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Early Kickoff Problems, Bears Stadium Debate, Tanking & Backup QB Development | Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on, my people? How are
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  Speaker 1: we doing? I'm joan this three and out podcast. Happy
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  Speaker 1: Fugazi Friday, Happy Memorial Day weekend. I said, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: We will We're gonna be off for a couple of days,
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of next week. At least has a
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  Speaker 1: dive right in and we'll start with Dustin. I gotta
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  Speaker 1: be in the minority. The six thirty ampst kickoff game
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  Speaker 1: was one of my favorite Sundays of the year. Now
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  Speaker 1: in Dallas, eight thirty kickoff is money. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: anyone is against the occasional international game. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: anyone has a beef with throwing a game every once
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  Speaker 1: in a while, maybe once a month and early. Personally,
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  Speaker 1: i'd be cool with it never happening. I like that
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  Speaker 1: little window to kind of gather myself, get a workout,
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  Speaker 1: be showered, and be ready to roll by the ten
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  Speaker 1: am kickoffs. But that's a me problem, not a you problem.
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  Speaker 1: I think most people's issue, and this is where I
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  Speaker 1: am kind of leading the charge, is that if it
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  Speaker 1: is every weekend at eight thirty am Dallas time, it's
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  Speaker 1: not quite the same. And if for those of you
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  Speaker 1: that have family that have responsibilities, it's probably gonna be
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  Speaker 1: difficult to just sit on the couch from eight thirty
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  Speaker 1: all the way through the Sunday night game and consume
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  Speaker 1: what you want to consume. It's a little easy to
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  Speaker 1: just easier to justify just the normal window, especially if
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  Speaker 1: your teams you don't playing either in the morning or
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  Speaker 1: the afternoon, then you can watch the night game. Two.
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  Speaker 1: She has a lot of football, and I think there
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  Speaker 1: is somewhat a line of diminishing returns in terms of
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  Speaker 1: people wing their day. Now. Listen, I've hate watched a
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  Speaker 1: lot of games in my life in all sports. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm not against it, and I will continue to do it,
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  Speaker 1: but it does feel like there's a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a tipping point if just every day football is on
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  Speaker 1: from the krack of dawn till midnight. You know, for
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  Speaker 1: those of you in Dallas, what eight thirty am? And
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  Speaker 1: the night game ends at what time? Eleven? Right, Because
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  Speaker 1: it ends for like nine o'clock for me, So if
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  Speaker 1: you're a couple hours ahead of me, nine nine thirty,
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  Speaker 1: so eleven eleven thirty, that's a long freaking day, man,
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  Speaker 1: especially because college football is basically that. So it's just
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  Speaker 1: a lot of football Saturday and Sunday. And we love football,
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  Speaker 1: but I love pizza and ice cream. I don't need
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  Speaker 1: it every day, and I think that's always been kind
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  Speaker 1: of a point of separation for football, is the way
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  Speaker 1: it's set up. You just you really value when the
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  Speaker 1: games are on because you don't get to see games
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  Speaker 1: every night. And that's where it feels like the NFL
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  Speaker 1: is creeping a little closer and closer to Wednesday night
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  Speaker 1: game doubleheaders on Monday, which luckily we got canceled through
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  Speaker 1: uh through grassroots pushback of like who wants this? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, it just it is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm, uh, we'll just see what happens. But I
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  Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear where we're headed. Question for the pod,
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  Speaker 1: why is everyone saying the Bills will win the East,
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  Speaker 1: same coaching staff and harder path. Well, I think the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots and I don't even you know, it's it's hard
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  Speaker 1: to judge in the off season a schedule because one
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  Speaker 1: teams change year to year, so you can think a
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  Speaker 1: schedule is going to be really hard, and then that
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  Speaker 1: schedule is actually kind of difficult, or some of your
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  Speaker 1: harder games, maybe the quarterback is injured and you get
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  Speaker 1: the backup, so things can dramatically change during the season.
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  Speaker 1: But it's hard to look at their schedule and go,
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  Speaker 1: damn that that's gonna be really, really difficult. Where I
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  Speaker 1: think when you look at the Bills, like they have
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  Speaker 1: a proven track record of tough schedules, easy schedules, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: that they're coming through to thirteen fourteen wins a season.
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  Speaker 1: Now the coaching staff is a major change. But here's
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  Speaker 1: what I have to say for the Patriots, this Rabel
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  Speaker 1: Russini thing is kind of the elephant in the room.
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  Speaker 1: So is Mike Vrabel gonna just be completely normal? Or
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  Speaker 1: is this gonna linger? Is this story just done? Now?
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of gone safe to say, Dorman for it
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  Speaker 1: feels like ten days, I don't know, two weeks. Is
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  Speaker 1: that just gonna be the case, Because if it is,
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  Speaker 1: then okay, we can get back to some normality. Do
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  Speaker 1: they just add aj Brown? I'm with you. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's a slam dunk. But I'm a big believer
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  Speaker 1: in Joe Brady and I think Jim Leonard, the defensive
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  Speaker 1: coordinator they hired, I have a buddy buddy would be strong.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean a guy that I've known for a
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  Speaker 1: long time on that staff, and he couldn't be more
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  Speaker 1: fired up and I just think that you know, we
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  Speaker 1: know Josh Allen is a great player. It's like, you
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  Speaker 1: know part of Drake may becoming a great player is
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  Speaker 1: like doing it year in and year out. I think
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  Speaker 1: they still got some question marks with the offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: I by no means of like off the Patriots. I
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  Speaker 1: think it will be difficult, but I, like most people,
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  Speaker 1: probably gonna pick the Bills Bears fan captive to this
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  Speaker 1: stadium situation. It's a really complicated deal, and I agree
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  Speaker 1: that the mccaskey's lack of independent wealth is the crux
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  Speaker 1: of it. I have always thought Indiana was purely a
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  Speaker 1: leverage play. In reality, I think other businesses considerations are
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  Speaker 1: preventing a move to Indiana, even though they seem willing
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  Speaker 1: to give the Bears whatever they want. Even if the
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  Speaker 1: Bears build quote a world class stadium, the place will
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  Speaker 1: still be on reportedly an actual pile of human shit.
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  Speaker 1: Premium suites and venue tickets generally wouldn't be as valuable
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  Speaker 1: as they would be in downtown Chicago or even Arlington Heights.
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  Speaker 1: I have no sense about where this is going, but
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  Speaker 1: gun to my head, I think they stay in Illinois.
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  Speaker 1: Any take on whether the actual value of tickets in
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  Speaker 1: Indiana versus elsewhere is impacting this, my guess is the
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  Speaker 1: ticket sale. Like if the Bears are just a consistent
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  Speaker 1: playoff level team, whether they are in Indiana on the
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  Speaker 1: reported pile of shit or downtown, you know, I would
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  Speaker 1: say Downtown would always be the most valuable, but Arlington Heights,
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  Speaker 1: which you know, by no means do I pretend to
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  Speaker 1: be comfortable talking about the different areas in Chicago. I
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: have been there for a total of two and a
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  Speaker 1: half days and it was fucking awesome. Place is beautiful,
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  Speaker 1: But like, I don't know if it necessarily matters. I
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  Speaker 1: think it has less to do with the impact of
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  Speaker 1: like a suite or the impact of the cost of
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  Speaker 1: an individual seat or group of seats, and more about
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  Speaker 1: thought it was gonna sneeze. I think they desperately want
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  Speaker 1: to stay in Illinois. But these situations get com complicated
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  Speaker 1: when you can't siphon the money that you want because
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  Speaker 1: you not only want the money, you want the ability
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  Speaker 1: then to profit. So that's where it gets complicated in
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  Speaker 1: situations in places like Illinois. I have seen it in California,
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  Speaker 1: you know, with the forty nine ers and what they
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  Speaker 1: had to give in with Santa Clara. Krokey didn't have
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  Speaker 1: to deal with it because he paid it paid for himself,
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  Speaker 1: and I gun into my head, I have no clue.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think like most people, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 1: this Indiana thing is a leverage play. But the farther
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  Speaker 1: you get along and they're just willing to give you
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  Speaker 1: free money and let you have, you know, different splits
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  Speaker 1: that the state of Illinois and the City of Chicago
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  Speaker 1: will not give you. I think it becomes more and
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  Speaker 1: more realistic because the end of the day, money talks
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  Speaker 1: and shit walks. So when you can get free stuff
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  Speaker 1: and then keep the revenue flow whatever, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: split would be with the city, whatever the split would
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  Speaker 1: be in Indiana, if it's dramatically better for the Bears,
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  Speaker 1: I think they will consider that. Now. The trump card
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  Speaker 1: here is the league is gonna be pretty sensitive because
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  Speaker 1: where I came from, people were very angry when the
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  Speaker 1: forty nine ers moved to Santa Clara. It didn't bother
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  Speaker 1: me as much. I mean, I didn't love it because
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  Speaker 1: for where I lived, it was a much longer travel
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  Speaker 1: than it wasn't a candlestick, but their facility to practice
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  Speaker 1: had been down there since the mid eighties, and in
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  Speaker 1: defense of them, it's in like the heart of Silicon Valley,
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  Speaker 1: which financially changed their kind of trajectory as an ownership
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  Speaker 1: group and as a franchise. It's why they can spend
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  Speaker 1: so much cash on a yearly basis. If Indiana is
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  Speaker 1: the polar opposite of that, then it makes less sense
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  Speaker 1: and I think rog the other owners will get aggressive
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  Speaker 1: because my question is this as a Big Bears fan
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  Speaker 1: in people in Chicago know this better. Are is the
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  Speaker 1: mccaskee family gonna own it forever? Or will this be
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  Speaker 1: a Davis situation? Will this be you know, like Paul
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  Speaker 1: Allen with Jody and his daughters, how they're forced to
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  Speaker 1: sell because if they ever were, I think the Bears,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look at this billionaire guy that came into Vegas,
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: because Vegas is a very very valuable market. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the stadium, what you can make off the team, it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of a sleeping giant. I think people would view
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  Speaker 1: the Bears as like the brand recognition in one of
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  Speaker 1: the America's major city cities, which is a finance hub
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  Speaker 1: ton of companies. Are there high end rich people to
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  Speaker 1: buy the tickets? Whatever Seattle goes for, the Bears would
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  Speaker 1: go for more. With the way you talk about Scottsdale,
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  Speaker 1: I assume you and your family are in it for
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  Speaker 1: the long run. As your son continues to grow and
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  Speaker 1: starts getting into sports, are you going to try to
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  Speaker 1: lead them in the fandom of the forty nine like
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  Speaker 1: when you were young, or maybe show him your ties
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  Speaker 1: to the Eagles, or maybe build his character by telling him, sorry, bro,
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  Speaker 1: you're from Arizona. Your teams are the Cardinals' sons and
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks. The Diamondbacks just beat the shit out of
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: the San Fransco Giants for a couple of days. They're
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: actually not a terrible franchise right now. The Sun's sneaky
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: on the mend with Ishpia. The Cardinals are another story.
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  Speaker 1: If you told me the Cardinals got the fucking loser
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: owner they have ever sold to some badass, I think
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  Speaker 1: it would be much more interesting. I be honest, I
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  Speaker 1: don't spend much time thinking about this. I will let
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  Speaker 1: him do whatever he wants, you know, Like I my
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  Speaker 1: dad didn't force me to be a Niner fan. They
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  Speaker 1: were just on there sweet and I liked them, right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up like I like Chicago Bulls.
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  Speaker 1: I liked I remember liking the New York Rangers with
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  Speaker 1: Messa in ninety four, watching them, you know, win the
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  Speaker 1: Stanley Cup. I think when you're young, he bounce around
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, especially for those of us
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  Speaker 1: on the West Coast, when you live, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: Philly or New York, you know, or Chicago, it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of just bred into you. We're a little more nomadic,
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: you know, on the West Coast. So like, the Dodgers
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  Speaker 1: are cool now, and there probably aren't many kids in
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  Speaker 1: southern California don't like the Dodgers. Fifteen years ago, when
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  Speaker 1: Frank McCort couldn't pay the hot dog vendor, I don't
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: know if it was quite the same. So I he
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  Speaker 1: can like whoever he likes. I mean to be completely
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: honest with you, and honestly, if he doesn't like who
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  Speaker 1: I like or likes some team, I look forward to
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: arguing with him. Maybe it'll kind of hone my skills
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: for the podcast. But I will not be like you
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: gotta be a Yankee fan. I fucking like whoever you like.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe won't even like sports. There's no guarantee
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: can't even get him a nap. Who's to say that
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna, you know, love watching you know, the forty
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  Speaker 1: nine ers Week seven, you know against the Jags. I fuck,
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  Speaker 1: what if he's got no interest? What if he's into
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: anime or you know, my wife's not gonna allow him
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  Speaker 1: to be a gamer, So that's a that's a no go.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what he'll be into, but you gotta
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  Speaker 1: let it. You gotta let them follow their own passions.
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  Speaker 1: Now he's gonna see what I like, and hopefully I'm
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  Speaker 1: a good enough dad that he likes being around me.
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  Speaker 1: And it's kind of the way I got into sports.
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  Speaker 1: My dad love watching games, So it's kind of your
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  Speaker 1: way to get in with your dad, right. You kind
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  Speaker 1: of like what he likes, so you can talk to
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  Speaker 1: him about it. What else are you gonna talk to
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  Speaker 1: him about? It's it's difficult, especially you know, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: I'm way older than him, so when he's ten, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be fifty. So hopefully he likes what I like,
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  Speaker 1: But who knows, maybe football's falling apart by then, maybe
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: hockey's him. My wife really wants him to play hockey,
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  Speaker 1: which I wouldn't be opposed to what if he's the
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: next you know, Jack Hughes. They got a big Actually
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: it's kind of weird because his place is hotter than
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: Ball's a pretty big hockey scene here. Question for the POD.
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  Speaker 1: With the increase in international travel for the NFL, does
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  Speaker 1: any organization take into consideration travel anxieties that players may have.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking from experience, my wife is a terrible traveler. She
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  Speaker 1: physically is not herself leading into it the day following
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  Speaker 1: along flight either. Do the trainers have to work around
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  Speaker 1: any player's anxiety when it comes to travel, especially long
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  Speaker 1: international flights. It would be very, very difficult to function
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  Speaker 1: in college football if you can't get on a plane.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: So in college you're getting on a plane, depending on
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  Speaker 1: the program you play for, six to ten times a year.
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  Speaker 1: I mean if you're doing playoff games. Imagine if you're Indiana,
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  Speaker 1: I think how many times Indiana just got on a
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  Speaker 1: plane flight or the University of Miami or Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: or Michigan. So if you think about the majority of
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: these guys are coming from the power for conferences. But
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  Speaker 1: even if you're playing at San Diego State, they're not
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: to New Mexico they're not driving to Boise. So even
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  Speaker 1: if you've never been on a plane flight, which I'm
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: sure some of these kids, well I guess in recruiting
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: that they would fly you out. It would be really
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  Speaker 1: difficult to not. Obviously, some people would just naturally get
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  Speaker 1: an anxiety. But by the time you get to the pros,
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: because you have to play in college football for three
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  Speaker 1: plus years, you've been on a lot of flights, and
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  Speaker 1: that they're not sitting in an airport. So I think
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: part of I hate traveling. I like traveling once i'm there,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: but I fucking hate airports. I hate a packed airport.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: I hate stuffing into a plane like a sardine. I
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: despise it. I really, the older I get, the more
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  Speaker 1: that I just it's awful and I try to avoid
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  Speaker 1: it as much as possible. But my wife likes to travel,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: so there's got to be a little give and take.
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  Speaker 1: And I just think that it comes with the territory.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we were going Tahoe in a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: You just know you're getting a flight. I mean, it
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: just kind of is what it is. He's kind of
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  Speaker 1: deal with it. Some people get anxiety. Some people just
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: get angry. It's just part of life, so there's not
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  Speaker 1: really much you can do. Plus, these guys travel pretty well,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: like when you and I travel. So if we're in
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: whatever airline, right, we pay twenty dollars for a water,
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  Speaker 1: fifty dollars for a sandwich, these guys show up. I
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: was talking to Haberman, who called the forty nine er
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  Speaker 1: games this year and full in the team plane. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: it's incredible. I mean the amount of snacks and meals
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  Speaker 1: and they got something for everybody. So it's these guys
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: aren't exactly traveling on Southwest, which has turned into what
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: a dog shit airline. It's like Southwest, part of what
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  Speaker 1: you hung your hat on was like fifty nine ninety
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  Speaker 1: nine flights, ninety nine dollars flights, well now and a
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  Speaker 1: free bag. Now you're charging me for bags. I have
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: to pick my seat, and your rates are not that
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  Speaker 1: much different than the other better airlines. Like I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: you fucking suck. I always hated south West airlines, but
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: especially when I had no money, it was just so cheap.
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  Speaker 1: Even when I had some money. It's like you could
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  Speaker 1: just get a flight if you needed to go somewhere
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  Speaker 1: on the West coast. Now their rates are high and
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: their amenities, which were always terrible, are like forced on.
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  Speaker 1: It just sucks. I actually just canceled my Southwest credit
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. You were talking about Wemby
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: and Lebron and Lway and win in an NFL owner tank.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: My question is less about if, but more about how.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: For example, Steven Ross fired Flores in part because he
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: cost the Dolphins Burrow after Flores refused the payout to
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: tank the last three weeks or whatever it was. Well,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: he famously won an overtime game after sucking all season
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: long against the Angles, and then I think he beat
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the Patriots last week of the season. I mean it was,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: but you're getting one hundred grand a game to lose
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: and get Joe Burrow. Instead they got Tua, which I
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: saw a clip the other day and it was it
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: was Penix must be pretty healthy because he was out
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: at OTAs and they were doing like routes on air
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: and it looked like an out route or like a
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: you know, like a ten yard comeback or whatever. But
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: it was a decent. It wasn't like a bomb or anything,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: but probably in the air. Twenty five thirty yard throw
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: and Penix rows, just a nice spiral, good velocity. Then
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Tua makes the same throw. I mean they're running the
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: same route. It's like Penix goes, then Tua goes, and
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the ball went half as fast. It's like, God, Tua's
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: just I'm just not into weak armed quarterbacks. I'm not.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, you better have incredible instincts and timing and
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: rhythm and be a playmaker. I mean, Purdy is about
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: the the bar men mom'd go and he gets by
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: because he's a really good athlete and he's he's smart.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I mean you watch two of You're like, what are
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: what's a skill set? You can't move? I just think
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: two is the last type player that I would like.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Good guy. Good guy seems like a stand up human. Uh.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: With the new head coaching in front office and Halflee
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: being a first time coach and wants to establish himself
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: and his culture in such an abysmal organization, how would
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: they go about tanking without losing the room or is
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: it as simple as they're going to keep many of
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: the current players. That's how you tank, You get rid
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: of guys, which is what Flores and the Dolphins did.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: You just you can try what I don't understand. If
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: you tank the roster and you're one in ten, if
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: you're an if you're a coach, how could you possibly
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: work a fifteen hour day on a Monday and Tuesday
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: game planning? Well, Pride gotta be a pro. It's like,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: just throw some fucking plays together. Who cares, I'll be
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: their family. We'll dial this in next year. It's about
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: setting the culture. Like if I knew no one watched
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: or listened to my podcast, there is no way after
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: a while it could put as much effort. Zero chance.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. So I don't know how I
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: would just I would throw the games Monday and Tuesday.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Who cares. I think it's kind of easy through game
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: planning and roster construction more than just like kneeling at
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: every play, because you're not gonna do that. But you
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: could just run a pretty vanilla game plan. Now that's
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: where you could get some weird stuff with players. I
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: mean it's complicated. It's much easier in basketball and baseball
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: because in baseball you can just roll out a guy
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: who's a terrible pitcher. In basketball the Sam Hanky, you
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: just roll out a bunch of g leaguers and just suck.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: In football, it is a little more difficult, definitely. I
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: mean I joke about the floor's thing. I don't totally
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: blame on I mean, he's just coaching. Who do you
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: think that a better job as a DC in their
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: respective season, twenty four Glenn or twenty five sala I.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I would say they're very similar. I think it would
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: be hard to quantify one over the other. I think
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: both of them, they're like they're Mona Lisa, you know.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: For Aaron Glenn, it was that that Sunday night against
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings when he was playing me, you and
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: seven other randos. And I think Sala's game on the
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: road against I get the Eagles offense was bad, but still,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, look at their roster compared to his, I
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: think those are two of the more impressive. Just like,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: we're going into battle and we got swords and they
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: got AK forty seven's and you know what, We're gonna
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: fucking slice some throats. We're gonna lose some dudes. They're
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: gonna shoot some of us, but I'll pro this, a
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: lot of them are going down and you just charge them.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: And that's kind of what it felt like they did
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: that they went into a game with knives against people
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: with guns and they still won. So I would say
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: both games, the Lions Vikings game for the division and
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: for the one seed, and the Niners road game against
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: the Eagles, when it's easy to say now, no one
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: would have put their own money on the forty nine ers.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: What are teams allowed to do in their home stadium
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: to gain an advantage. I've heard stadiums being designated are
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: designed to amplify crowd noise. Could anore their team like Buffalo,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: make their stadium with detractable roof, then open or close
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: the roof, depending on if they wanted a dome game
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: or a blizzard game. I think you have to announce
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: in a situation like that. I don't think you can
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: just do it the day of the game. Not quite
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: sure the rules on that. Which As these cold weather
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: teams get domes, I'm sure we'll hear more about it.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know the rule on that. I think a
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: lot of the advance it's really twofold. You don't have
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: to get into a plane, and with a plane, the dehydration,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: the just the time you lose to rehab, it's just
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: time lost. And you got to sleep in a hotel
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: where the other guy gets sleep in his bed, and
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: there's a routine at home that is much easier. And
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: then to me, the noise in the stadium. You know,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: forever people thought the Colts were manipulating the noise. I
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: think the Falcons have or the Saints. I mean, I
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: don't blame any team if you got a dome I'd
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: manipulate the noise too. So I think it's more about
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: the noise when you're on offense on the road and
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: you can't hear and it's hard to communicate. So you know,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: you know, the Colts or the Saint Louis Rams, you
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: know have the fast turf. I think it's a huge
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: advantage for cold weather teams when they play teams that
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: aren't coming from the cold. Like if you're Chicago and
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: you're playing December twentieth and it's ten degrees and you're
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: playing the Rams or the Niners outside, like that is
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: just a natural advantage because there is no way for
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: those players Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday getting ready for that
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: game and it's seventy degrees outside. It's just a built
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: in advantage for you. So I think it's less about
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: like crowd noise or turf and dome and more about
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: travel implications of just being a little bit of a disadvantage,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: and definitely a crowd noise because crowd noise a huge
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: part of football is communication. Uh, you're part of my
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: daily routine. I appreciate you. My question is, shouldn't coaches
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: like Lafleur Shanahan and McVeigh consider their backup Rehability Rehabilitation
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: project as more than just developing a backup. Using Malik
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Willis as an example, that was using Mili that was
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: not just a way to develop a good backup, but
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: a way to build tradeable assets. If we had Malik
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Willis under contract, I believe we could have gotten a
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: one or two for him With that, I would go
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: after guys with big upsides rather than bridge type guys.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson comes to mind, what are your thoughts? Well,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: if you just look at the asset that the Packers
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: got out of Malik Willis his value that they traded,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: if memory serves me correct, a seventh round pick for him.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: He won? Was it four games? Throughout a couple of years?
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: He won games as a starting quarterback when Jordan Love
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: went down? Definitely this year he won a couple, right?
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Was it this year? Last year? I can't even keep track.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of got baby brains. Late May he won
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: games for them as a starting quarterback, and even when
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: he came in and they lost, he played really really well.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: So like his value on a cheap contract was worth
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: its weight in gold to the franchise. Over the couple
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: of years he was fucking awesome for them, and then
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: when he gets signed to the big contract, depending, I
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: have to look at their books, like who they signed.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: They're gonna get a third round pick in twenty twenty
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: seven from Malik Willis. So from a comp standpoint, they
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: traded a seventh, they developed them, they're gonna get a
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: third round pick for him, and they won games with
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: him on the roster, which obviously that last year was
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: the difference. Would they go nine to seven and one
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: they tie last year? Was that two years ago? They
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: tied the Cowboys last year? I think they did that.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: They had multiple teams in their division with nine wins,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: so they wouldn't even have made the playoffs. So I
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: hear what you're saying about a first or second round pick,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: but what would you assign him for? Would you have
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: given him like two years ten million dollars? Would Malik
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Willis have signed that contract because his agent's going, well,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: you're gonna hit free agency. Who are the other quarterbacks
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: in free agency? Now? It turned out to be best
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: case scenario. He he got whatever seventy million dollars over
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: three or four years. Because those guys got a job,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: which he wouldn't have known a year ago that those
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: guys were gonna get the job. But his agent had
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: to be telling him, like, we can get one year,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: twenty million dollars. So would the Packers have paid enough
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: last offseason where him and his agent were looking toward
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: the future. Probably not, so I hear what you're saying.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: In a perfect world, you would have given him, like
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the Tyson pagent two years ten million dollars and traded
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: him this offseason. My doubt he would assigned that contract.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I do think though they got major value that act.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: That's for a non full time starter. That has to
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: be the best move in the league last couple of years.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: It was incredible for the Packers seventh round pick for that.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I laughed, I'm like, that's a you trade a seventh
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: round pick for this guy. The problem with the Malik
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Willis was a third round pick, so he wasn't very expensive,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: andthy Richardson was the fourth overall pick, so he his
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: contract I think is like six seven million dollars a year,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: and this year's going into year four, meaning he's a
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: free agent next year. So it's it's not apples to apples,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: But I hear what you're saying. The other thing with
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: the rehabilitation projects is Malik Willis had to play and
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: turns out he was good and they did a great
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: job with him. Sometimes those guys are not good and
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: then your backup so it's like, oh, you go with
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: a lower ceiling, higher floor backup. Well you can win
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: the game with that guy because you would have been like,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: you want mac Jones as your backup quarterback. Well, it
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: turns out like that was a safe route and it
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: kind of worked out. What's up, John, I don't know
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: if you've seen or kept up with this. Apparently will
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Wade at LSU has been getting G League or NBA
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: two way guys to get eligibility and return to college.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: This is apparently driving some of the older coach's nuts.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: How exactly is this possible? Is there anyway you could
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: see college football coaches trying to milk this loophole? I
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: can't see it in college football. I do think my
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: fugazi right now is just college sports in general. Like
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I am so exhausted with like should owner twenty four teams?
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: The Iowa State ad was like, fuck them, have them
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: make their own playoff if they don't include us and
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the Big Ten saying this about the SEC and Lane
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Kiffin going Lane Kiffin said yesterday like he was bragging.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: The part of my take guys that they played nobody
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: in the non conference and in his time at Ole
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Miss the last four years they went or five years
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: and went twenty to zero in non conference games. It's like, Bro,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: that's embarrassing. You're playing the Sisters of the Poor, the
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: School of the Blind, and team with one leg. People
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: like that's something to brag about. That's an embarrassment to
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: the sport. It's why no one pays attention to your
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: games until you get into SEC play. It's not like
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: you made the playoffs one time. You didn't even coach
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the team. And his point was like, well, look at LSU,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: they were playing hard games. Yeah, and they were on
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Sunday and Monday night to open the season and got
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: fucking twenty five million people watching. Shouldn't the whole point
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: of the sport to be able to play other Like
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: in the NFL last year, the Patriots and the forty
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: nine ers, for example, to come into the season had
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: schedules that were easier. What rotates every year so that
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: there's a randomness to it. Some years you draw divisions
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: that are down, and then the following year it rotates
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: to new divisions. So last year the NFC West Seattle
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: and the Rams and the forty nine ers benefited from
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: playing the AFC and NFC South. Well, this year they
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: get the AFC East, which the Eagles are clearly gonna
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: be solid, the Giants could be way better, and the
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Cowboys should be pretty good, and they get the AFC West.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: So it's like it just rotates. We're in college football
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: is like every year, it's like, let's just play nobody, right,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: So four of your twelve games are going or three
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: of your twelve games now I guess of the SEC
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: and they're like bragging, now we're going to nine conference games. Well,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: thank god, no one wants you to watch you play
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: some Division seventeen from Alaska. Can you guys just figure
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: it out? Like it shouldn't be this complicated. But here's
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: the problem, and this is the NFL's greatest attribute, is
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: they all pull in the same direction. The owners in
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: elite they're all even when they disagree, like they're all
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: in it together. And in college you have the SEC
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: against the Big ten, the coaches. It's just like everyone's
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: pretty selfish. They really are. In the NFL, like Jerry
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Jones and Harry Roseman will do a fucking deal and
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: you know what, they're all printing checks. Where in college
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: it's just like everyone's out for I'm just tired of it.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: We got a Notre Dame question next. It's like, I
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: just can't everyone just pull in the same direction. You
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: guys are profiting at historic rates. Your games are fantastic,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: but it's like it just gets exhausting the conversation about
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: like sixteen teams, twenty four teams, we will not entertain
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: sixteen teams, Like Jesus Christ, can't you guys just figure
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: it out? And the answer is no, not only will
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: they not figure out, it's only gonna get crazier and
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: more chaotic. The will Waite thing. I'd be lying if
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: I said I knew much. I did see Jeff Goodman
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: going on some rant about it, basically just calling him
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: like one of the shadiest scumbags in all of college sports.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: These are kind of the rules, like I do, trust me,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: if you play in the G League, you should not
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: be able to come back if you you know, in
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: college basketball, you can go to the Combine and if
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: you realize you're not gonna get drafted, as I was
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: reading like Arkansas as a couple of players that entered
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: the draft but they're still eligible to come back. I
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: got no problem with that. But if you get drafted
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: and then play G League games or play international games
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: and then a couple of years later come back and
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: play an Auburn or Bama or LSU, that's fucking bullshit.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: So that's insane. But if you're him, if there aren't rules,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: they're not gonna be able to pass it, then yeah,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna try. These sports and leagues and jobs are
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: so competitive some of these guys, especially if you know,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: is Tom Izzo or coach k gonna do that? No,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: even coach Cal is he gonna do that? No? Is
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Will Wade gonna do that? Yeah, Will Wade's gonna do that.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: So I I I also think you kind of need
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: some villains, you know, you kind of need Lane Kiffin
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: everyone to think he's a scummback. Kind of need some
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Will Wades. And look look where these guys are coaching.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Would those guys be coaching at Ohio State? Would those
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: guys be coaching at Michigan. Would those guys be coaching
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: at like would Alabama? Like Alabama never wanted Lane, they
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: were never gonna hire Lane. Kiffen think about that. They
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: weren't gonna do it. Auburn would have LSU, did Ole
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Miss did some of those programs do shady shit? Love
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: the show, but I feel compelled to get on here
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: and defend my and producer Jackson's fighting irish is the
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty sixth schedule of gotlet no but to act
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: like they deliberately scheduled the Sisters of the Poor. I've
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: always wanted to know where is that school? Because I
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: since I worked in football, everyone uses that I don't
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: know where. Someone DM me the other day, like you
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: were talking shit about James Gandalfini. I think James Gandelfini
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: as Tony Soprano was the greatest character I've ever seen
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: in my forty years of life. I do not blame
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame for scheduling some of these teams like Michigan State,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: who ten years ago was a dominant program. I mean
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: they were one of the better programs in the country.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: They were producing in NFL guys, they were always in
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: the top ten, Top fifteen. They were like the Midwest
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: version of Oregon. They were legit. They went to Rose
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Bulls under D'Antoni. They had NFL cores every year that
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: they and now they suck, right. I mean they scheduled
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: North Carolina, who some years North Carolina wins like eight
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: or nine games. My issue with Notre Dame is less
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: about the schedule, because there's gonna be some randomness to it,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: and more about like being the independent. I will not
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: argue that Notre Dame is one of the best programs
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: in the country right now. Even last year they didn't
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: make the playoffs. They were clearly you would say, if
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: you had to go, who are the best four teams
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: last year to Indiana one, You'd say Miami two, I'd
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: say Ohio State three, I'd probably say Notre Dame four. Like,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: just join the Big ten. Just just do that so
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: we don't have to argue about this, because even in
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: the SEC in the Big ten, some years, your schedule
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: is gonna be easier than others. But when you do
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: it like Notre Dame so far out, you can have
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: these years where you just it doesn't look great. I'm
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: not I I got no problem with note they are
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: scheduling really games they just happened to suck. I mean
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Dan Orlowski called ty Simpson's drive of the season called
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: it the best drive of the season. It was against Wisconsin,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: who did not have a player drafted and whose program
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: is of the last couple decades at the lowest point
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: in modern program history in the Internet age. Like it's
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: an embarrassment right now. So like you played Wisconsin ten fifteen,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: twenty years ago, that was a big time game. They
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: could either be like the fifteenth best team in the country,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: the tenth, the nineteenth. That was a top twenty win.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Some years they might be like fifth or sixth. Now
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: you schedule him, it's like that game's a joke. Can
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  Speaker 1: it later. What do you think about the Bears draft?
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: It feels like every year they draft a position player
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: elite I least expect. Last year it was Loveland and Burden,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: and I didn't think we needed them at the time.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: This year, we drafted a tight end on Day two.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Would shocked me well. I think part of the argument
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: in round one was like, there wasn't a defensive lineman
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: we could have taken. I think clearly the Oregon safety
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: was a freak athlete. I had some people think he's overrated.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I have some people thought he was the best safety
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: in the draft. Or right there with Caleb Downs if
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: he's the best player on your board, that's just what
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: you're supposed to do. I do think the tight end,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: and I think going back to Loveland, Loveland's a stud.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: So I don't think you can argue with that part
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: of a draft. You know, in free agency, if I
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: sign a guy, I want that guy to start for me,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: and it's about the immediate impact. Sometimes in the draft,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: it's about a year from now. Could you'd be like,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: why why are you drafting his tight end when you
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: already got a stud receiving tight end in this kind
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: of like all around solid guy in Comet because Coole
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Comet's not gonna be in the team in twenty twenty seven.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: No different than like, well, we already got Dj Moore Romadoon,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: say why do we need Luther Bert? Well, Dj Moore
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: is traded. That's part of what a draft is. It's
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: thinking a year or two in the future. So I
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: think people sometimes get mad when it's not about the
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: immediate and it's like we don't need that. It's not
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: about need. We love this player, whether we agree or disagree,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: how good the guy is. They liked him, and it's
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: about the future move of like he'll be there with
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Loveland and he's a blocking tight end, so I wouldn't
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: say Loveland's exactly Grenkowski on the line of scrimmage. Congrats
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: on the kid and all the success. As a fellow Jack,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I can confirm it's a great name. Question for the mailbag?
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: What is day to day like for NFL coaches and
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: gms this time of year, post draft and before training camp?
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Is it close to a nine of with weekends off
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: is to break from the intense grind of the regular season?
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Yet's I mean some teams are like three day work
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: weeks now some of the some of the new staffs
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: like Kubiak, Halflee. I guess there's a ton. There's like
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: ten new staffs. It's probably pretty intense. But like Sean Payton,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Howie Roseman, the forty nine ers McVeigh, it's probably not nine.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: You're probably getting there a little earlier. But I would
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: imagine some days you're out by two, especially if you
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: practice it like nine or ten in the morning. I
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: don't know when everyone practiced a little bit different time,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: but probably doing a little meeting, a little lyft breakfast
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: lunch practice, maybe a little more film and you're out
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: and you're not practicing five days a week. So sometimes
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Mondays are off, sometimes Fridays are off. Everyone's home by dinner.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Some days are really chill. It's it's a lot of
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: just going to practice, getting a feel for your team.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's a great time of year. It's it's
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: a great time of year. You know, you're still kind
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: of evaluating stuff, you're still working, but it is of
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: the calendar of the times you're in the office, it
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: is easily the most chill time right because the draft
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: for front office, you're is meeting and watching tape twenty
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: four to seven. The season for coaches in front office
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: is just NonStop. This is pretty relaxed that there's a
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: lot of I saw Kyle Shanahan, Oh he might have
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: said this to Rich He's like, Yeah, if I golfed,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: i'd be playing every afternoon. I just don't so I
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: go home to my family. When I was in Philly,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: we had a membership in like course in Jersey, we'd
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: play all the time in the spring. I think, especially
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: if you have like an established GM coach, it's it's
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: pretty relaxed, but you never know, like it's reality television.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you're the Eagles, right, it's prob'll
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: be chill time. And then you get a Dom gets
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: a call Nolan Smith was just doing one hundred and
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: ninety miles an hour in a twenty five. You're like,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: what do you know fast? One hundred and thirty five
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: miles an hours? When I saw that and people was
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: ironic because we got asked about the Kirby Smart question
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: the other day. These Georgia guys. Maybe it's the program,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: the urgency, always trying to be on time. They cannot,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Like you go like ninety one hundred miles an hour
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: in the freeway, you are fucking passing everybody going one
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five miles an hour? Are you racing
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: the Indy five hundred? I mean, in all seriousness, if
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: you crushed into someone, you people are dying. It's like,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I wo was Henry Ruggs like one fifty, Like, it's
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: what are we doing here? I don't get it. It's
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: it's pretty crazy, honestly. So yeah, I mean, it's just
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: it's a great time of year. It is like this
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: weekend's a good example. I would imagine the majority of
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: the NFL is off tomorrow. They'll be off Monday, So
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: these guys will family little mini vacations any you know,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Seattle Eagles, Niners, Rams, Charge, Harbob might not want to
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Cowboys like you're just this is a good time to
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: kind of get with some people that you don't get
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: to see very often, get out of town potentially. Have
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: you seen the reports from Jeremy Fowler that Jalen and
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Mannion are getting along. I know that it has never
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: been considered a strength for him that'd be playing under center.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: But how differently will we view Jalen if he proves
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: really successful in this system? Again hypothetical, but also if
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: man and Jalen lead a research at successful Eagles offense,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: can the Birds afford to let him be poached to
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: become a head coach. He's got a little kid the
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: house who gets sick, and you get sick. I don't
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: even he doesn't even go anywhere. I think we got
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: to be very careful the vibes it's gonna be unless
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: it's the Browns. To Todd munkin the other day, was
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: like pissed off that they threw interceptions on seven and seven.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: It's like Todd this is the middle of May. Chill,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: bro relax has them if he if Miles Garrett was there,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: he's that he hadn't even met him. I just think
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: that Joe Shane just got an extension, so he went
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: from fire to extension, him, him and Harball getting along.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: I if it goes well, then that's a conversation. We're
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: six months away from that right now. Vibes are high,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: moods are good. There are no games on the horizon. Uh,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: it should be a very It's a quarterback friendly offense.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of layup throws, it's a lot of
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: stuff on the move. Well, what is he He's a
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: great athlete, so it's it's it's a quarterback's dream offense. Also,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: what is it? It's run centric. Takes a lot of
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: the pressure off you. There's a reason the Shanahan, Kubiak, McVeigh,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Kevin o'conn, people with a lot of the core beliefs
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: in this offense. Their quarterbacks look pretty good because it's
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: pretty quarterback friendly. You play for Andy Reid, he's putting
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: a lot. You better read Donald McNabb and Patrick mahomes
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: because if you forging asked, you just sling that shit
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: around these guys is like under center handed off. The
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Giants have repeatedly drafted an offensive lineman and the defense
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: is still finished in the bottom ten, and the O
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: line does not looked better. It seems like the dbs
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: are never able to cover anybody. My question why they
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: not draft the DB's in high rounds. Is it a
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: philosophical thing in the front office or are they generally better
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: lineman than DB's out of college. It's an organizational flow.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: It goes back to I mean twenty thirty years they.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I know, when I was with the Eagles, they had
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: a core philosophy of the line of scrimmage and specifically
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: defensive linement. They would draft defensive lineman every year. So
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: once you start doing that, like with Coughlin and Jerry Reese,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: and then you win Super Bowls, it's kind of embedded
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: in you. And then I think Harbob kind of comes
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: from that school too. Now they've taken DB's in with
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: the Ravens high, but you're basically saying, would they have
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: been better off taking let's say rvel Rees turns out
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: to be a really good player and delaying the corner
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: from LSU, who's on the Chiefs becomes a really good player.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: The Giants already have Abdul Carter, Brian Burns, Cavon. Would
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: they have been better off just having a sweet corner?
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: You could make the argument I think they would say,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: is we just if both their ceilings are sky high,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: which I think they all, or the defensive lineman is
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: more valuable, and I tend to agree, And I just
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: think that's I could never argue with you taking defensive lineman.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: H What do you think about assigning every NFL team
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: to a dedicated international sister city. Each team could host
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: a home game. They're annually creating two international games per week.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I'm already over sixteen the international games. Now you want
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: thirty two. Some pairings already seem natural. Jackson London, the
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Saints in Paris, the Lions in Germany, because I'm in
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Ros Saint Brown, Tampa and Manchester. A permanent local connection
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: could keep deep global engagement. Honestly, you're kind of onto something.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: It doesn't quite feel like that's what they want to do. Also,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: because these teams don't want to go over there every year.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I actually think you're I wanted to hate your idea.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: You're probably onto something. But if you tried to tell,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: like the Saints or the Cowboys, or the Rams, or
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: the Niners or Seattle, you had to go international every year,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: they would be pissed. They don't want to do it.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: This idea is not terrible. Though. The Cardinals are primed
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: to get the number one pick. They have the hardest
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: schedule in the NFL. We're heading into a year with
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: an embarrassing quarterback room. On top of our NFC West games,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: we also play the AFC West and the NFC East
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: along with the Lions. We win three games or less,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: I'd probably bet the under Well, no wonder Jacoby's not
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: showing up. People are comparing us with the Raiders, acting
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: like Genty is a bust after one season. Let's see
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: how the next three years go before we start that label.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Oh talking about love, the same should apply to love.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: We have a pretty good offensive roster, some sweet defensive lineman.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: I saw Josh Schweat is holding out too. I'd probably
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: just trade him Buddha Baker and a new offensive coach
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: who's coming with the right coaching tree. I think the
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: future is bright if we can land the number one
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: pick a young quarterback who has some sick offensive pieces.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: If they get the pick, are they a stock you
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: would buy If you told me the college season goes
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: really well with quarterbacks and you have a guy that's
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: viewed very, very highly, they would be a team that
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: you would buy stock in. Yes, because Trade McBride is
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: one of the best tight ends in the league. Let's
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: assume Jeremiah Love goes on to have a very good career.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison is a pretty big wild card. I think
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: they should be in the business of trading Sweat and
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: trading Buddha Baker and just really tearing this thing down
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: a little dolphin style throw almost a Jordan Beck, who
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: is a former linebacker Cal Poly was he I think
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: third round draft pic Atlanta Falcons did not work out well.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: He wasn't good, But I would think about trading veteran players.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: I think Sweat and Buddha Baker would have a lot
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: of value on the open market. Like if you told
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: me Fernando Mendoza was on their team, I think they
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: would be. They wouldn't be that good this year because,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: like you said, the schedule is brutal. And this gets
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: back to schedules. This is what makes the NFL cool.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: One year, your schedule can be a little easier. The
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: next year it's gonna rotate. So you just all of
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: a sudden, you're like, shit, we got Lamar Jackson Joe
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Burrow back to back games because we drew the AFC North.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Some years you draw you know, a bad Jags, a
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: colts team with no quarterback, and you know the NFC South.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: When the team that wins the division goes eight to nine.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: It just it's all kind of you know, changes year
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: to year. I think the NFC East last year good
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: division to draw. Giants were terrible, Commanders were in free fall.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: The Cowboys defense was awful. The Eagles at the end
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: of the season couldn't produce the first down drawn. In
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: this year probably gonna be a little bit more difficult.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: We're in college. It's like Jesus hey Man, big fan
• 53:04
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• 53:08
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• 53:11
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• 53:33
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• 53:37
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• 53:40
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• 53:56
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• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just want to go live in the
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  Speaker 1: fall after some of these games, and other than that,
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  Speaker 1: part of the on YouTube. You played more of an
• 54:10
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• 54:23
  Speaker 1: It's like you're playing a game, you know, on social media.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: This is not necessarily that. When you were in the NFL,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: did you or the team have beef with other front offices?
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Not talking about rivalries like the Eagles or the Cowboys,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: but did you actively root against certain people. Another note,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: did you laugh or make fun of certain teams when
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: they would make stupid decisions in free agency or the draft?
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: I think we're all human, so of course you would,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: especially you know, whether you're Howie Rosman or whether you're
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: me as a personnel assistant, You're like, that guy's an idiot,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: you know. I mean you do that in your industry.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I do that in the podcast world. We all do
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: that shit. And that's just these are dudes. Dudes talk
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: shit about other dudes, especially when they're competing against them,
• 55:28
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• 55:32
  Speaker 1: like other people. Sometimes you come across someone You're like,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: I don't like this person for whatever reason. Hopefully that
• 55:40
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• 55:43
  Speaker 1: you don't have the energy to hate this guy. But
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: there are gonna be certain people that come into your
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: life that you are going to despise. Well, some of
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: those people, as we all get older, are gonna be
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: in a working environment. May work for other companies, may
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: work for our own company. We may have worked with them,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: they may have left. I think that happens a lot.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: So in the NFL, think about it's a very nomadic profession.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: So if you look at a lot of coaches, or
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: you look at a lot of front office people, they've
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: bounced around a little bit. Well, they're going to work
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: with other people that you don't really like. I never
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: talked to somebody about like what do you think is
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: going on with X, Y and Z, Like, Oh, that
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: guy's kind of a douche. So I think it's pretty natural.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: But I don't think that is, you know, specific to
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: the NFL more than it would be working in the
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: booze business, working in the you know, I remember what
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: the guy did my landscaping. He came over and he's
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: like installing the turf and we were talking about's like
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, there's other three companies. Because I told
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: him about the other bids. I guys like, yeah, I
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: don't know what they're doing, but I've heard some horror stories.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just said natural reaction with guys. I
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: think you mentioned you have been you have a team
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: behind you that helps you negotiates sponsorship and Netflix deals.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: What does that team look like, how is it connected
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: to the Volume and where does Colin fall into all this? Well,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: the Volume is a big company. Right. So if we're
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: doing a pyramid, Colin and Jamie Horowitz are at the
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: top of the pyramid. So when these deals come through
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: for me specifically, I will get a text when it
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: comes to advertising, hey are you interested in this? Sometimes
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: it will be through my producers like Shane who will
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: just hit me up, Hey would you do this? And
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: the overwhelming majority of time I did this with James
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Forever who's now with Fat Joe and Jadakiss, I just
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: say yes. Like my number one reaction when it comes
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: to advertising deals is just going to be yes, So
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: I just say yes. Naturally, we have a sales team,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: so we have guys that sell shows, right, and a
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: lot of those guys came from Barstool, they were part
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: of They worked for Portnoy for years, so they know
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: how to sell advertising. When I went out to the
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Ryder Cup, I was there with Terrence, who sold the deal.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Guy's a fucking badass killer about to get married and
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: his job is a sales guy, you know. So we
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: have sales guys. We have from producers to social people
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: to people that focus on YouTube. The Netflix deal. Again,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: I could be speaking a little out of turn here,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure they went through iHeart, who we
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: are in business with. I don't know if you saw
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: the clip of Colin talking to Jeff Tigue, like, we're
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: partners with iHeart, So we have sales guys that for
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: a long period of time, before we built our sales staff,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: iHeart would sell the shows. So my main job here
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: is just to produce content. Now when I do am
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: needed on the sales side, they will bring me in
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: to talk to clients. Maybe I have an idea. I
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: had someone hit me up. I funneled the company to
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Terrence and we've been working with them. And then when
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: it's something as big as Netflix, they're like, hey, is
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: this something you'd be interested in in I'd say, well,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: what are they looking for? What type money are we
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: talking about? And it's pretty I have had an incredible
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've signed some contracts over the years, but
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: it's the majority of this has essentially been handshake deals
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: the whole time since I've been working for this. And
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I'm a pretty easy partner because I'm pretty low maintenance.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: You know, I produce shit every single day. I'm fucking
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: great with our partners and advertisers, and I take great
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: pride in that, and I've as we've expanded. I mean,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: we just have a lot of people doing different roles
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: like a lot of companies do, and they kind of
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: have to come to me, I guess for a final
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: say or if there's ever an issue, I'd run it back,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: you know, through people like I don't see this, but
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: that I don't even think that ever happens. But like
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: the Netflix deal doesn't just happen. And then I just
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden on Netflix. I didn't know about it.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: I was tipped off to gave a guy about like
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: a month before I said yes, someone said something like yeah,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: I'd be interested, and then it got more serious and
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: then and that's how like any quote unquote bigger deal happens,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: or hey I think we should try this, And sometimes
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: I'll be like hey, I'll shoot a group text, Hey
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: I think we should do this. But as it becomes
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: a bigger company, it's still like the corporate structure for
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: me in my crew, like it's there's just direct lines
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: of communication. If there are questions, anything changes. But we
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: got a lot of people doing a lot of things,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: so it's like I record this, I loaded into something.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: My guy Shane in the Northeast will throw this up
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: on Netflix. My guy Adam in Washington d c uh
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: somehow goes to Wizards games. I mean, now it might
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: be cooler, but I mean last year of Jesus well,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: you know, put the audio up and that's just this operation.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: And then Jackson will probably cut some social clips if
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: he's not fucking around somewhere. So that's just that was
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: a joke. You know. It's like, it's not just me
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: by any means. And I've been a part of the
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: podcast where it's just like me and the other guy
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: was guy and it was any from distribution to sales
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: to you name it, advertising, you did it all. It's impossible.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: It's impossible you actually make one thing I've learned, and
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: I would say this through a personal standpoint too, like
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: being married and having a family. You can only accomplish
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: so much by yourself, Like you have a ceiling as
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: an individual, and whether you're an entrepreneur and you start
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: your own coming, whether you work for someone else, you
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: need other people and help to maximize whatever your ceiling
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: is professionally and personally. And that this as you know,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: getting in on the early on this and watching it
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: grow like whatever, quote unquote, my success or financial success
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: is is, oh do a lot of different people who
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: over you know, are all having success individually as well,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: which I think we are so, and we just keep
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: growing and become more financially successful and critically acclaimed. I
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: don't give a fuck about any of that. But okay, well,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: well we got two more. Why isn't Liam Cohen talked
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: about in the same breath as Ben Johnson. He took
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: the Jags from worse to first, had a quarterback playing
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: like an MVP, and basically the same team from year before,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: and Baker looks worse without him. Simple man market, like
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: if you flip flop the two of them, we would
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: talk about Liam Cohn like Ben Johnson. There are certain
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: powerful markets in this league that if you do big
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: things for you get a lot of credit. And the
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: other thing is Ben Johnson had more momentum coming into
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: his job than Liam did. He had a great year
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: with Baker, but we had been talking about Ben Johns
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: for like three years, so you know, look at Mike McDonald.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: He wins the Super Bowl, but he had a ton
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: of momentum coming in from Baltimore where we had the
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: number one defense, So I think it's market size, it's momentum.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: I also think Liam Cohen's very highly thought of. Like
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: who's saying like, oh, Liam cons not that good. I
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: think we all agree he's good. Dad. Question and suggestion.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: I was curious if you and your wife were planning
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: on having more children, you should tell her we plan
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: on doing that right now as Jack cries all day
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: because he's sleepy because he won't take a nap. See
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: how that goes over. But yeah, I can't have one,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: gotta have two. I probably would have three. Uh, but
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: again I don't have to do as much heavy lifting.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: So I think we're shooting for two. And if shooting,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: I tried within you know, three days. She's pregnant, powerful
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: swimmers man if so my suggestion would be able to
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: convince yourself or your wife to wait until the baby
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: is born to find out the gender. My wife and
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I did, and we waited with our youngest and it
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: was one of the best surprises in moments of my life.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: It's been two years and I still think about this
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: moment all the time. Thanks for pumping out the content. Okay,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: we'll end on that. I think we're all wired a
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: little bit differently. Some of us have are more risk adverse,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: some of us are more willing to take chances. Some
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: of us are thrill seekers. Some of us like a
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: mundane life. Like I think every human obviously you have
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: other humans that are wired like you, but most of
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: us are different from our neighbors. Right. I hate surprises.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Let me rephrase that. I despise surprises. They are not anything.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: There's nothing about them that I enjoy, good or bad.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: So it's like, hey, I got a couple of things
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: to ask you. When someone texts me that. For example,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: this happened the other day. Goldie, one of our guys
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: here at the volume who is Colin's right hand guy,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: and he oversees a bunch of podcasts. He's like, hey,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: I want to run a couple of things by you.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: I just call him a minute later. I'm not like, yeah,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: well we'll touch base a little bit later today now.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: It was It was nothing negative or anything. It was
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: actually he's like, hey, I got a couple. You know
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: it's a couple, but I can't wait. I'm not a
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: I can't anticipate something, especially in this scenario that I
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: couldn't do it. She can't. She's I would say, even
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: more inclined to want to know. I mean, we were
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: driving all around town to like take ultrasounds to see
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: if we could see his face. It's like, God, we're
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: getting scammed talking about a fougauzi. But I hear you,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: and it probably was incredible and it would be pretty
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: thrilling to when the baby came out, boy or girl.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not wired to do that. And I also think
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: like the distress of not knowing, I just I can't
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: now at the powerful moment. I'd argue the powerful moment
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: of them is yanking him out for me already knowing
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: it was a boy was good enough. I just I
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: don't fall under the category of look forward to surprises.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: I would never want a surprise birthday. I just I
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: don't like surprises. I just don't for whatever reason. If
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: I ever or sat down with a therapist, maybe they
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: could tell me maybe that has something to do with
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: the innerwiring that was developed in my youth from my traumas.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: I fucking hate that word. I don't hate it for
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: people that actually, you know, had severe trauma in life,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: you know, like a student war or someone that grew
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: up in an area and saw things they shouldn't have
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: at a young age. But most humans, trauma is probably
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: a little overblown social media wise. On twenty twenty six,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: that would be a traumatizing I would say six months
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: for me waiting to know. Wouldn't like it because then
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: I think I would start assuming that it was going
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: to be something, and then if I was wrong, I
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be mad or something. I don't know.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: I just more power to you. I actually don't even
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: think I know anyone that's ever done that. I think
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: most people in my life that have have children all
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: found out immediately. I my wife sent found out even
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: before I remember she did like the early test, So
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: that wouldn't even be an option in my home even
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: if I was interested. Have a great Memorial Day, good
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: talking to everybody, and yeah, enjoy some bruskies. Talk to
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: you later. The volume