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Best of Ian Furness 10/28 · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: With Ross Tucker, host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast
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  Speaker 1: and NFL color analyst for both CBS and Westwood One,
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  Speaker 1: here's Ian with Ross Tucker.
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  Speaker 2: Ross Tucker, thanks to Northwest Handling Systems, and thanks to
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  Speaker 2: Ross Tucker for being kind enough to move things around
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  Speaker 2: for us this week with our schedule. Ross, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: How are you?
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  Speaker 3: It is my pleasure. I'm doing awesome. How are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, normally I would be out at the Seahawks facility today.
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  Speaker 2: Normally at this time we'd be sitting down with a
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks player, but they're not really off today, but there's
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  Speaker 2: no media until tomorrow. As Jim Harbaugh once famously said
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  Speaker 2: with the 49ers, Wednesday's a Thursday, Thursday's a Friday, Saturday's
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  Speaker 2: a Sunday. blah, blah, blah, with the game on Monday
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  Speaker 2: Night Football. So we're out there tomorrow. Ross is on
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  Speaker 2: with us today. So good for all parties because I
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  Speaker 2: tell you, the trade was made yesterday, and the first
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  Speaker 2: thing I thought of is, well, it's a good thing
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  Speaker 2: we have a former offensive lineman in the NFL on
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  Speaker 2: who just happened to call a game with the Colts
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  Speaker 2: a week ago. His name's Ross Tucker. So let's get
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  Speaker 2: your reaction first and foremost on the Seahawks making a
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  Speaker 2: trade and picking up one of the best, if not
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  Speaker 2: the best, guards in the business in Quentin Nelson.
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  Speaker 3: Well, good timing because I called the Colts and the
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  Speaker 3: Vikings on Sunday. And interesting, I was not necessarily expecting
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  Speaker 3: the Colts to do this already. You know, I thought
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  Speaker 3: they might see how the three games go or at
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  Speaker 3: least two of them. But they elected to just move
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  Speaker 3: both Nelson and Buckner after one game, after Chris Ballard
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  Speaker 3: was let go. You know, I have seen some criticism
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  Speaker 3: of their interim GM, Ed Dodd, some people suggesting that
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  Speaker 3: perhaps if they had waited till closer to the deadline,
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  Speaker 3: some people think deadlines spur action, that maybe they could
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  Speaker 3: have gotten more in return. You know, I think you
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  Speaker 3: could also argue those guys could get hurt, too.
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  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: You know? Mm-hmm. And so maybe they didn't want to
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  Speaker 3: take that chance to veterans on expiring contracts. So they
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  Speaker 3: should get what they could get. Quentin Nelson is probably
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  Speaker 3: playing about as well as he ever has. He's having
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  Speaker 3: a really, really good year. It'd be hard for me
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  Speaker 3: to have more respect for a player than when you
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  Speaker 3: watch the way he goes about his business. Week in,
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  Speaker 3: week out, no matter how successful or not, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the team is. And I know he really liked Indy.
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  Speaker 3: He met his wife there. It doesn't really sound like
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  Speaker 3: he was looking to leave, but I'm sure he's excited
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  Speaker 3: about the opportunity of playing in that environment, playing for
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  Speaker 3: a Super Bowl contender, and really having that type of
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  Speaker 3: atmosphere both in and out of the building because it's
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  Speaker 3: not a good one right now in Indy.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I hadn't thought of it until you
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  Speaker 2: just kind of mentioned it a little bit. Here's a
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  Speaker 2: guy that in Nelson, he actually played his college football
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  Speaker 2: in the same state, right, at Notre Dame in Indiana. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, leaving the state to come out west. But
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  Speaker 2: you played the position in the NFL. So you said
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  Speaker 2: he's playing really well. He's playing great. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's been a first team, you know, all pro and
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  Speaker 2: all that. But you've played that position. What separates Nelson
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  Speaker 2: from others who play that position?
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  Speaker 3: Really, really unique combo of exceptional physical ability. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he is a big man. I mean, he is, you know,
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  Speaker 3: built like a refrigerator. You know, 335 pounds, I would guess.
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  Speaker 3: But he moves very, very well. High school basketball player.
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  Speaker 3: I actually called the U.S. Army Bowl when he was
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  Speaker 3: in it. And, you know, so I watched his high
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  Speaker 3: school basketball highlights. And for 300 pounds, I mean, he
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  Speaker 3: could really move. So you have outstanding physical ability, just
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  Speaker 3: the size and speed combo, combined with a guy that
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  Speaker 3: has really unique mental capabilities for the position. There have
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  Speaker 3: been a number of plays over the years where you've
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  Speaker 3: seen him pick up blitzes or make up for others'
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  Speaker 3: mistakes that I would say is... Very unusual. And then
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  Speaker 3: I think maybe the biggest one for me is his temperament.
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  Speaker 3: He is looking to finish. He is looking to physically
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  Speaker 3: punish people. He sets the tone and a mindset for
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  Speaker 3: an entire line. He will fill it in great with
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  Speaker 3: Zabel and Sundell and those guys. I think John Schneider
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  Speaker 3: recognizes how much value there is. in having guys with
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  Speaker 3: certain mindsets. Obviously they had it when they brought in
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  Speaker 3: Leonard Williams on defense, but Quentin Nelson is playing for keeps.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean, that's why he's going to be a
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  Speaker 3: hall of fame player. Yeah. You know, you got to
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  Speaker 3: have it all. You have to have the unique physical ability,
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  Speaker 3: the unique mental football intelligence, but then the big one
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  Speaker 3: for me that I think really, really separates is just
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  Speaker 3: his ability demeanor, his temperament, his love for the game,
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  Speaker 3: and his love for physically punishing people. It's okay to
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  Speaker 3: say that. You're not trying to injure anybody, but he
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  Speaker 3: might be trying to hurt him a little bit. That's okay.
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  Speaker 3: That's good. That's why God invented football.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a nice game. I had a guy tell
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  Speaker 2: me when I was doing a cracking game, one of
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  Speaker 2: our guys said, hockey's not a nice game. Football's not
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  Speaker 2: a nice game. It's okay to not be nice. The
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  Speaker 2: finishing part of it.
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  Speaker 3: The whole sport, my understanding, was designed originally to be
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  Speaker 3: a productive way for young males to get out their aggression.
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  Speaker 3: Like a healthy way for young men to get out
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  Speaker 3: their aggression. That makes sense to me.
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  Speaker 2: That attitude, the finishing part of it you talked about,
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  Speaker 2: that aggression. you've been a part of a million offensive lines,
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  Speaker 2: college and pros that probably translates, right? That elevates everybody else.
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  Speaker 2: That attitude elevates everybody else. You kind of follow the
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  Speaker 2: leader in that regard.
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  Speaker 4: Two aspects of that.
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  Speaker 3: One is it, it just kind of rubs off on
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  Speaker 3: the other guys a little bit because I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: on a scale of one to 10, let's say you're one,
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  Speaker 3: you're not, you're not, you're a one, you're not.
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  Speaker 4: Really a finisher.
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  Speaker 3: You're not that type of guy or 10 you live for.
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  Speaker 3: You live for trying to put people down. You can't
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  Speaker 3: really go from a two to a nine, you know? Right.
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  Speaker 3: But if you have Quentin Nelson, who's a 10, you
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  Speaker 3: can go from a five to a seven or a
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  Speaker 3: three to a five. So it can raise everybody's game
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  Speaker 3: a little bit. And then the truth is number one,
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  Speaker 3: that guy starts getting praise for it and you want
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  Speaker 3: the praise for it. But then you start to realize
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  Speaker 3: that you kind of look bad if you're not doing that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if one guy's downfield every play, knocking guys over,
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  Speaker 3: picking up the running back, being an enforcer, and you're
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  Speaker 3: just standing there, it's not a great look.
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  Speaker 2: I like it, Ross Tucker joining us right now, right
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  Speaker 2: to my Northwest handling systems. Uh, they want to run
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  Speaker 2: the wide zone, uh, He's as good as there is
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  Speaker 2: at that. Pass blocking, hasn't given up a sack. We've
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  Speaker 2: talked about that. What about the other guys that move?
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  Speaker 2: We're assuming, and honestly, Ross, because we get kicked out
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  Speaker 2: of practice tomorrow, probably before they even do anything outside
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  Speaker 2: of a little bit of stretching. We probably won't know
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  Speaker 2: until the middle or the end of the warm-ups on
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  Speaker 2: Monday night what it's going to look like. The assumption
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  Speaker 2: would be Gray Zabel moves to right guard and Bradford
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  Speaker 2: goes to the bench. That would be the assumption, but
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  Speaker 2: we're not sure. What kind of transition would that be
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  Speaker 2: for Gray Zabel, who's spent his career in the NFL
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  Speaker 2: so far playing on the left side moving to the
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  Speaker 2: right side?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think I read or heard that he played
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  Speaker 3: right side at some point at North Dakota.
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  Speaker 2: He played everywhere at North Dakota, including the tackle positions, yes.
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  Speaker 2: But since he's been in Seattle, any rep that we
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  Speaker 2: have seen, including OTAs, rookie minicamp, minicamp, and training camp,
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  Speaker 2: and games have all been at left guard, yes. But
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  Speaker 2: he has played elsewhere.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. It is more of an adjustment than people realize. Because...
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  Speaker 3: When you're in a left-handed stance, your left foot is back,
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  Speaker 3: your right foot's forward, your left hand's down. Anytime someone
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  Speaker 3: makes an inside move on you, your right arm and hand,
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  Speaker 3: that is your dominant arm. That's your inside arm. And
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  Speaker 3: so then he's done thousands of reps doing that the
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  Speaker 3: last couple years. Now, all of a sudden, you have
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  Speaker 3: to flip it. And... The best way I would describe it,
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  Speaker 3: there are other versions of this that are maybe not
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  Speaker 3: as PG, but it's like brushing your teeth with the
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  Speaker 3: other hand. So if you're normally a right-handed... brushing your teeth,
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  Speaker 3: you can get the job done with your left hand.
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  Speaker 3: It's not pretty, but if you do it every day,
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  Speaker 3: a lot for five days in a row, you can
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  Speaker 3: be passable doing it with the other hand. And then
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  Speaker 3: if you do it every day for weeks, by like
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  Speaker 3: week three or four, you almost forget and you feel
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  Speaker 3: like you've always done it with your left hand. So
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  Speaker 3: Zabel just needs the reps. The worst game he'll have
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  Speaker 3: on the right side, if that's what happens, will be
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  Speaker 3: this first one. I like it.
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  Speaker 2: But do it make sense at all to, now they
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  Speaker 2: rotated Stevens, the rookie, and Christian Haynes, who they just
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  Speaker 2: released yesterday while Bradford was out at right guard during games.
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  Speaker 2: That was a 60-40 split a lot of times. Would
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  Speaker 2: it make any sense at all for them to think
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  Speaker 2: the same thing was able to kind of get him
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  Speaker 2: up to speed with Bradford and rotate, or do you
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  Speaker 2: think they're just going to... We're all playing a guessing
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  Speaker 2: game here, but if you're the player, what would you
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  Speaker 2: want on the right side?
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  Speaker 3: Every snap. Yep, every snap. Rip the Band-Aid off. Put
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  Speaker 3: him out there. We just talked about how It really
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  Speaker 3: is just a matter of getting used to it and reps. Well,
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  Speaker 3: the sooner you can get used to it, the sooner
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  Speaker 3: you can get those reps, the better. I'm not really
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  Speaker 3: a believer of rotating because, you know, it's not quite
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  Speaker 3: like quarterbacks, but as an offensive lineman, there are plays where.
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  Speaker 4: You're kind of setting something.
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  Speaker 3: Up for later. You might change your split. You might
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  Speaker 3: change your set. You know, there might be a good
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  Speaker 3: opportunity for you to jump the guy and act like
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  Speaker 3: it's a run when it's really a pass. And that
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  Speaker 3: might help you later on in the game when it's
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  Speaker 3: obvious pass. You really want all those opportunities to try
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  Speaker 3: to manipulate the mind of the D lineman you're going against.
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  Speaker 2: them a call at 425-255-0500. There was another move made yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Devoris Puckner gets traded from the same Colts team that
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  Speaker 2: you just saw when you called their game last week.
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  Speaker 2: He goes to the San Francisco 49ers. Some thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 3: First of all, I do think the whole concept of
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  Speaker 3: an interim GM, and I said this on today's Ross
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  Speaker 3: Tucker football podcast, is fascinating. Obviously, this has to be
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  Speaker 3: an ownership decision in Indy to move on from these
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  Speaker 3: guys and to try to recoup assets. I will just
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  Speaker 3: tell you, I don't think it's a very good opportunity
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  Speaker 3: for a rebuild. They don't have a young quarterback that
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  Speaker 3: they believe in. They don't have a first-round pick. So
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  Speaker 3: they're selling these guys for middle-round picks. I guess it helps,
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  Speaker 3: especially if you think you're going to let them go
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  Speaker 3: in free agency anyway. But it's a long road for
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  Speaker 3: the Colts. And by the way, they have one of
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  Speaker 3: the best running backs in the NFL, who's only 27,
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  Speaker 3: one of the best young tight ends in the NFL,
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  Speaker 3: one of the best young receivers in Alec Pierce. Everybody
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  Speaker 3: wanted him in free agency. So this does not feel
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  Speaker 3: like a... Miami Dolphins last year situation where they were
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  Speaker 3: going to have oodles of cap debt and needed to
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  Speaker 3: totally start from scratch. So this situation for the Colts is,
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  Speaker 3: to me, very different and very interesting. I think a
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  Speaker 3: third and fifth for Quentin Nelson, maybe. I think a
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  Speaker 3: fourth for Buckner. That's it. That's a little bit surprising.
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  Speaker 3: Because you're talking about a difference-making defensive tackle. I think
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  Speaker 3: it's the second most important position after quarterback in the league.
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  Speaker 3: So I feel like you could say the Seahawks and
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  Speaker 3: Niners both got good deals. I would say I feel
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  Speaker 3: like the Niners especially got a good deal. And Buckner
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  Speaker 3: can still play. He was having a good year. And
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  Speaker 3: the Niners desperately needed someone like him. When they get
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  Speaker 3: him and now they're going to get Bosa back after
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  Speaker 3: the bye, look out because they already had some guys
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  Speaker 3: on the D-line like Halton and Diggy Zua that were
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  Speaker 3: making plays.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt about that. Ross Tucker joining us here. Ross,
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  Speaker 2: we didn't even get to the game last week. Were
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  Speaker 2: you surprised by Seattle's domination of that Chiefs offense, especially
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  Speaker 2: Ken Walker?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if surprise is the word. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I picked the Seahawks to win the game. It felt
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  Speaker 3: like that was going to be the game the Chiefs
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  Speaker 3: would lose. Yeah. I mean, they're a good team. They
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  Speaker 3: weren't going to go 17-0. They were going to lose
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  Speaker 3: some game. And so a Sunday night on the road
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  Speaker 3: at Seattle against that defensive front, defense in general, in
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  Speaker 3: a game in which, you know, the Seahawks are going
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  Speaker 3: against their former running back. Seahawks had 10 days because
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  Speaker 3: they played the previous Thursday, coming off a loss. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that felt like it was time for a Chiefs loss.
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  Speaker 3: I would say the manner in which they did it
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  Speaker 3: was really dominant and really impressive. That's the part that
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  Speaker 3: jumped out to me more than just them winning. I
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  Speaker 3: kind of thought they'd win, but I don't know that
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  Speaker 3: I thought they would hold them to three points.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the reward is they get Caleb Williams and the Bears.
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  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is winning a hell of a high level
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  Speaker 2: right now, right? For the Bears, they get that Monday night.
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  Speaker 2: That's your reward. Hey, good job. Next up, the Bears.
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  Speaker 2: That's life in the NFL, right?
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowl champs, and that game is going to be awesome. Really,
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  Speaker 3: really looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 2: I want to get a quick thought. You've got a
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  Speaker 2: good one this week, too. You've got the Ravens and
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  Speaker 2: the Bills. Sounds like Lamar is back. The Bills. Ravens
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  Speaker 2: are 4-3, I would say. Maybe use the term scuffling.
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  Speaker 2: Bills humming along at 5-1, I believe, coming off the
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  Speaker 2: bye week, right? So that's a good one on CBS
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday at 10 o'clock our time.
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  Speaker 3: Should be fantastic. I mean, you're talking about the two
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  Speaker 3: best quarterbacks the two best teams to have not made
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  Speaker 3: the super bowl over whatever it is the last nine
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  Speaker 3: or 10 years since those guys have been there. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: they've won a number of MVPs between them, even the
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  Speaker 3: years when they don't win it, they're right there. And
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  Speaker 3: every year people kind of think, is this the year?
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  Speaker 3: Is this the time? And unfortunately for them, it is,
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  Speaker 3: it has not been to this point. And I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if this year will be either. But they are
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  Speaker 3: maybe the two most entertaining quarterbacks in the NFL. I'm
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  Speaker 3: expecting Lamar Jackson to play in a game that the
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  Speaker 3: Ravens really need now. They're reeling a little bit after
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  Speaker 3: losing two in a row in the division.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have that at 10 a.m. on CBS out here
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  Speaker 2: in Seattle on Sunday. In the meantime, let's tell folks
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  Speaker 2: about the Ross Tucker podcast and everything else you've got
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  Speaker 2: going on, my friend.
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  Speaker 2: Enjoy, my friend. We'll talk to you next Thursday. Back
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  Speaker 2: to the normally scheduled time. Again, we really appreciate the
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  Speaker 2: fact that you were able to switch it around for
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  Speaker 2: us today because we definitely wanted to get your insight
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  Speaker 2: on Quentin Nelson. Great stuff. Thank you. We'll talk to
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  Speaker 2: you in seven, eight days, I guess. Thanks, Ross.
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  Speaker 3: My pleasure. See you.
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• 18:56
  Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Checking in with our guy,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Stuart Mandel. There's a lot, and I mean a lot,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: going on in college football. Firings and guys sitting out
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: and whatever's going on. There's college football playoffs. It wasn't
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: as crazy a weekend last weekend as we had two
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: weeks ago, but man, there's no shortage of topics, and
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Stuart Mandel is here for us from The Athletic and
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: The Audible Podcast.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: Hello, sir.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: How are you? Good. How are you, Ian?
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I'm very good. We're going to get to some specifics
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: in a minute. Before I do that, let me... Because
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I think there's still some delusional fans out there of
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: two Big Ten schools, I can think of Washington and Oregon,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at you, that are looking around saying, well,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe if we just do this and win
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: out and go for this. Let me ask you this.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Is there any chance of a three-loss Big Ten team
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: making the college football playoff?
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: I don't think so because it's not a very good
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: conference this year, for one thing, and there aren't a
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: lot of chances to get top 25 wins. I think
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: if you look at some of the SEC teams that
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: we're talking about possibly getting in a 9-3 like a Texas,
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: they're going to get to the end of the season
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: and have three or four top 25 wins, which is
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: going to help division them.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: You don't really have that opportunity in the Big.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Ten this year. That's what I was wondering. The SEC,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: and the funny thing is, you look at the SEC
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: right now, and Kentucky is 7-1, Georgia is 6-1, but
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: both their losses come in conference. Everybody else in the SEC...
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: that is a potential playoff team has at least two
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: losses overall. I don't think Oklahoma is a playoff team,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: but they're at four and three. But even if you
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: go drop down, you got, you know, at Texas is
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: five and two, two and two in conference, Missouri, five
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: and two, two and two in conference. And then you
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: go up to the big 10 and, you know, you've
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: got to go pretty far down as you look at
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: the big 10 standings and, you know, Washington at four
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: and three, sure. Oregon sitting there with their four and
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: three record. But all these other teams, 7-0, 6-1, 6-1, 6-1,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: it just feels like the path to the college. A
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: 12-team playoff doesn't exist for teams in the Big Ten
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: with three losses.
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  Speaker 4: One that might is Ohio State.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously, one of the losses was a close.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Loss on the road to Texas.
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  Speaker 5: But you look at, for instance, even at UCLA, it's
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: sitting there at 7-0, and you look at it and go, Well,
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: what's their best win? It was supposed to be at Oregon,
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: but Oregon's kind of falling apart. Northwestern's sitting there at 6-1. Again,
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: chance to beat Oregon this week doesn't mean necessarily what
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: you thought it would before the season. So their best
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: win is, I don't know, pretty bad.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: And I know people say like the SEC, it's like
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: this big circular thing.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: This team is highly ranked and this team beats them.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: And now they're the talk of the town. But yeah,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think what we're seeing is with the
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: nine games conference schedule, like they're not missing each other.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: They're all playing each other. These contenders are playing each other.
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  Speaker 5: You know, a good example is Florida. Florida has two losses.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: And one was a, was a pretty bad, actually, they
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: were both pretty bad losses, low out losses at Missouri
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: and South Carolina, but But, you know, they beat Ole
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: Miss 52-28. Ole Miss is one of the other contenders.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: They won at Texas. Texas is one of the other contenders.
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  Speaker 5: So you can see where these teams are able to
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: build a resume that maybe some of the Big Ten
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: teams aren't.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so Stuart Maddell joining us. So how does it
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: change next year in the 2014 playoff? How does it
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: change next year? How different is our conversation a year
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: from now with these three lost teams?
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Maybe that now it's three lost Big Ten versus four
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: lost SEC. Okay.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: I think you have to take it year by year.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, the Big Ten was a very good conference
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: the last two years. Obviously, they produced national champions, and
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: I don't think there was this discrepancy necessarily. I wouldn't
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: have guessed before the season we'd be talking about comparing
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: three lost SEC versus two lost Big Ten. One of
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: the weirdest things about the Big Ten this year is
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: all the quarterbacks got hurt. All the quarterbacks got hurt.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: or they've been disappointing, and that really has affected, obviously,
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: the quality of play. You have, I feel like, a
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: bunch of train wreck teams in the Big Ten this year.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: Everybody's like, what's wrong with Oregon? What's wrong with Penn State?
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: What's wrong with Michigan? So it's just sometimes conference has
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: a down year. I think we'll see what it's like
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: once we get into it next year, but I think
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: the committee to this point hasn't had to place a
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: lot of emphasis on.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Those spots 13 and 24.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: When they do, I think you're going to see eight
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: and four Big Ten and SEC teams getting in before
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: nine and three ACC and Big 12 teams.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: So in the Big 12, Utah at 7-0, BYU 6-1
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: after the loss to Central Florida. Arizona, which is an
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: interesting one this week. Is Arizona-Texas Tech an elimination game
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: for one or both teams?
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: I think so, because they both have a conference loss already,
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: and they don't have necessarily a big out-of-conference win like
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: BYU does against Notre Dame. The team that's hanging around
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: in there that nobody's talking about is Oklahoma State.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: They obviously started the year with a really bad loss.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: That offense is incredible, and if they can just get
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: into the Big 12 title game, You know, they have
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: a chance to win that game. They play Texas Tech
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: at home in a couple weeks. So I feel like
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: they have a chance to build a better resume than
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: Texas Tech itself does.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oklahoma State, I mean, Eric Moore's done a hell
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: of a job there. I mean, they're averaging, what is it,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: is it seven, how many points they average in a game?
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Almost high 30s a game or something, and that comes
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: with that bad game that they had. to start the
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: season against Tulsa. It is Stuart Mandel joining us here
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. I know you wrote about
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: the mailbag you guys talked about on the Audible. Our
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: friends up here, the Huskies, they love when misery happens
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: to people down in Eugene. So what is going on
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: with Dan Lanning and the Oregon Ducks right now? Firing
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator. Dante Moore is out for the year.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a a catastrophic drop. But I'd
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: also point out, I think, and you might've said this,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: this kind of happens every year. Sometimes teams and programs,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: even as good as they might be expected to be,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: have one-offs, right?
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, teams have down years. This one is particularly,
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think this is the perfect storm where
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: they were the number two team in the preseason poll
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: as good as Oregon's been over the years. They'd never
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: had that higher preseason ranking. And so this is the
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: year where they're turning into a flop. And I mean,
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: the offense, which has been so good for so long
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: of Oregon is bad.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Uh, there's no, there's no other way to say it.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: Um, But yeah, in a previous era of college football,
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: it's like Oklahoma would have an eight under Bob Stoops
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: would have an eight and four year.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Here and there.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: You know, Eric Bryant used to have this kind of
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: years and it was just kind of assumed that like
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: that's going to happen every so often.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: Not anymore.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: If you're the preseason number two team and you start
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: out four and three, there's a crisis in the program.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: That's why Dan Lanning felt the need to fire the
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: offense coordinator in the middle of the season.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Was that a bad hire in the first place?
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: Well, I think he made a risky move hiring somebody
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: from within who doesn't have that great a resume.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Because then when things.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: Start to fall apart, people go, how can you have
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: hired a guy who was the OC at Rutgers 10
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: years ago? You know, something similar is happening at A & M.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: You know, they lost the playoff last year. They lost
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: both coordinators. Mike Elko also promoted from within, including a
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: first-time play caller at offense.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: And they're terrible. They're much worse than Oregon.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: So that's not something you should ever promote from within.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: There's been plenty of... Nick Saban did it. It works sometimes, but.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: You better be awfully sure that this person is up
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: to the job because, you know, again, big difference from
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: a previous era.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Oregon's spending $ 50.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: Million on their roster. Texas A & M' s probably spending
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: close to that. And you hand over the keys to
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: a first-time play caller and it goes like this. A
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: lot of people who don't get that money are getting
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: pretty ticked.
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• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I was thinking about this too, and we went through
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: this a little bit here at the pro level with
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Pete Carroll, but when you start losing quality assistants, it's
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: just really hard, Stuart, to make up for it. I
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: think big-time college football or the NFL as well, Pete
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: had that problem. I think that was Pete's biggest downfall,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: to be honest with you. At the end here in
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Seattle with the Seahawks, lost too many good assistants, and
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: a lot of those assistants were guys that went on
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: to be head coaches and maybe should have just stayed
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: as assistants, Dan Quinn, and others, Gus Bradley. But, you know,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: you look through that. That's also probably a really interesting,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I guess, a talent maybe you could say. Like you
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: mentioned Nick Saban. Like for coaches that are able to
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: replace great assistants, that's a hard thing to do. Not
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: everybody's able to do it. But if you're able to
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: do that, you can just kind of keep the bus humming, right?
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: Nick Saban did that at an unbelievable level for 14 years.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: I mean, part of being the pro the program and
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: college football is everybody was trying to hire his assistants
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: all the time.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: And, um, yeah, I mean, I think, um, that's hard.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: And, and I think it's especially frustrating for people if you're,
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: Oregon has the resources to go hire pretty much anybody, right? Obviously,
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: Oregon was not going to hire Chip Kelly. But how
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: is it that Northwestern went out and got a Chip
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: Kelly and Oregon promoted from within when Oregon clearly has
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: way more money.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: To spend on assistant coaches? So it just really feels
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: like a.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: Blown opportunity for them. And look, sometimes, before we go
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: writing Oregon's OVID, sometimes... Just a change makes a big difference.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: I've seen that in the last few years. You wouldn't
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: think this would solve the problems, but sometimes you just
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: need a fresh start, or maybe the players weren't responding
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: to that guy, but they respond to the next guy.
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: It's probably too late for Oregon to save its playoff chances,
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: but I think the season looks a lot different if
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: they get to the end of the year and they're 9-3.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: What's Dante Morse's Next step, is it coming back? He's
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: got a year of eligibility left. I mean, he was
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: going to be a potential one or two overall pick
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: in the NFL draft. He wasn't having a great season.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Now he's out for the year. Does he come back
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: to Oregon, do you think?
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: I guess that depends on what the NFL people still
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: think about him.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: And if he really was, you never know.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: Sometimes we go by the mock drafts, the early, early
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: mock drafts.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: Well, he was going to be the number two pick. Well,
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: we don't really know if he was going to be.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: Right um but if they do still think that highly
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: of him then how could he not turn pro right
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: um i think the the question is it's a bigger
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: question if he is falling out of that kind.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Of favor that's the thing it's like yeah i mean
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: i guess if i guess if they still think he's
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: a top i don't know what i don't know what
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: the what the cutoff point would be for him, you know,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: are you a top 10 pick a top 15 pick,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: whatever it might be. And yeah, I'll, I'll stick around and, or,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: you know, I'll, I'll, it's time to leave, but I
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: guess that's the question. You mentioned chip Kelly. You you're very, very,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: very familiar with that program at Northwestern. Well, is chip
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: just content now to be a coordinator?
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, he wants to, more than anybody, I think,
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: he just wants to watch.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: Film and game plan.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: He does not want to recruit. He does not want
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: to go shake hands with donors. And I think he's
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: found his comfort zone. And frankly, it was like that
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: at Ohio State two.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Years ago, too.
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: Ryan Davis basically just left him alone. I mean, he
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: would meet with the quarterback, and he meets with the
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: quarterback recruits, but he's not pounding the pavement. So he's
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: found a great setup there where he can do that.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: And by the way, one of the great mixes in
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: those stories of the year is, and there was a
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: good Wall Street Journal story about this today, is that
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: he goes to a big-time job and he installs the
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: wing feet from the old days. And it just totally,
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: so far, has befuddled the opponents now.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Like I said earlier, it hasn't been necessarily the greatest opponents.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: But say what you will about Chip Kelly's NFL coach,
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: that's never gone particularly well.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: He keeps doing it in college.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: It's, it is amazing. And Aiden child's having a hell
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: of a year. Uh, it feels like he's a much
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: traveled guy, right? Uh, the, the Northwestern quarterback over the years, uh,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: from long beach. And, and, uh, you know, now he's, uh, he,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: you know, Oregon state, Michigan state now at Northwestern seems
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: to find a home. What's, uh, what's Northwestern's prospects for
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: a college football playoff berth at six and one.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: I think first, I mean, I think, you know, definitely
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: need to win this game this weekend. Um, This is
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: the thing about the Big Ten. It's too big a conference.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: And that's how you get these really uneven schedules. But
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: they do play at Ohio State. I could not tell
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: you the last time Northwestern won at Ohio State. Certainly
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: not in the 30-something years since I went to school there.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: But that would be the defining, oh, yeah, maybe we
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: really need to consider them for the playoff.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: But we're not there yet.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: No, probably a little ways away. It's Stuart Mendel, Athletic,
• 32:05
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• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Cody Campbell, good or bad for college football?
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know how anybody could say it's good for
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: college football.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, on the one hand, I think one of
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: the cool things about the NIL era is that a
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: program like Texas Tech can make itself relevant if they
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: can raise that money.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: The problem is the guy raising the money can't seem to....
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: Stop saying dumb things publicly. Or, I mean, he just
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: seems really determined to be the face, not just of
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: Texas Tech, but of college football, running ads on TV
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: on Saturdays for his, you know, favored congressional bills.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: You know, I.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: Don't think he's doing Joey McGuire and his program any
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: favors to call them out after a bad loss. By
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: the way, their first Big 12 loss in over a year. Um,
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: and I wonder how Texas Tech fans feel about him
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: these days. I mean, they were extremely grateful to him
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: to come in and throw all this money at the
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: roster and help them.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Become a big 12 champion. Um, is he causing more
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: harm than, than help right now?
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: That's the thing. It's like, I think most fans, if
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: you just asked him, boy, would it be nice to
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: have a guy that's got that kind of money that
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: throws that money at the program, then you don't have
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: the donor fatigue and, the guilt trips that most fan
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: bases get, Hey, you got to donate, you got to get,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: you got to help pay these players, keep them here, blah, blah, blah.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: At the same time, I'll just go back in time. I,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: you know, Stuart, I got to, uh, to Salt Lake
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: city or, I mean, I left Salt Lake city to
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: come back home to the Northwest in the early two thousands.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: And I remember the first Oregon game I covered, uh,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: when I was working in Portland and the first, I
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: went down there. In fact, I was, of all things,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: this is name dropping. I'm not trying to, cause I
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: think he's kind of a, doink sometimes, but Colin Cowart
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: and I go down there, and we're covering a game.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: The Ducks couldn't remember who they're playing. Going to the
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: postgame press conference, my first experience doing that, and Mike
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Belotti's the coach. We walk in, and we sit down
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: for the news conference, the postgame coach's news conference. Now,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I just covered Lavelle Edwards and Ron McBride, and for years,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: even when I was working in Seattle, Don James, and
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm used to the media asking questions,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: and I sit down, and Phil Knight gets the first
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: three questions to Mike Belotti. Very uncomfortable, very strange, and
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: it was just weird. But Phil did that, but you
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: never really heard about Phil in the public eye. He
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: wouldn't make himself available. Now, we didn't have social media,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: but I always thought, okay, well, that's just Phil, and
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Phil pays for the program, so who cares? This guy
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: takes it to a whole different level than Phil Knight
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: ever did.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the worst nightmare for a coach because.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: Um, all coaches live in fear of like the overbearing booster.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Um, but I don't know that anybody's taking it to
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: quite this extreme.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: Usually you're right. Like usually they want to stay behind
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: the scenes. Um, they don't want to be out there
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: broadcasting this stuff.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: No, it's very, it's, it's, it's a wild one.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Let me, uh, before we go, I've got, I'm just, again,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: we like train rec sometimes in college sports and one
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: of those may be taking place.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: In LA.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Ohio State goes to USC this weekend. There's a lot
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: of different scenarios. USC could pull an upset. Ohio State
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: doesn't have their number one quarterback. I don't even know
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: what they're doing at quarterback, I guess, because if it's
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: the five-star, the three-star, the guy that should be the backup,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: the guy that shouldn't be the backup, whatever. But Ohio
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: State goes to USC. Let me give you one scenario.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Ohio State goes there and just blows the door off
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: of USC without Julian Sand. What's the fallout?
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Anything? Anything?
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's it for Lincoln Riley.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: I don't know if they would fire him on the spot,
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: but you know, that's, that's, he's already, I mean, that
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: fan base is over him. There's no other way to
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: say it. Like they've already given up on him. I
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: think beating Ohio state, even without their starting quarterback buys
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: you some time, but if they get blown out, I mean,
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: I don't, I don't see him coming back from that.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, that just, that's, that's the thing that's, Yeah,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: and they still have UCLA on the calendar too. UCLA
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: should have an easy one this week. They've got Nevada
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: in a non-conference game as well. Miami goes to North Carolina.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Has Miami separated itself at all from the rest of
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: the country?
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: You know, there's one where like they're the last team
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: left that really hasn't gotten a good test to really
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: measure them.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: And they probably won't until the Notre Dame game. They've
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: been awesome. I mean, people when they're saying like, oh,
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: I don't trust anybody. I mean, it's hard. They haven't
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: really done anything to say you shouldn't trust them.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: They they their quarterback is completing 81 percent of his passes.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: But I'm always leery of getting too high on some
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: kind of team that hasn't. Hasn't played anybody particularly good.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: And Florida State is 3-4. I do think they're better
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: than their record, but they are 3-4. And they took
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: them to overtime. So I'm bullish on them, but I
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: also want to be.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: A little cautious.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you should point out that Notre Dame
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: game is coming up here. I think it's next weekend,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, right? With Notre Dame and Miami.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Last one for you. I still feel an affinity towards
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: my friends in Utah. Not all feel the same way. Well,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: the BYU fans, maybe not for me. Not to the
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Pat McAfee level, although that was a little overblown. But
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Utah and BYU having to play the Holy War at
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: 10 a.m. Is this just something college fans are going
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: to have to get used to? If you're on the
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Mountain Times or the West Coast, at some point you're
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: going to be playing these really early games to appease
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: the networks?
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: If you're good, the reason that game is being played
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: at that hour is because it's a marquee game that
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: weekend and the networks want to show it. It's tough
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: because I absolutely hate it for the fans that are
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: going to go to the game. But from an exposure standpoint,
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: on November 7th, it's, like you mentioned, Miami Notre Dame
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: in primetime.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: It's Georgia Ole Miss. It's LSU Alabama. It's Oregon, Ohio State,
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: even Oregon in a bad year. That's a game people
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: are going to watch.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: So from a TV exposure standpoint, this is the best
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: possible window they could be in, especially if that game's
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: on ABC. You're going to get many millions of viewers,
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: but obviously it's inconvenient for the fans there. And that's
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: kind of the eternal balance you have to strike with
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: these kickoff times because the TV networks call the shots.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: As I've said many times, like, The schools could at
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: any time take a little less money for more autonomy
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: over the schedules. They never take less money.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: So here we are.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's never going to happen. Stuart Mandel, tell folks
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: about the Audible podcast. Great job, as always, that you
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: three do on that Audible podcast three times a week.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: Three times a week. The live one is Sundays at
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: 8.30 a.m. Pacific on YouTube at Audible Show. And then
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: new episodes on Tuesdays and Thursdays as well.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Talk to you next week.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Thanks, Ian.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: That's Stuart Mandel from The Athletic, The Edible Podcast. We'll
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: take a break, come back with more. Don't forget Factor
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Fiction 225 today. Corbin Smith at 2 o'clock, 93.3 KJFM.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: This is the Daily Power Play.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: On your home for the Kraken, Sports Radio 93. Hey, hey,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: what do you say?
• 39:33
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• 39:35
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• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Say what?
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Now, your daily look.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: At the National Hockey League and the Seattle Kraken with
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Ian Furness.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm just going to tell you right now,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: get to a YouTube channel if you can, our YouTube channel, YouTube.com.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: You can watch our live stream here on 93.3 KJR FM.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: And why do I say that right now? You don't
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: want to look at me. Well, you can look at Ashley.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: That's a lot better looking at me. Or what I've
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: got in here right now. Ash, what do you think?
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I think it's terrifying. Well, ladies and gentlemen, we're the
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Hanson brothers. Which Hanson are you? Dave's a killer. Dave's
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: a killer. I have no idea.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Hi, Ian.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Buy you a soda after the game? Yeah, buy me
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: a soda.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Hey.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, we'll have some fun. If you're at the game
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: tonight at Climate Pledge Arena, make sure you swing on
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: by Section 20, the Coors Light area there where the
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: studio is set up for the captain himself, Mike Benton. Bento,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: we call him. The captain is there. He will be
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: in full gear. Charlestown Chief Slapshot Mode. You look great.
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: I have no idea how I'm going to get through
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: this pregame intermission.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: And postgame show tonight. You look fantastic.
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: Without laughing at myself 26 times.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: You look great. But we'll do it, though. You look fantastic, buddy.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: You look fantastic. I mean, honestly, get to the YouTube
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: right now if you can. Check out the captain. I'm
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: just like, I don't know. Make sure we're seeing you. Yeah,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I got people. Now all of a sudden, people are
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: tuning in right now to check it out.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I like it. Here, I'm going to turn your camera
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: off so it's just Bento.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: What would we do without YouTube in 2026? I'd probably
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: have a lot more... This is the exact reason why.
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: Probably a lot more productive time on our hands. So, yes,
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: he will be decked out in full Charlestown Chiefs mode.
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: In addition to that, you'll be doing the pregame, intermission, postgame.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Attempting to. What are we looking at tonight? Bobby McMahon
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: versus the Leafs.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Bobby McMahon.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: How do we go in this direction?
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Well....
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: You look around at this place and think, you think
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: they show Speed Racer here? Well, Bobby McMahon's got a
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: little something more than just trying to show the fighting
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: spirit against the Leafs. He's trying to get out of
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: a five-game goal-scoring drought. I can't believe we're talking about this,
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: but I don't think it's that bothersome here for the
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: fact where you take the Minnesota game in, you saw
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: this as kind of a throwaway.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Wilder dialed.
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: In like a cup contender right now, and you won't
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: be facing them 84 games out of the entire year.
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: Beyond that, Go back to Utah, go back to Detroit,
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: take the third period, you know, meltdowns or near meltdowns out.
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: They've been playing some pretty solid hockey for the first
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: 40 minutes, and Lane Lambert is really trying to stress
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: this is what it is all about here. So I
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: think for me, ultimately, the big, big thing to prove
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: for tonight is can you get back on the tracks
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: like you saw against Utah and against Detroit? Now, I
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: think folks may be saying, well, don't cough a third
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: period lead up. Well, we had a good chat with
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: Lane about this, and it's something that I've said to
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: in the postgame show. Teams who score the first goal
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: of the game and get leads about roughly 66% of
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: the time, a little above that, Hugh Millen-like numbers here,
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: are more likely to win an NHL game in this
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: day and age. And therefore, it's a lot easier... To
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: grab a lead early and to hold off a team
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: that's chasing you down and to be the one trying
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: to chase over and over and over. Because unlike what
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: Pete Carroll said, you cannot win a game in the
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: fourth quarter. You cannot always win a game in the
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: third period.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: I have no idea what you just said.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I'm just. I'm just looking.
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: You're grabbing the phone all over the place, taking pictures
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: and everything.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: One of my favorite movies of all time, buddy. You
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: are royally distracted. I'm so distracted.
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: How the heck are you going to get this image
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: out of your head for 7 o'clock tonight?
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: And luckily, I can't directly see into the radio booth
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: from where I'm at in the TV booth. so I
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: won't be looking over at the other two knuckleheads. You're
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: big enough you can peer over. I just can't do
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: it because I'll go crazy. YouTube.com, KJR Livestream, you look awesome.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: If you're at the game, it is Section 20, right?
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Section 20. I want her down there. Two games ago,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: we had the national game. I wandered down there and
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: saw it. Yeah, that was before the other stuff happened,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: but I was down. There's a lot going on down
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: there for you.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: There's going to be a lot more going on. Do
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: you have security tonight? I hope I do.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: I hope I do.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Like, Softie always comes in at crosstalk and goes, like,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: you know, he throws these lines at movies at me,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: and I know none of them.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: That's the one movie, if he threw a line at me,
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: I would know. Yeah. I would know all the lines.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I've even seen it once. It's... Such a good move.
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: By the way, it's my first time also wearing long
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: hair in my entire life. You never had long hair?
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: I never. What's wrong with you? I have no idea
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: how you did it. You're a hockey guy. I have
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: no idea how.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Wow. Okay.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: You don't have to have always long hair.
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: I remember actually about 25 years ago, we had the
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: whole bleach blonde craze going.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't go through that. It infiltrated the NHL.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I almost did it. Yeah, I didn't do that, and
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: nor would I.
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: I'm lifeier to go bleach blonde than I am to
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: grow long hair. I don't have a lot going for me.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Just stick with what you got. Yeah, I don't have
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: a lot going for me, but hair is the one thing,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: so I'll stick with what I got in that regard.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Real fast, in all seriousness, the atmosphere tonight, I'm excited
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: to see what it's like. Toronto truly is the hockey universe.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: It's centered around Toronto, Ontario, Canada. It just is. And
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: all things NHL, everything goes through Canada, or it goes
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: through Toronto. Big, huge media contingent follows them around. Huge
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: fan base that is across not just Canada, but across
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: North America. And It's not Blue Jays-like because Vancouver has
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: a team, Edmonton has a team, Calgary has a team,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: places that are close by in Western Canada. They seem
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: 10 times over. But I think you'll have a lot
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: of Toronto fans in the stands tonight, so just be
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: prepared for that. Seattle Kraken fans, get there, be loud,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: and have fun. But what do you think the atmosphere
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: is going to be like?
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: I think it's going to be electrifying, especially if they
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: get the first goal of the game, first five minutes.
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: But here's the thing also. You remember about two weeks
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: ago when we had this whole talk about Numbers declining
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: attendance-wise in Vegas and Toronto was there. What's the conversation
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: going to be like if the Krakens sell out again
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: like they always have with the Leafs on a weeknight?
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: That would be awesome.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Want to compare? Yeah, well, and we haven't been to
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup Final here either, which is really good.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: You look great. Thank you. Yeah, I love the glasses.
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: I have zero clue how I'm going to get through
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: this pregame show without laughing.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I love the glasses with the tape in the middle.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: That is absolutely so good.
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: And to refresh also, I used to have a missing tooth.
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: I wore a denture. Can you take it out now?
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: I have a full-blown implant here.
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: The only reason this thing is coming out is either A,
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: I go to the dentist and they yank it out,
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: or B, you punch me right in the face.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Who kicked your ass and knocked your tooth out, by
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: the way? I forget.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: What if he was like, oh, I actually just was
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: walking in the kitchen and I ran into the fridge.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: That's probably what it was, but he's not going to
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: admit that right now because he's a handsome brother. I mean,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: you can't admit that right now. That's right. Putting on
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: the foil every game. Old-time hockey!
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: Like Eddie Shore!
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: They should have put Curtis Douglas in tonight with this attitude.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: All right, that's it. That's the captain. He'll be on
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: with you at 6.30 tonight. We'll take a break. Corbin
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Smith talking Seahawks and quitting. And don't call me Dr.
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: Hook for nothing!
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're the best. I love you. The line I
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: wanted to say I can't say when they were giving
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Hanrahan a hard time about his wife. I can't either. Anyway,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: we're good. We'll check in with Corbin next. It's time
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: to take a deep dive into all things Seahawks with
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Corbin Smith, sports reporter for Emerald City Spectrum.
• 47:30
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• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Corbin Smith, here's Ian. Corbin Smith joins us. Podcast is fantastic,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: by the way, fella. I listen with you guys all
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: the time. Turbo, you and some guy, Rob, Rob, name
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: escapes me.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Not really sure. Rob something on there as well. He's
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: just kind of there for fluff, I guess. But how
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: are you, Corbin?
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: I'm good. You know, you have to have some fluff
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: to have a successful podcast.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: You do.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: You do.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: No, Ranger does a great job. You guys do a
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: great job. We'll tell you about that at the end
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: of the segment. I know my friend Corbin Smith loves
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: a good running game. I know my guy Corbin Smith
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: loves the offensive line and appreciates the offensive line. So
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: take me back about 26, 27 hours ago when we
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: all got word that the Seahawks had picked up some
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: guy named Quinton Nelson. Look, I'm a reporter. I can't
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: be biased, but man, I jumped out of my seat when.
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: I saw the news that Quentin Nelson was going to
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: be joining the Seattle Seahawks because this is not hyperbole.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I think that Quentin Nelson.
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: If you had to do a quarter decade team, again,
• 48:56
  Speaker 8: I think Quentin Nelson, he might've actually been on that
• 49:00
  Speaker 8: team for a few of the outlets that did it,
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: but I think he's one of the two best guards
• 49:04
  Speaker 8: in that's played in the last 25 years in the
• 49:07
  Speaker 8: National Football League.
• 49:08
  Speaker 7: And so you're adding him to your offensive line, getting.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: To be a little older player, but I mean, 30
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: is not old, old.
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: For NFL linemen. And you look at the numbers this year,
• 49:19
  Speaker 7: he hasn't given up a sack. He's given up just
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: six pressures. He is still mauling dudes left and right
• 49:25
  Speaker 7: in the run game. The Colts, Jonathan Taylor is going
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: to badly miss him.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: The Colts' run game is just so much better when
• 49:34
  Speaker 7: they were running behind Quentin Nelson and Nala. All of
• 49:37
  Speaker 7: Seattle's running backs are going to get to benefit from that,
• 49:40
  Speaker 7: and they're hoping their top two are going to be
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: there this week, potentially, for them to run behind their
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: new blocker.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: I should mention Adam Schefter reporting just a minute ago.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: We thought initially that the Ravens had claimed Christian Haynes.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: It sounds like the Dolphins actually claimed Christian Haynes off waiver,
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: so thoughts of him coming back to the practice squad
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: are out the door. When you watch Quentin Nelson, was
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: he kind of a missing piece for this offensive line
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: in terms of not only how he plays, but also
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: in terms of, I would put it this way, in
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: terms of the attitude. We talked to Ross Tucker earlier.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: He just elevates everybody else. He's a finisher and all
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: those things.
• 50:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, look, I thought Anthony Bradford and his return on
• 50:23
  Speaker 7: Sunday kind of brought that edge to the Seahawks' offensive line.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: But No offense to Anthony Bradford. He is not Quentin Nelson.
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: And you are bringing in a guy that has that nastiness,
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: that edge, also has elite athleticism technique. He is the
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: complete package. There's a reason he was a three-time, three
• 50:44
  Speaker 7: years in a row, first-team All-Pro coming into the NFL.
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: His first three years was a second-teamer last year. I
• 50:50
  Speaker 7: think this year, if we were voting right now, he
• 50:52
  Speaker 7: would be one of the first-team selections. He's been one
• 50:55
  Speaker 7: of the best guards in the league. even on that
• 50:57
  Speaker 7: bad Colts team. So I think this is interesting because
• 51:01
  Speaker 7: you had a lot of discussion. I think we actually
• 51:03
  Speaker 7: talked about this last week that, and I still was wondering, would.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: They go out and try to add to their backfield?
• 51:09
  Speaker 7: But this clearly was John Schneider saying, Hey, we, we
• 51:13
  Speaker 7: think that the biggest thing that's going to move the
• 51:16
  Speaker 7: needle for us is if we go get the best
• 51:18
  Speaker 7: run blocking guard in the NFL and add into our
• 51:22
  Speaker 7: offensive line and then slide Gray's able over to the
• 51:25
  Speaker 7: right side at right guard and and we're going to
• 51:27
  Speaker 7: plug him in, and we're going to run behind Quentin Nelson,
• 51:30
  Speaker 7: and that should make all of our running backs on
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: the roster better. Yeah, we talked about it a little
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: bit earlier with Ross Tucker as well about this and
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: discussed it on the radio station the last two days.
• 51:40
  Speaker 7: You guys have done the podcast as well, I know.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: One of the things that when this happens, you're like, okay,
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: well now you've got this It's funny because two weeks
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: ago when Bradford was hurt, you didn't have a right guard.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: You were rotating a guy that's now been released and
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: picked up by Miami and a rookie who doesn't look
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: like he's quite ready for prime time yet in Stevens.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: Now you've got three guards that are all capable starters
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: in Nelson more than capable. That's a massive understatement, Ian.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: But Nelson, obviously, then Gray Zabel, a first-round draft pick,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: and Anthony Bradford. We won't know. I mentioned this earlier.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Greg and I were talking about this. We don't have
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: the ability to see any practice this time of the year.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: And I can't imagine any way, shape, or form Mike
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: McDonald going, yeah, we're going to do this, this, and
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: this tomorrow. I'm sure he'll dance around that quite a bit.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: So we won't know until warm-ups on Monday, but is
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: there any doubt in your mind that you're going to
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: see Nelson at left guard and Zabel at right guard
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: with the first-team offense? That is exactly what it is
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: going to be.
• 52:39
  Speaker 7: I have talked to a few people in the last
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: 24 hours that are in the know. Gray Zabel is
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: going to be going to right guard. And for those
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: that were speculating, maybe Zabel would go to center. That
• 52:49
  Speaker 7: was never in consideration when this move was made. For one,
• 52:54
  Speaker 7: because they really like Jalen Sundell and think he's doing
• 52:57
  Speaker 7: a great job. But two, and you know this being
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: somebody that has a son that played college football as
• 53:02
  Speaker 7: an offensive lineman, the center position is so difficult to
• 53:09
  Speaker 7: adjust to, to acclimate to.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: And doing that in the middle of the.
• 53:17
  Speaker 7: Regular season when you don't have a bye week that's
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: coming up is just incredibly risky. And there's no way
• 53:25
  Speaker 7: they were going to do that with a guy that
• 53:26
  Speaker 7: had 17 snaps at center in college. Like there's just
• 53:30
  Speaker 7: no way they were going to do that. So center's
• 53:33
  Speaker 7: not on the table for those speculating that maybe.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: He replaces Charles Cross for a few games.
• 53:38
  Speaker 7: They're not going to be doing that and sliding him
• 53:40
  Speaker 7: out to left tackle either, though he played.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: That a lot in college. They're not going to be
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: doing that either.
• 53:45
  Speaker 7: So And Anthony Bradford, unfortunately, is going to be the
• 53:49
  Speaker 7: odd man out in this particular instance. And that's just
• 53:52
  Speaker 7: the way it goes when you upgrade your roster sometimes.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: That's a hell of a backup, though.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: It really is. That's a hell of a backup guard
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: when it's all said and done. Well, I think, too,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: like what you said, there's a lot of things that
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: go into this. First of all, you know, we've been
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: out there a lot, the two of us, Greg, over
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: the last two years since Zabel got drafted. We've never
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: seen him on the outside. He's been on the inside
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: the entire time and, by and large, at left guard.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: We all know he played tackle in college, but Seattle
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: didn't draft him to be a tackle. That was never
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: the plan for Zabel to be a tackle. The center position,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: we talked about it yesterday at Kiefer on the Air.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: You're not doing that. In one week, you're not going to...
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: First of all, what does that say about Sundell? Sundell's
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: been fine. That has not been an issue. He may
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: not be an all-pro, and he may not go to
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame, but Sundell's been perfectly serviceable at center,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: and that position requires such a different skill set you
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: can move guards from right to left. And even that,
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Ross Tucker said it, Kiefer said it, a lot of
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: people said it. Even that, there's a change, you know,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: like where your foot is, which hand's on the ground,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: things like that. This is the least of the issues
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: to move your starting left guard, who's a second-year player,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: to right guard and bring in a future Hall of
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Famer at left guard, especially when you've got Josh Jones
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: starting for cross.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Like, it just.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: Any talk of something else was just kind of ridiculous.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I.
• 55:12
  Speaker 7: Being my job, of course, I had to explore all
• 55:14
  Speaker 7: these alternatives, but I made it very clear in my
• 55:17
  Speaker 7: article that I posted on Emerald City Spectrum last night that,
• 55:21
  Speaker 7: you know, the idea that the Seahawks don't believe.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: In Josh Jones, who started.
• 55:26
  Speaker 7: three games the end of last year for Charles Cross
• 55:28
  Speaker 7: and played really well.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: There was no way they were going to move Zabel
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 55:33
  Speaker 7: And I think if we were looking, I'd be a
• 55:35
  Speaker 7: little more fascinated by the center thing if this was
• 55:38
  Speaker 7: an off-season move.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Because then you would have had.
• 55:41
  Speaker 7: The entire off-season to work with Gray Zabel at center,
• 55:44
  Speaker 7: and you could potentially have Bradford at right guard and
• 55:49
  Speaker 7: Nelson at left guard, and that could be your interior line.
• 55:52
  Speaker 7: But that's not where we're at. You know, even if
• 55:55
  Speaker 7: they had a bye week, that might give you a
• 55:57
  Speaker 7: little more cushion. But at the same time, again, Zabel's
• 55:59
  Speaker 7: played 17 snaps of center in his life. You're not
• 56:04
  Speaker 7: going to move him to that position in the middle
• 56:07
  Speaker 7: of the season when you have a perfectly serviceable starter.
• 56:11
  Speaker 7: Like if they had a really bad starting situation, like
• 56:14
  Speaker 7: if this was Drew Nowak again playing center, then I
• 56:17
  Speaker 7: would be like, look, then maybe we can do this
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: because it's worth the risk. But Jalen Sundell right now,
• 56:24
  Speaker 7: by most metrics, is a top 10, top 12 caliber center.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: So you're not going to be doing anything on that front.
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: He's going to be very happily settling in at right guard,
• 56:34
  Speaker 7: and I have no concerns that.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: He's going to be able to do that. I think
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: it's also safe to say this means that Bradford's not
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: going to get re-signed. And I bring that up for
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: this reason. Nelson's a free agent after this year as well.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: If we want to look at how it's worked with
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Schneider recently, this is the fourth year that he's made
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: a significant in-season trade. Leonard Williams, Ernest Jones, Rashid Shaheed,
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: all those guys have been re-signed. You're not going to
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: spend that kind of money when you've got Zabel on
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: a rookie contract because Bradford's going to cost a few
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: pennies because the plan has to be that you're going
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: to keep Quentin Nelson down, especially with the draft capital
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: you got, or you gave up.
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Jalen Sundell's going to be a restricted free agent,
• 57:13
  Speaker 7: which keeping him around is going to be much easier
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: more inexpensive than if you tried to resign Bradford and Nelson.
• 57:20
  Speaker 7: I mean, they're not going to be bringing both those
• 57:21
  Speaker 7: guys back, but you look at the track record, as
• 57:24
  Speaker 7: you mentioned, John Schneider does not make these kinds of deals.
• 57:28
  Speaker 7: Like he's not going to rush to extend a player.
• 57:31
  Speaker 7: He wants to see how Nelson fits and sees how
• 57:34
  Speaker 7: things work out. But you know, giving up a third
• 57:38
  Speaker 7: is not, is not nothing. So he is not, he
• 57:41
  Speaker 7: is not going to go into this process. I don't
• 57:46
  Speaker 7: think he makes a trade like this. If he doesn't
• 57:48
  Speaker 7: think there's a way that they can keep the player
• 57:50
  Speaker 7: around long-term it's, it's very similar to Leonard Williams a.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Couple of years ago.
• 57:55
  Speaker 7: And you look at their situation with a salary cap
• 57:58
  Speaker 7: in like Right now, over the cap has them a
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: little over $ 30 million in cap space. But you look
• 58:03
  Speaker 7: at the free agents they have, the only real big
• 58:06
  Speaker 7: names for understated free agents that they have, I mean,
• 58:08
  Speaker 7: they got to figure out what they're going to do
• 58:09
  Speaker 7: with Zach Charbonnet and Achenonuosu. Bradford, now you're assuming, is
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: not going to be back. And after that, it's just
• 58:17
  Speaker 7: a bunch of, you know, low-level players for the most part. Like,
• 58:21
  Speaker 7: they don't have– that's, you know, credit to John Schneider
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: going out and making all the signings that he did
• 58:26
  Speaker 7: this offseason with star players– they are in a position
• 58:30
  Speaker 7: where they gave themselves the flexibility if they brought in
• 58:33
  Speaker 7: somebody like a Quentin Nelson that they could find a
• 58:36
  Speaker 7: way to get him on the books and be able
• 58:38
  Speaker 7: to sign him long-term. So I would, you know, if
• 58:41
  Speaker 7: I'm making a prediction right now, I think he's here
• 58:43
  Speaker 7: in 2027 and beyond. I don't think this is a rental,
• 58:46
  Speaker 7: but they're not going to be making that extension right now, obviously.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: No, I would agree. It is our good friend, Corbin Smith,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: joining us, and we'll see Spectrum and Triple Option CX
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: podcast as well. So that game on Sunday was something else.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: But hey, here's the treat. Now you get to crank
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: it up for the Chicago Bears on Monday Night Football.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: And this Bears team looks like they're humming along pretty good.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: That's a pretty good off Another good test for a
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Seahawks defense that passed with flying colors last week.
• 59:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's going to be crazy saying this because
• 59:19
  Speaker 7: Ken Walker III was leading the NFL in rushing going
• 59:21
  Speaker 7: into this game, but I think this is the hardest
• 59:24
  Speaker 7: test that Mike McDonald will have all year in terms
• 59:28
  Speaker 7: of defending the run. Because Ben Johnson schemes up the
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: run game better than anybody. I'm going to admit this.
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: I have an obsession with watching the Chicago Bears run game.
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: It is my favorite to watch in the NFL. I
• 59:44
  Speaker 7: loved Ben Johnson's run game in Detroit before that.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: They mix in their gap and their zone schemes.
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: And he does such a good job of creating havoc
• 59:54
  Speaker 7: with gaps. And so it is going to be a
• 59:57
  Speaker 7: whole other test for this Seahawks defense. Now, they showed
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 7: this last week, like, hey, we're at another level when
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 7: it comes to stopping the run here with the dark side.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 7: But this is going to be the stiffest test they
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 7: face all year in terms of trying to slow down
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 7: a run game.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: And that is such a big part of what the
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Bears do offensively.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 7: And it fits with Caleb Williams' mobility in the run
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 7: game as well as the quarterback position. And that just
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 7: makes them a major problem to deal with when they're humming.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious what that offense, I mean, if you
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: just want to, and you nerd out with this stuff,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is as good a matchup coaching-wise as
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: you could get, right? You've got Ben Johnson, the offensive guru,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: against Mike McDonald, the defensive guru, right? I mean, that's
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: as good as it gets. That's exactly what you want
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: to see. This is the get your popcorn ready coaching matchup.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: It really is.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 7: And you get two guys that it's funny because I
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 7: don't think anybody knew what Ben Johnson really was until
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 7: he became a head coach. But like you, you've got
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 7: a coach like Mike McDonald has bravado in his own way.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 7: But Ben Johnson, like you're certainly not going to hear
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 7: Mike McDonald say F the Packers or whatever in the
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 7: locker room. Like Ben Johnson's just got a he's got
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 7: a different type of bravado.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: In his team. His team plays that way.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 7: So both these coaches have their teams fully bought in
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 7: and they represent the coach that is at the head
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 7: of the sideline.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: I just I think this is going to be a
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: really fun matchup.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 7: I'm very excited to see it from the coaching angle. I, I, it's,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 7: I'll go back to the other side of the running
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 7: backs for a second.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: So Charbonnet, we expect to see him this week, right?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Enough's enough. He's going to play. He's got to play
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: this week.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 7: I think that they were just, Hey, look, you know, we're,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 7: we're going to just play this out. We had to
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 7: put him on the roster because of legal rules. We're
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 7: going to, we're going to let him get another full
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 7: week of practice.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: But I think when you've had two full weeks of
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: full participant, at practice.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 7: And just, I'm just telling you for my eye test
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 7: and being a guy that knows running backs and haven't
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 7: played the position, like he looks ready to me when,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 7: when I've watched him run through the gauntlet and some
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 7: of the other stuff, like he looks ready to play.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 7: And that was one and a half, two weeks ago
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 7: when I saw that. So I expect that he's going
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 7: to be out there. And I think Jadarian Price could
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 7: be potentially out there after only returning to practice for
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 7: a few days because of the injury he's coming off of.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: It's not like he's coming off of a knee injury
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: like Charbonnet is. A chest issue, if it's healed, he's
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: been running, you can get that guy up to speed
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: much quicker.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 7: So they could have both their guys potentially on Monday night.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: It's going to be absolutely huge in so many ways.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: What did you make of the 49ers trade for Buckner?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 7: That was a really, really good secondary trade to follow
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 7: up with the Seahawks did with, with Quentin Nelson. And
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 7: those guys were teammates. Now they're going to be going
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 7: against each other. I think that that was exactly what
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 7: the 49ers needed to do. Now, maybe they go out
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 7: and look for some receiving help because the injuries they've
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 7: got at that spot. I wouldn't be surprised if San
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 7: Francisco makes another move here before the deadline, but, uh,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 7: as the saying goes, the best come to the NFC West, man,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 7: the arms races that they have in this division, they
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 7: just don't do them better in any other division than
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 7: the NFC West.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Uh, let's talk about podcasts and Emerald city spectrum, my friend.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 7: Seahawks triple option. We're rolling six, seven days a week. Uh,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 7: Robert Turbin, Rob rang myself. Uh, Nick Lee has been
• 1:03:35
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• 1:03:37
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• 1:03:40
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• 1:03:44
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• 1:03:46
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• 1:03:49
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• 1:03:51
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• 1:03:53
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• 1:03:58
  Speaker 7: Run the seahawks triple option with us yeah i'd go
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 7: back and take a listen last night as well uh
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 7: significant move and i guess we can just go ahead
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 7: look we get the uh the bronze uh you know
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 7: face and statue made up for schneider right now for
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  Speaker 7: the hall of fame at some point i mean this
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  Speaker 7: guy just keeps pulling it off doesn't he he does
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  Speaker 7: and really mentioned it last night on the pod man
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  Speaker 7: i what really separates him is these trade deadline moves.
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  Speaker 7: He is just, he is on another level when you
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  Speaker 7: look at what he's done. And this is, this is
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  Speaker 7: not just a four year run in that regard. Like
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  Speaker 7: think about even when he's traded players away, how Russell Wilson,
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  Speaker 7: DK Metcalf, Gino Smith.
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  Speaker 2: How those moves have worked.
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  Speaker 7: Like when it comes to trading, like if I was
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  Speaker 7: another general manager of John Schneider's calling, it's not disrespectful,
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  Speaker 7: but I'm not, I'm not picking up.
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  Speaker 2: Like I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, your assistant comes in. John Schneider from Seattle is
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  Speaker 2: on line one. Yeah, that's fine.
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  Speaker 3: That's good.
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  Speaker 2: Just tell him I'm not here. I'm having lunch. That's
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  Speaker 2: exactly what I would do. I got stuff going on
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  Speaker 2: right now, and it includes not talking to John Schneider
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  Speaker 2: is what it is. And not getting stolen from.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Great stuff. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks, Corbin.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks, Ian.
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  Speaker 2: That's Corbin Smith, Emerald Sea Spectrum, CX Triple Option Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: It's a great podcast. Go check it out. You can
• 1:05:16
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• 1:05:18
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• 1:05:21
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