1: tell me what happened, or I will go out and
- 37:22Speaker 1: tell your wife and the community that your sister and
- 37:26Speaker 1: that you then killed her. Because I don't have any
- 37:30Speaker 1: other information, and, you know, that's as good a story
- 37:33Speaker 1: as any. At this point, he started crying. He told
- 37:39Speaker 1: us what occurred. He tells me that the business wasn't
- 37:44Speaker 1: doing very well. So in review's mind, something that might
- 37:49Speaker 1: have been worth a lot of money a couple years
- 37:50Speaker 1: ago as a wedding gift wasn't worth anything. So he
- 37:54Speaker 1: felt that he was still owed a wedding gift. He
- 37:57Speaker 1: came to find out that his mother came into some
- 38:00Speaker 1: money from the sale of a house. He believed it
- 38:03Speaker 1: was more than $ 25, 000. So he felt that she was
- 38:07Speaker 1: hoarding that money somewhere. So that's why he broke into
- 38:10Speaker 1: the house. She caught him in the act, wanted to
- 38:15Speaker 1: know what's going on. The confrontation happened in that hallway
- 38:20Speaker 1: and then ended up in her room.
- 38:24Speaker 2: The timeline explains moment by moment the tragic events of
- 38:28Speaker 2: Eliza's final day and how Raviv's lust for money led
- 38:32Speaker 2: him to kill.
- 38:36Speaker 1: Mom leaves the house regularly around 10 a.m. every day,
- 38:40Speaker 1: leaving Eliza home alone. Eliza calls her boss and says,
- 38:46Speaker 1: and lets her know that she's not going to be
- 38:48Speaker 1: at work on time, that she's going to come in later.
- 38:52Speaker 3: Ravi made some deliveries in Brooklyn, and then he altered
- 38:57Speaker 3: his route and headed to Staten Island. He went over
- 39:01Speaker 3: the Verrazano Bridge, went to the apartment that he went
- 39:06Speaker 3: to many times before, entered through the back door, which
- 39:11Speaker 3: he knew was open at times.
- 39:16Speaker 1: He already had gone through the downstairs, and he was
- 39:20Speaker 1: in the mother's bedroom looking for the money.
- 39:24Speaker 3: Eliza's just coming out of the shower with a towel
- 39:27Speaker 3: on her, and he's going through drawers.
- 39:33Speaker 1: She could have grabbed the phone, I'm calling mom or
- 39:36Speaker 1: I'm calling the police, which would have escalated his anger.
- 39:42Speaker 3: She put up a valiant fight. It was all skin
- 39:46Speaker 3: under her fingernails. Like, she fought for her life.
- 39:51Speaker 1: And then he took a pillow, put it over her face,
- 39:56Speaker 1: took a mattress, covered her body, and left.
- 40:08Speaker 3: After he killed her, he got back into his van,
- 40:11Speaker 3: which was still filled with cookies, drove back over the
- 40:14Speaker 3: Verrazano Bridge, and went into Brooklyn and finished his route.
- 40:21Speaker 3: He did show up later in the day and again
- 40:24Speaker 3: appeared to be a very upset brother. But it turned
- 40:30Speaker 3: out to be just an act.
- 40:33Speaker 1: Raviv never found any money in the house because unbeknownst
- 40:37Speaker 1: to him, that money was spent. So there wasn't any
- 40:41Speaker 1: money in the house to begin with. I never felt
- 40:46Speaker 1: Raviv had any remorse. Sometimes you feel like somebody is
- 40:51Speaker 1: telling you what happened as I've been holding this in
- 40:53Speaker 1: for so long. It just comes out in kind of
- 40:56Speaker 1: a release of guilt and stuff. But I never felt
- 40:59Speaker 1: that Raviv had an ounce of guilt. If you define
- 41:04Speaker 1: a sociopath, it's just some lacking regret. I think you'd
- 41:07Speaker 1: probably say he's a sociopath.
- 41:12Speaker 2: Police charge Raviv Gabay with the murder of his sister.
- 41:18Speaker 1: I have to tell a mother that we solved your
- 41:20Speaker 1: daughter's murder, but it was your son who did it. So,
- 41:24Speaker 1: you know, it was difficult for me to do that. And,
- 41:28Speaker 1: you know, when I went to the house and I
- 41:32Speaker 1: told her, you know, she was hysterical. She spoke about
- 41:40Speaker 1: her daughter and how beautiful she was and all the
- 41:43Speaker 1: things that she had going for her in the future
- 41:46Speaker 1: that was ahead of her. and how the son that
- 41:50Speaker 1: she brought into this family ultimately killed her.
- 41:55Speaker 2: On May 2nd, 2006, Raviv pleads guilty to a reduced
- 41:59Speaker 2: charge of first-degree manslaughter. He is sentenced to 18 years
- 42:04Speaker 2: in prison.
- 42:06Speaker 1: One year for every year that Eliza was alive. So
- 42:11Speaker 1: he had to do the same amount of time in prison.
- 42:16Speaker 3: Seema then just started yelling, uncontrollably, in both English and Hebrew,
- 42:23Speaker 3: at her son, asking why, how could he do such
- 42:26Speaker 3: a thing? How could he commit such a crime? It
- 42:30Speaker 3: was a young, vibrant girl who had her whole life
- 42:33Speaker 3: ahead of her. He ruined so many lives just for
- 42:36Speaker 3: a couple of dollars and a piece of jewelry.
- 42:41Speaker 1: I personally felt for the mother. She lost both her
- 42:44Speaker 1: kids in the same day. It just wasn't a happy ending.
- 42:53Speaker 6: It goes counter to the whole notion of family. It's
- 42:58Speaker 6: a complete destruction of that trust that you have in
- 43:01Speaker 6: one another. Thank you.