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Andrew Schulz _ This Past Weekend w_ Theo Von _569(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: I have some tour dates to tell you about. We'll
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  Speaker 1: be coming to College Station, Texas, Belton, Texas, Oxford, Mississippi, Tuscaloosa, Alabama, Chicago,
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  Speaker 1: and Miami. All tickets at theovon.com slash T-O-U-R. Make sure
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  Speaker 1: to not go to any secondhand site. Just go through
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  Speaker 1: the links at theovon.com slash T-O-U-R. Today's guest is a
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  Speaker 1: stand-up comedian. He's a podcaster. He has a new special
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  Speaker 1: called Life on Netflix. It is miraculously done. I'm very
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  Speaker 1: thankful to have him return to the podcast. Today's guest
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  Speaker 1: is Mr. Andrew Schultz. Good to see you, man. Good
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  Speaker 1: to see you, too.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations on the child. Thank you, bro. Appreciate that. Congratulations
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  Speaker 2: on all your success. Thanks, man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate it, dude. I'm like 17 minutes into
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  Speaker 1: your special right now.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, cool, cool, cool, cool.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, the control you have on stage, that's something I
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  Speaker 1: really admire. It's almost like a sharpshooter up there. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But the way you have this control on stage is something.
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  Speaker 1: It's great.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, man. I appreciate that, brother. Yeah, it's cool, man.
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  Speaker 2: How many times did you guys shoot?
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  Speaker 1: Twice? We did four shows.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, two a night.
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  Speaker 1: God, that venue is so beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: It's shot so well.
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  Speaker 1: Who shot it?
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: So I had my guys do it, like Shifty edited it.
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  Speaker 3: I forget the guys, who's the DP. And then Troy
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  Speaker 3: Miller was the director. Yeah, it's tricky. Filming stand-up is
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  Speaker 3: so tricky. Especially when you do these, you know, we're
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  Speaker 3: used to just kind of doing it all ourselves, so
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  Speaker 3: then you go do a special. And you kind of
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  Speaker 3: realize that like each department is fighting against one another.
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  Speaker 3: Like the video department wants to make it look beautiful,
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  Speaker 3: but making it look beautiful might make the audio sound bad.
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  Speaker 3: The audio department wants to make it sound beautiful. What
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  Speaker 3: makes it sound beautiful might mean your mic is really
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  Speaker 3: low in the room, so now the show could be
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  Speaker 3: shitty for the audience.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: So there's like all these, like we had speakers, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if you know, it was like in the front.
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  Speaker 3: Like usually a lot of times people don't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I saw you one time you had your
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  Speaker 2: foot up on it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like most.
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  Speaker 3: People don't do that because the shot is more beautiful
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  Speaker 3: if you just have like raw stage. But I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I think that the special would be better if the
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  Speaker 3: audience enjoys it the most.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: That's why I agree with that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because if they have fun, you have fun.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. There was one, I think it was like show one.
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  Speaker 3: And there was like miscommunication or something. The camera guy
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  Speaker 3: was a really sweet guy, but like he thought it
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  Speaker 3: was his job to just keep walking down the aisle
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  Speaker 3: and back up the aisle with the camera. And I'm like, bro,
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  Speaker 3: they got to believe that this is kind of just happening.
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  Speaker 3: And when you walk in front of them with a camera,
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  Speaker 3: the illusion kind of falls apart, right? They feel like
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  Speaker 3: they're part of a filming instead of like just part
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  Speaker 3: of this show. So yeah, that's the tricky thing. I
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  Speaker 3: wish I didn't even have to tell them we were filming.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah ah you know what i mean like right just
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  Speaker 1: make it be a regular show this is just a
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  Speaker 1: show so if you guys yell out or do something
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  Speaker 1: this is as natural as it could possibly be you
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  Speaker 1: could have probably could have done that in hindsight.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah i mean earlier ones i was able to do
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  Speaker 3: that but i think this one i don't know this
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  Speaker 3: one maybe i was like nervous i was like fuck
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  Speaker 3: i really want to make sure that we could you
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  Speaker 3: know fill that place four times and you know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know huge venue it's beautiful what is that yes.
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  Speaker 1: The beacon in new york wow yeah it's pretty Yeah, dude,
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  Speaker 1: this looks, I mean, I thought I was like, this
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  Speaker 1: is unbelievable looking. Oh, thanks, man. Yeah, you guys crushed it.
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  Speaker 1: Even the font that they chose for Andrew Schultz's life
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  Speaker 1: I thought was perfect. There was just a lot of
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  Speaker 1: great choices, I thought. Yeah, the first.
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  Speaker 3: Netflix special, the first thing that comes up on the
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  Speaker 3: black screen, that's actually my wife's handwriting.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: She wasn't aware that that's what it was, but it was,
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  Speaker 3: because I don't know how far you are in the
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  Speaker 3: special yet, but most of it is this like journey
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  Speaker 3: of us trying to get pregnant.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's where I'm at. I'm at to like, let me think. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: after you saw the baby, but you haven't gone through
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  Speaker 1: the journey about getting pregnant. It's just the actual seeing
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  Speaker 1: the child, I guess. The C-section story and all that
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, it's incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Congrats, man.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks, man.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, good to see you, man.
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  Speaker 1: Good to see you, man. It's unbelievable, bro. Unbelievable. It's
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  Speaker 1: freaking been a while, dude. You've been caught up in
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  Speaker 1: some beef. You were in the fucking rat beef. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, this dude, I thought you were going to
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  Speaker 1: pop out at Super Bowl. You know I was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to go to the Super Bowl. I was supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be part of the show. I was like, how wild
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  Speaker 1: is this shit going to get? No, we were going
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  Speaker 1: to go, actually. You were there, right? No, I didn't go, man.
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  Speaker 1: Me and David Spade started making that movie, and so
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  Speaker 1: we had to shoot that.
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  Speaker 2: How's that going? It's interesting, man. It's done.
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  Speaker 1: Do you like.
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  Speaker 3: Because I remember years ago when we were doing the pod,
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  Speaker 3: there was a, hopefully you don't feel bad about me sharing,
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  Speaker 3: but you had some frustration with not being able to
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  Speaker 3: create these projects. Do you remember us having these conversations
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  Speaker 3: where you really wanted to make a TV show and
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  Speaker 3: didn't feel like those doors were open, and now you're
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  Speaker 3: making this movie, you're on top of the world, it
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  Speaker 3: must feel pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think we just did it ourselves. Nobody wanted
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  Speaker 1: to make it. We took it out, we took it
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  Speaker 1: to the streamers, and we... Oh, you created your own movie? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You filmed it before even... No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Pitching it to them?
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  Speaker 2: We pitched it first.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Right, so we pitched it and nobody.
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  Speaker 1: No way.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, dude, we couldn't get. And it was Spade, you know?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like. Even with you and Spade at this point.
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  Speaker 2: In your career, there was still hesitation.
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  Speaker 1: I just felt like it would have been nice to
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  Speaker 1: feel some support there, you know? Yeah. Like, it just
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  Speaker 1: would have been like, hey, look, just even as a
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  Speaker 1: good faith thing, we'll do, you know, something.
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  Speaker 3: Also, you probably got PTSD, too, from, like, years of
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  Speaker 3: wanting to do these things and not really feeling it.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 1: And then, like, now you're at this point where you're
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  Speaker 1: on top of the world.
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  Speaker 3: You're like, all right, now everybody's going to give me
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  Speaker 3: the opportunity. And then to still feel that, oh, that sucks. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but then I realized it's just life. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 3: I didn't feel like, I don't know if I felt
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  Speaker 3: on top, I felt like this was a brave thing
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  Speaker 3: we were trying to do.
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  Speaker 2: It was a new thing I was learning.
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  Speaker 1: But I felt like with Spade, it kind of was
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  Speaker 1: going to be okay because he knows what he's doing.
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  Speaker 1: That's the other thing. Giving us money to make a movie,
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  Speaker 1: we're kind of knuckleheads. It's kind of a bad idea. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it is.
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  Speaker 3: To us, it's a great idea. We're like, we'll figure
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  Speaker 3: it out. They're like, have you done this before? And
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, nah, but it's a movie, right? It can't
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  Speaker 3: be that hard, right? But a guy like Spade, he's
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  Speaker 3: done it before. Yeah, he'll fucking know. He'll have the
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  Speaker 3: camera in his trunk of his car.
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  Speaker 1: Everything will be fine.
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  Speaker 4: It's easy.
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  Speaker 1: We got it all figured out. Yeah, why do we
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  Speaker 1: have that attitude? Like, we want to make a movie
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  Speaker 1: and it costs $ 30 million. And we're like, these fucking assholes.
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  Speaker 1: How dare they not give us $ 30 million even though
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  Speaker 1: we've proven we can do nothing. What is that about?
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  Speaker 1: That's a great point.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of on us a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, totally. Is that narcissism? Is it ego? Yeah. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think I would never think, give me dirt. I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't like, if they even try to do something like that,
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  Speaker 1: I'd be like, this is insane. But I think what
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  Speaker 1: I realized then was I just want to do something.
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  Speaker 1: If I can do it by myself, whether it's win
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  Speaker 1: or lose, it's like, yes, I'd rather make it something small.
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  Speaker 1: And then, and even if some like was like, let, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: come do it with us or some studio. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to do that. It's like, I just want to
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  Speaker 1: do something that it's like, okay, will people like this?
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  Speaker 1: Will they believe that I tried my best? Like, even
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  Speaker 1: if it's not that good, it's like, That's okay, I
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  Speaker 1: can just tell people that go to see it in advance, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be that.
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  Speaker 2: Great in it, but it'll be a cool movie.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't wanna lie to, it's just like, as
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  Speaker 1: long as there's this transparency, then I think it's fine.
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  Speaker 3: I think people admire those that take risks. I think
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  Speaker 3: that's almost like an American thing in general. We like
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  Speaker 3: risk takers, we like people who are brave. And I
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  Speaker 3: wonder if it's baked in our DNA a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: like our family members that left their families around the world.
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  Speaker 3: to never see them again for like maybe an opportunity here.
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  Speaker 3: Like I think that we're probably, we have like the
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  Speaker 3: DNA of the biggest risk takers on the planet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like Christopher Columbus, dude, like what about his sister
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  Speaker 2: or whatever?
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  Speaker 1: Shit, boring bitch.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she just got left in fucking wherever.
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  Speaker 1: And probably lived a way better life. She's not learning
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  Speaker 1: Native American. She's just chilling.
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  Speaker 2: She's out over here lying to Indians for fucking, for lunch.
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  Speaker 2: Just shows up, what do you mean there's no gold? But, dude,
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  Speaker 2: imagine taking off in a boat.
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  Speaker 1: People are like, where are you headed? You're like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't fucking know. You're trying to be cool, right? Because
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  Speaker 1: it's like your last day on the docks or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, I don't know. We'll figure it out when
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  Speaker 1: we get out there. Like, when we get out there.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to be selling the dream, though. You're like, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: trust me. That's true. Trust me.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy over there. Yeah, they got everything.
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  Speaker 1: Women, they get out there. I heard they could get
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  Speaker 1: a couple miles out there. There's just a lot of
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  Speaker 1: women out there. They got them on the way. You
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  Speaker 1: don't even have to make it the whole way. They
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  Speaker 1: got stops. Yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 3: So anyway, so I think like naturally, you know, you
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  Speaker 3: get a lot of success. There are going to be
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  Speaker 3: people that enjoy seeing you fail or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 3: But unfortunately, I guess human beings, we got that in
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  Speaker 3: us a little bit. But I do also feel like
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  Speaker 3: the people that ride for you appreciate the risk that
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  Speaker 3: you'd be taking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I do think all of us as comedians, I think
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  Speaker 2: they do.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reasons why comedians and
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  Speaker 1: podcasts maybe does well is because, well, for one, I
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  Speaker 1: think we try to– This sounds fucking egomaniacal.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea. Say it, say it, say it.
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  Speaker 2: But no, I heard.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody say that like a lot of podcasters, they're just
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out the truth. They just, they're not like,
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  Speaker 1: we don't work for anybody. So it's like you, if
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  Speaker 1: you ask somebody a question, it's just because you want
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  Speaker 1: to know. It's not because like there's a producer saying, let's,
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  Speaker 1: let's get this answer.
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  Speaker 3: Curiosity is kind of punished in a way, but maybe
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  Speaker 3: it's because they'll put us on such a pedestal.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, you should know the answer to these things.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, well, I don't. And that's why this guy's here.
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  Speaker 3: because I'm trying to figure out the answer to it.
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  Speaker 3: And I just want to know their take.
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  Speaker 1: Right. I might not even be able to communicate that
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  Speaker 1: well a rebuttal or grill them that way. but I
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  Speaker 1: just want to like. I want to grill them. I
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  Speaker 1: want to know what they think. And then I'll bring
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  Speaker 1: somebody else who thinks something different and I'll ask him that.
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  Speaker 3: And, but yeah, that is, I guess maybe some criticism
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  Speaker 3: is like, well, why'd you ask, why didn't you ask
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  Speaker 3: this question or why didn't you rebuke, rebuke that?
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, bro, I don't know. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: anything just yet. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a politician.
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  Speaker 1: Like I got in this own trap of just cause
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  Speaker 1: the last year we got to have some political people
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  Speaker 1: on the podcast and I was like, Dude, there was
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  Speaker 1: like a month ago I started thinking like, oh, I'm
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  Speaker 1: a political guy, right? Did you feel like you had
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  Speaker 1: to be informed where you're like reading wall street? I
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  Speaker 1: just like, I thought like, cause here was a crazy thing.
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  Speaker 1: People started coming up to me. Well, people would come
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  Speaker 1: up to me and ask me about political shit. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, like asking your take. I don't know, dude. Like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, or like, so, but then I started realizing
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  Speaker 1: how people's perceptions are affected, like how they see people,
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  Speaker 1: where they see them at and stuff. And then I
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  Speaker 1: was like, well, I do have some political thoughts. Like,
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  Speaker 1: Most of them are just kind of regular people's kind
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  Speaker 1: of thoughts and ideas. Like they're not super in depth.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think for like a week I started
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  Speaker 1: smoking my own nuts and thinking I was like fucking J.
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  Speaker 2: Edgar Hoover or somebody, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I actually think that like whatever your perception of your
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  Speaker 3: feelings are about something, that's actually more valuable than what
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  Speaker 3: the like factual truth is.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because most people aren't reading up on the factual truth.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Like you got to meet people where they are emotionally. Right.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good point. And the people are trusting their gut.
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  Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, when you do just talk to
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  Speaker 1: somebody and you don't let the people, let people decide, well,
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  Speaker 1: do I think I believe that guy? Do I, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and then they get to decide.
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  Speaker 3: And you might hate what that person says, but don't
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  Speaker 3: dismiss him because there might be a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: that feel that same way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Like, there's a lot of people, like, I've heard people
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  Speaker 2: say this a lot.
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  Speaker 3: They go, you know, the economy actually wasn't that bad,
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  Speaker 3: you know, under Biden or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like, bro, bro, bro, bro.
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  Speaker 3: You can't tell somebody who feels the economy is bad
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  Speaker 3: that it's not bad.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good point. Right?
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  Speaker 3: Like if they feel like the eggs are expensive, that's
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  Speaker 3: what they feel. It's like I would say this. Like
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  Speaker 3: if I get into an argument with my wife, like
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  Speaker 3: I do something to piss her off. And like she
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  Speaker 3: doesn't want me to explain to her why she shouldn't
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  Speaker 3: be upset. Right, like that never works. Right, like I
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  Speaker 3: know you're upset, but you shouldn't be because of these reasons.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, fuck you. She just wants me to be like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: my bad, I'm sorry I made you feel that way.
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  Speaker 3: And I feel like our whole political discourse, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't know anything about politics, but I feel like the
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  Speaker 3: whole political discourse is just like, you're wrong because, and
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: then the others are going, you're wrong because. And then
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: it's just shows set up to dunk on one another.
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  Speaker 3: Like there's no good faith conversation. And the second we're
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  Speaker 3: out here having like a good faith conversation, like we
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  Speaker 3: bring somebody on and we're just like, All right, so
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  Speaker 3: what do you feel about the world?
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  Speaker 1: People go to us like.
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  Speaker 2: You fucking asshole.
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  Speaker 1: How dare you not dunk on that guy? How dare
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  Speaker 1: you not humiliate him on your podcast so I can
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  Speaker 1: feel good at home? It's crazy, right? Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And you can't win.
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  Speaker 1: We had, like, Candace Owens and Hasan Piker. They're, like,
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  Speaker 1: different sides of the aisle last week, right?
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  Speaker 3: You had, like, Brogan had Ian Carroll, and you had
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  Speaker 3: Candace on, like, I think the same day.
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  Speaker 2: It was a tough week for Israel.
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  Speaker 1: Jews stayed inside. Jews went to the tunnels. They're like,
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  Speaker 1: everybody into the tunnels. Put the mattresses back in, son.
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  Speaker 1: We got to figure, we got to regroup. But, dude,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't fucking know. I thought it was somebody from
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: the left and somebody from the right, right? Yeah. Oh, bro.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: Sorry to go. Yeah, I had no idea. I was
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: just like, okay, let's hear some different thoughts and different
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: opinions or whatever.
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: That's the other thing I realized. Like, I think it
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: was after the last special, right? I was like, okay,
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: you know what? I'm going to kind of chill. Like,
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: I want to spend time with my family and my friends. Like,
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to go out and do as many, like,
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: pods and stuff like that. You know, I got a
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: lot of work that I'm doing at home.
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: And I don't know, like, I'm not saying I'm famous,
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: but I don't know what the fuck, like, it is
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: to be famous. Like, I never wanted to be famous.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: Like, I knew that that might have been, like, a
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: byproduct of having success in comedy, but it wasn't, like,
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: I never, like, studied being famous. Like, I didn't give
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: a fuck about, like, how to be a famous person.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: Does that make sense? We, I mean, well, who knew
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: that podcasts would have such, would be, and clips of
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: podcasts would get out so much. Would be huge, right? Yeah. So, like,
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: I remember I was like, okay, I'm not, I'm just
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: going to chill.
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not going to be doing as many pods,
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: et cetera. And that's the thing that I realized, like,
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: Having different voices on your pod doesn't really do anything
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: for the people's perception of you that aren't your fans.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: Wait, say it one more time so I hear it.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: So we probably, I don't want to put words in
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: your mouth, but we probably think, I'm going to have
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: different voices on my podcast. And one, I'm curious and
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: I want to know what they think. But two, I
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: want to also let the people out there in the
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: world know I care about hearing from different people. And
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: I care about having diversity of thought on my podcast, right?
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: The people that don't know you, the casuals, are just
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: judging you by the worst thing you've ever had on
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: your podcast and the worst thing you've ever said. I
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: didn't realize this until recently. The best way to like
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: thwart those perceptions of you is not by having people
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: on your show because the casuals don't watch your show.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: It's by going to your biggest critics show and sitting
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: down with them. or not even your biggest critic, but
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: like going to somebody who like might have a very
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: different like worldview than you and then you guys sit
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: down and realize, oh shit, we actually don't have that
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: different worldview.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: That was all a perception.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: Anyway, I think a lot of times we go, okay,
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: we're really busy. It's like hard for us to go
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: around and do different shows and that kind of stuff
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: because I think our perception is not.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Going like, how can I be the most famous person?
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Like I don't give a fuck.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: I want to make the coolest standup that I possibly can.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: I want to hang out with my friends and I
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: want to talk some shit on podcasts. Like that's enough
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: for me. But, I've realized the importance now of going
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: to other people's homes and having those conversations.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: We had Hasan on our pod.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: It probably would have been more beneficial for me to
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: also go on his stream and talk to him and
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: let him bring up shit that I said and have
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: him tell me why I'm missing this nuance point and
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: be like, oh, that's interesting. Like that might actually be
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: better for the people that barely understand me or don't
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: even know me to have like a more holistic view
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: of me and like understand who I am.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: To actually go into their world a little bit more.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Because then you find things about me that might not
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: come up on the pot.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Like you start asking me things about like how I
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: feel about, you know, I don't know, whatever it is.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's fucking like Marxism or some
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: shit like that. And I go, oh yeah, maybe that,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: actually that kind of sounds good on paper.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It'd be nice if there was a
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: little bit more equality for people and people who had nothing,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: had the ability to, come up. That'd be pretty cool. Yeah.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: A little light Marxism. Yeah.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Just light.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: Nah, you know what I mean? Hey, you gotta cut
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: it with something. You need majority capitalism. You know, it's
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: like a cappuccino. You know what I mean?
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: You can't have, we're not taking espresso shots of Marxism.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's just, we like capitalism. Yeah,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: just a fucking latte. Just, yeah, half-calf. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Damn, dude. Yeah,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's all, it's definitely been Well, mainstream
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: media just got so, like, I don't know. The whole
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: thing has been bizarre, man. Being a part of podcasting,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: you know, all the strange little connections that are out there.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, like you were saying, Gavin Newsom just started
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: a podcast where he's having people who kind of disagree
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: with him when he had Charlie Kirk on.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: I think it's a really smart thing. Which is pretty wild,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: you know? I think it's a really smart thing.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: And we're talking about that at the beginning. And Dove,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: your producer, said that. Well, he felt like this was
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: kind of Newsom's last hope too. It's like, cause he
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: was probably, he's probably on the way out. So unless
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: he could do something to salvage that, but having a
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: podcast and it's having people you don't agree with, hang
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: out with you for a while is, it's pretty brave.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: It's also like, that's the exact word I was going to,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: it's like brave. You want to show bravery. And I
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: think like, not to be political or whatever, but I
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: think in the last, and again, I don't care about politics,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: but like culture is interesting to me. But I think
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: in the last, you know, election with the podcast run,
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: And I just want to say, personally, I don't think
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: that we changed the election at all.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I agree 100%. I have no ego about that. That
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: was decided way before us. Yeah.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Like, it maybe made people feel more comfortable voicing how
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: they were already going to vote. But I don't think
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: people are watching, like, I'm completely flipped on this.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's insane also.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: But, yeah, I think that the lack of representation of
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Kamala– and even like her constituents on the podcast run,
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: I think it showed a lack of bravery. The feeling
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, they're scared to go have potentially tough conversations.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: It wasn't even gonna be tough with us. What are
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: we gonna grill her on? I couldn't even think of
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: a thing. I mean, I heard that she roller skated
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: a lot and I wouldn't be curious about that, but
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: it's like, other than that, it's like, I don't.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Know what I would've talked about.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: But her people are going, we can't go on feel.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's just gonna come with the hard-hitting questions.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I know, you're like, what?
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Right, like something like that is insane.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but don't you appreciate that?
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: As much as Gavin Newsom just seems like a plastic
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: bag in the wind, I'm also like, I'm brave.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: You're willing to sit down on something recorded.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't talk to Charlie Kirk.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: It's scary. That motherfucker is a good arguer. I know, dude. Candace, too. Candace,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I always say, Rogan said Candace is John Wick. You
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: do not get in her fucking way. Uh-uh.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, she's definitely, yeah. When you said her.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Kid looked like Anthony Smith, I was like, you better.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: I was like, you a crazy motherfucker right here, bro.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: That daughter, and look, a beautiful kid. Beautiful kid. You
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: just stop at beautiful.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: That's what you do. You stop at beautiful. Because you
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: do not want Candace to get fixated, okay? You do
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: not want her to get fixated. The second she comes
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: up with a Theo video, you got to hope something
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: happens in Israel, pal.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Shift the attention. Gaza untight.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I need a bucket. Bro, that was a lot.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: because you made it German as well. I brought that in.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that happened. Thank you, dude. Gesundheit is good.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I did not believe that was going to come up.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I just started with Gaza, and then I was like,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: this won't be funny. I hope people get how layered
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: that is. That is good.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: That was teamwork, though.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I think you went one-on-one
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: right there.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I said that her daughter looks a little bit like—
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: She's beautiful.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, the daughter is beautiful. I think what we got
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: to say is that Anthony Smith is a beautiful little girl.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I think that's the better way of describing it. He's
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: a savage fighter. He's the fisty Charlemagne, baby. I think
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: that's all there is to say. I think that's all
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: there is to say. No, he does look mixed a
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: little bit. Is he mixed?
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Anthony, yeah, he is.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Mixed for what?
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think he's latte or whatever they
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: call it. He is. But Anthony's incredible. And the daughter
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: looks incredible.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: She's beautiful. I know.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: She is.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: But shout out to Candice. It's so funny how like.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: And shout out to Charlamagne too. I just made, I
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: made a joke one time about him. I said he
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: was handsome. Oh, he's handsome. Yeah, he's handsome. He loved
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: that one.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: And I don't remember what happened with it, but I
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: just thought it was.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I think he brought it up. He was like, this
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: is a deal. I'm handsome. He doesn't age though. Oh, dude.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: No, he's killing it. He's killing it.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I would like to get to meet him. I've never,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever met him. I got
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: to connect you guys, man. Yeah. You guys would have
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: a great talk. I bet we probably would. Yeah, of course.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Um, yeah, I saw that they just had.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Uh, who did they have on there that I love?
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Who on Breakfast Club? Yeah. I can't remember. You know,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: the Candace Baldoni stuff. I don't know if you were
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: following that at all. I didn't get into that. I
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: don't get into a lot of the celebrity lore.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: The only reason why it's interesting to me is that, um,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: you know, like Candace has like been positioned in a
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: way on the internet, right?
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Like, and she existed there and.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: People had her opinions on her and like, everybody was stuck,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: they were like, that's this girl, and bad, no, no, no, no, no,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: we don't listen to her at all. And she started
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: talking about that Baldoni Blake Lively thing, and even my
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: wife was hitting me like, have you heard this Candace
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Owens girl talking about, I mean, she just exposed the
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: whole thing. It's crazy how social utility frames how people
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: see you. So you could be a bad guy, and
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: then you start talking in depth about something that people
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: care about, and then all of a sudden, while you're
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: talking about that, You're a good guy.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: You're a hero.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: That's interesting. What does that say about us? What's the
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: same with the politic thing?
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: It's like people see you talking to a politician and
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: now at your Christmas and family stuff, people are coming
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: up and asking you about politics and shit and foreign
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: protocol or whatever. You're like, what should we do in Syria, Theo?
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Let me make a call or two. I don't know. Yeah,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: people are asking if I was going to be an
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: ambassador to do something or whatever. Why would you be
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: an ambassador to? I don't know. You got to ask
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: for Louisiana. Yeah, maybe, yeah. And they're like, we don't
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: need one of them. Yeah, but we should make a
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: special position. Yeah, but we need, hey, look, I don't
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: know if you've heard some of the slang down there,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: but we need someone who can communicate. We need an
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: interpreter between the White House and Boosie, okay? Because we're fucking,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: we're losing information. Theo Vaughn for ambassador of Louisiana. The
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: greatest thing the Trump administration has ever done.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Shake it like a doll, baby, do what you do.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I'll just be fucking, I'll be breaking down rap lyrics
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: for him.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Dude, that is creepy. Is that Robert Greene's face on
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: the 48 Laws of Power? Oh, my God.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: That is one of the most terrifying things I keep
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: looking at over your shoulder.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. I thought it was Dexter. He looks like
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Vigo from Ghostbusters 2.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Remember the dude in the painting? Mm-mm.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Bring him up.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Vigo.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Did you see Ghostbusters 2?
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't see it. My mom wouldn't let us watch
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: He doesn't. So do I a little bit.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: No.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: And so does Alan Dershowitz. See, you are involved in politics.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: You know all these names.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: You're plugged in, bro. But aren't we plugged in?
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: The funny thing about Candace is they were like, you're
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: an anti-Semite. And she's like, fucking call me whatever you want.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I have one of the top ten podcasts in the world.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: She really don't care. She doesn't give a fuck. And
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: the amount of people that listen to her. It's true.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: And she changes everything. Public sentiment. Like, she flipped that
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: whole Blake Lively, Baldoni thing.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: That flipped.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Like, he was a, I don't want to say pariah,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: but people were like, this guy's a fucking douchebag. Another
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: one of these, like, I'm a male feminist, guys, and
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: then you're really a creep on set. She completely 180'd
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: the internet on that. Baldoni got to give her a check.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: That's a good point.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: And she don't even want it, I bet. She got
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: to be so rich because you need to have some
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: money to be that brave and have kids.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: That's a good point, huh? Once you have kids, you
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: got to make sure you can protect those kids.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: The dad must be like.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: A rifleman or something.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: The dad of the babies, right? Yeah, somebody has to be.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: They're going to hire Anthony Smith now to actually help
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: protect that family. That'd be pretty great, actually. Denzel Washington,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: man on fire. Yeah, yeah.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: That'd be pretty great. Dude, that'd be so great.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: They show up to their next someplace with the whole
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: family and Anthony Smith is their fucking bodyguard.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: That would be pretty sick, dude. Bro, she could be
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: in the bodyguard.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: That's the new bodyguard starring Candace Owens and Anthony Smith. Wow.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Whose baby is it?
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Actually, you don't want to do that. No, she'll get pissed, dude.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: You don't want to do that. And what if she
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: breaks the story down and she finds out that it's
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: That's the whole story. Stop it, stop it, stop it.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: You have a deep dive on her. She does it.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: She's surprised by her own results. You would never see
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: that coming.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: No, but that sounds like a cool, it actually sounds
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: like a cool movie or something. But we're just joking, Candace. Candace,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: by the way, we want no problems at all. Zero problems.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Are we all looking into the cams when we say this?
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: We want zero problems.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Yep. Zero problems.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Our wine scene didn't do it. Wait, wait, wait. That's
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: what she's on.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: That's right. That's what she's saying now. That's what she's saying.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: But I will say this. You can't predict her at all. No.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: She's brave and she's thorough.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: And she's never lost a lawsuit, so.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: She is. But it is kind of crazy how like
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: the mainstream media had just been this machine. And then
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: now you're starting to see like, oh, well, what about
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: these stories you never heard about? What about the fact
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: that some information might not even be true because it
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: was all just kind of like part of a plan? Like, yeah,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: it's kind of wild. Yeah. And that makes podcasting and like.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: freelance communication or whatever it's called. Yeah.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Uh, even more interesting.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I don't even know what to believe now
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: when I'm, you see clips and I start, but I'm like, Oh,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: this is what I, and you're like, dude, I haven't,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: there's no real place to get completely factual truth. Well,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: maybe because your instinct. Yeah.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: But maybe because like, there is no completely factual truth.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: I think that's the thing. And I think it was
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: probably easier when there's like a few different news channels
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: to disseminate information.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Like kind of we all agree on more. Hey, this
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: is what happened during the Civil War. Right. This is
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: what happened during the Revolutionary War. This is what happened
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: during World War II.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: I didn't even know Russia did anything during World War
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: II until like a few years ago. I found out
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: like 25 million Russians died in World War II.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Nuh-uh. Yeah. Are you serious? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Pull that up. How many Russians died in World War II?
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. You don't ever hear about that.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Never hear about it. But why would we teach that? Right.
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  Speaker 1: You know?
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: But it gives you a different concept of who did what.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: 27 million. Wow. Oh my God. Yeah. 19 million civilian deaths, 8.7
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: million military deaths. That's the thing with Russia. It's tricky.
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  Speaker 1: It's like.
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  Speaker 2: So they were an allied force, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then immediately afterwards, you know, we started beefing in
• 27:36
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  Speaker 3: we had a united cause at one point in time
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: because I think Hitler invaded Russia.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Yeah.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: But the problem with invading Russia is like they have a.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: like a cultural acceptance of misery. Right, so they kind
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: of like it in the beginning. Is that what you're saying?
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  Speaker 1: Of war, you're saying? They're like, oh, finally, we're back
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like him, Dr.
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  Speaker 4: Umar.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I love Dr. Umar. I've been trying to get Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Umar on my show forever. Really?
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Well, he thinks I want to debate him. Oh yeah.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: And I don't think he understands that. Like, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: a fan. Like, I just think he's a hilarious communicator.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Does the culture, does black culture fuck with Dr. Umar
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: or no? As the spokesman for black culture, I would
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: say yes. Yeah.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I would say yes.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: That's fair. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah, because I know some
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: of those people are iffy on Charleston White in the
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: black culture, you know? Yeah.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I feel like maybe it's like his position
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: is more critical.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Whereas like maybe Dr. Umar also has the same critiques
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: of certain things. But he is like, hey, we're black
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: first and we got to stay united. We got to
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: lock this down. We got to do what's best for
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: the community. But he is a like magnificently gifted speaker.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Like he just talks in sound bites. He has this like.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Pastoral repetition, like remember like early Chris Rocca, he would
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: like repeat the premise over and over again.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: And it kind of like just, emblazoned into your head.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: But yeah, man. Have you ever talked to him? Charles White?
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Dr. Umar?
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: You're familiar with him, right? I just heard about him,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: no joking, one week ago. No way. Somebody mentioned, have
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: you seen Dr.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Umar? I think my buddy Zita told me about him
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: and showed me him. Oh, dude. I thought this, oh,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I thought that was fucking Kendrick Perkins or whatever.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I just saw this guy.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: So you thought Dr. Umar was moonlighting on TNT?
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: And now everybody's just trusting.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Everything he says. I was like, how did he fucking change?
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: You're like, why is Drewski going to him for dating advice?
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Why is Kendrick Perkins?
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: They got Drew. They came after Drewski.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that bullshit ass claim against Odell too.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: That's the thing.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: And then like whatever girl did that shit, like we'll
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: never hear from her again. So you can just say
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: these stupid shit. It's just, you should be, you should
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: have to go to jail for that.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: You should have to go to jail for that shit.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Because he has to go out and say, I didn't
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: do that. Like, that's a crazy thing to have to
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: say as a human. Jay-Z had to say that shit.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: And then they just dropped the lawsuit.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Did you see that? Against Jay-Z?
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then, again, nobody even notices when the lawsuit's dropped.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: It's like, you got to scream it from the rooftops
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: or else nobody will pay attention.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: And that goes to that, like, hater shit with the successfuls.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: It's like, that story was so popular because there was
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: probably a lot of people that were like, man, fuck
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Jay-Z for having a perfect wife and an amazing family
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: and a child and billions of dollars.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: He probably did that shit.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Damn.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: And so then they'll be the other ones tweeting it,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: sharing it, everything.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: And there's bots now. I mean, it's just, it's definitely bizarre.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: You got to trust your own gut, but yeah, you
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: could see an article. It's the last thing you saw.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: And then you're like, people are like, damn, wasn't that
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: guy addicted to drugs? You're like, that guy is just
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: won an Oscar. It's just like, you know what I'm saying?
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: If you didn't tap in and what's been going on,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: you know, it's all crazy, man. You'll see stories about
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: yourself that are crazy. I saw a story that I
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: was like a, all a jar cheese child or something
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: from the third generation or something. And I was like,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: like a billionaire stepchild or whatever. And I was like,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: what are you fucking? I was like, if my dad,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: if we had any money, they'd never, no one ever
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: had it.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: But yo, here's the thing with that story is like,
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: that story is just to discredit you. Like if you
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: come from crazy money, everybody gets to go, ah, see,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: it's not real. And he actually didn't have to experience
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: this kind of traumatic childhood and like this is all bullshit.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: It's like the story is specifically designed to cut your
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: legs out from under you.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: It's like why do people want to do that? Why
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: is that?
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: And maybe it's in all human beings. Maybe it's just
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: something that we have to grapple with. But I imagine
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: like the more confident you are in yourself, the more
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: happy you could be for people who get success.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point, man.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I think realizing that, I think for a while you
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: come from like a scarcity mentality, you know? Where you're like, man,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: shit's not gonna, like, fuck, somebody's, something bad's gonna, you know,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: this ain't gonna be okay.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: This is gonna go away.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Right. This starts to change or like the government's just
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: gonna come and take everything from you.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: You can't believe that it's happened after so many years
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: of trying.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then also you like, you don't know how
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: to have like things and so you're like, well, dude,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I remember being ashamed of myself when I didn't have
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: anything and being ashamed of myself when I did have something.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: But it was really crazy.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: It was like I tried to hide, always mask my
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: life because I didn't want people thinking that, seeing that
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I didn't have anything or that I didn't feel like
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: I was anything. And then even when I got a
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: house in Nashville, it's a nice home. It's not like,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: you know, some crazy, it's a nice home, but it's
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: not like a billion dollar home or anything. But I
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: didn't want to show people my living. I just didn't
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: want them to see like, you know, I don't know.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: It's just fucking crazy. It was like, so in the end,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: there was some part of me that just didn't want
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: to be that either only cared about what you thought
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: or just didn't want to be happy for myself no
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: matter what.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: And then you can never feel comfortable no matter where
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: you are in this, in this journey, man. It's, and that's,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: I guess what is, what would they say that that
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: comes down to like self-acceptance. It's like, once you accept it,
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: like you, you should be entitled to your success and
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: you work hard for it. Then you're not as dependent
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: on like the validation of others.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: But, um, It's hard to get away from that, I think.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's hard.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Some things like doing ayahuasca, that kind of stuff has
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: helped a lot of that stuff go away, though. Yeah,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff's been a.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: You've done that a few times?
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Yeah. I like it. it, dude. Really?
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you do it enough times they give you this jacket. Oh, yeah, definitely.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Some guy walks out of the jungle in Costa Rica.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Jaqueta para ti. You get a punch card. Before that,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I lost control. You gave me eagles and a letterman jacket.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: That is so ridiculous, dude.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: That is cool. You know who told me? Neil told
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: me that. Oh, yeah.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Neil Brennan became the, he became like this connector. Go on.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: But no, I think that's kind of what it is. Like,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: you know, Neil is, one of his super powers is
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: his cynicism skills. You know, like he's constantly consumed. I
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: hope he doesn't mind me saying this, but he's constantly
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: consumed of like what the worst case scenario of something
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: would be or what the worst person would think about the.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Thing he's doing.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: And what's good about that is like when you're creating stuff,
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: there's an advantage in that you're always thinking about what
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: your biggest critic could say. So maybe you really try
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: to sharpen every premise and sharpen every joke and make
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: sure there's no fat and it's like infallible. And the
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: negative aspect about that is that like, If you're just
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: creating for them, it's hard to create something authentically. And
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: then he said, he was like, listen, after I did that,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: that voice started to dim a bit. And I didn't have,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I wasn't constantly consumed with the critic. And I was
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: able to make, I think, my best shit. And I
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: think that's true. It's hard to create authentically when you're
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: worried about what critics would say.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: You're just making shit for them.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Or for somebody, especially when your whole life you've only
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: tried to you've gained a lot of your acceptance from
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: other people. Yeah. You know, I think that's probably been
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of my life, but I didn't even know
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: who I was. There wasn't a me. So the only
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: thing there was, was your reaction.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: So I didn't fucking. Do you think you found yourself?
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I think it's gotten better as I've gotten older. I
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: think some of it is getting older. You just kind
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: of like, I can't even fucking, whoever you are, motherfucker.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Come out. We ain't got a lot of time left, bro.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: You've been hiding for 40 years. My boy ain't like
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: enjoy some of this shit. We got a new jacket. Hey, man,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: come on out, man.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: We got to figure this shit out, Tom.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: You just getting tired of it? That's funny. That's great, dude. Yeah,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: so I don't know, but I think also you just
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: get older and you're like, there's just no, whatever part
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: of you that still cares about that shit starts to
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: go away. I think it's just exhausted, too. Chasing its tail,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: kind of.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's the release for you with something like Ayahuasca,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: where instead of constantly searching for what it is and
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: who you are, you do feel connected to whatever this
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: greater existence is. And you just get to go, okay,
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to fucking worry all day about what
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: exactly I am and what I don't have. And just
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: be this, you know, bottomless pit that a lot of
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: us in entertainment can be like there is. And maybe
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: that's what you need. Maybe you need that reminder.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Maybe you need that reminder. You're part of something bigger.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that, uh, that's a good point. Cause
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: once you feel like you're part of something bigger, there's
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: some connection. then you kind of don't just think about yourself.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: You're not as isolated.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not. There's something liberating about knowing things are
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: way bigger than you.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: When it's not bigger than you, it's very easy to
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: get caught in your own head. Fuck, it's a lot
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: of pressure, I imagine. If you're just thinking about you
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: and how you're being perceived and if you're becoming the
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: man you thought you would be and if you feel
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: comfortable with the success you've had, how other people will
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: react to that success.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Fuck, that's crippling. That shit, yeah. There's a
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: lot of stuff that's kind of like scary, I think,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: as you get older. I think, yeah, popularity is kind
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: of scary. Watching your own ego and being conscious of like,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: what is your ego and what is just you trying
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: to have some self-confidence in yourself, especially if some of
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: those things are kind of like, if you're like kind
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: of a late bloomer and some of that shit's happening,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: you know, can be, happens simultaneously.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: It's all, yeah.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: What's an example of that? I mean, even some of
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: like thinking about, I knew something about politics. It was like,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: just the fact that it took me a couple weeks
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: to realize, dude, you don't know about fucking politics. Like, yeah,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: you got to talk to some political people. Um, but do,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: and how much do they really know? And, but it's like, don't,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: that's a trap, right? What do you know about, you know,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: about like being curious, you know, about like wanting to
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: talk to different people, you know, about trying to be funny,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: I think, I think politics is always a reflection of culture.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Like politics is downstream from cultural needs and necessities. And
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: I think that, one of the things that's made you
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: so successful is I think you're deeply connected to culture.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Like you, you're aware of what people are feeling. You're
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: aware of what they're frustrated by. And, um, you know,
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: regardless if there's like data analysis to back up every
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: single one of those claims, like to me, that doesn't
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: mean anything. Like you can list out all the facts
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: you fucking want, but like you're aware of people's frustrations. And, um,
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Politicians have to react to that. So you don't need
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: to know what fucking senator is pushing what bill, because
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: they're all reacting to the thing that you're more acutely
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: aware of, probably than even them. You can't be a comedian,
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: or at least a high-performing comedian, if you're not in
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: touch with what people are feeling. At its core, I
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: think that's really what makes somebody a good comic.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and how to stay connected to that type of thing,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I guess, you know?
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: And sometimes with success, it's harder to connect to it,
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: and it's also harder for them to connect to you.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: That's probably why you want to hide the house in Nashville.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: You're like, fuck, well, they feel like they can't relate
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: to me because of this new life I live. That's
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: something that, like, so I grew up in New York City, right?
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: In the city you grew up?
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I grew up in Manhattan, and one of the
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: things about growing up in Manhattan, it's incredibly humbling. Like,
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: you never feel... You weren't in the Newsies.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: You weren't in the Newsies.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I was in Newsies. Were you really?
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: No.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: I was in Newsies. Have people asked you that before? No, no,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: you're the first person.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry, dude. I can't remember when that was,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: but I love that movie. Good little movie.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: I think Christian Bale was in that shit, right?
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Crutchy, that little guy. Like, give me the paint.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: So fucking, that was my childhood.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, fucking bullshit. You got a fucking kid
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: on one crutch hiking through fucking, hiking up the LIC
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: with a fucking sack of newspapers, dude. LIE. LIE.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: LIE with a sack of newspapers, man. But anyway, like
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: you just humble constantly. You never feel like you got money.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: There's always somebody way richer. There's always somebody with a
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: way better job. There's always some of the better, like,
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Because you're in the city where the most successful of
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: all the people have. So you never feel like, you
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: never feel this concern that you were talking about, which
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: is like, oh, if I show this nice thing I have,
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: people will think that I consider myself better than them
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: or something. If you grew up in New York, you
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: never feel that way because there's always someone so much
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: higher than you.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? There's always someone so much
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: more wealthy.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: So it's just this, there's like a hustle mentality, which
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: is like, I'm gonna work really fucking hard for as
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: long as I possibly can. And I'm gonna try to
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: get some nice shit, but I'm gonna earn it. I'm
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: not gonna just have it handed to me. I'm gonna
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: fucking bust my ass. But when I do get it,
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: I don't feel guilty about it because it ain't even
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: as close as nice as the guy who lives three
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: blocks that way. So, but I understand like my mom's
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: from Scotland, like fucking, you know, comes from nothing. There's
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: that sentiment of like you getting something nice, the community
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: could feel like, oh, do you think you're, You think
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: you're better than us now because you got this fancy house?
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: When I was a kid, if somebody could read, people
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: would call them a.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: F * * *. You know? If somebody brought home
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: a B on our bus, dude, you were just a
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: fucking sick homosexual. Yeah, they would beat you up. I mean,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: they would let people ride home on our bus with
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: no shirts on. And I'm like, why don't people have
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: to have shirts on or whatever? But it was just like... Yeah.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: It was just, yeah.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: It's tough.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: You want to kind of stay like, I don't know,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: as your life changes and as you get older, things change,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: your life gets bigger and you kind of sometimes want
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: to just stay the same. Like, I think there's parts
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: of moments in my life that I really miss where
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I was real comfortable. And I think as your life changes,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: sometimes it probably is like a new space. What's it
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: been like for you having a child since I know
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of your special was about it. Like the greatest,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: was that something that took away a lot of that?
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Just worrying about yourself type of thing. And did it really,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: or is that something that people just say?
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: I'm glad that you asked that second question. But the
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: weird thing about having a kid is it is literally
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: every cliche that anybody has ever said.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: All right, that's a little Shiloh.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Dang, huh? Little cutie.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Wow, at the beach, rich, huh? What UFC fighter does
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: she look like?
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, hold on. Don't do it. Huh? Don't do it.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, we got to do it. But for your wife,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: you have to say that. She, she, she.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: She, and this is, Nick, you know who it is.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: He's got a fight coming up. Michael Chandler.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: A little.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: But he's fighting Volkanovski.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, Diego Lopez? A little bit. Oh, my God. He's
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: a pretty motherfucker. I'll take that one. That's a compliment.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: That was acceptable. That's got to be a new segment
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: on the Theo Paul podcast. What? Yo, yo, yo. He's good.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: He's good. He's good. Oh. That's pretty cute.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, little cutie.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Now I just don't want him to hear me say that.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: But there's something very charming about him. She's a beautiful
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: young lady. That's going to be a great fight.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Shout out Volk, too, man.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: I think that is an exciting fight, huh?
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Seeing Volkanovski sing the other night about that was so fun.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: You got a little voice, bro.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: He's got a good voice.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: And it's just fun to see his, like, it's so great,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: I think, if fighters are around long enough where you
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: get to see their personalities.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Like, they used to only have to just be so tough.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: And now they can do that, but also have a
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: bit of showmanship.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we want to connect to them. But back to
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: the kid. It's every cliche you've ever heard times a thousand.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: Like it, and it's, there's a reason why that exists.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: I imagine it's like, we all should have this reaction
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: towards children, right? Like their smile is the best smile.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: Their laugh is the best laugh. It's the most incredible
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: experience you've ever had in your life. And there's a
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: little part of you as like a comedian that goes,
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: you know, oh, I'm going to have these unique takes
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: on being a father. And it is, your takes are
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: so similar to every other person who's ever been a dad,
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: which is now I see as a beautiful thing. But yeah,
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: your life gets really small. I can only speak for myself,
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: but like, I just don't care as much about other things.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: You know, like I want to spend time with her.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: I want to spend time with my wife. And as
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: long as they're proud of me and happy with me,
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: that's enough. Anything else is... It's icing on the cake.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: It feels really good. The response to the special feels
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: really good. It's amazing. All these people who went through
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: IVF and had a similar journey as us to get pregnant,
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: they're talking about it feels really good. But I'll tell
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: you one thing, as long as my wife and baby
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: are happy with me, it is an amazing experience. I
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: hope you experience it, man, if that's something that you'd
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: like to experience, but it's transformative.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like to have that, man. It's cool to
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: hear a parent say that, too, you know? I think that, like,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: it's nice to hear a parent say those things about
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: their family.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: It's so cool, man.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Also, you'll watch it, like, it's very, very rare in
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: life you get to see somebody give 100%, like, really 100%. And, like,
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: when you watch them in labor, it's 100%.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: Really? Really.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: It's just they're giving everything they possibly can give.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: What happens if they just do 80% or whatever, 60%?
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: That baby stays in there, bro. We had to do
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: a C-section.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: We.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: My wife had to do a C-section, obviously. I didn't
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: do anything.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: I just sat there like an asshole. But, yeah, it's
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: just amazing what they're willing to do. My wife lost
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: a lot of blood.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Like 50 Cent almost.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: Literally, it was like, yeah. It's very similar, actually, to
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: what 50 went through. I got to talk to 50
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: about that. I was like, dude, you basically got a
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: C-section out there in Jamaica, Queens, bro.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: We talk about that?
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: 50 C. He's good. He's fucking good.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: No, but, but bro, it was like, she had no
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: energy left. She had no blood in her system left.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: And they ask her, they're like, can you do a
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: little breastfeeding for the baby? Cause she needs to eat
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: right now. And then they're like, if you don't have energy,
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: that's fine. She breastfeeds the baby. The second the baby
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: pulls off, this is like after, I don't know how
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: long it is. She goes, my wife's like, she, is
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: she good? And the doctor's yeah, she's good. And the
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: second the doctor takes her off, she just closed her
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: eyes and passes out. But it's like, there's this like
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: primal urge to do anything for that. They'll do anything
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: for that baby. And it is like, yeah, it's a
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: beautiful human experience to watch somebody love something like other
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: worldly love. And yeah, I think it's a really important
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: part of, if you, if you're lucky enough to be
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: able to do it, it's a really important part of
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: like the life experience. It just makes everything, it makes
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: everything small and, and, and worthwhile.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, dude.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Thanks for sharing that, man. Sure.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: What's it like to see your parents interact with your child?
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: So my dad has dementia.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: I know he's sick, right?
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's had dementia for a while now, so it's
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: hard for him. He did the intro to your special. Yeah,
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: that was pretty cool. That was cool, dude. I was wondering,
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: was that tough for you guys to get him to
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: pull it off, or.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: It was okay?
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: You know, what's interesting is we filmed that actually at
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: the early part of the tour.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: I loved how your special started off with the joke
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: because it just like, oh, I'm already having a nice time.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Boom.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a great choice. I thought it
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: was one of the best I'd seen in a while. Thanks, man.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was cool to, yeah, the first one we
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: were thinking about, we're like, should we just start the joke?
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: And then like the first thing is, I think I go,
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: you guys want to hear my favorite New York joke?
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: And we could have just cut that line, but there
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: was part of me that went like, if I'm just
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: hanging out with friends and I go, yo, I got
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: a good joke. My friends or anybody else in that
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: group will go, yeah, I like hearing a good joke.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: This is why I'm tuning into a special. Sometimes I
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: feel like the first joke you tell on stage is
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: the most inauthentic. Because it's like, hey, we're going to
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: do this thing where I talk and you guys just listen.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: And once we get into it, it will all make sense.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: But the first 30 seconds or a minute of it
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: is inauthentic in a way.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Unless I... honestly tell you, hey, you guys ready? I'm
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: going to tell you a joke. Does that make sense
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: while I'm trying to communicate?
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: I've never thought about that before.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's this kind of moment where everybody pretends like
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: they don't know you're about to tell it. Like they
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: kind of like, there's this weird moment in the beginning.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: We have to suspend disbelief or whatever it is. What's
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: he going to do? We know what we're going to do.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Juggle or yeah.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Remodel the building. So I don't know.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: I was like, how do I just make it feel
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: like authentic or natural or whatever? And, um, but yeah,
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: but having my dad do it, the intro is just
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: the coolest fucking thing.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: And, uh, how many takes do you have to do
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: with dementia?
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: How many, how, what is that like? So that we
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: did a, I mean, he was able to, he was
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: able to knock it out, but we tell him the
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: line right before every single time. Yeah.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: You know, just give it up for my son, Andrew Schultz. Like,
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: and it's, he goes and says it and you could
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: really feel him.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: It was like really beautiful. I'll probably get emotional, but
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: he was like, he really wanted to do it, you know?
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: And like, he was, he's been a great father. So
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: it's like, and he's like trying to remember it, you know?
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: And like, yeah, it was just really, yeah, yeah, it
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: was cool.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: That's awesome, man. It makes me sad, kind of. Not sad,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: but it makes me... No, it's beautiful.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something that's real.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's beautiful.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Give it up for my son.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, dude, right when I saw that, because I remember
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: seeing the video that you shared about him when you
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: were going to play Madison Square Garden. Yeah, yeah. And
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: it was like, that was like something that everybody could
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: relate to. And yeah, when I saw that, it was like,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: because yeah, I don't know.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: He was, he was, and I keep saying was, which
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: is fucked up, but like, he had a really shitty
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: dad that like wasn't there for him at all.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: And.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: he didn't have me until like late, but he like,
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: he never said this, but like he made a decision
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: that he was not going to let that happen again.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: And he was just like, he was just there for everything.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Like every, I don't know what it's like to not
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: have a dad there for everything, which is an amazing privilege.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: But like, it was just so important to him to like, Oh,
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: let's go throw a base. Let's play some basketball. Like
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: whatever you want. I need help with homework. Like whatever
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: it is. And, um, And, you know, he has his dimension.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: I feel like every time I see him, I just, like,
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: I just hope he knows that he was incredible. And, like, it's,
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: that I'm nowhere close to where I am without that.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Right. Like, all my confidence comes from him. Wow. You know, like,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: every bit of, like, self-belief, like, anything is just, there's
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: this guy who has believed in me. Yeah, is there
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: a part of you, like, so as dementia, I guess someone's, like,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: So who someone is starts to kind of disappear a
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: little bit.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: Is that a fair way to say it or not?
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: I would say like your short-term memory goes away. So
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: I guess memory is broken up into long-term memory and short-term.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: And for someone to get into long-term, it just needs
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: to be repeated. So he has his long-term memory. He
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: like knows the map of New York. He can like
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: go around the city, but he might forget like what
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: he's going to do.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: But he knows how to get home.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But if we took him to Florida, he wouldn't
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: really know how to get around. Right.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: And then short-term, it's like he doesn't really know He'll
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: have a conversation with you and then he'll kind of forget.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: He'll bring it back up. He has a few things
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: that he'll talk about. But I will say that the
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: concern when this happens is that something underneath is bitter
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: and angry and he just becomes this resentful human being.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: But he's pure, man. He's just a pure, loving, good soul.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: So he gets to find out every time I see
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: him that he has a granddaughter. And like, that's pretty awesome. Like,
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: you know, like, like, so there is a, like, if
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: there's a little positive perspective that you can, all you
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: can do is change perspective on shit.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: So like, I could tell him every single time. I
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I got it. He's like, what?
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. What's that like?
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: You know? And like, so that's cool to tell him. Yeah. Yeah.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: That's gotta be super cool. Yeah, it is. Is there,
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: is there any fear that like, as a part of him, like,
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: that the part of him inside that will forget that
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: you care about him?
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Does that make any sense?
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: The fear is that I haven't communicated to him enough
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: how incredible a job he did.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: And I don't even know if that's important to him.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Right, but it's important for you to know it.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's important to me that he knows that he's
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: the GOAT. And he might not know that. And it's
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: so interesting. Yeah, it's... Yeah, it's just so interesting, yeah. Yeah,
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: it's like, you just want them to know. But then
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: I realize now after having a kid, like before I
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: had a kid, I thought he was doing everything just
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: for me. Like he was doing things that he might
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: not actually wanna do, but he's like, I'm gonna be
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: there for my kid.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: And now that I have a kid, You get so
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: much joy.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, you realize, oh, he was.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: Bro, it's this beautiful relationship where you can selfishly be
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: a good dad. Taking my kid to the Museum of
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: Natural History the other day was more fun for me
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: than her.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Watching her look at a woolly mammoth. you know
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: like and just have her fucking mind.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: Blown you know she just she's looking at this she's
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: looking back at me she's like what the fuck is
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: this like and it was just and i'm like we
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: got to go to the museum every week like whatever
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: there is this beautiful where like your selfishness benefits your
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: kid ah if maybe if you have a healthy relationship
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: i know there's like unhealthy shit.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Right right too but i think i see what you're
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: saying so then it's like now it's like there's no
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: way he couldn't ever know how much I care about
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: him because it almost doesn't even matter because he cares
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: about me so much. As a dad, you care about
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: your kids so much that as long as they're okay,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: then everything else is it. You would hope.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: Is that kind of what you're saying a little bit?
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you would hope.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, again- Right, I know there's a lot of
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: instances it's not the case. Yeah, but I mean, yeah,
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: I would just- Yeah, I would hope. I hope that's
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: the case. He battled with depression a lot. My family's
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: got a lot of mental illness in it, right?
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: So he battled with depression a lot. So it's just,
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: you don't know what to do when you're a kid
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: about that. I used to take him to the Comedy
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: Cellar before I ever did comedy. I thought that if
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: you laugh, you're not depressed.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: That's how I thought it worked.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: So I'd take my depressed-ass dad to the Comedy Cellar.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: Little did I know, he's just listening to depressed comedians.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: He's probably getting more depressed.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? He's struggling with his life.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: He's got to listen to these sad-ass comedians on stage
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: talking about how shitty their lives are. He's like, this
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: kid is going to kill me. But hey, if it
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: makes his son happy, he's doing it for me. He's
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: doing it for me. Damn near almost killed himself. half
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: the comedians you're doing it for him and he's doing
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: it for you that's fucking hilarious dude yeah he's like
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: he's fucking sitting there he's fucking just rubbing over drinking
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: a pulling spring just looking for the vein so but
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: yeah it's just what a fascinating thing that he's doing
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: it that that what a what a unique way to
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: think of a crossroads of a father and son that
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: he's doing it for me and I'm doing it for him.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: That's kind of fascinating. You don't know.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: You just don't know how it works when you're younger.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: You don't even know the effects of depression or these
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: types of things.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Especially in his era, like 20 years ago, he had
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: no idea, even 30 years ago.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: He had no idea. You're just like, oh, Rodney likes
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: to fucking sit in the car by himself. My dad
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: would go sit in the car by himself for a
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: couple hours. I love it. I love it.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: And my mom would just be like, well, if.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: You get out of your fucking car.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: Like he wants to be out there sitting out there
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: by himself.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: The men in our town used to park their trucks
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: behind the Winn-Dixie and cry back there sometimes.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: And you'd see them just fucking... You know, you see
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: a guy open his car doors to let a bunch
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: of tears fall out.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: And then close it back.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: Yo, there is bravery to that, though.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: That's the thing that, like, I think we look back
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: at that generation who was really trying to figure out
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: how to deal with their mental health, and they stiff
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: upper-lipped it. And I think a lot of times we go, oh,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: they just ignored the problems. It's like, no, no, you
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: can't ignore depression. It's not something you could ignore.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's there. And what they
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: did is they said, you know what?
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: .
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: .
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: And it's like... And I'm going to get my fucking
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: son a Pistons jersey. Exactly. And you're not even a
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Pistons fan. That's depressing, too. You want it so badly
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: for this kid to be a Knicks fan. This motherfucker
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: likes the team in Detroit.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: And a lame beard jersey.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:22
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  Speaker 4: at acorns.com slash T-H-E-O. Yeah, just to add another universe
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  Speaker 4: to your life. Does it make you look at your
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: wife different? Does a girlfriend or a wife become different
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: once they're a mother?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Or what's that kind of like?
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: 100%. Completely.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: You also, like, you realize, like, here's something I realize
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: is I would always call my wife when I know
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: that the baby's waking up from a nap. Let's say
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: I'm at the studio or something like that. And I
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: call and, you know, and she knows I'm calling to
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: see Shiloh, right? And once I called my wife and
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: then she was coming back from, like, a workout class
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: or something. And she was like, oh, I'm not home yet,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: so I'm not with Shiloh. And my heart sunk because
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, fuck. Like you don't even think
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: I call for you anymore. So in my effort, you know,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: to just like connect with my daughter in every possible
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: way I can, I am forgetting about my, connecting with
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: my wife sometimes. And your wife doesn't want to be
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: angry at you for that because she's like, thank God
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: I have a dad who's so committed and just in
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: love with their kid.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: But you can't forget about them. So it's like this
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: constant adjustment. You go, okay, all right, I got to put. Like, hey, Shiloh,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: is your mom home?
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: That kind of thing.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to call Shiloh.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I gotta go on the Nanit. I gotta call.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: I got two phones. Yeah, you gotta put some Kevin
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Gates in there when they're nursing, dude. You're the most
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: interesting man in America. You spin Kevin Gates bars.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: She's like, hey, mom's right here.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, you don't want to talk to me? She gives
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: me the attitude. No, you can't win. You just want
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: to talk to this old bitch. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: you got to do that, dude.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, damn, dude.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. Yeah, it's wild.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Wow, dude. What a neat journey. And I was just
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: impressed in your special. Like, you're just going. It's like,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: you know, when I first watched you, you were such
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: a power. I remember the first time I ever saw
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: you at the Black Baby.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: What's it called? The one that's next door to the
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: Comedy Store? Fat Black Pussycat.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Fat Black Pussycat, right?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: Village Underground, maybe. Maybe that one.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was one that kind of has the tears
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: in it. A little bit. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: Village on the ground.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: But, dude, I was like, I had never seen it.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, my God.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: And I had to go up after you, dude.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: And it was so fucking scary. And I was like.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you killed that shit.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: I did. Okay. But, dude, then this is so. And
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: that was great. I mean, but that was just. I mean,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: that was probably 10 years ago, too. Yeah, yeah. But then, yeah,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: this was just so, like, taking me through this story
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: and the journey. And it was, I don't know. It
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: was cool to see. It felt like grown up a
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, it's just different. Like, I've never been
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: personal in my comedy. I didn't even think my life
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: was interesting.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: So I was like, yeah, I was like, I thought
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: my opinions on shit were more interesting in my life.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: So I was like, I'm not, I don't need to
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: tell you about what's going on in my life. And then,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: and then this thing happened where, you know, we couldn't
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: get pregnant and it was.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: Because of me. My sperm sucked. No way.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: So my sperm.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: What happened? So you take them into the.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: I'm the face of shitty sperm, bro.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: You felt bad for a second. You're like, hold on.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it's just crazy because you have that like
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: spice trader energy. You want to know some crazy shit?
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: My boy is a spice trader. This guy I play
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: paddle with. All right.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: There's my boy. We call him Spice Man.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: We legit thought he was a drug dealer for so
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: long because he says like I'm a spice trader. Like
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: he makes little jokes about it that he's not joking.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: He'll show up late to a game and he'll be like, man,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: sesame was down crazy today. I couldn't find a place
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: to store it. And then he'll say coriander options.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: It's literally like a stock market. Like he's back and
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: forth from India. So we're like, there's no way this
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: is his real life. Like he sells fentanyl or cocaine
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: or some shit.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: And he's just saying it's turmeric. Right.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: So, but turns out this motherfucker is a legit 2025
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: spice trader.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: This is like the oldest job ever. We ride here.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude. That's it, bro.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: We ain't going anywhere. We're from the past, baby. How
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: crazy is that? Shout out to Pete, man. Spicy Pete.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: We call him Spicy Pete. Yeah, dude.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: Spicy Pete. That's great.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: That'd be a dope-ass job. Just hitting the streets with
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: what you want.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: He'll just hit me with random spice facts. Thyme, cumin.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like, bro, you can't store the cumin
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: with the turmeric, right? Because one goes old. And I'm like, oh, yeah,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: of course, bro.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: That's a huge.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: That storage shit is crazy out there, you know? Yeah,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: 10 Our Fathers right now. That's crazy.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: 10 Our Fathers?
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: You can't be doing that, yeah.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: What does that mean?
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: It's like you confessed it in a confessional.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: You get a punishment?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: They make you do those punishments or whatever.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, dude, you did the wrestling thing. Was that interesting? Oh,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: that was so cool, man.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: It's cool.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: You did a good job.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Thanks, bro.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: It looked, was it scary? I thought you were going
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: to get slammed.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, yeah. Was that an option? He was about to,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know it was gonna happen you didn't
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: no I didn't know anything was gonna happen I'm just
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: there hanging out then Logan starts to you know get
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: me to try to lie in front of all my
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: people in Madison Square Garden I want to see AJ
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: stop that's why let's go this shit doesn't look like
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: I'm prepared for that And what's his finishing move, the
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: tax evasion? That's the next move. We've got to move
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: to Puerto Rico. The Puerto Rican W-9, that's his fucking
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: finishing move.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Dude, does he sling? Maybe I didn't
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: see this.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, Styles coming in. Thank God AJ Styles comes in
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: to save my ass.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: He's going to come in a couple seconds later.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: I'd be toast. In front of my wife. Did part
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: of you want a little more smoke after that? Like,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: was there a little bit inside of you that's like...
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: I need justice, bro. Yeah.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: I need justice. You can't come do that shit to
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: me in Madison Square Garden.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: I agree. My home.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: Talk crazy to me.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: I need some paper, bro. I need my get back.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: You know who Aaron the Plumber is?
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: Aaron the Plumber. I think we had him on the podcast, actually.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Did you have Aaron on the pod? I think so,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: like 20 years ago. Yeah, like three years ago, I think. No, no, no, no.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: This is a different Aaron the Plumber. We had Joe
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: the Plumber. Joe. Joe the Plumber. You need Aaron the Plumber, bro.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: This guy's an absolute internet sensation.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: Joe found a baby in one of the pipes. Joe
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: found an offspring.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: In one of the pipes. What is that? Horrible time
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: to say that. No, that's a Patrice joke. It is?
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: He said, I jerk off so much in the shower,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: I'm surprised the drain ain't pregnant.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: Joe is like, it was.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: I think I'm working at your place. No, who's Aaron
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: the Plumber?
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, dude, this guy.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: Cool guy?
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. He was on this Zeus Network show.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Do you know what the Zeus Network is?
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: Uh-uh.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: Is it like that Stars or whatever, like Ghostbook Phantom, whatever,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: 7 or whatever?
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: Nah, this is more Ratchet, bro. But Aaron the Plumber,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: you're not qualified. This guy is a certified, hilarious dude.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: He's an actual certified plumber.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Dang, dang.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: But he's hilarious on this dating show. And he was just,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: you know, he would get in a fight with anybody
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: who popped shit. He's like, all right, let's go. We
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: fight right now. But he's also hysterical. And so, yeah,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: he's just an internet sensation.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: Love this guy.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Dang, I haven't seen him. I got to check him out.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Who did I see recently? Gunno Lavish.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Have you seen him? No, who's that? Young kid. He
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: makes me laugh. He's out of Mississippi, man.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: Gunno Lavish.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: You can see the text went out of him. If
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: you just go to shorts right there. Let's start it over.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: Is everything going to be okay? It will be okay
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: if you just stay strong. Stay strong, boy, nigga. Yeah.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: You wondering if everything's going to be okay? It will
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: be okay if you just stay strong.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, give me one more.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Give me a, oh, stop being humble, FN over there.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: Try that one. You out here being humble when everybody
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: popping that shit. It's time you start popping your shit then.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: Stop being humble for it, nigga.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: You out here being humble when everybody popping that shit.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: It's time you start popping your shit, nigga. He just
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: made me laugh, man. He's out of Mississippi, man. I
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: just like his thing. He's just somebody I started watching,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: you know. There's like people you see and they come up.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: And then once you watch them a couple times and
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: you keep having to watch them, you know.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with it. It's crazy, dude. I'm obsessed with
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: Temptation Island, Spain.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Really? Yeah. I could see that.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: This is the craziest reality show I've ever seen in
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: my entire life. This guy Montoya, have you not heard
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: of the Montoya guy? Oh my God, it's crazy. So
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: basically Temptation Island, the idea is you and your girlfriend
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: go to this island and you split up and then
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: they send people to try to fuck you and try
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: to fuck your girlfriend.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: To see if you'll cheat. And were the people from
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: the mainland or whatever?
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: I think they're all from Spain, pretty much. Some of
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: them may be from other Spanish-speaking countries, but everybody speaks Spanish.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: So this one couple, she, that girl right there, Anita,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: Anita gets just banged out, I think, five days in
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: by this other dude, and he's got to watch. So
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: this other- Why did you have to watch? Because that's
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: part of the show, bro. So they're just cucking my
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: man Montoya. But Montoya is so charming that you actually
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: don't look at him like a cuck. You're like, oh,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: this is- He's like a flamenco singer.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: He's the man.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: So he gets really emotional about watching the guy just
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: beat cheeks on his girl.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: Oh. Yeah.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: And this seems like modern day Shakespeare almost, you know?
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm talking about, kind of?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. There's very much a thing where like- Yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: It's Othello, really. Yeah, when the- Like the figure would
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: be like, it would open up a portal in your
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: head where you could thought this, your wife was cheating
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: and you would take your own life or something. So
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: there it is.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: So like, he's got to watch this security cam footage
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: and you could like hear like pelvis hit cheeks like this.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: It's brutal, but it's also fantastic TV. God, I've never
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: seen that.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: It's amazing. Like, and I haven't watched the whole episode.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: I just watch like whatever highlights get clipped and put
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: on like TikTok or Instagram.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: I think that's how I consume everything. But I, yeah,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: everything I possibly can, I consume. Yeah. Well, it's funny
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: because you start to want to have like an information
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: diet so there's things you can talk about with different
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: guests or whatever.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: That's what I heard Mr. B say. Like he hires
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: people to have an information diet.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: For him.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: So they all absorb stuff. Then they filter it down.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: And then he gets like this stuff from them that's
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: like fine-tuned to exactly what he would want to know
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: the most.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: And that's crazy. So he's like a human version of
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Chad GPT. Yeah.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: So he has intelligence intelligence.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like real intelligence. He has like an algorithm that's, yeah,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: he's like a human kind of algorithm, you know? Yeah.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: Sort of, I guess.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: So he's outsourcing his like interests. How do you run
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: it back against those Paul guys, I wonder?
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: How do I run it back against Logan? Or Jake
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: as well? Get Jake involved as well?
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: Dude, I would fucking, if I saw those people in
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: my dreams, I would beat the shit out of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: That's a good caveat right there. That's a very good caveat. Now,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: Logan needs to get it back. Logan needs to get
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: Logan needs to get some get back.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: That's the reality. You can't come into my place and
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: do that, obviously.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: But Jake, I don't even know if Jake's gonna be
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: involved in wrestling.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: He's doing his boxing thing. But let's see what happens.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know. You never know.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: You never know with these things. What about you?
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: You gonna get involved in some wrestling? I don't know, dude.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: I thought about trying to wrestle one of those guys.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: I would have to really stretch and focus on fitness. Yep. Yeah, 100%.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: I would have to really stretch and focus on it.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: Or you could just get dragged through the ring like
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: I did. And then not work at fitness at all.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: You know, this is the craziest part of that. You
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: didn't even see the end of it. I got dragged
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: over the banister, rag-dolled on the ground, rolled into the ring,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: bent over and put into a suplex. This other dude, AJ,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: saves me. After Logan leaves, I jumped on a top rope.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: Like I did something.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: I think I'm the first person in history to just
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: get my ass kicked and still go on the top
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: rope and celebrate. But it really goes back to exactly
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: what we were saying earlier. If all people see is
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: that clip of you on the top rope, they're like,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: this guy won. So I'm like, I might never do
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: this again. When am I going to not jump on
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: the top rope? Come on. I got to tell my
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: daughter something. That's classic, man. Yeah. Have you thought about
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: over the years of moving out of New York? I
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: know we were talking about the taxes and stuff in there. Yeah,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: It's pricey.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about going down to Austin? Did
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: you ever think about that?
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: Not living there, no. I mean, look, it's fucking incredible
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: what Joe's done down there.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: It's incredible. It's kind of crazy that it almost feels
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: sometimes like another center. It definitely feels like another new
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: center of comedy, which they didn't have five years ago.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm going to say what I'm saying
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: right now. Cause obviously, you know, New York guys were
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: incredibly biased about standup. We're like the best standups are
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: in New York. And this is where you come. You
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: got to make your bones. This is what you got
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: to do. And then the idea was, okay, but if
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: you want to become like famous, you can go to LA.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: Cause that's where the industry is. Somebody is going to
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: pop into the comedy store. They're going to see you.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: You'll be famous. That's at least like the hope or
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: the dreams or whatever.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: But, um, as of right now, if you're a young comic, right,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: what is your pathway to success in LA? If you're
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: a young comic, what's your pathway to success in LA?
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: Perception doesn't mean that you can't happen, but like, in
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: LA or New York? What shows can you get on
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: that eventually you become famous?
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Because I know if I'm a young comic, I can
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: manage to get on Kill Tony and become a regular,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: I'm selling out theaters around the country.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: These guys are selling real tickets.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: If I get into Joe's world and I'm able to
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: go on the podcast a bunch and maybe even go
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: on the road, I'm getting a career. To me, it's
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: like we need to start building some infrastructure in New
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: York so these guys feel like there's a pathway to
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: selling tickets. And that's not just New York, that's LA too.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: Those days of just like getting a role in a
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: movie and then you sell tickets are done. You doing
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: a TV show one-off and then you sell that, you
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: don't just sell tickets. You need to be like ingratiating
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: yourself to the people through stand-up comedy if you want
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: to sell stand-up comedy tickets. So I don't blame, I
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: don't begrudge any comic who's like, I want to go
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: to move to Austin because I feel like that's where
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: the thing is happening. Especially if you just moved to
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: New York or LA to make it. I'm from New York,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: like born and raised in New York. So like moving...
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: to another city is like leaving my whole family, my
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: friend group.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: It's everything I know. Right, you're leaving your world.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, there you go.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking, I guess. Oh my God,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: I do kind of look like that motherfucker. Diego Peña,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: what's his name? Man. Diego Garcia? He looks ugly next
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: to Christian Bale, bro.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: And he's not even that ugly, bro. I'm saying he
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: looks like me. So I can't be insulting him that much,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: but Christian Bale is one fucking hand. guy well then
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: imagine the tape is another even less wait a.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: Minute did he AI my face onto that I did
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: this is face swap god damn bro I look ugly
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: next to Christian Bale that motherfucker is handsome look at
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: Bruce Wayne right there dude god nah he's a stud
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: ugh he's a stud Yeah. And I'm worse looking than you,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: so the tough part is it only goes another step downhill.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: Yo, how fucked up is that me insulting him before
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: I knew it was me? Like, isn't that, that's insanity
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: right there.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's the... Where's my self-esteem at? I don't know.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: Don't come here for it.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I built this railroad on low self-esteem, dude.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of the low self-esteem engine? No,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: I haven't. That's the only thing that's run on these
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: tracks for years, dude. I mean, we're picking up. We're
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: picking up steam, but it's been slow. Oh, God. What
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: are we talking about? Oh, there's the scene. So it's
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: just like, I imagine every- Oh, yeah, the scene. I mean,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: think about it. Obviously we're in.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: Different positions, right?
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Like we're, we're in a different part of our career
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: where we have, we can live.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: However we want. It's not the beginning of our career.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: So, but if you were young and you're like my
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: pathway to success, like what, if you go to LA,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: what do you, what shows do you get on to
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: eventually make it?
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: Like what is your.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: Right. Well, there's a couple of things. One, you can
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: get a lot of, there's a lot of like influencers
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: and stuff out here. So there's a lot of social
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: media influencers. That stuff is real out here. There's movie
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: stars that live out here. And there's television shows. But
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know if a lot of stuff still shoots
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: in L.A., which is kind of crazy. Even whenever we
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: shot this little movie with Spade there, people were like,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: thank you guys so much. For working here. We haven't
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: had work in months. And I'm like, what do you mean?
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: Because I don't know who shoots what.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: They're like, yeah.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like, in Hollywood, you haven't had work in months?
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I guess there's just nothing shooting here, which
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: seems crazy that you would build an industry where then
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: nothing even shoots within it, you know? Like at a
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: certain point, you can't cut every corner. Like, okay, we're
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: going to shoot out of state to get a tax break.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: But the tax incentives are really big.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: You can shoot up in Canada. You can shoot up
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: over in Atlanta. Like the tax incentives are huge to
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: go shoot in these places.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: The one when California matched them, it seems like. I
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: think like.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: It's just like we were saying, politics is always down
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: river from culture. So they're gonna have to learn the
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: hard way. They're gonna have to see the industry actually
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: start to be negatively impacted for a while. And then
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: they're gonna have to vote out whoever's in power with
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: that kind of influence. But LA thrives on Hollywood. There
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: isn't LA without Hollywood. That's the industry.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: I guess then it's kind of like Barcelona or something
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: in a way. Some cool museums and it's beautiful.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: We don't even know you guys have museums out here.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: I'm being honest with you.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: Like somebody told me that. They're like, oh yeah, we
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: were spending some time in museums. I was like, you
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: got museums out here? Like I thought you had that
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: observatory shit that's up on the hill and that's it.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: We don't know that you have like the theater. Like
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: do you have plays that come out in LA?
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: I have no idea.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: Like can you watch Hamilton in LA ever?
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: It's a good question.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: Well, we don't really have that theater, that district, like
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: the theater district that New York has. I mean, Danny
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: McBride was saying this the other day. He goes, you know,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: I've always been kind of amazed that L.A. doesn't, like,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: historicize itself better as a structure. He's like, when you
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: go down the street here, you should be, every other
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: building should be, this is where.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: This was filmed.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: Right. This is where Sidney Poitier lived the first three
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: years that he lived here, in this apartment. Like, you know, like,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: and these buildings, we've kept them because they're, and some
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: of it is still the same because, you know, you
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: don't have as much wear and tear from the elements here.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: outside of like the fires recently, but you don't have
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: just like the constant salt in the air like you
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: do in a lot of places. But overall, he's like, yeah,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: I'm just kind of amazed that you don't go down
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: the street and every other building is historical for some reason.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: Bro, I think that's a fantastic point because that is
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: the coolest thing about LA Hollywood is like old Hollywood culture.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: Like there's that hotel, the Sunset Tower or whatever. And
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: it has this cool restaurant that feels like old Hollywood.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's cool in there. It's some fancy, bougie shit,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: but it still feels like, oh, I can imagine directors
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: in the 60s.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you saying, huh? What is that fucking
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: girl with the air blowing her dress up?
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, Shirley Temple or whatever?
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: No, my bro. Marilyn Monroe. Marilyn Monroe. Oh, sorry.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: Well, okay.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I'd like to have that stricken record. You're
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: talking unbelievable. Well, dude, I'll tell you something, buddy. Here's
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: the number one place, and I'm sorry. Who's the girl
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: where her dress was blown up? I don't know. It's L.A.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: He's right.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: He's right. Weinstein's innocent. Weinstein is innocent. I didn't think
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: if they're blowing anybody's dress up, it's going to be
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: a child, obviously. Dude, when people come to visit me,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: the one place that I take them every time, literally
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: the tour stop, is a cemetery that's near my apartment
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: in Westwood that has Marilyn Monroe's grave in it.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: Hugh Hefner, Errol Flynn.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: Carol O'Connor. The OGs.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: The guy from Bad Grampa or whatever. Walter Matthau. Walter
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: Matthau's in there. It's just like, you just show them
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: like this, you know, that's kind of the neatest thing,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: I think that's, I think it's a great point because
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: there is cool historical shit about L.A., But you got
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: to embrace it and then protect it. And I think
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: that maybe it's just such a new city. They don't
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: see the value in it. Like we you and I
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: are from very kind of like old places in terms
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: like American history, not world history, but like there's a
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: lot of history in.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: I'm going to give you New Orleans. I know you're
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: not from New Orleans, but like just this idea.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: There's like and it's important to us to maintain that.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: We actually like the way that the buildings look. When
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: a new fancy building goes up in New York, there's
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: always this immediate rejection. We're like, ah, these fucking glasses,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: there goes the neighborhood, or whatever it is. So we
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: try to protect, and I feel like LA is so transient.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: Everybody that comes here is coming from Maine or coming
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: from Montana or some.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: Shit like that to go make it. So they don't
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: really care that much about the history. They're like, what's
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: going on now?
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: But the people from here, like Dove, the people who
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: actually grew up here, and that is the industry, Yeah,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: I would like to see that protected. That's a great point.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: And then there's another version of you coming out here
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: that's not like a TMZ tour bus tour, whatever that
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: stupid shit is. We're like, this is The Rock's house.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: It's like, nah, go see where fucking Sidney Poitier lived
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: or go see where these historic actors, like What's-His-Face's first apartment,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: Jack Nicholson's first apartment.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: It'd be so cool if they had that and still
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: had it under, they had it like really locked in. Dude,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: the guy, the founder of Canes, this guy Todd Graves. Yeah.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: He still has his college.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: Apartment that was right next door to the first Canes
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: that's in Baton Rouge. And you go in there, dude,
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: and it is crazy. It's like it's from 30 years ago,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: you know, or 20, 22 years ago or something.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: And it's just like old TV. He's maintained everything.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: Maintained it all. Pictures from back then and shit. His
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: life got busy. And so he just wasn't there for
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: like eight years. And then he came back and it's
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: just like. with like Jordan and Shaq.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: He's a beast, that guy. Yeah, he stays so busy.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: He works really hard.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: He owns all of the Canes still, right? This is
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: not a franchise restaurant. I think he owns. It's unbelievably impressive.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: And maybe because I'm from New York, we just got one.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: There's one that just popped up in the East Village.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: But I was talking to a buddy of mine who's
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: actually one of his lawyers. And he was kind of
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: explaining it to him. It's like, this guy's like a
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: real ambitious kind of genius guy. To put that together,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: it's very hard to not sell off your company as
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: it becomes successful. To have that vision, like, I don't
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: know if you're like this, but if I'm building something
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: that's successful and then someone offers me $ 300 million for it,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: I'm like, ugh. Some people are crazy enough to go, nah,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: this shit is really worth $ 2 billion. I'm like, what
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: is $ 2 billion even? What is that money even?
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? There are people that say
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: no to $ 1 billion because they know it could be
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: worth $ 5. Isn't that crazy? What do you need that for?
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: You can tap out of whatever you're doing.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe they really love what they're doing. Maybe that's it.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: But then you just sell it and get locked in
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: as a consultant or whatever.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I guess you could, but maybe they would
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: hate that. Maybe they're like, it's my genius that drives this.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: Car. It's like that rigor mortis or whatever, whoever made
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: Frankenstein or whatever, the doctor or whatever, he wanted to
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: die with Frankenstein. He's like, you know, I think that's
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: what happened. What happened with Frankenstein? I fucking don't even
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: know what happened. It was Dr. Frankenstein and then it
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: was the creature. Yeah, isn't that crazy that we think
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: that Frankenstein is the lifeless animal? You know, but it
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: was actually the doctor.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: Imagine how he feels.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: He's like, what are you? Hey, my name's Rick. You know,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: it's like nobody fucking. I'm fucking Rick Hopkins. You know,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: I had a fucking bad frontal lobe surgery. Give me some.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: God damn.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: That's so true. It still goes back to you see
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: a clip of something. And you just believe it.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: That's what you believe. You just believe it, yeah.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: That motherfucker's name is not even Frankenstein. Yo, it's called Creature,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: which is way more adept, right? Like that feels like
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: the name for it, but not. But at least that's
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: his name. Yeah. God, dude. Yeah, shout out Frankenstein.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude. Oh, how's the Trump thing going over in
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: New York, dude?
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: You know what's so interesting? It was crazy how right
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: after the election was over, everybody just kind of went
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: on about regular life, kind of.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: Bro, it's, and like now I'm almost like annoyed by,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I thought we weren't going to have to
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: go through this again. Like, I don't know where, how
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: it is like here where you're, where you're living, but
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: we're back to like the bipartisan bickering, you know, like.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: Like this doge is a big deal, right?
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: Even though there's no American that wants like waste, there's
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: no American that wants like government bloat, there's no American
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: that wants like inefficiency. I don't think any of us
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: are like voting for those three things. So this should
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: be like unilateral support. Like we should all get behind it.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: And maybe the way that they're doing, I think Trump
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: even came out and be like, yo, we're gonna use
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: a scalpel, not a hatchet. Like I think we're being
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: a little bit too forceful with the firings or whatever.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: But this is one of those things where like it's
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: so annoying to, And I think you can blame Elon
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: for this as well. Like on Twitter, he's a little
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: bit antagonistic about shit. Yeah, I noticed that recently. Some
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: of the stuff he says, like, do you have to
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: say that? Like, what are you doing right there?
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: You're in power now. Like, I think you have to
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: have a little bit different energy when you're in power.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: I think when you're not in power, you're trying to
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: get to power. Maybe that antagonism is helpful, right? It can, like,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: embolden the base. But you're the leader now. Leaders don't
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: need to poke a finger and, like, twist a knife
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: or whatever.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: Well, I think what he's doing, I believe that what
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: Elon is doing is by creating all that commotion on Twitter,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: it's only helping his own business, right? So it creates
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: now that everybody wants to see what he's going to say,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: but he's saying so many things it's hard to even juggle.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: but so many people are engaging and interacting. I feel
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: like it's probably the number one news app. I don't
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: know if it's always been the number one news app.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: It has to be.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: It has to be. But he's just stirring his own business.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: So the more he does that, it's more impressions, the
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: more ads that he can sell, right?
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: But you're basically creating a place for people to go
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: consume content in general. And if he's the biggest creator
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: on that platform, then it makes sense that he continues
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: to create So you're saying that he's not doing this
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: just to get out information, but he's also doing this
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: to uplift the app.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: It's like a hype machine, yeah.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow, that's a good take. I don't know if
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: that's true. But that's the feeling you get from it.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: I'm at least, because otherwise, some of this shit's kind
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: of insane. It's like, what is this? How is he
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: doing all of these things? And if he's not doing
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: all these things, because who could have time to do
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: all of this?
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: To do all these things, yeah.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: Then who is doing it?
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: And it's kind of annoying because he's a genius, right?
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: You want him on your side. Like I want the
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: guy who makes the rockets on America's side if we
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: go to World War III.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: Like I think that's a pretty good idea that we
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: get the guy who's going to send a ship to
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: Mars on our side if we're going to have like
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: drone warfare throughout the world.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: Like let's keep him in our good graces. I do
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: think– and I'm a little bit more optimistic about this administration.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: That's what I've realized with most people, like sane people,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: is that if you don't– if you didn't vote for
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: Trump but you're not like a complete like lunatic extremist–
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: On both sides, by the way. If you're just kind
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: of like a normal, regular guy, but you feel like
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: you lean left a little bit more, you go, you
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: just are pessimistic about the administration.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: And if you lean maybe right a little bit more, but.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: You're not some insane right-wing quack, you're optimistic about the administration.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: We both kind of want the same thing. We want
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: the best thing for American people. We might disagree about
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: where we get there, but we do want the most opportunity, wealth,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: ease of living for American people. So- When it comes
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: to the administration, I'm a little bit more optimistic about it.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, let's just see how this works. Right,
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: that's how I feel. People are going, oh, he's doing
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: all these tariffs. It's like, my man, I'm not an economist.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: I know you aren't an economist. I don't know if
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: this is a negotiation. If you go to buy a
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: car and the car is like 100 grand and you
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: go in, you go, all right, I'm going to offer
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: 80 grand, right? Knowing that they're going to settle around 90, right?
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: The problem is when you do that, you do that
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: in privacy with the car dealer. Trump got to do
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: it publicly. And now he's got people in his own
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: country going.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: How dare you offer 80? That's so disrespectful.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: And he can't come out and go, dumbass, we're going
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: to settle at 90. I just got to start at 80.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: So could you give me fucking two weeks?
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't give him any.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: Nobody gives him a beat to see what the long
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: term plan is. Like if you want manufacturing jobs back
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: in America, then you have to make it so that
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: it makes more sense for people to make cars in America.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 4: Maybe.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: That's just business. Like, I agree with you. I would,
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: I never was against Biden. I've never been against anybody
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: that's been in office. I've always just wanted the best.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: It's like, I want the best. I'm never going to
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: depend on the government for my life. Like, I don't
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: wake up every day and see what the fucking government's doing.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: I get out of bed and I try and take
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: care of myself or, you know, you know, take care
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: of your family like you're doing.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: It's like, that's probably what most people think.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Anybody that has time to argue online all day
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: is also insane, right? Like, Not saying that we don't
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: all put our beliefs out there sometimes, but... I hear
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: what you're saying. But it's like.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: But you have to, like... That's one thing.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: Somebody said the other night, oh, Trump said it during
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: that whole, like, state of the whatever, the... Yeah.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: Delegacy address. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: It was like the state of the two parties are addressing.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: If you got to watch the hour and a half
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: of that, I don't care what side of it. This
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: shit was hilarious. It was like somebody who wrote, like,
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: noises off or something.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: It was just.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: fascinating joint congressional committees address or whatever. Yeah, there was
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: like fucking, they kept cutting this white dude that was asleep.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: They threw Al Green out. People thought he was Jimmy Snuka.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: They fucking threw him out, dude. They kept people, like
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: Democrats that only had their feelings on little signs that
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: said like not good or gazoom tight or whatever.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: I bumped into Al Green at the breakfast club he
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: was going on after me. And someone was like, hey,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: who wants to, Al Green wants to say hello.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, sure. That'd be cool. And
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: this guy just got chucked out of the fucking Senate.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: That'd be, you know, whatever.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: And I went and I go and I shake it
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: and like his like handle or something like that is
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: like waiting there with like a camera like tucked here
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: for the handshake picture. And I was like, did I
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: just get set up in a photo op to make
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: me look sympathetic to what happened? I'm like, what exactly
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: is going on?
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: Well, that's also scary when everybody has cameras everywhere now.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: A lot of people thought that was Jimmy Stunker, which
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: makes total sense as well.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: I think it, still think it was, dude.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: What a body, huh? Let's get it on. Um, was that,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: that was Al Green, Let's Get It On?
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: Let's get it on. Yeah, I think so. But yeah,
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: so it's a tricky, yeah, it's a tricky, it's a
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: tricky time now, politically.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: But I just still, like, yeah, you kind of hope, like,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: hopefully there's some long-term strategy here. It's like, because if
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: you just look at the little bits, it's kind of
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: fucking scary.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: Also, if the, if, and I'm not trying to just, like,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: bag on the last administration, but like, If people are
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: uncomfortable and the last administration was running on this platform of, hey,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: we're going to keep doing the same thing that we've
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: been doing.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: That was a bad plan.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: You can't really blame Americans for going, well, that's not
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: working for me right now. I got to try something different.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 3: And then giving the new thing a little bit of leeway.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 3: It's not like, again, I might be more optimistic. And
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: if it goes bad, I will be the first person
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: to criticize it. I have no problem criticizing whoever's in power.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: This is the easiest thing in the fucking world for me.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: But I am hoping... I'm at least going to give
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: a little bit of grace and hoping that this is
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: going to work out for all of us. And I'm
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: going to give it more than a fucking few months.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: I'm going to give it a little bit to see
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: where it goes. And if it does go, I'm not
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: going to be the guy to go, told you so,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: you fucking idiot. Because that's not the joy that it
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: brings me. The joy that it brings me is like, hey, shit,
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: we're actually making some cool change.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: Right, America's going to be doing better.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: We've got opportunity to start here and get up here.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: Imagine if you brought some industries back where people have
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: pride in their homes and in their towns.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: Dude, I'll tell you this. We've gone on this tour.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: I've been on. We've gone to probably 200. The top
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: 200 cities so far, size-wise, right? We've gone fucking everywhere.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: And a lot of the places, man, it's the same.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: It's like there's not a lot of businesses there. There's
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: some cities that have kind of changed and had some turnaround,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: and it's been uplifting. But there's been a lot of
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: places that it hasn't, you know? And it's sad. It's like, oh,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: all this place needs is one good, like, influx of
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: people– And a purpose, you know, when people have jobs,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: they have purpose. Yeah. And so it's like, I'm just
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: going to, I'm for surely going to stay hopeful. I
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: hope that if, if, if there's some tariff stuff and
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: then we start making our own fucking cars here, dude,
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: there's a guy who just made a show. I, uh,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: a T um, a t-shirt, I think it's called American giant.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: Can you look that up?
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: There's a guy, he wanted to make, find a t-shirt
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: that was made in America, American giant clothing.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: He couldn't even get a t-shirt. That was completely made here.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: He couldn't get a, he couldn't get a, whatever this
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: is called, a template or a blank.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a blank.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: In America.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: He couldn't, they didn't have it, right? They didn't, we
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: don't make a fucking t-shirt in this company, right? Country, yeah. So.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: Don't they make Teslas here?
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: So Teslas are an American made car.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: So like bare minimum, and like, I'm not trying to
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: knock any of the American, you know, other American cars, right? Like, but.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think Ford is entirely made here.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: Right. I might be wrong.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think they are.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: You drive Ford, somebody said to me. I'm like, that's
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: when I knew. I'm like, hold on. How's this guy
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: know how to pronounce it? Swedish guy?
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: That's a great question. Let's look that up.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. What cars are made here? What percentage of Teslas
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: are made in America? What percentage of Fords are made
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: in America? That's a great question, man.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: And I guess that you could be putting together the
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: full car here, but maybe there's certain factors that are
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: doing other stuff. And I'm okay with that. I'm okay
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: with outsourcing to different countries. I think it gives them
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 3: opportunities as well.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: That's a cool thing.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: But Tesla claims that nearly 100% of the vehicles it
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: sells in the United States are manufactured domestically. Exceeding the
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: industry average of 52%. Wow. Now, that doesn't mean they
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: don't make cars in other countries as well.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: But the ones that are sold here are made here.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: Regardless. Okay. If we want to attack a car company, right?
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: And again, I don't know if they're attacking Tesla because
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: they don't like the product. They're attacking Tesla because they
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: don't like the CEO of the company. And that is
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: the risk of being a celebrity CEO. By the way,
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: there's like CEOs of, and you talk about this all
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 3: the time, but like some of these like pharmaceutical companies,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: we don't know who the fuck they are.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: And there's a reason because if we did.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: People would get him. Something could happen. Something could happen.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: We don't know.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: Something could happen. Somebody could throw him a surprise party. Bro,
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: if you.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: Have a billion dollar business and nobody knows who you are,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: you're doing some fucked.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: Up shit, my boy. Yeah, you're doing some fucked shit, man. Right?
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: You're doing some fucked shit, homie, yeah. For real.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: So this is like a kind of shitty situation where like, yes,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: I understand that he's antagonizing people. He's like rubbing people
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: the wrong way. You don't like the guy. You don't
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: like the beliefs. You don't like what he's doing. And
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 3: there are things to criticize. I'm not saying there aren't
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: things to criticize. Nobody's above criticism.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. to punish that car company that is 100% made
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: in America, made by people living in America. Americans rely
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: on those jobs. Like, maybe we criticize another thing.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: Like, what is your goal? That we shut down those
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: factories and those Americans lose those jobs? That makes you
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: feel better about your gripe with Elon?
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: Some people, they just want to win an argument, it
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: feels like, you know, sometimes.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: There's people that rely on those fucking jobs.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, for sure. They got kids, bro. Oh, yeah.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, dude, there's no doubt about it.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: But here's one thing that I think is sad about
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: Doge is that the fact that we now have to
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: have someone audit our own government. Our government is supposed
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: to be the thing that we can trust. Like it
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: will never end now. And people are like, why is
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: this guy having a team that audits? It's like, I agree,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: but I'll let anybody audit. If you bring on another company,
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: they audit and they find, I give them 10% of
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: the bloat that they find. If they, you know what
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? The simple fact that we now have to
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: audit our own government. Yeah.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, I just, you know, I don't, people I
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: think will, gravitate towards corruption naturally. And I think it's
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: something that you constantly have to fight every single second.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you definitely have to.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: You said something interesting though, like this idea, like you
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: wake up every morning, you're like, I don't expect the
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: government to do something for me. I think that's a
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 3: more like Southern and frontier belief. You know, I think
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: that like when you grow up in like New York,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: there is this relationship with the government where you're like,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: if the roads are fucked up, you start going, yo,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: why are the roads fucked up? Like we're spending all
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: this money in taxes or like the government, you're supposed
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: to do it. You're giving me all these rules I
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 3: got to live by. So you might as well do
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: some shit. But that's interesting that you have this perspective,
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 3: which is like, I don't expect anything from you guys.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 3: And I wonder if when they encroach on your freedoms,
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: it's that much more annoying because you're like, I don't
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 3: rely on you for.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: Anything and you're going to tell me what to do?
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: Whereas we might be more accepting of the laws and
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: the encroachment of freedoms because we are more reliant on
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 3: on them for certain things. And I wonder if that's
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: why some of the COVID stuff was way easier to
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: accept in big cities, because we already had this symbiotic
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 3: relationship with government. Whereas in a place like Florida or
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: even other southern, maybe I guess some red states, not all.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of rural areas.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: In more rural areas, it's like, yo, listen, don't mess
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: with me, because I don't ask you for shit.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: And now you're getting into my house and telling me
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: what to do when I already don't ask you for anything.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: We have one road.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: We keep it clean.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: It's fine.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: I drive a truck. So you don't have to pave it. Yeah.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: It's fine. That's it. Right.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: We're doing, yeah.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's a good, it is interesting how like different
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: areas could affect your perception. And yeah, like I think
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of like, one other thing is I think
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of people just worry about our tradition starting
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: to disappear. And I think that's where a lot of
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: pushback comes from. What do you mean by that? Just like,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: you know, like tearing down a statues and saying that
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: everything is racist and stuff and not honoring our history,
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: whether it is racist or not, like not did not like,
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: you know, if you take it away completely in three generations, no, you.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: Know, this is the tricky thing where it's like, I, okay. I,
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 3: I try to meet people at their intentions. Cause I
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 3: often want people to judge me on my intentions. When
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: I say some like crazy fucked up joke, that's not
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 3: even fully fleshed out on a podcast and I'm, I
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 3: want people to go, oh, he just wanted it to
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 3: be funny, not, oh, this guy's an evil asshole. So
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: when I see people taking the progressive measures that might
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 3: feel like they're going too far.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: I at least have some empathy. I go, all right,
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: I know what you're trying to do.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 3: You're trying to make this world that we live in,
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 3: this country we live in, a more comfortable place for everybody.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: And you're thinking about these oppressed or ostracized groups and
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: you're like, how can they not see certain imagery that
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 3: might remind them of these horrible things that their ancestors
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 3: went through? So like I go, okay, I get that
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 3: maybe you have some really good intentions here. And then
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: we can meet at that where we go, I get
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 3: your good intentions. And then we start to have, then
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 3: let's have the conversation of, okay, how much of that
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: are we going to remove before we start removing like
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 3: the history of our country from and some of the
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 3: history's ugly and it's unfortunate, but it is the history.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: Removing it doesn't remove the history. But at least not
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: looking at them like they're assholes that wanna destroy America.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 3: Maybe some of them are, but I think some of
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: them also just kinda wanna make life better for people.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: I don't think everybody's bad. I think there are bad
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 3: actors on both sides. But I think there's some people
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: who like maybe they were bullied a lot as a
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: kid and they're like, man, I don't want anybody to
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: go through that shit.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I don't.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: I want to look out for some people and create
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: some more protections. And sometimes those protections might go like
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: a little bit too far. And then sometimes instead of
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 3: creating protections, people will like hurt people, hurt people. They'll
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: do the opposite. They'll be like, oh, white people are horrible.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 3: It's like, OK, OK, you're going too far.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: You might've experienced some really fucked up people in your
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: childhood and maybe you have that way of looking at it,
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 3: but it's not going to help if that's your way
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 3: of communicating.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: I think the truth is usually kind of in the middle.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: I think you're right.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: You know? And the fact that, yeah, it's like, it's,
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: it's so funny.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: It's like you get so stuck in your own perspective
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: of what your own perspective is and you need to
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: be in your own perspective because it's a survival thing too.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: It's like, of course, if I'm sitting here daydreaming or
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: something and I get attacked by an animal or something,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: then that's on me. Right.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: But it's like, But to actually put yourself in somebody
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: else's shoes and think like, well, what is it?
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: What is it really like?
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: You know, or what is like going through like certain
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: classes or history class or things like that? Like if
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: you're a different ethnicity or different sex or something, what's
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: that shit really like, you know? They're supposed to have
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: VR goggles that were supposed to be able to do that,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: you know? Yeah, we could just see what it was
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: like being Native American back in the day. Hey, uh-huh.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all Italians.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: Look, the goggles kind of like, they set it up
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: to make it sound like who really killed the Native
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: Americans was Italian. Christopher Columbus, look at these guys. Hey,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: fucking red horse, get over here. Hey, how many necklaces
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: we gonna wear, huh? You called it night, I bought
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: some blankets. Hey, hey, hey, huh? That would be cool, though.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: But you could set it to any way, you know?
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: Because he was Italian, right? Wasn't Columbus Italian?
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: They said he was.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: Who the fucking knows, dude? I'm sure he was probably
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: Italian via Israel.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: According to us. According to us.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: A lot of Reddit feeds this week. Twitter, they just
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: blame everything on the Jews, bro.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 3: Like, it's not even shit that you didn't even imagine.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: It's the Jews' fault, right? They got nothing to do
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: with it. Soon they're going to blame Christmas on the Jews. Oh,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: that was kind of... The Jews are impressed but also
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: not cool at the same time. What if they're like, yo,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: can you blame some good shit too? We did some
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: good shit, right? Y'all like Christianity? You like watching Family Man,
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: don't you? That's one of your favorite Christmas movies, isn't it?
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: Gangs in New York, who do you think fucking put
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: that together? All them Christmas carols. They're probably written by Jews.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: A lot of them are, man.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 4: See?
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: It's so funny. Yeah, what are we going to do?
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 4: What, um.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of what else is going on, dude,
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: that I was thinking about. What's up in your life, man?
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: Everything's fine, man. I've just been working a lot, you know? Like,
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: last year we really focused on if we had some
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: time off to go and just work, like, go travel
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: to a place to get guests and stuff, you know? Yeah.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: So it was, like, a big focus last year to
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: do that. Have you taken, like? A vacation?
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: No, not in a while. I was supposed to get
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: one over the holidays and it just didn't happen.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: Do you like, do you like taking time off? Does
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: that feed you at all? Yeah, I need it.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: I need more of it. And do you enjoy it?
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 3: Like, is your time off just hanging at a beach
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 3: or do you like going to like a city that
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 3: you're really interested in, like learning about the history?
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: Like what is, what is your version of a. It's
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: just been the beach really.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: I think I've been like, I think I just kind
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: of got, I just put so much work on the
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: calendar that I didn't start to schedules. I would love
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: to take two weeks off and go to like a
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: country or something. That'd be awesome. You know? Yeah.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: So, but then I start to think about that.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: Like, well, I should probably get a girlfriend or like
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: a fiance first because if you go by your, who
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: are you going to, unless you get a buddy to
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: go with or something, that could be fun. But it's
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: like two weeks. You can't really go by yourself really,
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: you know? And so then it's like, what are you
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: gonna do exactly I imagine you with like a small
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: Asian tour guide and that's it just you guys motorcycling
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: around Vietnam or Cambodia just say shit to them all
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: the time knock knock yeah that would be that would
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: be ideal yeah but no traveling alone is cool too
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: cutting them little feed them a little piece of yam
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: or whatever yeah I mean you don't have to feed
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: them you know they might feed themselves out there Uh,
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: the first struggle Bayard went through, the first struggle was
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: finding all the components, the cotton, the buttons, the zippers,
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: the rivets. Uh, once Bayard did all that, he ended
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: up with his first product, a plain hooded sweatshirt. Um,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: we already know all this stuff. Um, I was looking
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: at what some of the price issues were and stuff
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: that he faced, but it was a nightmare for this
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: guy to do it. And he couldn't get it done
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: at like, you know, it came down like $ 37 or something,
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: which is, you know, which, but to do it on
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: a regular basis. And then Walmart is, decided we're gonna
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: support him, we're gonna give him like a big order.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: That's fire.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: That's kind of where he's at right now.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: And if you can make a big order, you can
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: obviously reduce the pricing.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: Right, then you can go ahead to the place and say, look,
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: now I'm gonna order this many, can you give me
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: a better rate?
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 3: Can you get the material from, does the material also
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 3: have to come from here? I imagine we have to
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 3: get all of our material from other countries.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: That's a good question. Are we creating textiles here?
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: That's a good question. It's crazy because you don't know that,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like a lot of this stuff we
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: don't even know. And then you look around and you're like,
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: but if you find out that we can't even you
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: can't even get a T-shirt here, then you're like, well, fuck,
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: if we're not even making one T-shirt, then what are
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: we making here?
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, we're completely reliant. It's it's a little scary,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: I guess. That's the thing. It starts to get scary.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: Because, yeah, I mean, because T-shirts are the the least
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 3: necessary product that we are completely reliant on other countries for.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 3: So if we're relying on T-shirts, what else are we
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 3: relying on? Are we relying on technology in some ways?
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 3: What are the things that become at-risk topics for us
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 3: that we're relying on other countries? Because it's nice to
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: know that you're not reliant or that the entire world
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: is reliant on each other. And if everybody's relying on
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: each other, okay, then there's a mutually assured destruction.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's good. Right, just tell us the truth. If
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: we know everything, I would just love it if here's
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: the exact facts.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 3: Yo, when do you think, all right, you know how, like,
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 3: conspiracies are incredibly popular right now, and, like, now everybody
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 3: kind of knows the conspiracies. So that immediate hit of
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 3: dopamine you get when you, like, share, like, the real
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: truth with somebody who doesn't know it, and when they
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 3: look at you, they're like, oh, my God, you're so smart,
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 3: or whatever. Now that everybody knows the conspiracies, do you
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 3: think that we start, the pendulum starts to shift back to, like,
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 3: kind of what really happened. Because the conspiracy is like
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 3: the most exaggerated version of what happened. And what really
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 3: happened is probably pretty boring. Like the truth of most
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 3: things is probably pretty fucking boring.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: It's not what the media has told us. That's for certain.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: Those are lies, 100%. But it's not what like... the
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: Reddit historians have said, and it's probably in here. And
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: then we all go, all right. Yeah.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 3: Like that is, I wonder if like, there's something like that,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 3: even to the Epstein list, like everybody's waiting for this
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 3: Epstein list and they're waiting for it to be like
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 3: direct logs where it's like Bill Gates paid for anal
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: from a 16 year old at.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: The, the, the, the, the, the, the like four 30
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: or whatever. And then it's like name pictured fucking whatever
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: it is. And then, Every time they hand out, like,
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: the binder or whatever it is, nothing that crazy comes out. Now,
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I believe he's, like, a prolific pedophile. Like,
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: if he is still alive, find him and fucking kill him.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: The girl, too. Anybody who's involved in it, defended it.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: Anybody who's on the fucking flight logs, put them in prison. Like, let's...
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: We need some justice here.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 3: But... Have we created an idea of what this is,
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: which is so far removed from what it actually is?
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: Right. And that's why they haven't really like, this is
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: going to be so upsetting. There's seven people. They're going
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: to think we're liars anyway. Right.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: Like, cause imagine they gave us lists and there was like,
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 3: there was like 25 people on it.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 3: We'd be like, man, you fucking pieces of shit lying
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: to us again.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: Like the only thing we would believe if, if literally
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: every single world leader was went in there. Right.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: They, yeah, they, this list better be. So that's why
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: I think there's still work.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: They're probably working with like top producers, Eli Roth, like
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: guys who really can put on a good show. Todd Phillips,
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: you know, until we sell this story. He was on
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: here like he's off, but yeah, I think, yeah. How
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: do we, what do we, this has to be good.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: Why don't we just get, this is the way I
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: was thinking. We, we solved it. The guy who gave,
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: who let.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: Uh, Epstein manages money is this guy named Les Wexner
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 3: or something like that. He's this guy who started Victoria's Secret.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 3: And like, I don't even think Epstein went to college
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 3: or something. So like, how the fuck do you end
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 3: up managing this billionaire's money? This guy's like 90 years old.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 3: Give him immunity.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: Just go, yeah, this guy right here. Les Wexner, okay?
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: He's a billionaire.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 3: He's 87 years old. You just go listen. You're about
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 3: to fucking die. Can you just tell us what happened?
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 3: Tell us what happened. We'll give you immunity. you don't
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 3: get to die a hero at all. You're a piece
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 3: of shit that probably funded this whole fucking thing or
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 3: connected different people to different stuff.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: We don't know what the fuck you're actually doing.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: You're involved. But you don't get to die a, well,
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: you're still a diabolical piece of shit, but maybe you
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: do one good thing in your life before you fucking die.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: And then the American people get some satisfaction. The victims
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: get some satisfaction. We get to actually know what's happening.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: Because I don't even know if we, I don't know
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: if we actually will get to know what's happening unless
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: somebody who was involved says it specifically.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 3: And I don't believe Ghislaine, because I think her pops was,
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 3: he was part of Mossad, right? So I don't believe
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: anything she's going to say.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody's going to tell the truth. Right? I'm just
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: amazed that that many people wanted to be pedophiles or whatever.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: So here's the thing. I don't know.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: That's part of me that doesn't believe that. I'm like,
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: you're telling me.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think they wanted to.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 3: I think he was like, yo, I got some young
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 3: bitches on an island.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: We're all going to fuck.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: But I don't think that he said, I have underage
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: women to incriminate you on an island. Right. I think
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: he's like, yo, I got some 20-year-old fucking Russian bitches.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: They're on an island. And all these dudes were like, oh,
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: we're going to go party with Russian bitches? Yeah. I
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: wonder if it's as simple as like some club promoter going,
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: I got a table full of girls at Tao tonight.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: You want to party?
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: And people go, well, that sounds like a great idea.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: Nobody's IDing those girls. Right. And they for sure aren't
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: IDing them because why would they go, yeah, this guy's
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: going to make me a pedophile this weekend. Yeah. Right?
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And then maybe afterwards they go,
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: by the way, that girl was this old.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to need you.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 3: On a certain day to do a favor. That's how
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: I would imagine it would be most effective.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: And what if some of the girls were not even
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: underage or anything? You don't even know if you got,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: you could have somebody say that, you're so scared, you're
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: already like, there's some favor in the wind. That alone,
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: the mirage of that, That's the biggest thing. You have
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: no fucking idea. That's a great point too. But you're
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: going to be so scared. Like, well, first of all,
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: I don't want to see, I'm so bad at sex.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: I don't want anybody to see a video of it.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: Fucking a hooker on an island still is bad. If
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: you're like a political figure that has a family and
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: you have children, like you could be, it could be old.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: They could be old enough. And it's still like, you
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: don't want that out because it ruins your career. Yeah.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: So yeah, there are many ways to do it.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's definitely.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: And then it's like, how do you doctor all that
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: up to present it to the American? Because it's a
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: fucking you have to find you have to serve a
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: Mona Lisa to the American people. There's because there's no.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: But then they're like, we have to make sure all
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: these people that information that's released, but maybe some of
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: that's true. If like you put information and has a
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: name in it that you're not sure. And then you
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: get sued by that person. Or you got to.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 3: Protect these girls who are underage and they were by
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 3: these famous people. And like, they have moved on with
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 3: their lives. They got families. Do they want their information
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 3: out there in the world? Probably not. They're like, I
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 3: don't want to relive that shit. So redact me or
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 3: whatever that term is.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I just feel like we're at this point
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 3: where like, if we're going through this phase in America
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 3: where we are, We're an all-time low trust in all
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 3: of our institutions.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 2: And what happens from here? There's two ways we go.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: Talk to me. It gets better somehow.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: Or. Or it starts to devolve even more. And crazier. See,
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: it gets deeper and deeper. It's so funny because I've
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: had both feelings yesterday. I had the feeling like, holy shit, dude.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: Nobody's going to know where to trust anything anymore. It's
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: going to get really interesting.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: Or you start being honest.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: Like that's kind of. That's why.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 3: Right, or you start being honest. And like, yo, we're Americans.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 3: We can deal with shit. Like we've dealt with horrible
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 3: things before in our past. Even as humans we can.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: That's it. So it's like, and I.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 3: Think there's a version where like accepting these things and
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 3: moving on allows us to have even more pride. where
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 3: right now we're in this age of ambiguity where we
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 3: wanna be really proud, but we're like, but is some
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 3: of this shit true? We're just unsure. Let us accept it.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 3: Let's accept the stains on our history, and then let's
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 3: move on and make greater history. Let's make greater things
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 3: to be proud of. I think it's a moment in
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 3: history to be proud of where an administration comes in,
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 3: they go, listen, unfortunately, the government let these food companies
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 3: poison you. And a lot of people are negatively impacted
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 3: like that. A lot of people got cancer probably because
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 3: of food that they were eating. And that's fucked up.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 3: That's horrible. And we're going to either punish some of
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 3: those food organizations or bare minimum, we're going to make
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 3: it illegal for them to do that shit. Hey, some
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 3: of these pharmaceutical companies, they were jabbing you up with
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 3: shit that you didn't need to be jabbed up with.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 3: And they were doing that so they could profit. We're
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 3: going to either punish them or we're going to stop
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 3: allowing them to do it so the next generation of
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 3: Americans can do it. doesn't have to go through what
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 3: you guys went through. And then you go, you know
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 3: what's fire about America? We realize when we fucked up
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 3: and we have the energy and excitement and the confidence,
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 3: the self-esteem to go, all right, we're changing it and
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 3: we're going to live up to the expectations that we
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 3: have for ourselves.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 3: And that's why I like, you could say whatever you
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 3: want about RFK. It seems to me what he wants
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 3: to do is make a positive change for people. Let's
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 3: see if he's able to do it. But in terms
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 3: of making America healthy or whatever the slogan is, why
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 3: would you not want America to be more healthy? Give
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 3: the guy a second to fucking try it.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: Every minute they're like, this is the problem today. And
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: then that becomes a story every day. It's just like
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: how fucked up it is. And I have friends now
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: that are addicted to the news and I'm just like, dude,
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: just live your life. See, everything's going to probably be fine.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: It's already been fine. We're already damaged. We all have
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: cancer or whatever. Everything, you know, we're doing our best
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: and shit. And like, you know, how drastically bad do
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: you expect things to get? You know? Wouldn't it be cool?
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: Like, this is all I said.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 3: Like, obviously, you know, I have a daughter, so I'm like,
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 3: and she's of the age we're going through vaccines and stuff.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: And it's terrifying. You know, I was talking to Joe
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 2: about this.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 3: It was like, it's the most terrifying thing you ever
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 3: experienced in your life is you have the most perfect
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 3: thing you've ever created. And you have to put something
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 3: in them. And you've watched a video on YouTube that
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 3: says that it could do something horrible to her. But
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 3: if you don't do it, she could get some disease
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 3: that could do something horrible to her.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: So you're like, what?
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 3: How do I protect my kid? There's a fork in
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 3: the road and both potentially leads to horrible. How do
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 3: I protect my kid? I would love nothing more than
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 3: to do like an intense like and I'm sure they've
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 3: already done this. So if they have and call me
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 3: an idiot, that's fine.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 2: I'm an idiot, whatever.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 3: But intense research into the vaccinations. And I would love
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 3: nothing more if we found out, hey, you know what?
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 3: It looks like they are safe for them, and there's
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 3: very low chance cause of anything negative for your kid.
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 3: How much nicer would that feel than right now what
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 3: all of us new parents are feeling, which are like,
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 3: do I have to delay it?
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: Which ones? How do I protect my child?
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: Like, just, like, we want the research. We want it.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: We want to know. And I think if you gave
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: Bobby an out, you know, even if it was 20
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: minutes a week where he gave a speech or something,
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: and maybe he should start doing that to update people.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 2: Robert Kennedy Jr.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 1: Would say, hey, this is where things are at, and
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: we're going to try our best, and this is what
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: we're going to try to do. Maybe that would be
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: great to have some sort of an address. Love it.
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: You know, Trump's addresses, sometimes they're so, you know, they're Trumpian,
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 1: you know, they're just, like, kind of the bare facts and, like,
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: you know, we're going to win type shit. So maybe
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: if you had Vance give something that was a little
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: bit more elongated and a little bit more, had a
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: little bit more personal notation and feeling to it, like a,
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: Didn't FDR do that? I think they were called the
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 2: Fireside Chats.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Where he was talking to people. I think
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: you're right.
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 2: We might need something like that.
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 3: Dude, because there's so much muck out there. There's so
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 3: much bullshit information. And like, we're guilty of that too.
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 3: We just spout whatever on the fucking mic and who
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 3: knows if it's true or not. But, It'd be nice
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 3: if we had information disseminated from the people in power.
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 3: It might be wrong or it might be right, but
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 3: they are the people in power. So we can at
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 3: least hold them to that standard. If they say that
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 3: they're doing this specific thing and we disagree with it,
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 3: we can be like, I disagree with that. But if
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 3: Bobby's coming out and he's going, listen, we're getting the
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 3: red dye out of here. It doesn't benefit anybody.
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: There are other ways to create, I don't know, sugar
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: coloring substitutes that are less harmful to you.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 2: Does anybody disagree with this? Everybody goes, no.
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, done.
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 4: Right. Thanks.
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There's still so many people that just want somebody
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: to be wrong all the time, you know?
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 2: So maybe that'll start to go away. I don't know.
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think if I wake up each day
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 1: and I looked at everything as politics and stuff and, um,
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 1: it would just, it just starts to wear on you.
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 1: And then that algorithm learns you and then you're a
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 1: good fucking puppet. You become a puppet. What else is
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: going on? Let's think of something in entertainment. I'm trying
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 1: to think of something. Um, was there a job that
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 1: you had when you were young that you miss ever? Hmm.
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: That you were like, I'm fucking good at this shit.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 3: It wasn't that I was good at it, but I
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 3: liked mowing lawns. Like I felt like accomplished afterwards. Like
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 3: I'd look at it and I'd go, wow, I did that.
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 2: That was kind of annoying.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: It was hard.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 3: But there, here's this thing that I did and it
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 3: looks better now. And I felt proud of it. And
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 3: I think there's a version of that in creating stuff
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 3: in general. But I think very early, I like to,
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 3: To work on something and then see the thing I created.
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 3: And so, yeah, there was something really nice about that.
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 3: Now I get to do a job where I like
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 3: the actual work part and I like seeing the end product.
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't enjoy the work part of it. But, yeah,
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: I think that, you know, I'm trying to think. I mean,
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: I just worked in, like, restaurants. Oh, yeah, you definitely did.
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: I can see you for sure. For sure. What restaurants
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 1: was I working at? Oh, obviously, Macaroni Grill, dude. No.
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: Dude, you wore a cape at Macaroni Grill.
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: I'm sure.
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 2: There's no way you didn't.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: We didn't have a Macaroni Grill in the city, man. Hey, look.
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: We needed a Macaroni Grill.
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 2: That's your origin story. I work at a pizza shop.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: I do look like I could pull off Pizza Shop, right? Yeah, dude.
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: I look like I was arguing with Spike Lee. I'm
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: trying to think of whatever I'm trying to think what
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 1: about you? I worked at Pizza Shop man I love
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 1: that shit dude that shit was good what was the first.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 3: Time do you remember the first time as a kid
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 3: that you made made money and like the feeling of that?
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah we had uh they'd pay you to clean
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: we had like wishing wells in our town or whatever
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 1: and they'd pay you to clean them out like the
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: city it's like take the coins out of it yeah
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 1: get in there like you had to take a ladder
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: down and get all the shit out and stuff and
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: there's like people throw fucking like a lot of used
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: like to-go waters and shit in that bitch, a lot
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 1: of Popeyes in that bitch. Decent amount of money, not
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: as much as you would think. Sword, we found a
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 1: fucking sword that had blood on it one time or
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: like a pretty Scalibert or whatever. But yeah, cleaning out that,
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: cleaning out those one summer, that was probably the first
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: job I ever had really. But get you a little
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: bit of money, hide my money too. Really? I used
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 1: to put my money in a Crown Royal bag, hide
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: it in the yard. How old were you?
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 2: Dig a hole and hide it.
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: Probably 11, maybe 12. Hide that fucking bag. That's a
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: nice bag. That bitch was nice, boy. You keep that bag.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 2: Isn't that weird?
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 1: Yep. Had some doubloons in it that I caught at
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 1: some of the parades and like the Mardi Gras parades.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: There's just these little medallions kind of like they're not
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: worth any money, but they had pictures of like different
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: historical figures from Louisiana on them because you catch them
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 1: at Mardi Gras.
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: And I put them in a bag and hide them
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: in the yard.
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 2: And why do you think you were hiding your pride?
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't trust anybody in the house. I knew everybody
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 1: in that bitch, yeah. Really? My three siblings and my mom,
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 1: I was burying that shit. Do you still talk to
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: your siblings?
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, we talk now. Things are good now.
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: But at the time, I didn't trust anybody in that bastard, dude,
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: because I was sneaking in their room and stealing shit.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: That's where it comes from. When you ain't shit, you
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: assume other people ain't shit. It starts here, though. It
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 1: starts here. I don't trust me so much that I
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 1: don't trust you. That's crazy, dude. What else, man?
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 2: What's up with the culture?
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 1: How's black stuff going over there? I know they have
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: that new rapper, Gen Lee. Have you seen him? Yeah,
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 1: I thought it was gin-ly. Is it gin? Like gin
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: for ginger. Well, first of all, he's a black dude
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 1: that says the N. Sorry, he's a white dude that
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: says the N-word, right? He put two N's in it,
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 1: so he misspelled it. So he could be either one.
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. But yeah, he's a.
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 2: It's interesting.
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he is. And he's confident saying it. He seems
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: really like he's from that culture. Yeah.
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 3: So now are we witnessing that word become more of
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 3: a cultural thing and not a specific race thing that's what.
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: I wonder because i'm just wondering like say you're so
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: much a part of the culture and it seems like
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: he is like he has black friends he says the
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 1: word around them if you're so much a part of
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 1: it but then you can't say that thing are you
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 1: then is that feel like the culture isn't saying well
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: you're you're you're here but you're not you're not so
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 1: i i have.
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 2: No idea but it's just it's interesting.
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 3: It is interesting it is interesting because it is like
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 3: So I guess when I was growing up in New York,
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 3: it was a thing that white people, we would never say,
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 3: and you could not say. But like Puerto Ricans that
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 3: were kind of like white presenting would say it, and
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 3: that was fine. I think even like Mexicans were kind
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 3: of saying it.
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 1: Sometimes even Asians would say it, but it felt really
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: like a word white people were not allowed to say,
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: obviously because of the historical context, right?
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 3: But That situation right there is quite interesting. Like if
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 3: he did grow up in this culture, maybe it's his
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 3: friend's way of saying, we don't see you as different, bro.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 3: Like we actually see you as one of us and
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 3: we don't feel any negative sentiment when you say it.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 3: And this is our way of saying we accept you
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 3: and you're not different.
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 1: Maybe. Again, I don't know.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 2: I'd have to ask them.
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 3: Whereas like if somebody else said it who is not
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 3: from the culture at all, They'd be like, yo, you
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 3: can't say that. And that's their way of saying, you're
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 3: not from the culture, bro.
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: Right. Like, you are not.
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 2: You're a visitor here, and you're not allowed to say
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 2: that thing.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of how I think I'm going to
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 1: say it. I just think it's interesting. It's kind of
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 1: interesting because you have people defending him online. You have
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 1: people calling him out online.
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 1: And some of his music is great, man. I mean,
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: it's catchy. I'm curious to see. Yeah, it's like, and
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 1: some of the lines he's saying, like, you know, don't
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 1: get in trouble because of my shit, like, you know.
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying this, I'm just saying this because this
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 1: is who I am. He even expresses in that Stand
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 1: On It song, don't repeat my shit just to get in.
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 1: And then now you get in trouble. Right.
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 2: Which I think is, yeah, that's empathetic. It's at least
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 2: giving his story, right?
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 3: Because he probably is aware that, oh shit, white kids
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 3: might see me doing this and then they think it's
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 3: okay for them to do it. And now they're getting
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 3: fucked up. And so he's like, listen, your life might
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 3: not be my life. Like, At least you put a
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 3: safety precaution on this shit. That's better than the parental advisory.
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 3: There's a white disclaimer.
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 1: Yo, you are not me.
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: That's a ginger advisory right there. That's a ginger advisory, dude.
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: But this could potentially open up gateways for some gingers
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: to say the N-word in some spicy, some, because they've
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 1: long been looming on the edge of the culture.
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 2: The ring around Saturn, they call them.
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 1: And it'll be interesting to see what happens. Yeah.
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 3: Do we, that's something like we got to ask ourselves, like,
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 3: are we fully accepting of gingers? Like are white people
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 3: fully accepting of the gingers? I mean, look, I don't,
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 3: are you even, what do you like part something?
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 2: My father's from Nicaragua. My mom and my mother's just white.
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 2: But, um, I don't, you know, I've thought, you know, Yeah,
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 2: I'm not an M1 guy. You're not dropping it.
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not. Fuck no. What am I fucking trying to
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 1: prove to somebody? But I do remember they had like
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 1: this cool band. I went to a black fraternity and
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 1: we'll get you out of here in a second. Which one?
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 2: I was an M1.
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 1: It was like Snoop or something.
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 2: State of Noop or something. Bring up a couple of
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 2: black fraternities over there.
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 1: Southern.
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 2: Alpha, what is it?
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: University. Alpha Kappa Psi?
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 2: Alpha.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 1: Beta, Phi Beta. Kappa Alpha Psi.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 2: That might have been it.
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 3: The Kappas are, have you seen the Kappas before? Kappas
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 3: are cool. They got like a cane, and they do
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 3: like these cool dances with the cane. My boy was
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 3: a Kappa in college. They could have been it. They
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 3: were like swagged out. And then the, what is it,
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 3: the Omegas, those are like the athlete, that's like the
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 3: athlete frat.
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, really? You know, Shaq?
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, Shaq has that.
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 2: The Q-Dogs.
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, that thing, Q-Dogs. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 2: I think it was Q-Dog shit, right?
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 1: They invited, they had like a, it was like, It
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 1: was Nickelback, but it was black guys doing it, right?
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: Don't even say it.
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 3: Don't even say the name of that cover band.
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: Don't even say the name of the Nickelback Black cover band, Theo.
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 1: We've almost done the whole pod, okay? We did a
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 1: good job. We did a good job. I know you're
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 1: trying to bait me with this, Gin Lee. We did
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 1: a good job today, okay? We did a good job today, Theo.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 2: Hear me out.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: Here we go. Light it on fire. Light it on fire.
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is a crazy cover band. Don't
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 1: do it. And then one of their songs was like, oh,
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 1: this is how you remind me? It's not. Okay. So
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 1: they're doing like hip hop renditions.
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 2: Hip hop renditions of Nickelback.
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 1: Nickelback. And just make sure you say it right. We
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 1: don't even have to go into it. That's so crazy
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 1: how we all know exactly how it was spelled. But yeah, look,
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 1: I just felt welcome to be in the building. So
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying, dude. This is how you remind me.
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: You're not mean. Never made it as a wild man, kid.
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 1: I'm going to spit that whole song right now. I'm
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 1: going to spit that whole shit right now, dude. I
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 1: don't want to have it, dude. Couldn't cut it as
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: a whole man's feeling.
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 2: We got to stop. It's only going to get worse.
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: Congratulations on life. The new special's out now. Congratulations on
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 1: being a dad, man.
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 2: Thank you, man. Thank you, man. Yeah, thanks for being
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 2: just somebody.
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good to have, like, that there's different podcasters
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 1: in different parts of the country and different parts of, like,
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: the world, you know? And it's just we're lucky to
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 1: be able to do this and to be able to
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 1: spend these conversations.
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 2: I got to come up.
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 1: There and get on your pod this summer, man. Oh, please, man.
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: I want you on Flagrant, and I want you on
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 1: Brilliant Idiots, man. I'll be up there in April, I think,
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: for a week.
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 2: You and Charlotte got to kick it, man. We got
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 2: to get together, I know.
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 1: Even if we just go grab a drink, I think
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 1: you guys would hit it off, bro. Oh, I'm sure
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 1: we would. You guys have great vibes. He's incredible, man.
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 1: He's incredible. I've only heard good things, man. It would
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 1: be an honor. But thank you so much for your time, dude.
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: I know it's very valuable and it means a lot,
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 1: and I just appreciate it.
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 2: Congrats on everything, man. You too, man. Super stoked for you, bro.
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: Congratulations.
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 2: Dude, this jacket, Zach Bryan gave me this jacket. It's
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 2: very hot in here.
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 1: I saw. I saw in the back.
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 2: I was trying to fit in a.
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 1: Little, so... He's as black as I get today, brother.
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: The Zach Bryan door jacket.
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 2: It kind of shows you where I'm at, you know?
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 1: Thanks, brother. All right, you bet, man. Thanks. Oh, that
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 1: was great. cornerstone oh but when I reach that ground
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 1: I'll share this peace of mind I found I can
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 1: feel it in my bones