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- 0:00All right.
- 0:24It's Monday, you know what time it is. FRPC football.
- 0:30And I am here. With.
- 0:35Just all kinds of greatness.
- 0:38The Canadian bomber, the Canadian shaman,
- 0:42the Canadian Bill Simmons.
- 0:45And for this show, the Canadian Mike Tomlin, Nico Micello.
- 0:50Monday, how is it treating you?
- 0:53Are you OK? What's going on?
- 0:57Yeah, I'm I'm doing OK.
- 1:00I'm surviving.
- 1:01I'm I'm never going to get used to that intro for sure.
- 1:05But I am that I'm I'm doing OK.
- 1:09I'm disappointed is probably the vibe.
- 1:14The vibe of disappointment.
- 1:16And that can only mean that we have hit.
- 1:19Three agency frenzy.
- 1:21Yes, I really, I really hate the title, by the way.
- 1:25It's so TV.
- 1:27We've hit the we've hit the tampering, the legal tampering period in the NFL.
- 1:32Let's just call it what it is.
- 1:34Mm hmm. But we got some news
- 1:38on some stuff since the last time we spoke.
- 1:41We got the Carolina Panthers who now own the number one overall pick.
- 1:47They knew they trade with Chicago.
- 1:50They are trading way.
- 1:53Obviously, the night pick, they are trading away their
- 1:57twenty twenty four first rounder and a twenty twenty five second rounder
- 2:03and second round this year.
- 2:05Yeah, yeah.
- 2:07And D.J. Moore.
- 2:11Mm hmm. I want some more.
- 2:14I want some more.
- 2:16Wow. The the Browns are
- 2:21making it hard for me to be a Steelers fan this year.
- 2:25Honestly, they're just acquiring all my favorite players.
- 2:29They almost make me want to jump ship.
- 2:31Not that you don't have to worry about the Browns, though.
- 2:33You can worry about the bears.
- 2:35Oh, the bear.
- 2:36The bears is what I meant.
- 2:38The bears is what I meant.
- 2:40I absolutely love that team, not the Browns.
- 2:42Justin Fields, I've always had a lot of love for.
- 2:46D.J. Moore is one of my absolute favorite players.
- 2:50I think he's arguably the most underrated receiver in the sport.
- 2:55And with a little more consistent quarterback play,
- 2:58which I'm hoping Justin Fields can provide, I think he could be
- 3:02a really elite player.
- 3:04And today, there are additions of Nate Davis along the offensive line.
- 3:09Showing some level of commitment there to protecting the young guy,
- 3:13Justin Fields and Tremaine Edmonds.
- 3:18Signing to a contract that was cheaper than the one Roquan Smith signed.
- 3:24And they got the second round pick for Roquan Smith.
- 3:27So all all in all, this is a great
- 3:34series of moves for the Bears,
- 3:36creating a new, exciting young core full of guys that I personally love.
- 3:42And I'm interested to see how it works going forward.
- 3:51I was not in agreement with the Roquan Smith deal,
- 3:55but I understood it because they weren't going to be able to sign them.
- 3:59They were they're out of impact.
- 4:01So I understand why.
- 4:03I understand why.
- 4:04I just when you have a talent like that in the building,
- 4:07I just think you should find a way to get that done.
- 4:11But that said, what that means, said all the moves after
- 4:15and what has gone on, you cannot fault them at all.
- 4:20You know, it's safe or swim time for our guy Fields.
- 4:26Right.
- 4:28Definitely.
- 4:29This is this is the year.
- 4:31I would say that they would continue to fortify the offensive line for him.
- 4:39I would buy a through free agency or through the draft.
- 4:42Right. Hopefully that ninth pick is invested at tackle.
- 4:48I was in.
- 4:49Yeah, that's what I'd really like to see at this point.
- 4:53I I to be clear, I think that the
- 4:57I I to be clear, the Roke wants to make a deal in a vacuum.
- 5:04I'm not I don't think it was necessarily good, but they replaced
- 5:10maybe 85 plus percent of Roke on Smith with also a player
- 5:15who's got a bigger body and remain Edmonds today.
- 5:18And I think that'll help them in the run game where they have struggled.
- 5:23And this is going to be an entirely new defense
- 5:25for the most part after moving on from guys like Robert Quinn
- 5:29and Roke on himself last year.
- 5:31So I I'm intrigued to see this new look defense
- 5:36that Ryan Poles is putting together.
- 5:39Indeed, their moves so far, like I said,
- 5:42haven't had a problem with any of it.
- 5:44And I also am a big proponent.
- 5:47If you make a mistake or you feel like you let one get away.
- 5:51That you probably go ahead and like remedy
- 5:55that situation as quickly as possible, don't hide from it to say, all right,
- 6:00yeah, we made a mistake.
- 6:02And now we're going to fix it.
- 6:05There's no shame in that.
- 6:06I think the teams that know thyself more
- 6:11and do really well with the self scout are usually the better teams.
- 6:17I would believe personally.
- 6:18Yeah, yeah, I totally agree.
- 6:21I think that's absolutely necessary in the team building process.
- 6:27There's a few other teams making big moves today as well.
- 6:31I was just about to segue for you and say, know thyself.
- 6:34So how about know thyself in the Pittsburgh Steelers?
- 6:39Yeah, I didn't love what went down today.
- 6:44I mean, absolutely no doubt.
- 6:46I mean, absolutely no disrespect to Patrick Peterson.
- 6:50I love to see him on our team.
- 6:53Clearly is on the latter half of his career.
- 6:56That being said, he was still incredibly solid last year in Minnesota.
- 7:01That being said as well.
- 7:06Pat Pete is mostly his own corner at times throughout
- 7:12or at this time in his career.
- 7:14And in man coverage, he can get beat off.
- 7:18And then Steelers were experimenting with more man coverage last offseason.
- 7:23That that being said, I do love
- 7:28just adding him to the team.
- 7:32How about Peterson playing safety?
- 7:35Any thoughts on on that situation?
- 7:38Because he's he's digging up.
- 7:40He is. But I
- 7:42the Steelers have Mink of his Patrick currently playing that like roaming
- 7:48safety and they use a guy like Terrell Edmonds,
- 7:52who's currently a free agent, but was last year's safety and has been
- 7:56the team safety for the last five
- 8:00as more of like an in the box guy.
- 8:02And I'm not so sure that's a role Peterson would fit necessarily.
- 8:07The the concerns I have with
- 8:14the Steelers moves today stem primarily from
- 8:18not only their now entire lack of a single slot corner on the roster
- 8:22outside of Arthur Millett, who I don't want to see play very much,
- 8:28is the loss of Kam Sutton, who was an excellent cornerback
- 8:33for this team, who played every role, wore every hat.
- 8:38He could be an outside corner.
- 8:40He was a dime corner when he first started.
- 8:43And we did some of his best work at Nickel Corner,
- 8:46has excellent ball skills, is a sure tackler
- 8:50and was really a true leader in the locker room.
- 8:54You go through the social medias of
- 8:59Steelers on the team currently,
- 9:02and you almost can't find a single one
- 9:05where there isn't some post in appreciation of Cameron Sutton.
- 9:09And even ex players are supporting him quite widely.
- 9:14He was an excellent player for us last year,
- 9:18who really saved us from our lack of cornerback depth.
- 9:21And at this point, losing him, I think, is pretty tragic.
- 9:27I feel you, buddy, because we lost Jalen Ramsey.
- 9:33We were trading him.
- 9:34I knew it was coming.
- 9:37But he is now Miami Dolphin.
- 9:40And say what you want about.
- 9:44The swag or his temperament,
- 9:47what he was for that team, how aggressive he was,
- 9:52how aggressive he was,
- 9:56literally, he was the only guy on the Super Bowl team
- 10:01up until the playoffs, who I thought played any with any physicality whatsoever.
- 10:07I remember I remember you saying that repeatedly.
- 10:11So to see him go was harsh.
- 10:15And to see him go for the third rounder,
- 10:17I was kind of hoping for a second rounder.
- 10:21I was joking on the pod last week about first rounders and what have you.
- 10:26But I was hoping for a second rounder, hoping for a little bit better return.
- 10:30But hey, you got the best years out of him.
- 10:34And hey, if you're getting a third rounder from forum at this stage,
- 10:40it's fine, because the one thing I do know is that if the Rams are in the first round,
- 10:46the Rams are in a position where they need to go out and get somebody,
- 10:50they do identify and go out and get that guy.
- 10:54So I don't really have a problem with that.
- 10:56This is just pick acquisition at this point.
- 11:01I think what you will see more of is that that 36 overall pick
- 11:07might get traded to move back a little bit and to acquire more.
- 11:11I also believe that that second third round pick would also be a prime situation
- 11:19where they will also use that to move back and acquire more picks as well.
- 11:23They need to restock the covers at this point.
- 11:27This is it's not Baron, but they need to hit on these guys
- 11:33and they need to hit on a decent clip as well to replenish.
- 11:38So that's that's our cornerback story as well.
- 11:42So we we are not in real good moods when it comes to the squad at this point.
- 11:48No, not particularly.
- 11:50I I thought that Ramsey might get traded for more than the third round pick.
- 11:57It ended up being.
- 11:58But once it became clear that he wasn't looking to take any sort of pay cut
- 12:03and in fact received more guaranteed money to go to the dolphins,
- 12:10it was clear that the compensation was going to be smaller.
- 12:15To what I'm assuming both of us.
- 12:19Well, here's the thing.
- 12:22I honestly, if you know anything about Ramsey, he's all he's been all about his cash.
- 12:27So this is not surprised me at all.
- 12:32That he didn't take a shave.
- 12:34Yeah, yeah.
- 12:36Yeah, he's all about his cash.
- 12:38So I didn't I didn't think that.
- 12:39So with that's actually now more with that being said,
- 12:43it actually even makes more sense that the third rounder
- 12:45was the actual compensation, because I knew Ramsey was never going to take a cut.
- 12:51Yeah. Yeah, that's that's fair.
- 12:54I I guess I thought I was more looking at it
- 12:58as he might have needed to take a pay cut like teams
- 13:02were going to be a little hesitant to take him on at that salary
- 13:07or hypothetically, maybe take him on in a situation
- 13:12where the Rams retain some money to just give him a signing bonus right before the trade.
- 13:17I was thinking something like that could happen more so than Ramsey
- 13:22would just get rid of money.
- 13:25But I definitely see what you're saying.
- 13:29The one other thing that that I'll say about Miami now,
- 13:33they have some studs there already, but there are younger guys will benefit
- 13:39with Jaylen Ramsey in the building.
- 13:42Yeah.
- 13:43Corner that came across Grams, the that was a younger guy.
- 13:49Was Mark better by him.
- 13:53David Long is his son, his praises.
- 13:57Other guys as well has sung his praises about
- 14:03the gifts that he were that he just got dropped on now.
- 14:06So you're getting as far as a locker room guy.
- 14:10Now, the antics on the field and the, you know, all eyes on me type thing
- 14:15that comes along with Jaylen Ramsey.
- 14:17But as far as locker room in that, in that locker room,
- 14:22in that in that secondary
- 14:26film role, he is going to be instrumental in it
- 14:30and helping any young guys that the Miami Dolphins have.
- 14:34So they got a good one.
- 14:37Yeah, that'll likely be pretty helpful for a guy like Noah Ibnogony.
- 14:43He's first round pick brought in a few years ago,
- 14:48has been relatively disappointing to this point in his career.
- 14:51However, he's still 23 years old, so there's room for him to improve.
- 14:55And maybe under the tutelage of a guy like Ramsey
- 14:59rather than a guy like Byron Jones will help him out a little more.
- 15:05I that's kind of similar actually to the Steelers situation as well.
- 15:11That's kind of the role I see them bringing Patrick Peterson into.
- 15:15And is also why I think the Steelers very clearly telegraphed today.
- 15:21That they will be drafting a cornerback in the first round.
- 15:26The good old Steelers always making it very, very easy for a
- 15:34a team that is looking at a particular position
- 15:37to go right in front of them.
- 15:39Hmm. The draft doesn't I that the Steelers had pretty much earmarked
- 15:46where their draft spot.
- 15:48And that doesn't happen as often as you think it should, because like
- 15:54basically all sides have point to pointed to the last several Steelers picks.
- 15:59You look at Najee Harris, you look at Kenny Pickett.
- 16:02I was ignoring them, but the signs were there.
- 16:05Even guys like Devin Bush.
- 16:07The last time I remember them getting aggressively jumped in front of was
- 16:11the the draft where the Bengals jumped ahead of us
- 16:15and drafted William Jackson, who we also cut today.
- 16:20But they drafted William Jackson, who at the time we really wanted.
- 16:25And they knew it.
- 16:27So the Steelers made it clear the Bengals knew it.
- 16:31They hopped in front of us.
- 16:32They didn't have a backup plan.
- 16:34They just drafted Artie Burns.
- 16:37And the rest was history.
- 16:40Basically was a pretty big disappointment.
- 16:43Yeah, with the guys that you just named.
- 16:48So you're talking about Pickett, Najee Harris.
- 16:51Those were, if you think about it.
- 16:54Nobody was really looking at those dudes like not.
- 16:58I'm not listening.
- 16:59Najee here is a good running back.
- 17:02Not as dynamic as well.
- 17:06We'll see what the offensive line is this year.
- 17:08But. Like this is that was probably where
- 17:13the spot he was going to go.
- 17:15And if he wasn't going to go there, he was probably going to go like four slides later.
- 17:19Yeah, yeah. It was kind of like, OK, well, you want to drop the quarterback
- 17:23because nobody was enamored.
- 17:25But like I said, the last couple the last couple of times when it was telegraphed
- 17:29to this point, yeah, you're right.
- 17:31So the Willis Jackson was a big deal.
- 17:35So I just hope at this point.
- 17:39They diversify their board.
- 17:43I had to see how it all worked out after today.
- 17:47That's kind of what I was hoping with the addition of Andy Weidl to the draft room.
- 17:53And based on today's moves, it just looks like more of the same.
- 17:58It looks like another short board.
- 18:01And that that's why my tenor for today is overall disappointment.
- 18:07Well, San Francisco also made some moves.
- 18:17Sticking with your Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah.
- 18:22Hard right signs a four year deal to go to the San Francisco 49ers.
- 18:28You know how much I hate this.
- 18:30Yeah, because a more physical
- 18:33dominant defensive line got way better
- 18:39with Hargrave's in the middle of this bad boy.
- 18:42Men like.
- 18:45Between Bosa, Armstead and Hargrave,
- 18:49you have three dudes on the Niners defensive line right now
- 18:53who are almost impossible to single team and can I write
- 18:59a kid Ken law is a really solid player as well.
- 19:03But I think some of the better guards in the league can isolate him.
- 19:07Armstead, Hargrave, Bosa are the type of guys you need to chip.
- 19:13You need to do something.
- 19:15And normally teams can kind of get away with the guarding
- 19:20Armstead and Bosa with only three linemen and not double teaming
- 19:24both giving one guy kind of double duty.
- 19:27But now with Hargrave on the other side locked into a one on one
- 19:32in that situation, it's going to be devastating to defenses.
- 19:37This is a huge addition to
- 19:41what last year was one of the best defenses in the sport,
- 19:46if not arguably the best and a team that no one beat the week after
- 19:53because of how bad they beat you up.
- 19:55Now they're just going to beat you up worse.
- 20:00This is Fred Warner approved.
- 20:04This deal is Fred Warner approved. Absolutely.
- 20:09He will not have anyone on him, so he'll just be free, free to roam.
- 20:15And that's all I that's all I ever wanted in my inner sea west
- 20:19as a round fan is this Fred Warner free, just not touch whatsoever.
- 20:26Free to just accelerate and explode.
- 20:29That's exactly what I wanted.
- 20:32Yeah. Now, I don't know how big a loss it is.
- 20:35And because he was kind of on his way out.
- 20:40But McGlinchey goes to Denver.
- 20:44He signs a big deal.
- 20:46So it was five years, like 87 mil.
- 20:51But 50 of it is guaranteed.
- 20:57But McKibbett for the San Francisco 49ers
- 21:01had already kind of because of his injury situation
- 21:04and already kind of served him.
- 21:05So I'm I'm kind of like, OK, we get younger and cheaper.
- 21:12Sweet. Yeah.
- 21:15Yeah, especially like.
- 21:20Man, the situation the Niners are in,
- 21:22I got to sing John Lynch's praises for a little bit.
- 21:26We've talked about how they've collected compensatory draft
- 21:32picks through the minority hiring program, bringing in several minority
- 21:38people in high positions and giving them autonomy
- 21:43to make decisions and showing how great they are.
- 21:46And then they go and get hired in other organizations.
- 21:49That's excellent. Today.
- 21:53Despite signing Javon Hargrave,
- 21:57the Niners are going to pick up yet another third round compensatory pick
- 22:03because they lost Mike McGlinchey and they lost Jimmy Garoppolo,
- 22:09who's going to cancel out the Hargrave addition in the compensatory formula.
- 22:14So despite becoming, I think, objectively a better team today,
- 22:19they also are picking up compensatory value.
- 22:22That is some legendary
- 22:26general manager movement by John Lynch.
- 22:31Twenty twenty four
- 22:33compensatory pick in that third round.
- 22:36We'll be looking back at the Jimmy Garoppolo
- 22:42to the Las Vegas Raiders to team up with his old buddy.
- 22:50His former quarterback coach and offensive coordinator, now head coach.
- 22:55What do you think of Garoppolo to Vegas?
- 23:00And is this. Is this better?
- 23:06Is this better than what they had?
- 23:10I think I have a hot take here.
- 23:14I'm a big Derek Carr fan, but I actually do believe this is better than what they had.
- 23:19Just because primary use can start with the fit between McDaniels and Garoppolo,
- 23:25which is obviously there.
- 23:27But the contract they got Jimmy on is incredibly friendly.
- 23:31He's making like twenty two million dollars a year.
- 23:35That's almost half what Daniel Jones is making.
- 23:38It's also a contract that a lot of it is guaranteed in year one
- 23:44with a little bit guaranteed in year two.
- 23:46So hypothetically, if this goes sour, it's not difficult to pivot out.
- 23:52I think the Raiders put themselves in the position
- 23:56that they are in right now.
- 23:58The Raiders put themselves in a much more flexible situation
- 24:02to kind of figure out what they have on this roster
- 24:06and also put people in place who better understand the system
- 24:10and the group that existed last year.
- 24:13I'm not convinced that this is necessarily some home run signing
- 24:18that's going to bring the Raiders to the next level or anything.
- 24:22I think that's the right move.
- 24:26My thoughts exactly two real key critical things to this.
- 24:32You bring somebody in who's definitely going to understand the verbiage
- 24:37that McDaniels is talking.
- 24:39Secondly, it's going to make it easier for everybody else
- 24:44because even with a year under their belt,
- 24:49they're barely a young team except in a couple positions.
- 24:53So offensive line, that'll help Garoppolo get them set.
- 24:59And it's just like having another coach on the field.
- 25:01And the other thing with Garoppolo is this,
- 25:03is that I understand that Carr was a dude, not locker room.
- 25:12People like Garoppolo, like really like him in the locker room.
- 25:19Especially young guys.
- 25:21And I think with this young team, that's
- 25:24going to resonate incredibly well.
- 25:27Jimmy Garoppolo, also well known for feeding tight ends
- 25:31to have big games, be it Gronkowski or Kittle.
- 25:34So this looks really promising for Darren Waller as well.
- 25:40A guy like Hunter Renfro, I think looks very analogous to the Julian
- 25:45Edelman slot receiver types that they've had in the past.
- 25:50So having a lot of these weapons that are going to be familiar to Garoppolo,
- 25:58even though he hasn't necessarily played with them before,
- 26:02I think is going to prove itself to be successful.
- 26:06And do not forget about the really athletic tackles they have.
- 26:11Those will be monumentally important in the screen game
- 26:14and the bubble screen game that they will employ this year
- 26:19with Garoppolo in that lineup.
- 26:21So we are looking for good things from Vegas.
- 26:25They got to be better than last year out of that.
- 26:28They just have to get that defense will be the key.
- 26:31What they can do with their picks and what have you.
- 26:37We'll see what goes down from that point.
- 26:40I don't know what they did.
- 26:42Defense has to get better.
- 26:43They need some dudes on that defense.
- 26:47Let's see, is is there another free agent deal that went down?
- 26:52We got to really kind of hit on.
- 26:53I mean, I know Carl went to to New Orleans, so we touch on that a little.
- 27:00I can't remember.
- 27:02Juwan Taylor to the Chiefs, I think is significant.
- 27:06It shows that they're moving on from Orlando Brown.
- 27:11He is currently, I would say, the biggest free agent still available
- 27:17and likely commanding somewhere in the range of 100 million dollars.
- 27:23I think Juwan Taylor is a straight up better player than Mike McGlinchey,
- 27:28especially like over the last year.
- 27:31He's proven himself to be very good in this sort of role.
- 27:36So the fact that the Chiefs got him for even cheaper than the contract
- 27:39McGlinchey signed, I think looks very good on their behalf.
- 27:45Once again, the Chiefs making another great move.
- 27:50That that runoff is just has aces all over.
- 27:56Just I mean, they just do really well,
- 28:00and they know when it's time to move on from a guy.
- 28:04And to be as as far as the money is concerned, to only pay this do like 20 mil.
- 28:11I mean, this is good.
- 28:12It was a good situation.
- 28:14There's a couple of the things I want to hit you with, Nico.
- 28:17We got Daniel Jones on a.
- 28:22On a contract for 40 million dollars.
- 28:26Mm hmm. So he's he's locked in.
- 28:32He is. What are we thinking?
- 28:38About Daniel Jones getting 40 mil.
- 28:42I can't believe it on some level.
- 28:46On another level.
- 28:50I understand kind of what the Giants were trying to do.
- 28:55I think this contract is as much a message to the locker room
- 29:00that we will pay you if you perform well here.
- 29:05I think contracts like that often get tendered.
- 29:10That being said, I think this has a ton of downside.
- 29:17I last year was by far Daniel Jones best year,
- 29:21and it's not as if he was the type of player that was going out there consistently,
- 29:26winning them games by himself or anything or making the difference.
- 29:31He's a good quarterback.
- 29:35And he functions well in this stable system.
- 29:38He can do kind of like a C to C plus job
- 29:46of approximating Josh Allen.
- 29:49So that's definitely the intrigue behind him.
- 29:54I just think this deal has limited upside
- 29:58and a potentially catastrophic downside.
- 30:04Well, when you see that Garoppolo is basically making like 18 mil a year
- 30:08with incentives to get get them to 25.
- 30:12And then you see Daniel Jones making 40.
- 30:15Yeah, so now here's my question.
- 30:19Daniel Jones is making 40.
- 30:23I understand that we are still waiting on Aaron Rodgers.
- 30:30Supposedly, we are a lot closer to him, to Aaron Rodgers becoming a jet.
- 30:39But we still do not have pen to paper,
- 30:42or do you want to go out with me,
- 30:46hit the yes box or whatever the kids do nowadays
- 30:53to say they're courting somebody?
- 30:55So anyway, I got some theories on why Aaron
- 31:02might actually I think Aaron might be holding this up.
- 31:05Would you like to hear that?
- 31:07Absolutely, absolutely. OK.
- 31:10One, it is a protest to.
- 31:16Who he thinks the new Batman should be.
- 31:21In the next DC comic movie.
- 31:26Fair enough, not a Robert Pattinson fan.
- 31:28No. OK.
- 31:30And he feels like if he's going to Gotham,
- 31:33his Batman should be a lot darker.
- 31:35Yeah, a lot more. Yeah, yeah.
- 31:40Pattinson, I think, does a better Bruce Wayne than he does Batman, for sure.
- 31:45OK. So these are some of the rumors that are out there.
- 31:50Mm hmm. The other rumor that is out there is that
- 31:58he has not received a list of socialite
- 32:03in the New York City area yet
- 32:07to see who's going to be his new fiance.
- 32:11OK, so he's waiting on that as well.
- 32:15And whatever starlet that's coming off,
- 32:19pretty little liars or White Lotus or whatever other show
- 32:26that might be real popular with the little 20 year olds.
- 32:30If they're living in the area, well, so we watch out.
- 32:34That's that seems to be his type. So. All right.
- 32:38So that also might be holding it up. OK.
- 32:42There was one other rumor that really caught my eye
- 32:45is that it looks like Aaron Rodgers would like.
- 32:53His tackle Bakiari to be the new Batman.
- 32:57His tackle Bakiari to go with him because the main on that guy,
- 33:04the flow of hair just calms Rogers down
- 33:08while he's in the pocket dissecting the defense.
- 33:12Thoughts on that?
- 33:13I see this this theory seems a little too related to football
- 33:19to truly be something Aaron Rodgers would be concerned with.
- 33:22But they based on the the behavior we've seen between him
- 33:29and Bakiari in the past, I think it's definitely possible.
- 33:33He needs a beer can crusher.
- 33:37The bromance is strong with those two, definitely.
- 33:41And they do have similar situations with hair.
- 33:47They sure do.
- 33:48Rodgers seems to be enamored with his Bakiari seems to just be
- 33:54pretty much the end of thought and cuts it with a fork.
- 33:59And I think Rodgers likes it that way.
- 34:02Another thing that I just thought of.
- 34:06He was asking if he would have full autonomy to go into.
- 34:14A Brooklyn police department.
- 34:18And have access to a guard room.
- 34:22They're still working on that.
- 34:24The mayor and all the city officials are working on that.
- 34:28OK, he needs he needs a place to store his Ivermectam.
- 34:32So that makes sense.
- 34:34This is this is true.
- 34:35All right.
- 34:36So, man, tell me what's going on, did I?
- 34:40What are we doing right now?
- 34:42I I've got no idea.
- 34:44The the box, the Bakiari thing you threw out there is not not that it's
- 34:54anywhere near reality, but that's like the only last thing that I can
- 35:00possibly logically think necessarily if it's on the Roger side, that maybe
- 35:05he wants someone to go with him, be it from Green Bay, be it someone in free agency.
- 35:10That he's trying to find a way for the Jets to add that player as well.
- 35:15Or the thing I think all Jets fans are terrified of is it Woody Johnson being
- 35:25unwilling to part with some level of draft compensation.
- 35:30And at this point, I'm kind of leaning in that direction.
- 35:35But I, I really hope that's not the case.
- 35:43To our New York fans who just had a heart attack that you might actually lose out on
- 35:48Rogers because of your owner.
- 35:53Listen, calm down, calm down.
- 35:57Brian Gooden-Kuss wants Rogers out as much as you want him to.
- 36:03As you want him, this deal will get done
- 36:08because the hatred between Gooden-Kuss and Rogers is well documented within me.
- 36:16CQPP in or earlier renditions of my thoughts on the good
- 36:25and cause Rogers relationship is pretty hilarious.
- 36:28But Rogers has given us so much good content over the years.
- 36:34But this one right here, like holding things up.
- 36:38Because also I think he's a linchpin to the guy that I want to talk about next.
- 36:43And I guess another conspiracy theory that I need to throw out there is Lamar Jackson.
- 36:50We got two prime time quarterbacks, Nico, that are holding up the works right now on
- 36:57what our season is going to look like and how we're going to have to somehow.
- 37:06Virtually spoon each other when these two, these two quarterbacks are in different
- 37:10uniforms.
- 37:11Yeah, I, man, I don't know necessarily what's going on with this Lamar Jackson
- 37:18situation.
- 37:19I think it's relevant to talk about the deadline for teams to actually start
- 37:24negotiating with him being in two days rather than today.
- 37:29But we've seen all these reports of teams that are not in the Lamar Jackson chase
- 37:36at this point.
- 37:37And to me, it seems like gamesmanship more than anything.
- 37:44It seems like teams are being unwilling to be the first to put that offer on the
- 37:50table so another team can just come by and beat it and drive up the price.
- 37:54Well, there is talk of collusion.
- 37:59That's the word I wanted to get to, because that were right there.
- 38:05And this podcast will be very, very careful.
- 38:09Alleged collusion.
- 38:12Because.
- 38:15Who knows who hears this?
- 38:19Who knows?
- 38:20So I do want to talk about that a little bit.
- 38:24Yeah.
- 38:27You tell me.
- 38:30Is it hard to get a franchise quarterback?
- 38:34A real difference maker, Nico, in this.
- 38:37How many we got?
- 38:39I think we're sitting at five right now.
- 38:43People can.
- 38:45And we got we got we got my homes.
- 38:52Burrow.
- 38:53Yes.
- 38:54We got are we throwing Herbert in there?
- 38:57I'm not throwing Herbert in.
- 38:59OK, we got Hertz.
- 39:02Yes, we do.
- 39:04We got Lamar.
- 39:06We do.
- 39:06And Josh Allen is.
- 39:08Oh, yeah.
- 39:08Josh Allen.
- 39:09OK, so those are the quarterbacks that Nico thinks, hey, if the defense stinks
- 39:15today or if we turn the ball over a couple of times or our special teams
- 39:21fumbles ball in our own territory and we're behind the eight ball, our QB one
- 39:28is going to bring us back.
- 39:30So those names again are Burrow, my homes, Allen, Hertz and Lamar Jackson.
- 39:37So other franchises send your hate tweets to at Nico FRPC.
- 39:45And I will say that again.
- 39:46That is at Nico FRPC.
- 39:50And if you would like to send tweets to me, then I will retweet and send to Nico
- 39:57that is at front runner PC.
- 40:00Yes, sir.
- 40:01But just so you know, I pretty much agree with what you just said.
- 40:06The only other guy that I would throw kind of in there, but he hasn't done it yet.
- 40:12It's probably Herbert.
- 40:14I like Lawrence trajectory, but I want to see it again, you know?
- 40:21And you know how I feel about Dak and Kurt?
- 40:24Oh, yeah, they're nowhere near this conversation.
- 40:27And you know how I feel about Garoppolo?
- 40:30Oh, and he's even further.
- 40:32Yeah.
- 40:32So these are the guys.
- 40:36Aaron Rodgers, I think, is another one that people might talk about on the periphery.
- 40:41There I think he's been that guy in the past.
- 40:45He can still win you regular season games.
- 40:49Pray to God you don't come up against the Niners in the playoffs or anything like
- 40:52that, because there there are certain situations where Aaron Rodgers has not
- 40:58performed to his standard.
- 41:00In the playoffs, that's why he's going to the AFC.
- 41:04He trying to get away from the Niners.
- 41:06He better.
- 41:07Yeah.
- 41:08Boy, you might see him in the Super Bowl.
- 41:11Maybe at that point, he found the starlet in New York that will give him the
- 41:17superpowers that he needs to defeat the mighty 49ers.
- 41:22OK, but here's the thing.
- 41:25So we don't have a lot of those guys.
- 41:26It's very smart.
- 41:28Correct.
- 41:28Incredibly sparse.
- 41:30Why do you let them buy you let one walk and also let one walk at like 25, 26 years of age?
- 41:37I have absolutely no idea what the Ravens are doing.
- 41:41I I'm shocked they didn't pay Lamar two years ago, to be honest, that we got to this
- 41:49point in the first place.
- 41:51This guy has won M.B.P.s for your franchise and you've hamstrung him.
- 41:55The entire time you've put him with the same offensive coordinator running the same
- 42:01broken schemes that had been solved in his rookie year and he Colin Kaepernick.
- 42:08Yeah, that's that's all Greg Roman ever did.
- 42:12And they brought in the occasional wide receiver, but they haven't brought in
- 42:19necessarily the greatest ones, as Eric DeCosta said.
- 42:26However, as Rashad Bateman said, they haven't put the receivers in position to be
- 42:31successful either.
- 42:33So it's really difficult to know what's wrong.
- 42:38But it seems like there might be something a little rotten at the core in this
- 42:42organization.
- 42:44Two things I just want to throw out there.
- 42:46One, the man has won an MVP to that man has been to multiple AFC championship
- 42:54games, multiple.
- 42:57All right.
- 42:58You know, the guys who can say that, Nico, that are in the league.
- 43:04Not that there's only a couple.
- 43:07Yeah, Lamar or him in.
- 43:09Sorry, him in Pat.
- 43:11I guess Mr.
- 43:13Brady's gone.
- 43:14Well, no, the other guy, too, is Burrow.
- 43:18Oh, Burrow, Burrow, those three, three, three, those three guys.
- 43:22Yeah.
- 43:23Are the only guys that have been to multiple at this point.
- 43:28So your guy is giving you basically to the dance.
- 43:34Yeah.
- 43:36With very little help.
- 43:38Okay. And you put the tag on him where he could walk.
- 43:47I have a lot of questions that need to be answered.
- 43:53Well, I don't know if Nico can answer those for me.
- 43:57One.
- 44:01I have this question.
- 44:02Do they like Lamar Jackson?
- 44:05Do the Baltimore Ravens organization, do they like him and want him to continue
- 44:13to be their quarterback?
- 44:15If they do, they sure have a hell of a way of showing it because I, I'm not
- 44:20getting that impression.
- 44:21And then my question is, what's the, what's plan A or plan B?
- 44:39I, I've got absolutely no idea at this point.
- 44:44I don't think they're going to be a team that goes into the draft this year
- 44:51with the designs on finding their next quarterback.
- 44:55Their team as a whole, especially defensively is also too good to bottom
- 45:02out next year for a Caleb Williams type draft pick.
- 45:08I think their hope has to be that the Lamar team that they eventually end up
- 45:17dealing with has a quarterback that they can then get in return.
- 45:23As I've pointed out guys like Tua and Mack Jones, that they might have some
- 45:28level of interest in assuming Lamar ends up going to one of those teams.
- 45:34But hypothetically, if it's another situation like Tampa Bay, where there's
- 45:40no quarterback in place, it's going to be rough sliding for the Ravens at this
- 45:47point.
- 45:47They will have the draft equity they get for Lamar.
- 45:53So there can be a situation where hypothetically they could trade up, but
- 45:59likely whatever team is at first overall, this can be very hesitant to give away a
- 46:04player like Caleb Williams.
- 46:08All right.
- 46:09So this is, this is my thought.
- 46:13Tell me if I'm wrong.
- 46:14Tell me if I'm on the right path or just tell me that I'm absolutely out of my
- 46:20freaking mind.
- 46:21All right.
- 46:24We have long thought that Lamar Jackson wasn't going to play for the Baltimore
- 46:29Ravens.
- 46:29We've been on this for months, basically.
- 46:32Um, with that being said, their next moves are let's build the team.
- 46:40Let's let's put all the stuff we need.
- 46:43Like the defense is good.
- 46:45Where can we get better at the defense?
- 46:47Do we have a special pass rusher?
- 46:51Do we have the subsequent subsequent corners to do what we need to do?
- 46:57Can we upgrade the weapons for our next quarterback, build the team and then
- 47:05allow the quarterback aid to either come to you or B you go get whoever is under
- 47:12Shannon hand in San Francisco and you say, Hey, you come and be our offensive
- 47:21coordinator consultant or whatever and build the offense and you can probably
- 47:30get by with Brock Purdy's and the Garocolo's of the works.
- 47:34Yeah, I think I think Todd Monk and the guy they, they did bring in this off
- 47:40season to be the new offensive coordinator is a interesting hire at the very least.
- 47:47He's had success in the league before he's had some less successful times, but
- 47:53I think it's going to result in a different offense that involves more West
- 47:58coast concepts and more of a vertical passing game than what we've seen from
- 48:04them in recent years, especially you can look at the offense at Georgia.
- 48:10The last two years to see the kind of idea of what we're looking at.
- 48:16So I think at least on that side, they're currently moving in the right direction.
- 48:25It just feels a little too late to me.
- 48:30Well, this saga continues and will obviously stay on it.
- 48:33If there is a move with Rogers and or Lamar, I am sure that
- 48:39there will be an emergency podcast for that, because when you are talking about
- 48:44two franchise difference makers, at least Rogers, a couple of years ago, we want
- 48:52to throw last year away because of the injury concern and his lack of his
- 48:59binky Devante Adams, not being there.
- 49:04We want to throw that away and just kind of say, Hey, when he had his
- 49:07black ones, he was held with healthy.
- 49:10He was an MVP candidate actually wanted.
- 49:12So therefore he's what a year removed from an MVP.
- 49:18Yeah.
- 49:20Yeah.
- 49:20Right.
- 49:21So I can see two years removed, I think.
- 49:25Yeah.
- 49:26He's one year.
- 49:28Oh, he wanted to, he wanted to go.
- 49:31Yeah.
- 49:31Back to back.
- 49:32Yeah.
- 49:32Yeah.
- 49:32So I can see why people can talk themselves into that.
- 49:40Uh, the Lamar thing is going to be fascinating because once these teams
- 49:45stop, uh, BSing, uh, the Baltimore Ravens talking about their lack of interest
- 49:50in a MVP caliber, uh, ceiling and at the, at the very least, uh, playoff every
- 50:03year floor guy, uh, I don't, I don't, I don't see where that would be a problem.
- 50:11Taking two draft picks and saying, here you go.
- 50:15Yeah.
- 50:15So I, I think the best, most recent example you can find of my belief that
- 50:25teams are kind of playing cat and mouse and rather than colluding that scary
- 50:30word is the Deshaun Watson situation that just happened.
- 50:36Um, the teams were just about every team said the same thing that no way we'd
- 50:44ever consider going for Deshaun Watson.
- 50:48Um, and then after the trade finally happens, all these reports start coming
- 50:53out of these different offers that existed from all different organizations.
- 50:57Some of the same organizations that are saying they're not going
- 51:00to trade for Lamar today.
- 51:02So that weirdly has me hopeful.
- 51:07It's just weird to say Deshaun Watson and hopeful in the same sentence, but
- 51:11it has me hopeful that this Lamar situation is more of antics and also
- 51:17difficulty with him not having an agent rather than some nefarious collusion situation.
- 51:27You know what I think should happen right now with Lamar Jackson, because
- 51:32we are in the legal tampering period.
- 51:34Right.
- 51:35Uh, not for him, not for him to couple of days, right?
- 51:38March 15th.
- 51:3915th.
- 51:40Yeah.
- 51:40Two days from my boy.
- 51:44Don't care about this.
- 51:45So buckle up.
- 51:48There's a gentleman who has been skirting the rules for a long period of time.
- 51:53He has been a pirate.
- 51:56He is being a, a gangster.
- 52:00He's going to trailblazer for a long period of time.
- 52:02He is in post his will on the NFL.
- 52:06And now he has seen himself and seen his mortality and has decided I need to go all in.
- 52:17He's talking to him right now.
- 52:20Bill Belichick is talking to Lamar Jackson right now talking to the fam because this
- 52:27is like what Bill would like to do.
- 52:29He don't want to talk to no agents.
- 52:31He don't want to talk to whoever your emissary is, your publicist.
- 52:41Lamar, what's up?
- 52:44You like to wear sunglasses on sideline.
- 52:46I can do that.
- 52:48I can do that with you.
- 52:51So if there was anybody who could get it done with the family members, give me
- 52:57old school Bill Belichick to get this deal done.
- 53:05Yeah.
- 53:06I, when you were first talking about someone who's seeing his mortality and Ben, uh,
- 53:15moving around behind the scenes a little bit, I was worried we were going to move
- 53:19in the Jerry Jones direction.
- 53:21Oh, no, no, no.
- 53:22He's a clown.
- 53:22Yeah.
- 53:23Yeah.
- 53:23Yeah.
- 53:23I'm sorry.
- 53:24Yeah, I know.
- 53:25Shout out to my Dallas fans, the Cowboys fans.
- 53:28Listen, I love you guys.
- 53:30There, your, your fan base along with Buffalo, along with Pittsburgh and a
- 53:35couple of others out there are really, really good fan bases.
- 53:40I'm just really sad for you that your owner is Jerry Jones.
- 53:45So I'll leave it at that.
- 53:47I have more on Jerry Jones.
- 53:49He's going to be my new, he's going to be my new Brian Gooden, cause, uh, Nico
- 53:54this year, just so you know, so buckle up for a lot of Jerry Jones content.
- 53:59Oh, just like my guy, Tate Frazier has a thing for coach K.
- 54:05Jerry Jones is now my new guy.
- 54:07Oh no.
- 54:08He's my guy that I will find and I will find many away and I will not do it like
- 54:16Steven and just yell and whatever it will be smart, but it's going to be funny.
- 54:21So I'm here for it.
- 54:24Um, but back to what you, you said previously about, uh, Lamar and Bill, I
- 54:33I'd be hesitant to cross the tampering lines right now, specifically as Bill
- 54:39Belichick with the history that happened with the Patriots organization and then
- 54:48with the team in your division, the Miami dolphins and what they tried to go around
- 54:53and do with Tom Brady, I I'd be very cautious, but on some level, I think the
- 55:00floodgates are going to open approximately like 30 hours from now.
- 55:07So when something like that happens, I think me more than most, I see the
- 55:14Patriots in that conversation just so happens that Bill has a boat.
- 55:19He's just floating down to Hollywood, Florida, but didn't work for Jeff Ross.
- 55:24Well, hold on.
- 55:25No, no, no, no, no, no.
- 55:25It's different for Jeff because I'm just saying, listen, he doesn't have to
- 55:31have Lamar on the boat.
- 55:32He can have parents, they can go out fishing, you know, today, they can go
- 55:38out fishing today because that's a, that's called a, uh, that's called a
- 55:42grown person's leisure activity.
- 55:45That is not called tampering at all.
- 55:48I mean, Bill, Bill got a first round pick taken away from him for some
- 55:55footballs that got deflated by the environment.
- 55:58I do not guess to.
- 56:01He do not care, dog.
- 56:03He just don't.
- 56:04He's going to lose this whole draft.
- 56:06You don't care, man.
- 56:07That dude does not care, bro.
- 56:09I'm just telling you, he doesn't care.
- 56:12I'm if he, if it comes out that that's the dude that is hiding away from
- 56:19for Lamar Jackson and then they end up getting him, I will be very interested
- 56:28in the backstory of how that relationship all goes down because I'm going to tell
- 56:34you right now, Lamar, you're going to be the one that's going to get the
- 56:37most down because I'm going to tell you right now, Lamar and Belichick talk on
- 56:41the field prior to every game.
- 56:44Yeah.
- 56:45He's like, you know, he's the only coach.
- 56:47He's like, you know, I can't do that.
- 56:49Oh man.
- 56:51I don't know if Lamar is that type of dude.
- 56:53He's just, he's cerebral and I think their personalities would match mesh
- 56:58pretty well as I talked about previously.
- 57:02Yeah.
- 57:03It will be interesting to see how that all flows out and, uh, one quick
- 57:08note on the draft as it starts to get closer and now we're starting to see
- 57:14moves being made and, uh, you know, the draft board is becoming more and more
- 57:19clear, I think there'll be a couple more moves that we'll see first rounders
- 57:22be moved before the draft, uh, probably the next couple of days here, but
- 57:28I'm starting to think that somebody is going to end up with a premium
- 57:39defensive star like at six and seven.
- 57:47Yeah, there there's potential.
- 57:49It seems like a deeper class for those types of dudes.
- 57:53It's just unfortunately pretty weak in the middle.
- 57:58There is no safety is middle linebackers defensive tackles really.
- 58:04Well, if you're getting probably the best player in the draft at six or at
- 58:10least in top two, because the quarterback is pushing up, this is working out good
- 58:18for your teams that are not necessarily looking for a quarterback.
- 58:23And so, I mean, is Detroit not looking for quarterback?
- 58:28I do.
- 58:29They meant they might.
- 58:30I don't know if they're going for it this year though.
- 58:33I think they'll, they'll ride another season.
- 58:38Okay.
- 58:38I'm going to ask them here.
- 58:40Yeah.
- 58:41Can our fans and our listeners in Detroit, get us up at front runner PC at front
- 58:46runner PC or at Nico FRPC and ask me, just let me know, do you not want to be part
- 58:56of the Lamar Jackson?
- 58:59Oh, I think they'd be very interested if that came about, if he had interest in
- 59:06going to Detroit, I think they'd be incredibly interested, but I just, I more
- 59:14so think the, the lines just aren't in a position to necessarily draft a
- 59:20quarterback this year.
- 59:21If something like Lamar comes around or another quarterback moves that they're
- 59:28intrigued by, I could, I could definitely see them throwing their hat in the ring.
- 59:33Oh yeah.
- 59:33That's the only one that I will want them to go after is Lamar.
- 59:37I wouldn't want them to touch this draft, this, this particular draft class.
- 59:41I wouldn't want them to wait till next year.
- 59:43Yeah.
- 59:43Maybe our guy, Hendon Hooker in round two, but otherwise they can stay away.
- 59:51I love him.
- 59:52Then hooker.
- 59:53He is honestly my favorite quarterback in this draft class.
- 59:58Is that crazy?
- 59:59You think he's the best one of the group?
- 1:00:01No, he's my favorite.
- 1:00:03Oh, that's, I, I, that's not crazy at all.
- 1:00:09I, mine might be Anthony Richardson because of the few splash plays here and there,
- 1:00:14but Hendon Hooker is probably a, a close second.
- 1:00:19You know, like I tell you all the time, how much I care, how much I like think
- 1:00:24of you, I, I don't know how much I love your mind and what have you, but every
- 1:00:31time you say something like James Harden is awesome and he's such a good citizen
- 1:00:37or you tell me that I really love the few splash plays by Anthony Richardson.
- 1:00:43I go like this for real Nico, for real.
- 1:00:47It's eye candy, bro.
- 1:00:48The eye candy we going with the eye candy, bro.
- 1:00:51Well, it's just all traits with Anthony Richardson and the splash plays that
- 1:00:57happen are a lot of fun to watch.
- 1:01:00I that's, that's why I kind of had trended more towards the, towards the
- 1:01:05trend to more, more towards the favorite than I think he's necessarily the best.
- 1:01:11That being said, if I'm near the top of the draft this year and you're asking me
- 1:01:17to roll a dice on one of these quarterbacks, I'm probably more likely to
- 1:01:21roll it with Will Levesse or Anthony Richardson and then Bryce Younger, CJ Stroup.
- 1:01:32All right.
- 1:01:32Well, I hope you have a really good plan for Richardson because he shouldn't
- 1:01:38touch the field first year.
- 1:01:40Yeah, probably.
- 1:01:41Not should not touch the field at all.
- 1:01:44I, I, I think that's probably true with more quarterbacks than we realized.
- 1:01:52Yeah.
- 1:01:52But with him, especially, yeah, especially.
- 1:01:57And I would get mentors on the ground with him.
- 1:02:02Like I would go back and I would go grab your Michael Vicks or
- 1:02:08whatever resonates with him and say, okay, this is your guy.
- 1:02:16He is now your guru.
- 1:02:18He is in your phone.
- 1:02:20Y'all going to FaceTime, you know, saying you're going to have like little meetings
- 1:02:25with him, like every four weeks and all of that, I need to do everything in my
- 1:02:30power to set this kid up for success with, uh, because I, I, I just look at
- 1:02:39him and go, he's raw and we are going to need time.
- 1:02:45Yeah, definitely.
- 1:02:48He's, he's incredibly raw.
- 1:02:50I just, with how unpredictable drafting quarterbacks is generally, I like to
- 1:02:56look at the things on the table that are factual about players and he is factually
- 1:03:05a freak athlete, so that makes me more interested in rolling the dice.
- 1:03:11He's definitely, I would say fourth of the four, uh,
- 1:03:18fourth of the four guys everyone's talking about in this class in terms
- 1:03:23of football acumen, but everything else he can do, I, that's the type of guy
- 1:03:32I just like to go after.
- 1:03:37Or footwork can't read the defense.
- 1:03:41Very remedial, offensive concepts that he can grasp at this present time.
- 1:03:47Those are all three things.
- 1:03:49Oh, and he's a enamored, enamored with his arm.
- 1:03:54You're watching tape on your boy, by the way, cause you were like talking to me.
- 1:04:00Well, this is your guy.
- 1:04:01And I was sitting there thinking, let me, let me go ahead and put some tape on.
- 1:04:06Yeah, a lot of throws where he is in love with that cannon.
- 1:04:14Yeah.
- 1:04:15On his right shoulder.
- 1:04:17Yep.
- 1:04:17That's why he needs to sit for a year.
- 1:04:22And he won't act.
- 1:04:25That might be the type of thing you, you learn more on the field.
- 1:04:29I think there's a lot of bad habits that are in his game though, that
- 1:04:35need to be removed.
- 1:04:37And generally that's best done.
- 1:04:41Off the field with a year of observation.
- 1:04:44So I, maybe they can do kind of a similar thing to what the Niners
- 1:04:51did in year one with Trey Lance, where they brought him in for a few plays
- 1:04:55here and there and had packages.
- 1:04:58But I, I'd like to see him sit on the bench to start.
- 1:05:03Me as well, me as well.
- 1:05:06My, my only thing with him is this is that for the, for the people who are
- 1:05:12really in love with Anthony Richardson, who are following this podcast, here
- 1:05:18is his light floor, like he could be like James Winston, early interceptions guy.
- 1:05:31Oh man.
- 1:05:32I think this dude could be that with athleticism, like he can be super
- 1:05:39athletic, get you a hundred yards, get you 250 passing yards.
- 1:05:47And on that third and six in the fourth quarter, when you need him to make a
- 1:05:52play, he will fall in love with his arm and he will go into double, double
- 1:05:57coverage and they will get picked off and you will go, damn, that game was
- 1:06:02entertaining.
- 1:06:03He did a lot of great things.
- 1:06:06Oh, we were so close to victory.
- 1:06:08It'll be cool.
- 1:06:09The first year, you know, when it won't be cool, started the third year
- 1:06:17when he's still doing it.
- 1:06:19That's why you got to sit here for a year.
- 1:06:22That's just the hope that you can work that kind of stuff out.
- 1:06:26You mentioned the floor being James Winston.
- 1:06:29I think on that case, I'm probably even lower.
- 1:06:33I think the floor is probably straight up, not an NFL player.
- 1:06:39I think the full, the floor is going to say, I didn't want to say what I actually
- 1:06:43thought because when I actually thought I shades of Jamar Russell, man.
- 1:06:51Well, yeah, it is a Jamar, but different things.
- 1:06:54It is a Jamar, but different in one way, in one way.
- 1:06:59Jamar didn't want to work.
- 1:07:02Yes.
- 1:07:02He wants to work and he likes football.
- 1:07:05He likes football.
- 1:07:06Yeah.
- 1:07:07But what I'm saying is the, the mental part of the game and the
- 1:07:14disfascination with his arm.
- 1:07:18He loves that.
- 1:07:19That loves it.
- 1:07:21That Jamar Russell is actually perfect example of the final reason.
- 1:07:26I think I'm currently leaning more towards the traits guys than anything else.
- 1:07:34I look at a guy like Jamar Russell and drafting him obvious
- 1:07:41catastrophe for the writers.
- 1:07:43No doubt about that.
- 1:07:44However, you knew pretty quickly with the player like Jamar Russell
- 1:07:50that it wasn't going to work.
- 1:07:53I would rather draft a guy like that where it burns out than a guy like
- 1:07:58hypothetically, Daniel Jones, Joe Flacco, though he did win a Superbowl.
- 1:08:05The guys who it's year five and you're still not sure that you're going to
- 1:08:12win a Superbowl and you're still not sure that's a good way to end up in purgatory.
- 1:08:19But see, that's the problem of the front office at that point, because
- 1:08:25you should know by year three, what that guy is and you can go, okay, let's
- 1:08:30augment, he's not franchise, different maker guy, he's high end game manager
- 1:08:37guy, and we need to put the stuff around him.
- 1:08:40Yeah.
- 1:08:40We need to put the stuff around him.
- 1:08:42So, but it's often hard because quarterbacks are difficult evaluation.
- 1:08:50Like example of your team with Jared Goff.
- 1:08:54Jared Goff played a lot of successful seasons, ended up getting that big
- 1:08:59contract that was bigger than what he deserved, but it was a situation that
- 1:09:06kind of made the Rams feel like they had to pay him the money.
- 1:09:11And I just, I don't want to end up in a spot where I'm giving a hundred
- 1:09:19million dollars to an Andy Dalton type.
- 1:09:23I'd rather be in a situation where two years after I make a selection, I can
- 1:09:28just wash my hands and move forward and know that I'm looking for another
- 1:09:32quarterback.
- 1:09:33Okay.
- 1:09:34Now you just said something really hypothetical, but I'm going to
- 1:09:38hit you with the NFL reality unless you are Ted Thompson or, uh, who doesn't
- 1:09:48fire their GMs, Guten Cusco or a Green Bay or a Piscoward for an office that
- 1:09:56never gets fired.
- 1:09:58Yeah.
- 1:09:59Uh, Ballard in Indianapolis seems pretty and Roseman in Philadelphia.
- 1:10:06Yeah.
- 1:10:06Yes, and these guys do not have that type of job security where I can blow out a
- 1:10:13quarterback after year two.
- 1:10:15Oh, guess what?
- 1:10:16We made a mistake on that one.
- 1:10:18You know what will happen this time?
- 1:10:19We won't make the same mistake this time.
- 1:10:22Yeah.
- 1:10:23That GM doesn't get that second chance.
- 1:10:26That's that's true.
- 1:10:27And as a general manager, I can definitely understand making the decision for job
- 1:10:34preservation.
- 1:10:35Um, but just as a fan, as myself, I personally gravitate more towards those
- 1:10:44style of players now, just because I'd rather have those guys on my team a
- 1:10:51little bit, irregardless of my front office.
- 1:10:54It also might be telling to you how your front office handles the situation like
- 1:11:02that might be a better way to quickly evaluate whether or not you need to make a
- 1:11:06change in the front office.
- 1:11:08So I, I'm viewing that, I think a little bit more from a fan's perspective than
- 1:11:14necessarily a team perspective.
- 1:11:18No, great.
- 1:11:19I mean, I'm glad we, that we hammered that down because obviously the things
- 1:11:24that we want to make sure is like, we're just trying to give a focus of like a
- 1:11:27front office and then also as a fan, like we want you guys to enjoy these guys,
- 1:11:33but we also want to give you clear indication.
- 1:11:36If you are a fan of a team and this guy ends up on your squad, the best case
- 1:11:43scenario, as far as what we would think his development would be that would end
- 1:11:49up to be the most fruitful in the end for your enjoyment.
- 1:11:54Am I pretty much right on that?
- 1:11:55Nico?
- 1:11:56Yeah.
- 1:11:56Yeah.
- 1:11:57I couldn't agree more.
- 1:11:58I think that's, that's a great way of putting it for sure.
- 1:12:00That's, uh, what I'd like to, to try and provide people just, uh, different
- 1:12:08perspectives to look introspectively at their own fandom and their own team.
- 1:12:15And the last thing that we want to leave the folks today with is that, well, you
- 1:12:19got a black quarterback spotlight and the guy that I want to give spotlight to
- 1:12:25spotlight to today is none other than Bryce Young because I was hard on him
- 1:12:35last week.
- 1:12:37I will continue to be hard on him this week because he is small, but the one
- 1:12:43thing that you cannot deny that dude has got it done everywhere he's gone.
- 1:12:52And the one thing that you cannot teach is his ability to compute what goes on.
- 1:13:02At the pace that he does his processor in his head is faster than everybody
- 1:13:08else's in this draft.
- 1:13:10As far as the quarter, miles faster.
- 1:13:13Yeah.
- 1:13:13He, he's an incredibly talented young man.
- 1:13:16I, I often feel guilty for not having him hire on my quarterback list, because
- 1:13:25if you just observe the talent, it's clear he's far and away the best
- 1:13:30quarterback in this class.
- 1:13:32It's just that saying that Tomlin is that sticks in my head.
- 1:13:38If you start making exceptions, pretty soon you'll have a team full of exceptions.
- 1:13:43I, I, he's too slight for me.
- 1:13:47I was all on board the Russell Wilson of it all, but Russell Wilson was a stocky
- 1:13:53dude with mammoth hands and arms.
- 1:13:58Bryce Young just is a slight guy overall.
- 1:14:02I he's he's got all the talent in the world and arm strength.
- 1:14:07That's honestly shocking out of someone his size.
- 1:14:10So I, I really support him as a player and I pray he's successful when he gets
- 1:14:17in the league because he is so fun to watch.
- 1:14:19I just don't know if that's the guy I would necessarily roll my dice with.
- 1:14:26If you're a team looking to draft him, your offensive line has to be big physical
- 1:14:33and those guys have to be loyal.
- 1:14:37Like you have to do like a deep dive on your psychological profiles, on
- 1:14:44your offense alignment, do they have like a propensity to be like a savior,
- 1:14:54to be like a protector or whatever.
- 1:14:58You got to have those guys protecting him because.
- 1:15:02Every once in a while, he's going to get hit and those guys are huge
- 1:15:06that are going to hit him.
- 1:15:08So he has to have a really good offensive line.
- 1:15:14If he's coming into this league, it would also probably behoove you to have a good
- 1:15:20slot receiver and a good idea.
- 1:15:23Yeah, those things should be like there.
- 1:15:27Day one, he gets there, especially interior offensive line, because the way
- 1:15:33he plays, he doesn't, a lot of quarterbacks nowadays tend to move the
- 1:15:40backwards out of the pocket and tend towards rolling out and creating space in that way.
- 1:15:47Bryce Young steps up in the pocket, like every time.
- 1:15:50He steps up in the pocket, like a six foot four quarterback, you would think.
- 1:15:54He would six foot four.
- 1:15:56He does.
- 1:15:57He plays that way and it's, it's beautiful to watch.
- 1:16:01So that interior offensive line needs to be specifically strong to be able
- 1:16:07to highlight things like that.
- 1:16:09And also it can be too tall because you got to be able to be able to be
- 1:16:15able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able
- 1:16:19to be able to be able, because you've got to be worried about him seeing
- 1:16:23over them on some level.
- 1:16:25So six, seven center, six, five guards might not be the right
- 1:16:32guys to go after necessarily.
- 1:16:35I'd I obviously that wouldn't write someone off my draft board, but it's
- 1:16:40something I'd be looking into if I'm drafting with Bryce Young in mind.
- 1:16:45He didn't seem to have a problem at Alabama and they have a pretty watch that NFL
- 1:16:51Often as far as I
- 1:16:53They they definitely do but in the NFL there's a lot more of jumping arms up that whole
- 1:17:01Congestion in the pocket that is just gonna be difficult for him
- 1:17:05So I think a taller offensive line mate might make it
- 1:17:10Difficult for him to make those quick split second reads necessarily when defensive lineman are trying to swap the balls
- 1:17:18The one thing I will say is that
- 1:17:22He has a whip like
- 1:17:24finish to his
- 1:17:26Throwing delivery. Yeah, it's it looks like a pitcher almost the way he's able to flex the arm and
- 1:17:34And then get the extension out, but he also has different platforms that he can throw it from
- 1:17:42For what I'm
- 1:17:44I've done a little digging
- 1:17:47That's very true, you know, well he seems to be able to throw from different platforms
- 1:17:53He's very
- 1:17:55Very under control in the pocket if he gets a little pressure. It's not like oh, I'm I'm so scared. No, no, all right
- 1:18:02Mm-hmm. He's not flappable in that way. Yeah, he's brave as hell
- 1:18:11Yeah, yeah, I am I lost my train of thought there I wasn't sure the direction I'm going but Bryce Young is definitely
- 1:18:19Someone who deserves our acknowledgement and someone who we're both looking forward to supporting as soon as he gets into the league
- 1:18:27Routing for the kid. I'm rooting for the science experiment to work if
- 1:18:32If I had to say of the quarterbacks
- 1:18:36I'll probably
- 1:18:40I'll probably have them
- 1:18:44three
- 1:18:47If each Stroud
- 1:18:49No, I got him to why am I saying that?
- 1:18:52Stroud young Levis Richard
- 1:18:55No, am I am I flip-flopping on this? Yeah, I am flip-flopping
- 1:19:00It'll be Stroud Levis young Dan Richardson
- 1:19:04And the only reason for young is the height and the and the slender bill. That's it
- 1:19:10Because everything else screams to me
- 1:19:14franchise quarterback
- 1:19:17everything so
- 1:19:19I just wish the kid well, I know he's gonna get drafted high. I can't wait to see it
- 1:19:24I can't wait to experience what this is gonna look like
- 1:19:28What kind of offense?
- 1:19:30is going to be deployed with him in it and
- 1:19:34You're right the interior offensive line
- 1:19:38As long as he's in the league and whatever franchise does
- 1:19:42Take the gamble. They've got to be able to do that
- 1:19:45Whatever franchise does uh take the gamble. They will always have to invest
- 1:19:51In the interior offensive line. It is an absolute must you cannot short
- 1:19:56That situation ever not one year
- 1:20:00And you also have to have good backups in that
- 1:20:03definitely the
- 1:20:05Uh year the saints won the super bowl with drew breeze the comparable height size guy they had
- 1:20:11Arguably the best offensive line in the sport especially on the interior. So
- 1:20:16it's
- 1:20:18Something that we've seen happen before and I think it's going to be
- 1:20:22Very relevant to Bryce
- 1:20:25All right, is there anything else that we need to hit today?
- 1:20:29Nico, we know we don't have any news on rogers. We can't have any news on lamar jackson. Is there anybody?
- 1:20:38that you're just
- 1:20:40Enamored with the name and where they're going to go
- 1:20:44That is still out there
- 1:20:46Oh no one no one's still out there necessarily who immediately comes to mind orlando brown perhaps
- 1:20:53He's he's probably the big name that we're going to need to see switch locations
- 1:20:59I'm really interested to see what kind of teams will want to bring him in
- 1:21:04um
- 1:21:05if
- 1:21:06if there might be a chance that he could look into the lamar team as well because I know they get along
- 1:21:14well
- 1:21:15um, and apparently
- 1:21:19The chiefs haven't waved off the idea of bringing him back. So I guess we're gonna have to
- 1:21:25Wait and see with that one. It seems a little weird after the joan taylor edition today
- 1:21:31um
- 1:21:33Um, however one guy we haven't touched on who did actually sign today and I think
- 1:21:38Is relevant, uh, is jesse bates signing in atlanta
- 1:21:43He that's one of the worst secondaries defensive outside of a strong number one corner in aj torrell
- 1:21:51One of the worst secondaries in the sport adding a guy of that caliber. I think is going to be huge
- 1:21:57And the bangles today losing both safeties jesse bates and uh bond bell is
- 1:22:03Going to make an impact on their team for sure
- 1:22:08The one thing with bates is that uh, he can get deeped a lot and you can count and pick on him
- 1:22:15Uh when he can he allow his physicality?
- 1:22:20to just
- 1:22:22Just be organically
- 1:22:24Unfurled onto the football field. It's it's amazing
- 1:22:28Uh, he seems to be in the right place at the right time a lot
- 1:22:33Yeah
- 1:22:34You know not to the mika fitzpatrick level
- 1:22:39but close
- 1:22:41Close. Yeah. Yeah close to it. They're a little a little different minka does a little more roaming and
- 1:22:49jesse works a little more downhill generally, but
- 1:22:52I I think that
- 1:22:54They're two of the best safeties in the league. So they're definitely comparable on some level
- 1:23:00so atl
- 1:23:02Let's shout out our guy
- 1:23:04In the atl go ahead shot him out go to our guy out
- 1:23:09Uh shout out to my boy kez
- 1:23:11I i've been talking to him over the last couple days. He he seems to be doing okay doing
- 1:23:18Pretty good lately the the atl eons podcast was the hit on qpbn. I think we can all say we love that show and
- 1:23:27uh
- 1:23:29I'm i'm happy for my guy kez getting
- 1:23:32Jesse baits today. I know he wanted it. I'd uh,
- 1:23:36I hope we can have him on the pod here one day soon
- 1:23:40Oh, yeah, we gotta do something with all mr. Andrews
- 1:23:43Do you have a open invitation?
- 1:23:45To the pot and we will talk nothing
- 1:23:48but atl
- 1:23:50We could bring him off with the basketball pot
- 1:23:52Yeah, we can talk about
- 1:23:54He can do the state of the union of his beloved atlanta hawks
- 1:23:59Mm-hmm. I'm sure jacob
- 1:24:01Young jake would love to would like to be on that as well. Yeah
- 1:24:06you know, so
- 1:24:08Got a lot to pull from with that
- 1:24:10So with that being said
- 1:24:12for my guy
- 1:24:17He is all of these wrapped up in the one
- 1:24:20All right, so the canadian bomber
- 1:24:23the canadian shaman
- 1:24:26the canadian bill simons and
- 1:24:29With that being said trust
- 1:24:32There are deals in the works folks trust and believe
- 1:24:36and
- 1:24:38for this pot
- 1:24:40The canadian mike holland my boy nico miotelo
- 1:24:44Send us off man. Let him know what we're doing. We got stuff coming up on friday. I think I don't know let us know
- 1:24:51Yeah, we got we we're gonna have a basketball pod coming up on friday. I don't think we've talked
- 1:24:57Necessarily too much about what's going on, but we're in a spot where we can start doing some
- 1:25:04playoff previews
- 1:25:06And up some matchups that are uh seeming to emerge we can
- 1:25:11Do some more celebrating of the sacramento kings as it looks
- 1:25:15More and more guaranteed that they're securing their first playoff berth in 16 years
- 1:25:21And we can touch on that lakers team of yours
- 1:25:25And how nice they're looking lately. I think uh, they they might be primed to upset someone in the first round
- 1:25:32Sorry, yes, sir, and I will be focused in on one thing and one thing only
- 1:25:39A club fours up all day ucla in the tournament. They are number two seed in the west
- 1:25:47And that's where my attention will be
- 1:25:49thursday
- 1:25:50Just let you know that's where
- 1:25:53my attention will be
- 1:25:55Leading into the basketball pod
- 1:25:59on friday
- 1:26:00Definitely make sense where we're gonna have to touch on march madness as well. I put together
- 1:26:06A bracket today. Have you looked at that yet?
- 1:26:11Oh, no, i'm i'm i'm analyzing my bracket as as we speak. I am on top of it
- 1:26:17Right now i'm a little upset with a lit some of the things in my region
- 1:26:23Which is the west?
- 1:26:25Not excited about gonzaga being in my region whatsoever. Um, i'm really upset about this whole
- 1:26:35Why can't we have a actual team from the west be a number one seed?
- 1:26:42Just as lii, I don't know just yeah
- 1:26:47Yeah, whatever I guess so
- 1:26:50but
- 1:26:51So when we move to the big 10, this won't be a problem by the way, just as well. Yeah, that's true
- 1:26:57That's true. I love that. So what what did you end up with your final matchup will give people this to
- 1:27:05To go off your final the end of your bracket
- 1:27:08Um, i'm still working on it because i'm still
- 1:27:12Even though i'm a homer for ucla. I am a realist
- 1:27:16I gotta see if I can get my guys to the finals
- 1:27:18Even with the devastating news of jaylen clark shout out to my guy
- 1:27:24Who was all world defensive player?
- 1:27:28Of the year in the pack 12
- 1:27:30Torn achilles we wish him nothing but a speedy recovery and we don't know if he's going in the draft
- 1:27:37We don't know if he's gonna go so
- 1:27:40Well, it's good for you
- 1:27:41So maybe maybe we'll save that we'll tease that also for the friday pod
- 1:27:46Well, we can maybe reveal our lead dates or something. I will I will have it ready
- 1:27:54By then I got a lot of stuff to go over tonight a lot of things comb over tonight
- 1:28:00To figure it all out
- 1:28:01so
- 1:28:02I am uh looking forward to all of this and we got to get off because
- 1:28:07We got some news on uh, john moret
- 1:28:10That just came out. So we got to go look at that
- 1:28:14Yeah, okay
- 1:28:15All right guys, we will see you on friday on this feed and I also believe
- 1:28:22That somewhere in the mix here will be a life pod
- 1:28:27coming very soon
- 1:28:29about my beloved mother, so
- 1:28:32Keep on the lookout for these
- 1:28:36pods
- 1:28:38And go look at the website too
- 1:28:40To www frontrunnerpc.com we got news up there. We've got
- 1:28:46All the latest news we get stuff aggregated to from espn and whatever the case may be plus
- 1:28:51There's some stuff up there on the site from us and there'll be more stuff to come
- 1:28:56Up so with that being said you guys have a good week and we'll see you on this feed on friday
- 1:29:26You