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Post Edge heads Q&A - FROM THE VAULT! · The Major Wrestling Figure Podcast

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  Speaker 1: It's that time of the month. Time to get h
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  Speaker 1: A U D.
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  Speaker 2: It's the Hard Foundation Bonus episode. We're the O hosts,
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  Speaker 2: the Major King, met Codona, Maximum Endment, Brian Myers.
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  Speaker 1: And up the Silverables himself slock Clock Star. Welcome everyone
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  Speaker 1: to the October Bonus episode four Hard Foundation members only
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  Speaker 1: live on our Patreon. I am your moderator for this evening,
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  Speaker 1: Smart Mark Sterling Esquire, and I'm joined by the former
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  Speaker 1: Edgeheads or the Edge Triplets as Dan Hausen will call
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  Speaker 1: you first, and.
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  Speaker 3: The easy to think that you know me, I still
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  Speaker 3: get I don't know. It resonates with me when I
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  Speaker 3: hear that. That's all I gotta say.
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  Speaker 1: Hell, who are you? Who does it as a name with?
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  Speaker 3: I guess since I spoke first, I'll introduce myself first.
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  Speaker 3: I am the most professional wrestler, Impact Wrestling Star and
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  Speaker 3: the Scottie Pippen of Wrestling figure, collecting in the one
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  Speaker 3: time half one half of the youngest ww techting champions
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  Speaker 3: in the history of the business.
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  Speaker 4: Brian Myers, what's up?
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  Speaker 1: Nobody's nobody's been younger.
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  Speaker 5: I think there is there is an asterisk next to that.
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  Speaker 4: We'll talk about that.
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  Speaker 5: But I am the other Edgehead always ready, Matt Carr
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  Speaker 5: doing O What's up?
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  Speaker 1: Mark? What's up? Guys? All right, So again like we've
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  Speaker 1: been doing. If you're listening to this now go back
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  Speaker 1: listen to the other episodes if you haven't heard them,
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  Speaker 1: we start from the very beginnings of their career in
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  Speaker 1: different Q and A episodes. We spend three episodes on
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  Speaker 1: their developmental time. Last episode was about their time in
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  Speaker 1: the Edgeheads. Now we're doing post edge edge Heads for
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  Speaker 1: about that year. We ask you, guys, questions from the
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  Speaker 1: Hard Foundation members. So if you're a Hard Fundation member
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  Speaker 1: and you didn't ask a question, you you're missing out.
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  Speaker 4: Can I give a little follow up?
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  Speaker 1: Sure?
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  Speaker 5: So in one of the earlier, earlier episodes, we were
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  Speaker 5: discussing NYWC and becoming the nyw C Tag Team Champions,
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  Speaker 5: and I don't know if I said it in that episode,
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  Speaker 5: but I have said it before that I've been trying
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  Speaker 5: to track down that NYWC Tag Team title and somebody
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  Speaker 5: who has it contacted.
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  Speaker 4: Me on Twitter.
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  Speaker 5: Former NYWC Tag Team Champion Sither. I believe it is
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  Speaker 5: his name, Syther Cither Syther, He's a wrestling trainer now
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  Speaker 5: in Florida. And he kind of offered it to me.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to get into the the details of
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  Speaker 5: the offer, but I had to decline, Oh two price.
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  Speaker 5: It wasn't a price, it was more like a favor,
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  Speaker 5: and I still had to decline.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, meet and greet.
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  Speaker 5: I had to decline what it was and.
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  Speaker 1: It was a seminar because you hate.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely yeah, hates helping the you know, current I actually
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  Speaker 3: think i'd be great not remember Taz had that finishing school.
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  Speaker 4: I think we should be like Broski's finishing schools. Finishing school.
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  Speaker 5: I couldn't teach how Brian has the patience he could teach.
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  Speaker 5: I could not teach somebody how to lock up, you know.
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  Speaker 5: I couldn't teach somebody how to grab a headlock. I
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  Speaker 5: could I could watch a match.
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  Speaker 3: For whatever reason, people have shows. People just didn't show up, injuries, sicknesses, whatever,
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  Speaker 3: great upro my class. There was two kids and then
• 3:31
  Speaker 3: Max Caster rolled through. So these two kids, literally kids
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  Speaker 3: who've like had you know, never had a match, probably
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  Speaker 3: had the training session of a lifetime.
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  Speaker 4: Well there you go.
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  Speaker 3: I mean did drills with me and Castor for an hour,
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  Speaker 3: worked us on the fly and the tag match I
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  Speaker 3: mean like a i'd say, an invaluable learning experience.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like Brian Uh, you know, as a
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  Speaker 1: student for a couple of years, Brian's way of dealing
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  Speaker 1: with the impatience of the headlock and all that stuff
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  Speaker 1: is like, Brian, I feel like you're really good at
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  Speaker 1: like seeing who cares and who wants it and all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff, and the people that don't You just kind
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  Speaker 1: of like that's.
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  Speaker 4: The doctor Tom and me.
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  Speaker 3: Doctor I feel like Doctr Tom could just read a
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  Speaker 3: guy like this guy cares, this guy has passion, and
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  Speaker 3: then if you didn't like same as what you're saying,
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  Speaker 3: Like if you didn't, he wasn't gonna like pick on you,
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  Speaker 3: bully you.
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  Speaker 4: He's just not gonna give a fuck about you.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, nice role, Let's move on.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's why we succeeded so well at n
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  Speaker 5: YWC and in Deep South is because Mikey and Bill
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  Speaker 5: and Dave Taylor too, and doctor Tom uh saw that
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  Speaker 5: we did care.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah sure, and our care was like genuine.
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  Speaker 5: And not bullshit like I'm gonna do this better coach,
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  Speaker 5: like obviously.
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  Speaker 3: Brown knows you know, thing Like God, I always remember
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  Speaker 3: in obw if Al Snow made any fucking lame ass joke,
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  Speaker 3: sure is enough.
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  Speaker 4: You could set your watch to it.
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  Speaker 3: Brad Jake the first one, belly laughing like like Dave
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  Speaker 3: Chappelle was up there doing a routine like you can say,
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  Speaker 3: you watch too. It just brown nosy like kiss that
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  Speaker 3: ship like that like that. That's not what we did.
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  Speaker 3: We just truly like really loved wrestling and like kind
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  Speaker 3: of couldn't get enough, you know.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So, like I said, we asked uh the
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  Speaker 1: Heart fundage members to ask questions to us.
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  Speaker 5: But I haven't heard that thing that just popped my head. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: do we record these videos as videos?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but I haven't been putting them up.
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  Speaker 5: We never used it, right, But like, why why doesn't
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  Speaker 5: d Freedom take like sound bites and making social clips
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  Speaker 5: that people are like, oh, I should download the pod
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  Speaker 5: to hear the whole.
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  Speaker 4: Thing, become a page. I should become a patren.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we should do that. There's some cool shit awesome
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  Speaker 5: because he makes great videos. Why not do it for
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  Speaker 5: these bonus ones?
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  Speaker 1: You want me to put the video up of these? Well,
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  Speaker 1: the actual problem was we did a lot of these
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  Speaker 1: like in the car, you know, so there was no videos.
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  Speaker 5: It's I'm not saying you have to put it up
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  Speaker 5: for YouTube. I'm just saying, like so deep even can
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  Speaker 5: make the the video to put up on social sure
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  Speaker 5: if we if we have it, why not put up
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  Speaker 5: on video?
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  Speaker 4: Right for the.
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  Speaker 1: Patriots, there's some unreal clips. I'm saying some things in
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  Speaker 1: some of those old episodes. A, well, we have to
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  Speaker 1: stuff from away. Sorry, let's set the stage before I
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  Speaker 1: even get to their questions. Edgeheads break up. Tell me
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  Speaker 1: what what happens?
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  Speaker 4: Well, we never break up, Okay, that's what That's why
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  Speaker 4: it's so confusing.
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  Speaker 5: He loses at Summer Slam, goes what year are we talking,
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  Speaker 5: gets choked slammed through the ring, I believe, right, and
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  Speaker 5: there's flames.
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  Speaker 4: He's like dead, he's in Hans.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know about you, but all I remember
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  Speaker 3: is being backstage talking to him and saying goodbye, and
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  Speaker 3: he smelt burnt.
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  Speaker 4: I don't remember that because like he.
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  Speaker 3: Choked slams through the ring, he disappears and Undertaker is
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  Speaker 3: the thing, and like Pyro comes up from it. So
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  Speaker 3: he's very close to this Pyro fire and then like
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  Speaker 3: he's like the little bit of body hair as he
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  Speaker 3: had were like sings and you could like smelt burnt
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  Speaker 3: and we were like saying thank you and goodbye to
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  Speaker 3: and like whatever.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably like burnt hair.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah it was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: At that point, we are still the tag team champions.
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  Speaker 5: We had won them at Great American Bash, I believe,
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  Speaker 5: yep on Long Island, and I remember, you know, I
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  Speaker 5: don't know if we talked to this last episode. I
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  Speaker 5: remember sitting in the bleach. Of course, you're hoping you're
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  Speaker 5: gonna win the titles. Of course we were sitting in
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  Speaker 5: the bleachers and whoever told us we were winning, like inside,
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  Speaker 5: I was like, yes, but.
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  Speaker 3: I had to play it so cool. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 3: it was I think it was Findley. We were just like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: sounds good, sir, thank you.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like it it's either Hazer or or or
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  Speaker 5: Friendly Senator. So we are the champions.
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  Speaker 4: I said this bore.
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  Speaker 5: We never actually got proper name plates. We just had
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  Speaker 5: paper name plates and they never real name plates.
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  Speaker 4: You can't tell on TV tell on TV.
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  Speaker 3: I was happy when we got him Richie from Magic
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  Speaker 3: and I remember this, he touched them up. Yeah, live
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  Speaker 3: event ones at least he like touched them up, so
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  Speaker 3: looked nice in pristine, like he and painted all the
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  Speaker 3: blue detailing.
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  Speaker 4: In it and whatever. I thought that was pretty cool
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  Speaker 4: to see.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so so edges out. I thought it was an injury,
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  Speaker 5: but you said it was like personal time.
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  Speaker 3: I know for a fact he said he went to
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  Speaker 3: Vince and said, I'd like to have some vacation time
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  Speaker 3: where like my neck's not in a goddamn neck brace
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  Speaker 3: or my you know, my leg is broken.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not saying that it's not sure. I
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  Speaker 4: just don't remember it that way. That's fine if you
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  Speaker 4: think about it.
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  Speaker 3: That was basically year that he went went so far
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  Speaker 3: on top, as the top in every way.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so we're kind of like, I want to say,
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  Speaker 5: we're worried, but I also think at the same time
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  Speaker 5: where everything's just going so great for us.
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  Speaker 4: I mean like at this at this point, it don't
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  Speaker 4: recall me worried at all.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like we're the tag team champions, like we did
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  Speaker 5: the run in at Mania, just going to come back.
• 8:50
  Speaker 5: We have that big edgehead three way next Mania, it
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  Speaker 5: doesn't happen. I remember Primo debuts like he's on Raw
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  Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden comes to SmackDown. We
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  Speaker 5: do uh impromptu like match and we lose.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I have another poun memory about this day, and
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  Speaker 3: this might spark remember for you that day. Originally we're
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  Speaker 3: the tag champs and on SmackDown we're supposed to like
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  Speaker 3: squash like Funaki and like Jimmy Yang or something like
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  Speaker 3: a straight up squash match like run through these dudes.
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  Speaker 3: That was that when they come out of the first meeting,
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  Speaker 3: that's what it was. We started putting together. They come
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  Speaker 3: out of the next me and they're like, oh no,
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  Speaker 3: Primo's gonna debut with Carlito wasn't doing anything.
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  Speaker 4: Carlor was never on the show.
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: He had been drafted, like in the previous night, he
• 9:35
  Speaker 3: had never been on his hair. They like made him
• 9:37
  Speaker 3: take the bread the braids out. He never wore those
• 9:39
  Speaker 3: on TV. He went back to like old school Carlito.
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  Speaker 3: And they're like they're putting them together and they're beating
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  Speaker 3: you guys in a tag match, and we were like,
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  Speaker 3: exqueeze me baking powder. We were like, what, like just
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  Speaker 3: it's just then, But that's honestly, that's like one of
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  Speaker 3: the first times that happened to us in WW But
• 9:53
  Speaker 3: if if you work there, you know that's like, so
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  Speaker 3: that's typical.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so typical.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what happened, and we had a match with them,
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  Speaker 3: and they they're great, They are awesome workers and so
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  Speaker 3: fun to work with. Both both those guys are tremendous
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: and so we just did that. We put them over
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  Speaker 3: non title. The following week we have uh Carle Leader's
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  Speaker 3: Cabana and Freddie Prince Junior wrote the segment I remember,
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  Speaker 3: and he was really pumped.
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  Speaker 4: He said, like, everyone did a great job.
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  Speaker 3: And then we had the title match following week and
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  Speaker 3: we lose, and that it's basically it for us.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, now when you say that, what do you mean
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  Speaker 1: by that?
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  Speaker 4: What do you do?
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  Speaker 1: Never a period that we're doing this episode.
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  Speaker 5: This is like October September, September October this time period
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  Speaker 5: right now September of two thousand and eight.
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  Speaker 1: And then for the next year through two thousand.
• 10:40
  Speaker 5: No no week then, so then it's we're still being
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  Speaker 5: brought to TV and I don't know.
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: They never tell us it's over. Really, I mean, we
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: had this weird thing where they did.
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  Speaker 5: But remember I remember one of us. I believe it's you.
• 10:55
  Speaker 5: You're supposed to wrestle kung fu naky, either in a
• 10:58
  Speaker 5: dark match or a segue match. A segway match is
• 11:01
  Speaker 5: e CW used to be taped after SmackDown or before SmackDown,
• 11:05
  Speaker 5: depending on where it was in the you know, in
• 11:07
  Speaker 5: the country with the time zones. So like while they're
• 11:10
  Speaker 5: switching the aprons and stuff like that, they would have
• 11:13
  Speaker 5: a match just like go on there as they're like
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  Speaker 5: switching the fucking aprons.
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  Speaker 4: It was meeting.
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  Speaker 5: It was just so like the people had something to
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  Speaker 5: watch besides the crew switching the aprons.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, weird, but nowadays they just do it.
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  Speaker 1: Do it so quick. There's a video.
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  Speaker 4: They play videos. Yeah, just play videos, you don't need matches. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So I remember Johnny Ace tells us that either somewhere
• 11:38
  Speaker 5: we're gonna meet with Vince, like today, so whoa okay,
• 11:42
  Speaker 5: So I just remember sitting outside his office like forever,
• 11:45
  Speaker 5: and everybody like walking by and asked, like what we're doing,
• 11:49
  Speaker 5: because like everyone knows that you're sitting outside Vince's office.
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  Speaker 5: I always hated that feeling, even like when you're doing
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  Speaker 5: it like on your own, you know, like whatever. We
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  Speaker 5: finally go in and you might remember but this differently
• 12:00
  Speaker 5: than I do. But I long story short. I remember
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  Speaker 5: him saying, like, you guys are done as a team,
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  Speaker 5: and we're gonna do things with you individually, and we're
• 12:10
  Speaker 5: gonna bring you both to Stanford and come up with
• 12:13
  Speaker 5: new ideas for you guys as single stars. And it
• 12:16
  Speaker 5: wasn't like it wasn't a negative necessarily.
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  Speaker 3: Not being a bad talk at all, just like we
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  Speaker 3: think it's run its course as a team and we're
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: gonna slit you up and see what you can do
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: as as singles wrestlers. That's all right, so cool, like
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: at least we know what's going on. That sounds great,
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: and then that just never ever happens.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: Never let me let me ask you a question here,
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: let me butt in here, Brian, you hear this? Uh
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: where is your headspace at? Like are you excited? Like
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we both were like cool, that's what vincing man slence,
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: that's what's gonna happen, you know. I mean, so you
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: thought like, okay, and that's this is what the next
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: you know, evolution of our career is. But then like
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: it was hard to like sink your teeth into and
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: get those wheelspin because then you show up next week
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: and it's like, okay, you have a tag magic these
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  Speaker 3: guys just jobbing. Okay, next week you have a tag
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  Speaker 3: munch of these guys and you're jobbing.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: One time we showed up thinking we were doing nothing
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  Speaker 3: and we wrestled the Triple H and Jeff Hardy on SmackDown.
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  Speaker 5: First of all that day, shit like that like that,
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  Speaker 5: like first of all that day. We weren't even supposed
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  Speaker 5: to be there. We just drove because it was Albany.
• 13:21
  Speaker 5: It was a drive from Long Island. We just showed
• 13:23
  Speaker 5: up and all of suden, we're wrestling Jeff Harty at
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  Speaker 5: Triple H.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 3: This was also this very crazy time period in the
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: company where they like cheaped out and they did two
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: Smacked On TVs a month, and they would do two episodes.
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: They were like a double taping. And so if you
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: weren't on live inns, which we were no longer on
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: live events once we lost the belts, we would only
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  Speaker 3: work two days out of an entire month.
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  Speaker 5: That's that's one thousand dollars a month.
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  Speaker 4: And that's five hundred shot.
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  Speaker 3: I means we made one thousand dollars a month for
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: like basically September October November, December, January, February of oh wait,
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  Speaker 3: beginning about nine but.
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  Speaker 5: Also but also in this time before, but before like
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  Speaker 5: we really had taken off the road, we were still
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: doing things like by ourselves, and like that's kind of
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: where like the Woo Woo and all that bs started
• 14:13
  Speaker 5: and we were doing it on like Morrison and Missus
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  Speaker 5: Dirt Sheet, we were doing on a Col Cabanas show.
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  Speaker 4: So like like we're always trying to move right.
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  Speaker 5: We knew that even while we were the edgeheads, that
• 14:25
  Speaker 5: people just saw us as the edge guys. As Sean
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: Michaels would say, nobody knew who Zach Ryder was, nobody
• 14:31
  Speaker 5: who Kurt Hawkins was. You'd be like walking down the
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: hall like by yourself and someone were like, hey, guys,
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  Speaker 5: but it's only me. There's that you know, nobody knew
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  Speaker 5: who we were, so we we had to be separate
• 14:41
  Speaker 5: and look different, and that's why eventually.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: My favorite was when Charlie has started his supplement company
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: and he's pitching Brosky so hard, talking to like they're
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: best friends.
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: Then he's like, you know, and then he.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: Had to like so obviously look at his boots and
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: be like rider like he had no idea what his
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: name was, like get out of here.
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  Speaker 4: So it was definitely like a weird time.
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  Speaker 5: This is also the time where we're on that that
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  Speaker 5: tour of Mexico with the Undertaker head snap and the
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  Speaker 5: cell phone, and that's the real kiss of death. Not
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: like not proven though, no no, no, no, not proven at all,
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  Speaker 5: but like that I felt like, yeah, it felt like it.
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  Speaker 5: And if you don't know that story of the story
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: goes this is this is pre social media, pre iPhones,
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: where like everyone was supposed to be at the monitor.
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: Nowadays people don't even watch about it. People leave early.
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but back in
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: the day, you were supposed to watch the monitor. Fuck
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: how many nights in a row did we see Triple
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: HROs Vladimir Kaslow. That's not an excuses the truth though,
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: And like we got out our cell phones.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: I was probably texting my girlfri at the time. Who
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: knows we were doing? And Undertaker does that the head snap.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: I've always pleaded partially innocent in this. I swear to god,
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: I was sitting there watching kus Off and Triple H
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: for the fourth night in a row, just eyeballs leading,
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: and I went to check the time. I literally just
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: pulled my phone out and went like this, and I hear, god,
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: damn it. And then I looked down the row and
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: it's like Brosky clearly texting it, and Shelton Benjamin clearly
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: texting like in a row with me, and we all
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: kind of oh shit, and take her cut this whole
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: promo about you know, you know you gotta want to
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: watch the man. I mean, he's right, it's like a
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: veteran old school thing, totally respect thing or whatever.
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: And Mark Henry pulls his side, says, we need to apologist.
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: Take her, take her super cool about it, says we
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: need to apologize to the guys in the main event.
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: I don't even know if we wented to Bladerber cause
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: Off did.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: He was. He's like our buddy from DePaul. He's to
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: drive us around like hang out.
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'll never forget going to apologist. Triple Achu
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: doesn't know what we did, so we.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: Have to like stool ourselves off.
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: Oh it's his private dress room. Uh Hunter, sorry, we
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: were on our phones during your match.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: And he like played off like he didn't care. But
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: I don't think he really did care.
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: No, no, but like it's none of this stuff did
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: us any favors.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: So what makes you think it was a kiss of death?
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Like you just start I just.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Spell like that because like we had just lost the belts.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: We never really got booked again after this, you know,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: because yeah, because then it was like where we weren't
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Taker cut this weird like we had like the post
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: uh tour, like locker room toast where like normally everyone says.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: Oh, a great too, or a great job, but this
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: this one Taker.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Cut this like weird promo that like houses are down
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: and we all have to like shape up and be
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: at our best and kind of thing. It's just like
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: a little it was I don't know, it was a
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: lot yeah once, I guess.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: And like Brian said, like you know, we were we were
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: just getting brought to random TVs to like Wrestle the
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: Great Colleen a handicap match over Finelli and Hornswaggle.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: A Battle Royal, Like we just kept being booked, like
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: we were never unbooked, and we'd say, like, what about
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: what we talked about and then even we might have
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: talked about this, we had we finally made them make
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: that appointment for us to go up to Stanford.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: We we filmed something with my cousin, Geographena. It's on YouTube.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: We put it up there before where it's like, I
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: don't know why we kept pitching it Hawkins and Riders up,
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: but we were because we realized they weren't doing the
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: individual stuff and so we were trying to.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: We were I don't think we either one of us
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: thought we were ready, like we were still comfortable, like
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: we were just I thought we were honestly, literally, I
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: thought we were just clicking as a team as they
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: wanted to break us up kind of thing, you know,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: just becoming you know, not green boys, and you know,
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: on our way to becoming polished wrestlers, you know.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: And I still I still feel that way, sure.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: And and the video is up on our YouTube channel
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: where it's essentially just me being the woo woo annoying
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: over the top guy, and Brian is more like putting
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: his hands in his face, like you know, hands in
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: his hands, his pomp, his face is palm like just
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: so like fed up, just pull off over the top.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Guy in the straight guy like classic you know, comedy
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: one on one routine.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: And either way you would just know.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Okay, it was just a better way to separate Hawkins
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: and Rider, because we're just two guys who kind of
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: look like in the trunks and the the trunks and
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: the long tights weren't the big enough difference. Weren't being
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: a big enough difference.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Also, at this time, Edge comes back of that Survivor
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: series and like wins the belt right like the first night,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, we're back together, and he's like,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: I think we might be. I remember him saying that too,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: where I thought like, Okay, we're just gonna roll back
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: into a lot familiar.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: At one point I thought that was the case.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: It never happened.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Vicky came and told us that too, and I was like, oh, okay,
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: so this is really we're really not going to do
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: this singles thing.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: So Edge was only off from summer salaminous Survivor series. Yes, okay,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: so real quick, Brian, what were you in your mind?
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Oh crap, I have to do a singles run? What
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: what's like the first thought? Are you are you landing
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: on this Prince of Queen's thing at all?
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: No? Not even close. I don't remember. I just I
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: was still so green and still trying to find myself.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: I had no.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: It was so far from my mind. And like when
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Vince said it was so sprung on me that I
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: had no. I wasn't even thinking about it. You know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: I wasn't even planning it. I had I had nothing.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Really, you know that, BROSI you've had this club guy
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: in your head.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, it started off as just being like
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: the annoying guy, but then like I knew, I wanted
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: to cut my hand and blah blah blah blah. And
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: even the beginning of two thousand and nine, you know,
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: whether they're not bringing us or you know, for instance,
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: like we're in that that WrestleMania Lumberjack is like Hawkins
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: and Rider guys. You know, like we're still a team.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: Then at WrestleMania, you know, in theory we might even
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: have had an access match.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Maybe not. I'm not quite sure. That's the fame? Are
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: you kidding me? That's the famous that's yeah.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: Oh Jesus Christ. Okay, so we have it. We haven't
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: had matches as a team. Okay, so now singles matches,
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: I haven't I want to say, I want to say
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: for it.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: In like oh nine, we're just like flat out like
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: not brought to TVs unless we can drive to them.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: So that's like a lot of not wrestling. I've always
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: had this thing. I mean, maybe it's from like my
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: sports background, but I love the mark got attest to this,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: like for my school.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: I just love training.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: I just I enjoy it makes me feel better, it
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: makes my body feel better, it makes me feel like mentally.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Sharper about wrestling. I don't know what it is. I
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: do not like to miss.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: I have to wrestle one day a week every week
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: to stay where I want to stay. If I miss
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: a week, which happens sometimes time, I hate it. So
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: when we were off at all this time, I was
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: constantly going down ywc, rolling around whatever, doing everything I could,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: always in the ring.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: So we get called for Mania a week whatever.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: We have all these responsibilities, access signing, access matches, and
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: we're eventually going to be lumberjacks on the kickoff thing
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: or whatever it was.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: I barely I don't even remember.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: But uh so, for whatever reason, the access match was
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Broski versus Charlie Haas with me as the valet is
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: in during the day, maybe like a five o'clock session
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: the eight o'clock was me vers Jimmy Wang Yang. I
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: was like, okay, cool, and then Broski and Charlie Hass
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: proceed to have this like epic match that I've talked
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: about with the boys for just years since it's happened.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, listen, I was so blown up. And I'm
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: not making an excuse, but I was. I was so
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: blown up. I almost injury in there.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Charlie's the funniest part spaked in injury.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Charlie is in the same boat, except opposite mindset. Like
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Brosky's like, oh shit, I haven't wrestled, I don't want
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: to do a loast stuff. Charlie's going he hasn't been
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: booked either on the raw side, and he's mad and
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: wants to like just go and like give it his all.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: And it's in his like hometown basically, so his family
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: was there, and he's like pretty.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: A video camera is recording of this somewhere.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Like click click camp, and he like he like wanted
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: to go in, and Broskey's like okay and doesn't shut
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: down Anyways, Charlie asked back then especially was pretty scary
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: and like, uh, you know, Brosceley doesn't shut down. One
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: idea goes with everything, and I'm out there with the
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: best seat in the house, just like holy shit, because
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: I could just tell, knowing how well I know him,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: that he's done.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: He's physically exhausted, and they have.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: Like been like wasn't even like only my lungs like
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: giving out.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: It was the legs, dude, what your legs go? You're done.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: So like I see Brosky as his hold on and
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: they aven't got to the comeback again.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: I'm like, he's done.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: He's done, Like he's barely he barely hold like a
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: fake chin lock on Charlie House.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: He's so blown up, and they to do.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: The little comeback, which I kind of knew what it
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: was because I was Charlie was calling it like a
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: madman like in the back, so I knew it was something.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Find out the whole jab jab jab Rocky Johnson's shuffle.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: That's the big one where Brosky finally bumps and then
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: he's supposed to take off and come with something, and
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: that starts like the bumping free of Brosiy's getting up,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: getting down, getting up, getting down and taking all his
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: so he does it jab jab jab breaks the whole
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: whatever boom, big punch, Brocey takes a nice flap back
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: bump bump. He's laying there. Charlie takes off to hit
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: the ropes. He runs back and Brocey's still just dead
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: flatten the ground like hasn't moved, and he's just like
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I see this. He's like like he's like grab it, match,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: try to pick him up his hard he's getting match
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: shoot legitimately using the ropes to get up because his
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: legs aren't working, like he's using them like he's paralyzed,
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: and Charlie's just speeding the crap out of him. And
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: then like the worst part about this on top of
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: all and I'm even at the worst part, but it
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: added awful aspect of this match. I remember the agent
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: was Tony Garia, who had no input, but he just goes,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: I would really like to see you Worley bird spot
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: in there, which means an airplane spin, and he went
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: and eventually Charlie gets broke me up an airplane spinning.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I feed and take like the Terry Funk ladder like
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: leg bump from Brosky, like on top of this like
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: debacle that's going on. And then Charlie got a promo
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: on Brosky the back for being a professional and shitty.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: I don't, I don't.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: I don't remember that point you said you embarrassed me
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: out there, kid, I don't know.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: If I remember that. But anyway, long story short.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I'm also I'm also like, oh shit, I gotta put
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: up her. Shut up now, I gotta have a match too,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Like tonight.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Were you supposed to wrestle Jimmy Yang or Hurricane Jimmy
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Yang in his singles and.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: Then Hurricane didn't want to go to Hall of Fame,
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: so some Hurricane told Krono he'd rather wrestle Access than
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: go to the Hall of Fame.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Got out of it.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so we had a fun ass tag team match.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: I totally redeem.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Unreal night and Day, like awesome tag match with Hurricane
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Jimmy Yang.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: It was so fun.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Hurricane he actually he's the first time he's Hurricane and
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Gregor Helms in like years and gets this big pop
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: and it was like, I've wrestling in Access at least
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: back then. I can't say that anymore because now it's
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: like a little different. Now they like make a big,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: you know, NXT spectacle of it. But back then you're
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: literally just like you're almost like a farm anilyt a
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: petting zoo, like people want to stop buying, you know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: they want to stop buying check it out? Maybe so
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: like it's never fun. This was the only time I
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: had an enjoyable experience wrestling at Access.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Huh what's that tag?
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: All right? So help me out? When does do things change?
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: And are we talking about that?
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: Then there's then there's then there's the draft a couple
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: of weeks later, and that's a shoot draft. And I
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: remember I found out going to w E dot Com
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: on my Razor phone that I hadn't drafted.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, time out, So you see this thoughts in your head? Please?
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: Uh well, I mean I think at that time we
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: both knew like we needed to change. Also keep in
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: mind this now this has never been proven either, but
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: like the program had come out for that year and
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: we're not in it, and I was like, oh no,
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: Like do they know we're gonna get released? Like why
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: would we not be in the program? That was just
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: like a little minor thing. But also at the same time,
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: on the flip side, things like our action figures were
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: finally starting to come out. We were in our first
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: video game, because things are you know, always a year behind.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: So while we're doing nothing on TV, we get like
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: three action figures in a row. We get the Treacher's Trio,
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: the Deluxe Aggression, the uh maybe I think they all
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: come out at the same time, the Microaggression, the Build Unbrawler.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: So in like that sense is like a cool, like
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: career high, but like the reality is, you know, you're
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: not to shit on TV and not even getting brought
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: to TV. Yeah, and you're not making money.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: So Brian, where do you go in this draft?
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: I stayed on SmackDown technically okay, big big technically bomb
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: in that one.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: So where do things go for you? Brosky? Right away?
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: I remember ed Koski was the right on ACW. I
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: think like we had pitched him this this video when
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: we showed it to him, him and Dave Kapoor. I
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: remember one or the other or both when we went
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: to the office at one time.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Uh and he.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Side note that meeting. When we go to Stanford, we
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: never get into see Vince we seek, yeah, we never
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: see show him this video. And all I really remember is, uh,
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: we were sat in Coronto's office forever and there was
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: a stack of like DVDs and TVs and stuff, and
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: it literally said like Ricky or Tz ECW match and
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: had just happened. And no one really knows this because
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: it's edited off TV, but there's like a six man
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: on ECW and Ricky Ortz I think does the worst
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: springboard in the history of pro wrestling. And we just
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: kept watching it over and over with Coronto like having
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: a blast, like like that's all I really remember about it,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: like you know, relive in that again.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: Right, So everything kind of once I got drafted, I
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: think within the week or two, I'm on TV right
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: away as the new character. I didn't even have new
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: gear the first the first week, I'm wearing the gear
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: that I wore at that WrestleMania Battle Royal, which essentially
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: my regular gear is a different color. And I went
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: to Express or I had an Express, you know the store.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: Express had the pop collar dress shirt. I had like
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: a headband that was like a Meyer and Matthew's purple headband.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: And I cut my hair and and that was it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: It was The Woo Woo guy did a backstage thing
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: on ECW with Tiffany, the general manager, kind of saying
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: who I was, and then I wrestle Finley that night
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: on Superstars, and at the time Superstars it wasn't like
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: the total Jabron show, yet it was still like part
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: of the storyline. So I lose my debut match against Finley.
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: I lose, and then he takes my only headband and
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: throws it into the crowd. So I need to take
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: the still photo. So the still photo from my debut
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: I'm wearing an MVP headband.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: Just the other way. You know, you don't see the
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: logo fun fit act.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: So tell me about the hair like I hated.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: No. No, I went to Michael the barber, like the
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: day before.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: How do you know that you can now you have
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: the permission to go do this.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: I asked, Okay, I said, can I cut my hair?
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Yes? Once you got drafted, get drafted from me. You
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: know you're split. Can I cut my hair?
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: I hadn't asking before, but the answer was always no
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: because I knew like I wanted to be like this,
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: this character because at this time we're not being brought
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: to TV. So really I'm just being a delinquent with
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: my friends, going out, like to the bars and the
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: clubs of Long Island. New York City all the time,
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: and I'm basing this character off people I hate, like
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: the douchebags who are out there with the popped up
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: the collar and the song like essentially Jersey Shore before
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: it was Jersey Shore on TV, like it was a
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: real thing on in Jersey, New York, Long Island. I
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: just wanted to be that because I knew I hated it,
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: and I knew I could be it and make people
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: hate me.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Hmm, all right, so Brian, where do you? What do
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: you do from here?
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: So?
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Like, like I said, I had no clue who I
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: was as a singles wrestler or what I was going
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: to do, And then the creative didn't either like nothing
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: was brought to me or they had nothing for me.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: And I stayed on SmackDown, but I still had no travel,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: so I was not going.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: To TVs or doing anything.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: There was a SmackDown at the garden where I remember
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: I just showed up and I like talked to my
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Glaiz and like try to get some answers, and I
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: could tell there was nothing happening, and that this lasted
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: for about I want to say, only like two three weeks,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: and I saw the riding on the wall, and I
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: was like, well, I've been around long enough to see that,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: like this is like.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: The beginning of end for people.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: And to be honest, I was getting very confident as
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: a wrestler at this point, you know, like my confidence
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: had really grown, my arrogance had really grown.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: And I was like pissed off.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: So I called Johnny East and I said, like I understand,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Like you know, he even said to me like, well,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: nobody thinks you suck or anything like we don't want
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: to fire you or we and we don't want to
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: send you to developmental or anything like that.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: But I said, but I'll just go.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: I said, I'm you know, I'm twenty four, I'm single,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Like I don't own a house.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Like, I'll just go. I said, I'll just go to Florida.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: If they have nothing for me, at least I know there,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: I'll be on TV every week, I'll get my reps.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: I'll work and you guys will see me and see
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: me grow, and you know, I'll figure it out. And
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: uh so that's why I told him, and he's like fine.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: But then that also because I wasn't being sent there,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: I didn't get paid to go there. For a full year,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: so I had to live off my savings and uh
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: the money I earned in the edge head run.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so but what at what point are you in FCW,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: like moved in and who.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: I go so that that draft is like April, I
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: want to say I drove or maybe I just flew
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: and I went for a month and I lived with
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Trumperetta and his Uh well it's not even a one
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: bedroom what's that like a what's that called a studio apartment?
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: I lived with trimprad for a month and I went like,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: got it situated, signed the least or whatever, went back,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: and then I drove down and really moved moved and
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: we got like a new meet him, got a nice
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: two bedroom apartment to share, and that's ow it all.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: And it was one of, if not the you know.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Besides, you know, marrying my wife is one of the
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: best decisions in my life. For sure, saved my career,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: altered me as a pro wrestler, just you know, it
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: was the right thing to do because I didn't.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: Know who or what I was as a singles wrestler, and.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Then this way I really found out, you know, and
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: I stayed like I think trust me. I know, even
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: people in the company were like, holy shit, I can't
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: believe you did that. You know, even Johnny aces like
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: we don't think you suck, like we don't want you
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: to go, like we're not sending you there. I'm like,
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: all right, I'm just gonna go and I'm going to
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: out wrestle everybody and out shine these dudes that you
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: signed that you think are going to be something and
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: leapfrog them. And that's eventually what I did. You know,
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: it was a great idea, right all.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Right, let's put a pin in me asking you guys questions.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: So we've set the scene big time right now on
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: what sort of happened for at least that first half.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Let's ask you guys some questions from the people, and
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: then if there's any holes there, I will I will
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: finish us up. John Fisher, did you notice anyone in
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: the company, wrestlers or otherwise treating you differently backstage after
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: the breakup?
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: No?
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Uh, not with each other From Edge for sure, I
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: felt like you're like out of sight, out of mind,
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: jabrown to people instead of like Edges guys and tag
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: team champions.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: You do feel a difference there.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: You know where where Michael Ays might just walk past
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: you the hallway instead of acknowledge you.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but none of the boys. Not the boys now,
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: because then we'd already won that won the boys over.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah for sure.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: Like Michael Hayes is like I like Michael Hayes. I
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: have nothing bad to say about him, but like he's
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: really into you if the company is and he's not
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: into you the companies now.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Yes, agreed, agreed, Yeah.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Jared Saidwick, we know Broski becomes a woou guy in
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: ww ECW. Was there a gimmick that Brian wanted to
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: use but never got the go ahead to do so
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: from Vincent Creative? So we just talked about it. But
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: was there ever a gimmick that you sort.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Of show when I when I got right to uh
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: FCW is also right when uh Lance Archer got there, and.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: I'm like, this dude's money's big.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: I already knew, you know, Johnny As and Vince Love
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: big dudes like this is gonna work out. And that
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: show Rock of Love was on TV and I would
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: watch it from time to time, So I wanted to
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: be Brett Michaels like the love lorn and he was
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: like my security, my bodyguard, like a basically a Sean
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Diesel thing, and I pitched that, you know, and that
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: was like what I wanted, which is nuts because we eventually,
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: you know, it got shut down and no, no, no
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: biers on that. But like a year later we got
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: called up together as at Tag team, literally out of
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: thin air.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: So I thought that always that was kind of funny.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: But I thought it was kind of a funny gimmick
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: that I'm like looking for love and I had this
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: like necklace with like a heart on it that I
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: was supposed to post to give the girl, like when
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: I find the diva that I you know, I I
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: choose or whatever, and I get caught, you know, messing
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: around on an other be very entertaining.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's funny. That's cool. I never even heard
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: that ever. I know, Nathan Ramos, If y'all are able
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: to pull back the curtain a bit, how far in
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: advance were you were y'all told about winning the tag
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: titles for the first time, and was there any nerves
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: going into that match knowing y'all are going.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: Over minutes, I mean not minutes like that earlier in
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: that day before we were going over it.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: I remember the night before wherever we were, we had
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: like a run through the match, and obviously we didn't win, yeah,
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: which melbody, but you know that finish wasn't going to
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: be different.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: But that made me way more comfortable because we like
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: did it already, so it was like almost like a
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: dress rehearsal, you know, with a slightly different twist. So
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: like that did take a lot of the nerves out
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: of it. Also, going first always like feels easier, you know,
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: and so that anticipation, like the show is going on
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: and you're just waiting, and you're that fucking excite, that
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: excitements like in your belly, like I love wrestling so much,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: I just want to do it and get it over with.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Like that that waiting kills how many times am I
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: going to go over the goddamn matching? My head?
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: That too, that too, and then you start like playing
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: games in your mind and it's just like let's go, man.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Let me let me go first and eat that catering
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Matthew Manasis. After reaching such a high and an early
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: part in your career and plummeting shortly after, did you
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: feel like that was it for you guys in the
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: wrestling business.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: Oh man, Like listen the weird little at that the
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: year before we're main eventing. We're running in the main
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: event Edge was Undertaker as the Edge has I'm thinking, all, funck, Well,
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: next year we'll bring up We'll be the edgeheads like Explode.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: But no, we're lumberjacks in the fucking pre show. Like
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: what a fall from Grace?
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: It was bad.
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: Uh, we didn't give up, you know, but it's like,
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: what can you really do? But that we made all
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: those videos, we were pitching it. We were trying this stuff,
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: you know, and thank you like Ebana and Misson Morrison
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: for letting us be on their their web shows, But like,
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: what else can.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: We really do?
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, I get like we weren't being brought to TV.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: I'm this may sound nuts, but I've always been very
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: grateful for the highs and lows of that I've experienced
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: in wrestling, because he makes you appreciate them all. You know,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: you're not like some spoiled baby who's you know, only
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: been pushed to the moon by ww and paid all
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: this money. You know, it really helped us build like
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: character as wrestlers. As men makes you appreciate, you know,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: the little things, the big things and all that. I
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: think it's just has given me a better peace of mind.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: And yeah, and I'm also a very big Everything happens
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: for a reason guy, So you know I agree too, and.
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: You know to that point, like of course, do I
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: wish I was always like a in a better spot
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: and you know I made all his money. It was
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: all the pay per views and like sure, sure, but
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: like on the flip side, every like title everyone was
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: like a moment and was like a literally like scratching
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: claw friend, like people remember and you know, like whether
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: it was like that US title win after the YouTube
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: show where that I see a mania or when we
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: won you know, MetLife, like those were like not more
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: than just title wins.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: They were like moments.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: I feel like I feel like they were so big
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: because other people.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Really, I don't think people are going up to like
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Godfather or like ten Zi being like, man, I remember
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: when you won the icy title. I'll never forget it,
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, yeah, they did that
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: and it was accomplishment. But like I do feel like
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: ours meant something when they happened, and there were moments.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think our first tag team title win was
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: a regular like TENSEI Godfather win, but like, I.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: Don't know what I think. So in our hometown and
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: the open.
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: For us, it was special, But like I don't think
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: anyone really.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: As a fan, I agree with Broski on this one,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: but I think I think I forgot that you guys
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: even won the titles when we first started doing.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Force is a big Deal's let's say it's in between
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: the Mania moment and Baldough winning the Icy title was
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: definitely yeah.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: I mean I look at it right now, like I
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: got it like that the Ted team title, my dad
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: go out of me, like in a custom.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Shadow box.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: That year for Christmas. I'm I haven't hang on my
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: wall right here.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: And I love that belt, that belt like you know
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Edge had and Eddie Garo had and just you know
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: it's it's rending Free had it and we are. We
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: are combined age. We have the youngest tag team champions and.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: That's the asterist combined age.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: I believe there's younger people like Renee de Brie was
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: younger and he is younger, but there's someone, oh Dominic.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Almost really screwed us. But it's combined age. It's combined age. Yes, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, all.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Right, Michael Lpuma. Were you guys more excited or nervous
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: to be on your own?
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: I think at that point both, yeah. But I think
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: at that point we had been like dicked around for
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: like almost six months. It was like, all right, let's
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: let's let's fucking go, and somethings gotta change.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: The other thing is, like I said, I think we're
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: both like gaining confidence as wrestlers. But also, as we said,
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: we both have never ever been singles wrestlers. Never like
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: there's a handful of literally probably.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Like Broski had that run in w t W.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Well professional as a trained wrestler, I want to say
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: we' I would say we each had less than five
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: five or less singles matches to our name at this.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: Point, probably no more than ten. No way, no way.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Wow, that is insane, I know.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: So yeah, so that was a big like learning curve
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: for sure.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: All right, Joey beans, did you want to feud with
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: each other? If you did, would you guys have wanted
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: edge involved somehow?
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I think at that time it was no, there's no
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: steak in us, So what's the point of fuding. I yeah,
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: I knew that when I.
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: Became the Woo guy, I needed to be as different
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: than Edge and Zach Ryder as an edgehead and curt
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: Angs as possible.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: So I cut my hair.
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: I had the one legged tights, you know, the colorful outfits,
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: the sunglasses, all that, because I knew that if people
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: didn't know my name was Zach Ryder, they were, oh,
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: that's the guy with the one legged tight So that's
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: the guy with the headbander.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: That's the guy the woo who doesn't woo woo. You know.
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: I just needed to separate myself from the edgeheads and
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: and Edge because it worked, but it ran its course
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: and it was over and I just had to be
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: totally different.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: I used to think about that when we were on
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: the indies. I'd be like, oh, man, you know, when
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: we break up and we have like this dreaming and
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: raven type feud. I used to think about that. But
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: in the other runs never because they never got to
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: that point.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: I think the last run could have maybe gotten there,
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: but not like at the point it was at.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: No Edgeheads run certainly not.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Definitely not and definitely not anything major brothers or you know, yeah.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Stand bor, was there a point where you guys were
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: really trying to separate yourselves from each other? If so,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: what were some of your initial ideas? So, like, I
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: mean we kind of talked about this.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, watch the video on YouTube.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: It really it's really that's like our biggest attempt. It
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: was me switching the trunks, him staying along, tights not matching.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: I kind of like that.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: We never matched as a tag team except the edge stuff. Yeah,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: you know, by accident. Maybe a couple of times we've
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: had like colored gear, but not you know, all.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Right, Richard Grimes, is this When Brian started using the cane,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I always thought that was a cool touch. Added how
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: did he come up with that?
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: So that's not really so uh, that's this is what
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: the cane is. About.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: A year and a half later and I've tagged with
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Archer and then I started to tag with I Do Nothing,
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: and then I tagged with Rex, and I just got
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: so infatuate with Brian Pillman, like loose Cannon era stuff,
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: and that's all I would watch and I was like obsessed,
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: and I just loved that moment when he debuts in
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: the cyn the lights are off and then he's just
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: standing there with the cane, and I thought that was
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: just really cool and unique.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: And what I was.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Really looking for the total origin of the cane besides
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: that is I just wanted something to differentiate me, like
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: I was the white guy with the cane, you know
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: what I mean, Like there's just like as.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: This two by four.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: You know, I forethought, like people have done this for
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: the history of time, Like why can't I be the
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: cane guy?
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Yep?
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: That was it. It's what you remember. You know, Coco
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: had the bird, Hawkins said the cane. That was That
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: was what I was trying to do.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: All right, here's a good one. Brian Doposo. Well, I'm
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: sure the objective was sustaining at WWE once the edge
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: heads were split and you guys were shoveled down the
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: card to do either of you keep an eye on
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: any indies slash TNA slash, try and make any contacts
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: to set something up.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: In case Nope, no's weren't what they ought. You can't
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: you couldn't like make a living on the indies back then,
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: especially with not off the names that we had.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Not enough.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But on the flip side of that, I literally,
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: okay at this point when I go to FCW's when
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: i'd like really discover PWG for the first time, and
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Trent and I got so into it, and we would
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: order it from High Spots the DVD every month, and
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: like Tyson Kid would come over and we'd hang out
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: and wah and Johnny Curtis Fandango and we'd all just
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: hang and watch. Always watch that. I've always up until honestly,
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: like like four three or four years ago, I was
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: always our way from day one, watched everything. See I
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: don't think I've ever missed impact in like twenty years,
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: like I've been a fan or at least like fouled
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: the product for twenty years as well, just because I
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: just love wrestling. I love it in all shapes and size,
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: this kind of thing. So I'm always aware of that.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: I wasn't thinking of like politically, where my friends were
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: and if I could get in places I don't know.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: I wasn't even really thinking about that.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Right Sam a yacht. What is the vibe like in
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: the locker room back then? Do wrestle, do veterans sit
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: with veterans or is everyone close? Were there any fights
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: or tense moments you guys witnessed.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: I think this is about like the changing of the
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: guard time, you know, where the guys like Holly and
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: jbl are starting to kind of leaving, you know, it's
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: trying to go. Yeah, so this is definitely like the hour,
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: like eight oh nine is kind of like the changing
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: of the guard.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: You know, it was fun, man, We had that year
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: on the road with Edge and and you know, post
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: Edge was an absolute blast and it was a party.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: It was fun. It was you know, good camaraderie.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: I made some bad decisions Ed Jimmy wad Yag and
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: Super Crazy and Brian Ketdrick.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fun. It's a fun time.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: We're young, all right, JUNIORI Boyd written very weirdly. But
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: do you guys think that there was some more juice
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: left in the law familiar thing with like the team
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: holding all the gold and all that.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, And the Edge nothing to really do
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: with Matt and I, but Edge and VICKI that angle
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: of itself was unbelievable and had so much legs that that.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: Could have kept going for who knows, you know, I.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Always, looking back, the biggest thing we should have put
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: pushed for a T shirt and had like a logo Yeah, yes,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: you need a big, big, big mistake that I don't
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: know the way I kind of am.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: But Broski really is like how we didn't think of that?
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Andrew King, was it an easy or hard
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: decision for Matt to cut his hair short after being
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: long for years? Did he have to push more? We
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: already talked about that.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: But I hated long haird only some of the wet
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: some of the ugliest long hair in the history of
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: the business. And there's that picture of us, like brutally
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: hungover at that access where he wrestled Charlie Haas that
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: surfaced in the Facebook group, the Patreon facebook group and
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: the comments on I just have run wild and it's
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: all about Broski's hair because it literally like it's.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: All like dehydrated.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: It looks like a mullet almost like it hated So
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: what was.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Your what was your hairstyle? Like you're just going out,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: so it's not wet, So what would you do?
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: I'd have to like slick it back and like the
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: mand bun, but not like this wasn't like man bun,
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: like brock leslar man bun, it was like like all
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: the way in the back, man bud, like fordy tail,
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: but like tuck that tail.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, man, Christy Giovanni, what I did? Dias? Was there
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: any so that we haven't talked about? Were there any
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: more ideas.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: That you pitched? I don't think then that we missed.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Here's a fun question. I love this. Aaron Ortiz Brian,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: what was it like working with Vance Archer aka Lance Archer?
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: What have you seen Archer improve on other than his
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: hairstyle since the time period with you?
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Actually his current hair. I don't know how he lives
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: his life with that neon red rattail. Holy smokes. I
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: love tagling him. I thought we really clicked. I just
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: like that. I never I never got it. This is
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: over ten years now, dude, Like this is how it
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: went in my head. I've done like if just about
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: then a year in FCW, Johnny East calls me and
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: he basically plays me like works me. He's like, you
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: know you're doing good, and we see potential and everyone
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: loves you, and you know we'll eventually find something for you.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: So I want to get you his new contract. It
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: had like a smidge of a bump in the money
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: and I have for three more years whatever blah blah blah,
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: and I was like, okay, cool. I was just grateful
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: for it. And then next week I got called up,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: so he knew I was getting called up and he
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: wanted to get me while I was like powerless, which
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: completely worked business one on one. That's Johnny as is
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: therefore got me. I re signed and then just had
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: to know whether there like we're gonna put you with Archer
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: and you're gonna be a team.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: We're like okay, and then we're like.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: And you knew him because you were training with them
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: and all that.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: He had come to FCW, he got randomly called up
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: ato ECW and like fizzled out very quickly as the singles,
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: and then I think they decided to put us together
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: like which I loved, and I liked him as a dude.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: You know, we were friendly enough and he was doing nothing,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: and then I was it was getting me out of
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: develop mental so I was pumped. And then you know,
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: this is not my pitch nothing. We're running through top guys,
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: like we beat Matt already and Christian, We're jumping guys,
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: beating MVP.
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: Like doing all this cool stuff.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Or like, I want to say, a month and then
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: we had this like stinker match with MVP and JTG
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: and it just and that was on Superstars and it
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: just died, like just died, died dead.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: What was bad about the match?
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: It's not really the it's just not a good match.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: It's not like it's not like a it's not buff
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: Booker t end of wsw on raw thing like it's
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: just just wasn't great. I liked, I said, I don't
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: have the answers, and I've never got the answers, and
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know what that'll happen. I always thought that
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: some of the producers didn't dig Archer and they were
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: always like, not really in his corner was my thought.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: I have no proof of this, nothing really, but that's
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: the sense I felt. And they split us for no
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: reason one day and then he was fired like very
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: shortly after they kept me so and I think that's
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: when the good Karon Hawkins is a good hand ish
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: kind of begins good hand walking.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, so but okay, watching him now, has he even
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: proved on anything? Like what are you like? Oh damn cool?
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: I love the way it's now like super aggressive and
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: you know, completely revamped what he was.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: It's funny, like if you know Lance, he's like ridiculously nice.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: So to see him on television and play that guy
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: that's supposed to be like this menacing psychopath. That's me
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: and everybody. He's a big, big, you know, change, So
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: it's cool to see. I'm happy for him, happy for
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: his success. Dude, he's being at this for a long time.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: He's gotten up there in age. He's got an awesome
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: look now. I mean, I'm happy for his success.
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: And he moves so well for somebody who's a so
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: big and not that he's so old, but like he's
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: not a young dude. Definitely pretty moves just as well
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: as he did ten fifteen years ago, and I think
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: he looks better.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: I'm back to the beginning. I love tagging with him.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: I thought it was fun as hell. I loved the dynamic,
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: big guy, little guy like we would do live events
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: ruled he used to.
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: He had the tramp stamp back then, and that was
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: like instant heat man. Everywhere we went.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: It was so fun, like they were trying tramp damn
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: tram stamp and I go up behind and hike up
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: his pants and go shut h shushit. It was just
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: like it didn't matter where we were. If they didn't
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: who we were, boom you got him like it was
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: so it was fun man, it was really funny. He
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: was right cool to like something Brusky never likes to
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: do with me, like go over stuff or like come
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: up with new moves and stuff like shit like that.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: He was like super cool about everything, and we really
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: enjoyed it. It was just so so short lived, Joseph.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: After the breakup, was there any effects on your collecting habits?
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Was it something that became secondary to focusing on your career?
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: Both? This is when this it's just.
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: Because because Jack's loses the license. So here's the deal.
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: Jack's loses the license, matel takes over. We heard through
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: the grape vine that we were I'm sure never even
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: got the prototype stage that we were supposed to be
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: in the first two back, but we're not.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: In the like why is it the word escaping me?
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: We were in the like the list, right, Yeah, so
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: that's that's right.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: So then when those lineup we made, we made the lineup, right, But.
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: Then when the when the actual figures come out, it's
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: like such a year behind that like the writings on
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: the wall that oh my god, there's no way they're
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: getting the MATEL figure me anytime soon.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: I'm in f C W know and it's not even
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: on the table. And also like Jack's, we knew Jack's
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: was done because we were like, you know, hip to
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: the industry and what's going on, and like.
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: That last year of Jack's is I mean, no, no deco.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: It's not even worth collecting or looking for, you know,
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: So like it was over man beside, I remember the
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: last thing I got excited about was getting uh Tyson
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: kids first action.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: Figured that was it. I mean, then it was over
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: for me.
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: And one thing that sucked for us is that we
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: I mean we do have the the sample of it
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: and the handpaint of prototype. We were supposed to have
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: uh A two pack of us in the gear where
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: we won the take team titles. This was some of
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: the kids tag team title Walmart exclusive and it gets cut.
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: But the good news is we got the prototype.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: Did we get the handpain the one or just a
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: sample both? I have both. I'm looking at my collestion.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: I don't know where my prototype is. I have both.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: I have I have and I have two samples, like, oh,
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: I might have sold the other second sample actually recently. Yeah,
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm collecting at this point. Second,
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: like I was really into like wrestling DVDs.
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: I'm like, so I'm not defeated by the business in
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: any like like way, shape or form, but it's like
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: I'm not like overly positive and loving it that I
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: want to be buying the toys, if that makes sense.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: After the Edgehead's run was over, where there are more
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: people in the locker room that knew about your collecting
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: habits and were accepting of them. So around this time
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: was that coming out or I don't not really, that
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: didn't come for later years.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I don't even I still at this one.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: We're not just talking about that, okay for sure, not
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: not amongst casuals. Like our closest friends obviously know because
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: if they travel with us, they'd know it. It's like
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: to like stop and look for things and whatever, you know,
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: that kind of thing.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I know you guys have talked about
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: this like that you thought that this would happen. But
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Russ Linderman asks, were there any plans ever discussed for
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: a feud with edge or Chavo like anything out loud
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: between anybody other than the two never Brian chairs, did
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: you guys keep in touch with Edge after the breakup?
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: I know you guys still talk today, but immediately after
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: the split, was he still available for you guys to
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: talk and get advice from.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's right right there with Brosky unless he's
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: on raw. But now, oh, you know what, he tears
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: his achilles and I like hang out with him in
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: his house all the time because he lived in Tampa
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: and that's where FCW was. Uh So the summer, early
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: summer of nine, he tears his achilles and he's like
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: out out for a good while.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Achilles is a bad injury, It's.
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: A bad sports injury.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: So then he would invite like me, Trent and like
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: Canlacroft over, like all the time.
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: We'd go watch all the papers at his place.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Was it was like I got even closer to him,
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: believe it or not, in the move.
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: It was really crazy.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: And now he does our show opening every year.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: It's true. Yeah, it's a tradition. Tradition.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Anthony Diaz, How was it working with Chavo Guerrero. Any
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: advice he gave you? Guys, we did that awesome interview
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: with him recently.
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I love Java. I think that was a year ago,
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: b year ago. I don't know if he's.
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: Ever given us like, you know, I can't think of
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: one thing that he has said specifically, but just being
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: around him, you know what. Fuck I'll say this, and
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: this is not something he ever said, but he on
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: tour would bring so much different gear, like different tights
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: for every night of the loop, and that's something that
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: stuck with me. I think it's just very professional.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Java was always a good dude. Uh, fun to be around,
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: takes his shirt off a lot. Yeah, life of the
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: party of those he's life for the party type of guy. Yeah,
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: for sure, I love you.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: That's interesting. I just did a Gallos.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: Show with him and he was awesome to be around
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: and in great shape.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: So well. He thought my tie holder was very o CD,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: like I bring my ties in a tie case. Anthony Diaz,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Oh no, that was him. Uh. He asked how where
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: the Zach Ryder character was inspired from? But we don't
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: even talk about that. All right, let's finish this out.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Did Yeah, we already talked about that. Okay, what's like
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: the close off to this period in your mind. What
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: what where are you? Guys? I'm so brosky. You're on ECW.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: You get some some notable.
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: Feuds, like it does so much for me, and I
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: feel like that could be its own like episode because
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: you know the Rory Fox incident, you know wherever boff
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: is tights, you know. Then I get put in these
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: matches with Christian, then I get I get trusted with
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: a microphone, and it gives me the confidence, you know
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: to cut these these live promos and stuff like that.
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: And then also to the wrestle guys like Christian, uh
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: who a not only one of the best wrestlers, like
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: of all type of one of my favorites for sure,
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: and like that first match that I have with him, like,
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: oh my god, I am so blown up and he's
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: absolute probaly can carry me through. And we talked about
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: like not having singles matches and then I'm doing a
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: couple of squashes and then I'm wrestling in the World
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: champ you know, so if he get.
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: From three segs or whatever, yeah, yeah.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: So so the LIX, So why don't we button that
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: and then the next show we'll talk about sort of
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: ECW two, the the YouTube show, and then Brian, how
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: do how will we get closing out this? When do
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: you get called back up?
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: It's like the same time twenty May of twenty ten,
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: and then if you do a year from that, that's
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: about when you start the show.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: And I think we're both un raw at that point
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: we get both.
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: Because what happens is, you know, the ECW run is great,
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: but like, uh, there's so there's so much like starting stuff.
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: Like there were times where I tell like, oh my god,
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: like I'm gonna win this ECW title, like legit, like
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: like this could actually happen, like I retire Tommy Dreamer,
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: like things were going great. Uh, and then I'll never
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: forget Johnny Ace pulls the whole ECW roster aside. It
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: says like ECW's is dead next week.
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: What then they start.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: Were being there being like well that's weird. There was
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: this weird meeting because that on s back down.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: So I was there.
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: And there's no but when did you debut again May
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: twenty ten? Yeah, but you weren't on Smackdad yet because
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: this is like January ten, Tuary.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: Remember they sent me to Rumble just to do like
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: photos and stuff. I think it was that weekend. I
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: know you're saying it because that's how NXC starts, like
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: in February.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting.
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: That's why then I get, you know, all the success
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: that I had on E c W. You know, now
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: I moved to raw and this expression, you know, I
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: hate using it, but it's it's true.
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: I was a big fish in.
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: A small pond on EA c W and then I
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: moved to raw and I just got lost in the
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: shuffle instantly, you know.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: Of course, It's just it's just was unfortunate. It's just
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: one of those things.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: So and the first time you're back, Brian, is that
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: failed run with.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: Archer, the bizarre Archer tag run.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you go back after that?
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: Or you're then I'm up till like IET fired two years.
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: Okay, so then you're you're not at that. You're not
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: at that WrestleMania, right, Brian, Dude.
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: That was wild, Like papaupar I can tell you about that.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: So in my WW run, my friends, my like like
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: civilian friends as I would call them, like high school
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: buddies like Papa Bear and stuff would come to WrestleMania.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: So the first year was Orlando, and like I said,
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: I'm twenty two, twenty three, like single, Like this is
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: like a destination like awesome thing for me and all
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: my friends in my family too. So that one, you know,
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: we do Orlando, then my friends going to Dallas or
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: we're not sorry Houston, So this one is Phoenix and
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: I'm in FCW, but I'm like, but I'm still a
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: main roster guy and I stillot that was responsibilities in
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: that contract. So I was like talking to the office
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: like am I going?
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: Am I going?
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: I never got a straight answer, and then like man,
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: like I want to say three or four days before
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: they're like you're not needed for access or whatever, You're
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: not going. So I had like call my buddies and
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: be like, bro, we got to change your tickets to
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: TAMP And then it was a very light week of
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: like FCW duty's because like most people were at Mania
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: or whatever, you know, Hall of Fame a lot of stuff.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: So we just had the best time, like Raged with
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: Johnny Curtis and Tampa went out every night.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: It was so fun.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: I had like very fond memories of it, like like
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: an awesome time ended up being. But that's so I
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: missed the Mania and that's not the first time I
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: missed Mania the Daniel Bryan Yere thirty. I was also
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: under contract and they just did not bring me like
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: the ultimate, the ultimate piece of shit feeling. I could
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: do that.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was before you got fired and I
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: get fired like a month or two later for the
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: first time.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that Mania.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: I'm in the Battle Royal and I last to the
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: final two with Yoshi Tatsu and he wins.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So what do we want to do for the
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: next one? Do we do?
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: I feel Brian gets called up to like where when
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: it gets swir dish.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: I feel like too much.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: I feel like we're I feel like now we're too
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: separate where it's like it's too separate and you're in
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: cringing on his other podcast, Like I think like I think, yeah,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: I think we did it. I mean I think we started.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: We did it some new concepts.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Because like there's no name Mark Malibu, next time mark Malibu.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is your life. I mean.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: The only thing I can think of is if you
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: like press fast forward on your remote and you go
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: to how we start as a team again.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Could do that.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: I'm sure people have interested in that.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: That's so fresh in people's brains. I bet you they
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: have tons of questions.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah so, I mean, and that could be since the
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: run wasn't that long, it could be the entire run
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: from from doing.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: Nothing to get fired.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: Sure, yea, that there's really no reason to do like
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: what did you do this week?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: Brian, what do you do this week?
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, this was this was the story of
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: us together and this is kind of how we went
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: our separate ways.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: Not not to mention he has like the writer revolution
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: going on, and I'm like, wrestling, JTG and Superstars is
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: not really much to.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: Like to talk about to compare it to you.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: Know, I think these episodes are really cool and it's
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: like a history lesson is a trip down memory lane,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: and I think, you know, I do think we can
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: revisit because it's definitely things we didn't talk about, especially
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: Deep South. Goddamn, it's fucking insane went down there. But
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: uh yeah, this this this breaking up of the edgeheads,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: it was. It was bittersweet, of course, you don't want
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: to lose, you know, like that spot being with the
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: world champion and then.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: When you're young and that green like I remember just
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: thinking this is never going to end kind of thing,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: you know. That's the way I did feel about it.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: So it was it was a good life lesson, you know,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: blessing in disguise. Well, I got a year of tutelage
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: from the American Dream Dusty Roads that was invaluable and
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: instilled the confidence in me to talk, which is something
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: we basically never did, you know something it was that
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: was a tool that I needed in my tool belt
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: badly and didn't even realize. And I got, like, you know,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: the best education you can get. Yeah, for sure, I'm
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: super grateful for that. That's another thing that altered my career.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: And then on the flip side, where Brosky's like he's
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: wrestling Christian you know some of the best wrestlers of
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: the world.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: I'm the opposite.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: I'm wrestling you know, David David o'tanga in his third match,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: Ye had the Bray Wyatt and Bo Dallas in their
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: fifth match, like trying to pull like I learned in
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: that sense, like trying to pull something out of these
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: super young, you know, green guys, like trying to you know,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: bring them up to my level, which wasn't much.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: But still higher than what they were.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: You know, that's another stepping stone of like my learning
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: is like a wrestler, you know, being in those situations. Yeah,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: and then on the flip side, eventually I got to like,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: you know, I wrestled Brian Danielson and Loki and all
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: these like pretty crazy, awesome, big time matches.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: All right, well, great job guys, thanks for asking us
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: questions this month, and we'll be back next month with
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: I joined your lives at this point, so I'll remember
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: some of these.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're in some of this.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, thanks guys.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: See it.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: How shock
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: The Tap