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Indiana-Kennesaw State Preview with Grant Shouse & Mike Hutsell (2.19.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're listening to the central Indiana Sports Report with your host, Greg Midgowns.
• 0:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome, who's your fans to the central Indiana Sports Report and our IU Kinesaw State Preview for Saturday.
• 0:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm joined by Grant Shows and Mike Hutzl.
• 0:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's talk about Kinesaw State a little bit.
• 0:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Grant, what have you learned about the owls?
• 0:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: little nugget here, and if you don't know this, then you're probably not an IU fan, listening to this.
• 0:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the president of Indiana University panel of Whitton came to Indiana by way of Kenneth Hall State.
• 0:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: They played each other in basketball for a few years now.
• 1:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: They've come to Assembly Hall.
• 1:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: And on top of it, they have former IU quarterback at the helm of their offense, named Dexter Williams.
• 1:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Dexter Williams was a fun player to watch.
• 1:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: He single-handedly willed Indiana to a huge win in the old brass between game back in 2022 in double over time.
• 1:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I actually went back and rewatched the end of that the other day.
• 1:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he was so crucial for them in that game.
• 1:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Indiana fans have always been good at players that have left.
• 1:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: and then you know go on to other places and try and be successful and it certainly helps that he's coming back in a place where he was a part of the program during what was a dark time, you know, just was not a very good time in Indiana football and actually was sideline for the entire 20, 23 seasons.
• 2:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he was with the program in Tom Allen's last year
• 2:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: but he was hurt.
• 2:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he actually was kind of made a not technically, but this was kind of his role was a graduate assistant.
• 2:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was there, he learned under Coach Allen for that final year at Indiana and then he left and went to Georgia State or Georgia Southern.
• 2:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was Georgia Southern.
• 2:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then moves on to Canada's last day.
• 2:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it'll be good to have him back and to answer your question, what we do know about them is that
• 2:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: They are similar to old dominion in a way where they have a quarterback with speed.
• 2:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: They have a quarterback that can run.
• 2:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's concerning coming in.
• 2:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Especially when we saw how Indiana really had a hard time defending the quarterback draw in the quarterback keeper last week.
• 2:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was evident on the first play from scrimmage.
• 2:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be interesting to see how they've cleaned that up during the week.
• 2:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think they have, I think they will.
• 3:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's a concern going in.
• 3:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: another concern they have a really quick wide receiver and they're going to get the ball to him a lot he's dexter Williams is going to throw in the ball a lot so and he has got to be able to cover up receivers that get to be able to stop the run typical normal game things but i think the thing that in the mic we're talking about this here a minute ago is that
• 3:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: you want Indiana so bad to come out and have a game where they win 56 to nothing or 56 seven something like a Nebraska game asks score from last year you want them to be able to dominate the game where not only does it show it on the field but it shows on the scoreboard as well so
• 3:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think you're a little, I think I'm a little, I think everybody's a little paranoid to an extent, not necessarily worried, but paranoid about Saturday, but I still feel pretty good about it.
• 3:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Mike, like old Dominion as well, can a South States a pretty young program as far as FBS goes.
• 4:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, first of all, I want to see a huge ovation for for texture Williams, you know, that's a kid who like Grant was saying was he was an electric player there for a couple of games.
• 4:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: He threw for 31 whole yards in that brass between game, but ran for what 200.
• 4:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: I want to say in that game and they'd won like 36 to 33.
• 4:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was just a wild wild game to follow.
• 4:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: And he came out and in the bucket game had Purdue just kind of
• 4:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: and a blender there, they scored a huge first drive.
• 4:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: We're driving down for the second and his knee just in typical Indian football form exploded.
• 4:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: It was like a freaking firecracker when often his leg or something.
• 4:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: And he never really got a moment where the Hoosier fans could give him appreciation or send him off or say thank you or you know, didn't get a, and it's cool that he gets to come back and play at Memorial Stadium one more time
• 5:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: there's a lot of IU fans now that maybe not don't even realize texture Williams played at Indiana, but hopefully the fan base that that understands who this kid is will give him some sort of recognition on the field.
• 5:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: other than that, screw the Nebraska game.
• 5:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's turn this into a Western Illinois fair.
• 5:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: I want to see so many points that they're mentioning Franklin College on a broadcast again because last year when they beat Western Illinois, all the records they broke in that game were they beat Franklin College in like 1903, 70 to 14.
• 5:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, they beat Western Illinois 77 to 3 so the last time Indiana scored this many points is what Franklin College was there.
• 5:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe we can get another Franklin College shot out by something the way they perform in this game.
• 6:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: Do I think that's going to happen?
• 6:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think 77-3's going to happen.
• 6:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Unfortunately, but I want to see some form of domination.
• 6:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: The further we get away from last Saturday, the more I'm like, something wasn't right.
• 6:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: They dominated everything statistically, but something just still didn't feel right.
• 6:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: And this could be PTSD from the Tom Allen going to the to the outback bull and then coming back and having the worst season since the Jerry DeNardo area, the following year.
• 6:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: I want to see that Signetti really got into these guys
• 6:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, just a huge number and the, and the defense dominates and they don't give up to 80 or touchdown runs at the account for all the scoring for the other team.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got to hope that there was some things corrected throughout the week and knowing what this coaching staff is capable of, they're definitely will be.
• 7:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: but going back to earlier with the paranoia kind of things.
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think honestly, it's just due to the fact that you're right about the PTSD from Tom Allen era.
• 7:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And like, I remember saying it on here last week that when the old Dominion quarterback broke that run for a touchdown, immediately my head went back to the Iowa game in 2021, where they gave up the opening
• 7:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: uh, opening kickoff for a touchdown.
• 7:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's when I was, that's what I was thinking.
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you're right, something about Saturday was weird.
• 7:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, not only was that the, the way the game was play, but it was just, it was kind of weird being him Memorial Stadium for some reason.
• 7:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to have that feeling again.
• 7:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't a good feeling for about the first 15 minutes.
• 8:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, string it together.
• 8:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can a false state?
• 8:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: No disrespect.
• 8:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure will be as big of a challenge as old Dominion was.
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think Indiana, I know it's not conference was not great, but that old Dominion team was, it's probably biggest test, at least on paper in the dark conference.
• 8:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think you're going to see a lot of things corrected from last week.
• 8:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you're going to see a lot of missed assignments.
• 8:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think you're going to see more fluent passes from the quarterback.
• 8:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think you're going to see him connect with the receivers more.
• 8:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: The run game will hopefully be just as dominant.
• 8:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think, you know, putting up a game like Western Illinois or Franklin College back in 1903 is going to help heal a lot
• 8:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: talking about the extra Williams is real quick.
• 8:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: The extra Williams is responsible for one of my favorite pictures and all of Indiana University football.
• 9:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it was after that Michigan State game where he is he jumped on top of the bench there on the IU sideline and is up pointing at all these people in the Michigan State stands to I would assume we're talking crap during the game.
• 9:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: and he made him pay and they came back and in one that game in double O. T. So he he was very beneficial for Indiana during that during that dark stretch under Tom Allen, but I'm glad he's back.
• 9:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking forward to him and I I want him to have success at Kenneth Hall State, but I want him to have the worst game of this career on Saturday.
• 9:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's point to those how you you're great.
• 9:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: We love you.
• 9:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: We really want to kick your ass right now, but that's a four quarters are over.
• 9:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, we love you again, man.
• 9:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think in any way shape or form, and I say paranoid or weird or whatever.
• 9:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: I want to make it clear.
• 9:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think there's any scenario, and maybe I shouldn't say it out loud, in which can it all state wins this game?
• 10:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: The last bread I saw was 28 and a half that's down from 30.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to continue to give the national media or anybody a reason to keep crapping on Indiana.
• 10:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: People at war know that.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't, I mean, nobody at work said a thing about that game because I don't think anybody understands that Indiana and Old Dominion even played last week.
• 10:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's how just non-descript that game was.
• 10:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: There are two busy freaking out about UK throwing for 43 oliards or whatever was against Toledo, but I mean Indiana played people are looking for a reason to doubt Indiana.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's be real here.
• 10:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: And a 27 14 game that nobody watched and they just look and say, yeah, here we go.
• 10:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Indiana beat a son belt team by 13, well, guess what, they dropped three points in the AP rankings.
• 10:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: They went all the way down to 21st in the coach's pole.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: There are SNP numbers, which actually have some actual statistic bases behind them.
• 11:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think they felt like eight spots, I think, of red or saw this week and the SNP numbers.
• 11:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: So they're already down into the 20s, you know, if they put up another 17 point win this week, against Kinesale,
• 11:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: You're at the tail end of the top 25.
• 11:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: And we're supposed to be trying to build momentum going into that game, September 21st or whatever it is against Illinois to have the first game.
• 11:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know, ever, maybe we're both teams who are ranked, or it's been forever, since a game in Bloomington, we're both teams who are ranked at the time of kickoff.
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's supposed to be a building that matters at all.
• 11:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: We're supposed to be hoping to turn that into a game day game.
• 11:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: If you look at the schedule for that day, it doesn't really present, who many other options?
• 11:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: But if Indiana is 26th in the country at that point, they may just be like, now, or would enjoy your 230 FS1 kick off.
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: And we might actually look to see what the score was because Illinois's a top-to-ten team at that point.
• 12:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: So this is about building back some of that offseason moment.
• 12:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: more than anything this game it's put up a huge number don't give up any any sort of number whatsoever make you be like okay yes ignite he got things straightened out it was 56 to six it's about trying to build momentum coming into that game and we've pretty much covered it all there I feel like
• 12:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Andy and it's just got to be better between the lines and the score has to depict how much better they were between the lines this week compared to last week.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's about all you can say if it's worth a kid and so I'll preview.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: The owls looked okay against week last week, lost 10 to 9.
• 13:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's worth pretty bad.
• 13:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: Wake Forest, power five, power four, whatever three and a half, the ACC doesn't get a full credit.
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think that 70's probably coming next week, guys.
• 13:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Indiana State there.
• 13:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: But Wake Forest is arguably one of the bottom five, power 14's, maybe out there this year.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm not gonna hang too much on a 10, nine loss to them.
• 13:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hey guys, that's the perfect time to bring in our new Purdue contributor.
• 13:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Speaking of the worst power for programs in the country.
• 13:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, Jake.
• 13:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: That is a horrible way to introduce you.
• 13:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
• 13:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I wouldn't even go there.
• 13:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, I appreciate that and I can't really dispute that that claim after last year.
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we really get
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right guys, thank you so much and you guys are going to get plenty of time to do some podcast with Jake when we do some college football reports and right before Black Friday when Purdue upsets IU and keeps them out of whatever bowl game that they want to go to.
• 14:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right, Jake.
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the the Gator bowls, I can looking pretty nice.
• 14:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: that was Jake Dunn, and right after we recorded the IU, in Canisaw State Preview, we previewed the Purdue Southern Illinois game, so please go check that out.
• 14:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't forget, we will also have reaction podcasts on Saturday after the games with grants and mics take on the IU game and Jake's on the Purdue game.
• 14:43
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• 14:50
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• 14:53
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