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Unveiling the Challenges and Triumphs of a Military Spouse Children's Book Author · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

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Monica
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Voikut
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Deniston.
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Maggie
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the
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military
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rat.
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Monica,
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for
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joining
0:05
us
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on
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the
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Adventures
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in
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the
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Heart
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of
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Children's
0:07
Book
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Office,
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real
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pleasure
0:08
to
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have
0:09
you
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on
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the
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show.
0:10
Thank
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you
0:10
for
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having
0:11
me.
0:11
Before
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we
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jump
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in
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and
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talk
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about
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Maggie
0:14
the
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military
0:15
Rat,
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first
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I
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got
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to
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tell
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you
0:16
something
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about
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myself
0:17
here
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a
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little
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bit
0:18
because
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we're
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both
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military
0:21
rats.
0:21
Or
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as
0:22
you
0:22
talk
0:22
about
0:23
at
0:23
the
0:23
back
0:23
of
0:24
the
0:24
book,
0:24
the
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military
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brat,
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in
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my
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case,
0:27
my
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dad,
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was
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actually
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in
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the
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Canadian
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armed
0:29
forces.
0:31
We
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were
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called
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army
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brats.
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Okay.
0:35
And
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that
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was
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the
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only
0:36
difference.
0:37
And
0:37
it's
0:38
interesting
0:38
because
0:39
everything
0:39
that
0:40
you
0:40
said
0:40
you
0:41
wrote
0:41
in
0:41
the
0:41
little
0:42
blurb
0:42
at
0:43
the
0:43
back
0:43
of
0:43
the
0:43
book
0:43
was
0:44
so
0:44
true.
0:45
And
0:45
even
0:46
to
0:46
this
0:46
day.
0:47
And
0:47
I
0:47
don't
0:47
know
0:47
about
0:48
yourself,
0:48
but
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I
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went
0:50
to
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a
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Department
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of
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National
0:52
Defense
0:53
school.
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Okay.
0:54
I
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don't
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know
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if
0:55
they
0:55
have
0:55
that
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in
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the
0:56
American
0:57
military
0:58
forces.
0:59
They
0:59
do.
1:00
They
1:00
have
1:00
the
1:00
Department
1:01
of
1:01
Defense
1:01
Education,
1:02
DoDEA
1:03
agency,
1:04
and
1:04
they
1:04
run
1:05
like
1:05
the
1:05
overseas
1:05
schools.
1:06
My
1:06
children
1:07
personally
1:07
have
1:07
not
1:08
gone
1:08
to
1:08
DODEA
1:09
schools.
1:09
Okay.
1:10
We've
1:10
had
1:10
one
1:10
overseas
1:11
assignment
1:11
and
1:11
they
1:11
actually
1:11
went
1:12
to
1:12
an
1:12
international
1:12
school
1:13
there.
1:13
But
1:14
yes,
1:14
that
1:14
is
1:15
a
1:15
thing
1:15
that
1:16
US
1:16
Military
1:17
brats
1:17
also
1:17
experience.
1:18
My
1:18
first
1:19
three
1:19
schools
1:20
were
1:21
all
1:21
Department
1:22
of
1:22
National
1:23
Defense
1:23
schools.
1:24
Of
1:24
course,
1:25
they
1:25
were
1:25
all
1:26
teachers
1:26
from
1:27
civilian
1:28
walk
1:29
of
1:29
life.
1:29
I
1:30
don't
1:30
think
1:30
there
1:30
was
1:30
too
1:30
many.
1:31
I
1:31
never
1:32
even
1:32
thought
1:32
about
1:33
that
1:33
until
1:33
you
1:34
and
1:34
I
1:34
are
1:34
talking.
1:35
I
1:35
never
1:35
even
1:35
thought
1:35
about
1:36
was
1:36
any
1:36
of
1:37
the
1:37
teachers
1:38
or
1:38
their
1:38
spouses
1:40
in
1:40
the
1:40
military.
1:41
I
1:41
know
1:41
exactly
1:42
what
1:42
it's
1:42
all
1:43
about
1:43
when
1:43
you
1:43
talk
1:44
about
1:44
the
1:45
military
1:45
rat
1:46
and
1:46
even
1:46
your
1:47
story
1:47
about
1:47
your
1:48
child
1:49
coming
1:49
up
1:49
and
1:50
saying,
1:50
I'm
1:50
not
1:50
a
1:50
rat.
1:51
That
1:52
was
1:52
quite
1:52
cute.
1:53
I'd
1:53
love
1:53
to
1:54
discuss
1:55
the
1:55
inspiration
1:56
and
1:56
the
1:57
origin
1:57
story
1:58
and
1:59
REM
1:59
and
1:59
remind
2:00
the
2:00
audience
2:01
that
2:01
you
2:01
are
2:02
a
2:02
military
2:03
spouse.
2:03
Jump
2:03
right
2:04
in.
2:04
And
2:04
this
2:05
whole
2:05
children's
2:06
book
2:06
journey
2:07
started
2:07
for
2:07
you.
2:08
Yeah.
2:09
So
2:09
I've
2:09
always
2:09
loved
2:10
children's
2:10
books
2:11
and
2:11
reading.
2:11
I,
2:12
as
2:12
a
2:12
young
2:13
child,
2:13
I
2:14
grew
2:14
up
2:14
in
2:14
Romania
2:15
and
2:15
I
2:15
would
2:15
listen
2:16
to
2:16
records
2:17
of
2:17
fairy
2:17
tales
2:18
and
2:18
I
2:18
would
2:18
draw
2:18
the
2:18
pictures.
2:19
So
2:19
I've
2:19
loved
2:20
stories
2:20
for
2:20
as
2:21
long
2:21
as
2:21
I
2:21
can
2:21
remember.
2:22
And
2:22
when
2:22
my
2:23
family
2:23
moved
2:23
to
2:24
California
2:24
when
2:25
I
2:25
was
2:25
eight
2:25
years
2:25
old,
2:26
I
2:26
didn't
2:26
speak
2:26
any
2:27
English.
2:27
And
2:27
so
2:28
my
2:28
mom
2:28
would
2:28
take
2:28
me
2:28
to
2:29
the
2:29
library
2:29
and
2:29
we
2:29
would
2:30
get
2:30
the
2:30
maximum
2:31
number
2:31
of
2:31
books,
2:31
which
2:32
was
2:32
25
2:32
back
2:33
then.
2:33
So
2:34
I
2:34
would
2:34
get
2:34
Richard
2:34
Scarry
2:35
books
2:35
and
2:35
all
2:35
kinds
2:36
of
2:36
classic
2:37
children's
2:37
books.
2:37
And
2:38
that's
2:38
how
2:38
I
2:38
learned
2:38
English.
2:39
And
2:39
so
2:40
I
2:40
think
2:40
in
2:40
the
2:40
back
2:40
of
2:41
my
2:41
mind,
2:41
I've
2:41
always
2:41
wanted
2:42
to
2:42
write
2:42
a
2:42
children's
2:43
book.
2:43
And
2:44
when
2:44
my
2:45
oldest
2:46
child,
2:46
my
2:46
daughter,
2:47
when
2:47
she
2:47
was
2:47
3,
2:48
we
2:48
were
2:48
about
2:49
to
2:49
move
2:50
to
2:50
the
2:50
east
2:51
coast
2:51
from
2:51
California.
2:52
It
2:52
was
2:52
our
2:52
first
2:53
military
2:54
move
2:54
with
2:54
children.
2:55
And
2:56
around
2:56
that
2:56
time
2:56
she
2:57
heard
2:57
the
2:57
phrase
2:57
military
2:58
brat
2:59
and
2:59
she
2:59
said,
3:00
mommy,
3:00
I'm
3:00
not
3:00
a
3:00
rat.
3:01
So
3:01
you,
3:01
you
3:01
alluded
3:01
to
3:02
that.
3:02
But
3:02
yeah,
3:02
that's
3:03
basically
3:03
how
3:03
the
3:04
idea
3:04
came
3:04
to
3:04
me.
3:05
I
3:05
just
3:05
thought,
3:06
how
3:06
adorable.
3:06
A
3:07
military
3:07
rat.
3:08
And
3:08
I,
3:08
I
3:08
had
3:09
people
3:09
throughout
3:09
my
3:09
book
3:10
journey
3:10
try
3:10
to
3:10
convince
3:11
me
3:11
to
3:12
do
3:12
a
3:13
military
3:13
mouse
3:14
because
3:14
it
3:14
would
3:14
be
3:14
cuter.
3:15
But
3:15
I
3:15
said,
3:15
that's
3:15
not
3:16
the
3:16
same.
3:16
It's.
3:16
To
3:17
me,
3:17
it's
3:17
part
3:17
of
3:18
the
3:18
pun
3:18
is
3:18
why
3:18
it's
3:19
funny.
3:19
And
3:20
I
3:20
think
3:20
that
3:20
Maggie
3:21
is
3:21
such
3:21
a
3:21
lovable
3:22
character
3:22
that
3:23
by
3:23
the
3:23
time
3:24
you
3:24
read
3:24
the
3:24
book,
3:25
you
3:25
get
3:25
over
3:25
the
3:26
fact
3:26
that
3:26
she's
3:26
a
3:26
rat
3:26
and
3:27
she's
3:27
just
3:27
like
3:27
her
3:27
own
3:28
little
3:28
creature.
3:29
Absolutely.
3:30
And
3:30
very
3:30
cute.
3:31
Great
3:31
illustration.
3:32
Oh,
3:33
the
3:33
illustrator.
3:33
She
3:34
has
3:34
been
3:35
just
3:35
so
3:35
wonderful
3:36
to
3:36
work
3:36
with.
3:36
And
3:37
she
3:37
really
3:37
got
3:37
my
3:38
vision.
3:38
Absolutely.
3:39
No
3:39
question
3:40
about
3:40
it.
3:41
How
3:41
long
3:41
ago
3:42
Monica
3:43
was.
3:44
When
3:44
did
3:44
you,
3:45
how
3:45
long
3:45
ago
3:45
did
3:46
you
3:46
start
3:46
your
3:47
journey
3:47
into?
3:49
It
3:49
was
3:49
a
3:49
long
3:49
journey.
3:50
So
3:50
it
3:50
was
3:51
around
3:51
2017.
3:52
So
3:53
we're
3:53
in
3:53
2025
3:54
now.
3:54
It
3:54
was
3:54
in
3:54
2017
3:55
when
3:55
I
3:55
got
3:56
the
3:56
idea
3:57
and
3:57
then,
3:57
then
3:58
we
3:58
moved
3:59
to
3:59
rhode
3:59
island
4:00
in
4:01
2017.
4:02
And
4:02
so
4:02
I
4:02
got
4:03
the
4:03
idea,
4:03
wrote
4:03
it
4:04
down,
4:04
took
4:05
like
4:05
a
4:05
children's
4:05
book
4:06
class
4:06
when
4:07
I
4:07
lived
4:07
in
4:07
Rhode
4:07
island,
4:08
tried
4:08
to
4:08
write,
4:09
do
4:09
the
4:09
pictures
4:09
myself,
4:10
realized
4:11
very
4:11
quickly
4:11
that
4:11
I'm
4:11
not
4:12
a
4:12
professional
4:12
illustrator.
4:13
And
4:14
so
4:14
the
4:14
book
4:14
kept
4:15
getting
4:15
put
4:15
on
4:15
hold
4:15
because
4:16
of
4:16
the
4:16
military
4:16
lifestyle.
4:17
We
4:17
moved
4:18
a
4:18
few
4:18
times,
4:18
including
4:19
an
4:19
international
4:19
move.
4:20
We
4:20
moved
4:20
to
4:20
Spain
4:21
in
4:21
2018.
4:22
And
4:22
so
4:23
the
4:23
book,
4:23
I
4:23
say
4:24
it
4:24
took
4:24
me
4:24
six
4:25
years
4:25
to
4:25
publish
4:26
it,
4:26
but
4:27
I,
4:27
I
4:27
wasn't
4:27
working
4:28
on
4:28
it
4:28
continuously
4:29
for
4:29
six
4:29
years.
4:30
I
4:30
would
4:30
pick
4:30
it
4:30
up
4:30
and
4:30
I
4:31
would
4:31
do
4:32
some
4:32
work
4:32
and
4:32
then
4:33
get
4:33
put
4:33
back
4:33
on
4:33
the
4:33
back
4:34
burner.
4:34
But
4:34
really,
4:34
from
4:35
the
4:35
time
4:35
when
4:35
I
4:35
got
4:35
really
4:36
serious,
4:36
I
4:37
really
4:37
finalized
4:38
my
4:38
manuscript.
4:39
It
4:39
was
4:39
like
4:40
about
4:40
a
4:40
two
4:41
month
4:41
period
4:41
of
4:42
really
4:42
working
4:42
on
4:42
the
4:42
manuscript
4:43
to
4:43
get
4:43
it
4:44
to
4:44
where
4:44
it
4:44
is
4:44
now.
4:45
And
4:45
then
4:46
I
4:46
had
4:46
to
4:47
find
4:47
an
4:47
illustrator
4:48
later
4:48
on.
4:48
And
4:49
the
4:49
illustration
4:49
process
4:50
took
4:50
about
4:50
six
4:50
months,
4:51
but
4:52
I
4:52
had
4:52
to
4:53
finance
4:54
the
4:54
illustrations
4:54
and
4:55
the
4:55
printing
4:55
of
4:55
the
4:55
book.
4:56
So
4:56
then
4:56
I
4:56
ran
4:56
a
4:56
Kickstarter
4:57
and
4:57
that
4:57
took
4:58
time.
4:58
It's
4:58
a
4:59
long
4:59
game.
4:59
It's
4:59
something
5:00
that
5:00
you
5:01
have
5:01
to
5:01
be
5:01
passionate
5:02
about
5:02
your
5:03
book
5:03
and
5:03
you
5:03
have
5:03
to
5:04
keep
5:04
with
5:04
it.
5:04
It's
5:05
interesting
5:05
because
5:05
I
5:06
saw
5:06
the
5:06
Kickstarter
5:06
thing.
5:07
I
5:07
definitely
5:07
got
5:08
that
5:08
later
5:08
in
5:09
questions
5:09
for
5:09
you
5:10
about
5:10
the
5:10
Kickstarter.
5:11
It's
5:11
Interesting
5:12
about
5:12
your
5:12
journey
5:13
because.
5:13
Very
5:13
similar
5:14
for
5:14
us
5:14
as
5:15
I
5:15
actually
5:16
co
5:16
wrote
5:17
our
5:17
children's
5:17
book
5:18
with
5:18
my
5:18
oldest
5:18
granddaughter.
5:19
And
5:20
so
5:20
again,
5:21
it
5:21
all
5:21
started
5:22
out
5:22
on
5:23
us
5:23
just
5:24
having
5:24
these
5:24
adventures
5:25
together
5:25
and
5:26
there
5:26
were
5:26
so
5:26
many
5:27
that
5:27
ultimately
5:28
it
5:29
turned
5:29
into
5:30
her
5:30
saying,
5:31
papa,
5:31
we
5:32
got
5:32
to
5:32
take
5:32
these
5:33
pictures
5:33
off
5:34
of
5:34
your
5:34
iPhone,
5:35
which
5:36
were.
5:36
There
5:36
was
5:37
thousands,
5:38
and
5:38
turn
5:39
it
5:39
into
5:39
a
5:39
children's
5:40
book.
5:40
And
5:40
that's
5:40
how
5:41
that
5:41
all
5:41
started
5:42
for
5:42
us.
5:42
And
5:43
so
5:43
it's
5:44
neat
5:44
because
5:44
you've
5:44
got
5:44
this
5:45
main
5:45
character
5:45
with
5:46
Maggie
5:47
and
5:47
we've
5:47
got.
5:47
Our
5:48
main
5:48
character
5:49
is
5:50
adorable
5:50
bear
5:51
named
5:51
Caboose.
5:52
And
5:53
Yeah.
5:53
So
5:54
thank
5:54
you.
5:55
It's
5:55
great
5:56
because
5:56
I,
5:56
I'm
5:56
just
5:57
curious
5:57
too
5:58
it
5:59
when
5:59
you
5:59
started
6:00
putting
6:01
this
6:01
all
6:01
together.
6:02
I'd
6:03
love
6:03
to
6:03
talk
6:03
to
6:03
you
6:03
a
6:03
bit
6:04
about
6:04
your
6:04
publishing
6:05
approach
6:06
because
6:06
it's.
6:07
Your
6:07
publishing
6:08
approach
6:08
sounds
6:09
similar
6:09
to
6:09
ours,
6:10
but
6:10
I
6:10
always
6:11
say
6:11
to
6:11
people
6:12
there's
6:12
really
6:12
three
6:13
types
6:13
of
6:13
publishing.
6:14
There's
6:15
traditional,
6:16
there's
6:17
self
6:17
publishing,
6:18
then
6:19
there's.
6:19
What
6:19
I'm
6:19
finding
6:20
a
6:20
lot
6:20
of
6:21
people
6:21
do
6:21
is
6:22
it's
6:22
called
6:23
hybrid
6:23
publishing,
6:24
which
6:24
is
6:24
a
6:25
combination
6:25
of
6:26
traditional
6:27
and
6:28
self
6:29
publishing.
6:29
So
6:30
tell
6:30
us
6:30
your
6:30
publishing
6:31
approach.
6:32
Yeah,
6:32
so
6:32
I
6:33
am
6:33
fully
6:33
self
6:33
published.
6:34
I
6:34
did
6:34
reach
6:35
out
6:35
to
6:35
traditional
6:35
publishers
6:36
in
6:36
the
6:36
beginning
6:37
and
6:38
got
6:38
met
6:39
with
6:39
either
6:40
complete
6:40
silence
6:41
or
6:42
rejections.
6:43
And
6:43
I
6:43
got
6:43
pretty,
6:44
what
6:44
I
6:45
felt
6:45
was
6:45
pretty
6:45
far
6:46
with
6:46
a
6:47
military
6:47
specific
6:48
publisher
6:48
right
6:49
before
6:49
the
6:49
pandemic
6:49
hit.
6:50
And
6:50
then
6:51
that
6:51
was
6:51
really
6:51
exciting.
6:52
But
6:52
then
6:52
it
6:53
turns
6:53
out
6:53
they
6:53
had
6:54
just
6:54
forgotten
6:54
to
6:54
email
6:55
me
6:55
my
6:55
rejection.
6:56
So
6:56
for
6:56
months
6:57
I
6:57
was
6:57
waiting
6:57
during
6:58
the
6:58
pandemic
6:58
thinking
6:59
that
6:59
like,
6:59
today's
7:00
gonna
7:00
be
7:00
the
7:00
day.
7:00
And
7:01
then
7:01
it
7:01
was
7:01
like.
7:01
And
7:02
finally
7:02
reached
7:02
back
7:03
out
7:03
to
7:03
them
7:03
again
7:03
after
7:04
months
7:04
and
7:04
they
7:04
said,
7:04
oh,
7:05
we
7:05
sent
7:05
you
7:06
the
7:06
rejection.
7:06
Did
7:07
you
7:07
not
7:07
get
7:07
it
7:07
right?
7:08
But
7:08
it
7:08
was
7:08
thanks
7:09
to
7:09
that
7:09
publisher
7:10
really
7:10
that
7:10
the
7:11
story
7:11
is
7:11
what
7:12
it
7:12
is.
7:12
Because
7:13
they
7:13
wanted
7:13
to
7:14
see
7:14
a
7:14
second,
7:15
like
7:15
a
7:15
second
7:16
draft.
7:16
They
7:16
liked
7:16
the
7:17
idea,
7:17
they
7:17
wanted
7:17
me
7:17
to
7:18
develop
7:18
it
7:18
more.
7:19
And
7:19
it
7:19
was
7:19
that
7:20
when
7:20
I
7:20
talked
7:20
about
7:21
the
7:21
two
7:21
months
7:21
period
7:21
where
7:22
I
7:22
got
7:22
it
7:22
to
7:22
where
7:22
it
7:22
is
7:23
now.
7:23
Yes.
7:24
That
7:24
push
7:24
of
7:25
them
7:25
wanting
7:25
to
7:25
see
7:25
a
7:26
better
7:26
version
7:26
that
7:26
really
7:27
got
7:27
me
7:27
to
7:27
like
7:28
make
7:28
it
7:28
what
7:29
it
7:29
is
7:29
today.
7:29
So
7:29
I'm
7:30
grateful
7:30
that
7:30
they
7:31
ultimately
7:32
rejected
7:32
me
7:32
because
7:33
I
7:33
got
7:33
to
7:33
choose
7:34
my
7:34
own
7:34
illustrator.
7:35
And
7:35
I
7:35
think
7:36
it's
7:36
better
7:36
than
7:36
it
7:36
would
7:37
have
7:37
been
7:37
had
7:37
it
7:38
gone
7:38
with
7:38
it.
7:38
So
7:38
you
7:38
really
7:39
got
7:39
some
7:39
education
7:40
for
7:40
free.
7:40
I
7:41
did.
7:41
I.
7:41
I
7:41
did.
7:42
Fantastic.
7:43
I
7:43
have
7:44
my
7:44
own
7:44
publishing
7:44
imprint,
7:45
it's
7:45
called
7:45
Penny
7:46
Wishes
7:46
Press.
7:47
And
7:47
I
7:47
just,
7:47
I
7:48
wanted
7:48
it
7:48
something
7:48
that
7:48
wasn't
7:49
my
7:49
name.
7:49
And
7:50
I,
7:51
I
7:52
printed
7:53
with
7:53
a
7:53
company
7:54
in
7:54
the
7:54
United
7:54
States
7:55
printed
7:55
about
7:56
either
7:56
2,000
7:57
or
7:57
2,500
7:58
books,
7:58
I'm
7:58
trying
7:58
to
7:59
remember.
7:59
And
7:59
that's.
8:00
That's
8:00
the
8:00
hardcover.
8:01
That's
8:01
the
8:02
hardcover.
8:02
Correct.
8:02
And
8:03
then
8:03
the.
8:03
The
8:03
paperback
8:04
is
8:04
through
8:05
KDP
8:05
on
8:05
Amazon
8:06
and
8:06
I
8:06
recently
8:07
just
8:07
put
8:07
it
8:07
on
8:08
Ingram
8:08
Spark
8:08
as
8:09
well.
8:09
Okay.
8:10
Yes.
8:10
And
8:10
so
8:10
just
8:11
so
8:11
you
8:11
know,
8:11
for
8:12
everyone
8:12
listening
8:13
is
8:14
that.
8:15
And
8:15
it's
8:15
great
8:16
because
8:16
everybody
8:16
has
8:16
a
8:17
different
8:17
approach.
8:18
So
8:18
it's
8:18
fun
8:19
to
8:19
talk
8:19
to
8:20
you
8:20
because
8:20
your
8:20
approach
8:21
is
8:21
a
8:21
little
8:21
bit
8:21
different
8:22
from
8:22
other
8:23
people
8:23
that
8:23
I've
8:23
talked
8:24
to.
8:24
And
8:25
so
8:25
I'd
8:25
like
8:26
to
8:26
jump
8:26
into
8:26
that
8:26
a
8:26
bit
8:27
more.
8:27
In
8:27
our
8:28
case,
8:28
we.
8:29
We
8:29
did
8:29
the
8:30
same
8:30
as
8:30
you.
8:30
We
8:30
set
8:30
up
8:31
our
8:31
own
8:31
publishing
8:32
company
8:32
called
8:33
Caboose,
8:33
the
8:33
Rocky
8:34
Mountain
8:34
Bear
8:35
Publishing
8:35
Den.
8:36
Like
8:37
in
8:37
a
8:37
bear
8:37
den.
8:38
Yeah.
8:38
So
8:38
we
8:39
had
8:39
some
8:39
fun
8:39
doing
8:39
that.
8:40
And
8:41
we
8:41
just
8:42
do
8:42
a
8:42
paperback.
8:43
So
8:43
we
8:43
do
8:43
it
8:44
through
8:44
kdp,
8:45
as
8:45
you
8:45
said.
8:45
And
8:46
we
8:46
also
8:46
do
8:46
it
8:47
through
8:47
Ingham
8:47
Sparks.
8:48
We
8:48
just
8:49
haven't
8:49
got
8:49
into
8:49
the
8:50
hardcover
8:51
portion
8:51
of
8:51
it
8:52
yet.
8:52
And
8:52
there's
8:53
always
8:53
pros
8:54
and
8:54
cons
8:54
about
8:55
all
8:55
of
8:55
that.
8:56
So
8:56
I
8:57
noticed
8:58
for
8:58
you,
8:59
like
8:59
you
9:00
mentioned,
9:00
you
9:00
did
9:01
the
9:01
paperback
9:01
through
9:02
KDP
9:03
Amazon
9:03
and
9:04
now
9:04
you've
9:04
also
9:04
going
9:05
with
9:05
ingramsparks,
9:06
which
9:06
also
9:07
allows
9:07
you
9:07
to
9:07
do
9:08
a
9:08
hardcover
9:09
through
9:09
them
9:09
also.
9:10
Correct,
9:11
correct.
9:11
But
9:11
I
9:11
will
9:12
not
9:12
be
9:12
doing
9:12
a.
9:12
Hardcover
9:13
through
9:13
them
9:13
because
9:14
I'm
9:15
sure
9:15
that
9:15
the
9:15
cost.
9:16
Right.
9:17
The
9:17
cost
9:17
and
9:17
then
9:18
the
9:18
quality
9:18
is
9:18
not
9:19
as
9:19
good.
9:19
I
9:20
really
9:20
wanted.
9:21
One
9:21
thing
9:21
that
9:21
was
9:21
important
9:22
to
9:22
me
9:22
was
9:23
printed
9:23
endpapers.
9:24
I
9:24
love
9:25
when
9:25
you
9:25
open
9:25
a
9:25
book
9:26
and
9:26
I
9:26
can
9:26
show
9:27
you
9:27
on
9:27
my
9:27
hardcover,
9:28
the
9:28
printed
9:29
endpapers
9:29
look
9:29
like
9:30
this
9:30
and
9:31
you
9:31
can't
9:31
get
9:32
that
9:32
on
9:32
IngramSpark.
9:33
So
9:34
I
9:34
just,
9:34
I
9:35
think
9:35
I
9:35
sent
9:36
my
9:36
books,
9:36
my
9:36
hardcovers
9:37
to
9:37
Amazon
9:38
through
9:38
Amazon
9:39
Advantage,
9:39
which
9:40
jury's
9:41
still
9:41
out
9:41
whether
9:41
that's
9:42
been
9:42
very
9:43
benefitful
9:43
for
9:44
me.
9:44
I
9:44
think
9:44
I
9:44
do
9:44
better
9:45
selling
9:45
my
9:45
hardcovers
9:46
at
9:46
in
9:46
person
9:47
events.
9:47
That's
9:47
right.
9:48
That's.
9:48
And
9:49
I'm.
9:49
I
9:49
might
9:50
shift
9:50
towards
9:50
just
9:51
only
9:51
having
9:52
paperbacks
9:53
on
9:53
Amazon
9:53
because
9:54
it
9:54
is.
9:54
You
9:54
have
9:54
to
9:54
send
9:55
them
9:55
to
9:55
them.
9:55
You
9:55
have
9:55
to
9:55
pay
9:56
the
9:56
shipping
9:56
for
9:56
that.
9:57
I
9:57
will
9:57
say
9:57
one
9:58
thing
9:58
which
9:59
is
9:59
pretty
9:59
cool.
9:59
This
10:00
is
10:00
a
10:00
beautiful
10:00
book.
10:01
And
10:01
when
10:02
I
10:02
open
10:02
it
10:02
up
10:03
and
10:03
you.
10:03
I'm
10:04
going
10:04
to
10:04
open
10:04
it
10:04
up
10:04
to
10:05
what
10:05
like
10:05
you
10:05
did.
10:06
Look
10:06
how
10:06
beautiful
10:07
that
10:07
is
10:07
inside.
10:08
Thank
10:09
you.
10:09
Yeah,
10:09
you're
10:10
showing.
10:10
I
10:10
did
10:10
include
10:11
the
10:11
end
10:11
papers
10:11
in
10:12
the
10:12
paperback.
10:12
For
10:12
those
10:13
listening,
10:13
it's
10:14
a
10:14
gorgeous
10:14
book.
10:14
Here's
10:15
the
10:15
cool
10:15
thing
10:15
about
10:16
it.
10:16
I
10:16
live
10:16
in
10:17
Alberta,
10:17
Canada,
10:18
near
10:18
the
10:19
Rocky
10:19
Mountains.
10:20
And
10:21
guess
10:21
where
10:21
this
10:21
book
10:22
was
10:22
printed
10:23
in
10:23
Canada?
10:24
In
10:24
Alberta,
10:25
actually.
10:25
Not
10:26
not
10:26
very
10:27
far
10:27
from
10:27
my
10:27
house.
10:28
I
10:28
can
10:28
probably
10:28
drive
10:29
there
10:29
in
10:29
about
10:29
15
10:30
minutes.
10:30
That
10:31
is
10:31
the
10:31
cool
10:31
thing
10:31
about
10:32
KDP,
10:33
and
10:33
I
10:33
think
10:33
probably
10:33
Ingram
10:34
is
10:34
similar.
10:35
Although
10:35
I
10:35
found
10:35
the
10:35
Ingram
10:36
quality
10:36
is
10:37
not
10:37
quite
10:37
as
10:37
good
10:37
as
10:38
kdp.
10:38
The
10:38
colors
10:39
aren't
10:39
as
10:39
vibrant
10:39
for
10:39
some
10:40
reason.
10:40
Yeah,
10:40
you
10:40
know
10:41
what,
10:41
it's
10:41
funny
10:41
you
10:42
should
10:42
mention
10:42
that
10:42
because
10:43
somebody
10:44
said
10:44
to
10:44
me,
10:44
oh,
10:45
you've
10:45
got
10:45
to
10:45
be
10:45
on
10:46
Ingram.
10:46
They
10:47
do
10:47
a
10:47
much
10:47
better
10:48
job
10:48
of
10:48
printing.
10:49
So
10:50
of
10:50
course
10:51
I
10:51
started
10:51
with
10:51
Amazon
10:52
and
10:52
then
10:52
I
10:52
thought,
10:53
okay,
10:53
I've
10:53
already
10:54
set
10:54
up
10:54
the
10:54
account.
10:55
So
10:55
I
10:55
ordered
10:56
an
10:56
author's
10:57
copy.
10:58
When
10:58
it
10:58
arrived,
10:59
I
11:00
really
11:01
didn't
11:01
see
11:02
any
11:02
difference.
11:03
Actually,
11:03
I
11:03
was
11:04
happier
11:04
with
11:04
Amazon's
11:05
printing.
11:06
At
11:06
the
11:06
end
11:06
of
11:06
the
11:07
day.
11:07
I'm
11:07
just
11:08
saying
11:08
to
11:08
most
11:09
people,
11:09
you'll
11:09
probably
11:10
see
11:10
that
11:10
there's
11:11
not
11:11
a
11:11
heck
11:11
of
11:11
a
11:11
lot
11:12
of
11:12
difference
11:12
in
11:12
quality
11:13
between
11:14
Ingram.
11:15
Like,
11:15
we
11:15
get
11:16
so
11:16
many
11:16
compliments
11:17
on
11:17
our
11:18
book.
11:18
Quality
11:19
of
11:19
the
11:19
print.
11:20
People
11:20
really
11:20
enjoy
11:21
it.
11:21
Yeah,
11:22
I
11:22
think
11:22
the
11:22
illustrations
11:23
have
11:23
a
11:24
lot.
11:24
Like,
11:24
if
11:24
you
11:24
look
11:25
at
11:25
this
11:25
for
11:25
vivid
11:26
colors.
11:27
Yes.
11:28
When
11:28
you
11:28
think
11:29
about
11:29
that,
11:30
Amazon
11:30
does
11:30
a
11:31
pretty
11:31
good.
11:31
They're
11:32
using
11:32
local
11:33
printers
11:33
within
11:34
their
11:34
marketplaces,
11:35
so
11:35
it
11:35
could
11:36
be
11:36
different.
11:36
I'm
11:37
curious
11:38
and
11:38
I
11:38
know
11:38
you
11:38
talked
11:39
about
11:39
it
11:39
a
11:39
bit,
11:40
but
11:40
let's
11:40
just
11:42
dive
11:42
a
11:42
little
11:43
deeper
11:43
into
11:44
your
11:44
hardcover
11:45
strategy
11:47
and
11:47
your
11:48
saw
11:48
and
11:48
your
11:49
paperback
11:49
strategies.
11:50
Talk
11:50
to
11:50
us
11:50
about
11:51
the
11:51
two
11:51
different
11:51
approaches
11:52
and
11:52
why
11:53
that's
11:53
important
11:53
to
11:54
you.
11:54
My.
11:55
My
11:55
kind
11:55
of
11:55
primary
11:56
objective
11:56
with
11:56
this
11:57
book
11:57
is
11:57
to
11:57
get
11:58
a
11:58
high
11:58
quality
11:59
children's
11:59
book
12:00
about
12:00
the
12:00
military
12:01
life
12:01
experience
12:02
into
12:02
the
12:02
hands
12:02
of
12:03
military
12:04
kids.
12:04
That
12:04
is
12:05
my
12:05
number
12:05
one
12:05
goal.
12:06
And
12:06
so
12:07
I
12:07
really
12:07
wanted
12:07
the
12:08
highest
12:08
quality
12:08
book
12:09
I
12:09
could
12:09
get
12:09
and
12:10
I
12:10
wanted
12:10
it
12:11
to
12:11
be
12:11
printed
12:11
in
12:11
the
12:11
US
12:12
that
12:12
felt,
12:13
I
12:13
felt
12:13
like
12:13
with
12:13
the
12:14
fact
12:14
that
12:14
it's
12:14
about
12:14
a
12:15
US
12:15
military
12:16
family
12:17
and
12:17
we
12:17
were
12:18
a
12:18
military
12:18
family,
12:18
it
12:18
was
12:19
just
12:19
a
12:19
good
12:19
thing
12:19
to
12:19
have
12:19
it
12:20
printed
12:20
in
12:20
the
12:20
US
12:21
all
12:21
that
12:21
being
12:21
said,
12:22
it's
12:22
more
12:22
expensive
12:23
to
12:23
print
12:23
hardcovers
12:24
locally
12:24
than
12:25
it
12:25
would
12:25
be
12:25
overseas
12:26
by
12:26
quite
12:26
a
12:27
lot.
12:27
I
12:28
had
12:28
to
12:28
price
12:29
my
12:29
book
12:29
accordingly.
12:30
My
12:30
suggested
12:31
retail
12:31
price
12:31
for
12:32
My
12:32
hardcover
12:32
is
12:33
1999,
12:34
which
12:34
is
12:34
about
12:35
the
12:35
going
12:35
rate
12:35
these
12:36
days
12:36
for
12:36
a
12:36
hardcover.
12:37
I
12:37
don't
12:37
feel
12:37
like
12:37
it's
12:37
too
12:38
expensive,
12:38
but
12:39
it
12:39
does
12:39
make
12:39
it
12:40
the.
12:40
The.
12:40
There's
12:40
not
12:40
a.
12:41
There's
12:41
not
12:41
a
12:41
lot
12:41
of
12:41
money
12:41
to
12:42
be
12:42
made
12:42
in
12:42
selling
12:42
books,
12:43
I'll
12:43
tell
12:43
you
12:43
that
12:43
much.
12:44
My
12:44
strategy
12:45
with
12:45
the
12:45
hardcovers
12:46
is
12:46
I
12:46
sell
12:46
them
12:47
on
12:47
Amazon
12:48
through
12:48
Amazon
12:48
Advantage
12:49
and
12:50
I
12:50
also
12:51
sell
12:51
them
12:52
from
12:52
my
12:52
website
12:53
and
12:53
then
12:54
I
12:54
also
12:55
sell
12:55
them
12:55
at
12:56
like
12:56
school
12:57
readings
12:57
at.
12:58
I've
12:58
got.
12:58
I'VE
12:58
been
12:58
to
12:59
like
12:59
an
12:59
air
12:59
show
13:00
and
13:00
sold
13:00
on
13:00
base
13:01
before,
13:01
so
13:01
things
13:01
like
13:02
that.
13:02
And
13:03
that's
13:03
honestly.
13:04
It's
13:04
what
13:04
I
13:04
put
13:04
into
13:05
it,
13:05
which
13:05
is
13:05
hard
13:06
because
13:06
if
13:06
I'm.
13:07
I
13:07
teach
13:07
part
13:08
time
13:08
at
13:08
a
13:08
law
13:09
school
13:09
and
13:09
if
13:09
I'm
13:10
during
13:10
my
13:10
semester
13:11
and
13:11
I'm
13:11
not
13:12
putting
13:12
all
13:12
the
13:12
time
13:12
in
13:12
marketing
13:13
and
13:13
pushing
13:13
my
13:13
book,
13:14
I
13:14
see
13:14
it,
13:14
I
13:14
see
13:14
it
13:15
in
13:15
my
13:15
sales.
13:15
It's
13:16
really.
13:16
I'm
13:16
a
13:16
one
13:17
person
13:17
operation.
13:18
It
13:18
hurts.
13:18
My
13:19
paperbacks
13:19
are
13:20
more
13:20
passive
13:20
income.
13:21
It's
13:21
just
13:21
set
13:21
up
13:21
on
13:22
KDP
13:22
and
13:22
Ingram.
13:23
But
13:24
I'm
13:24
not
13:24
running
13:24
ads
13:25
right
13:25
now.
13:25
So
13:26
unless
13:26
you're
13:26
seeing
13:27
my
13:28
book
13:28
on
13:28
Instagram,
13:29
which
13:29
I
13:29
do
13:29
have
13:30
a
13:30
presence
13:30
there,
13:31
or
13:31
hearing
13:32
about
13:32
it,
13:32
word
13:32
of
13:33
mouth,
13:33
you're.
13:33
You
13:33
might
13:34
not
13:34
see
13:34
it.
13:34
It
13:34
gets
13:34
lost.
13:35
So
13:35
again,
13:36
it's,
13:36
it
13:37
is
13:37
a
13:37
tough
13:37
thing
13:38
and
13:38
you
13:38
have
13:38
to
13:38
work
13:38
at
13:38
it
13:39
constantly.
13:39
Like,
13:39
I
13:40
don't.
13:40
I
13:40
had
13:40
someone
13:40
the
13:41
other
13:41
day
13:41
say,
13:42
oh,
13:42
congrats
13:42
on
13:42
all
13:43
your
13:43
success
13:43
with
13:43
your
13:43
book.
13:44
And
13:44
I
13:44
was
13:44
thinking,
13:45
yeah,
13:45
it's
13:46
been
13:46
successful,
13:46
it's
13:46
gotten
13:47
awards
13:47
and
13:47
it's
13:48
a
13:48
good
13:48
book.
13:48
And
13:48
I,
13:48
I'm
13:49
proud
13:49
of
13:49
it.
13:49
So
13:49
proud
13:50
of
13:50
it.
13:50
It's
13:50
like
13:50
my
13:50
fourth
13:50
child.
13:51
But
13:52
I,
13:52
I'm
13:52
not
13:52
making
13:53
a
13:53
ton
13:53
of
13:53
money
13:53
from
13:53
it.
13:54
Right.
13:54
I
13:54
hope
13:54
people
13:54
understand
13:55
that.
13:55
It's
13:55
not
13:55
like
13:56
I'm.
13:56
If
13:57
I
13:57
give
13:57
off
13:57
that
13:57
impression,
13:58
I
13:58
don't
13:58
want
13:58
people
13:58
to
13:58
think
13:59
that
13:59
because
13:59
it's
13:59
a
14:00
tough.
14:00
You
14:00
and
14:00
I
14:01
have
14:01
met
14:01
through
14:02
Darcy
14:02
Guyon.
14:03
Yes.
14:03
And
14:04
so
14:04
it's
14:04
interesting
14:05
because
14:05
he.
14:06
That's
14:06
one
14:06
of
14:07
the
14:07
things
14:07
he
14:07
said
14:07
to
14:08
me.
14:08
He
14:08
said
14:09
when
14:09
he
14:09
does
14:09
these
14:10
school
14:10
readings,
14:11
everybody,
14:12
all
14:12
the
14:12
kids
14:12
thinks
14:13
that
14:13
he's
14:14
a
14:14
multimillionaire
14:15
because
14:16
he's
14:16
a.
14:16
He's
14:16
the
14:17
children's
14:17
book
14:17
author.
14:18
And,
14:19
and
14:19
for
14:19
most
14:19
of
14:20
us
14:20
who
14:20
are
14:20
children's
14:21
book
14:21
authors,
14:21
we
14:21
know
14:22
that's
14:22
the
14:22
furthest
14:22
thing
14:23
from
14:23
the
14:23
truth.
14:23
So.
14:24
So
14:24
the
14:24
one
14:24
thing
14:24
I
14:25
noticed
14:25
and,
14:26
and
14:26
I
14:26
want
14:26
to
14:26
get
14:26
it.
14:27
I
14:27
want
14:27
to
14:27
talk
14:27
to
14:27
your.
14:28
I've
14:28
got
14:28
your
14:28
website
14:29
up
14:29
on
14:29
my
14:29
iPad,
14:30
but
14:30
I
14:30
want
14:30
to
14:31
talk
14:31
to
14:31
you
14:31
a
14:31
little
14:31
bit.
14:32
I
14:32
noticed
14:33
and
14:33
maybe
14:34
I
14:34
didn't
14:34
look
14:35
thorough
14:35
enough,
14:35
but
14:36
maybe
14:36
you
14:36
can
14:36
tell
14:36
me.
14:37
I
14:37
noticed
14:37
you
14:37
don't
14:37
have
14:38
a
14:38
link
14:38
to
14:38
your
14:39
paperback
14:40
through
14:40
your
14:40
website.
14:41
Yeah,
14:42
I
14:42
guess
14:42
that's
14:43
something
14:43
I
14:43
could
14:43
add
14:43
and
14:44
I
14:44
should
14:44
add
14:44
eventually.
14:45
Uh,
14:46
I
14:46
think
14:46
my
14:47
thought
14:47
with
14:47
that,
14:48
I
14:48
don't
14:48
know.
14:48
I.
14:49
I
14:49
think
14:49
I
14:50
see
14:50
my
14:50
website
14:51
as
14:51
an
14:51
outlet
14:51
for
14:52
buying
14:52
more
14:52
of
14:52
the
14:53
hardcover.
14:54
That's
14:54
not
14:54
a
14:54
bad
14:55
observation.
14:55
I
14:55
mean,
14:56
I
14:56
should.
14:56
Should
14:56
probably
14:57
have
14:57
a
14:57
whole
14:58
page
14:58
that
14:59
has
14:59
my
15:00
stockist
15:00
on
15:00
where
15:01
you
15:01
can
15:01
buy
15:01
the
15:01
book.
15:01
Something
15:02
I've
15:02
been
15:02
thinking
15:02
about.
15:03
I,
15:03
I,
15:03
I
15:03
was
15:04
only
15:04
curious
15:04
because
15:05
I,
15:05
I
15:05
was
15:05
trying
15:06
to
15:06
figure
15:06
out
15:06
is
15:06
this
15:07
actually
15:07
if,
15:08
if
15:08
it's
15:08
your
15:08
strategy.
15:09
I
15:09
just
15:09
want
15:10
aspiring
15:10
authors
15:11
to
15:11
know
15:11
or
15:12
anybody
15:12
else
15:12
who's
15:13
published
15:13
a
15:14
children's
15:14
book
15:14
is
15:15
everybody
15:15
has
15:16
a
15:16
different
15:16
strategy.
15:17
So
15:17
that's
15:17
what
15:17
I'm
15:18
curious
15:18
about
15:19
is
15:19
was
15:19
that
15:19
a
15:20
specific
15:20
strategy
15:21
you
15:21
had
15:21
in
15:22
mind
15:22
and
15:22
how
15:22
was
15:23
it
15:23
working
15:23
for
15:23
you?
15:24
Yeah,
15:24
the
15:25
last
15:25
thing
15:25
I
15:25
would
15:25
want
15:26
is
15:26
somebody
15:26
to
15:26
go
15:27
to
15:27
my
15:27
website,
15:28
click
15:28
on
15:28
Amazon
15:28
and
15:29
order
15:29
my
15:29
hardcover
15:30
from
15:30
Amazon
15:30
because
15:31
then
15:31
I'm
15:32
making
15:33
less
15:33
money
15:33
than
15:33
if
15:33
they
15:34
order
15:34
it
15:34
directly
15:34
from
15:35
me.
15:35
Okay.
15:36
I
15:36
shouldn't
15:36
say
15:36
it's
15:36
the
15:36
last
15:36
thing.
15:37
If
15:37
someone
15:37
was
15:37
ordering
15:37
my
15:38
book,
15:38
I'm
15:38
happy
15:38
with
15:38
however
15:39
they
15:39
order
15:39
it.
15:39
Honestly.
15:40
I'm
15:40
just
15:40
saying
15:41
that.
15:41
My
15:42
thought,
15:42
I
15:42
think
15:42
was
15:43
that
15:44
the,
15:45
my
15:45
website
15:45
is
15:46
the
15:46
place
15:46
to
15:46
get
15:47
signed
15:47
hardcovers.
15:47
That
15:48
is
15:48
the
15:48
only
15:48
place
15:49
other
15:49
than
15:49
I
15:49
also
15:49
sell
15:50
on
15:50
spousely,
15:51
which
15:51
is
15:52
like
15:52
an
15:52
Etsy
15:52
but
15:53
for
15:53
military
15:53
first
15:54
responder
15:54
families.
15:55
And
15:55
I
15:55
also
15:55
sell
15:56
my
15:56
books
15:56
through
15:56
them.
15:57
Maybe
15:57
just
15:58
talk
15:58
a
15:58
little
15:58
bit
15:58
about
15:59
spousely.
16:00
I'm
16:00
actually
16:01
interviewing
16:02
another
16:02
author,
16:03
but
16:03
not
16:03
till
16:03
April
16:04
and
16:05
she's
16:05
published
16:06
through
16:06
Spousely.
16:07
And
16:08
they're
16:08
not
16:08
actually,
16:08
they
16:09
don't
16:09
published,
16:10
they're
16:10
not
16:10
like
16:10
a
16:10
publisher.
16:10
They
16:11
are,
16:11
it's
16:12
like
16:12
an
16:12
online
16:12
marketplace
16:13
where
16:13
military
16:14
connected
16:15
or
16:15
first
16:15
responder
16:16
connected
16:17
people
16:17
can
16:18
sell
16:18
their
16:18
wares.
16:19
So
16:19
it
16:19
could
16:19
be
16:20
their
16:20
books,
16:21
their
16:21
products,
16:21
their
16:21
shirts,
16:22
whatever
16:22
they
16:22
make.
16:23
So
16:23
in
16:23
that
16:24
sense
16:24
it's
16:24
similar
16:24
to
16:24
Etsy.
16:25
And
16:25
so
16:26
you
16:26
have
16:26
your
16:26
own
16:26
storefront
16:27
on
16:28
their
16:28
website.
16:28
They
16:28
receive
16:29
a
16:29
small
16:29
commission
16:30
from
16:30
purchases.
16:31
But
16:31
it's
16:31
really,
16:32
it's
16:32
a
16:32
good
16:33
deal
16:33
for
16:33
the
16:33
people
16:33
who
16:34
are
16:34
selling.
16:34
Like
16:34
they
16:34
don't
16:35
have
16:35
to,
16:35
you
16:35
don't
16:35
have
16:35
to
16:35
pay
16:35
a
16:36
ton
16:36
to,
16:36
to
16:36
sell.
16:37
Yes,
16:38
falsely.
16:38
But
16:38
then
16:38
you're
16:38
tapping
16:39
into
16:39
that
16:39
network.
16:40
Theoretically.
16:40
That's
16:41
nice.
16:41
That's
16:41
real.
16:41
That's,
16:42
that's
16:42
fantastic.
16:43
And
16:43
I
16:43
did
16:44
have
16:44
a
16:44
look
16:44
at
16:44
it.
16:45
I,
16:45
I
16:45
love
16:45
your
16:46
website.
16:47
It's
16:47
really
16:48
cool.
16:48
And
16:48
so
16:49
it's
16:50
almost
16:50
like,
16:51
how
16:51
do
16:51
I
16:51
put
16:51
it?
16:52
I
16:52
know
16:53
you,
16:53
your
16:53
website
16:54
is
16:54
your
16:54
name
16:55
and
16:56
you've
16:56
got
16:56
of
16:57
course,
16:57
Maggie
16:57
the
16:58
Military
16:58
Rat.
16:59
And,
16:59
and
16:59
the
16:59
neat
17:00
thing
17:00
about
17:00
it
17:00
is
17:00
there's
17:01
lots
17:02
of
17:03
artwork
17:03
that
17:04
was
17:05
inspired
17:05
through
17:05
the
17:06
book.
17:06
Correct.
17:06
That
17:07
has
17:07
gone
17:07
into
17:07
your
17:08
website.
17:08
What
17:09
do
17:09
you
17:09
mean?
17:10
Like
17:10
you're
17:10
using
17:11
some
17:11
of
17:11
the
17:11
graphics
17:12
from
17:12
your
17:12
book
17:12
in
17:13
the.
17:13
Oh,
17:13
yes,
17:13
yes,
17:14
that's
17:14
right.
17:15
Okay.
17:15
And
17:16
I
17:16
just
17:16
tell
17:16
people
17:17
that
17:17
because
17:18
I'm
17:18
curious,
17:19
did
17:19
you
17:19
launch
17:20
your
17:20
website
17:21
first
17:21
or
17:21
publish
17:22
Your
17:22
book
17:22
first?
17:23
Yeah.
17:24
So
17:24
I
17:24
actually
17:25
had
17:25
my
17:25
website
17:26
made
17:26
for
17:27
me
17:27
by
17:27
a
17:28
friend
17:28
who
17:28
I
17:29
paid
17:29
to
17:29
make
17:29
it.
17:29
She
17:29
is
17:30
a
17:30
professional
17:30
website
17:31
website
17:31
designer
17:32
and
17:33
I
17:33
love
17:34
her
17:34
style
17:34
and
17:35
wanted
17:35
to
17:36
support
17:36
her
17:36
by
17:37
hiring
17:37
her.
17:38
She
17:38
did
17:38
a
17:38
fantastic
17:39
job,
17:39
I
17:40
think.
17:40
So
17:40
I
17:40
definitely
17:41
had
17:41
the
17:41
book
17:41
first
17:41
and
17:42
then
17:42
the
17:42
website
17:42
to
17:43
answer
17:43
your
17:43
question.
17:43
But
17:44
I.
17:44
I
17:45
really
17:45
was
17:46
torn
17:46
on
17:46
whether
17:47
I
17:47
should
17:47
name
17:47
it
17:48
after
17:48
my
17:48
book
17:49
and
17:49
make
17:49
it
17:49
more
17:50
like
17:50
a
17:50
Maggie
17:50
the
17:50
Military
17:51
Rat
17:51
site
17:52
or
17:52
if
17:53
it
17:53
should
17:53
be
17:53
my
17:53
name
17:54
because
17:54
I
17:54
do
17:54
have
17:55
kind
17:55
of
17:55
an
17:55
unusual
17:56
name.
17:56
It's
17:57
just
17:57
long.
17:57
I
17:57
have.
17:58
My
17:58
middle
17:58
name
17:58
is
17:59
Voiku
17:59
and
18:00
a
18:00
lot
18:00
of
18:00
people
18:00
don't
18:00
know
18:00
how
18:00
to
18:00
pronounce
18:01
that.
18:01
But
18:02
I
18:02
also
18:03
wanted
18:03
a
18:03
professional
18:04
author
18:04
website.
18:05
I
18:05
think
18:05
that's
18:05
important.
18:06
So
18:07
I
18:07
decided
18:08
in
18:08
the
18:08
end
18:08
to
18:09
focus
18:09
on
18:09
making
18:09
it
18:10
more
18:10
of
18:10
an
18:10
author
18:10
website
18:11
where
18:11
I
18:11
also
18:12
sell
18:12
my
18:12
books
18:12
instead
18:13
of
18:13
just
18:13
making
18:13
it
18:14
a
18:14
book
18:14
website.
18:15
I
18:15
figured
18:16
if
18:16
I
18:16
ever
18:16
write
18:16
more
18:17
books
18:17
down
18:17
the
18:17
road,
18:17
I
18:18
can
18:18
just
18:18
add
18:18
them
18:18
to
18:18
the
18:19
website.
18:19
But
18:20
if
18:20
I
18:21
just
18:21
about
18:21
my
18:21
book,
18:21
then
18:22
I
18:22
would
18:22
have
18:22
to
18:22
make
18:22
another
18:23
website
18:23
if
18:23
I
18:23
wrote
18:23
a
18:24
different
18:24
book
18:24
or
18:25
not.
18:25
Exactly.
18:26
And
18:26
you
18:26
know
18:26
what,
18:27
I
18:27
always
18:28
talk
18:28
to
18:28
people
18:28
about
18:29
that
18:29
because
18:29
I
18:30
seen
18:31
most
18:32
children's
18:32
book
18:33
authors
18:34
definitely
18:34
do
18:34
it
18:35
with
18:35
their
18:35
name
18:36
or
18:36
a
18:36
variation
18:38
and
18:38
I
18:38
understand
18:39
exactly
18:39
why
18:39
they're
18:40
doing
18:40
that.
18:41
In
18:41
my
18:41
case,
18:42
I
18:42
actually
18:43
have
18:44
myself
18:45
and
18:45
five
18:46
other
18:46
co
18:46
authors.
18:47
Oh.
18:47
And
18:48
they're
18:49
my
18:49
grandchildren.
18:50
Okay,
18:50
got
18:50
it.
18:51
Okay.
18:51
I
18:51
remember
18:51
that.
18:52
That
18:52
would
18:52
be
18:52
far
18:53
too
18:53
many.
18:54
Understood.
18:54
Yeah,
18:55
yeah,
18:55
yeah,
18:55
yeah.
18:56
So
18:56
the
18:56
pot.
18:57
The
18:57
positive
18:57
thing
18:57
for
18:58
us
18:58
is
18:58
that
18:59
when
18:59
we
18:59
wrote
18:59
our
19:00
book,
19:00
we
19:00
called
19:00
it
19:00
the
19:01
Adventures
19:01
of
19:01
Caboose
19:02
the
19:02
Rocky
19:02
Mountain
19:03
Bear.
19:03
And
19:04
even
19:04
the
19:04
way
19:05
the
19:05
first
19:05
book
19:05
ends,
19:06
it
19:07
talks
19:07
about
19:07
all
19:08
these
19:08
adventures
19:09
that
19:09
Caboose
19:10
is
19:10
going
19:10
to
19:10
go
19:10
through
19:11
over
19:11
the
19:12
months
19:12
and
19:12
years
19:13
that
19:13
follow.
19:14
That
19:14
was
19:14
our
19:14
approach.
19:15
So
19:15
I'm.
19:16
When
19:16
I
19:16
talk
19:16
to
19:17
the
19:17
audience,
19:17
I'm
19:17
just
19:17
trying
19:18
to
19:18
let
19:18
them
19:18
know
19:19
you
19:19
could.
19:19
You
19:20
have
19:20
to
19:20
think
19:20
about
19:21
what's
19:21
your
19:22
going
19:22
to
19:22
do
19:22
with
19:23
your
19:23
website,
19:24
what
19:24
you
19:24
as
19:25
a
19:25
children's
19:25
book
19:26
author
19:26
are
19:26
going
19:26
to
19:26
do
19:27
and
19:27
then
19:28
figure
19:28
out
19:28
your
19:29
strategy
19:29
from
19:30
there.
19:30
So
19:30
in
19:30
your
19:30
case,
19:31
you
19:31
have
19:32
other
19:32
stories
19:32
in
19:33
you.
19:33
I'm
19:34
actually
19:34
writing
19:34
book
19:34
two
19:35
in
19:35
the
19:35
Maggie
19:35
series
19:36
right
19:36
now.
19:36
And
19:37
in
19:37
some
19:37
sense
19:37
maybe
19:37
I
19:38
should
19:38
have
19:38
gone
19:38
with
19:38
the
19:38
name
19:39
Maggie
19:39
the
19:39
Military
19:40
Rat
19:40
because
19:40
I
19:40
think
19:41
there
19:41
will
19:41
be
19:41
three
19:41
books
19:42
in
19:42
the
19:42
series
19:42
and
19:42
I'll
19:43
probably
19:43
write
19:44
those
19:44
before
19:44
I
19:44
write
19:44
anything
19:45
else.
19:45
But
19:46
what
19:46
I've
19:47
actually
19:47
done
19:47
is
19:47
I've
19:48
bought
19:48
the
19:48
URL
19:49
maggie
19:49
the
19:49
militaryrat.com
19:50
and
19:51
it
19:51
just
19:51
redirects
19:51
you
19:52
to
19:52
my
19:52
website.
19:52
So
19:52
if
19:53
somebody
19:53
does
19:53
type
19:54
that
19:54
in,
19:54
it'll
19:55
still
19:55
take
19:55
you
19:55
to
19:55
my
19:56
website.
19:56
And
19:57
it's
19:57
interesting
19:57
you
19:57
should
19:58
say
19:58
that
19:58
because
19:58
that's
19:59
what
19:59
I
19:59
did
19:59
with.
20:00
Even
20:00
though
20:01
our
20:01
primary
20:02
site
20:02
is
20:03
Caboose
20:03
the
20:03
Rocky
20:04
Mountain
20:04
Bear,
20:05
you'll
20:05
find
20:06
the
20:06
Adventures
20:07
in
20:07
the
20:08
Heart
20:08
of
20:08
Children's
20:09
Book
20:09
Authors.
20:10
We
20:10
actually
20:11
have
20:11
our
20:11
podcast
20:12
Home
20:12
is
20:13
on
20:13
there.
20:13
But
20:14
if
20:14
you
20:14
typed
20:14
in
20:15
Adventures
20:15
in
20:15
the
20:16
heart
20:16
of
20:16
children's
20:17
bookauthors.com
20:19
it's
20:19
just
20:19
there.
20:20
Yeah.
20:20
It
20:20
just
20:20
redirects
20:21
you
20:21
so.
20:22
Exactly.
20:22
Thank
20:23
God
20:23
for
20:23
technology
20:24
nowadays.
20:25
Right?
20:25
Right.
20:25
Yeah.
20:26
At
20:26
least
20:26
there's
20:26
that
20:27
functionality.
20:27
And
20:28
what's
20:28
interesting
20:28
you
20:29
should
20:29
say
20:29
that
20:29
because
20:29
you
20:30
were
20:30
talking
20:30
about
20:30
you
20:31
have
20:31
probably
20:33
at
20:33
least
20:33
three
20:34
Maggie
20:35
the
20:35
Military
20:35
Rat
20:36
books
20:36
in
20:36
you.
20:37
Yeah.
20:38
And
20:38
maybe
20:39
more
20:39
that
20:39
may
20:39
spin
20:40
off,
20:40
but
20:40
you
20:41
never
20:41
know.
20:41
Grace
20:42
might
20:42
have
20:42
her
20:42
own
20:43
little
20:43
book
20:43
or
20:44
who
20:44
knows?
20:45
Right.
20:45
So
20:45
you
20:45
do
20:46
have
20:46
that
20:46
flexibility.
20:47
Because
20:47
I
20:47
was
20:47
talking
20:48
to
20:48
Darcy
20:49
Gyant
20:49
and
20:50
he's
20:50
about
20:50
to
20:50
launch
20:51
his
20:51
fourth
20:51
book.
20:52
The
20:52
first
20:53
three
20:53
books
20:53
he
20:53
wrote,
20:54
children's
20:55
books
20:55
that
20:55
he
20:55
wrote
20:56
are
20:56
a
20:56
series.
20:57
And
20:58
now
20:58
his
20:58
fourth
20:59
book
20:59
is
20:59
going
20:59
to
20:59
be.
21:00
It's
21:01
totally
21:01
separate
21:02
from
21:02
his
21:02
original
21:03
series.
21:04
So
21:04
I
21:04
can
21:04
see
21:05
why
21:05
people
21:05
might
21:06
have
21:06
that
21:06
attraction
21:07
to
21:07
keep
21:08
it
21:08
in
21:08
their
21:08
children's
21:09
book
21:09
author's
21:10
name.
21:10
Yeah,
21:11
you
21:11
figure
21:11
your
21:11
name
21:12
doesn't
21:12
change.
21:12
Usually
21:13
with
21:13
your
21:14
book
21:14
coming
21:15
first.
21:16
How
21:17
did.
21:17
How
21:18
did
21:18
you
21:19
actually
21:20
work
21:20
the
21:20
launch
21:21
of
21:21
your
21:21
website?
21:22
Like,
21:22
how
21:22
far
21:23
behind
21:24
were
21:24
you
21:25
when
21:25
your
21:25
website
21:26
came
21:26
to
21:27
life?
21:27
So
21:28
my
21:28
book,
21:29
I
21:29
ran
21:29
a
21:29
Kickstarter
21:30
for
21:30
my.
21:30
So
21:31
the
21:31
kind
21:31
of.
21:31
The
21:31
first
21:32
thing
21:32
that
21:32
I
21:32
did
21:32
that
21:33
was
21:33
like
21:33
public
21:33
facing
21:34
was
21:34
my
21:34
Instagram.
21:35
I
21:36
started
21:36
an
21:36
Instagram
21:37
Maggie
21:37
the
21:37
Military
21:38
Rat.
21:38
And
21:39
I
21:39
started
21:39
posting
21:40
and
21:40
I
21:40
would
21:40
literally
21:41
post
21:41
like
21:41
picture
21:42
of
21:42
my
21:42
desk
21:42
and
21:42
say
21:43
I'm
21:43
working
21:43
on
21:44
this
21:44
book.
21:45
Or
21:45
I
21:45
would
21:45
post
21:46
a
21:46
picture
21:46
of
21:46
me
21:46
and
21:47
my
21:47
illustrator
21:47
that
21:47
we
21:47
were
21:48
like
21:48
meeting
21:48
about
21:49
the
21:49
book
21:49
and
21:49
just
21:50
try
21:50
to
21:50
get
21:50
excitement
21:51
for.
21:52
For
21:52
the
21:52
book.
21:53
So
21:53
I
21:53
did
21:53
that.
21:54
I'd
21:54
say
21:54
I
21:54
got
21:54
serious
21:55
about
21:55
posting
21:56
on
21:56
Instagram
21:56
maybe
21:57
in
21:57
late
21:58
2020.
21:59
And
22:00
then
22:00
in
22:00
mid,
22:01
like
22:01
in
22:02
July
22:02
2023
22:03
is
22:03
when
22:03
I
22:03
ran
22:03
my
22:03
Kickstarter.
22:04
And
22:05
by
22:05
that
22:05
point
22:05
I
22:05
think
22:05
I
22:06
had
22:06
about
22:06
500
22:07
followers
22:07
or
22:07
something.
22:08
And
22:08
I
22:08
was
22:08
trying
22:09
to
22:09
raise
22:09
10,
22:10
000.
22:10
In
22:10
the
22:10
end,
22:10
I
22:11
raised
22:11
$17,000.
22:13
But
22:13
that
22:13
was
22:13
all
22:14
via
22:15
social
22:15
media.
22:16
I
22:16
had
22:16
a
22:16
Facebook
22:16
page
22:17
too.
22:17
So
22:17
anytime
22:18
I
22:18
post
22:18
on
22:18
Instagram,
22:19
it
22:19
auto
22:19
posts
22:19
to
22:20
Facebook.
22:20
So
22:21
I
22:21
have
22:21
some
22:21
followers
22:22
on
22:22
Facebook
22:22
as
22:23
well.
22:23
And
22:24
that
22:24
was
22:24
my
22:24
strategy
22:25
for
22:25
quite
22:26
a
22:26
while.
22:26
I
22:26
think
22:27
my
22:27
website,
22:28
my
22:28
first
22:28
website
22:28
I
22:29
made
22:29
on
22:29
Wix,
22:30
it
22:30
was
22:30
a
22:30
free
22:31
site
22:31
that
22:31
I
22:32
made
22:32
myself.
22:32
And
22:32
I
22:33
think
22:33
I
22:35
had
22:35
it
22:36
launch
22:36
around
22:37
the
22:37
time
22:38
my
22:39
book
22:39
was
22:39
coming
22:39
out
22:40
or
22:40
maybe
22:40
a
22:40
month
22:41
before.
22:41
I
22:41
had
22:41
already
22:42
run
22:42
a
22:42
Kickstarter
22:43
and
22:44
I
22:44
think
22:45
that
22:45
I
22:45
was.
22:46
The
22:46
books
22:46
were
22:46
being
22:47
printed
22:47
when
22:47
I
22:48
worked
22:48
on
22:48
the
22:48
website.
22:49
Okay.
22:49
And
22:50
the
22:50
website
22:50
said,
22:50
like,
22:51
coming
22:51
soon.
22:52
And
22:52
then
22:52
it
22:52
had
22:52
the
22:52
link
22:53
to
22:53
the
22:53
Kickstarter
22:53
so
22:53
you
22:53
can
22:54
click
22:54
on
22:54
the
22:54
link
22:54
and
22:54
read
22:55
about
22:55
my
22:55
story.
22:56
So
22:56
the.
22:56
The
22:56
nice
22:57
thing
22:57
about
22:57
Kickstarter
22:58
is
22:58
it's
22:58
a
22:58
website
22:59
where
22:59
you
22:59
tell
22:59
the
23:00
story
23:00
of
23:00
whatever
23:01
you're
23:01
making.
23:01
And
23:02
so
23:02
that
23:02
served
23:03
almost
23:03
like
23:03
a
23:03
website
23:03
for
23:04
a
23:04
while
23:04
until
23:05
my
23:05
WIX
23:06
website
23:06
was
23:06
up
23:06
and
23:06
running.
23:07
Okay.
23:07
I
23:08
don't
23:08
know
23:08
how
23:08
many
23:08
people
23:09
discover
23:09
me
23:09
by
23:10
my
23:10
website.
23:10
It's
23:11
probably
23:11
not
23:11
that
23:11
many.
23:12
Honest.
23:12
It's.
23:12
It's
23:13
hard
23:13
with
23:13
the
23:14
way
23:14
the
23:14
algorithms
23:15
work
23:15
and
23:16
search
23:16
results,
23:17
and
23:18
I
23:18
feel
23:18
like
23:18
I
23:18
could
23:19
probably
23:19
spend
23:19
a
23:19
lifetime
23:20
trying
23:20
to
23:20
figure
23:20
out
23:21
how
23:21
to
23:21
get
23:21
to
23:22
the
23:22
top
23:22
of
23:22
the
23:22
search
23:23
page.
23:23
I
23:24
with
23:24
you.
23:25
After
23:25
we
23:25
launched
23:26
our
23:26
book,
23:26
they
23:26
said,
23:27
oh,
23:28
where's
23:28
your
23:28
home?
23:29
And
23:29
I
23:29
said,
23:29
what
23:30
do
23:30
you
23:30
mean,
23:30
home?
23:30
And
23:30
they
23:31
said,
23:31
where's
23:31
your
23:31
website?
23:32
And
23:33
I
23:33
just
23:34
had
23:34
never
23:34
thought
23:34
about
23:35
that.
23:35
I
23:35
was
23:35
so
23:35
excited
23:36
with
23:36
my
23:36
granddaughter,
23:37
with
23:38
us
23:38
just
23:38
bringing
23:39
the
23:39
book
23:40
to
23:40
life
23:40
and
23:41
then
23:41
finding
23:41
out,
23:42
oh,
23:42
maybe
23:42
you
23:42
should
23:43
have
23:43
a
23:43
website.
23:43
The
23:43
why.
23:44
The
23:44
reason
23:44
I
23:45
talked
23:45
to
23:45
you
23:45
about
23:46
Maggie
23:46
the
23:46
military
23:47
rat,
23:47
the
23:48
graphics
23:49
was
23:49
that
23:50
the
23:50
positive
23:50
thing
23:51
for
23:51
us
23:51
is
23:51
we
23:51
had
23:52
all
23:52
these
23:52
beautiful
23:53
graphics,
23:54
which
23:55
when
23:55
we
23:55
went
23:56
to
23:56
website
23:56
development,
23:57
we
23:57
were
23:57
able
23:58
to
23:58
incorporate,
23:59
and
23:59
it
23:59
just
23:59
made
24:00
for
24:00
us
24:01
a
24:01
much
24:01
nicer
24:02
website.
24:02
Otherwise,
24:03
I'm
24:03
not
24:03
sure.
24:04
I'm
24:04
not
24:04
sure
24:05
what
24:05
it
24:05
would
24:05
have
24:05
looked
24:06
like.
24:06
I
24:06
just
24:07
didn't
24:07
have
24:07
that
24:07
kind
24:07
of
24:08
imagination
24:08
without
24:09
the
24:09
graphics.
24:10
So
24:10
it
24:10
was
24:10
cool
24:10
to
24:10
do
24:10
it
24:11
that
24:11
way.
24:12
Don't
24:12
you
24:12
find
24:12
that
24:13
being
24:13
a
24:13
children's
24:14
book
24:14
publisher
24:14
is
24:15
if
24:15
you
24:15
give
24:15
a
24:15
mouse
24:15
a
24:16
cookie,
24:16
it's
24:16
like
24:17
you
24:17
do
24:17
one
24:17
thing
24:18
and
24:18
then
24:18
you
24:18
realize,
24:18
oh,
24:18
now
24:19
I
24:19
have
24:19
to
24:19
do
24:19
this
24:19
other
24:19
thing,
24:19
and
24:20
that
24:20
leads
24:20
to
24:20
something
24:20
else.
24:21
And
24:21
it's.
24:21
There's
24:21
just
24:22
always
24:22
more
24:22
that
24:22
you
24:23
need
24:23
to
24:23
do.
24:23
It's
24:24
continuous
24:25
on
24:25
my
24:25
iPhone
24:26
and
24:26
I
24:26
just
24:26
put
24:27
in
24:27
improvements
24:28
for
24:29
website.
24:29
And
24:29
then
24:30
I
24:31
keep
24:31
it
24:31
like
24:31
a
24:31
shopping
24:32
list,
24:32
like
24:32
you're
24:32
going
24:32
to
24:33
the
24:33
grocery
24:33
store.
24:34
And
24:34
so
24:35
just
24:35
in
24:36
January,
24:36
I
24:37
had
24:37
six
24:37
items.
24:38
They
24:38
weren't
24:38
huge,
24:39
but
24:39
I
24:39
just
24:40
felt
24:40
we
24:41
needed
24:41
to
24:41
make
24:41
the
24:41
changes.
24:42
So
24:42
that's
24:42
what
24:42
we
24:43
did.
24:44
Do
24:44
you
24:44
do
24:45
your
24:45
website
24:45
yourself
24:46
then?
24:46
No,
24:47
actually,
24:47
I
24:48
don't.
24:48
I'm
24:48
very
24:49
fortunate.
24:49
I
24:49
have
24:49
a.
24:50
The
24:50
person
24:51
who
24:51
is
24:52
actually
24:52
our
24:52
book
24:53
formatter
24:54
is
24:54
also
24:55
our
24:55
graphic
24:56
art.
24:57
He's
24:57
a
24:57
graphic
24:58
artist
24:58
and.
24:59
But
24:59
he's
24:59
not
24:59
our
25:00
illustrator
25:00
and
25:00
he
25:01
does
25:01
website
25:02
design.
25:03
So
25:03
I've
25:03
been
25:03
working
25:04
with
25:04
him
25:04
for
25:05
eight
25:05
years.
25:06
But
25:06
I'd
25:06
written
25:06
a
25:06
couple
25:07
of
25:07
business
25:07
books
25:08
prior
25:08
to
25:09
self
25:10
published
25:10
business
25:11
books.
25:11
That's
25:12
how
25:12
I
25:12
ended
25:12
up
25:13
having
25:13
some
25:14
experience
25:14
with
25:15
publishing
25:15
a
25:15
children's
25:16
book.
25:17
So,
25:17
yeah,
25:18
just
25:18
a
25:18
little
25:18
bit
25:19
different
25:19
for
25:20
sure.
25:20
Yeah.
25:21
Tell
25:21
us
25:22
a
25:22
little
25:22
bit
25:22
about
25:23
your
25:23
website
25:24
and
25:24
your
25:25
store
25:25
and
25:26
how
25:26
you
25:26
chose
25:27
the
25:27
items
25:27
that
25:27
you
25:28
have
25:28
on
25:29
your
25:29
website.
25:29
Store,
25:30
how
25:30
did
25:30
you
25:30
do
25:31
that?
25:31
Yeah,
25:32
so
25:32
gosh,
25:33
the
25:33
store,
25:33
that
25:34
was
25:34
also
25:34
another
25:35
big
25:35
debate
25:36
for
25:36
me
25:36
was
25:36
what
25:37
kind
25:37
of
25:37
store
25:37
did
25:37
I
25:37
want?
25:38
Because
25:38
there's
25:38
different.
25:39
Like
25:39
my
25:39
website
25:40
is
25:40
made
25:40
through
25:40
Squarespace,
25:42
which
25:42
I
25:42
liked
25:43
for
25:43
the
25:44
ease
25:44
of
25:44
updating
25:45
it
25:45
myself.
25:46
But
25:46
I
25:46
was
25:46
also
25:47
considering
25:47
Shopify,
25:48
which
25:48
is
25:48
a
25:49
lot
25:49
more.
25:49
I've
25:50
heard
25:50
it's
25:50
better
25:50
for
25:50
selling,
25:51
but
25:52
it's
25:52
also
25:52
much
25:53
more
25:53
expensive
25:53
to
25:54
maintain.
25:54
And
25:55
I
25:55
decided
25:55
ultimately
25:56
to
25:56
go
25:56
with
25:57
Squarespace
25:57
because
25:58
they
25:58
had
25:58
the
25:58
selling
25:58
feature
25:59
but
25:59
the
25:59
monthly
26:00
price
26:00
was
26:00
a
26:00
lot
26:00
more
26:01
reasonable.
26:01
And
26:01
I
26:01
figured
26:02
if
26:02
I
26:02
don't
26:02
sell
26:02
a
26:02
lot
26:03
of
26:03
books,
26:03
which
26:03
honestly
26:04
I
26:04
do
26:04
not
26:04
on
26:04
my
26:04
website,
26:05
I'm
26:06
not
26:06
feeling
26:07
the
26:07
squeeze
26:08
of
26:08
having
26:08
to
26:09
pay
26:09
so
26:09
much
26:10
money
26:10
for
26:10
a
26:10
website.
26:11
Sometimes
26:11
I
26:12
wonder,
26:12
will
26:12
I
26:12
be
26:12
selling
26:13
more
26:13
if
26:13
I
26:13
had
26:14
done
26:14
Shopify?
26:15
Maybe,
26:15
I
26:16
don't
26:16
know.
26:16
But
26:17
it's
26:17
always
26:17
interesting
26:18
because
26:18
I
26:18
actually
26:19
one
26:19
of
26:19
the
26:19
children's
26:20
book
26:20
authors
26:21
I
26:21
interviewed,
26:22
she
26:23
uses
26:24
Printful
26:25
and
26:26
it's
26:26
similar
26:27
to
26:27
Shopify,
26:28
it's
26:29
less
26:29
expensive.
26:30
So
26:31
I
26:31
thought,
26:31
oh,
26:31
this
26:31
is
26:32
interesting
26:32
because
26:32
we
26:32
don't
26:32
have
26:33
a,
26:33
a
26:34
store
26:34
on
26:34
our
26:35
website
26:35
and
26:36
But
26:36
I've
26:36
been
26:36
thinking
26:37
about,
26:37
oh,
26:38
you
26:38
know
26:38
what,
26:38
as
26:38
a
26:39
children's
26:39
book
26:39
author,
26:40
you
26:40
have
26:40
to
26:40
create
26:41
some
26:41
other
26:42
forms
26:42
of
26:43
revenue.
26:43
I
26:43
thought,
26:44
I'll
26:44
check
26:45
into
26:45
this.
26:45
So
26:45
I
26:46
looked
26:46
at
26:46
Printful,
26:47
I
26:47
looked
26:47
at
26:47
Shopify.
26:49
To
26:49
your
26:49
point,
26:50
Monica,
26:50
the
26:51
Shopify
26:52
was
26:52
more
26:52
expensive,
26:53
but
26:54
the
26:54
one
26:54
big
26:55
difference
26:55
was
26:55
is
26:56
they
26:56
handled
26:57
all
26:57
of
26:58
it.
26:58
So
26:58
they
26:58
even
26:59
handled
26:59
the
27:00
processing
27:00
of
27:01
the
27:01
payment.
27:02
And
27:03
with
27:03
Printful
27:04
you
27:04
had
27:04
to
27:05
get
27:05
involved
27:05
on
27:06
that
27:06
side
27:07
of
27:07
it.
27:07
And
27:07
I
27:08
thought
27:09
if
27:09
I'm
27:10
going
27:10
to
27:10
go
27:10
to
27:10
a
27:10
one
27:11
stop
27:11
shop,
27:12
I
27:12
want
27:12
to
27:12
be.
27:13
I
27:13
want
27:13
to
27:13
use
27:13
a
27:14
service
27:14
that's
27:14
a
27:14
one
27:15
stop
27:15
shop.
27:16
Interesting.
27:16
So
27:17
Squarespace
27:17
handles
27:18
the
27:18
payment
27:18
as
27:18
well.
27:19
They,
27:19
I
27:20
think
27:20
they
27:20
have.
27:21
I
27:21
think
27:21
what
27:21
sets
27:22
Shopify
27:22
apart
27:23
from
27:23
what
27:23
I
27:23
can
27:23
tell
27:23
as
27:24
a
27:24
consumer
27:24
is
27:24
that
27:24
Shopify
27:25
often
27:25
has
27:26
the
27:26
like
27:27
one
27:27
click
27:27
where
27:28
they've
27:28
saved
27:28
all
27:29
your
27:29
info
27:29
and
27:29
you
27:29
can
27:30
literally
27:30
text
27:31
your
27:31
phone
27:31
and
27:31
then
27:31
they've
27:32
had
27:32
your
27:32
credit
27:32
card
27:32
info
27:33
and
27:33
it's
27:33
very
27:33
easy
27:34
to
27:34
Check
27:34
out.
27:35
And
27:35
so
27:35
I
27:36
think
27:36
that
27:37
Shopify
27:37
has
27:37
a
27:38
leg
27:38
up
27:38
with
27:38
that.
27:39
That's
27:39
just
27:39
my
27:39
sense
27:40
as
27:40
a
27:40
consumer.
27:41
But
27:41
for
27:42
my
27:42
scale
27:42
of
27:42
business,
27:43
I
27:43
felt
27:43
like
27:44
I
27:44
didn't
27:44
want
27:44
to
27:44
be
27:44
paying
27:45
that
27:45
much
27:45
money.
27:46
As
27:46
for
27:46
what
27:46
I'm
27:47
selling
27:47
in
27:47
my
27:47
shop.
27:48
So
27:48
definitely
27:49
the
27:49
hardcovers
27:50
of
27:50
my
27:50
book
27:51
and
27:51
then
27:51
I
27:51
have
27:51
a
27:51
few
27:52
stickers
27:52
that
27:53
I
27:53
sell
27:53
and
27:53
then
27:54
also
27:54
some
27:54
postcards.
27:55
These
27:56
were
27:56
items
27:56
that
27:56
I
27:57
made
27:57
for
27:57
my
27:57
Kickstarter
27:58
and
27:58
they're
27:59
just
27:59
like
27:59
leftovers
28:00
from
28:00
that.
28:01
The
28:01
thing
28:01
is
28:02
that
28:02
my
28:03
illustrator.
28:03
I
28:03
don't
28:04
know
28:04
how
28:04
it
28:04
is
28:04
for
28:04
you,
28:04
but
28:04
my
28:05
illustrator
28:05
kept
28:06
her
28:06
copyrights
28:07
in
28:07
her
28:07
illustrations,
28:08
which
28:08
is
28:08
very
28:08
typical
28:09
that
28:09
illustrators,
28:10
unless
28:10
you're
28:11
willing
28:11
to
28:11
pay
28:12
a
28:12
ton,
28:12
they
28:13
retain
28:13
those
28:13
rights.
28:14
So
28:15
if
28:15
I
28:15
were
28:15
to
28:16
make
28:16
more
28:16
merchandise,
28:17
I
28:17
would
28:17
have
28:17
to
28:18
get
28:18
her
28:18
permission
28:19
or
28:19
her
28:20
sub
28:20
license
28:20
it
28:20
from
28:21
her.
28:21
Okay.
28:22
And
28:22
I
28:22
just
28:22
haven't
28:22
wanted
28:23
to
28:23
do
28:23
that.
28:23
I'm
28:23
sure
28:24
she
28:24
would
28:24
be
28:25
willing
28:25
to
28:25
work
28:25
with
28:25
me.
28:25
She's
28:26
a
28:26
wonderful
28:26
person.
28:27
I
28:27
just,
28:27
I
28:28
feel
28:28
like
28:29
there's
28:30
nothing
28:30
that
28:30
I
28:30
feel
28:31
like
28:31
is
28:32
really
28:32
missing.
28:33
Maybe
28:33
a
28:33
plushie.
28:34
I've
28:34
had
28:34
people
28:34
ask
28:34
me,
28:35
do
28:35
you
28:35
sell
28:35
stuffed
28:35
animal
28:36
Maggies?
28:36
And
28:37
I
28:37
see.
28:37
I
28:37
see
28:38
a
28:38
market
28:38
for
28:38
that.
28:38
But
28:39
I'm
28:39
also.
28:39
Do
28:39
I
28:39
really
28:40
want
28:40
to
28:40
get
28:40
in
28:40
the
28:40
business
28:41
of.
28:41
Of.
28:42
Of
28:42
now
28:42
shipping
28:43
out
28:43
toys
28:43
to
28:44
people?
28:44
Like,
28:44
that's.
28:45
I
28:45
want
28:45
to
28:45
pick
28:46
up
28:46
on
28:46
what
28:46
you're
28:46
talking
28:47
about.
28:47
Yes.
28:47
You
28:48
probably
28:48
see
28:48
caboose
28:49
in
28:49
the
28:49
background.
28:49
I
28:49
do
28:50
see
28:50
Caboose
28:50
in
28:50
the
28:50
background.
28:51
Here's
28:51
the
28:52
cool
28:52
thing.
28:53
What
28:53
happened
28:54
was
28:54
my
28:55
granddaughter
28:55
and
28:56
I
28:56
had
28:57
to
28:57
come
28:57
up
28:57
with
28:57
our
28:58
own
28:58
character
28:58
because
28:59
she
29:00
actually
29:00
had
29:00
plushies,
29:01
but
29:01
they
29:01
were
29:02
stuffies
29:03
that
29:03
this,
29:03
her
29:04
daycare
29:05
lent
29:05
her.
29:06
And
29:06
that's
29:06
how
29:07
this
29:07
whole
29:07
idea
29:08
got
29:08
started.
29:08
So
29:09
she
29:09
was
29:09
given.
29:10
There
29:10
was
29:10
two
29:10
of
29:10
them.
29:11
There
29:11
was
29:11
a
29:11
rabbit
29:12
named
29:12
Georgia
29:13
and
29:13
a
29:14
bear
29:14
named
29:15
George.
29:15
And
29:15
they
29:16
were
29:16
brother
29:16
and
29:16
sister
29:17
and
29:17
they
29:18
had
29:18
their
29:18
own
29:18
suitcase
29:19
and
29:19
their
29:19
own
29:19
clothes.
29:20
When
29:20
you
29:20
left
29:21
daycare
29:21
and
29:21
you're
29:21
going
29:22
on
29:22
a
29:22
trip,
29:22
you
29:22
got
29:23
to
29:23
take
29:23
one
29:23
of
29:23
the
29:24
plushies
29:24
and
29:24
their
29:25
clothes
29:25
with
29:25
you.
29:26
We
29:26
took
29:26
Georgia
29:27
with
29:27
us,
29:27
but.
29:28
And
29:28
it
29:28
was
29:28
a
29:29
lot
29:29
of
29:29
fun.
29:29
And
29:29
we
29:30
went
29:30
all
29:30
over
29:30
the
29:30
Rocky
29:31
Mountains
29:31
and
29:32
we
29:32
took
29:32
Georgia
29:33
to
29:33
so
29:34
many
29:34
places
29:35
it
29:35
blow
29:35
your
29:35
mind.
29:36
Skiing
29:37
and
29:38
all
29:38
these
29:38
historic
29:39
sites
29:39
and
29:39
stuff
29:40
like
29:40
that.
29:40
But
29:40
anyways,
29:41
when
29:42
Kyra
29:42
left
29:42
the
29:43
daycare
29:44
and
29:44
started
29:44
school,
29:45
we
29:46
didn't
29:46
have
29:46
access
29:47
to
29:47
any
29:47
of
29:47
that
29:47
stuff.
29:48
So
29:48
we
29:48
had
29:48
to
29:48
come
29:48
up
29:48
with
29:49
our
29:49
own
29:49
plushie
29:50
for
29:50
our
29:50
own
29:51
stories.
29:51
And
29:52
that
29:52
ended
29:52
up
29:52
being
29:53
a
29:54
bear
29:54
named
29:55
Caboose.
29:56
But
29:56
what
29:56
happened
29:57
was,
29:58
again,
29:58
we
29:58
didn't
29:58
know
29:59
what
29:59
Caboose
29:59
looked
30:00
like.
30:00
We
30:00
just
30:00
knew
30:00
that
30:00
Caboose
30:01
would
30:01
wear
30:01
an
30:02
engineering
30:02
outfit
30:03
because
30:04
we
30:04
named
30:04
it
30:04
at
30:05
the.
30:05
After
30:05
the
30:06
what
30:06
there
30:06
used
30:06
to
30:07
be
30:07
the
30:07
end
30:07
of
30:07
the
30:07
train.
30:08
So
30:08
anyways,
30:09
we.
30:09
I
30:09
was.
30:10
My
30:10
wife
30:10
and
30:10
I
30:10
were
30:11
in
30:11
San
30:12
Francisco,
30:13
and
30:14
we
30:14
went
30:14
into
30:14
one
30:14
of
30:15
those
30:15
build
30:15
a
30:16
bear
30:16
kind
30:16
of
30:16
things,
30:17
and
30:18
we
30:18
saw
30:19
this
30:20
engineering
30:21
outfit
30:21
with
30:21
the
30:21
engineering
30:22
hat.
30:23
And
30:23
guess
30:24
what
30:24
we
30:24
created
30:25
Caboose.
30:26
The
30:26
reason
30:26
I'm
30:27
telling
30:27
you
30:27
this
30:28
story
30:28
is
30:29
because
30:29
what
30:29
we
30:30
did
30:31
is
30:32
we
30:32
have
30:32
an
30:32
illustrator,
30:33
too.
30:34
And
30:34
we
30:34
actually,
30:35
because
30:36
we
30:36
supplied
30:37
the
30:37
main
30:38
character,
30:39
we
30:39
had
30:40
him
30:40
sign
30:41
a
30:41
contract
30:42
that
30:42
he
30:42
would
30:43
not
30:43
own
30:43
the
30:44
prop,
30:44
the
30:44
rights
30:45
to
30:45
the
30:46
caboose.
30:47
Got
30:47
it.
30:47
It
30:48
gives
30:48
us
30:48
more
30:48
flexibility
30:49
because
30:49
we
30:49
don't
30:49
have
30:50
to
30:50
worry
30:50
about
30:51
licensing
30:51
rights
30:52
because
30:52
we
30:52
own
30:53
all
30:53
of
30:54
the
30:54
characters
30:54
that
30:55
we've
30:55
been
30:55
developing
30:56
with
30:56
him,
30:57
and
30:57
the
30:58
primary
30:59
character
30:59
being
30:59
Caboose.
31:00
So
31:00
that
31:00
was
31:00
just
31:01
the
31:01
difference
31:01
for
31:01
us.
31:02
I
31:02
just
31:02
checked
31:02
into
31:03
this
31:03
again.
31:04
You
31:04
have
31:04
to
31:04
order
31:05
a
31:05
minimum
31:06
of
31:07
a
31:07
thousand
31:08
units
31:09
to
31:10
have
31:10
it
31:10
done.
31:11
Now,
31:12
what
31:12
happened
31:12
was
31:13
when
31:13
we
31:13
first.
31:14
We
31:15
have
31:15
some
31:16
book
31:17
retailers
31:17
that
31:18
sell
31:18
our
31:18
book,
31:19
and
31:20
one.
31:20
One
31:21
of
31:21
them
31:21
happens
31:21
to
31:21
be
31:21
a
31:22
friend
31:23
who
31:23
owns
31:24
a
31:24
store
31:24
in
31:24
the
31:24
Rocky
31:25
Mountains.
31:25
And
31:26
he
31:26
said
31:26
to
31:26
us,
31:27
oh,
31:27
Rick,
31:28
where
31:28
you
31:28
should
31:29
have
31:29
a
31:29
plushie
31:29
with
31:30
the
31:30
book.
31:30
Because
31:30
we
31:30
do
31:31
really
31:31
well
31:32
when
31:32
you
31:32
have
31:32
a
31:32
book
31:33
and
31:33
the
31:33
main
31:34
characters
31:34
are
31:34
stuffy.
31:35
And
31:35
I
31:36
said,
31:36
oh,
31:36
thanks,
31:36
Mike.
31:37
But
31:37
when
31:38
I
31:38
started
31:38
checking
31:38
into
31:39
it,
31:39
it's
31:40
not
31:40
that
31:40
easy,
31:41
because
31:41
by
31:41
the
31:41
time
31:42
you
31:42
pay
31:43
for
31:44
all
31:44
of
31:44
that,
31:45
you've
31:45
probably
31:46
got
31:46
yourself
31:47
a
31:47
price
31:48
on
31:48
a
31:48
stuffy
31:48
that's
31:49
just
31:49
astronomical.
31:51
Doesn't
31:51
make
31:52
a
31:52
lot
31:52
of
31:52
sense.
31:52
We're
31:53
still
31:53
trying
31:53
to
31:53
figure
31:53
out
31:54
how
31:54
to
31:54
do
31:54
it,
31:54
but
31:54
I
31:55
understand
31:55
exactly
31:56
what
31:56
you're
31:56
saying.
31:56
My
31:57
husband
31:57
said,
31:57
for
31:57
the
31:57
Kickstarter,
31:58
you
31:58
should
31:58
make
31:58
a
31:59
plastuffy
32:00
for
32:00
the
32:00
Kickstarter.
32:00
And
32:00
I
32:01
said,
32:01
I
32:02
think
32:02
something
32:02
flat
32:03
that
32:03
mailed
32:03
easily,
32:04
like
32:04
stickers,
32:05
postcards,
32:06
bookmarks.
32:06
That's
32:07
how
32:07
I'm
32:07
gonna
32:07
do
32:07
it.
32:07
I.
32:08
I
32:08
don't
32:08
need
32:08
to
32:08
be
32:08
dealing
32:09
with
32:09
shipping
32:10
and
32:10
packaging
32:11
stuffies.
32:11
And.
32:12
And
32:12
I've
32:13
actually,
32:13
I
32:13
have.
32:14
There's
32:14
this
32:14
woman
32:15
who.
32:15
She's
32:15
in
32:15
the
32:16
Navy.
32:16
She
32:16
has
32:16
two
32:17
kids,
32:17
and
32:18
she
32:18
recently
32:18
went
32:19
on
32:19
a
32:19
deployment,
32:19
and
32:20
she
32:20
sent
32:20
me
32:20
a
32:20
picture
32:21
of
32:21
her
32:21
children
32:21
reading
32:22
my
32:22
book.
32:22
And
32:22
they
32:22
each
32:22
had
32:23
a
32:23
little
32:23
white
32:23
rat
32:24
that
32:24
they
32:24
were
32:24
holding.
32:25
And
32:25
I
32:25
guess
32:25
she
32:25
just
32:25
ordered
32:26
them
32:26
on
32:26
Amazon.
32:26
And
32:27
those
32:27
are
32:27
her
32:27
kids,
32:28
Maggie's.
32:28
And
32:29
I
32:29
just
32:29
thought,
32:29
that's
32:30
brilliant.
32:30
You
32:30
can
32:31
just
32:31
get,
32:31
like
32:31
a
32:31
generic
32:32
white
32:32
rat
32:33
stuffed
32:33
animal.
32:34
It's
32:35
funny
32:35
you
32:35
should
32:35
mention
32:36
that,
32:36
because
32:36
I
32:37
Found
32:37
a
32:37
place
32:38
that
32:38
we
32:38
can
32:39
actually
32:39
buy.
32:40
It's
32:40
more
32:41
the
32:41
color
32:41
than
32:41
it
32:42
is
32:42
a
32:42
stuff
32:43
there.
32:43
But
32:44
what
32:44
we
32:44
tried
32:44
to
32:45
do
32:45
is
32:45
find
32:45
a
32:45
small
32:46
enough
32:46
bear
32:46
that
32:47
the
32:47
price
32:47
was
32:47
good.
32:48
And
32:49
I
32:49
just
32:49
ordered
32:50
some
32:50
samples
32:50
to
32:51
have
32:51
a
32:51
look.
32:51
Because
32:52
what
32:52
we
32:52
need
32:52
to
32:53
do
32:53
is
32:53
of
32:53
course
32:54
build
32:55
the
32:55
outfit.
32:56
Finding
32:56
a
32:56
local
32:57
seamstress
32:58
that
32:58
maybe
32:58
could
32:59
do
32:59
that.
32:59
So
32:59
we're
32:59
going
33:00
to
33:00
check
33:00
that
33:00
out,
33:00
see
33:01
where
33:01
we
33:01
end
33:01
up
33:01
in
33:02
terms
33:02
of
33:02
pricing
33:02
before
33:03
we
33:03
get
33:03
too
33:04
crazy.
33:04
But
33:05
you
33:05
hit
33:05
it
33:05
right
33:05
on
33:05
the
33:06
button.
33:06
Being
33:07
able
33:07
to
33:07
have
33:07
your
33:07
own
33:08
rat
33:09
or
33:09
find
33:10
a
33:10
stuffy
33:10
rat
33:11
is.
33:11
Is
33:12
important.
33:13
I'm
33:13
going
33:13
to
33:13
show
33:13
you
33:14
something.
33:14
So
33:14
I
33:14
know
33:14
that
33:15
your
33:15
audience
33:16
can't
33:16
hear
33:16
this,
33:17
but
33:17
you
33:17
already
33:18
can't
33:18
see
33:18
this.
33:18
But
33:18
you
33:18
can
33:19
see
33:19
it.
33:19
It's
33:19
a
33:19
friend
33:20
of
33:20
mine
33:20
made
33:20
that.
33:21
It's
33:21
a
33:21
Maggie,
33:21
the
33:22
military
33:22
rat
33:23
made
33:23
by
33:24
my
33:24
friend.
33:24
Yeah.
33:25
And
33:25
it's.
33:25
It
33:25
was
33:26
really
33:26
special
33:27
that
33:27
she
33:27
actually
33:27
made
33:27
it
33:28
for
33:28
me.
33:28
I
33:29
do
33:29
have
33:29
one
33:29
stuffy
33:30
made
33:30
by
33:30
a
33:31
friend.
33:31
It's
33:31
not
33:31
for
33:32
the
33:32
audience.
33:33
It's
33:33
a
33:33
stuffy
33:34
and
33:34
a
33:34
sitting
33:34
with
33:35
the
33:35
American
33:35
flag
33:36
in
33:36
a
33:36
red
33:37
wagon.
33:37
Yes.
33:38
Very
33:38
cute.
33:39
Very
33:39
cute.
33:39
Yeah.
33:40
So
33:40
I.
33:41
Before
33:42
we
33:42
leave
33:42
your
33:42
website,
33:43
I
33:43
noticed
33:43
another
33:44
thing
33:44
that
33:44
you
33:45
do
33:45
that
33:46
I
33:46
haven't
33:47
seen
33:47
anybody
33:47
else
33:48
do.
33:49
They
33:49
could
33:49
be
33:49
doing
33:50
it
33:50
as
33:50
a
33:50
children's
33:50
book
33:51
author,
33:51
but
33:51
I
33:51
haven't
33:52
seen
33:52
it
33:52
as
33:52
predominant
33:53
as.
33:53
As
33:54
you've
33:54
done
33:54
it.
33:54
I
33:55
noticed
33:55
that
33:55
you
33:55
do
33:56
a
33:56
feature
33:56
bio
33:57
on
33:57
your
33:58
illustrator
33:59
and
33:59
your
34:00
book
34:00
designer.
34:01
Can
34:01
you
34:02
tell
34:02
us
34:02
why
34:02
you
34:03
gave
34:03
them
34:03
that
34:03
much
34:04
space
34:04
on
34:05
your
34:05
website
34:06
and
34:07
tell
34:08
us
34:08
the
34:08
why?
34:08
And
34:08
is
34:09
there
34:09
any
34:09
compensation
34:10
for
34:10
this?
34:11
So.
34:11
No,
34:12
there's
34:12
not
34:12
any
34:12
compensation.
34:13
I
34:13
did
34:13
it
34:13
because
34:14
without
34:15
them
34:15
my
34:15
book
34:15
would
34:15
not
34:16
be
34:16
what
34:16
it
34:16
is.
34:17
And
34:18
I'm
34:18
really
34:18
proud
34:18
of
34:19
my
34:19
team,
34:19
especially
34:20
that
34:20
it's
34:20
an
34:20
all
34:20
female
34:21
team.
34:21
That
34:22
was
34:22
intentional
34:22
on
34:23
my
34:23
part.
34:23
I
34:23
really,
34:24
I
34:24
just
34:24
lucked
34:24
out
34:25
with
34:25
the
34:25
best
34:25
team
34:25
on
34:26
my
34:26
book.
34:26
So
34:27
Elia
34:27
Velazquez
34:28
Murray,
34:28
she's
34:29
my
34:29
illustrator.
34:30
I
34:30
found
34:30
her
34:31
through
34:31
SCBWI
34:32
at
34:33
Society
34:33
of
34:33
Children's
34:33
Book
34:34
Writers
34:34
and
34:34
Illustrators.
34:35
And
34:36
she
34:36
actually
34:36
is
34:37
local.
34:38
She
34:38
lives
34:38
about
34:38
half
34:39
an
34:39
hour
34:39
from
34:39
me.
34:40
So
34:40
we
34:40
actually
34:41
got
34:41
to
34:41
meet
34:41
in
34:41
person
34:42
and
34:42
throughout
34:43
the
34:43
process
34:44
work
34:44
on
34:44
the
34:44
book
34:44
together.
34:45
And
34:46
then
34:46
my
34:47
book
34:47
designer,
34:48
who
34:48
I
34:48
don't
34:48
believe,
34:49
I
34:49
don't
34:49
think
34:49
she
34:49
designed
34:50
books
34:50
anymore.
34:50
She
34:51
took
34:51
on
34:51
a
34:51
full
34:51
time
34:51
job,
34:52
but
34:52
she
34:53
was
34:54
a
34:54
military
34:55
spouse.
34:55
Actually
34:56
she
34:56
was
34:56
former.
34:57
I
34:57
think
34:57
she
34:57
was
34:57
a
34:57
veteran.
34:58
She's
34:58
former
34:58
military
34:59
herself
34:59
and
34:59
a
34:59
military
35:00
spouse.
35:01
And
35:01
they
35:02
were
35:02
both
35:02
just
35:03
so
35:03
wonderful
35:04
to
35:04
work
35:04
with
35:04
that
35:04
I
35:05
felt
35:05
like
35:05
I
35:06
wanted
35:06
to
35:06
recognize
35:07
them.
35:07
And
35:07
it
35:08
started
35:08
with
35:08
the
35:08
Kickstarter.
35:09
It's
35:09
pretty
35:09
common
35:09
to
35:10
do
35:10
that
35:10
on
35:10
Kickstarters,
35:11
that
35:11
people
35:11
highlight
35:12
the
35:12
team.
35:13
And
35:13
then
35:13
when
35:14
I
35:14
was
35:14
making
35:14
my
35:14
website,
35:15
I
35:15
just
35:15
thought,
35:15
why
35:16
not
35:16
highlight
35:17
who
35:18
made
35:18
the
35:18
book?
35:19
First
35:19
of
35:19
all,
35:19
very
35:19
generous
35:20
of
35:20
you.
35:20
The
35:21
only
35:21
reason
35:21
I
35:21
bring
35:21
it
35:22
up
35:22
is
35:22
I,
35:22
I
35:22
want
35:23
to
35:23
trigger
35:23
different
35:23
things
35:24
for
35:24
people.
35:24
The
35:25
other
35:25
thing
35:25
is
35:26
it
35:26
brings
35:27
me
35:27
back
35:27
to
35:28
what
35:28
you
35:28
talked
35:28
about
35:29
earlier,
35:29
about
35:30
it's
35:31
not
35:31
easy
35:32
to
35:32
make
35:32
money
35:32
as
35:33
a
35:33
children's
35:33
book
35:34
author.
35:34
Okay.
35:35
You're
35:35
not
35:35
doing
35:35
this
35:36
as
35:36
a
35:36
career
35:37
in
35:37
most
35:37
cases.
35:38
And
35:39
so
35:39
you're
35:39
always
35:39
looking
35:40
for
35:40
how
35:41
can
35:41
you
35:41
bring
35:41
in
35:42
at
35:42
least
35:42
some
35:43
other
35:43
revenue
35:44
to
35:45
help
35:45
offset
35:45
your
35:46
costs.
35:47
And
35:47
so
35:48
it
35:48
got
35:48
me
35:48
thinking,
35:49
maybe
35:49
what
35:49
happens
35:50
is
35:50
that
35:51
Monica,
35:52
if
35:52
they
35:52
get
35:53
a
35:53
referral
35:53
from
35:54
your
35:54
website,
35:55
they
35:55
give
35:55
you
35:56
no
35:56
hundred
35:57
bucks
35:57
or.
35:58
Yeah,
35:58
but
35:58
at
35:59
least
35:59
it
35:59
allows.
36:00
That's
36:00
a
36:00
good
36:00
question
36:00
to
36:01
ask.
36:01
Yeah,
36:01
yeah,
36:02
absolutely.
36:02
For
36:02
sure.
36:03
And
36:03
that's
36:03
what
36:03
I
36:03
want
36:03
people
36:04
to
36:04
understand.
36:05
It
36:05
might
36:05
be
36:05
a
36:06
way.
36:06
Because
36:06
I
36:06
don't
36:07
think
36:07
if
36:07
you
36:08
brought
36:08
your
36:08
illustrator
36:09
some
36:09
business,
36:10
she
36:11
just
36:11
say,
36:11
oh,
36:11
well,
36:11
thank
36:12
you
36:12
very
36:12
much.
36:13
She
36:13
probably
36:14
think,
36:14
oh,
36:15
what
36:15
can
36:15
I
36:15
do
36:16
for
36:16
Monica?
36:17
And
36:17
that
36:17
may
36:17
not
36:17
be
36:18
monetary.
36:18
It
36:19
might
36:19
be
36:19
a
36:19
free
36:19
illustration
36:21
or
36:21
something
36:21
like
36:22
that.
36:22
I'm
36:22
just
36:22
throwing
36:23
different
36:23
ideas
36:23
out
36:24
at
36:24
people
36:24
to
36:24
think
36:25
about
36:25
because
36:26
it's
36:26
the
36:26
illustration,
36:28
as
36:28
Monica
36:28
and
36:29
I
36:29
both
36:29
know
36:30
is
36:30
the
36:30
most
36:31
expensive
36:31
part
36:32
of
36:32
the
36:33
book.
36:34
And
36:34
so
36:34
if
36:34
you
36:35
can
36:35
find
36:35
ways
36:35
to
36:35
offset
36:36
those
36:36
costs,
36:37
that'd
36:37
be
36:38
fantastic.
36:38
Anyways,
36:39
thank
36:39
you
36:39
for
36:39
sharing
36:40
that
36:40
motivation.
36:42
Now,
36:42
I
36:42
know
36:42
you
36:43
talked
36:43
about
36:43
your.
36:43
Was
36:44
it
36:44
your
36:44
son
36:44
or
36:44
your
36:45
daughter?
36:45
That
36:46
daughter.
36:46
Daughter
36:47
that
36:47
came
36:47
up
36:47
with
36:47
the
36:47
military
36:48
rad.
36:49
Tell
36:49
us,
36:50
was
36:50
she
36:50
the
36:51
main
36:51
motivation
36:52
or.
36:53
You
36:53
said
36:53
it
36:53
was
36:53
about
36:53
a
36:54
six
36:54
year
36:55
journey
36:55
and
36:55
there
36:55
was
36:56
all
36:56
kinds
36:56
of
36:56
things
36:57
that
36:57
went
36:57
on.
36:58
What
36:58
kept
36:58
you
36:59
going?
36:59
What
36:59
was
36:59
the.
37:00
Now
37:00
you
37:00
had
37:01
this
37:01
great
37:01
idea.
37:02
What
37:02
kept
37:02
you
37:02
going
37:03
through
37:03
all
37:03
this
37:03
time?
37:04
I
37:04
don't
37:04
think
37:05
I
37:05
realized
37:05
this
37:05
at
37:05
the
37:06
time,
37:06
but
37:06
writing
37:07
this
37:07
book
37:07
was
37:08
very
37:08
autobiographical
37:09
for
37:09
me.
37:10
I
37:10
am
37:11
Maggie.
37:11
I.
37:12
I'm
37:12
married
37:13
to
37:13
someone
37:14
in
37:14
the
37:14
military.
37:14
I
37:14
did
37:14
not
37:15
grow
37:15
up
37:15
in
37:15
a
37:15
military
37:16
family.
37:16
And
37:17
I
37:18
wanted
37:18
to
37:19
show
37:19
my
37:19
support
37:20
for
37:20
him
37:21
somehow
37:21
or
37:21
do
37:22
my
37:22
part.
37:22
Right.
37:23
And
37:23
so
37:23
it
37:23
was
37:24
inspired
37:24
both
37:25
by
37:25
my
37:26
kind
37:26
of
37:26
wanting
37:26
to
37:26
find
37:27
my
37:27
place
37:27
in
37:27
the
37:28
military
37:28
life
37:28
because
37:29
when
37:30
you
37:30
move
37:30
around
37:31
and
37:31
you're
37:31
constantly
37:32
having
37:32
to
37:33
create
37:33
community
37:34
wherever
37:34
you
37:35
go,
37:35
it
37:35
can
37:35
be
37:35
lonely
37:36
and
37:36
isolating.
37:37
And
37:37
I
37:37
think
37:38
that
37:38
I,
37:38
I
37:38
really
37:39
empathize
37:39
with
37:40
military
37:41
kids
37:41
who
37:41
are
37:42
having
37:42
a
37:42
hard
37:42
time
37:42
and
37:43
just
37:43
seeing
37:43
my
37:43
own
37:43
kids
37:44
when
37:44
they've,
37:44
they've
37:45
moved
37:45
a
37:45
few
37:45
times
37:45
and
37:46
So
37:47
I
37:47
think
37:47
for
37:47
me
37:47
it
37:47
was
37:48
like
37:48
a
37:48
very
37:48
autobiographical
37:49
thing
37:50
of
37:50
just
37:50
wanting
37:50
to
37:51
find
37:51
my
37:51
place
37:51
and
37:52
my
37:52
purpose.
37:52
And
37:52
the
37:53
book
37:53
really
37:53
gave
37:54
me
37:54
that.
37:54
So
37:55
that's
37:55
probably
37:55
why
37:55
I
37:55
kept
37:56
coming
37:56
back
37:56
to
37:56
it.
37:56
Yeah,
37:57
it's
37:58
interesting
37:58
because
37:58
we
37:58
all
37:58
have
37:59
our
37:59
own
37:59
connections.
38:00
I,
38:00
I
38:00
found
38:01
this
38:01
probably
38:02
95%
38:03
of
38:03
the
38:03
time
38:04
there's
38:04
some
38:05
personal
38:05
reflection
38:07
in
38:07
the
38:07
children's
38:08
book,
38:08
even
38:09
for
38:09
ourselves.
38:10
Like
38:10
Caboose,
38:11
if
38:11
you
38:11
notice,
38:12
it
38:12
starts
38:12
with
38:12
a
38:13
K
38:13
then.
38:15
And
38:15
the
38:15
reason
38:16
being
38:16
is
38:16
my
38:17
oldest
38:17
granddaughter's
38:18
name
38:18
is
38:18
Kira,
38:19
which
38:19
starts
38:19
with
38:19
a
38:20
K.
38:21
That's
38:21
how
38:21
we
38:22
ended
38:22
up,
38:22
because
38:23
Caboose
38:23
is
38:23
really
38:24
Kira.
38:25
And
38:25
so
38:25
that's
38:25
why
38:26
we
38:26
made
38:26
Caboose
38:27
with
38:27
a
38:27
K.
38:28
And
38:28
in
38:28
the
38:29
book,
38:29
a
38:30
lot
38:30
of
38:30
the
38:30
adventures
38:31
are
38:31
with
38:31
her
38:31
papa,
38:32
which
38:33
happens
38:33
to
38:33
be
38:33
me.
38:34
And
38:34
so
38:34
I'm
38:34
in
38:34
the
38:35
book.
38:35
So
38:36
I'm
38:36
reflected
38:36
in
38:37
the
38:37
book.
38:37
It's
38:37
just
38:37
the
38:38
way
38:38
it
38:38
is.
38:38
But
38:39
because
38:39
you
38:39
know
38:39
what,
38:40
every
38:40
one
38:40
of
38:40
our
38:40
stories,
38:41
and
38:41
we've
38:41
written
38:42
38
38:42
stories,
38:43
there's.
38:44
They're
38:45
all
38:45
based
38:45
on
38:46
some
38:47
true
38:48
event
38:49
that
38:49
happened
38:49
to
38:49
us.
38:50
And
38:50
then
38:50
we
38:50
just
38:51
turned
38:51
it
38:51
into
38:51
a
38:51
children's
38:52
book.
38:52
That's
38:53
so
38:53
cool.
38:53
Talk
38:54
to
38:54
us
38:54
about.
38:55
I
38:55
know
38:55
you
38:55
mentioned
38:56
this.
38:56
I
38:56
want
38:56
to
38:56
talk
38:56
about
38:57
character
38:57
development
38:58
a
38:58
bit
38:58
because
38:59
you
38:59
said
39:00
people
39:00
at
39:01
first
39:01
said
39:01
to
39:01
you,
39:02
oh,
39:02
Monica,
39:03
make
39:03
it
39:04
a
39:04
mouse,
39:04
not
39:04
a
39:05
rat.
39:05
Talk
39:05
to
39:06
us
39:06
about
39:07
Maggie's
39:08
development
39:09
and
39:10
explain
39:10
to
39:11
us
39:11
the
39:11
significance
39:12
also
39:12
of
39:13
Maggie.
39:13
Why
39:14
Maggie?
39:15
Okay,
39:16
so
39:16
the
39:17
character
39:17
development.
39:18
It's
39:18
funny
39:18
that
39:18
you
39:18
ask
39:19
because
39:19
I
39:19
was
39:19
just
39:19
looking
39:19
at
39:20
my
39:20
notes
39:20
from
39:20
my
39:21
critique
39:21
partner
39:22
back
39:22
when
39:22
I
39:23
was
39:23
really
39:23
refining
39:24
the
39:24
book
39:24
and
39:24
she
39:25
was
39:25
asking
39:25
me,
39:26
like,
39:26
how
39:26
old
39:26
is
39:26
Maggie
39:27
and
39:28
does
39:28
she
39:28
have
39:29
a
39:29
family?
39:29
And
39:29
she's
39:29
asking
39:30
me
39:30
a
39:30
lot
39:30
of
39:30
questions
39:30
about
39:31
who
39:31
Maggie
39:31
is.
39:32
And
39:32
I
39:32
like
39:33
the
39:33
idea
39:33
of
39:34
Maggie
39:34
being
39:35
kind
39:35
of
39:35
ageless.
39:36
She
39:36
has
39:37
qualities,
39:37
but
39:38
she,
39:38
she
39:39
has,
39:39
she
39:39
wants
39:39
to
39:40
be
39:40
in
39:40
the
39:40
military.
39:40
So
39:40
is
39:41
she
39:41
18?
39:41
You're
39:41
not
39:42
really
39:42
sure
39:42
how
39:42
old
39:42
she
39:42
is,
39:43
but
39:43
I
39:43
think
39:43
with
39:44
her
39:44
being
39:44
small,
39:44
children
39:45
can
39:45
relate
39:45
to
39:46
her.
39:47
And,
39:47
and
39:47
I
39:48
did,
39:49
like
39:49
I
39:49
said,
39:49
I
39:49
really
39:50
like
39:50
the
39:50
idea
39:50
that
39:50
she's
39:51
a
39:51
rat.
39:51
That
39:52
to
39:52
me
39:52
was
39:52
a
39:53
non
39:53
negotiable
39:54
and
39:55
she's
39:55
very
39:55
earnest.
39:56
She's
39:57
deeply
39:57
patriotic
39:58
and
39:58
she
39:58
wants
39:58
to
39:58
find
39:58
a
39:59
way
39:59
to
39:59
serve
39:59
and
40:00
nothing's
40:00
gonna
40:01
stop
40:01
her.
40:01
So
40:02
that's
40:02
Maggie.
40:03
As
40:03
for
40:03
the
40:03
name
40:04
Maggie,
40:04
it's
40:05
actually
40:05
the
40:06
name
40:06
of
40:06
a
40:06
street
40:06
that
40:06
we
40:06
lived
40:07
on.
40:07
And
40:07
I
40:08
just
40:08
always
40:08
have
40:08
loved
40:09
the
40:09
name
40:09
Maggie.
40:09
I
40:10
like
40:10
the
40:10
Maggie,
40:11
the
40:11
military
40:11
rat,
40:12
like
40:12
the
40:12
alliteration.
40:13
Yes.
40:13
And
40:13
I
40:13
love
40:14
the
40:14
name
40:14
Maggie
40:14
too.
40:15
And
40:15
then
40:15
also
40:16
One
40:16
of
40:16
my
40:16
favorite
40:17
children's
40:17
books,
40:18
which
40:18
I
40:18
think
40:18
is
40:19
out
40:19
of
40:19
print,
40:19
but
40:19
you
40:20
can
40:20
find
40:20
it
40:20
on
40:20
Amazon
40:21
used,
40:21
is
40:22
called
40:22
the
40:22
Maggie
40:22
Bee,
40:23
and
40:23
it's
40:24
about
40:24
a
40:24
little
40:25
girl
40:25
who
40:26
sails
40:26
away
40:26
on
40:26
a
40:27
ship.
40:27
It's
40:27
like
40:28
a
40:28
fantasy
40:28
that
40:28
she
40:29
has
40:29
that
40:29
she's
40:29
gonna
40:30
go
40:30
on
40:30
this
40:30
ship
40:30
and
40:31
her
40:31
name
40:31
is
40:31
Margaret,
40:32
and
40:32
she
40:32
names
40:32
the
40:32
ship
40:33
the
40:33
Maggie
40:33
B.
40:34
And
40:34
around
40:35
the
40:35
time
40:35
when
40:35
I
40:36
was
40:36
coming
40:36
up
40:36
with
40:37
the
40:37
Military
40:37
Rat,
40:37
we
40:37
were
40:38
reading
40:38
that
40:38
book
40:38
a
40:38
lot.
40:39
And
40:39
so
40:39
the
40:39
combination
40:40
of
40:40
it
40:40
being
40:41
the
40:42
idea
40:42
of
40:42
the
40:42
forever
40:43
home
40:43
Maggie
40:44
and
40:44
then
40:45
Maggie
40:46
as
40:46
the
40:46
book
40:46
I
40:47
liked,
40:47
it
40:47
just.
40:48
Just
40:48
flowed.
40:48
Maggie,
40:48
the
40:48
Military
40:49
Rat.
40:49
Fantastic.
40:50
It's
40:50
interesting
40:51
because
40:51
what
40:52
I
40:52
found,
40:52
too,
40:52
for
40:53
myself
40:53
being
40:54
an
40:54
army
40:55
brac,
40:56
was
40:57
I
40:57
could
40:57
relate
40:58
to
40:58
Grace
40:59
a
40:59
lot
41:00
because
41:00
that
41:01
was
41:01
me.
41:01
I
41:02
have
41:02
pictures
41:02
of
41:03
my
41:03
brother
41:03
and
41:03
I.
41:04
My
41:04
brother's
41:04
younger
41:04
than
41:04
me,
41:05
but
41:05
my
41:06
dad
41:06
in
41:06
his
41:06
uniform,
41:07
and
41:08
we
41:08
were
41:08
very
41:08
young
41:09
and.
41:10
Yeah.
41:10
And
41:10
I
41:10
was
41:11
an
41:11
army
41:11
brat
41:12
for
41:12
25
41:12
years
41:13
and
41:13
still
41:13
am.
41:14
Like,
41:14
I
41:15
still
41:15
go
41:15
to
41:15
reunions
41:16
and
41:16
stuff
41:17
like
41:17
that.
41:17
So
41:17
it's
41:17
quite
41:18
interesting.
41:18
The
41:19
thing
41:19
I
41:19
loved
41:19
about
41:20
Maggie,
41:20
too,
41:20
and
41:20
I
41:21
want
41:21
to
41:21
get
41:21
into
41:22
talking
41:22
about
41:23
a
41:23
little
41:23
bit
41:24
about
41:24
the
41:24
theme
41:24
of
41:24
your
41:25
book,
41:25
but
41:25
I.
41:26
If
41:26
you
41:26
said
41:26
give
41:27
me
41:27
one
41:27
word
41:28
that
41:28
describes
41:28
Maggie,
41:29
I
41:30
would
41:30
just
41:30
say
41:31
stick
41:31
to
41:31
it.
41:31
Iveness.
41:32
That's
41:33
what.
41:33
Yeah,
41:33
I
41:33
was
41:33
going
41:33
to
41:34
say
41:34
persistent.
41:35
Yes.
41:35
Yes.
41:36
Yeah.
41:36
And
41:36
it's
41:37
funny
41:37
because
41:37
that's
41:38
the
41:38
word
41:38
I'd
41:38
use
41:38
to
41:39
describe
41:39
myself.
41:39
And
41:39
so
41:40
when
41:40
we
41:40
say
41:40
it's
41:40
autobiographical.
41:42
Fantastic.
41:43
Tell
41:43
us
41:43
a
41:44
little
41:44
bit
41:44
about
41:44
the
41:45
theme
41:45
of
41:45
the
41:45
book.
41:46
The
41:46
book
41:46
is
41:47
really
41:47
about
41:48
not
41:48
giving
41:48
up
41:49
on
41:49
your
41:49
dream,
41:50
number
41:50
one.
41:51
And
41:51
then
41:51
so
41:52
not
41:52
just
41:52
because
41:53
you're
41:53
too
41:53
small
41:54
to
41:55
do
41:55
something
41:55
in
41:56
the
41:56
way
41:56
you
41:56
thought
41:56
you
41:56
wanted
41:57
to
41:57
do
41:57
it,
41:57
or
41:57
maybe
41:57
you're
41:57
too
41:58
ratty
41:58
or
41:58
whatever.
41:58
You're.
41:59
It's.
41:59
You
42:00
can
42:00
still
42:00
find
42:00
another
42:01
way
42:01
to
42:02
achieve
42:03
your
42:03
goal.
42:03
And
42:04
then
42:04
lastly,
42:04
it's
42:04
a
42:05
friendship.
42:05
It's
42:06
about.
42:06
I
42:06
think
42:06
it's
42:07
really
42:07
trying
42:07
to
42:08
get
42:08
people
42:09
to
42:09
realize
42:09
that
42:10
even
42:10
military
42:11
kids
42:12
serve
42:12
in
42:12
their
42:12
own
42:12
way.
42:13
And
42:13
that
42:14
just
42:14
by
42:14
being
42:15
a
42:15
friend
42:15
to
42:15
them
42:15
and
42:15
opening
42:16
your
42:16
heart
42:17
to
42:17
them,
42:17
that's
42:17
a
42:18
way
42:18
to
42:18
serve
42:19
as
42:19
an
42:19
RV
42:20
brat.
42:20
The
42:21
one
42:21
thing
42:21
that
42:22
you
42:22
had
42:22
to
42:22
learn
42:22
to
42:23
do
42:23
was
42:24
develop
42:24
fast
42:25
friends.
42:26
Yeah.
42:27
We
42:27
were
42:27
posted
42:27
in
42:28
Germany
42:28
for
42:28
four
42:29
years,
42:29
and
42:30
it
42:30
was
42:31
a
42:31
constant.
42:31
You
42:32
probably
42:32
saw
42:32
this.
42:33
Any
42:33
of
42:33
your
42:33
postings.
42:34
It
42:34
was
42:35
a
42:35
constant
42:35
rotation
42:36
of
42:37
people,
42:38
and
42:38
you
42:39
develop
42:39
these
42:40
friendships,
42:40
and
42:41
then.
42:41
All
42:41
of
42:41
a
42:41
sudden
42:42
they're
42:42
gone
42:43
when
42:43
you
42:43
live
42:43
there.
42:44
So
42:44
they're.
42:45
Actually,
42:45
I
42:45
was
42:45
lucky
42:45
because
42:46
I.
42:46
I
42:46
was
42:46
13
42:47
to
42:47
17.
42:48
Okay.
42:49
So
42:49
I
42:49
was.
42:49
Why
42:49
do
42:50
you
42:50
say
42:50
that?
42:50
You
42:50
were
42:50
lucky
42:50
because
42:51
you.
42:51
Yes,
42:52
Monica,
42:53
it's
42:53
incredible.
42:54
I
42:54
can
42:55
remember
42:56
every,
42:57
I
42:57
can
42:57
probably
42:57
remember
42:58
every
42:58
single
42:59
day.
42:59
It
43:00
is,
43:00
it's
43:00
so
43:01
vivid
43:01
now.
43:01
As
43:01
a,
43:02
as
43:02
a
43:02
military
43:03
brat,
43:04
we
43:04
were
43:04
well
43:05
taken
43:05
care
43:05
of
43:05
and
43:05
I'm
43:06
sure
43:06
it
43:06
didn't
43:07
matter
43:07
if
43:07
you're
43:07
an
43:08
American
43:09
forces
43:09
as
43:10
a
43:10
family
43:10
or
43:11
the
43:11
Canadian
43:11
forces
43:12
a
43:12
family.
43:12
We
43:13
got
43:13
to
43:13
do
43:13
so
43:14
much.
43:14
Our
43:14
school
43:15
trips
43:15
were
43:15
to
43:15
London,
43:16
Paris,
43:17
Vienna.
43:18
Like
43:18
it
43:18
was
43:19
just
43:19
a
43:19
wild.
43:19
I
43:20
played
43:20
hockey
43:21
all
43:21
over
43:21
Europe.
43:22
I
43:22
was
43:22
at
43:22
a
43:23
scouting
43:24
jamboree
43:25
in
43:25
Belgium.
43:26
Wow.
43:27
So
43:27
how
43:27
can
43:27
you
43:28
not
43:28
remember
43:28
all
43:29
of
43:29
that?
43:29
So
43:29
it's,
43:29
I'm
43:30
sure
43:30
it's
43:30
the
43:30
same
43:30
with
43:31
when
43:31
you
43:31
folks
43:31
were
43:32
in
43:32
Spain.
43:33
Yeah.
43:34
Yeah.
43:34
Hard
43:35
for
43:35
you
43:35
to
43:35
move
43:35
at
43:35
that
43:36
age.
43:36
I
43:36
feel
43:36
like
43:36
that's
43:37
when
43:37
13,
43:38
that's
43:38
when
43:38
they
43:38
say
43:39
it
43:39
starts
43:39
getting
43:39
tough
43:40
to.
43:40
Ah,
43:41
great
43:41
question.
43:42
What
43:42
happened
43:43
was
43:43
this.
43:43
I,
43:44
so
43:44
I
43:44
went
43:44
to
43:45
elementary
43:46
school
43:46
from
43:46
kindergarten
43:47
to
43:47
grade
43:48
six
43:48
and
43:49
then
43:49
I
43:50
had
43:50
to
43:50
change
43:51
schools.
43:52
So
43:52
when
43:52
we
43:52
changed
43:53
schools
43:53
I
43:53
started
43:54
junior,
43:55
we
43:55
call
43:55
it
43:56
junior
43:56
high.
43:57
And
43:57
so
43:57
I
43:57
was
43:57
in
43:58
grade
43:58
seven.
43:58
So
43:59
it
43:59
was
43:59
part
44:00
way,
44:00
the
44:01
early
44:01
part
44:01
of
44:02
grade
44:02
eight
44:02
that
44:02
we
44:03
got
44:03
transferred.
44:04
I
44:04
would
44:04
say
44:05
it
44:05
wasn't
44:06
as
44:06
difficult
44:06
because
44:07
I
44:07
hadn't,
44:07
I,
44:08
a
44:08
lot
44:08
of
44:09
the
44:09
kids,
44:09
they
44:10
got
44:10
their
44:11
folks
44:11
got
44:11
transferred
44:12
or
44:12
whatever.
44:13
So
44:13
I
44:13
wasn't
44:13
bringing
44:14
a
44:14
whole
44:15
array
44:16
of
44:16
friends
44:16
with
44:17
me.
44:17
I
44:17
was
44:18
starting
44:18
afresh
44:19
again.
44:20
So
44:20
I
44:20
just
44:20
thought
44:21
that
44:21
was
44:21
normal.
44:22
That's
44:22
how
44:22
it
44:22
worked
44:23
out
44:23
for
44:23
us.
44:23
Central
44:24
teaching
44:24
in
44:25
the
44:25
book.
44:25
So
44:26
what
44:26
would
44:26
you
44:26
say
44:26
is
44:27
the
44:27
central
44:27
lesson
44:28
or
44:28
teaching
44:29
from
44:29
your
44:29
book?
44:30
I
44:30
think
44:30
that
44:31
no
44:31
matter
44:31
how
44:31
small
44:32
you
44:32
are,
44:32
you
44:32
can
44:33
always
44:33
find
44:33
your
44:33
way
44:34
to
44:34
make
44:34
a
44:34
difference.
44:35
Fantastic.
44:36
And,
44:36
and
44:37
that's,
44:37
that's
44:37
what
44:38
I
44:38
said
44:38
to
44:38
you.
44:38
I,
44:39
I,
44:39
I
44:39
wasn't
44:39
worried
44:40
for
44:40
me
44:40
when
44:41
I
44:41
read
44:41
it.
44:41
I
44:42
just
44:42
thought,
44:42
oh
44:42
my
44:43
goodness,
44:44
Maggie
44:44
is
44:45
so
44:45
stick
44:45
to
44:45
it.
44:45
Of
44:46
she's
44:46
going
44:46
to
44:46
find
44:47
a
44:47
way
44:48
to,
44:48
to
44:48
be
44:49
part
44:49
of
44:50
this
44:50
whole
44:50
situation
44:51
that
44:52
she's
44:52
found
44:52
herself
44:52
in.
44:53
So
44:54
now
44:54
I
44:54
know
44:54
you
44:55
just
44:55
mentioned
44:55
you
44:55
started
44:56
your
44:56
or
44:57
you're
44:57
working
44:57
on
44:57
your
44:58
second
44:58
book.
44:59
I'd
44:59
like
44:59
to
45:00
talk
45:00
to
45:00
you
45:00
a
45:00
bit
45:00
about
45:01
your
45:01
writing
45:02
process.
45:02
Can
45:03
you
45:03
please
45:04
share
45:04
some
45:04
insights
45:05
into
45:05
your
45:06
development
45:06
and
45:07
your
45:07
writing
45:07
process
45:08
for
45:08
your
45:08
first
45:09
book
45:09
and
45:09
perhaps
45:10
what's
45:10
going
45:11
on
45:11
with
45:11
your
45:11
second
45:11
book.
45:12
It
45:12
really
45:13
happened
45:13
in
45:14
fits
45:14
of
45:14
starts.
45:14
I
45:15
feel
45:15
like
45:15
it's,
45:16
especially
45:16
when
45:16
you're
45:16
raising
45:17
young
45:17
children
45:18
and
45:18
having
45:18
to
45:18
move
45:18
around,
45:19
it's
45:19
hard
45:19
to
45:20
find
45:20
that
45:21
consistency.
45:22
But
45:23
it
45:23
definitely
45:24
helped
45:24
me
45:24
when
45:25
I
45:25
reached
45:26
out
45:26
and
45:27
through
45:27
scbwi
45:28
I
45:29
got
45:29
a
45:29
like
45:30
critique
45:30
partner.
45:31
I
45:32
literally
45:32
call
45:32
her
45:33
my
45:33
critique
45:33
angel
45:34
because
45:35
she
45:36
was
45:36
so
45:36
instrumental
45:37
in
45:38
helping
45:38
me
45:39
with
45:39
this
45:39
book.
45:39
In
45:39
fact,
45:40
she
45:40
has.
45:41
She
45:41
has
45:41
a
45:41
shout
45:41
out
45:42
on
45:42
the
45:42
copyright
45:43
page
45:43
at
45:43
the
45:43
very
45:43
bottom.
45:44
I
45:44
say
45:44
with
45:45
gratitude
45:45
and
45:45
I
45:45
list
45:46
a
45:46
few
45:46
people
45:46
she's
45:47
on
45:47
there.
45:47
She
45:48
was
45:48
the
45:48
one
45:49
who
45:49
told
45:49
me
45:49
about
45:50
the
45:50
book
45:50
writing
45:51
Picture
45:51
Books
45:51
by
45:52
Anne
45:52
Whitford
45:52
Paul.
45:53
And
45:54
she
45:54
asked
45:55
me
45:55
a
45:55
lot
45:55
of
45:55
questions
45:56
about
45:56
character
45:56
development
45:57
and
45:57
like,
45:58
what
45:58
is
45:58
at
45:59
stake
45:59
with
45:59
main
45:59
character
46:00
and
46:00
things
46:00
like
46:00
that.
46:01
So
46:01
she
46:01
helped
46:01
me
46:01
really
46:02
focus
46:02
the
46:02
book.
46:03
And
46:03
I.
46:03
Were
46:04
it
46:04
not
46:04
for
46:04
her,
46:05
I
46:05
don't
46:05
think
46:06
I
46:06
would
46:06
have
46:06
made
46:06
it
46:06
this
46:07
far,
46:07
or
46:07
maybe
46:07
I
46:07
would
46:07
have
46:08
stuck
46:08
to
46:08
it
46:08
and
46:08
it
46:08
would
46:08
have
46:08
been
46:09
a
46:09
different
46:09
story.
46:09
But
46:09
she
46:10
was
46:10
incredible.
46:11
So
46:11
I
46:11
like
46:12
to
46:12
give
46:12
credit
46:12
where
46:12
it's
46:12
due.
46:13
But
46:14
as
46:14
for
46:14
my
46:14
writing
46:15
process
46:15
now,
46:15
it's.
46:16
I'm
46:16
going
46:16
to
46:16
a
46:17
writers
46:17
conference
46:17
this
46:18
weekend
46:18
and
46:18
that
46:19
has
46:19
me
46:19
motivated
46:20
to
46:20
have
46:20
a
46:20
really
46:21
good
46:21
manuscript
46:21
ready
46:22
because
46:22
I'm.
46:22
It's
46:23
going
46:23
to
46:23
be
46:23
looked
46:24
at
46:24
by
46:24
different
46:25
critique
46:25
groups.
46:26
And
46:26
so
46:27
I
46:27
find
46:27
that
46:27
scheduling,
46:28
trying
46:28
to
46:29
sign
46:29
up
46:29
for
46:29
critique
46:30
events
46:30
or
46:31
things
46:31
that
46:32
make
46:33
me
46:33
have
46:33
to
46:34
work
46:34
on
46:34
it.
46:34
Otherwise
46:35
if
46:35
there's
46:35
no
46:36
deadline
46:36
or
46:36
no
46:37
anything,
46:37
it's
46:38
hard
46:38
to
46:38
really
46:39
be
46:39
motivated.
46:40
At
46:40
least
46:40
that's
46:41
how
46:41
I
46:41
work.
46:41
Right.
46:42
The
46:42
first,
46:42
with
46:42
the
46:42
first
46:43
book,
46:43
it
46:43
was
46:43
really
46:44
the,
46:45
the.
46:45
There
46:46
was
46:46
a
46:46
publishing
46:46
deadline
46:47
for
46:47
a
46:47
specific
46:48
publishing
46:49
house
46:49
that
46:49
I
46:49
was
46:49
really
46:50
trying
46:50
to
46:50
work
46:50
with,
46:51
and
46:51
they're
46:51
the
46:51
ones
46:52
that
46:52
asked
46:52
for
46:52
round
46:53
two.
46:53
And
46:53
so
46:53
I
46:54
really
46:54
worked
46:54
hard
46:54
to
46:54
get
46:55
them
46:55
the
46:55
round
46:55
two.
46:56
And
46:56
that
46:56
was
46:57
a
46:57
huge
46:57
motivator
46:58
this
46:58
time
46:58
around.
46:59
It's.
46:59
It
46:59
has
46:59
to
47:00
be
47:00
more
47:00
for
47:00
me
47:00
that
47:01
I
47:01
just
47:01
want
47:01
to
47:01
put
47:01
the
47:01
second
47:02
book
47:02
into
47:02
the
47:02
world.
47:02
But
47:03
I'm
47:03
just.
47:04
I
47:04
don't
47:04
want
47:04
to
47:04
lose
47:05
momentum
47:05
because
47:06
I
47:06
have
47:06
gotten
47:07
to
47:07
see
47:07
the
47:07
impact
47:08
this
47:08
book
47:08
has
47:08
made
47:08
with
47:09
military
47:09
kids.
47:10
And
47:10
I
47:10
think
47:10
that
47:11
there's
47:11
more
47:12
Maggie
47:12
stories
47:13
to
47:13
tell,
47:13
and
47:14
so
47:14
I'm
47:15
motivated
47:15
to
47:15
write
47:16
them.
47:16
Absolutely.
47:17
And
47:18
besides
47:18
your
47:18
own
47:19
personal
47:19
experience,
47:19
what
47:20
you
47:20
said
47:20
is
47:20
reflect,
47:21
Maggie
47:21
is
47:22
a
47:22
reflection
47:23
of
47:23
you.
47:24
Talk
47:24
to
47:24
us
47:24
a
47:24
little
47:25
bit
47:25
about
47:25
are
47:26
you.
47:26
Are
47:26
you
47:26
doing
47:26
any
47:27
additional
47:27
research?
47:28
Did
47:28
you
47:29
and.
47:29
Or
47:30
are
47:30
you
47:31
with
47:31
the
47:31
second
47:31
book?
47:32
A
47:32
little
47:33
bit.
47:34
So
47:34
the
47:34
second
47:34
book
47:35
is
47:35
going
47:35
to
47:35
be
47:35
more
47:35
about
47:36
the
47:36
moving
47:36
experience,
47:37
like
47:37
moving
47:38
overseas.
47:38
And
47:39
so
47:39
I
47:39
did
47:40
reach
47:40
out
47:40
to
47:41
my
47:41
Instagram
47:41
followers
47:42
and
47:42
I
47:42
asked
47:42
them,
47:43
are,
47:43
are
47:43
there
47:43
any
47:44
themes
47:44
that
47:44
you
47:44
want
47:45
to
47:45
see
47:45
in
47:45
a
47:45
book
47:45
about
47:46
moving?
47:46
And
47:47
so
47:47
I
47:47
got
47:47
some
47:47
feedback
47:48
from
47:48
them
47:49
and
47:49
I
47:49
am
47:49
drawing
47:50
largely
47:50
on
47:50
the
47:51
personal
47:51
experience
47:51
we
47:52
had
47:52
moving
47:52
overseas.
47:53
But
47:54
other
47:54
than
47:54
that,
47:54
I
47:54
think
47:55
once
47:55
I
47:55
have
47:55
a
47:56
good
47:56
beta
47:56
version
47:57
written.
47:57
I
47:57
will
47:58
see
47:59
if
47:59
I
47:59
could
47:59
get
47:59
some
48:00
readers
48:00
to
48:01
weigh
48:01
in,
48:02
some
48:02
military
48:03
families
48:03
that
48:03
I
48:04
know
48:04
and
48:04
see
48:04
if
48:05
they
48:05
have
48:05
anything
48:05
to
48:06
add.
48:06
Fantastic.
48:07
I
48:07
want
48:08
to
48:08
talk
48:08
a
48:08
little
48:08
bit
48:09
about
48:09
success.
48:10
Tell
48:10
us
48:10
about
48:11
what
48:11
your
48:12
orig.
48:12
What
48:13
you
48:13
had
48:13
envisioned
48:14
in
48:14
your
48:14
mind
48:15
as
48:15
success
48:16
for
48:16
your
48:16
book
48:17
when
48:18
you
48:18
actually
48:18
launched.
48:19
So
48:20
what
48:20
was
48:20
the
48:20
difference?
48:21
What
48:21
was
48:21
like
48:21
your.
48:22
This
48:22
is
48:23
what
48:23
I
48:23
have
48:23
envisioned
48:24
for
48:24
my
48:24
success
48:24
as
48:25
a
48:25
children's
48:26
book
48:26
author.
48:27
And.
48:27
And
48:27
what
48:27
was
48:28
different
48:28
from
48:29
what.
48:29
What
48:29
ended
48:29
up
48:30
actually
48:30
happening?
48:31
Yeah,
48:32
I
48:32
think.
48:33
And
48:33
you
48:33
can
48:33
probably
48:33
relate
48:34
to
48:34
this.
48:34
Just
48:34
holding
48:35
that
48:35
physical
48:35
book
48:36
in
48:36
my
48:36
hand.
48:37
That's
48:37
success
48:38
to
48:38
me.
48:38
Just
48:38
having
48:38
a
48:39
book
48:39
in
48:39
the
48:39
world.
48:39
Most
48:40
people
48:40
can't
48:40
say
48:40
that.
48:41
So
48:41
it's.
48:41
I
48:42
think
48:42
the
48:42
moments
48:42
where
48:42
it
48:43
really
48:43
hit
48:43
me
48:43
was
48:43
seeing
48:44
it
48:44
in
48:44
a
48:44
public
48:44
library.
48:45
To
48:46
me
48:46
that
48:46
was
48:47
felt
48:47
more
48:47
like
48:48
success
48:48
than
48:48
seeing
48:48
it
48:48
on
48:49
Amazon
48:49
because
48:49
anyone
48:50
can
48:50
put
48:50
something
48:50
on
48:51
Amazon,
48:51
but
48:52
to
48:52
have
48:52
a
48:52
library
48:52
accept
48:53
it
48:53
and
48:53
put
48:53
it
48:53
in
48:54
circulation,
48:54
that
48:54
felt
48:55
really
48:55
big.
48:56
And
48:56
I
48:56
also
48:57
received
48:57
like
48:57
a
48:58
Kirkus
48:58
starred
48:58
review
48:59
which
49:00
is
49:00
a
49:01
professional
49:01
trade
49:02
review
49:02
that
49:02
is
49:03
really
49:03
hard
49:04
to
49:04
get.
49:04
And
49:05
that
49:05
felt
49:05
like
49:05
another
49:06
really
49:06
good
49:06
success
49:07
moment.
49:07
I'd
49:08
say
49:08
the
49:09
part
49:09
that
49:09
hasn't
49:09
been
49:10
I
49:10
expected
49:10
is
49:11
that
49:11
I
49:12
didn't
49:12
realize
49:12
how
49:12
hard
49:13
it
49:13
would
49:13
be
49:14
to
49:14
get
49:14
the
49:14
book
49:15
into
49:15
stores
49:15
to
49:17
like
49:17
the
49:17
book's
49:17
not
49:17
flying
49:18
off
49:18
the
49:18
shelves
49:19
despite
49:19
me
49:20
feeling
49:20
or
49:21
even
49:21
the
49:21
reviews.
49:21
Like
49:21
I
49:21
have
49:22
a
49:22
lot
49:22
of
49:22
great
49:22
reviews
49:23
on
49:23
Amazon
49:23
but
49:23
it's
49:24
still
49:24
like
49:24
an
49:25
effort
49:25
to
49:25
sell
49:25
the
49:25
book.
49:26
And
49:26
I
49:26
think
49:26
that's
49:27
been
49:28
just
49:28
like
49:28
not
49:28
what
49:29
I
49:29
expected.
49:30
Right.
49:30
And
49:31
you
49:31
know
49:31
what?
49:31
We
49:32
went
49:32
through
49:32
the
49:32
same
49:32
thing
49:33
as
49:33
you
49:33
are.
49:33
I
49:34
just
49:34
tried
49:34
to
49:34
figure
49:35
out
49:35
all
49:36
kinds
49:36
of
49:37
different
49:38
ways
49:38
to
49:38
go
49:38
about
49:39
it.
49:39
And
49:39
when
49:40
you're
49:40
a
49:40
one
49:40
person
49:41
shop
49:41
like
49:41
yourself
49:42
trying
49:43
to
49:43
find
49:43
that
49:44
marketing
49:44
mix.
49:45
Yeah.
49:46
I
49:46
can
49:46
tell
49:46
you
49:46
I
49:46
still
49:46
haven't
49:47
found
49:47
it.
49:47
But
49:47
I
49:48
am
49:48
trying
49:48
something
49:49
different.
49:50
This
49:51
spring
49:52
we've
49:52
had
49:52
some
49:53
success
49:53
in
49:54
especially
49:54
in
49:55
one
49:55
store
49:55
in
49:55
the
49:56
Rocky
49:56
Mountains.
49:57
They've
49:57
ordered
49:58
their
49:58
fourth
49:58
order.
49:59
So
50:00
like
50:00
that
50:01
for
50:01
us
50:02
has
50:02
been
50:02
phenomenal
50:03
because
50:03
it's
50:04
not,
50:04
it's.
50:05
We're
50:05
doing
50:06
much
50:06
better
50:06
through
50:07
that
50:07
store
50:08
than
50:08
I
50:08
ever
50:09
thought
50:09
we
50:09
would.
50:10
And
50:10
to
50:11
have
50:11
it
50:11
stick
50:11
around
50:12
is
50:12
very
50:13
exciting.
50:14
I'm
50:14
curious
50:15
because
50:16
it
50:16
leads
50:16
me
50:16
to.
50:17
And
50:18
I've
50:18
just
50:18
started
50:19
asking
50:19
this
50:19
question
50:20
out
50:20
actually
50:21
Monica
50:21
is
50:22
what's
50:23
your
50:23
children's
50:24
book
50:24
author
50:25
business
50:25
plan?
50:26
What's
50:26
it
50:26
look
50:26
like?
50:27
Give
50:27
us
50:27
a
50:27
30,000
50:28
foot
50:29
view
50:29
of
50:29
what
50:30
it
50:30
looks
50:30
like.
50:30
Oh,
50:31
that's
50:31
a
50:31
tough
50:31
question
50:32
to
50:32
answer.
50:32
I'm
50:33
not
50:33
sure
50:33
I
50:33
have
50:33
one.
50:34
Which
50:34
is
50:34
the
50:34
honest
50:35
truth.
50:35
The
50:35
plan
50:36
I
50:37
think
50:37
the
50:38
plan
50:38
is
50:38
to
50:41
focus
50:42
more
50:43
on
50:43
doing
50:43
author
50:44
visits
50:45
and
50:45
in
50:46
person
50:46
visits
50:47
because
50:47
I
50:47
feel
50:47
like
50:48
that's
50:48
where
50:49
I
50:50
am
50:50
the
50:50
most
50:51
fulfilled
50:51
because
50:52
I'm
50:52
interacting
50:52
with
50:53
kids,
50:53
number
50:54
one.
50:54
Number
50:55
two,
50:55
it's
50:55
like
50:56
more
50:56
lucrative
50:57
than
50:57
selling
50:58
books
50:58
online.
50:59
So
50:59
I
51:00
shifting
51:00
away,
51:00
not
51:01
that
51:01
I'm
51:01
not
51:01
going
51:01
to
51:01
sell
51:01
my
51:02
books
51:02
online
51:02
anymore,
51:02
I
51:03
still
51:03
will,
51:03
but
51:03
putting
51:03
less
51:04
focus
51:04
on
51:05
the
51:05
online
51:05
piece
51:06
and
51:06
trying
51:06
to
51:07
work
51:08
on
51:08
in
51:09
person
51:09
events
51:10
and
51:11
establishing
51:11
relationships
51:12
with,
51:12
like
51:13
you
51:13
said,
51:13
like
51:13
bookstores.
51:14
Ideally
51:15
I
51:15
would
51:15
love
51:15
to
51:16
get
51:16
into,
51:16
for
51:16
example,
51:17
like
51:17
a
51:17
base
51:18
exchange,
51:18
but
51:19
those
51:20
organizations
51:21
are.
51:21
They
51:21
have
51:22
one,
51:22
they
51:23
have
51:23
distributors
51:24
and
51:24
those
51:24
distributors,
51:25
it's
51:26
hard
51:26
to
51:26
get
51:26
through
51:26
them
51:26
when
51:27
you're
51:27
an
51:27
independent
51:28
publisher.
51:29
I've
51:29
tried,
51:30
yes.
51:30
So
51:30
I
51:31
have
51:31
to
51:31
think
51:31
of
51:31
other
51:32
things
51:32
I
51:32
can
51:32
do
51:32
and
51:32
I
51:33
think
51:33
like
51:33
you
51:33
said,
51:33
like
51:34
finding
51:34
a
51:34
shop
51:35
that
51:35
I
51:35
just
51:35
sent
51:36
some
51:36
of
51:36
my
51:36
books
51:36
to,
51:37
a
51:37
shop
51:37
called
51:38
Hug
51:38
a
51:38
Hero.
51:39
They're
51:39
opening
51:39
in
51:40
North
51:40
Carolina.
51:41
They're
51:41
going
51:41
to
51:41
have.
51:41
It's
51:42
like
51:42
a
51:42
military
51:42
based
51:43
shop
51:43
and
51:44
I'm
51:44
guessing
51:44
it's
51:44
going
51:44
to
51:45
do
51:45
well
51:45
there.
51:45
We'll
51:45
see.
51:46
They
51:46
ordered
51:46
some
51:47
books
51:47
and
51:47
then
51:47
if
51:47
they
51:47
do
51:48
well,
51:48
they'll
51:48
keep
51:48
ordering
51:49
them.
51:49
We'll
51:49
see
51:49
how
51:49
that
51:50
goes.
51:50
It's
51:51
not
51:51
easy
51:51
because
51:51
you
51:51
know
51:52
what
51:52
I,
51:53
my
51:53
problem
51:54
was
51:55
I
51:55
got
51:55
fixated
51:56
and
51:56
I
51:56
just
51:56
want
51:56
to.
51:57
So
51:57
the
51:57
listening
51:57
audience
51:58
hears
51:58
this.
51:59
We
51:59
ended
51:59
up
52:00
putting
52:00
a
52:00
price
52:00
on
52:01
the
52:01
back
52:01
of
52:01
our
52:01
book.
52:02
So
52:02
we're
52:03
at
52:03
the.
52:03
I
52:03
did
52:04
that
52:04
too.
52:04
ISBN
52:05
is
52:06
on
52:06
the
52:06
back
52:06
of
52:06
the
52:06
book.
52:07
And
52:08
anyways,
52:09
since
52:10
I
52:10
started
52:10
this
52:10
podcast
52:11
show,
52:12
I've
52:12
been
52:12
get,
52:13
I've
52:13
bought
52:14
everybody's
52:14
book
52:15
and
52:15
guess
52:16
what?
52:16
Yeah.
52:17
Oh,
52:18
in
52:18
your
52:18
case,
52:18
the
52:19
price
52:19
is
52:19
on
52:19
the
52:19
back
52:20
of
52:20
the
52:20
book.
52:21
But
52:21
yes,
52:21
I
52:22
did
52:22
put.
52:22
You're
52:23
the
52:23
only
52:23
person
52:24
in
52:24
about.
52:24
I
52:25
think
52:25
I've
52:25
purchased
52:26
over
52:26
20
52:27
books
52:27
now.
52:28
Yours
52:28
is
52:29
the
52:29
only
52:29
one
52:29
that
52:29
has
52:29
a
52:30
price.
52:30
So
52:31
I
52:31
said
52:31
to
52:31
myself,
52:32
oh,
52:33
maybe
52:33
it's
52:34
time
52:34
to
52:34
take
52:34
the
52:35
price
52:35
off
52:36
because
52:36
nobody
52:36
else
52:37
is
52:37
putting
52:37
the
52:37
price
52:38
on.
52:38
And
52:38
the
52:38
reason
52:39
I
52:39
say
52:39
that,
52:39
Monica,
52:40
is
52:40
now
52:41
what
52:41
happens
52:42
is
52:42
most
52:43
when
52:43
I
52:43
reached
52:44
out
52:44
to
52:44
the
52:44
book
52:44
retailers
52:45
and
52:45
I
52:45
was
52:45
telling
52:46
you
52:46
about
52:46
this,
52:46
this
52:47
book
52:47
retailer
52:47
that
52:48
we
52:48
have
52:48
in
52:48
the
52:48
Rocky
52:48
Mountains.
52:49
Only
52:50
reason
52:50
we
52:50
got
52:50
his
52:51
support,
52:51
he
52:52
was
52:52
willing
52:52
to
52:52
take
52:53
less
52:53
margin.
52:53
But
52:54
he
52:54
said
52:54
to
52:54
me,
52:54
Rick,
52:55
whatever
52:56
your
52:56
cost
52:56
is
52:57
to
52:57
us,
52:57
we
52:58
double
52:58
it.
52:58
And
52:59
I
52:59
thought,
52:59
double
53:00
it.
53:00
Whoa,
53:01
that
53:02
seems
53:02
a
53:02
little
53:03
extravagant.
53:04
But
53:05
that's
53:05
what
53:05
they
53:05
do.
53:06
Luckily
53:06
for
53:07
us,
53:07
he
53:07
chose
53:08
not
53:08
to.
53:09
He's
53:09
taken
53:09
a
53:10
lower
53:10
margin.
53:10
But
53:11
on
53:11
the
53:11
same
53:11
token,
53:12
I
53:12
know
53:12
that
53:14
this
53:14
year
53:14
we're
53:14
going
53:14
to
53:15
go
53:15
after
53:15
all
53:15
the
53:16
independent
53:16
Bookstores
53:17
in
53:17
the
53:17
province
53:18
of
53:18
Alberta,
53:19
and
53:20
they're
53:20
not
53:21
going
53:21
to
53:21
be
53:21
generous
53:22
like
53:22
our
53:23
friend.
53:23
The
53:23
next
53:24
round
53:24
of
53:24
books
53:24
that
53:25
come
53:25
to
53:25
us
53:26
has
53:26
no
53:26
retail
53:27
price
53:28
and
53:29
9,000
53:30
that'll
53:30
allow
53:31
the
53:31
bookstores.
53:32
And
53:33
the
53:33
other
53:33
thing
53:33
is,
53:34
just
53:34
so
53:34
you
53:34
know,
53:34
Monica,
53:35
I
53:35
looked
53:35
at
53:36
the
53:36
nice
53:37
thing
53:37
about
53:37
doing
53:37
this
53:38
podcast
53:38
show
53:38
and
53:39
I
53:39
love
53:39
sharing
53:39
this
53:40
with
53:40
other
53:40
children's
53:41
book
53:41
authors
53:42
is
53:42
the
53:42
retail
53:43
prices
53:44
are
53:45
such
53:45
a
53:45
range.
53:46
There's
53:47
a
53:47
big
53:47
range
53:48
in
53:48
pricing,
53:48
which
53:49
means
53:49
that
53:49
allows
53:50
me
53:50
as
53:51
a
53:51
children's
53:51
book
53:52
authority,
53:52
if
53:52
the
53:53
stores
53:53
want
53:53
to
53:53
take
53:54
their
53:54
full
53:54
markup,
53:55
it's
53:56
not
53:56
going
53:56
to
53:56
price
53:57
us
53:57
out
53:57
of
53:57
the
53:58
not
53:58
being
53:58
competitive.
53:59
And
54:00
yeah,
54:01
and
54:01
I,
54:01
I
54:01
can
54:02
see
54:02
that
54:02
even
54:02
if
54:03
you
54:03
go
54:03
to
54:03
Amazon.com
54:05
there's
54:05
a,
54:06
there's
54:06
such
54:06
a
54:06
range
54:07
of
54:07
pricing
54:07
in
54:08
children's
54:08
books.
54:09
If
54:09
we
54:09
can
54:10
get
54:10
the
54:10
distribution
54:11
might
54:12
be
54:12
just,
54:13
it
54:13
just
54:13
might
54:13
help
54:14
us
54:14
a
54:14
lot.
54:14
We'll
54:15
see
54:15
what
54:15
happens.
54:15
But
54:16
no
54:16
more
54:16
pricing
54:17
on
54:17
the
54:17
back
54:17
of
54:17
the
54:18
book.
54:18
I
54:19
get
54:19
that.
54:19
I
54:19
did
54:20
put
54:20
the
54:20
price
54:20
on
54:20
both
54:21
of
54:21
mine,
54:21
hardcover
54:22
and
54:22
paperback,
54:23
because
54:23
I
54:23
thought
54:23
it
54:23
looked
54:23
more
54:24
like
54:24
a
54:25
traditional
54:25
published
54:25
book.
54:26
But
54:27
yeah,
54:27
now
54:27
I
54:27
have
54:27
to
54:28
stick
54:28
to
54:28
that.
54:28
So
54:29
it
54:29
definitely
54:29
limits
54:30
you.
54:31
I
54:31
looked
54:31
at
54:32
the
54:32
other
54:32
thing
54:32
I
54:33
noticed
54:33
with
54:34
yourself
54:35
and
54:36
I
54:36
loved
54:36
it
54:37
because
54:37
I
54:38
actually
54:38
printed
54:39
it
54:39
off.
54:39
I
54:39
thought,
54:40
wow,
54:41
so
54:41
you
54:42
have
54:42
a
54:42
comprehensive.
54:44
Just
54:44
so
54:44
the
54:44
audience,
54:45
listening
54:45
audience
54:46
knows
54:46
Monica
54:47
has
54:47
a
54:47
comprehensive
54:49
school
54:49
visit
54:50
schedule.
54:51
Like,
54:51
I
54:51
was
54:52
really
54:52
impressed
54:52
about
54:53
how
54:53
you
54:53
did
54:53
this.
54:54
So
54:54
you
54:54
have,
54:55
not
54:55
only
54:56
do
54:56
you
54:56
have
54:56
a
54:56
one
54:56
page
54:57
you're
54:57
showing
54:58
about
54:58
the
54:58
school
54:59
visits,
54:59
then
55:00
you
55:00
have
55:00
a
55:01
single
55:01
presentation,
55:02
a
55:03
half
55:03
day
55:03
and
55:03
a
55:03
full
55:04
day.
55:04
So
55:04
talk
55:05
to
55:05
us
55:05
about
55:05
that.
55:06
It's.
55:06
It's
55:07
quite
55:07
interesting.
55:08
So
55:08
that's
55:08
new
55:09
and
55:09
it
55:09
was
55:09
inspired
55:10
by
55:10
seeing
55:11
it
55:11
on
55:11
other
55:11
authors
55:12
websites.
55:12
And
55:12
I
55:13
thought
55:13
I
55:13
wanted
55:13
it
55:14
to
55:14
be
55:14
upfront
55:14
for
55:15
square
55:15
schools
55:15
and
55:15
organizations
55:16
that
55:16
were
55:17
interested
55:17
in
55:17
booking
55:17
me.
55:17
They
55:18
could
55:18
see
55:18
exactly
55:18
what
55:19
they're
55:19
getting.
55:20
And
55:20
I
55:21
wanted
55:21
to
55:21
put
55:21
forth
55:22
a
55:22
really
55:23
professional
55:24
kind
55:24
of
55:24
menu
55:25
of
55:25
options
55:26
because
55:27
I
55:27
do
55:27
find
55:28
that
55:28
a
55:28
lot
55:28
of
55:28
people
55:29
expect
55:30
you
55:30
to
55:30
do
55:30
school
55:30
visits
55:31
for
55:31
free.
55:31
They
55:32
don't
55:32
think
55:32
about
55:32
how
55:33
it's
55:33
somebody's
55:33
time
55:33
and
55:34
it's
55:34
somebody's
55:34
gas
55:34
money
55:35
and
55:35
it's
55:35
somebody's
55:36
babysitting
55:37
money
55:37
and
55:37
it's
55:37
all
55:38
the
55:38
costs
55:38
that
55:38
go
55:38
along
55:39
with
55:39
it.
55:39
And
55:39
so
55:40
my
55:40
goal
55:41
is,
55:42
you
55:42
know,
55:42
I
55:42
did
55:43
some
55:43
free
55:43
school
55:43
visits
55:44
last
55:44
year
55:44
and
55:44
I'm
55:45
no
55:45
longer
55:45
doing
55:46
free
55:46
school
55:46
visits
55:46
because
55:47
I
55:47
just
55:47
can't
55:47
afford
55:48
to.
55:48
I.
55:49
If
55:49
somebody,
55:49
if
55:49
a
55:50
school
55:50
doesn't
55:50
have
55:50
a
55:50
budget
55:51
to
55:51
pay
55:51
for
55:51
the
55:52
visit,
55:52
I
55:53
think
55:53
of
55:53
other
55:54
ways
55:54
we
55:54
can
55:54
you
55:55
know,
55:55
maybe
55:55
there's
55:55
like
55:55
a
55:56
minimum
55:56
amount
55:56
of
55:56
books
55:56
they
55:57
can
55:57
order
55:57
or
55:58
something
55:59
like
55:59
that
55:59
we
55:59
can
56:00
work
56:00
out.
56:00
But
56:01
I'm
56:01
trying
56:02
to
56:02
get
56:02
away
56:02
from
56:03
offering
56:04
free
56:04
school
56:05
visits
56:05
because
56:05
I
56:06
feel
56:06
like
56:06
that
56:07
does
56:07
a
56:07
disservice
56:08
to
56:08
authors
56:09
generally
56:09
because
56:10
it
56:10
is
56:10
time
56:11
and
56:11
work
56:11
for
56:12
us
56:12
and
56:12
schools
56:13
often
56:13
do
56:13
have
56:14
budgets
56:14
for
56:14
these
56:14
things,
56:15
so.
56:15
And
56:16
I
56:16
couldn't
56:16
agree
56:17
with
56:17
you
56:17
more
56:17
because
56:18
that's
56:18
been
56:18
my
56:18
most
56:19
difficult
56:19
thing
56:20
is,
56:21
you
56:21
know,
56:21
people
56:22
have
56:22
said,
56:22
how
56:22
many
56:23
school
56:23
visits
56:23
have
56:24
you
56:24
done?
56:24
I
56:25
haven't
56:25
done
56:25
any.
56:26
And
56:26
the
56:27
reason
56:27
being
56:28
is
56:28
because
56:29
it's
56:29
all
56:30
the
56:30
efforts
56:30
that
56:30
you
56:30
put
56:31
into
56:31
things
56:32
come
56:32
at
56:32
a
56:33
cost.
56:34
And
56:34
to
56:35
your
56:35
point,
56:35
as
56:36
school
56:36
visits,
56:37
people
56:37
don't
56:37
realize
56:38
there's
56:39
a
56:39
lot
56:39
of
56:39
costs
56:39
involved
56:40
to
56:40
get
56:41
to
56:41
the
56:41
school.
56:42
Because
56:42
you
56:43
know
56:43
what,
56:44
it's
56:44
important
56:45
for
56:45
people
56:45
to
56:45
understand
56:46
when
56:46
you
56:46
go
56:47
to
56:47
read
56:48
to
56:48
grade
56:48
one
56:48
or
56:49
two
56:49
or
56:49
grade
56:50
threes
56:50
or
56:51
kindergarten,
56:51
whatever,
56:52
when
56:53
you
56:53
get
56:53
there,
56:53
it's
56:53
not
56:54
like
56:54
they've
56:54
got
56:54
20
56:55
bucks
56:55
in
56:56
their
56:56
pocket
56:57
that
56:57
they're
56:58
going
56:58
to
56:58
buy
56:58
your
56:58
book.
56:59
It's
56:59
not
56:59
direct
57:00
selling.
57:00
No.
57:01
And
57:01
so
57:01
you
57:01
have
57:02
to.
57:02
Yeah,
57:02
I
57:02
send
57:03
like
57:03
a
57:03
pre
57:03
order
57:04
form
57:04
that
57:05
I
57:05
asked
57:05
the
57:05
school
57:05
to
57:06
send
57:06
it
57:06
out.
57:06
Yeah.
57:07
So
57:07
I've
57:07
done.
57:08
How
57:08
many
57:08
school
57:08
visits
57:08
have
57:09
I
57:09
done?
57:09
3
57:10
or
57:10
4
57:10
at
57:11
this
57:11
point
57:12
and
57:13
I
57:13
haven't
57:13
been
57:13
paid
57:14
for
57:14
any
57:14
of
57:14
them.
57:15
And
57:15
I
57:16
have
57:16
two
57:16
coming
57:16
up
57:17
that
57:17
I
57:17
will
57:17
be
57:17
paid
57:17
for.
57:18
Right.
57:18
And
57:19
I
57:19
think
57:19
my
57:19
website
57:19
has
57:20
helped
57:20
with
57:20
that
57:21
and
57:21
I
57:21
think
57:22
it
57:22
was
57:22
a
57:22
lesson
57:22
learned
57:23
for
57:23
me
57:23
because
57:24
there
57:24
was
57:25
during
57:25
month
57:25
of
57:26
the
57:26
military
57:26
month
57:27
of
57:27
the
57:27
military
57:27
child
57:28
last
57:28
year
57:28
there
57:28
were
57:29
two
57:29
schools
57:29
on
57:29
a
57:30
base
57:30
that
57:30
I
57:31
offered
57:31
to
57:31
come
57:31
to
57:32
and
57:33
one
57:33
of
57:33
the
57:33
schools
57:33
couldn't
57:34
afford
57:34
to
57:34
pay
57:34
me
57:35
and
57:35
I
57:35
said,
57:36
okay,
57:36
that's
57:36
fine,
57:36
as
57:37
long
57:37
as
57:37
you
57:37
send
57:37
out
57:38
pre
57:38
order
57:38
forms
57:39
to
57:39
your
57:39
school,
57:39
I,
57:40
I,
57:40
I
57:40
can
57:40
just
57:40
come
57:41
visit
57:41
for
57:41
free.
57:42
And
57:42
the
57:43
other
57:43
school,
57:44
same
57:44
base,
57:44
I
57:45
didn't
57:45
realize
57:45
they
57:46
could
57:46
have
57:47
paid
57:47
me
57:47
and
57:48
I
57:48
was
57:48
just
57:48
trying
57:48
to
57:48
be
57:49
fair.
57:49
So
57:49
I
57:49
said,
57:49
since
57:50
I'm
57:50
not
57:50
making
57:50
the
57:50
other
57:51
school
57:51
pay,
57:51
you
57:51
don't
57:51
have
57:51
to
57:52
pay
57:52
either.
57:52
Just
57:53
please
57:53
send
57:53
out
57:53
my
57:53
order
57:54
forms.
57:54
The
57:54
first
57:55
school
57:55
I
57:55
got,
57:56
I
57:56
sold
57:56
like
57:56
30
57:57
books
57:57
or
57:57
something,
57:58
which
57:58
is
57:58
great.
57:59
And
57:59
then
57:59
the
57:59
second
58:00
school,
58:01
I
58:01
think
58:01
only
58:01
two
58:02
people
58:02
bought
58:02
books
58:03
and
58:03
they
58:04
could
58:04
have
58:04
paid
58:04
me.
58:05
But
58:05
I,
58:05
because
58:06
I
58:06
was
58:06
trying
58:06
to
58:06
be
58:06
fair,
58:07
they
58:07
didn't.
58:07
And
58:08
so
58:08
that
58:08
was
58:08
a
58:08
lesson
58:09
learned
58:09
for
58:09
me
58:09
of
58:10
don't
58:10
just
58:10
offer
58:10
to
58:10
do
58:10
it
58:11
for
58:11
free.
58:12
And
58:12
because
58:12
I
58:12
don't
58:13
know,
58:13
I
58:13
don't
58:13
know
58:13
what
58:13
happened
58:14
there,
58:14
I
58:14
think
58:14
maybe
58:15
somebody
58:15
didn't
58:15
send
58:16
the
58:16
pre
58:16
Order
58:16
forms
58:17
and
58:17
with
58:18
enough
58:18
notice
58:18
or
58:18
something,
58:19
it
58:19
was
58:19
bizarre
58:19
to
58:20
me
58:20
because
58:20
it's
58:20
the
58:20
same
58:21
exact
58:22
group
58:22
of
58:22
kids.
58:22
Basically.
58:23
It's
58:23
like
58:23
the
58:23
same
58:24
base.
58:24
So
58:24
it's
58:25
not.
58:25
There
58:25
shouldn't
58:25
be
58:26
a
58:26
reason
58:26
why
58:26
One
58:27
school
58:27
bought
58:27
30
58:27
books
58:28
and
58:28
the
58:28
other
58:28
school
58:28
bought
58:28
two.
58:29
It
58:29
just
58:29
seemed
58:29
weird
58:30
to
58:30
me.
58:30
And
58:30
so
58:31
that
58:31
I
58:31
think
58:31
was
58:31
a
58:32
really
58:32
good
58:32
lesson
58:32
for
58:32
me
58:33
that
58:33
obviously
58:34
if
58:34
there's
58:34
a
58:34
case
58:34
where
58:34
a
58:35
school
58:35
really
58:35
wants
58:35
me
58:35
to
58:35
come
58:36
out
58:36
and
58:36
they
58:36
can't
58:36
afford
58:37
it
58:37
and
58:37
they're
58:37
asking
58:38
what
58:38
can
58:38
we
58:38
do?
58:39
I'm
58:39
going
58:39
to
58:39
work
58:39
with
58:40
them.
58:40
But
58:40
I
58:41
shouldn't
58:41
just
58:41
offer
58:41
to
58:42
come
58:42
for
58:42
free.
58:42
And
58:43
you
58:43
know
58:43
what
58:43
I
58:43
loved
58:43
about
58:44
how
58:44
comprehend
58:45
when
58:45
I
58:45
said
58:45
it
58:46
was
58:46
comprehensive.
58:47
I
58:47
think
58:47
this
58:47
is
58:48
a
58:48
lesson
58:49
for
58:49
all
58:50
of
58:50
the
58:50
people,
58:51
aspiring
58:52
authors
58:53
or
58:53
children's
58:54
book
58:54
authors.
58:55
You
58:55
set
58:55
out
58:56
a
58:56
single
58:56
presentation
58:57
price,
58:57
a
58:57
half
58:58
day
58:58
price
58:58
and
58:58
a
58:59
full
58:59
day
58:59
price.
58:59
The
59:00
nice
59:00
thing
59:00
about
59:00
it,
59:00
it's
59:01
a
59:01
la
59:01
carte.
59:02
You've
59:02
given
59:02
the
59:03
school's
59:03
options.
59:04
I
59:04
just
59:04
love
59:05
that
59:05
because
59:05
I
59:05
noticed
59:06
most
59:06
authors
59:07
just
59:07
put
59:07
a
59:08
1
59:09
flat
59:09
rate
59:10
and
59:10
they
59:10
really
59:10
aren't.
59:11
They
59:11
don't
59:12
go
59:12
into
59:12
the
59:12
detail
59:13
like
59:13
you
59:13
did.
59:14
So
59:14
hats
59:14
off
59:15
to
59:15
you.
59:15
Great
59:15
job.
59:16
Thank
59:16
you.
59:16
You're
59:16
welcome.
59:17
So
59:18
tell
59:18
us
59:18
a
59:18
little
59:18
bit
59:19
the
59:19
role
59:19
of
59:19
writing
59:20
in
59:20
your
59:20
life.
59:21
Yeah,
59:22
so
59:22
I've
59:22
just
59:23
always
59:24
loved
59:24
to
59:24
write.
59:24
I
59:25
think
59:25
I
59:25
went
59:25
to
59:26
college
59:26
and
59:26
studied
59:27
history
59:27
and
59:28
I
59:29
enjoyed
59:29
English
59:30
when
59:30
I
59:30
was
59:30
in
59:30
high
59:30
school.
59:31
Love
59:31
to
59:32
read
59:32
all
59:32
the
59:32
time,
59:33
even
59:33
now.
59:34
And
59:35
I
59:35
think
59:36
history,
59:36
I
59:37
liked
59:37
it
59:37
because
59:37
it
59:37
felt
59:37
like
59:38
story
59:38
time
59:38
in
59:38
a
59:38
way.
59:39
Yes.
59:39
And
59:40
I
59:40
got
59:40
to
59:40
write
59:40
a
59:40
lot
59:40
of
59:41
essays
59:41
in
59:41
college
59:41
and
59:42
then
59:42
I
59:42
went
59:42
to
59:42
law
59:42
school
59:43
and.
59:43
And
59:43
that's
59:43
a
59:43
whole
59:43
different
59:44
kind
59:44
of
59:44
writing.
59:44
But
59:45
I
59:45
still
59:45
legal
59:46
writing.
59:46
I
59:47
found
59:47
that
59:47
I
59:48
enjoyed
59:48
writing.
59:49
And
59:50
after
59:50
law
59:50
school
59:51
I
59:51
kept
59:51
a
59:51
blog
59:52
for
59:52
many
59:52
years
59:52
where
59:53
I
59:53
would
59:53
just
59:53
kind
59:54
of
59:54
blog
59:55
about
59:55
life.
59:55
But
59:56
again,
59:56
it
59:56
was
59:56
always.
59:57
There's
59:57
always
59:57
been
59:58
that
59:58
thread
59:58
of
59:58
writing
59:59
in
59:59
my
59:59
life.
59:59
Um,
59:59
and
1:00:00
it's
1:00:00
looked
1:00:00
different
1:00:00
at
1:00:00
different
1:00:01
points.
1:00:01
Um,
1:00:02
I
1:00:02
keep
1:00:02
a
1:00:02
journal.
1:00:03
I
1:00:03
don't
1:00:03
write
1:00:03
in
1:00:03
it
1:00:03
every
1:00:04
day,
1:00:04
but
1:00:04
I
1:00:04
do
1:00:04
like
1:00:05
when
1:00:05
I
1:00:05
find
1:00:05
myself
1:00:06
struggling
1:00:07
with
1:00:07
something,
1:00:07
I
1:00:07
find
1:00:08
that
1:00:08
when
1:00:08
I
1:00:08
write
1:00:08
it
1:00:08
down,
1:00:08
it
1:00:09
really
1:00:09
helps
1:00:09
me
1:00:09
get
1:00:09
the
1:00:10
thoughts
1:00:10
out.
1:00:11
So
1:00:12
it's
1:00:12
definitely
1:00:12
something
1:00:13
that's
1:00:13
always
1:00:13
been
1:00:14
with
1:00:14
me.
1:00:15
Okay.
1:00:15
Because
1:00:15
I.
1:00:16
Again,
1:00:16
another
1:00:17
compliment
1:00:17
to
1:00:17
you
1:00:18
on
1:00:18
this.
1:00:18
I
1:00:19
thought,
1:00:19
wow,
1:00:20
very
1:00:21
generous.
1:00:21
But
1:00:22
after
1:00:22
talking
1:00:22
to
1:00:22
you,
1:00:23
that's
1:00:23
your
1:00:23
personality.
1:00:24
And
1:00:24
I
1:00:24
noticed
1:00:25
on
1:00:25
your
1:00:25
blog
1:00:26
and
1:00:26
I.
1:00:26
No,
1:00:27
really,
1:00:27
I
1:00:28
noticed
1:00:28
on
1:00:28
your
1:00:28
blog
1:00:29
you
1:00:29
gave
1:00:29
a
1:00:29
comprehensive.
1:00:30
I
1:00:31
think
1:00:31
it's.
1:00:31
Was
1:00:32
it
1:00:32
four
1:00:32
blog
1:00:33
posts
1:00:33
that
1:00:33
you
1:00:34
did
1:00:34
on
1:00:35
how
1:00:35
to
1:00:35
do
1:00:35
A
1:00:35
Kickstarter?
1:00:37
Oh,
1:00:37
yeah,
1:00:37
yeah,
1:00:37
yeah.
1:00:38
Had
1:00:38
a
1:00:38
little
1:00:39
series
1:00:39
on
1:00:39
there.
1:00:39
Yeah,
1:00:40
absolutely.
1:00:41
And
1:00:41
so
1:00:41
any.
1:00:42
Anyone
1:00:42
listening,
1:00:43
if,
1:00:43
if
1:00:43
you
1:00:44
just
1:00:45
go
1:00:45
to
1:00:46
Monica's
1:00:47
website
1:00:47
and.
1:00:48
And
1:00:48
we'll
1:00:48
be
1:00:48
putting
1:00:49
all
1:00:49
the
1:00:49
links
1:00:50
into
1:00:50
the
1:00:50
show
1:00:51
notes
1:00:51
for
1:00:51
this,
1:00:51
but
1:00:52
please
1:00:52
go
1:00:53
there
1:00:53
because
1:00:54
Monica's
1:00:55
given
1:00:55
you
1:00:55
a
1:00:55
template
1:00:56
of
1:00:56
how
1:00:56
to
1:00:56
do
1:00:56
a
1:00:57
Kickstarter
1:00:57
program.
1:00:58
Wow.
1:00:59
Thank
1:00:59
you
1:00:59
for
1:01:00
doing
1:01:00
that
1:01:01
and
1:01:01
I
1:01:01
hope
1:01:02
people
1:01:02
take
1:01:02
advantage
1:01:03
of
1:01:03
your
1:01:03
generosity.
1:01:04
That's
1:01:05
fantastic.
1:01:06
Advice
1:01:06
for
1:01:07
aspiring.
1:01:08
I
1:01:08
know
1:01:08
you've
1:01:08
given
1:01:08
a
1:01:09
lot
1:01:09
of
1:01:09
advice
1:01:09
and
1:01:09
a
1:01:10
lot
1:01:10
of
1:01:10
great
1:01:10
insights,
1:01:11
but
1:01:11
do
1:01:11
you
1:01:12
have
1:01:12
advice
1:01:12
for
1:01:13
aspiring
1:01:13
authors,
1:01:15
how
1:01:15
to
1:01:15
get
1:01:15
started?
1:01:16
I
1:01:16
definitely
1:01:16
would
1:01:17
recommend
1:01:17
joining
1:01:18
SCBWI
1:01:19
Society
1:01:20
of
1:01:20
Children's
1:01:20
Book
1:01:20
Writers
1:01:21
and
1:01:21
Illustrators.
1:01:22
It's
1:01:22
something
1:01:22
like
1:01:23
maybe
1:01:24
90,
1:01:24
80
1:01:25
or
1:01:25
90
1:01:25
US
1:01:25
dollars
1:01:26
a
1:01:26
year.
1:01:26
But
1:01:27
it's
1:01:27
a
1:01:27
organization
1:01:28
that
1:01:28
helps
1:01:28
connect
1:01:29
you
1:01:29
to
1:01:29
other
1:01:30
authors,
1:01:30
both
1:01:31
published
1:01:31
and
1:01:31
self
1:01:32
published
1:01:32
and
1:01:32
aspiring.
1:01:33
And
1:01:34
it's
1:01:34
a
1:01:34
great
1:01:34
way
1:01:34
to
1:01:35
find
1:01:35
like
1:01:35
writing
1:01:35
groups.
1:01:36
They
1:01:36
have,
1:01:36
they
1:01:37
put
1:01:37
on
1:01:37
all
1:01:37
sorts
1:01:37
of
1:01:38
programs,
1:01:38
like
1:01:39
different
1:01:40
podcasts.
1:01:40
They
1:01:41
have
1:01:41
a
1:01:41
podcast
1:01:41
actually,
1:01:42
but
1:01:42
they
1:01:42
also
1:01:42
do
1:01:43
like,
1:01:43
they
1:01:43
do
1:01:44
all
1:01:44
sorts
1:01:44
of
1:01:44
things
1:01:44
and
1:01:45
I
1:01:45
feel
1:01:45
like
1:01:46
they
1:01:46
have
1:01:46
a
1:01:46
member
1:01:47
search
1:01:47
where
1:01:48
you
1:01:48
can
1:01:48
search
1:01:49
for
1:01:50
like
1:01:50
an
1:01:50
illustrator
1:01:51
that's
1:01:51
also
1:01:51
a
1:01:51
member.
1:01:52
That's
1:01:52
how
1:01:52
I
1:01:52
found
1:01:52
mine.
1:01:53
So
1:01:53
I
1:01:54
found
1:01:54
that
1:01:54
to
1:01:54
be
1:01:55
my
1:01:55
number
1:01:55
one
1:01:56
piece
1:01:56
of
1:01:56
advice
1:01:56
is
1:01:56
to
1:01:57
join
1:01:57
a
1:01:57
cbwi.
1:01:58
I
1:01:58
am
1:01:59
a
1:01:59
member
1:01:59
also.
1:02:00
Awesome.
1:02:00
Okay.
1:02:01
And
1:02:01
it's
1:02:01
neat
1:02:02
because
1:02:02
they
1:02:03
actually
1:02:03
allow
1:02:04
you
1:02:04
to
1:02:04
put
1:02:05
their
1:02:06
logo
1:02:07
on
1:02:07
your
1:02:07
website.
1:02:07
So
1:02:08
I
1:02:08
thought
1:02:08
that
1:02:08
was
1:02:08
a.
1:02:09
I
1:02:09
know
1:02:09
they've
1:02:09
changed
1:02:10
their
1:02:10
logo
1:02:10
recently.
1:02:11
They
1:02:11
did
1:02:11
change
1:02:11
their
1:02:11
look
1:02:12
and
1:02:12
I
1:02:12
was
1:02:12
wondering
1:02:12
that
1:02:13
what
1:02:13
was
1:02:13
wrong
1:02:14
with
1:02:14
the
1:02:14
owl?
1:02:14
Did
1:02:15
you
1:02:15
get
1:02:15
why?
1:02:15
You
1:02:16
know
1:02:16
what?
1:02:16
I
1:02:16
have
1:02:16
no
1:02:17
idea.
1:02:18
I
1:02:18
thought
1:02:18
that
1:02:19
was
1:02:19
so
1:02:19
cute.
1:02:20
I
1:02:20
thought
1:02:20
so
1:02:20
too.
1:02:21
Yeah.
1:02:21
So
1:02:21
I
1:02:21
don't
1:02:21
know.
1:02:22
I.
1:02:22
They
1:02:22
referenced
1:02:23
the
1:02:23
owl
1:02:23
being
1:02:24
problematic
1:02:24
and
1:02:24
I
1:02:25
thought.
1:02:25
Huh,
1:02:25
I
1:02:25
didn't
1:02:26
know
1:02:26
that.
1:02:26
Okay.
1:02:27
I
1:02:27
have
1:02:27
no
1:02:27
idea.
1:02:27
I
1:02:28
certainly
1:02:28
wouldn't
1:02:28
want
1:02:28
to
1:02:28
write.
1:02:29
I
1:02:29
just
1:02:29
actually
1:02:30
added
1:02:30
a
1:02:31
new
1:02:31
character
1:02:32
in
1:02:32
our
1:02:32
next
1:02:32
children's
1:02:33
children's
1:02:34
book
1:02:34
and
1:02:35
it's
1:02:35
an
1:02:35
owl.
1:02:36
I'm
1:02:36
thinking.
1:02:37
No,
1:02:37
I
1:02:38
think
1:02:38
it's
1:02:38
fine.
1:02:38
It's
1:02:39
a
1:02:39
woodland
1:02:39
animal.
1:02:39
It's
1:02:40
fine.
1:02:41
Sorry.
1:02:42
So,
1:02:42
yes,
1:02:42
SCBWI
1:02:43
number
1:02:43
one.
1:02:43
Number
1:02:44
two,
1:02:44
definitely
1:02:45
get
1:02:45
an
1:02:45
editor.
1:02:45
Even
1:02:45
if
1:02:46
you
1:02:46
think
1:02:46
you're
1:02:47
a
1:02:47
good
1:02:47
writer,
1:02:47
you
1:02:47
need
1:02:48
an
1:02:48
editor.
1:02:48
Everyone
1:02:49
does.
1:02:49
It
1:02:49
just
1:02:50
helps
1:02:50
to
1:02:50
have
1:02:50
a
1:02:50
fresh
1:02:51
set
1:02:51
of
1:02:51
eyes.
1:02:52
Number
1:02:52
three,
1:02:52
unless
1:02:53
you're
1:02:53
a
1:02:53
professional
1:02:53
illustrator,
1:02:54
don't
1:02:54
try
1:02:54
to
1:02:55
illustrate
1:02:55
it
1:02:55
yourself.
1:02:56
It's
1:02:56
just
1:02:56
like
1:02:56
you
1:02:57
can
1:02:57
tell
1:02:57
when
1:02:57
people
1:02:57
do
1:02:58
that.
1:02:58
Number
1:02:58
four
1:02:59
is
1:02:59
just
1:03:00
the.
1:03:00
Don't
1:03:00
give
1:03:00
up.
1:03:01
Like
1:03:01
I
1:03:01
think
1:03:01
the
1:03:02
people
1:03:02
who
1:03:02
end
1:03:03
up
1:03:03
succeeding
1:03:03
or
1:03:04
publishing.
1:03:04
The
1:03:04
only
1:03:05
difference
1:03:05
between
1:03:05
Them
1:03:06
and
1:03:06
everyone
1:03:06
else
1:03:06
is
1:03:07
that
1:03:07
they
1:03:07
didn't
1:03:07
give
1:03:07
up.
1:03:07
Right.
1:03:08
Like
1:03:08
you're
1:03:08
gonna
1:03:09
have
1:03:09
bad
1:03:09
days.
1:03:10
And
1:03:10
sometimes
1:03:10
I
1:03:11
find
1:03:11
if
1:03:11
I'm
1:03:11
having
1:03:11
a
1:03:12
day
1:03:12
where
1:03:12
I'm
1:03:12
totally
1:03:13
uninspired,
1:03:13
it's
1:03:13
okay
1:03:14
to
1:03:14
just
1:03:14
set
1:03:14
it
1:03:14
aside
1:03:15
and
1:03:15
come
1:03:15
back
1:03:15
to
1:03:15
it
1:03:16
later
1:03:16
because
1:03:16
the
1:03:16
creativity
1:03:17
will
1:03:17
come
1:03:17
again.
1:03:18
Don't
1:03:18
force
1:03:19
it.
1:03:19
I'm
1:03:20
very
1:03:20
lucky.
1:03:20
I
1:03:21
have
1:03:21
five
1:03:22
grandchildren,
1:03:22
four
1:03:23
of
1:03:23
them
1:03:23
really
1:03:23
to
1:03:23
read.
1:03:24
And
1:03:24
actually
1:03:25
four
1:03:25
of
1:03:25
them
1:03:25
have
1:03:26
been
1:03:26
narrators.
1:03:27
So
1:03:28
we're
1:03:28
actually
1:03:28
doing
1:03:28
the
1:03:29
audiobooks
1:03:30
to
1:03:30
our
1:03:30
stories.
1:03:31
But
1:03:31
ever
1:03:32
bringing
1:03:32
it
1:03:32
to
1:03:32
print
1:03:33
because
1:03:33
the
1:03:33
cost
1:03:34
of
1:03:34
bringing
1:03:34
it
1:03:34
to
1:03:35
print.
1:03:35
You
1:03:35
know
1:03:36
what?
1:03:36
I'll
1:03:36
probably
1:03:36
be
1:03:36
a
1:03:37
great
1:03:37
grandfather
1:03:37
by
1:03:38
the
1:03:38
time
1:03:38
that
1:03:38
happens.
1:03:39
But
1:03:40
anyways,
1:03:40
them
1:03:40
being
1:03:41
narrators
1:03:42
has
1:03:42
also
1:03:43
helped
1:03:43
their
1:03:44
end
1:03:44
up
1:03:44
being
1:03:44
editors.
1:03:45
Because
1:03:46
when
1:03:46
they
1:03:46
read
1:03:46
it
1:03:47
aloud,
1:03:47
guess
1:03:48
what
1:03:48
happens?
1:03:48
They
1:03:49
go,
1:03:49
papa,
1:03:50
I
1:03:50
don't
1:03:51
think
1:03:51
this
1:03:52
is
1:03:52
working
1:03:52
right?
1:03:53
Or
1:03:53
this
1:03:54
is.
1:03:54
This
1:03:54
word
1:03:55
is
1:03:55
not
1:03:55
for
1:03:56
someone
1:03:57
4
1:03:57
to
1:03:57
10.
1:03:58
So
1:03:59
we
1:03:59
changed
1:03:59
it.
1:04:00
I
1:04:00
had
1:04:00
my
1:04:01
11
1:04:01
year
1:04:01
old
1:04:01
last
1:04:02
night
1:04:02
reading
1:04:02
my
1:04:02
draft
1:04:03
of
1:04:03
the
1:04:03
second
1:04:03
book
1:04:04
and
1:04:04
she.
1:04:04
There
1:04:05
was
1:04:05
one
1:04:05
part
1:04:05
where
1:04:05
I
1:04:06
said
1:04:06
grace
1:04:07
shrieked
1:04:08
and
1:04:08
she
1:04:08
said
1:04:08
shrieked.
1:04:09
No,
1:04:10
she
1:04:10
squealed.
1:04:11
And
1:04:11
I'm
1:04:11
like,
1:04:11
oh,
1:04:11
much
1:04:12
better.
1:04:12
I
1:04:12
was
1:04:12
like,
1:04:13
she's
1:04:13
11.
1:04:13
I
1:04:13
know.
1:04:14
Isn't
1:04:14
that
1:04:15
awesome?
1:04:15
I
1:04:15
love
1:04:16
it.
1:04:16
Yeah.
1:04:16
Our
1:04:17
first
1:04:17
book,
1:04:17
we
1:04:18
actually
1:04:18
have
1:04:18
a
1:04:18
bookmark
1:04:19
and
1:04:19
there's
1:04:19
a
1:04:19
QR
1:04:20
code
1:04:21
and
1:04:22
it's
1:04:22
my
1:04:22
middle
1:04:23
granddaughter
1:04:23
that's
1:04:23
the
1:04:24
voice
1:04:24
of
1:04:24
Caboose.
1:04:25
Oh,
1:04:25
that's
1:04:25
awesome.
1:04:26
I'll
1:04:26
have
1:04:26
to
1:04:26
pick
1:04:26
your
1:04:27
brain
1:04:27
some
1:04:27
other
1:04:27
time
1:04:28
about
1:04:28
how
1:04:28
you
1:04:28
do
1:04:28
the
1:04:29
audiobooks,
1:04:29
but
1:04:29
that's
1:04:29
awesome.
1:04:30
Yeah,
1:04:30
no
1:04:30
problem
1:04:31
at
1:04:31
all.
1:04:32
And
1:04:32
I
1:04:33
don't
1:04:33
want
1:04:33
to
1:04:33
forget
1:04:33
about
1:04:34
readers
1:04:34
because
1:04:35
readers
1:04:36
are
1:04:36
so
1:04:36
important
1:04:36
for
1:04:37
all
1:04:37
of
1:04:37
us.
1:04:37
So
1:04:38
why
1:04:38
should
1:04:39
children's
1:04:39
book
1:04:40
readers
1:04:40
purchase
1:04:40
your
1:04:41
book?
1:04:41
I
1:04:42
think
1:04:42
this
1:04:42
book
1:04:43
is
1:04:43
not
1:04:43
just
1:04:44
for
1:04:44
military
1:04:44
kids.
1:04:44
I
1:04:44
think
1:04:45
this
1:04:45
book
1:04:45
is
1:04:46
great
1:04:46
for
1:04:46
anyone
1:04:47
who
1:04:47
wants
1:04:47
to
1:04:47
understand
1:04:48
the
1:04:48
military
1:04:49
lifestyle
1:04:49
and
1:04:50
what
1:04:50
military
1:04:50
kids
1:04:50
go
1:04:51
through.
1:04:51
And
1:04:51
I
1:04:51
think
1:04:51
it's
1:04:52
the
1:04:52
thing
1:04:52
with
1:04:53
books
1:04:53
is
1:04:53
they
1:04:53
promote
1:04:54
empathy
1:04:54
because
1:04:54
you
1:04:55
get
1:04:55
to
1:04:55
learn
1:04:55
about
1:04:56
people
1:04:56
who
1:04:56
are
1:04:56
in
1:04:56
different
1:04:57
situations
1:04:57
from
1:04:57
your
1:04:58
own.
1:04:58
I
1:04:58
think
1:04:58
no
1:04:59
matter
1:04:59
if
1:05:00
you're
1:05:00
a
1:05:00
military
1:05:00
family
1:05:01
or
1:05:01
you
1:05:01
don't
1:05:01
know
1:05:02
any
1:05:02
military
1:05:02
families,
1:05:03
it
1:05:03
can
1:05:03
help
1:05:03
you
1:05:04
understand
1:05:05
how
1:05:05
other
1:05:05
people
1:05:06
lived.
1:05:06
Absolutely.
1:05:07
And
1:05:07
that's
1:05:07
why
1:05:08
I
1:05:08
say
1:05:08
to
1:05:08
you,
1:05:08
I
1:05:08
could
1:05:08
see
1:05:09
myself
1:05:09
in
1:05:10
grace.
1:05:11
So
1:05:11
for
1:05:12
me
1:05:13
with
1:05:13
Maggie,
1:05:14
it
1:05:14
was
1:05:14
like
1:05:15
you
1:05:15
said,
1:05:16
persistence
1:05:16
or
1:05:16
stick
1:05:17
to
1:05:17
it.
1:05:17
Miss.
1:05:18
I
1:05:18
mean,
1:05:18
that
1:05:18
was
1:05:19
that
1:05:19
stuck.
1:05:20
It's
1:05:20
sticking
1:05:21
with
1:05:21
me.
1:05:22
So
1:05:22
that's
1:05:22
fantastic.
1:05:24
Final
1:05:24
thoughts.
1:05:25
Is
1:05:25
there
1:05:25
anything
1:05:26
you'd
1:05:26
like
1:05:26
to
1:05:26
share
1:05:27
that
1:05:27
maybe
1:05:28
say,
1:05:28
oh,
1:05:28
Rick,
1:05:29
I
1:05:29
wish
1:05:29
you
1:05:30
would
1:05:30
ask
1:05:30
me
1:05:30
that
1:05:30
question.
1:05:31
Is
1:05:31
there
1:05:31
anything
1:05:32
else
1:05:32
you'd
1:05:32
like
1:05:32
to
1:05:33
Share.
1:05:33
No,
1:05:34
I
1:05:34
think
1:05:34
we've
1:05:34
covered
1:05:35
everything.
1:05:35
I,
1:05:35
I
1:05:36
really
1:05:36
appreciate
1:05:36
you
1:05:36
having
1:05:37
me
1:05:37
on
1:05:37
here
1:05:38
and
1:05:38
I
1:05:39
love
1:05:39
to
1:05:39
hear
1:05:39
about
1:05:40
your
1:05:40
journey
1:05:40
with
1:05:41
your
1:05:41
grandchildren.
1:05:41
That
1:05:42
just
1:05:42
sounds
1:05:42
like
1:05:43
such
1:05:43
a
1:05:43
wonderful
1:05:44
thing
1:05:44
for
1:05:44
them.
1:05:44
I'm
1:05:45
excited
1:05:45
that
1:05:45
we
1:05:45
were
1:05:45
connected.
1:05:46
Thank
1:05:46
you.
1:05:46
Yeah.
1:05:47
It's
1:05:47
interesting
1:05:47
because
1:05:48
my
1:05:48
grandson,
1:05:48
I
1:05:49
had
1:05:49
him
1:05:49
in
1:05:49
a
1:05:49
basketball.
1:05:50
My
1:05:50
youngest
1:05:51
grandson,
1:05:51
I
1:05:51
had
1:05:51
him
1:05:51
in
1:05:52
a
1:05:52
basketball
1:05:52
camp
1:05:53
yesterday.
1:05:54
And
1:05:55
so
1:05:55
the
1:05:55
night
1:05:55
before,
1:05:56
Darcy
1:05:57
Gyant
1:05:58
actually
1:05:59
sent
1:05:59
us
1:06:00
the
1:06:00
advanced
1:06:01
readers
1:06:01
copy
1:06:02
of
1:06:03
his
1:06:03
next
1:06:03
book.
1:06:05
And
1:06:05
my,
1:06:06
my
1:06:06
youngest
1:06:06
grandson,
1:06:07
that'll
1:06:07
be
1:06:08
two,
1:06:08
two
1:06:08
nights
1:06:08
ago,
1:06:09
he
1:06:09
actually
1:06:09
did
1:06:09
a
1:06:10
book
1:06:10
review
1:06:11
of
1:06:11
Darcy's
1:06:12
new
1:06:12
book
1:06:12
coming
1:06:12
out
1:06:13
and
1:06:13
I
1:06:13
just
1:06:14
edited
1:06:14
it
1:06:15
yesterday.
1:06:15
But
1:06:15
he
1:06:16
did
1:06:16
a
1:06:16
great
1:06:16
job.
1:06:17
So,
1:06:17
yeah,
1:06:18
I
1:06:18
just
1:06:18
get
1:06:18
to
1:06:18
have
1:06:19
so
1:06:19
much
1:06:19
fun
1:06:19
and
1:06:20
meeting
1:06:21
people
1:06:21
like
1:06:21
yourself.
1:06:22
That's
1:06:22
what
1:06:22
I
1:06:22
was,
1:06:22
I
1:06:23
was
1:06:23
just
1:06:23
going
1:06:23
to
1:06:23
say,
1:06:23
I
1:06:24
think
1:06:24
my
1:06:24
final
1:06:24
words
1:06:24
are
1:06:25
that
1:06:25
I
1:06:25
just,
1:06:25
I,
1:06:25
I
1:06:26
love
1:06:26
this
1:06:26
community.
1:06:26
I
1:06:27
think
1:06:27
children's
1:06:28
book
1:06:28
authors
1:06:28
are
1:06:28
some
1:06:28
of
1:06:29
the
1:06:29
best
1:06:29
people
1:06:29
I've
1:06:29
met.
1:06:30
And
1:06:30
they're
1:06:31
just
1:06:31
like
1:06:32
you
1:06:32
said,
1:06:32
we
1:06:32
don't
1:06:32
do
1:06:32
it
1:06:32
for
1:06:33
the
1:06:33
fame
1:06:33
or
1:06:33
fortune.
1:06:34
We
1:06:34
do
1:06:34
it
1:06:34
because
1:06:35
it
1:06:35
speaks
1:06:35
to
1:06:35
us,
1:06:36
because
1:06:36
we
1:06:36
have
1:06:37
things
1:06:38
we
1:06:38
want
1:06:38
to
1:06:38
share
1:06:39
with
1:06:39
kids.
1:06:39
And
1:06:40
I
1:06:41
think
1:06:42
I'm
1:06:42
grateful
1:06:42
to
1:06:43
be
1:06:43
part
1:06:43
of
1:06:43
it.
1:06:43
Absolutely.
1:06:44
I
1:06:44
couldn't
1:06:45
said
1:06:45
it
1:06:45
better
1:06:45
myself.
1:06:46
So
1:06:47
thank
1:06:47
you,
1:06:47
Monica,
1:06:48
for
1:06:48
being
1:06:48
a
1:06:48
guest
1:06:48
on
1:06:49
the
1:06:49
adventures
1:06:49
in
1:06:49
the
1:06:50
heart
1:06:50
of
1:06:50
children's
1:06:50
book
1:06:51
authors.
1:06:51
Like
1:06:52
your
1:06:52
generosity
1:06:53
of
1:06:53
time
1:06:54
and
1:06:55
your
1:06:55
insights.
1:06:56
Wow.
1:06:57
And
1:06:57
again,
1:06:57
I've
1:06:58
got
1:06:58
to
1:06:58
encourage
1:06:58
people,
1:06:59
go
1:06:59
and
1:06:59
read
1:07:00
Monica's
1:07:01
blog
1:07:01
on
1:07:02
the
1:07:02
Kickstarter.
1:07:03
It's
1:07:03
just
1:07:03
fantastic.
1:07:04
Great
1:07:05
education.
1:07:06
And
1:07:06
we
1:07:06
promise
1:07:07
to
1:07:07
provide
1:07:07
our
1:07:07
audience
1:07:08
with
1:07:08
links
1:07:09
to
1:07:10
all
1:07:10
of
1:07:10
Monica's,
1:07:11
all
1:07:11
of
1:07:11
her
1:07:12
social
1:07:12
media
1:07:13
links
1:07:13
and
1:07:13
her
1:07:14
website.
1:07:14
If
1:07:15
you've
1:07:15
enjoyed
1:07:15
this
1:07:16
episode,
1:07:17
please
1:07:17
hit
1:07:17
the
1:07:17
subscribe
1:07:18
button.
1:07:19
And
1:07:20
the
1:07:20
other
1:07:20
thing
1:07:20
I'd
1:07:21
encourage
1:07:21
you
1:07:21
to
1:07:21
do
1:07:22
is
1:07:22
if
1:07:22
you've
1:07:23
enjoyed
1:07:23
this
1:07:23
episode,
1:07:24
please
1:07:25
send
1:07:26
it
1:07:26
out
1:07:26
to
1:07:26
other
1:07:27
people
1:07:27
who
1:07:27
might
1:07:28
be
1:07:28
an
1:07:28
inspiring
1:07:29
author
1:07:30
or
1:07:30
someone
1:07:31
who
1:07:31
loves
1:07:32
children's
1:07:32
books
1:07:33
because
1:07:33
Monica's
1:07:34
book,
1:07:35
Maggie
1:07:36
the
1:07:36
Military
1:07:37
Rat
1:07:37
is
1:07:37
fantastic.
1:07:39
So
1:07:39
thank
1:07:39
you,
1:07:39
Monica.
1:07:40
Thank
1:07:41
you
1:07:41
so
1:07:41
much,
1:07:41
Rick.