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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, February 18 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, February eighteenth. This is cat Lars Happy Hour,
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Duval Motor Company. And now
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Speaker 1: a guy who always looks at life through teal colored glasses,
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Speaker 1: Jay Peace, It might be time for an update. These
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Speaker 1: are black. That is the old primary color. Maybe I
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Speaker 1: need to go shopping. Welcome in. This is Jaguar's Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: My name is J. P. Shadrick. His name is Jeff Logman. Well,
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Speaker 1: his name was Joe Fortunado. This is Jeff Lockman from
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Speaker 1: his home studio. I'm at the stadium logs. Good afternoon.
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Speaker 1: We have a program ahead of us today, teal with it. Yes,
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Speaker 1: the primary color has changed. We'll hear from Jimmy Luck,
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Speaker 1: the head equipment manager. They'll show off some of that teal.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know what it looks like. The Jags
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Speaker 1: have worn this before. We will hear from Jimmy and
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Speaker 1: studio coming up about fifteen minutes or so. And what
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Speaker 1: is next? Now with the staff in place, we're inside
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Speaker 1: four weeks away from the start of free agency. Maybe
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Speaker 1: we'll list a few guys that the Jags could tag
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Speaker 1: or sign before then. Who do you keep, who do
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Speaker 1: you let go? Free agency right around the corner, and
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Speaker 1: we'll hear from Charlie Strong from the ozone podcast that
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Speaker 1: posted earlier today. He's the assistant head coach, the inside
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Speaker 1: linebackers coach, and he is reunited with Urban Meyer. Will
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Speaker 1: get into that coming up. Then our final thoughts on
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence's throwing session. Hey, Logs. By the way, breaking news,
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Speaker 1: the Mars rover has landed and guess what, there's still
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Speaker 1: Martian soil and rocks everywhere on Mars according to the
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Speaker 1: video I'm watching right now. I think teo glasses would
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Speaker 1: look sweet on you. I really do. I think you
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Speaker 1: should get some teal colored glasses. Of the frames, get
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Speaker 1: teal frames. Yeah, I like frames. What do you think
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Speaker 1: basic frames? The teal? You know it could yet? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Why not? Team be a team player, get the teal,
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Speaker 1: teal with it, the whole thing. That's what we're doing
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Speaker 1: this week, Like you know, hey, look, look, you know
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Speaker 1: I am. I am happy to hear that teal will
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Speaker 1: be the primary color. It has been the most victorious
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Speaker 1: of all Jaguar jerseys, and it goes back to the
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Speaker 1: roots of where this team was founded on and for me,
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Speaker 1: there was really there wasn't any other decision to make.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I understand they had a big campaign to
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Speaker 1: kind of have the fans get involved and and uh
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Speaker 1: and obviously they did and the fans spoke, and that's
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Speaker 1: all fine and Danny, But look, I never understood the
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Speaker 1: whole obsession with black. I don't I don't quite understand
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Speaker 1: that platte can be a great accent color. But if
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Speaker 1: you're gonna stand, you're gonna stand apart a little bit.
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Speaker 1: You gotta have your own color. And color that you
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Speaker 1: have been has been teal. So deal with it and
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Speaker 1: stick with it. Heal with it. Yes, and it hearkens
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Speaker 1: back to those mid to late nineties teams the first
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Speaker 1: few years. Of course you were a part of those
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Speaker 1: with some successful football teams as well. We'll hear from
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Speaker 1: Jimmy lock on just why the change was made, and
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Speaker 1: it was because of the fan response. A lot of
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Speaker 1: times on social media after our Wednesday during the season
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Speaker 1: happy hours, he would come on here and unveil the
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Speaker 1: uniforms and all heck would break loose on social media.
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Speaker 1: We'll hear from Jimmy and break that down a little
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Speaker 1: bit coming up also a little later. The final thoughts
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Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrence's throwing session. I'm sure you watched a
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Speaker 1: little of that. Logs will break that down and Charlie Strong,
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Speaker 1: we'll get a comment from him on the ozone podcast.
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Speaker 1: But now you know what's coming up next coaching staffs here, Yes, Locks,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna say something. I got a question, hit me, okay.
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Speaker 1: Charlie Strong. Who is the assistant head coach and and
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Speaker 1: obviously it was one of the first hires that erber
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Speaker 1: Meyer made. He was the first. Yes, and Charlie's experiences
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Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. Right, So when
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Speaker 1: you get hired, since you're the assistant head coach, I mean,
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Speaker 1: you probably get to pick the position that you get
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Speaker 1: to coach, right, I mean, because you're the assistant head coach.
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Speaker 1: I mean you're like the l f A two, you know,
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Speaker 1: I mean, the second guy in charge. Right. So do
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Speaker 1: you think that Charlie Strong came in and and urban said, hey, look,
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Speaker 1: you know I want to bring in and obviously you're
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Speaker 1: gonna be a big part of what we do. You're
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Speaker 1: gonna be my assistant head coach. And obviously you're experienced
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Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. Where do you
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Speaker 1: want to coach. Charlie Strong looked at the roster and said,
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Speaker 1: defensive line, got Josh Allen Helevanchas. That looks promising, but
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Speaker 1: really we don't even have any defensive tackles to speak of.
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Speaker 1: And then let's look at the secondary. Well, you know,
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Speaker 1: we got one guy we we feel good about, maybe
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Speaker 1: because he was the first round pick, but really, other
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Speaker 1: than that, we don't have a whole lot. And then
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Speaker 1: you don't get the linebackers. And you see two really
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Speaker 1: good football players and Joe Schobert and Miles Jack and
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Speaker 1: you go, I think I'll coach that crowd. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the assistant head coach and I'll take
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Speaker 1: linebackers or I love it. Hey, that's what it is.
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Speaker 1: He's the right hand man and he has the pick
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Speaker 1: of the litter, as they say. And we'll get into
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Speaker 1: that a little bit later coming up. But hey, the
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Speaker 1: staff's in now. That means we're inside four weeks from
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Speaker 1: the start of the league year logs. So the first
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Speaker 1: thing up for the staff is to figure out who's
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Speaker 1: on the team, evaluate what you have, figure out what
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Speaker 1: you want to bring back before the start of free agency.
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Speaker 1: Resigned early or franchise tag or all that, and then
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Speaker 1: once you get to free agency, what moves do you
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Speaker 1: want to make in that department. That's where they are
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Speaker 1: right now. This is that time frame where there's they're
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Speaker 1: studying this roster to try to figure out because the
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Speaker 1: franchise tag opportunity opens next week sometime. Is the first
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Speaker 1: chance to start tagging employ here and then you can
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Speaker 1: resign your guys if you want. There are a lot
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Speaker 1: of guys coming up for free agency. Yeah, there, you
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Speaker 1: can resign guys anytime. I mean, that's so that's the
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Speaker 1: one benefit of having your own free agents is that
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Speaker 1: you don't have to wait until free agency to talk
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Speaker 1: to your guys, and so that conversation can be ongoing.
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Speaker 1: But I'm sure that that recently with this coaching staff,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure it has been an absolute crash course and
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Speaker 1: evaluating the roster that you have because they need to
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Speaker 1: make some decisions and there's probably not a ton of them,
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Speaker 1: and some of the decisions that you have to make
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Speaker 1: aren't looming like you have to make them now, but
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Speaker 1: there's a few of them that you've got to make.
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Speaker 1: I mean, as far as guys that are going to
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Speaker 1: get free agency, and do you want to have a
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Speaker 1: conversation with those guys before that happened, So you want
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Speaker 1: to have the input from all of the new staff.
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Speaker 1: So I'm sure that that has been priority number one.
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Speaker 1: And then once that is done, evaluating your own roster
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Speaker 1: with your own coaching staff, and then you move on
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Speaker 1: to the next phase, or in conjunction with that phase,
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Speaker 1: you're evaluating the potential free agent crop because you want
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Speaker 1: to have some type of comparison, you know, so when
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Speaker 1: you evaluate your guys, you're also kind of putting that
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Speaker 1: on a scale of well, our guys like a six. Okay, well,
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Speaker 1: let's look of at all the positions the guys that
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Speaker 1: are a free agent at that position. Well, there's gonna
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Speaker 1: be three guys that we think are sevens. So maybe
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Speaker 1: you sit there and you say, okay, well, our guys
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Speaker 1: the six, we can do better with this guy in
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Speaker 1: free agency with who's a seven, And there's let's say
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Speaker 1: three of them that are gonna be available in free agency.
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Speaker 1: So let's not making resign our guy who's a six
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Speaker 1: of priority right now because we know we've got three
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Speaker 1: sevens and free agency if we get there and sevens
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Speaker 1: and sixes are of course, like a grade that I
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Speaker 1: would put on a player, that scouts would put on
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Speaker 1: a player. And so I think those are the things
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Speaker 1: that the coaching staff has to do now, because you
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Speaker 1: can't evaluate yours unless you can kind of compare with
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Speaker 1: what you else you can get elsewhere. And then once
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Speaker 1: you evaluate yours and then the free agent prop or
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Speaker 1: the expected free agent crop, then you turn to the
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Speaker 1: evaluation of the college draft class, and that's gonna be
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Speaker 1: really challenging. And I know that the Jaguars made some
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Speaker 1: hires this week to strengthen their personnel department that they
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Speaker 1: brought on with their general manager and uh, and those guys,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure are very trusted people. Uh, trusted people both
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Speaker 1: from the general manner standpoint and also from the head
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Speaker 1: coaching standpoint, because you can see that there's kind of
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a mix in the background, so
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Speaker 1: you can see that they're kind of, I don't want
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Speaker 1: to say, circling the truth. But they're bringing in people
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Speaker 1: now that are going to help them evaluate personnel, pro
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Speaker 1: personnel and college personnel. And that's the priority right now.
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Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta make the evaluations now because here
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Speaker 1: pretty soon it's gonna be time to start making decisions. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: here it comes. The decision making process is right around
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Speaker 1: the corner. So we're gonna play a game Todaylogs, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna go through a handful of painting a football game. No,
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Speaker 1: we're not playing a football game. It's a game in
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Speaker 1: evolving football. But it's not a football game. This is
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Speaker 1: pending free agents. We're gonna pick a few pending Jaguars
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Speaker 1: free agents and would you general manager Jeff Loghum and
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Speaker 1: resign them or figure out a way to keep them around?
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Speaker 1: How about that? Are you ready? Let's start with detail.
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Speaker 1: That's gonna be a really easy game, really easy game
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Speaker 1: for me. Let's go. Okay, cornerback d J. Hayden one
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Speaker 1: years old, absolutely bringing back. He's one of the best
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Speaker 1: nickel players that there is in the league. In my opinion.
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Speaker 1: I think he's an outstanding player and he would provide
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Speaker 1: great leadership. Well, it's a little early, we get going
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Speaker 1: to numbers. You know that we haven't had the full
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Speaker 1: cap ready, so this is kind of just a yes
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Speaker 1: or no kind of game. That's a good answer. Okay,
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Speaker 1: you're yes. Put you for a yes on DJ Hayden.
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Speaker 1: Tyler Eiffort tight end I want to see with out there.
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Speaker 1: And and the reason I say that is I think
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Speaker 1: Tyler Effort was solid. Uh, but for that position you
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Speaker 1: need dynamic and uh, and I want to have somebody
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Speaker 1: who's really dynamic. And you know the old thing I
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Speaker 1: was talking about. Okay, well there's your guy might be
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Speaker 1: a six, but there might be a guy out there
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Speaker 1: in free agency who's a seven. Well, the Tennessee Titans,
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Speaker 1: I believe, have a tight end. It's going to be
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Speaker 1: available in free age, possible possibly in free agency. And
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Speaker 1: John new Smith, I mean that's a whole another level
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Speaker 1: where where you can get at at the tight end position.
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Speaker 1: So for me, uh, that's not a priority. And I
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Speaker 1: would rather shop in the market and make an upgrade there.
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Speaker 1: For me, I'd rather draft a tight end because if
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Speaker 1: a tight end comes out in free agency, then the
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Speaker 1: original team probably has a reason why he's out there
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Speaker 1: in free agency. Right, not always, though, JP this year
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Speaker 1: is different. I mean, I think that argument can work,
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Speaker 1: I think in some years, but this year especially, that
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Speaker 1: argue that can be put on the show and the
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Speaker 1: reason why it's with the cap exfected to drop down
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Speaker 1: a D eighty million wherever it ends up, you're gonna
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Speaker 1: have a significant amount of teams they're not gonna have
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Speaker 1: a choice. Jp they're gonna have to cut ties with
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Speaker 1: guys they love, I mean that they absolutely love. And uh,
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Speaker 1: so you're gonna be able to find some guys that
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Speaker 1: aren't just okay, well, there's a reason why this god
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Speaker 1: is available because the other team, you know, they don't
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Speaker 1: like him. Well, the big reason is going to be
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Speaker 1: for some teams they can't get under the dag um cap.
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Speaker 1: I mean they don't have a choice. So you know,
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Speaker 1: take that kind out of your mind this year because
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Speaker 1: of the cap situation. Abrey Jones defensive tackle undrafted players
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Speaker 1: some years ago. Now he's thirty years of age. What
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Speaker 1: would you do with Abrey? I would probably move on
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Speaker 1: and uh because I think you like I like Abrey
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Speaker 1: and he has been one of the longest tenure Jaguars
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Speaker 1: And uh. But you've got a really good young player
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Speaker 1: that that you drafted last year and you're probably excited
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Speaker 1: about him, and you need to make a significant upgrade
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Speaker 1: at the defensive tackle spots. And and the upgrade needs
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Speaker 1: to happen when it comes to finding people that can
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Speaker 1: rush the passer and push the pocket, and that's not
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Speaker 1: what Avery does best. You know, Avery is kind of
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Speaker 1: a run player. He's solid, but you know you need
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Speaker 1: to make a you need to make a little step
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Speaker 1: up from solid. But look, here's the deal. I like
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Speaker 1: Avery Jones, and I'm not going to just ignore it
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Speaker 1: and say, hey, I don't need him. I'm moving on
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Speaker 1: from him. I'm having a conversation with Avery and that Hey,
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Speaker 1: I want to bring him back, but I want to
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Speaker 1: bring him back at a really affordable number. When I
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Speaker 1: say an affordable number, probably close to minimum. He ended
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Speaker 1: up year the year hurt last year. He hasn't been
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Speaker 1: a big numbers guy. Uh So for me, I think
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Speaker 1: you could probably do a deal that's close to minimum
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Speaker 1: and then let him come in and compete and uh
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Speaker 1: and see how you end up in free agencies, see
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Speaker 1: how you end up in the draft, and see how
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Speaker 1: how the competition ends up. I think I think you
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Speaker 1: bring him back. But I think you bring him back,
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Speaker 1: and he's not a you know, you're not gonna put
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Speaker 1: a big number on them. We're gonna get a few
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Speaker 1: more here before we head out to our first brake
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Speaker 1: logs Keelan cole Wide receiver. This is a position group
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Speaker 1: that has a little bit of star power to it.
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Speaker 1: Heal and Cole worked his way up as an undrafted player.
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Speaker 1: Now he'll be a free agent. Yeah. And I like
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Speaker 1: Clan Cole. I think he is a guy that you know,
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Speaker 1: going back to my days with the Jets, the head
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Speaker 1: equipment guy with the New York Jets, Bill Hampton, Sr.
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Speaker 1: Is an amazing guy. And and uh he had an
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Speaker 1: assistant JP that worked with him, and he was an
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Speaker 1: older fellow and his name was Mickey Rendin and we
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Speaker 1: used to have a lot of fun with Mickey. You know.
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Speaker 1: Mickey was a retired guy, you know, used to work
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Speaker 1: in the Yankees clubhouse forever, had a million stories about
13:56
Speaker 1: some of the all time great Jets and also some
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Speaker 1: of the all time great Yankees because he worked both clubhouses.
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Speaker 1: And he used to have a say in him and
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Speaker 1: Bill Hampton Senior, and it was the more you can do,
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Speaker 1: young man, the more you can do. And I think
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Speaker 1: that they used to tell us that all the time
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Speaker 1: because they just wanted us to help them fold towels
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Speaker 1: in the longer room, which we did. But I think
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Speaker 1: it applies to Keeling Cole because Keilan Cole does everything
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Speaker 1: that you ask of him. He does punt returns, kick returns,
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Speaker 1: He plays the all three positions at wide receiver, and
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Speaker 1: he doesn't with a smile on his face, and he
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Speaker 1: goes about his business. I think he's he's a strong professional,
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Speaker 1: and I like his work ethic and and is he
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Speaker 1: going to be a high price free agent? I don't
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Speaker 1: think he is. But I think he's gonna be an
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Speaker 1: affordable player. And I want to try to bring back
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Speaker 1: as as many good professional, affordable players as I can.
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Speaker 1: I want Keelan colback. Let's get one more. And we've
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Speaker 1: heard your thoughts about this next player already in preview shows,
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Speaker 1: but let's hear it again. Tyler Shatley, interior offensive line,
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Speaker 1: is going to be a free agent. He's been around
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Speaker 1: here as a backup for a long time. He's had
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Speaker 1: limited roles in starting opportunities when lender's hurt or when
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Speaker 1: one of the guards is out. Shatley could have a
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Speaker 1: chance to be a starter in this league. Do you
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Speaker 1: try to get him back? You obviously try right Well,
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Speaker 1: let me start by saying this about Tyler Shatley. Tyler
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Speaker 1: Shatley's value is probably more to this franchise than maybe
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Speaker 1: some other franchises because you're starting center hasn't been able
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Speaker 1: to still hasn't been able to stay healthy consistently, and
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Speaker 1: that's Brandon Lender. It seems like three out of four
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Speaker 1: years that Tyler Shatley is needed for quarter maybe half
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Speaker 1: of the season because of an injury that that Brandon
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Speaker 1: Lender sustained. So I would like to have him back
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Speaker 1: just because he has uh he's a very good center.
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Speaker 1: He's dependable, he's durable, he is a good solid player.
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Speaker 1: And on top of that, Tyler Shatley, I think this
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Speaker 1: past year really showed that he can be a starting
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Speaker 1: caliber center in this league, which may make it difficult
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Speaker 1: to bring him back. So I would like to see
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Speaker 1: him back, but I don't know if you're gonna be
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Speaker 1: able to afford him because he got a lot of
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Speaker 1: good film out there last year with the amount that
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Speaker 1: he played. And let me say this, JP, because I'm
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Speaker 1: one of those guys that that you know, you look
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Speaker 1: at the players and your roster is is I use
16:27
Speaker 1: a term that Dick Catchman, who used to be the
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Speaker 1: senior editor a Jaguars dot Com and he was pre
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Speaker 1: ozone and he used to say, and to call players,
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Speaker 1: you know, the jars on the sholf. And and I
16:38
Speaker 1: adhere to the philosophy that if you've got a roster
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Speaker 1: and those are your jars on the shelf, all the players,
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Speaker 1: I don't like taking jars off of that shelf unless
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Speaker 1: I get a little a prettier, more valuable jar to
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Speaker 1: put up there before I take one of them down.
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Speaker 1: You know. So I believe in competition. I believe in
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Speaker 1: making your roster as strong as you possibly can and
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Speaker 1: letting the competition decide which ones aren't at pretty to
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Speaker 1: take down. So keep them all up there until you
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Speaker 1: start at in real pretty ones and let him compete
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Speaker 1: and then take them all so so you'll probably I'll
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Speaker 1: probably end up saying a lot more keep them and yes,
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Speaker 1: I want him back, more so than I will say, no,
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Speaker 1: I want that guy gone. I want to replace, just
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Speaker 1: because I do like to have the competition, and you
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Speaker 1: would rather take a a put a good one up
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Speaker 1: there before you take one off. You're having a few
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Speaker 1: pending free agents. General manager Jeff Loghman making some early
17:38
Speaker 1: decisions before the start of the league year, and we're
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Speaker 1: back in a moment with head equipment manager Jimmy Luck.
17:45
Speaker 1: The teel primary uniforms have been announced. We'll get his
17:49
Speaker 1: thoughts on that a little later. Some Trevor Talk, you
17:53
Speaker 1: know Trevor is, and we'll go around the National Football
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Speaker 1: League Charlie Strong. Also we'll hear from the Jaguars sistant
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Speaker 1: head coach in the ozone podcast. All that coming up.
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Speaker 1: the media darling now of the Jaguars organization. Jimmy Luck
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Speaker 1: has been all over every media outlet in Jacksonville, Florida,
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Speaker 1: over the last two days. And we're glad you're on
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Speaker 1: this one. Jimmy. It's great to see you. What's well.
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Speaker 1: I've been hearing about it too, you know, even the
22:04
Speaker 1: new coaches they already on me about it that they
22:07
Speaker 1: are right. I mean, now, Jimmy's the star, right, you're
22:10
Speaker 1: the You're the guy. Jimmy has his own public relations staff,
22:14
Speaker 1: I mean releases, I mean very well written releases, statements,
22:18
Speaker 1: I mean pretty good. Yeah. Unfortunately, I've become the face
22:23
Speaker 1: of the teal rate of the Teal jersey, which is
22:25
Speaker 1: not a good I don't have I have a face
22:27
Speaker 1: for radio. Well, there you go. Um, it is something else.
22:31
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this was really a fan driven deal, Jimmy.
22:35
Speaker 1: I mean every Wednesday Unhappy Hour during the season, we
22:39
Speaker 1: unveil the uniforms for Sunday. You unveil the uniforms for Sunday.
22:43
Speaker 1: But um, you always get some kick back on social
22:45
Speaker 1: media because people are all over you. Yeah, no matter
22:49
Speaker 1: what I bring out they don't like. But that's I mean,
22:52
Speaker 1: that's part of it. It's it's fun though, to to
22:54
Speaker 1: interact with those guys and the fans. I mean, you know,
22:57
Speaker 1: they they're the ones that that wanted the Teal and
23:00
Speaker 1: as well as the players too. Um, you know we're
23:03
Speaker 1: trying to make everybody happy. Don't always do that, but uh,
23:06
Speaker 1: I think everybody's fired up about about going back to
23:09
Speaker 1: the Teal. So what would be the the combination with
23:14
Speaker 1: the pants? I mean, obviously the Teal jerseys the helmets
23:17
Speaker 1: will stay pretty much the same. So is it a
23:20
Speaker 1: combination with white pants, like going back to the beginning,
23:24
Speaker 1: Jimmy Worke. Might it be some different variations, maybe teel pants,
23:28
Speaker 1: maybe black pants. Yeah. I mean I would foresee us
23:31
Speaker 1: most of the time wearing the white pants with the
23:34
Speaker 1: Teal jerseys kind of like um, like back in the day.
23:38
Speaker 1: But also, um, you know, the all Teal went over
23:42
Speaker 1: really well, so I imagine us at least doing that once, um,
23:46
Speaker 1: and then maybe just to switch it up, you know,
23:48
Speaker 1: the black pants here and there, um, because I think
23:50
Speaker 1: that's I I like the contrast of the black and teal. Um.
23:54
Speaker 1: You know, we're probably not gonna wear that like September
23:56
Speaker 1: one when it's a thousand degrees outside, but um, you know,
24:00
Speaker 1: I definitely think we'll we'll get a combination of all three,
24:03
Speaker 1: but probably mostly the white with the deal and the
24:06
Speaker 1: home team determines the jersey and the teams themselves can
24:11
Speaker 1: determine the pants at a later date, right, that's correct. Yeah,
24:14
Speaker 1: so by June one, we've got to submit to the
24:17
Speaker 1: league what we want to wear for the home games. Um.
24:20
Speaker 1: So obviously, once the schedule comes out, I'll sit down
24:22
Speaker 1: with coach Meyer and Trent and say, Okay, hey, here's
24:26
Speaker 1: here's kind of what I think. Here's what we've done
24:28
Speaker 1: in the past, here's why we've done this, this and this,
24:30
Speaker 1: and then we'll make that determination on what color. Just
24:34
Speaker 1: take control of that situation, Jimmy. That works with of
24:38
Speaker 1: course the new staff involved here. Now, how many times
24:41
Speaker 1: can you wear or are you supposed to wear the
24:44
Speaker 1: primary jersey? Is that you could in theory wear that
24:47
Speaker 1: every home game if you wanted to write, since it's
24:50
Speaker 1: the primary jersey, or do get mixed in the black? Uh? No,
24:53
Speaker 1: that's we can wear it as many times as we want. Uh.
24:55
Speaker 1: And then also if for some reason somebody does like
24:58
Speaker 1: we do where that first game and it's hot and
25:01
Speaker 1: we make them wear a colored jersey, um, we would
25:04
Speaker 1: wear the teal for that. UM. I really don't see
25:07
Speaker 1: us wearing the black more than once or twice a year. UM.
25:12
Speaker 1: I think you know, we're some talk about, you know,
25:14
Speaker 1: since we've always worn that in London, maybe keeping that,
25:17
Speaker 1: you know, the jersey for London and then keeping the
25:20
Speaker 1: teal for for Duval and you know, for the fans
25:23
Speaker 1: here in the Nino four. What was your favorite teal memory?
25:27
Speaker 1: There were a lot of good games and teal back
25:29
Speaker 1: in the old days. Oh God, I mean to be
25:34
Speaker 1: honest with you, JP and Jimmy, I mean, I don't
25:37
Speaker 1: distinguish memories in football games based on what colored jersey
25:41
Speaker 1: that I was or wasn't wearing it. I mean it's
25:43
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I mean I can tell you this, Like
25:46
Speaker 1: going back to the Morton miss which propelled us into
25:49
Speaker 1: the playoffs in ninety six, I don't even remember what
25:52
Speaker 1: color jersey we were wearing at that time. My guests
25:55
Speaker 1: would be teal just because that was kind of the
25:57
Speaker 1: home color for us. Yeah, right, that's that's fine that
26:01
Speaker 1: you say that. A lot of the big moments, like
26:03
Speaker 1: obviously that one, and you know, seeing pictures of Fred
26:06
Speaker 1: running and Tony and all that, like you see him
26:08
Speaker 1: in the teel jerseys. So um, that's that's kind of
26:11
Speaker 1: cool to to bring that back and relive some of
26:14
Speaker 1: those memories. Yeah, the Atlantic game, that was. I grew
26:17
Speaker 1: up in Atlanta, so I remember that for the wrong reason.
26:19
Speaker 1: But right now what we need is the full cat
26:23
Speaker 1: on the sleeve again like the old days. Jimmy, can
26:26
Speaker 1: you do something about that? No, no, no, no, no,
26:28
Speaker 1: you don't like the cat. Come on, I don't. I
26:32
Speaker 1: do not like the full cat on the sleeve. And
26:34
Speaker 1: and the reason why, and Jimmy probably will attest to this.
26:38
Speaker 1: Most of your positional players and especially your offensive lineman.
26:43
Speaker 1: They don't want to have anything that may interrupt with
26:46
Speaker 1: their flow when it comes to the jersey going around
26:49
Speaker 1: the arms, because the less cloth that you can have
26:53
Speaker 1: around the shoulder pad, the better. And then when you
26:56
Speaker 1: have a logo cat that's right up here on your shoulder,
26:59
Speaker 1: it just messes with the flow a little bit. In
27:02
Speaker 1: my opinion, you might be the only person that doesn't
27:05
Speaker 1: like that you a cat on the helmet. I mean,
27:10
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't need a cat on the side.
27:12
Speaker 1: Come on, okay, it is it is tough to get
27:15
Speaker 1: a patch. Jimmy, Jimmy, that's true. Well, Jimmy will probably
27:21
Speaker 1: tell you. I mean, Jimmy, one of the things that
27:23
Speaker 1: I remember when I was in New York, we didn't
27:27
Speaker 1: have custom jerseys. When I came to Jacksonville at the
27:33
Speaker 1: equipment manager at the time, Bobby Monica, this was something
27:36
Speaker 1: that I never have ever seen in my life. And
27:39
Speaker 1: I know, Jimmy that you guys still do this to
27:41
Speaker 1: this day, that you have people that come into work
27:45
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Speaker 1: Taylor every jersey for that player's desires or needs. And
27:54
Speaker 1: when I was in New York, Jimmy. You probably remember
27:56
Speaker 1: they used to have like shoe string holes in the
27:59
Speaker 1: underneath of this part of the jersey, so you could
28:01
Speaker 1: string the jersey up nice and tight. Well, nowadays, Jimmy
28:05
Speaker 1: will have somebody come in and they'll have the player
28:07
Speaker 1: put the jersey on, and they'll they'll fold it and
28:10
Speaker 1: then mark it and literally take the fabric out. So
28:13
Speaker 1: these these jerseys literally fit like perfect gloves nowadays. Yeah,
28:18
Speaker 1: what we do what we normally end up doing nowadays,
28:21
Speaker 1: and some of that is we get it smaller and
28:22
Speaker 1: then add an insert in certain spots to to let
28:25
Speaker 1: it fit a little bit tighter. But yeah, you can
28:27
Speaker 1: do multiple things, Like there's still some stuff where like
28:30
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were always big about tying the jersey down
28:33
Speaker 1: like right there in the front um and some of
28:35
Speaker 1: those things. Yeah, but now with um, you know, we've
28:38
Speaker 1: we're fortunate enough to have Cornell. He comes in pretty
28:41
Speaker 1: much every day during the season and take a little
28:43
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28:46
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28:49
Speaker 1: it's it helps everybody. Jimmy, you see the video after
28:53
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28:58
Speaker 1: They put out the video which Shall and Jaguars Defensive
29:01
Speaker 1: End and it's pretty darn cool. I don't know if
29:04
Speaker 1: you saw that right now. I'm sure you did. We're
29:06
Speaker 1: looking at it now on Jaguars dot com. Some of
29:08
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes footage of that that will be
29:10
Speaker 1: available on Jaguars dot com. But it's cool to have
29:12
Speaker 1: Josh involved in that announcement the other day, Jimmy, Yeah,
29:15
Speaker 1: it was cool. Yeah, I got with with peakalv and
29:18
Speaker 1: Everett and all those guys and to get Josh and
29:21
Speaker 1: stuff for that and uh, yeah, it turned out really well. Um,
29:24
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. The little place they did that over
29:26
Speaker 1: at the glass factory. Oh that's where that was, what
29:29
Speaker 1: kind of neat warehouse looking things, so in the rail
29:32
Speaker 1: Lyard district over across the interstate here. Yeah, pretty deat,
29:35
Speaker 1: really cool stuff. Check it out Jaguars dot com or
29:38
Speaker 1: the at Jaguars social media accounts. Uh. And it's been
29:42
Speaker 1: a big week for Jimmy Luck, but we'd like to
29:45
Speaker 1: think that this is part of your big week and
29:47
Speaker 1: thank you for taking the time out, Jimmy. Appreciate you
29:49
Speaker 1: as always, and we'll talk to you again, Sue. All right,
29:52
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29:58
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30:01
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30:02
Speaker 1: you've got a lot going on right now. This is
30:04
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30:06
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30:08
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30:11
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35:01
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35:07
Speaker 1: laborum apparently went very well. And all should be on
35:12
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35:15
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35:23
Speaker 1: training camp. So it's all good in the quarterback world.
35:28
Speaker 1: And it was a big message, you know, with with
35:30
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35:33
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35:35
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35:40
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35:44
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35:49
Speaker 1: showed in clips in the other day logs. Yeah, I
35:54
Speaker 1: thought it was pretty neat. Not very often that you
35:57
Speaker 1: get to have one of the greatest college coaches of
36:00
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36:03
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36:06
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36:08
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36:13
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36:17
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36:20
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36:22
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36:25
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36:28
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36:30
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36:36
Speaker 1: because obviously the conversation happens to allow something like this
36:39
Speaker 1: to happen so that he can go ahead and have
36:41
Speaker 1: the surgery. So it's just pretty interesting though that he
36:44
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36:47
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36:51
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36:53
Speaker 1: So if anybody had an idea that well maybe you know,
36:57
Speaker 1: the Jaguars might pick somebody else, well I throw that
37:00
Speaker 1: out the window after after what Remire just said right there.
37:04
Speaker 1: But but pretty cool stuff. I was very surprised at
37:08
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37:11
Speaker 1: a little bit more, uh say, he was like in
37:14
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37:17
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37:21
Speaker 1: I think that's somewhere that he probably is gonna need
37:23
Speaker 1: to be once he gets at the NFL level. I
37:26
Speaker 1: think it will help him a little bit um But
37:29
Speaker 1: if it's not something that he that he needs to do,
37:31
Speaker 1: that's fine. I'm not saying that it's an absolute must,
37:33
Speaker 1: but I think it would help him. I think it
37:35
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37:38
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37:40
Speaker 1: So but I don't think there's any kind of concern
37:43
Speaker 1: about the surgery, because that's one of the things that
37:45
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37:48
Speaker 1: could this do to Trevor. No, No, this is not
37:52
Speaker 1: going to impact him whatsoever. It's a non throwing shoulder
37:57
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a it's a small procedure for
37:59
Speaker 1: the most art And I want to say it's a
38:01
Speaker 1: minor procedure, because the only minor procedures are the ones
38:06
Speaker 1: that are on somebody else and not you. And obviously
38:08
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that for Trevor Larch because
38:10
Speaker 1: I've had many surgeries and for the most part of
38:13
Speaker 1: a labrom terror is pretty minor. Or should I say,
38:17
Speaker 1: something that's not that big of a deal to rehab
38:20
Speaker 1: from so he should be fine and UH on track
38:23
Speaker 1: to be the Jaguars number one pick. Overall. I know
38:25
Speaker 1: you never played quarterback, but of all the surgeon JP, whoa, whoa, whoa,
38:30
Speaker 1: whoa whoa excuse me, I played quarterback. I played quarterback.
38:36
Speaker 1: What was this? I was? I was a quarterback going
38:41
Speaker 1: all the way back to when I played for the Lions,
38:45
Speaker 1: the Rams, the Braves, um uh, and then my freshman
38:53
Speaker 1: year in high school, I was a quarterback. But then
38:57
Speaker 1: one of my good friends, Randy Boyer, beat me out
39:00
Speaker 1: at quarterbacks. They're like, look, you lost, so we want
39:05
Speaker 1: you to play because you're pretty good, and we want
39:08
Speaker 1: to have our best players on the field, so we're
39:10
Speaker 1: gonna play you a tight end. Like cool. But I was.
39:13
Speaker 1: I mean, in my mind, I was gonna be the quarterback,
39:16
Speaker 1: end play middle linebacker. And when I was in JP,
39:19
Speaker 1: when I was in little league, I want to say,
39:20
Speaker 1: it was for the Bears, No, the Braves. When I
39:23
Speaker 1: was a quarterback for the for the Braves, and I
39:25
Speaker 1: don't it was like see league whatever grade that was.
39:27
Speaker 1: It was like elementary school or whatever. I even used
39:30
Speaker 1: to call my own plays. Can you believe that? I mean,
39:34
Speaker 1: I was like in second and third grade, calling my
39:36
Speaker 1: own plays or quarterback. And I'm gonna tell you when
39:39
Speaker 1: we got into that hotel, we ran, I mean we
39:42
Speaker 1: were a powerhouse football team. We ran seventeen sweep, we
39:46
Speaker 1: ran eighteen sweep. We didn't have very many plays that
39:50
Speaker 1: were called with a two and the three in front
39:52
Speaker 1: of the number there was there was seventeens, fourteen, sixteen
39:56
Speaker 1: eighteen because the number one, you know, who gets the
39:58
Speaker 1: ball when it's the number one is the first didgett?
40:01
Speaker 1: Who's that? Logs? Do you tell them back? Baby? There
40:05
Speaker 1: you go, I was calling on plays. I'll run of it. Well,
40:07
Speaker 1: we're taking the scenic route right now to get to
40:10
Speaker 1: my point, but we'll continue down this path. Just because
40:13
Speaker 1: what was your record as a starter Logs as a quarterback,
40:18
Speaker 1: I don't even know criticize other starting quarterbacks. Pretty good yours.
40:25
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. Now. My whole point of this conversation
40:29
Speaker 1: was of all the surgeries you've had, which are many.
40:33
Speaker 1: Did you ever have a shoulder labor repair? Yeah? Yeah,
40:38
Speaker 1: both of them. Yeah. Um. Matter of fact, had my
40:43
Speaker 1: my left one done when I was in New York,
40:47
Speaker 1: and then I had a major surgery on my right
40:51
Speaker 1: shoulder the following year, and uh and then obviously Dr Kaplan,
40:57
Speaker 1: thank you very much, jo I and Dr Kaplan. He
41:00
Speaker 1: has also fixed up some laboring issues recently. But most importantly,
41:04
Speaker 1: I had full blown rotator cuff repair. So but the
41:08
Speaker 1: labor out of all the shoulder surgeries that I had JP,
41:11
Speaker 1: which was complete rotator cuff repairs and bow shoulders. And
41:16
Speaker 1: then on my right shoulder I had an antior interior
41:19
Speaker 1: capsular shift and a minor labor fixing. And on my
41:22
Speaker 1: left shoulder it was a minor labor the labor m
41:25
Speaker 1: in my left and the labor in my right which
41:27
Speaker 1: was in conjunction with the bigger surgery. So the labor
41:30
Speaker 1: was like no big deal at all. It was like, okay,
41:33
Speaker 1: it was uncomfortable to sleep for a couple of weeks,
41:35
Speaker 1: and then four to six eight weeks later, man, I
41:38
Speaker 1: was ready to rock and roll. So not a big deal.
41:40
Speaker 1: If anyone would know, it's Jeff Logaven. He's been cut
41:44
Speaker 1: on so many shoulders. Now there's I mean, other parts
41:47
Speaker 1: of the body. I probably can't comment as much on.
41:50
Speaker 1: Like I haven't had many a lot of elbow surgeries.
41:53
Speaker 1: I had a torn bicep tenant, but no, no, no
41:55
Speaker 1: other issues there knees. I've had the A c L microfracts,
42:00
Speaker 1: or's the the m c ls, the pc l s.
42:03
Speaker 1: I mean like I've had all the alphabets. Yeah, if
42:06
Speaker 1: you need an expert on herniea repair, I got you covered.
42:09
Speaker 1: All that other stuff I don't know, but I got
42:11
Speaker 1: yelling that one to JP. Where were your too much info?
42:13
Speaker 1: But that's okay. We're not gonna go down that path
42:15
Speaker 1: any further. We're gonna come back in my head. I
42:17
Speaker 1: had the umbilical I had the umbilical hernia. You know
42:20
Speaker 1: where you by any became an AUTI. I remember one
42:23
Speaker 1: day I looked down and I had like a hot
42:25
Speaker 1: dog sticking out of my belly. I'm like, what the
42:27
Speaker 1: hell's going on? If I go see the doc and
42:30
Speaker 1: I'm like, doc, what's going on? And he takes his
42:32
Speaker 1: finger and he pushes the intestine back into my belly button.
42:35
Speaker 1: Then I went back to an any, I'm like, what's
42:37
Speaker 1: going on? And he said, we have a tear in
42:39
Speaker 1: your muscle wall there, and that's why you get the
42:42
Speaker 1: little protrusion there. He goes, when that thing, you gotta
42:45
Speaker 1: be careful. If it gets stuck out, you can lose
42:47
Speaker 1: the blood supply to that part of your stomach. It
42:49
Speaker 1: wouldn't be good, but you had I'm an any guy.
42:52
Speaker 1: I have an any but I had an AUTI for
42:54
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42:57
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43:00
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43:01
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43:04
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46:55
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Speaker 1: guy that has been around Urban Meyer and for for
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Speaker 1: a long long time. They go back to the old
47:44
Speaker 1: days at Notre Dame when they first met. And you know,
47:49
Speaker 1: obviously Strong has been an assistant at Florida through three
47:54
Speaker 1: different coaches, Spurrier, ron Zook and urban Meyer. And he
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Speaker 1: himself was a head coach a number of different places.
48:01
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48:04
Speaker 1: it comes to join urban Meyer again, Logs and you know,
48:09
Speaker 1: it's a relationship that goes back a long long way.
48:12
Speaker 1: That's why, as we mentioned earlier, he was the first
48:15
Speaker 1: Higher urban Meyer maid on this staff. Yeah, I think
48:19
Speaker 1: that's uh, you know, when you when you take a
48:21
Speaker 1: job like that, most of your head coach is one
48:23
Speaker 1: of the things that they do is they try to
48:26
Speaker 1: surround themselves with people number one that they can trust
48:30
Speaker 1: and number two that are really good coaches. And I
48:33
Speaker 1: think Charlie Strong obviously fits both those categories for Urban
48:36
Speaker 1: Meyer and and a good higher. You know that the
48:39
Speaker 1: two have had great success together and so they're gonna
48:41
Speaker 1: try to replicate it at the NFL level. And I
48:43
Speaker 1: look forward to watching and you know, and Jp most importantly,
48:46
Speaker 1: you know, I look forward to at some point getting
48:50
Speaker 1: to know some of these coaches. I mean, obviously, with
48:52
Speaker 1: COVID it has changed the dynamic obviously a tremendous amount
48:56
Speaker 1: where we don't get to spend a lot of time
48:58
Speaker 1: around some of these guys. But uh, but I hope
49:01
Speaker 1: the day returns to where we can get back to
49:05
Speaker 1: a little bit more normalcy. I guess you could say
49:08
Speaker 1: when it comes to football stuff, but you know, I
49:11
Speaker 1: don't know when that's gonna happen. And I think too
49:14
Speaker 1: that even though that urban Meyer and look, some other
49:18
Speaker 1: staffs in the National Football League that are new this
49:20
Speaker 1: year have put together, obviously some great staffs, and Mark
49:24
Speaker 1: Burnell is part of a really good staff in Detroit,
49:27
Speaker 1: and I think it's unfortunate that the fan base won't
49:29
Speaker 1: get to know them, probably as well as they have
49:33
Speaker 1: in the past, just because the lack of access with COVID.
49:36
Speaker 1: So so when urban Meyer talks about how he wants
49:40
Speaker 1: to put together one of the best coaching staff that
49:42
Speaker 1: there is to give the players the best, I just
49:45
Speaker 1: wish that the fans could get a little bit more
49:47
Speaker 1: of a glimpse into that like they have in the past.
49:50
Speaker 1: But I think that this year that may not be
49:53
Speaker 1: the case, but hopefully we can get and the Jaguars
49:56
Speaker 1: are able to get a lot of information out there,
49:58
Speaker 1: which I'm sure that some of that stuff will be
50:00
Speaker 1: put out a house. So uh, but I'm excited about
50:03
Speaker 1: Urban staff. I mean, I'm glad that, uh, the misstep
50:07
Speaker 1: that he took by hiring Doyle was fixed. Um. I
50:13
Speaker 1: didn't really know much about about Chris Doyle when he
50:15
Speaker 1: was hired, and then obviously a lot of the questions
50:17
Speaker 1: made you read more, and obviously there was concerned there
50:22
Speaker 1: and with with that higher and one of the reasons
50:25
Speaker 1: I think that made me be concerned about is that
50:27
Speaker 1: when former players put their names on it, are willing
50:29
Speaker 1: to talk openly about it and put their names on it.
50:32
Speaker 1: Typically where they're smoked, there's fire there. And so the
50:36
Speaker 1: Jaguars rightfully corrected it. Whether you want to call it
50:40
Speaker 1: a resignation or whatever, but I think a lesson learned there,
50:42
Speaker 1: JP and uh, and good to see that that was fixed,
50:45
Speaker 1: because you know, all that would have been is just
50:47
Speaker 1: a dark cloud over over a staff then and and
50:51
Speaker 1: the excitement, I mean it would have just it would
50:52
Speaker 1: have it would have brought everything down and would have
50:56
Speaker 1: taken away a lot of the excitement of what urban
50:58
Speaker 1: Meyer is doing and what the jazz bars are doing,
51:00
Speaker 1: and I'm glad they fixed it well. I said this
51:03
Speaker 1: on a podcast the other day, and I understand the
51:06
Speaker 1: football reasoning behind it from Urban Meyer because the guy
51:11
Speaker 1: had been at Iowa since and Iowa is not really
51:16
Speaker 1: known for getting five star players all the time. It's
51:19
Speaker 1: not Alabama where they're having top recruiting classes all the time.
51:22
Speaker 1: So basically you have to recruit and develop players into
51:26
Speaker 1: becoming better football players. And they've had success on the
51:29
Speaker 1: field there, you know, ten win seasons and such sustained success.
51:33
Speaker 1: It's not like they're winning the Big Ten every year,
51:35
Speaker 1: but they're in the picture and occasionally will go and
51:38
Speaker 1: get to the Rose Bowl and do that stuff. But
51:40
Speaker 1: they have a track record of doing that, So I
51:43
Speaker 1: get from the football perspective of that. But the other thing,
51:46
Speaker 1: uh was the prevailing issue obviously, and it overrode a
51:51
Speaker 1: lot of that in the public perception, and so the
51:53
Speaker 1: move had to be made. And I'm curious what's going
51:55
Speaker 1: to happen moving ahead with that position. Does he have
51:58
Speaker 1: somebody in the hopper already? Do they changed the structure
52:01
Speaker 1: of how that side of the building here is set up.
52:03
Speaker 1: But that's all things we just don't know yet. Yeah,
52:07
Speaker 1: and and that was kind of curious too, that you know,
52:10
Speaker 1: you have, you know, the sports performance type of coach,
52:14
Speaker 1: you know, which obviously can encompass a lot of areas.
52:16
Speaker 1: But when they initially announced it, boy, that job that
52:20
Speaker 1: he was gonna fill, I mean, had uh far reaching
52:25
Speaker 1: um influence in the organization. I was like, wait a minute,
52:29
Speaker 1: that that that doesn't make any sense, you know. I
52:31
Speaker 1: mean I don't want to put a excuse me for this,
52:35
Speaker 1: but you don't put a strength coach who is in
52:37
Speaker 1: charge of of medical training staff. I mean that didn't
52:41
Speaker 1: quite understand that. But anyway, who knows what's gonna happen
52:45
Speaker 1: in the future. Um. But but like I said, I'm
52:49
Speaker 1: glad that that was fixed just because, I mean, it
52:51
Speaker 1: was just sucking the energy out of any positivity that
52:54
Speaker 1: you had generated with the hiring of urban Meyer. And
52:59
Speaker 1: uh surprised that they didn't anticipate that and not not
53:05
Speaker 1: have to have a correction. Yeah, I feel I feel
53:09
Speaker 1: like they anticipated some heat, but I don't think they
53:13
Speaker 1: expected the heat to be as hot as it was.
53:15
Speaker 1: So the change was made. Now it's moving possibly, you know,
53:19
Speaker 1: because look good. The good thing is is that you
53:23
Speaker 1: fixed it. But I think even for some people out there,
53:28
Speaker 1: just the fact that you had to fix it, I
53:30
Speaker 1: think is for some people JP that's disappointing. And if
53:34
Speaker 1: some people don't want to have to have something like
53:37
Speaker 1: that to be criticized to get fixed. And most people say, well, look,
53:40
Speaker 1: if you're gonna make if we're making progress, then we
53:43
Speaker 1: shouldn't have to speak and and make ourselves heard to
53:48
Speaker 1: say what are we doing here? And to fix something
53:51
Speaker 1: like that, you know what I mean? In other words,
53:53
Speaker 1: the the the action that was taken initially should have
53:57
Speaker 1: taken all of this into account and should have been considered.
54:01
Speaker 1: And but but anyway, nonetheless it's in the past and
54:05
Speaker 1: and everything is is moving forward for this team. And
54:08
Speaker 1: now I think with free agency looming right around the
54:11
Speaker 1: corner and the Jaguars in such a great position financially,
54:15
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of positivity coming to this
54:18
Speaker 1: organization because there's gonna be a lot of negativity for
54:23
Speaker 1: a lot of football teams this year. They are going
54:25
Speaker 1: to be struggling to find a way to get below
54:27
Speaker 1: the cap. Whenever they announced that and and for JP,
54:31
Speaker 1: for a lot of teams. Man, they're all sitting back
54:33
Speaker 1: going what's the number gonna be? You know, because they're
54:36
Speaker 1: almost in a holding pattern until they find out what
54:39
Speaker 1: this number is gonna be so that they can make
54:41
Speaker 1: decisions of who they have to cut and then also
54:44
Speaker 1: who can they resign. And I wish the league would
54:48
Speaker 1: make that announcement and decision sooner than later. Let's go
54:52
Speaker 1: around the National Football League and start with some of
54:56
Speaker 1: that news that came out today lugs about the league,
55:00
Speaker 1: the nflp A agreeing to increase the salary cap floor
55:05
Speaker 1: to million dollars. That will be the the low end
55:09
Speaker 1: of the salary cap. The final cap number will come
55:12
Speaker 1: after some financial reports are completed. That should be fairly soon,
55:16
Speaker 1: but they're still waiting on a couple of final things
55:20
Speaker 1: with it. Just let's get the number figured out and
55:24
Speaker 1: just give the teams the number. Because JP, if you've
55:28
Speaker 1: got a floor of one eighty, if all of a a
55:30
Speaker 1: sudden the number becomes five, I mean that's your decision
55:35
Speaker 1: making is altered and could be in a significant way
55:38
Speaker 1: with five million dollars of room. So I mean, look,
55:40
Speaker 1: let's let's get that number figured out so that everybody
55:43
Speaker 1: can move forward. Carson Wentz traded to the Indianapolis Colts
55:48
Speaker 1: for its third round pick, a conditional second round pick
55:51
Speaker 1: in two that would become a first rounder. Off Wentz
55:54
Speaker 1: place se of the Snaps this season or seventy and
56:00
Speaker 1: the Colts make the playoffs. That's Mike Garret photo of
56:02
Speaker 1: the NFL Network, who had all those numbers earlier today.
56:05
Speaker 1: What do you think of Carson Wentz, especially in Indianapolis
56:08
Speaker 1: now twice a year. Well, first off, I hope he's
56:13
Speaker 1: the quarterback that played last year because he wasn't very
56:16
Speaker 1: good and he didn't have any rhythm, He had no confidence,
56:20
Speaker 1: and you could tell that his teammates were frustrated by
56:23
Speaker 1: his play. But if he is the potential m v
56:27
Speaker 1: P type candidate, which he was a couple of years ago,
56:30
Speaker 1: he can be a pretty scary player because he's got
56:32
Speaker 1: great mobility and he's got some size. But you know that,
56:35
Speaker 1: I think this is another example, and Jared Goff was
56:38
Speaker 1: the other one, two guys in the same draft last
56:40
Speaker 1: that both teams paid him when they shouldn't have, and
56:43
Speaker 1: both general manager, especially Less Sneat, has made multiple mistakes
56:47
Speaker 1: with the Rams I'm very surprised that that he's still
56:50
Speaker 1: kind of rolling along after trading away Jared Goff, after
56:54
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56:56
Speaker 1: away more draft equity. I mean, the Rams have like
56:59
Speaker 1: zero draft equity in the in the future, and I
57:03
Speaker 1: just I don't know how they're gonna keep building football
57:05
Speaker 1: teams in l A. But anyway, Carson Wentz, look, I
57:08
Speaker 1: hope he gets better, just because you know, I thought
57:10
Speaker 1: he was a really good player a couple of years ago.
57:12
Speaker 1: But then at the same token, JP, Look, I'm all
57:15
Speaker 1: about the Jaguars, and if he ends up playing like
57:17
Speaker 1: he did last year, good for the Jaguars. And and
57:20
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57:23
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57:27
Speaker 1: From two thousand nine to there were twenty two first
57:32
Speaker 1: round pick quarterbacks logs. None of those guys are with
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Speaker 1: their original team anymore. Wins was the last holdout today.
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Speaker 1: That's crazy, yeah, which is which is pretty amazing, And uh,
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Speaker 1: it just goes to show you how much I don't
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Speaker 1: want to say a crap shoot, but there's no guarantees
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Speaker 1: even with the first overall picking the draft. I mean,
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Speaker 1: because you're talking about the first overall picking the draft
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Speaker 1: and the second overall picking the draft that just got
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Speaker 1: traded this year, I mean, and Carson Winson, Jared Golf.
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Speaker 1: I mean, so I'm not trying to to be Debbie
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Speaker 1: Downer here when it comes to Trevor Lawrence, but I'm
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Speaker 1: just saying, look, just because somebody's picked number one overall
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Speaker 1: at the quarterback physician doesn't make them automatically gonna be
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Speaker 1: a great player. You know, you hope that they're gonna
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Speaker 1: be the Peyton Mannings or the John Elways or you know,
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Speaker 1: the franchise type guys, and uh, but uh, that's not
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Speaker 1: a guarantee. And finally, J J. Watt, a free agent
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Speaker 1: cut by the Texans this week. I think he's a
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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer already. He's still got some years left.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, where do you think he lands lives? What
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Speaker 1: would be the best spot for him? Quickly in a minute, Well,
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Speaker 1: I mean, look, uh, everybody's talked about a couple of
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Speaker 1: different landing spots. There's been talked that he's excited about
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Speaker 1: maybe going to Cleveland, maybe going back to going to
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh to play with his brothers, but Pittsburgh has serious
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Speaker 1: cat issues. Buffalo is in the mix, supposedly, and JJ
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Speaker 1: would like to try to win a championship. Um the
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Speaker 1: reality is is that j J is not going to
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Speaker 1: command the type of money that he has in the
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Speaker 1: past because he doesn't play to that level anymore. He's
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Speaker 1: still a very good football player, but he's not an
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Speaker 1: m VP candidate anymore like he was a year and
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Speaker 1: a year out for a while. But he can help
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Speaker 1: a team, there's no doubt about it. And I think
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Speaker 1: he's also got to be able to limit some of
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Speaker 1: his snaps. But who knows where he's gonna end ue.
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Speaker 1: We'll find out, probably sooner rather than later. He says
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Speaker 1: he's no rush, he's got some time. He's a free
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Speaker 1: agent now. We'll see what the market holds Logs will
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Speaker 1: talk to you again next week. Had a great weekend,
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Speaker 1: Joe Fortunato, Brent Reaver, thanks to Jimmy Luck. I'm j P. Shadrick.
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