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S4 77. MUFON Group Talk – All things Strange · Millennial Mustard Seed

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  Hello folks. This is Princess.
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  You are listening to the Millennial Mustard.
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  That's tough. We're in a very tough spot.
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  I think that what we're doing right now is a great benefit in
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  virtue because it's an end around between this whole
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  corrupt informational system, media system.
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  We claim to believe in a God who spoke the universe into
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  existence. And literally raised himself
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  from the dead. And yet we're not going to
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  believe that anything else exists in the spirit realm, even
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  though his word tells us that they do.
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  Their bodies weren't permitted to go to sleep like humans do,
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  and they weren't permitted to go to heaven.
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  So they wander the earth. You know, I've seen the eyes
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  turn black to unknown tongues being spoken.
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  These giants were way up in the island.
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  The young Braves, the young men would hide them in the trees.
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  They wait for one of these 12 footers to come walking down the
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  bath, and they would jump on them and kill them and drag them
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  back to the village. And the village would feast on
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  the body. Then people start to get
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  weapons. They start to get armor, They
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  start to build cities. They start to fortify their
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  cities. Now God looks down and there's
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  violence everywhere. The battle, this war that we are
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  at is not against each other. It's against these
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  principalities and these rulers and these archons.
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  In the high places, it's really worthwhile to read the Bible.
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  Yourself fear. Is one of the primary drivers of
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  mind control because we have to take every thought captive and
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  resist fear. You're going to have a testimony
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  that is a justice case against the Kingdom of Darkness.
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  Welcome back to the Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast.
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  I'm your host, Rod and thank you for being here with me.
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  I have a bombshell episode in store for you guys.
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  This is a round table episode with.
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  Chuck and Mav from Fire Theft Radio.
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  We have Nate from Midnight Mysteries Radio.
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  He's also the Community Connections director for Mufant
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  in Canada. And then Enoch Putris From the
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  rundown of our reality. We dive into a bunch of crazy,
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  cool topics that are going to be edifying.
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  They're going to connect some dots for you guys.
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  Really. I'm interviewing everybody.
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  On this episode it kind of turns out that I just drop questions.
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  I just fire questions at these guys and just to see the flow of
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  the conversation and it's edifying and eye opening and and
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  everything you would imagine with such an amazing group of
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  guys joining me for this round table episode.
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  Also for you guys that love the pre talk conversation.
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  Not that I've done this many times, but at the very end of
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  the episode, after the music plays, there's about 10 minutes
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  of us talking. Maverick leads us in prayer and
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  just some testimonies and some really cool stuff at the end of
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  this episode. So if you're into that type of
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  thing, stick around and you can listen to that conversation as
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  well. And I'm going to keep it short
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  that budget so that I can make all the ends meet with gas
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  money, with hotel, stuff like that.
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  This is traveling for ministry. This is not for vacation.
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  This is doing what God is calling me to do, and he's
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  opening up the door, So I'm depending on the body to help me
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  make this happen. That's all I got to say.
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  Let's get right into this episode, and I'm ready.
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  You guys ready? Let's go.
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  Well, welcome back to the show, everybody.
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  I have an awesome episode in store for you guys.
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  This is a squad of Christ's representatives.
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  We are ambassadors for the Kingdom and I'm just want to
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  introduce everybody here. We have Chuck from Fire Theft
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  Radio, which you guys are familiar with at this point.
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  We have Nathan from Canada. He was on last year, so it's an
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  honor to have him back with us. We have Enoch Cutris from the
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  rundown of our reality. You guys know exactly who I'm
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  talking about, and I have the honor of also being here with
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  Maverick Pilgrim, who teams up with Chuck over on Fire theft
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  radio. So you guys should know that
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  voice by now. And gentlemen, it's an honor to
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  be here with you guys. Thank you.
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  Thanks for having me. Yeah.
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  Thanks for having us. On Very glad to be here.
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  Yeah, man, I'm. I'm super stoked.
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  I was a little bit like Enoch. I almost didn't get up in time.
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  I don't know what happened to my alarm here, but it's all good.
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  It's good Saturday morning. That's it and thanks for
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  wrapping me out. I just if I said if I go down,
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  he's gotta go down with me, you know, I mean.
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  I had a feeling to call Enoch. I was like, I have a feeling I
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  should call him and make sure he's awake.
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  I was grumpy Enoch this morning. Or is it regular?
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  No, no, no, no. You have, you have blessed to be
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  here, Enoch. And yeah, anyway, I've been.
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  I've been, as you know I finished the whole chess board
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  video. So I'm.
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  I'm feeling good. Yeah, I accomplished it.
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  So. It's really well done.
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  Like mind boggling how amazing that whole series is.
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  Thanks man. Thank you.
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  It's helpful. There's This is why we're joined
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  together in the humility of what each one of the ministries God
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  has given us and why you guys agreed to come here as I believe
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  the tugging was on your heart. To be like you know what we're
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  living in strange times. We all have something to bring
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  to the table and there's people out there that only you can
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  reach. Map you have something to say.
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  That there's people only you can reach.
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  God's giving you a specific wording and a voice to be able
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  to reach that person. So to be able to join together
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  and just. I'm gonna ask some questions and
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  just watch what the Lord does with us being like here I am,
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  I'm here, Lord. I think that that's super
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  awesome, man. That's that's like the coolest
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  thing. So I'm gonna.
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  I love it how we're just so normally we're quieter than
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  normal. We're all like, what do we do
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  with ourselves? I just don't.
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  Want to sneak over everyone else you know?
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  Yeah, I know. It's so hard to talk with a
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  group of people. I feel, I feel like this is this
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  is big. Like, I feel like a holiness to
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  us being here right now. Like, seriously, I really do
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  feel we were born for such a time as this.
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  And each one of us knows what we're up against.
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  And we're saying, God, here I am, You've taken me on this
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  journey, you've equipped me with this information and now we need
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  to take heed and not be deceived.
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  And I feel like this is, this is important.
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  I mean, I want to laugh like I feel like I want to.
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  Scream, praise God and laugh all at the same time.
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  It's that feeling of like, man, this is important.
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  Like it's just, I'm stoked, I'm stoked to be here.
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  But you guys, I'm just going to Spitfire questions and anybody
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  just pick them up. There's no order or no craziness
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  to this. But these are things that I find
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  relevant with my personal circles, people that I speak
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  with face to face, skin to skin. There's questions that come from
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  listeners all around the world at this point, and these are
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  things that we can touch up on. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna spit the
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  first one out here. What is really going on with
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  this alien deception? Anybody grab that?
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  Nate, I'd like to hear how you open that up, man.
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  That's that's your Forte. You know, there's there's quite
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  a few different theories. One of them that I heard
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  somebody sharing this past this past Thursday night was, you
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  know, maybe it could lead to a. A false resurrection or I I
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  personally, in terms of eschatology, I'm a post
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  tribulation rapture believer. I'm open to to everything else.
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  I I just trust you know God's going to leave where he's going
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  to leave. But if there is a Pretrib
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  Rapture or a Midtrib Rapture, there might be some sort of
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  false project Blue Beam type abduction that happens with.
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  A mass group of people, and it's a counterfeit to a real rapture
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  that God might have in plan. It also wouldn't surprise me if
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  in the next few months we start to hear theories about, you
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  know, maybe we came from alien DNA, maybe it was on some sort
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  of asteroid or meteorite that landed here on Earth and caused
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  evolution. Maybe there are inceptors or are
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  creators. I mean, we've heard that theory
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  for years. We know that Hollywood has a lot
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  of shadow writers involved, and we've seen those theories in
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  movies like the Alien movies or in Prometheus, etcetera.
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  I hear people like Neil deGrasse Tyson who talks about, you know,
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  the fact that we have hydrogen and nitrogen inside of us that
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  were made of quote, UN quote star stuff, right, that were
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  made of things from. The universe.
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  So it's definitely not just talk behind the scenes anymore in
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  terms of alien inception and alien biology, but it's starting
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  to really come forward in in mainstream media as well.
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  Yeah, I I agree with that and and I I I say this all the time
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  and that's probably like the thing that people might say like
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  Chuck is the same, the same stuff over and over.
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  But for your group, I just, I'm a firm believer that.
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  He you know Nate said mainstream media that movies entertainment
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  has been like the biggest way to preach this gospel, this false
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  gospel to people and in incept you know the brains of of many
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  and make it part of the culture. And you know, we have all these
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  things like influencers online like Billy Carson and things
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  like that that are. Coming out and and you want to
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  pay attention to them, him and like, what's his name, what's
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  not the guy's name. He's been around for longer.
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  He talks about reptilians all the time and the matrix and all
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  that. See the one that's been on Rogan
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  recently? What was it?
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  Who was that? Do you know what?
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  I can't. Remember the chill?
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  Oh, no, no, no. It's a he's a conspiracy guy,
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  but he's like older white gentleman, well spoken, kind of
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  British. I think he sounds British at
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  least. But, you know, they've been
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  talking about these weird stuff for a long time and it's just
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  kind of like influencing so many people because they have red
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  pill information, quote UN quote, you know, they have
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  information that yeah, the government's doing these things
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  and and yeah, they're they're easy to to fall into the trap
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  because they say a lot of truths.
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  But then in the mixed of that they take you away from Christ.
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  You know, they also say that Christianity is part of the
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  problem that that that was made by.
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  These big bodies of control and things like that.
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  And so it's something to be careful because they do offer
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  some good answers where maybe the church isn't answering
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  questions. And so people tend to flock to
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  those kind of guys that have interesting things to say, but
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  at the same time they're leading them away from Jesus.
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  So I I believe this is one of the most important things that
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  we're trying to do is trying to give a biblical perspective to.
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  Something that seems completely not biblical in most people's
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  eyes. And just really, really, really
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  quick. But even outside of, even
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  outside of the Bible, even outside of religion and
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  spirituality, you have the CI A's Project Mockingbird program
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  that started in the 1919, late 1940s, and it's continued where?
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  They had shadow writers in news media and in Hollywood to try
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  and influence people. So again, this isn't a
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  conspiracy. This is something that's been
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  historical. Yeah, that's a good point.
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  Yeah. Cuz you know, up until a certain
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  time you up until recently that this information is more readily
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  available for people to look up. It seemed like, you know, it's a
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  conspiracy for sure, but I mean, there's so much disclosure
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  about. Things that the government did
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  that at this point, if you don't believe any conspiracy theory,
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  it's kind of like where where have you been, bro?
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  Bearing your head, yeah. Yeah.
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  I I think this a lot of people, I think, who haven't been paying
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  attention think this is a new thing.
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  This is something that's been going on for a really long time.
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  One of the first books that I read when I was sort of opening
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  up to conspiracy stuff, whatever was crash goes the Chariots.
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  Which is a response to Chariots of the gods.
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  So this is sort of a, it was a light debunking.
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  I'd say light debunking. But they're talking about this
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  back then. This.
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  This is not a new thing. This is an old thing that that's
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  discussed. But you had to go and find it,
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  right? And I got this other one, Search
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  of the ancient Gods by Doneken. I mean these things have been
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  around 60s and 70s is when these were popping up.
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  This is when they're popular. So, so to say it's new, I don't
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  think it's new. I think there's a new angle and
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  I think you have a struggle between groups that are trying
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  to control the course of a narrative, which is why, OK, so
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  people say disclosure. That is I think a terrible
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  title. And I think it's it's it's a
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  terrible sort of just grab bag of everything because I think
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  there's a misnomer that the government has one voice.
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  That there's one disclosure that would come from the government
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  and the government's multidivided, faceted groups
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  that are fighting against each other's multiple intelligence
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  agencies who have agendas, who want to push one more than the
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  other. And if one discloses too much,
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  the others have to respond because they'll lose control of
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  whatever. So I mean you've got so many
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  other things going on, but what I can see this disclosure is
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  that's happening now. You know, put in quotes.
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  Lower case D in quotes. Disclosure is purely focused on
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  physical, purely focused on physical, physical material.
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  And I think that's on purpose. It probably goes to what Nathan
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  was talking about the the angle that they want to release some
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  of the information because you have to do it step by step.
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  This is a story and you can't lose everybody Chapter one.
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  You got to make sure everybody's there.
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  So you can go to chapter 2 and move on to chapter 3, because if
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  you don't do that. You put it back into a TV
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  episodic sort of thing. You lose people after the second
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  episode, they're gonna cancel the series.
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  So you can't do that. And this is what it is.
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  It's released this way on purpose, and I think it's
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  material focus. And the material focus will move
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  back in time. This is just my thought because
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  that will give so much fuel. To people like the the Carson's
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  and and others to to be able to reposition the past.
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  But anything that is spiritual multidimensional is going to be
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  looking forward because you can't have people asking those
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  questions of the past because you legitimize people who've
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  worked in the past. You can only ask those questions
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  in the future so they can control that nerve.
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  So I think it's it's a. It's a 2 directional.
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  Kind of thing. Material moving past, spiritual
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  moving forward. And I think that's on purpose
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  because I was ranting about this to to Chuck.
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  There have been people in this space, Christians talking about
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  this in the space since the 60s, since the 50s, didn't have the
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  Internet back then. Hard to pull all those things
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  back together, but I know my grandfather was talking about
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  not the alien stuff specifically, but talking about
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  governmental control of information.
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  It is back in the 70s and 80s where he was really about that.
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  So anyway, I think that's the point of a lot of the disclosure
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  today. And it goes back to Chuck's
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  thing too. Seeds planted in the past, they
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  had Battlestar Galactica, the old one they had and then that
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  moved into the the reboot and that moved into Stargate and
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  they moved into other things that all the seeds are there for
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  them to retell the story. So anyway with your with your
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  back to the past and and the the transfer of knowledge there,
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  it's we know now back in World War 2 for example with the with
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  the movies that that we had indoctrination.
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  Like hard indoctrination back then and with the and with the
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  invention invention of TV and putting that in almost all the
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  houses that just ramped everything up right before it
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  was radio right. And then where they had all
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  those really cool hi voices and and then over to the TV and
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  that's and that's that just that has ramped everything up to has
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  has been the worst invention for man for yeah anyway because I'm
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  addicted. I'm addicted to it.
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  I admit it. I'll still watch those Marvel
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  movies. I know they're, I know they're
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  setting up the the great deception.
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  But yeah, anyway. Yeah, just from here and all you
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  guys talk it like what you were saying, Mav.
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  And you two kind of Nate is like they're releasing it in stages,
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  right. And so we go back to the 1950s
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  and we can see like the television and the radio.
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  And then when we Fast forward to my generation, the millennial
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  generation, now we got supercomputers in our pockets.
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  And the information is now easily and readily available.
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  And now we see like what Generation X&Z, and they're just
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  nonstop tik toking and just information overload.
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  We're living in a day and age with a million messages and
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  signals. And as men of Christ, it's like,
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  yeah, we have to take heed that we're not being deceived.
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  Right. And we need to be Bereans, but
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  but have an answer in season and not a season.
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  We have to be with readiness of mind like the Bereans.
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  We also have to know what the scripture says.
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  And I know we got two pastors here on the line, which is
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  amazing. And I'm just going to dive right
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  into the next question. I've heard it talked about.
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  I mean, I hear different perspectives like the alien meat
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  suit, right, versus there an interdimensional creature that
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  physically manifests almost as if it was a hologram.
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  Just I want to throw this question out there.
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  Are aliens and demons the same thing?
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  And what's up with the meat suit theory?
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  Nate, what do you think, man? I mean, if people don't know why
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  I keep saying Nate, I mean, he was an investigator from MUFON.
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  You know, he has his own show, Midnight Mysteries, and I highly
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  recommend you go check that out. I mean, it's very informative.
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  I talk about the stuff. Like, tongue in cheek.
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  But then he goes, yeah, but that was actually a thing because
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  there's this, like we said earlier, Project Mockingbird and
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  all that stuff. So he has a lot more
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  information. I believe it's very informative.
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  I love how he puts those footnotes there for people to
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  follow if they want to go down those rabbit trails and stuff
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  like that. So I highly recommend it.
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  So anyways, sorry Nate, go ahead.
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  No. Again Chuck I relate to you
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  where sometimes my my information is repetitive
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  because it's just the the base standard of of answer I go to
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  for a lot of these things because it's it's created out of
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  years of belief and research and evidence for me.
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  And you know I I'm completely okay with opposing opinions and
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  I'm I want to be challenged for me, I I personally think that
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  they're. You know, there's definitely
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  demons that are pretending to be aliens, but at the same time, do
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  I believe that we are the only created being in all of the
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  universe? Like could there be space whales
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  on another planet swimming around in some sort of
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  atmospheric ocean? Could there be lesser created
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  beings that aren't made in the image of God amago day like like
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  we are? But are still intelligent.
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  I I don't know. I look at some of the angels in
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  the Bible and how some of them appear as as as human and how
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  Hebrews talks about how we need to be careful how we treat
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  strangers because we could be entertaining an Angel unaware.
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  But then other angels are like a weird mix of machine parts and
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  eyes and sounds and so. I don't believe that heaven is
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  somewhere off in the clouds. I believe it's dimensions away
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  from us. And so if we're talking about
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  interdimensional beings, you know, aliens are
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  interdimensional beings. But could there be other things
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  that are also interdimensional beings?
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  I don't know. Could we be misidentifying or
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  could some of these definitions be overlapping?
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  I definitely think so. And in terms of the the meat
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  suit? That really goes back to
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  different possession theories, right where demons need to
• 22:19
  inhabit some sort of body to be able to to function in this
• 22:24
  earthly realm. But again, that separates demons
• 22:27
  from from fallen angels and from Elohim, which could be lesser
• 22:32
  gods as well. So this is a whole can of worms
• 22:35
  that we can dive deep down into. Yeah, and well, that's important
• 22:40
  that you bring it up, Nate, just because this conversation is not
• 22:45
  being had at all, at least amongst the churches that I
• 22:48
  visit. It's either aliens or demons.
• 22:52
  Nothing else to see here, folks. Move along, pray against that.
• 22:56
  And that's about it. And that kind of answer doesn't
• 23:00
  satiate a lot of the people's questions.
• 23:03
  So I I've seen it personally start to kind of fester in a lot
• 23:09
  of the young people's hearts and and and and it turns into
• 23:13
  doubts. It turns into fears and turns
• 23:15
  into all these different concerns and and to more
• 23:19
  questions obviously. So then they start to think,
• 23:21
  well the Bible doesn't have answers for this.
• 23:23
  This is greater. This is a greater subject than
• 23:27
  the Bible. This is a greater subject that
• 23:28
  doesn't fit there. So because of that, there might,
• 23:33
  it might and might not be a real thing for me to believe in, in
• 23:36
  the Bible, you know. And so because now something
• 23:40
  else seems bigger than the actual thing that we go to,
• 23:44
  which is our, you know, answer to all things in a sense.
• 23:47
  But also when you grow as a Christian and you understand
• 23:50
  that they're part of being a a believer is not having all of
• 23:53
  your questions answered, which is OK, you know.
• 23:57
  And so that's totally not a problem with me.
• 23:59
  Like if I don't have an answer, so I respect, like, I actually
• 24:01
  don't know. We'll see, You know, we'll see
• 24:03
  what happens because ultimately we take everything upon faith
• 24:06
  and that is just the foundation of what it is to believe in
• 24:11
  anything, right. But when you're asking about
• 24:13
  aliens, I mean, yes, there's so many theories out there.
• 24:16
  I've heard a lot of the stuff, you know, coming from La
• 24:19
  Marzouli saying that, you know, that's there's programs of
• 24:23
  possibly abductions and that's why they abduct people to take
• 24:26
  from their genetic structure to create suits that these beings
• 24:30
  can inhabit because they need to live in a in a sort of
• 24:33
  biological suit of some sort of. Mutilation stuff, right?
• 24:36
  The cattle mutilation and all of that.
• 24:39
  And so if people know, I mean it is it is a reference to the the
• 24:45
  Book of Enoch, the first book of Enoch as as far as these spirits
• 24:51
  wandering really seeking whom they can possess.
• 24:55
  And we see that in a New Testament as well.
• 24:56
  Like they're they're they're wandering in these dry places
• 24:59
  and they're just seeking to whom to inhabit and things like that.
• 25:03
  And it is interesting to me, if you read books like Communion
• 25:06
  and things like that, that a lot of abductions and a lot of these
• 25:09
  things can stop when you pray out to the name of Jesus.
• 25:15
  And that that was like a big tell all for me because why
• 25:20
  would an intergalactic being of some sort or alien care or get
• 25:25
  mad if you're using the name of Jesus and disappear?
• 25:28
  Like you know what I'm saying? It's just it doesn't, it didn't
• 25:31
  make any sense to me where I didn't.
• 25:33
  I felt like that sort of information was being suppressed
• 25:35
  because I believe even in Nathan's research there was a
• 25:40
  lot of that where they were just like, wait a minute, these these
• 25:45
  entities, these beings are responding to the name of Jesus.
• 25:48
  And I did find it interesting that they're always trying to
• 25:51
  take away his throne. Yeah, I know he is a teacher or
• 25:56
  he's a great ascended master, but these aliens are always
• 26:00
  saying, right, But he's not God. He's not, you know, they they
• 26:04
  always have to do that. And I think that's very weird
• 26:08
  too because they elevate everyone else, including you,
• 26:12
  the human being. You can be like a God, which
• 26:15
  that should be familiar language to people.
• 26:17
  That's that's one of the biggest lies ever told in the Bible,
• 26:22
  right in the beginning of in Genesis.
• 26:25
  So if we have all of these common threads, that's where I
• 26:28
  guess you've I start to become like the the guy with the with
• 26:31
  the red string, right. You know, attaching all of these
• 26:34
  things together into some some larger grander conspiracy it
• 26:39
  starts to really point towards if they're maybe not demons is
• 26:42
  the best word for aliens, but definitely creatures or entities
• 26:47
  there that are in amenity with Jesus Christ and that is that is
• 26:53
  something to to really pay attention to.
• 26:57
  Demonic is fine. Not just if you don't want to
• 26:58
  say demon, but it's it's demonic.
• 27:00
  It's it's all demonic. Falling right?
• 27:04
  I also find it interesting a lot of times when someone laughs,
• 27:07
  what do we think about this thing?
• 27:09
  I'll search a few things to see What do they want us to think
• 27:12
  about a thing? If you search Meat Suit, first
• 27:15
  of all I think there is a band called Meat Suit because that is
• 27:20
  the first thing comes to my mind is why isn't there a band called
• 27:23
  Meat Suit? But I think there is.
• 27:25
  I haven't been knelm down. I wanna, I wanna know the lyrics
• 27:28
  of some of the songs. Yeah, yeah, exactly the so that
• 27:34
  mean. That's one of the things that I
• 27:35
  first thought, but if you search for meat suit, one of the things
• 27:39
  that comes up is Lady Gaga's dress that she wore in 2010, I
• 27:45
  think the MTV Music Awards. So there are they planting some
• 27:50
  of these things in order to obfuscate finding the
• 27:54
  information? Cuz like what Nathan was saying?
• 27:56
  The best way, So much information, too much
• 27:59
  information, best way to hide good information is amongst poor
• 28:03
  information and that's what we have.
• 28:04
  So truth is difficult to find just because we have so much
• 28:08
  information. But as far as the meat suit kind
• 28:12
  of thing, I've heard all the theories and echo a lot of what
• 28:19
  I've heard said already. But.
• 28:21
  I think a lot of this gets muddied a little bit as far as
• 28:24
  our understanding of of demons and possession when we get to
• 28:29
  the account of Jesus and the demoniac where he exercised the
• 28:35
  legion of exercise legion into the pigs and so then the then
• 28:40
  the pigs run off a Cliff. So that you got a question one
• 28:45
  is that normal for demons to possess animals?
• 28:48
  Because that kind of widens the scope quite a bit.
• 28:53
  Secondarily, if if they were in the pigs, why did they run off
• 28:56
  the Cliff? Is there a suicidal tendency?
• 28:58
  Was that part? I don't understand that part.
• 29:01
  And 3rd, is there a band called Suicide Pig?
• 29:05
  Because that's another good band name that probably won there is
• 29:09
  Suicidal Tendencies, I'll tell you that.
• 29:11
  Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But those are the sort of things
• 29:14
  where you there is no explanation that we get directly
• 29:16
  in Scripture and sometimes. I think this is part of things
• 29:20
  because I've counseled people who've been into some of these
• 29:24
  things following, going down some of these paths and start to
• 29:29
  they don't find satisfying answers.
• 29:31
  So they want to go to mediums and other things that sometimes
• 29:33
  we don't get answers because we shouldn't have answers to that
• 29:37
  yet. It's not, it's not important for
• 29:41
  us to understand all those things.
• 29:42
  And so for people who are looking for all of the things
• 29:45
  lined up. I want all the boxes filled out.
• 29:48
  I want all the things figured out.
• 29:50
  That is also a way for you to get pulled down the wrong path
• 29:55
  because you are seeking answers to things that you don't, first
• 29:58
  of all, don't really need. You don't really need to know
• 30:01
  how all of the things work. We don't need to know all the
• 30:04
  mechanics behind a thing. And I think we'd probably talk
• 30:06
  about it'd be nice to know some of these things, but as far as
• 30:10
  counseling someone, putting them on the right path, directing
• 30:13
  them to Jesus. We don't need all that
• 30:16
  information. Like we don't have to have all
• 30:18
  those boxes ticked. We can get off that other path
• 30:21
  onto the narrow road and we can talk about it.
• 30:24
  And, you know, maybe one day, in the context of the relationship
• 30:31
  with the Lord will be informed. But some of those things aren't
• 30:33
  necessary. And so if we set up a scenario
• 30:35
  where you have to have everything figured out before
• 30:38
  you start walking, we might be setting up criteria that can't
• 30:44
  be. Accounted for that they can't be
• 30:46
  answered and sending people up for failure and so they'll
• 30:49
  follow whatever other path says that they do have all those
• 30:52
  things figured out. They'll follow and you gotta be
• 30:55
  careful. Yeah, yeah, my channel, my
• 30:58
  channel is designed for people who at least are planning on
• 31:02
  searching. They're in the secular world and
• 31:05
  but they're looking so they're somewhat open minded.
• 31:12
  And when they're there, that's where you just launch them into
• 31:15
  my channel and things will start to click for them.
• 31:20
  But even with that information that I've put together, which
• 31:25
  should really open people's minds to the weirdness of this
• 31:28
  world, it still isn't enough. It's crazy.
• 31:33
  I've spent. So much time on people with
• 31:37
  people and and they just want to believe in their Buddha or they
• 31:40
  just want to believe in their, their, their other religion.
• 31:43
  And yeah, it's it's hard, man. It is.
• 31:47
  And you know what's brought me so much peace?
• 31:49
  Because I wasn't a very peaceful man when I started to learn all
• 31:54
  of these things. It was very much like Neo taking
• 31:57
  the red pill and he was like losing his mind, you know, I
• 32:01
  really felt like everyone had to know everything.
• 32:04
  I was learning, right? So I was just like any
• 32:08
  opportunity I can get. I had that, you know, I fit that
• 32:11
  meme, like where every conversation ended up in in like
• 32:14
  him, you know, and there's a reptilians probably possessing
• 32:18
  him right now. He doesn't look real over there,
• 32:19
  you know, and look at his. Eyes.
• 32:21
  Look at his eyes. And so it was definitely not a
• 32:26
  peaceful couple of years and always just kind of pushing this
• 32:32
  kind of information upon them, even though it was real or true.
• 32:35
  And and especially now more than ever, there's kind of, there's
• 32:38
  been, I'm like a whole 2 years of vindication for me where
• 32:41
  everything's just been like happening exactly how I've said
• 32:44
  in the last seven years on the show.
• 32:46
  And and I don't say it, I mean, glory to God, I'm not saying
• 32:49
  like, oh, I'm some sort of prophet, but I'm just looking at
• 32:51
  these things happening. They're just happening in these
• 32:54
  stages like we were talking about earlier.
• 32:56
  And but I'm at, I'm at a different place where I'm just a
• 32:59
  lot more at peace just because I know that God is in control
• 33:04
  instead of trying to. Like I let people come to the
• 33:08
  information versus me trying to push it down their throat, you
• 33:11
  know, which is something that I did and then made me very
• 33:15
  anxious as a person. So if you're a researcher,
• 33:17
  you're listening to these kinds of shows and maybe you're there
• 33:21
  right now, I just encourage you if you might not have a lot of
• 33:23
  peace sometimes, you know, really pray that you get
• 33:28
  guidance as to how to talk about this information.
• 33:30
  I kid you not when I prayed that I'd never talk about it anymore
• 33:36
  on my own, and people always ask the question, it always comes up
• 33:39
  and I have an opportunity to share, even with me, not even
• 33:42
  trying to share the information. So I feel like that's a better
• 33:46
  way sometimes, and I could be wrong.
• 33:48
  Maybe you won't. You you can be on a soapbox
• 33:50
  screaming it out in the streets. It's up to you.
• 33:52
  Do whatever you want, you know? But when I've had those
• 33:55
  conversations, they're more lucrative because people ask the
• 33:59
  question. So they want to know the answer
• 34:01
  and they're a little bit more open to these conversations.
• 34:05
  And this conversations of about aliens and other religions is
• 34:09
  happening so much now that I think you'll have a lot of great
• 34:13
  opportunities, whether it's on it in a family event, at work,
• 34:16
  wherever you are, but you got to know a lot of the information
• 34:19
  first. So I I would encourage people to
• 34:22
  be like Paul and you know sit down, reach your Bible, learn
• 34:27
  all this other information first, be a Berean, come back
• 34:31
  and and and start putting some dots together.
• 34:33
  Because when you come out hot with like some random thing like
• 34:36
  I remember the first thing that I thought was not theologically
• 34:40
  correct and I needed to tell everyone and I it wasn't well
• 34:42
  received, especially amongst my church was the pre trade
• 34:45
  Rapture. I didn't think it was real right
• 34:47
  And I still don't. I don't think pre trade Rapture
• 34:49
  is a thing. So I just immediately started
• 34:53
  telling the entire congregation that was a mistake, You know, I
• 34:55
  was like, you know, and so and they were like heretic, you
• 34:58
  know, like this is, it was an outrageous thing to say, some
• 35:02
  random kid at the time. I was a kid.
• 35:03
  I was like, I don't know, 1819. And I was like, no, man, it's
• 35:08
  not in there, dude. It's not in there, man.
• 35:11
  And so I did that for a while and I said, you know, it brings
• 35:14
  you so much anxiety because people don't receive it well,
• 35:17
  right. And so then later in
• 35:19
  conversation, things like that, it would come up.
• 35:21
  And so I'm just saying, you know, there's definitely better
• 35:24
  ways to communicate these very heavy subjects.
• 35:29
  And I don't know, I think in God's time and he will always
• 35:33
  provide some sort of door or window or whatever to have these
• 35:37
  conversations. But I just encourage people to
• 35:40
  take it easy. God's still in control.
• 35:43
  And you know, we know that the end of the book, right?
• 35:45
  The Book of Revelation we, you know for a time I was telling
• 35:49
  this to Rod that being a truther and and if you're a Christian
• 35:58
  and you're fighting against the New World Order in a sense to
• 36:01
  not make it happen. It's like you're fighting
• 36:04
  against biblical prophecy because prophecy says New World
• 36:08
  Order will be successful for a time you know.
• 36:12
  So you're not there to fight the machine per se as far as it not
• 36:16
  coming into into fruition. It's more like you're there to
• 36:19
  fight the culture in between. You're there to expand the
• 36:22
  Kingdom of God despite the expansion of this other Kingdom,
• 36:25
  this earthly Kingdom. So you're kind of side by side,
• 36:28
  right? And so right.
• 36:31
  And so when you do that and if you keep your your focus, you
• 36:34
  know you're at peace just because even if this Kingdom,
• 36:36
  this earthly Kingdom, this evil Kingdom is growing, the
• 36:40
  spiritual Kingdom of God is continuing to grow.
• 36:43
  And so that's all you, that's all you need to do is focus on
• 36:46
  that and along the way have the answers as to what is happening
• 36:50
  right now. Yes, this is happening, but it's
• 36:53
  only for a time. And then God will take control.
• 36:56
  So it's important to know these things in my opinion, but I
• 36:59
  don't know where you guys stand on that.
• 37:01
  Well, well firstly I had so many things that I want to discuss in
• 37:06
  that whole 5 minute talk that you had and.
• 37:10
  And each time I'd go to try to talk and you just kept going.
• 37:13
  So I couldn't. And then so I've lost almost
• 37:15
  everything that I wanted to talk about.
• 37:18
  I've got an ongoing list of notes from.
• 37:23
  I wasn't aware of this. I've only been on your show a
• 37:26
  couple times, so I now know that I should probably get a list.
• 37:29
  Oh yes, and we should talk about that now.
• 37:31
  When you say God's in control, I have a different.
• 37:36
  Idea about that God is sovereign but not in control, right?
• 37:40
  We have free will in this domain and it isn't until we lose the
• 37:44
  domain. So, like the new world order is
• 37:47
  the weed out of, like the weak Christians, for example, when
• 37:52
  they try to take your guns away, how many Christians are gonna
• 37:56
  freak out? Like you can't take my guns,
• 37:58
  right, Right. And then they'll start to
• 38:00
  attack. Boom, boom, boom back.
• 38:01
  And well, that's just the death sentence, right?
• 38:03
  You've given. You've given the enemy
• 38:06
  permission for legal right in both realms to shoot back
• 38:11
  because you are. You are shooting them because
• 38:13
  they can't take your guns. Well, you're living in a
• 38:15
  jurisdiction that has just taken the Second Amendment and ripped
• 38:19
  it up because that's what's coming next, right?
• 38:21
  That's coming. You can't deny it.
• 38:23
  And it is. And everyone's pride on the
• 38:26
  United States and the Second Amendment is designed.
• 38:30
  For you to covet those guns for your own protection instead of
• 38:36
  going to God for protection and not being peaceful and and just
• 38:42
  you know, if they if they're coming for your guns, they know
• 38:46
  they're there. Don't hold on to them.
• 38:49
  Give them up, for example. Can I give a slightly different
• 38:53
  perspective on that, you know? Sure.
• 38:55
  Let me can I finish? Yes.
• 38:58
  Okay. Because I I should get at least
• 39:00
  5 minutes to here, all right. Now now the so when when God's
• 39:06
  with with God not being like God is is sovereign.
• 39:10
  He can take control. But no we've been given
• 39:13
  dominion. God is just so when we give up
• 39:15
  our dominion and the and the Holy Spirit or the OR the great
• 39:19
  restrainer I believe is the Holy Spirit is is then is then
• 39:25
  removed on this realm. Right.
• 39:27
  And then we are we're basically back to the the the Old
• 39:31
  Testament style of grace is gone anyway.
• 39:37
  That's that's when things start to change.
• 39:40
  And then when we when we cry out to God, or when when his his
• 39:44
  people cry out to God, then God will come and save.
• 39:46
  Them around Jerusalem and all that.
• 39:47
  Sort of stuff, but anyway, you. Talk about that.
• 39:50
  All of it's designed to get us to cry out to God.
• 39:53
  Yeah, yeah, that's that's the whole.
• 39:55
  That's an important perspective, you know, I think it all meshes
• 39:57
  and melts together in a really unique way.
• 39:59
  But you know, God says he has given his only begotten son that
• 40:06
  nobody would perish who believes.
• 40:07
  So like there's this testing and measuring and and 100 different
• 40:11
  rabbit trails of things that are coming against each and every
• 40:15
  individual and as a whole, right from the micro to the macro of
• 40:19
  our existent here. That God is literally contending
• 40:22
  for us, but free will that that's that's a pretty good
• 40:25
  perspective. I think it fits in what you're
• 40:29
  saying. You knock with just the flow of
• 40:31
  it because God is sovereign and just and that's why mandatory
• 40:37
  judgment and wrath is coming because people are not always
• 40:41
  going to choose God. So the weed out thing is
• 40:43
  interesting too, because I've been seeing a bit of that where
• 40:47
  it's like, you know, the testing of, well, everything that's
• 40:51
  going on with Trump right now and the the fires in Hawaii,
• 40:54
  right. And then the the videos
• 40:56
  everyone's sending me on all everything blue.
• 40:58
  And the fire is not catching on fire.
• 41:00
  We must paint everything blue. Oh, it was predicted in The
• 41:02
  Simpsons, right. You have all this information
• 41:04
  and stuff going on and it's like leading up to this anger and
• 41:07
  disconnect with all these messages and signals that are
• 41:09
  keeping people. No, I'm not going to lose my gun
• 41:12
  because the system that's coming against me, I must fight back,
• 41:17
  right. And it's like they, in a way, I
• 41:19
  do see them using that. So that's an important point,
• 41:23
  Stirring us up in the flesh. Puffing us up in the flesh.
• 41:27
  No, The amendments say this knowledge puffeth up, right.
• 41:30
  Because because the anointing breaks the yoke, The anointing
• 41:35
  breaks the yoke. So I just wanted to throw that.
• 41:36
  Sorry, mav, I know you had something to say.
• 41:39
  That was that moved me a little bit because I felt like as deep.
• 41:44
  Yeah, I had. I had just a couple thing.
• 41:45
  I think the first first thing would be when when people say,
• 41:48
  well, God is in control, but then they have a hard time
• 41:51
  saying that when they look at maybe the Book of Revelation say
• 41:57
  well, but during that time it's different.
• 42:00
  No, I think the problem is, is people can't fathom the idea
• 42:03
  that God can be in control and evil things still take place,
• 42:07
  even though that's the scenario of the entire Bible is.
• 42:12
  We we can say God is in control in this time, but is everything
• 42:16
  great? No, it's not.
• 42:18
  And I think that is that is the paradigm that needs to break
• 42:21
  because God still can be in control and allow these other
• 42:24
  things to take place. You read through the prophets
• 42:26
  and most of the messages you need to turn back to me and if
• 42:30
  not I have this empire over here that I'm going to unleash.
• 42:33
  And so this scenario where God's in control so it has to be good
• 42:38
  is the wrong one. And I think that's what breaks
• 42:40
  so many people's theology is they haven't thought through
• 42:43
  that. They haven't thought through the
• 42:44
  fact that bad things can still be happening, God can still be
• 42:47
  in control because of how this world is set up right now.
• 42:51
  That's from the beginning, right since the fall.
• 42:55
  So I think that's the first one that you got to deal with that.
• 42:58
  But with the Second Amendment thing, I just wanted to to touch
• 43:01
  on that because I actually don't think they're going to do
• 43:04
  anything with the Second Amendment because they don't
• 43:05
  have to. It's so interwoven in the
• 43:09
  constitution, they actually can't take it away.
• 43:12
  So many other things would have to happen for them to do that.
• 43:15
  It would never happen. But what they will do is it's
• 43:17
  the ammo. That's all they'll need to do.
• 43:20
  You almost have it. You almost have more of a
• 43:22
  desperation when the ammo is limited and you have people with
• 43:25
  guns because then they're desperate, right?
• 43:28
  They look outside. So I, I I want to like, maybe
• 43:32
  change a little bit. Like you know, I totally agree
• 43:34
  that it's a setup. But it's even more of a setup if
• 43:36
  you have a limited amount of ammo, because then everything is
• 43:39
  the Alamo, right? Everything is.
• 43:43
  It's the end. Why not both though?
• 43:46
  Why not both? Because if you limit the ammo
• 43:49
  and then in front of the camera rip up the Second Amendment in
• 43:52
  front for everyone to see what's gonna create more chaos and
• 43:55
  panic. Okay.
• 43:58
  I I think that. That's what it's about.
• 43:59
  It's it's about keeping chaos and panic.
• 44:01
  Right. I'm just, I'm just saying from a
• 44:03
  legal standpoint, they wouldn't be able to get rid of the Second
• 44:05
  Amendment like there's too many states where the contingent on
• 44:09
  them joining the United States was maintaining a Second
• 44:12
  Amendment. Like a few of these different
• 44:13
  things, you'd have secession. You'd have a bigger, bigger
• 44:16
  problems doing that. The easier path is to actually
• 44:19
  outlaw the the AR15, which uses standardized ammo.
• 44:26
  And then if you do that, you sour the milk, no one's no one's
• 44:28
  gonna gonna make that ammo and then the only people who have
• 44:31
  ammo is law enforcement that that's a far easier way to do it
• 44:35
  and I think that's probably the route to go.
• 44:37
  Also they're adding the the mental health like if they
• 44:40
  consider you all of that stuff and they can say you being a
• 44:43
  Christian is mental health issue now, which is a thing that is
• 44:47
  happening in different places where they're you know using
• 44:51
  that as ammos to. To work against you, so it'll
• 44:55
  limit your ability to own a gun and things like that.
• 44:57
  So there's ways that they can definitely do it for sure.
• 45:00
  But yeah, yeah, but I agree with you Enoch, that's what they
• 45:03
  would like to do. I think they're lazy and it
• 45:05
  would take too long. And so it's actually moves it
• 45:08
  faster if they keep the Second Amendment in place and limit the
• 45:10
  ammo. I think your scenario you're
• 45:12
  talking about moves faster, but all of it to say is you can't
• 45:17
  trust in those things. Yeah.
• 45:20
  If if they roll through and they they wanna take them away,
• 45:23
  that's fine because they're looking for the same outcome.
• 45:27
  Exactly. You know, however they do it,
• 45:29
  they're looking for that same outcome and they may move things
• 45:31
  around and add multiple things together.
• 45:34
  Now I just wanna, I just wanna throw this out there because it
• 45:37
  it's just I couldn't help it when I when I brought up this
• 45:41
  video floating around with everything that burned up in
• 45:44
  Hawaii. But there's all these like blue
• 45:46
  umbrellas, like blue cars. There's just everything left.
• 45:49
  Like, where does that fall in? Nate, did did you ever get any
• 45:53
  reports through the years that the color blue had a
• 45:57
  significance? Was it ever talked about through
• 46:00
  either frequency or shielding or auras or just?
• 46:04
  I know it's a strange question, but I just feel like I got to
• 46:07
  sneak this one in here and then let's see what everybody's
• 46:09
  thoughts are on it. Well, we're still trying to
• 46:13
  unpack it. One of our social media people
• 46:15
  posted one of the TikTok videos with the correlation between The
• 46:19
  Simpsons and the blue material left over from the Hawaii fires.
• 46:25
  And I got into conversation with someone where another person was
• 46:29
  saying, yeah, it seems like. The Simpsons are constantly
• 46:32
  predicting this stuff and somebody else interjected and
• 46:35
  said no, they're telling us what's going to happen.
• 46:38
  They're they're letting us know ahead of time.
• 46:40
  It's not just them predicting it.
• 46:42
  And in terms of the the color blue, this is something I've
• 46:45
  just started diving into. So I'd love you guys' feedback.
• 46:48
  But in terms of alien abduction interviews I've done and
• 46:53
  investigations I've done with with MUFON, etc, there always
• 46:57
  seems to be. Blue associated, whether it's a
• 47:00
  blue light or blue or like you're talking about or some
• 47:05
  sort of blue discoloration within the craft or or or
• 47:10
  wherever the people end up. And I had jumped on to Mufon's
• 47:14
  database and just did a search string with the color blue and
• 47:18
  that started appearing over and over again and again.
• 47:21
  I don't have. A more concrete answer than
• 47:24
  that, because it's something I'm just starting to dive into now,
• 47:27
  but there does seem to be some something significant.
• 47:30
  And what I'd also love to dive into is where the color blue
• 47:35
  might show up in the Bible, because we see colors in the
• 47:37
  Bible frequently from specific instructions on how the temple's
• 47:42
  supposed to be built to sapphires and etc.
• 47:46
  So I'd love to do a deep dive into where the color blue
• 47:49
  appears biblically as well. This is my love language.
• 47:54
  Anybody else give me more. Blue Hawaii is also an Elvis
• 47:59
  Presley movie from the 60s and a drink called the Blue Hawaiian
• 48:04
  which the drink came first before the movie.
• 48:07
  So this this whole, like blue and Hawaii Association might
• 48:11
  might be a false road to run down like everyone run down that
• 48:16
  road because. The other answer is much easier,
• 48:20
  so I don't know if it. I don't know if that's the case.
• 48:22
  The other thought I had was, when you're videotaping all
• 48:25
  Gray, do you change the filters so that you can see the picture
• 48:28
  better and does that make blue pop?
• 48:30
  That's my other question. So obviously I'm highly
• 48:35
  skeptical of the blue being a major component and might be a
• 48:39
  false path to rundown, but. Well, I'm going to be correct.
• 48:45
  There is a thing with also blue light coming from your screens
• 48:48
  and phones, right? And there's this a whole idea.
• 48:50
  That's why I'd like usually and towards the night I change my
• 48:53
  phone to red filter so that I don't have all the blue coming
• 48:57
  in so I can, you know, it's supposed to help with your sleep
• 49:00
  and all that stuff. So if you're in front of screens
• 49:01
  a lot and you can't really sleep, it's probably one of the
• 49:03
  reasons you got a lot of blue light going on.
• 49:05
  And so that's why you can switch your screens to to red filter
• 49:09
  and things like that. I even have a red room, like I
• 49:13
  put a red. It just does another thing.
• 49:15
  There's red light therapy, which is the, you know, pretty much
• 49:18
  direct opposite of like blue. And it really does, at least for
• 49:23
  me, it works pretty decently. I've done it a few times where
• 49:27
  in order to defuse yourself from all the blue light, you just get
• 49:29
  in a room with a specific red light and things like that and
• 49:32
  that helps. So there is something to the
• 49:34
  color situation? I have no idea.
• 49:36
  What it could be for sure. But it is interesting that
• 49:41
  colors matter and all of this stuff and I have no idea why.
• 49:45
  But I mean if you look up why the sky is blue, they say
• 49:47
  usually you know the the way the light works with with blue and
• 49:52
  everything it's it's like a whole thing.
• 49:53
  So I don't know I feel like it's it's possible that there's a a a
• 49:58
  great, I don't know a greater thing here but I have no idea
• 50:01
  what it could be. But I know there's just
• 50:02
  significance for sure. Yeah.
• 50:04
  And if you if you search Blue Hawaii and Google all the all
• 50:08
  the the drink and the Elvis that pops up, but Blue Hawaii fires
• 50:12
  does pop up, which makes me feel like if they didn't want people
• 50:16
  to look at it, it wouldn't pop up in the suggestions, if you
• 50:20
  know what I mean. That's where I'm like I'm kind
• 50:22
  of, I'm kind of skeptical on this thing.
• 50:24
  Like that's they want people to sound crazy going into this.
• 50:28
  And see who's painting their roofs blue.
• 50:30
  I've seen that people are starting to paint things blue.
• 50:33
  And like, this is gonna protect. And the one thing you're not
• 50:36
  doing is asking the Lord to protect you.
• 50:38
  Like you'd rather make blue paint your lamb's blood pass
• 50:44
  over me, do instead of just trusting the Lord for this
• 50:48
  thing, you know? I mean, I don't know.
• 50:51
  Maybe I'm. Too harsh on it?
• 50:54
  Well, maybe it's some sort of predictor again or some sort of
• 50:57
  message being conveyed. I'm just looking over some, even
• 51:01
  some psychology notes here where it talks about the association
• 51:05
  with the color blue and the ocean and the sky and comfort.
• 51:11
  And then it's just a stark contrast in these videos of
• 51:14
  Hawaii where it's been burned to ashes and you see blue in the
• 51:17
  midst of it, so. Is there some sort of message
• 51:20
  being relayed? Maybe I'm reading way too much
• 51:22
  into it. That could be the greater
• 51:24
  possibility. But maybe there's going to be
• 51:26
  some sort of, I don't know, bubbles of comfort that they try
• 51:30
  and bring in in the middle of these fires and disasters and
• 51:35
  and and just to jump back to something, something earlier,
• 51:37
  really, really quick. But I I think of Matthew 24
• 51:41
  where it says if it weren't for the spirit, even the most elect
• 51:45
  would be deceived. So.
• 51:48
  It's going to look good on the outside.
• 51:51
  It's going to look healthy. It's going to look like a
• 51:54
  solution. But us as believers, the ones
• 51:57
  who have the spirit, are going to go, you know, that looks
• 52:00
  good. But there's something off about
• 52:02
  it. There's there's something that
• 52:04
  just just isn't vibing for me. And I think that's why we have
• 52:09
  to be careful because a lot of times, even in my conversation,
• 52:12
  probably me more than anyone else, I'm like, no, it's going
• 52:15
  to be like. An alien disclosure.
• 52:18
  It's going to be clearly like what we've been talking about
• 52:21
  for years, but I think it's going to appear very good on the
• 52:24
  outside. I, I that's an important point
• 52:28
  and I think it's happening already amongst us in my opinion
• 52:31
  because I mean you immediately saw when there was UFO
• 52:35
  disclosure quote UN quote all of us at least me and Matt were
• 52:38
  like that doesn't seem right like the way they did it like
• 52:43
  immediately like the the. The way it was set up it was
• 52:46
  just not right. Even though it's something that
• 52:48
  we wanted to hear in a sense us people in this sort of realm of
• 52:52
  research like yes I told you so but the way it was brought about
• 52:55
  it wasn't and I told you so moment it was like that's not
• 52:59
  what I no this isn't this isn't right.
• 53:01
  This doesn't seem right at all and every time they were say
• 53:05
  something that kind of validates a little bit of what we've been
• 53:08
  talking about. It's just a little off.
• 53:11
  It's different. It's like I don't I don't know
• 53:13
  about this you know and. I don't know.
• 53:16
  It's just really weird. But also, I just wanted to drop
• 53:18
  in. There wasn't Epstein Epstein's
• 53:21
  island correlated with white and blue, The whole thing, you know
• 53:24
  there's white and blue was all over the place.
• 53:26
  And Ellen DeGeneres background, it was always blue and white.
• 53:31
  He looked like Epstein's island thing.
• 53:33
  Like, I don't know, so I don't know.
• 53:34
  There's definitely something there with colors.
• 53:36
  But anyways, and I've even heard like people that deal with the
• 53:40
  SRA that colors can be a trigger word to get people into a
• 53:45
  certain mind state, right. And just one or two more things
• 53:48
  and we'll move on from blue, unless Enoch has has something
• 53:51
  he wants to talk about. But I was looking at just the
• 53:53
  spectrum of electromagnetic radiation, like the light
• 53:56
  spectrum and blue falls between the 490 and 4:30, right.
• 54:01
  And then you start to like, look at, well, OK and I and I do this
• 54:07
  in a good way, not in a bad way, but but Doctor Laura Sanger's
• 54:09
  like, name on everything she uses is 444 Hertz, right?
• 54:13
  And it's like, that's super cool.
• 54:14
  They say 440 is like that a scale that you turn music to,
• 54:18
  right? Like there's something going on.
• 54:19
  And in in a lot of ways, Chuck, I've heard you talk about this
• 54:22
  Enoch that the New Age stuff is perverting things that are
• 54:28
  important that are intended for the body of Christ.
• 54:31
  So it's really hard to figure that out and and some of the the
• 54:34
  meat of this conversation right here is for somebody out there.
• 54:37
  Other people may have skipped forward just a little bit
• 54:40
  through a couple parts here, but really the there is a calling
• 54:43
  for us to figure these things out because we're not called to
• 54:45
  be ignorant to the devil's devices.
• 54:47
  Now we don't worship the information.
• 54:49
  We don't put it in front of what the truth of the gospel is, but
• 54:52
  but it clearly is an elephant in the room with the younger
• 54:55
  generation. So thank you guys for
• 54:57
  feedbacking on that. Enoch, do you have anything to
• 54:59
  add because because I just kind of was scratching the surface on
• 55:04
  maybe the light spectrum or frequency.
• 55:06
  Do you have some gems or any thoughts well?
• 55:09
  Yeah, the only the only thought I haven't looked into into this
• 55:11
  at all. All I saw as to why is another
• 55:14
  signal as to where we're going and the to get to the disclosure
• 55:20
  event or the great deception. So when it comes to blue, all it
• 55:25
  was in my mind was frequency. There's there's some sort of.
• 55:30
  There's some sort of thing behind the frequency of blue
• 55:33
  just like red or something behind the frequency of red.
• 55:36
  For example, if red for Canada apparently has symbolism with
• 55:41
  the OR called for blood sacrifice.
• 55:43
  Cuz Canada is one of the biggest traffickers of of of bodies.
• 55:49
  They use Canada a lot to get bodies anywhere else in the
• 55:52
  world. So you think that lines up with
• 55:54
  the whole new like virus coming out of Canada.
• 55:57
  I'm hearing rumors of. Do you think that that fits in
• 55:59
  with that occultic? Just a thought.
• 56:06
  I thought the virus is coming out of the new viruses coming
• 56:08
  out of Africa. I heard recently it was floating
• 56:13
  around and it was not. Anything that I could say was
• 56:16
  there's so much out there which? Which virus?
• 56:19
  Yeah, right. Yeah.
• 56:22
  Which one? Good point.
• 56:24
  The new Corona, we'll let that my thought fall to the ground
• 56:26
  there if you guys want. The new common cold one, that's
• 56:31
  Yeah, anyway. There's a hemorrhagic fever
• 56:33
  coming from, they say from Europe, even though it's called
• 56:37
  the Crimean Congo Hemorrhagic fever, which Crimea and Congo
• 56:42
  have nothing to do with each other.
• 56:44
  But they're both in the news. I don't know, that's a very
• 56:47
  weird one. But anyway.
• 56:47
  Well, we're gearing up for masks again here in Canada, so.
• 56:51
  Yeah. That's, yeah.
• 56:53
  Restrictions, masks and shots and yeah.
• 56:56
  Nathan I don't know if you're aware but I've I've broken down
• 56:59
  how to combat cuz what's coming is going to seem real to
• 57:03
  everyone because we're all loaded up it's all inside of us.
• 57:15
  Podcast on how to battle what's, what's coming, like what
• 57:20
  basically what Morgellons is, we all have it and how to combat it
• 57:24
  and stuff like that. So I've I've broken down, I
• 57:09
  think, with with the millennial mustard.
• 57:25
  So because they're using. That thank you.
• 57:27
  Yeah, they're using more. They're using more Gellons to
• 57:31
  basically implement most of most of what's what we're coming.
• 57:35
  So they're going to be using frequency to give signs and
• 57:40
  symptoms. They're going to use because
• 57:41
  it's all about. It's all about.
• 57:45
  It's all about parasites and fungus that's that's what
• 57:51
  they're using to to to attack us now before what they use for the
• 57:55
  COVID to get everybody to to take the take the the harmful
• 57:59
  the little prick they poisoned our water with snake with
• 58:04
  synthetic snake venom so. So when we drink that, we feel,
• 58:08
  I'll start to feel sick and then we'd be.
• 58:11
  Down and out for 12 to 14 days, which is how long it takes for
• 58:14
  the venom to get out of your system as well.
• 58:16
  Like signs and symptoms, signs symptoms match snake venom, not
• 58:20
  the common cold. Interesting.
• 58:22
  We we noticed our water, our water has drastically changed
• 58:27
  different here in Alberta over the last six or seven months.
• 58:31
  Yeah. Where are you in Alberta?
• 58:33
  I'm in Calgary. Edmonton Hey, yeah, have you
• 58:38
  guys noticed a taste in? Difference in water.
• 58:41
  I only drink filtered water. I don't even drink water at
• 58:44
  restaurants. Yeah, we're picking up a filter
• 58:47
  because we yeah, at first the City of Edmonton tried to
• 58:50
  explain it as runoff from the North Saskatchewan River, but
• 58:54
  it's just lasted another five or six months after that.
• 58:58
  Yeah, it's really sketchy right now.
• 59:01
  I stop drinking water. I only drink raw milk now.
• 59:04
  So quick, quick question is, are they changing this the city
• 59:10
  because we're coming from all around the country right now,
• 59:12
  right? Each one of us is in a
• 59:14
  different, different place. I mean are they changing the
• 59:17
  lights in any of your towns or cities now?
• 59:20
  I've seen it here on the Turnpike, for example, when I
• 59:23
  go, you know when I went to Ohio, right?
• 59:26
  So I jumped. I went all the way across the
• 59:28
  state, but at certain places I'm noticing blue like UV lights
• 59:33
  instead of the standard white or yellow St. lights that are being
• 59:37
  implemented. Any of those changes taking
• 59:39
  place where you guys are at? Anybody notice any of that?
• 59:42
  No, not yet. Too much going on.
• 59:45
  And so Cal has too many lights. I don't know.
• 59:47
  I'm in Southern California. It's just.
• 59:50
  It's just normal lights right now and it's St. lights.
• 59:54
  Yeah, the street lights. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 59:55
  The street lights outside that I have right now is like it's the
• 59:59
  same light that's been there for 20 years.
• 1:00:01
  It's like never changed, you know, So, but I have seen like
• 1:00:06
  these streets where they're being remodeled.
• 1:00:08
  I've seen videos in other places where they're apparently
• 1:00:11
  changing St. lights of quite a bit and that's it is a little
• 1:00:15
  strange, but I don't know. It's just not hasn't happened
• 1:00:18
  around here yet. I've noticed them on, on and off
• 1:00:21
  ramps of all the turnpikes and major routes that I just
• 1:00:26
  traveled through. You know, I did 1000 mile trip
• 1:00:28
  within the last month and they just kept popping up.
• 1:00:32
  Just curious if it was happening anywhere else, even even on
• 1:00:34
  local streets, back roads. It seems like there's certain
• 1:00:37
  places which which I should put together a video I should drive
• 1:00:40
  around at that sundown and just kind of show, hey, is there
• 1:00:44
  something peculiar about this location, why they're doing that
• 1:00:47
  lighting? I could be reading too deep into
• 1:00:49
  it, but just curious if anybody else was noticing that.
• 1:00:53
  LED is being implemented all over all over the place right
• 1:00:57
  now because LED is a is a is a transmitter and receiver.
• 1:01:02
  So like if you look at your your solar panels, your solar panels
• 1:01:07
  are just are diodes as well as an LED is a diode so so when you
• 1:01:13
  put it LED everywhere it. It basically operates as a
• 1:01:20
  camera, right? That's so cuz your speakers can
• 1:01:26
  operate as a camera that a lot of people don't understand that
• 1:01:28
  cuz it's just frequency, right? So it can, it can.
• 1:01:32
  It acts like sonar. Believe it or not, it acts in
• 1:01:35
  the same purpose you can. A computer program can get the
• 1:01:40
  entire readout of your of your house.
• 1:01:44
  It knows how many people are in it.
• 1:01:46
  All that sort of stuff through your.
• 1:01:49
  Now I sound like a crazy crackpot, but just think of
• 1:01:52
  Daredevil, right? How does Daredevil see the
• 1:01:54
  entire room? Well, you saw that in eagle eye,
• 1:01:57
  Steven Spielberg's eagle eye. Even with our phones, right?
• 1:02:01
  Yeah, those of us who have Hey Siri or whatever enabled, Hey
• 1:02:06
  Google enabled. Your mic is always on listening
• 1:02:09
  for that command. It doesn't magically know when
• 1:02:11
  that command is given. The mic always has to be on for
• 1:02:14
  that command to be heard. And then you look at even
• 1:02:18
  infrared technology too with your your cameras.
• 1:02:21
  And again, there's just precise location mapping like Enoch just
• 1:02:26
  talked about. It's it's not just oh, this is
• 1:02:28
  the person's approximate area. It's like, no, this is where
• 1:02:31
  they are in their house, in their room, on their bed, or
• 1:02:34
  next to their night stand. It's.
• 1:02:36
  It's extremely precise. Nathan, I need you to come with
• 1:02:41
  me. Come aboard and help me write.
• 1:02:42
  Because then the precise, the words that you choose, your
• 1:02:48
  wording is far better than what I do with my Mickey Mouse
• 1:02:53
  vocabulary. You're lexicon.
• 1:02:55
  I am so impressed. Yeah, but you're you.
• 1:02:59
  Have to tell my You have to tell my wife that because I don't
• 1:03:01
  think I'm impressed for much with.
• 1:03:03
  Me you never. You never can.
• 1:03:07
  I you know the the light, you know, I could correct me if I'm
• 1:03:10
  wrong, but you can even use LED different rates of flashing to
• 1:03:14
  kill people, right? Yeah, yeah, it's and.
• 1:03:18
  Produces. You could produce.
• 1:03:19
  Seizures, yeah. Different.
• 1:03:20
  So yeah, I'm not telling you all you have to do this, but I have
• 1:03:25
  made friends with the local crows.
• 1:03:28
  And I feed them and they come by every day and they call and I
• 1:03:31
  come bring out some peanuts. And then they they come and eat
• 1:03:34
  and they perch up on those lights.
• 1:03:37
  And so I'm watching them because I know they'll probably be the
• 1:03:40
  first ones to feel a change and probably drop down dead.
• 1:03:45
  Wow. Just a thought, like a Canary in
• 1:03:48
  the cold. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:03:49
  I was going to say that's your Canary, huh?
• 1:03:52
  That's right. I don't know if that's good or
• 1:03:56
  bad, Mav. I don't know how I feel about
• 1:03:57
  that. That seems friends of these
• 1:04:00
  crows. I mean, what's really going on
• 1:04:01
  here? If they only knew what you were
• 1:04:04
  using them for. All right, so technology, I just
• 1:04:10
  want to run this one out there. It's not a written down question
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  that I had, but it's I got to ask the reports that come
• 1:04:17
  through with the demonic being able to manipulate technology.
• 1:04:20
  I mean, we're breaking down just with the lights, right?
• 1:04:22
  Frequency in general, where your microphone or a frequency wave
• 1:04:27
  can actually just like echolocation, bring back an
• 1:04:30
  image to the one casting that vibration out.
• 1:04:33
  Now, in your guy's opinion, how does it work with the demonic
• 1:04:37
  realm? Do you think they're able to
• 1:04:38
  manipulate like literally the technology that we are all
• 1:04:42
  walking around with in our pockets?
• 1:04:44
  Do you think that they're beyond just the A I algorithms are able
• 1:04:48
  to, let's just say, our teenage kids every time that they jump
• 1:04:52
  on their device, whether it's on the web or any type of media
• 1:04:55
  platform at all. Do you think it's forcing a A
• 1:04:59
  frequency to keep them entangled in the mindless entertainment of
• 1:05:04
  everything that's relevant right now?
• 1:05:05
  And do you think that that also is like a forced spectrum of
• 1:05:09
  what they are considering is an interest and is that
• 1:05:12
  contributing to the sleep world, the dream world?
• 1:05:15
  I know it's like a multilayered question.
• 1:05:17
  I'm trying to get it out. I hope that was understandable
• 1:05:20
  for you guys, but I feel like there's a couple things tied
• 1:05:22
  together that I'm feeling is a similar outcome.
• 1:05:25
  Just gonna drop that one where it is.
• 1:05:27
  Somebody pick it up. Yes, OK.
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  Next question. Is that simple?
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  I mean just yes. But let me explain, so let me
• 1:05:40
  elaborate. One of the reasons is I we
• 1:05:44
  often, even in church, have this conversation where we separate
• 1:05:47
  the natural from the supernatural.
• 1:05:49
  Like there's the natural world and a supernatural world That is
• 1:05:52
  incorrect. There is no aspect of human
• 1:05:56
  existence that isn't spiritual connected to the spiritual,
• 1:05:59
  including the creation of technology.
• 1:06:01
  I mean, if we look at how technology is made and we still
• 1:06:05
  to this day have. All of these people like in
• 1:06:08
  Silicon Valley having these like micro dosing trips, getting
• 1:06:11
  information from reptilians from the other side, and even though
• 1:06:14
  they might think that's just some experience and maybe not
• 1:06:17
  true and they're just somehow expanding their brain or
• 1:06:20
  whatever, people are still having these things happening to
• 1:06:25
  them where they're getting information from the other side
• 1:06:28
  and then creating a new technology.
• 1:06:31
  You know, the technology, your screen is basically a Black
• 1:06:33
  Mirror. How did you do rituals before
• 1:06:35
  you used mirrors? You know, so all of these
• 1:06:37
  different things are related to each other.
• 1:06:40
  There's not technology isn't just some random physical thing
• 1:06:43
  that we can use and it betters our lives.
• 1:06:46
  It's taking advantage of the world that we live in.
• 1:06:49
  This terrestrial world is connected.
• 1:06:51
  That's why I like, you know, you talk about Wi-Fi like in all of
• 1:06:54
  these different things that happen in the air, you know,
• 1:06:56
  the, you know, but it's. It's in my opinion a reference
• 1:06:59
  to what is it in Ephesians, you know the powers and
• 1:07:04
  principalities and talks about the The Who.
• 1:07:09
  Is it the the, the? I can't.
• 1:07:10
  What is the words? Here?
• 1:07:11
  I'm losing the words, the powers, principalities,
• 1:07:14
  dominions, rulers. No, it says something about
• 1:07:16
  being like, yeah, the Prince of the air or something like that.
• 1:07:19
  Or yes. Powers of the.
• 1:07:21
  Air, Yeah. And so we have these types of
• 1:07:25
  conversations where you can see that.
• 1:07:27
  Technology fits in the realm of spirituality, and it doesn't
• 1:07:31
  surprise me that all it takes to alter a person's consciousness
• 1:07:36
  in some way or another is to manipulate their body with
• 1:07:39
  frequencies, because I think it's all connected.
• 1:07:41
  We do. Frequencies are real.
• 1:07:42
  I think the The New Age hijacks it and talks about chakras and
• 1:07:45
  all of this stuff, but it's like, no, no, it's a reality,
• 1:07:49
  You know, your body changes if you're wearing.
• 1:07:52
  You know, certain type of clothing, it's like there's like
• 1:07:54
  there's whole studies on it like you, I think me and you Rod had
• 1:07:58
  this conversation about wearing cotton and synthetic clothing
• 1:08:02
  and the difference in how the body changes and is like when
• 1:08:04
  you wear those sort of things. And so it's definitely
• 1:08:08
  connected. I I don't know how to elaborate
• 1:08:11
  more, but it just seems that this is.
• 1:08:16
  An obvious thing to me that the spiritual world, the physical
• 1:08:19
  world, technology is definitely a way for the evil to manipulate
• 1:08:25
  things in our existence. What I think what gets forgotten
• 1:08:28
  is TV and radio is first developed to look into the
• 1:08:31
  spirit world. That's why it was made radio, to
• 1:08:37
  listen, TV to look. And so I don't think it's for no
• 1:08:42
  reason that. What we have today has a veiled
• 1:08:47
  understanding around frequencies, even to where
• 1:08:50
  people say that it doesn't matter.
• 1:08:53
  And yet it might be the most significant area of technology
• 1:08:55
  that we're not exploring that the technology that we have that
• 1:08:59
  we use. And I know a lot of people
• 1:09:01
  falsely think that they are in the pinnacle of technology if
• 1:09:05
  they have certain devices, certain things.
• 1:09:08
  We only have we the the US, the the, the normal common people.
• 1:09:13
  Are with our common reach. We only have technology that can
• 1:09:17
  be metered. If it can't be metered, we don't
• 1:09:19
  have it because they can't make money from those things.
• 1:09:22
  And we're dependent on release of technology.
• 1:09:25
  We don't, even if we develop something new.
• 1:09:28
  And I'm probably stepping on dangerous grounds.
• 1:09:30
  My uncle was an inventor, and for anyone who might be
• 1:09:33
  watching, I don't have any of his things.
• 1:09:35
  I don't have any of his notebooks or information and
• 1:09:37
  things like that. But he was delving into a
• 1:09:39
  completely different area of technology, and I know that I
• 1:09:42
  absolutely know for a fact that his his findings and his
• 1:09:46
  inventions were used by the military and it has now been
• 1:09:49
  used in zero common man application, even though it
• 1:09:54
  would literally change, change lives, not in use, not anywhere
• 1:09:59
  on the spectrum. And so as far as technology
• 1:10:02
  goes, I think that we are, we have a heavily manipulated
• 1:10:06
  technology tree. Today.
• 1:10:09
  And so unless you are in those higher levels of science, you'll
• 1:10:11
  never see it unless you actually go.
• 1:10:13
  And that's why people go into higher levels of science with
• 1:10:15
  corporations and universities, because otherwise you won't have
• 1:10:19
  access to those. So first, my take away.
• 1:10:23
  The very first take away that I got is Maverick is not the
• 1:10:27
  favorite nephew. Because he didn't get any any of
• 1:10:32
  the paperwork. But second, yeah, I'm friends
• 1:10:35
  with an inventor and he is inventing a free energy machine
• 1:10:41
  that uses, that uses the sky. It operates in the exact same
• 1:10:46
  principle as antigraph. And yeah, and it's and once once
• 1:10:51
  it's explained to, you're like, Oh my goodness, it's so simple.
• 1:10:54
  But, you know, we're so trained to think in these material ways.
• 1:10:59
  In in the illusions that have been created for us through NASA
• 1:11:02
  and all that, all that nonsense that that we we can and even
• 1:11:11
  possibly grasp the without intense study and understanding
• 1:11:16
  the how the how the world actually works.
• 1:11:18
  And it's actually scary when you do start to study how the world
• 1:11:21
  really works, cuz then you start to figure out how much we've
• 1:11:24
  been lied to. And I mean my biggest crash of
• 1:11:27
  where where I almost lost my brain.
• 1:11:29
  My noodle almost snapped. Was just finding out that money
• 1:11:31
  wasn't at all what we thought it was.
• 1:11:34
  And this was back in 20/10/2009 and my mind is like, what?
• 1:11:41
  Money is a contract. That's it.
• 1:11:43
  And so when that happened to me, my mind broke.
• 1:11:48
  So so my mind's already broken guys.
• 1:11:51
  I can go and look into into anything.
• 1:11:53
  Yeah, and you know, according to the leads.
• 1:11:57
  We're the dumb ones for not knowing because they've told us
• 1:11:59
  the truth, in my opinion, in the movies, because you see this
• 1:12:03
  theme in the movies all of the time where there's technology
• 1:12:06
  that's way beyond us and we don't have it.
• 1:12:09
  It's not for us. You know, perfect example that,
• 1:12:11
  you know, I know Enoch can relate to is the movie Elysium
• 1:12:14
  and these Med beds that can just heal anybody and things like
• 1:12:17
  that. Yeah.
• 1:12:21
  And so that's kind of my point, like this stuff is out there.
• 1:12:25
  We've not even been, I wouldn't say we've not been lied to, per
• 1:12:28
  se. It's like, no, you're just not
• 1:12:31
  smart enough to pick it up. So they're they think they're
• 1:12:34
  cool. They're not going to get their
• 1:12:35
  karmic blowback. Maybe because they've told us in
• 1:12:37
  our face through our entertainment, through our, you
• 1:12:40
  know, music, movies, that this is the reality of things.
• 1:12:43
  Something cool comes out, military takes it, You never see
• 1:12:46
  it again. And that's how it is.
• 1:12:48
  And so it's just, it's got to pay attention.
• 1:12:50
  How do we combat this though, right?
• 1:12:52
  I mean, just one glance at the word of God, right?
• 1:12:56
  We see that David takes an E FOD when he's in one of his worst
• 1:13:00
  situations, right? So his men are going to betray
• 1:13:03
  him and kill him because everything has been pillaged,
• 1:13:06
  right? And I forget the exact verse.
• 1:13:08
  I don't remember like verse, but I know it's in there.
• 1:13:11
  And David is hearing the rumors of his own men wanting to stone
• 1:13:16
  and kill him, right? And so this is ancient story,
• 1:13:21
  right? I I believe the word of God.
• 1:13:22
  I believe what happened is still relevant and can be used today.
• 1:13:25
  But there's some misconceptions here.
• 1:13:27
  But but Long story short, David takes the ephod and choirs of
• 1:13:30
  the Lord. The Lord says go strike them
• 1:13:33
  back. You're going to gain back
• 1:13:34
  everything and their plunder, right.
• 1:13:36
  And it's like the word is there for our edification, for our
• 1:13:40
  increase that we may understand. So, like, we're talking about
• 1:13:42
  all these things going on today, Frequency and these different
• 1:13:45
  weapons and how we are being systematically broken down.
• 1:13:49
  But we know the weapons of our warfare are not physical
• 1:13:53
  weapons, but they're they're spiritual for pulling down
• 1:13:56
  strongholds. So, Nate, do you have some
• 1:13:58
  encouragement for us in the area of how do we bite back and
• 1:14:02
  combat through prayer? What is, what is God kind of
• 1:14:05
  leading us in As we're becoming aware of the Matrix, some of us
• 1:14:09
  are waking up. Some of us have been on the boat
• 1:14:11
  for a little while eating the tasteless oatmeal.
• 1:14:14
  How do we fight back? Yeah, I OK.
• 1:14:18
  So just just a couple of of layers from from my perspective.
• 1:14:22
  But I I've talked about this on some of you guys' shows before.
• 1:14:26
  But I always think it's funny when we picture angels, they
• 1:14:30
  still have like bows and arrows or Spears and swords and yeah, I
• 1:14:34
  I think they do. But think about how much our
• 1:14:38
  weapons have advanced and and the type of.
• 1:14:41
  Technology we have at our disposal for warfare today and
• 1:14:45
  how much more. So do do angels have this
• 1:14:48
  arsenal? Like do they have weapons that
• 1:14:51
  force beings into another dimension or or I don't know
• 1:14:55
  destabilize their their atoms being held together?
• 1:14:58
  I I've no idea. But I think a theme we see
• 1:15:02
  throughout Scripture is the. And I want to be careful when I
• 1:15:05
  say this because there's a lot of.
• 1:15:08
  Accusations of heretics and stuff who talk about this, but I
• 1:15:10
  think there's a lot of power in sound that we see throughout
• 1:15:15
  scripture. I think of David when he's
• 1:15:17
  playing the harp for Saul during during for Samuel work homes
• 1:15:23
  him. I think of how God used to have
• 1:15:25
  the the trumpeters and and musicians walking ahead of
• 1:15:30
  Israel's army playing sound as they go into battle around the
• 1:15:34
  walls of Jericho and how. Their sound actually caused the
• 1:15:38
  walls of Jericho to to fall. I think there's something about
• 1:15:42
  our prayer when it said out loud, you know, it's not just in
• 1:15:46
  our head, but it's it's out loud again.
• 1:15:48
  So I think ways we can combat it is, you know, praying through
• 1:15:53
  our place, praying over our technology, how much, how many
• 1:15:57
  of us pray over situations and pray over our, our house,
• 1:16:00
  etcetera, but. Have we prayed over our
• 1:16:02
  technology before? Have we dedicated it to God?
• 1:16:05
  I think there's a number of different ways we can begin to
• 1:16:09
  just rededicate our technological lives to God.
• 1:16:13
  Because again, technology can be used in in wonderful ways, but
• 1:16:17
  can be used in in dark and nefarious ways too in in my
• 1:16:21
  opinion. Dan Duvall has some fantastic
• 1:16:24
  prayers for for creating hedge of protection around your your
• 1:16:29
  house through all dimensions. Stuff that I really like his his
• 1:16:33
  prayers, his sermons are are a bit odd but but so so if you go
• 1:16:40
  and listen to his sermons then you don't and you don't like his
• 1:16:43
  sermons that's you know that's that's totally fine but his
• 1:16:45
  prayers his prayers which go against satanic ritual abuse and
• 1:16:48
  all that. So it helps you to understand
• 1:16:52
  that that kind of stuff. But anyway, just thought I'd
• 1:16:54
  throw that out there for anyone who wants to know.
• 1:16:56
  You could download his app. It's it's the Bible.
• 1:17:02
  Bible Bride Ministries and and yeah on every episode that I've
• 1:17:08
  done since his I believe first time is on the show.
• 1:17:10
  Over a year ago, I put that link in the show notes.
• 1:17:13
  So you guys that are listening you can drop down to the show
• 1:17:16
  notes here on this episode or any other episode on the Mustard
• 1:17:19
  Seed and go directly to Bride Ministries.
• 1:17:22
  For what Enoch is reiterating is.
• 1:17:25
  I believe the prayers are what's been neglected and hence the
• 1:17:29
  reason. Real quick, I'll drop this Mav
• 1:17:31
  and Chuck, you guys did this prayer episode recently and that
• 1:17:36
  is that's so important you guys, because we're called to bind the
• 1:17:40
  strong man before we plunge the house.
• 1:17:42
  And the corporate church as a whole spends maybe 5 minutes
• 1:17:45
  praying. It's not a priority to pray.
• 1:17:49
  And so I just want to highlight that and very Nate, very good
• 1:17:55
  response and just it's powerful man.
• 1:17:57
  The word of God has life in it. It has power in it.
• 1:18:00
  And I think as we kind of wind down, we can all just share, you
• 1:18:03
  know, scripture, testimony, whatever's on your guy's heart.
• 1:18:06
  But I just want to say first and foremost, each one of you being
• 1:18:09
  here and taking the time to wrestle through these ideas,
• 1:18:12
  share your opinions, We might not see the ripple effect,
• 1:18:17
  right? We might not.
• 1:18:18
  I remember when I when I first talked with Doctor Laura on the
• 1:18:21
  phone ever before, we got on the on a podcast episode 2 1/2 years
• 1:18:26
  ago and she told me about what her reaction to listening to a
• 1:18:31
  podcast caused her to dive into research that led to the roots
• 1:18:35
  of the Federal Reserve. Which Enoch, you're saying what
• 1:18:37
  broke your mind was realizing money is just a contract so we
• 1:18:40
  never know the ripple effect. This should be encouraging.
• 1:18:43
  We are speaking life. We're taking a stance in Christ
• 1:18:47
  and you guys are awesome. So I mean that's kind of my two
• 1:18:50
  cents as we we kind of wind down.
• 1:18:52
  Yeah, go ahead, man. No, I was going to say I kind of
• 1:18:55
  wanted to riff off of what Nathan was saying and a little
• 1:18:58
  bit of what Enoch was saying too.
• 1:18:59
  But I think the areas we don't look into nearly enough, even
• 1:19:04
  not just technology, just in in in general is sound and smell.
• 1:19:08
  I've been trying to look into smell a bit more because it
• 1:19:13
  talks about incense and very specific mixture of incense that
• 1:19:17
  could be used in the temple. People report things and Nathan
• 1:19:21
  could talk about it. People report smells with
• 1:19:24
  different interactions with different entities and things
• 1:19:27
  like that. I think we just, we just totally
• 1:19:29
  glance over it. We don't even look into those
• 1:19:32
  things. And those might be really,
• 1:19:34
  really important areas. Definitely the sound, but I
• 1:19:36
  really haven't heard anyone talk about smell.
• 1:19:38
  That's sort of the other one. But apparently it's important
• 1:19:40
  because in Revelation it talks about incense and smell quite a
• 1:19:44
  bit. But I think, and going off of
• 1:19:47
  something else Chuck was saying too, I think if we take the
• 1:19:50
  categories of fiction and news. And flip flop them, we probably
• 1:19:54
  would get a lot more out of things.
• 1:19:56
  So the things that they're putting out there is fiction,
• 1:19:59
  movies, TV. If we paid more attention to
• 1:20:01
  those and less attention to to the news that they want to put
• 1:20:05
  out there as this is the real information, we probably would
• 1:20:08
  be going down the right paths of research and and intellectual
• 1:20:12
  pursuits. That's just side thought, but
• 1:20:17
  about the categorization and this is where it's going to come
• 1:20:20
  back to. We're talking about, I think we
• 1:20:25
  too often let the world set the categories of what's important,
• 1:20:31
  what's not important. Because when it comes down to
• 1:20:36
  it, you could have the entire New World or New World Order
• 1:20:40
  army staring you down. And you, you still have to do
• 1:20:46
  the you still have to wake up. You still have to pray for your
• 1:20:49
  family. Pray over your family.
• 1:20:52
  You still have to move forward and seek the Lord.
• 1:20:55
  All those things are are still the most important things, all
• 1:20:58
  of those things. And they're they're the first
• 1:20:59
  things that we should think of and and yet we let these other
• 1:21:01
  categories let their categorization seep in And I'll
• 1:21:05
  use one example. Mark of the Beast.
• 1:21:08
  I don't know how many different podcasts, videos to talk about
• 1:21:13
  Mark of the Beast and they so emphasize can't buy or sell as
• 1:21:18
  if that's the most important thing stated.
• 1:21:23
  And I've heard almost nothing talked about of worship of the
• 1:21:26
  Beast. So why is buy or sell the most
• 1:21:30
  important aspect but not the worship aspect?
• 1:21:35
  It it kind of tells tells us what categories were tricked
• 1:21:39
  into thinking you're the most important.
• 1:21:41
  What happens if I can't buy or sell?
• 1:21:43
  Oh I don't know. Food and water are still free.
• 1:21:47
  You can still go find it. You can still go get these
• 1:21:50
  things, but we have this category of all the if God wants
• 1:21:54
  to provide these things for us, we have to buy or sell it.
• 1:21:57
  And that's a false category you have.
• 1:22:00
  You have way too many Christians focusing on dumb stuff that
• 1:22:05
  doesn't matter. Like, why is that the most
• 1:22:07
  important aspect of this thing? Instead of getting your heart
• 1:22:11
  right and your mind right, and if you're worshipping the Lord,
• 1:22:14
  I could, we could pour into 100 different passages where it
• 1:22:17
  talks about how the Lord is going to care and provide for
• 1:22:19
  you. So why aren't we leaning on that
• 1:22:21
  instead of just being so scared about, Oh no, the mark of the
• 1:22:24
  beast. What if I accidentally take the
• 1:22:27
  mark of the Beast? Well, if you can't accidentally
• 1:22:30
  become a Christian, you can't accidentally become a beast
• 1:22:35
  worshipper. You know, it's not doesn't work
• 1:22:37
  like that. I think we've we've muddied it
• 1:22:39
  to the point where it's so confusing for people and it's
• 1:22:44
  not. It's very simple.
• 1:22:46
  It's just simple. Doesn't sell books, so.
• 1:22:50
  One one thing that that I wanted to to bring in is for the times
• 1:22:55
  that that we're going in because we're talking about frequency
• 1:22:58
  and colors and and smell and our senses and all that sort of and
• 1:23:04
  all of that sort of important information.
• 1:23:08
  But what what I've discovered with you know when when you
• 1:23:11
  start studying CERN and D wave? And and what they're
• 1:23:15
  communicating with, right. You said the TV and radio was
• 1:23:19
  invented to talk to the the other dimension and well that's
• 1:23:23
  what CERN and D wave is developed to do as well just
• 1:23:29
  faster and so. So our realm is or or where we
• 1:23:38
  reside? Where we reside.
• 1:23:41
  Is if you just think of it on a, on a on an elevator and so we're
• 1:23:46
  slowly like our our realm is slowly going down or is are
• 1:23:52
  going down towards the that demonic realm And so when you
• 1:23:58
  read revelation and you think everyone's telling you it's it's
• 1:24:03
  just it's just giving you descriptors.
• 1:24:05
  It's not. It's not focusing in No, no,
• 1:24:08
  we're going to see Dragons. We're going to see these demonic
• 1:24:12
  things everywhere all of these creatures we're going to we're
• 1:24:16
  going to see them and and if if you look so with with MUFON they
• 1:24:22
  have a they've mapped out the where you could see all of the
• 1:24:28
  the alien sightings and and just so people can understand what
• 1:24:35
  happened when. With what is it?
• 1:24:41
  Oh my goodness, I have a Babylon rising.
• 1:24:44
  The the ritual, the sexual ritual that they did down at
• 1:24:49
  Babylon working. Babylon.
• 1:24:50
  Yeah, Babylon working, right, so.
• 1:24:52
  So that was a ritual to allow the to create, that created a
• 1:24:57
  portal that brought the frequency down to the area so
• 1:24:59
  that a a like these, what we're calling spaceships, was able to
• 1:25:06
  appear. And if you look in in on the map
• 1:25:09
  of Mufon, right, they've mapped it up. the United States is
• 1:25:14
  covered in in these in these sightings, which means portals
• 1:25:20
  have been opened in those in those areas and if in the United
• 1:25:25
  States is just covered. And so the United States, as far
• 1:25:28
  as falling in in a in a realm, in an in an area, it is, has
• 1:25:33
  fallen really far. And is on par and that's why
• 1:25:36
  there's so many sightings in the United States with all this
• 1:25:40
  weird stuff. In Canada we get some sightings
• 1:25:43
  and again you look at the map and in Canada it's not nearly as
• 1:25:48
  as like the United States is lit up.
• 1:25:52
  It's just lit up. I sent I sent a video to my
• 1:25:56
  group to show them the the MUFON.
• 1:25:59
  You know so you're up there's there's there's Europe and
• 1:26:02
  that's still not as crazy as the United States the United States
• 1:26:05
  is is mystery Babylon in in in my mind but so but if you but if
• 1:26:11
  you understand if you understand that we are all moving down
• 1:26:16
  right like an elevator we're moving down to the lower the
• 1:26:19
  lower floors right. And that's that's the Holy
• 1:26:22
  Spirit. As we move away the Holy Spirit,
• 1:26:24
  then the Great Restrainer. Because we've allowed it.
• 1:26:27
  We are the ones who are doing it.
• 1:26:29
  It's war. It's man battling man.
• 1:26:33
  And because the man who is you know the the the deep state is
• 1:26:38
  all is is men. Men are tampering with all this
• 1:26:41
  stuff until until finally the last 3 1/2 years when when the
• 1:26:47
  battle in heaven and all of the the third of angels fall to
• 1:26:51
  earth, that's that's when things get really Cray.
• 1:26:55
  So. That's when it's no longer just
• 1:26:57
  man fighting man, it's it. It would be the the, the fallen
• 1:27:01
  angels and what man is left battling anyway.
• 1:27:06
  So. So I just wanted to throw that
• 1:27:08
  out because if you can think that, if you can think about
• 1:27:10
  that that that that were and then reread revelation and then
• 1:27:15
  you may be able to really grasp some of the craziness that's
• 1:27:19
  that's coming anyway. So I got my 5 minutes there.
• 1:27:21
  Look at that well, As for me. I've taken information as at
• 1:27:31
  sort of like a burden sometimes, you know sometimes do feel like
• 1:27:35
  cipher from the Matrix where it's like I wish I didn't know
• 1:27:37
  about this stuff to be honest like yeah, I was like you just
• 1:27:40
  be completely ignorant and you know not know and just kind of
• 1:27:44
  be blue pilled as they say. But what I like to say is that
• 1:27:48
  knowing this information comes with a responsibility, you know.
• 1:27:51
  So if you're going to go down certain paths, I do recommend.
• 1:27:56
  Christian, don't be afraid to look into alternative medicine.
• 1:28:00
  I'm not telling you what to do. I'm not a doctor or nothing like
• 1:28:02
  that. But some of that stuff has
• 1:28:05
  helped me for sure. I always look at these new ages
• 1:28:09
  and some of the stuff that they post, and if I if it doesn't
• 1:28:12
  feel convicting to me, as in it's somehow bothering my walk
• 1:28:18
  with God or it's like, like, I don't know, doing ritual yoga or
• 1:28:21
  something like that, I'm not going to do that, right?
• 1:28:23
  But. If it's something else, like
• 1:28:25
  grounding, for example, I saw an episode on grounding or
• 1:28:28
  documentary and it I tried it out, it seemed to work for me to
• 1:28:31
  help with inflammation. It did, it did help with a lot
• 1:28:35
  of things when I work out or when I do my martial arts in the
• 1:28:39
  grass, like with my feet on the ground.
• 1:28:42
  And I'll do it for an hour to almost two hours and I have like
• 1:28:46
  little to no soreness after even days after.
• 1:28:49
  But if I do it in the Dojo in A room.
• 1:28:52
  I'm super sore. I'm like my body hurts and
• 1:28:55
  things like that. So there's like a difference.
• 1:28:56
  There's So what I'm saying is don't be afraid to look at these
• 1:28:59
  things. You know be you know make some
• 1:29:01
  decisions. You know that food that is
• 1:29:06
  processed isn't good for you. Don't don't eat it.
• 1:29:09
  You know don't eat as much of it.
• 1:29:10
  You know make some changes here. And I I I saw a service not too
• 1:29:15
  long ago in the. The guy, the guest speaker was
• 1:29:18
  like, I'm from Tennessee, so, you know, my heart belongs to
• 1:29:21
  Jesus. But, but, but my body's built by
• 1:29:24
  pork, you know what I mean? And then he, he goes on to make
• 1:29:27
  fun of how bad his health got. And God helped him through that
• 1:29:32
  process. I'm like, well, God had grace on
• 1:29:33
  you, brother, but you weren't supposed to be eating like you
• 1:29:36
  were like you're eating. So, you know, be make decisions
• 1:29:39
  that are that are better for your health.
• 1:29:41
  You know, like I said, I try. To do intermittent fasting, I
• 1:29:45
  try to do a lot of different things that are good for my body
• 1:29:48
  to be there so that I can be there for my family when longer.
• 1:29:54
  You know, I think we have this ability to either expand our
• 1:29:58
  life or shorten our life to an extent.
• 1:30:00
  I know when it's time to go, it's time to go.
• 1:30:02
  But I think we have to be smart and eat better.
• 1:30:07
  Look for ways to make your body healthy because people
• 1:30:11
  underestimate. Your temple, you know, you are
• 1:30:15
  the temple of God. You wouldn't go to a church and
• 1:30:18
  throw a bunch of trash in there and treat it like crab or
• 1:30:20
  whatever. You wouldn't destroy it.
• 1:30:22
  But yet we do that with our bodies a lot of the time.
• 1:30:24
  Why would you do that? You know?
• 1:30:25
  So you know, men, you know, work out a little bit, get strong,
• 1:30:29
  you know, be useful, don't be this little weakling guy, you
• 1:30:32
  know? So I don't know.
• 1:30:35
  This is just for me. This is how really God has been
• 1:30:39
  working on me in my heart and I'm trying.
• 1:30:43
  And yeah, I'm not the best at it.
• 1:30:44
  I'm not saying I'm super healthy.
• 1:30:45
  If you look at me, I'm a little big boy, you know, But I'm
• 1:30:49
  getting healthier and healthier as I get older.
• 1:30:51
  I'm trying to work on really building my temple.
• 1:30:54
  I see it that way. I I give that over to God.
• 1:30:57
  And it's not just this vanity thing.
• 1:30:58
  Like, I just want six pack dude. I want biceps that are like turn
• 1:31:02
  out of my tshirt dude. It's nothing like that.
• 1:31:04
  It's about. Really becoming useful as a as a
• 1:31:08
  man, in my opinion. Being able to protect my
• 1:31:10
  daughter, my wife, if I have to. And those are, I think necessary
• 1:31:15
  things. So maybe more practical.
• 1:31:17
  Almost possibly you might say, unrelated to any of the stuff
• 1:31:20
  we're talking about. But again, smell all of that
• 1:31:25
  stuff. It's it's a spiritual
• 1:31:27
  experience, including your body. I think exercise and health is
• 1:31:31
  the most underrated spiritual experience.
• 1:31:33
  People are just kind of. Bought into the system and
• 1:31:36
  they're just moving along with not thinking about it at all.
• 1:31:39
  And I think it's important. Yeah, I think if you bought
• 1:31:43
  smaller tshirts you could rip out.
• 1:31:46
  Yeah, that's all I got to do. Well, we're going to close out
• 1:31:56
  here. I think it's it's definitely
• 1:31:58
  necessary. We do a Part 2 roundtable
• 1:32:00
  episode because there's so much more I want to ask you guys.
• 1:32:04
  And the diversity of the responses, the agreements, and
• 1:32:07
  even the different perspectives here are healthy for us to look
• 1:32:11
  at into, for us to deal with the the elephant in the room.
• 1:32:15
  A lot of the times, you guys, is everything that the church won't
• 1:32:18
  deal with and everything that we're being nudged at.
• 1:32:22
  Hey, how do I process this now? Everybody's at a different place
• 1:32:24
  of your walk. And I'm hoping this episode
• 1:32:27
  helped you guys. I'm hoping you got some
• 1:32:28
  questions answered here. I'm hoping it causes you guys to
• 1:32:31
  dig deeper into your Bible and to not fear.
• 1:32:34
  Don't be afraid. Whatever's on the news, whatever
• 1:32:36
  they're telling you, we need to trust in Christ.
• 1:32:39
  He's got the answers for us. And there's some great
• 1:32:42
  information that was covered here on this round Table
• 1:32:44
  episode. So let's close out Mav.
• 1:32:50
  You have what's your show called?
• 1:32:51
  Everybody do a plug here real quick.
• 1:32:53
  Let's go across the squares. Plug where you're coming from
• 1:32:56
  real quick. Information on what your show
• 1:32:58
  is, anything that you guys are doing cool and exciting right
• 1:33:02
  now. Yeah, I'm Co hosting with Chuck
• 1:33:04
  on Fire Theft Radio and so slide in and get to be in in that
• 1:33:09
  episode or all those episodes on that on that podcast.
• 1:33:12
  So that's definitely it. And then I've got my, my other
• 1:33:16
  stuff. I'm on Twitter.
• 1:33:17
  I'm on Instagram, YouTube, Govin off Sundays.
• 1:33:21
  I do a stream kind of more directed at unbelievers who
• 1:33:27
  might be interested in sort of biblical topics.
• 1:33:30
  So yeah, that's what I got. Search for Maverick Pilgrim or
• 1:33:34
  the one Maverick Pilgrim. So.
• 1:33:37
  Nate Where can people find you? Sure.
• 1:33:40
  Our our main podcast myself and my cohost is called Midnight
• 1:33:44
  Mysteries and we're based here in Edmonton, AB, Canada.
• 1:33:47
  Shout out to to Enoch who is also here in Alberta.
• 1:33:51
  I'm slowly starting to start a second podcast called Paranormal
• 1:33:57
  Pastor. Midnight Mysteries is a is a
• 1:34:00
  bridge podcast. It's not a Christian podcast,
• 1:34:03
  but it's run by a mix of people where our belief inherently
• 1:34:07
  bleeds through. Whereas Paranormal Pastor would
• 1:34:10
  be more tackling these perspectives from a Christian
• 1:34:15
  worldview, a Christian perspective to Christians.
• 1:34:18
  I'm a former investigator for MUFON now.
• 1:34:21
  I'm Mufon's Community Connections director.
• 1:34:27
  And Enoch, where can people find you?
• 1:34:32
  They need just to think of me, come to them in their dreams.
• 1:34:38
  What? Creepy.
• 1:34:43
  Kindly. Kindly not, like a sucker or
• 1:34:46
  whatever, whatever. That kind of dream.
• 1:34:49
  OK, yeah. No, no, Just hanging out.
• 1:34:51
  It's not. No bro.
• 1:34:52
  Here's here's some Java. Oh, you.
• 1:34:54
  Don't drink coffee? Here's a.
• 1:34:55
  Cocoa, right? Maybe like that.
• 1:34:58
  Let's chat. You can find.
• 1:35:00
  You can find me on the rundown of our Reality Rumble Bitch
• 1:35:05
  Shoot and YouTube. Tube is censored.
• 1:35:07
  So I just released the whole chess board video which gets
• 1:35:15
  into a lot of understanding. It's a crash course.
• 1:35:19
  I don't spoon feed you. I show you what my claims are if
• 1:35:25
  you will. To me it's like this is what I
• 1:35:27
  figured out, but what my claims are.
• 1:35:29
  And then I have a library where you can go and you can.
• 1:35:32
  Research all of the pretty info and the links are in the
• 1:35:37
  description under my videos and that's the rundown of our
• 1:35:42
  reality and you can see me on. You can hear me also on the
• 1:35:46
  Millennial Mustard seed. I'm a frequent guest and
• 1:35:51
  probably on FTR as well, cuz we were talking about getting back
• 1:35:55
  on. And Nathan, if you if you want
• 1:35:58
  to chat about the weird, I am always available.
• 1:36:03
  So it's just if it's in the morning, make sure you call me.
• 1:36:06
  Thank you. Give you a heads up?
• 1:36:10
  And Big Brother Chuck, Where can people find you, my bro?
• 1:36:13
  Well, Matt, plug it in. You know, just fire theft radio.
• 1:36:15
  You can do Instagram, Facebook. You can e-mail us at
• 1:36:20
  firetheftradio@gmail.com if you don't like something like
• 1:36:24
  something. I'm pretty open to discussion.
• 1:36:27
  You don't have to agree with me. I've had people definitely
• 1:36:29
  message me in disagreement with things that we talk about, and I
• 1:36:34
  encourage them to use the website firetheftradio.com.
• 1:36:37
  You can stream it directly from there and you can interact with
• 1:36:41
  people that leave comments and things like that.
• 1:36:43
  And I got to say that last episode, call to prayer, I got
• 1:36:46
  way more interaction than I ever thought I would.
• 1:36:52
  I think I've gotten the most interaction so quickly.
• 1:36:55
  From any episode we've ever posted about people wanting to
• 1:36:57
  join in on prayer, about people needing to hear that episode,
• 1:37:01
  that it was very uplifting for them.
• 1:37:04
  And I'm very pleasantly surprised.
• 1:37:06
  I know God is moving because I don't know I just I just felt
• 1:37:11
  it. I I got to blame the ministry
• 1:37:14
  that you know the the I believe he's he's well it's kind of
• 1:37:17
  confusing. His page is like the fifth
• 1:37:19
  horse. But he has the 4th watch.
• 1:37:22
  But it's not the 4th watch that's from the fall brothers.
• 1:37:25
  But I put it in in the in the show notes of that episode so
• 1:37:30
  you can join him for all the men out there.
• 1:37:33
  He does a Bible study and he really encouraged me with his
• 1:37:38
  Bible study and he said something that's kind of changed
• 1:37:41
  my my mind a little bit. Put me in in the next in that
• 1:37:44
  extra gear which is You are the only Bible someone will ever
• 1:37:49
  read. You know, so in living in that
• 1:37:52
  way has made me like, like, OK, you got it.
• 1:37:56
  You have to be a representation of the Kingdom of God wherever
• 1:38:00
  you are because you might be the only Bible someone might ever
• 1:38:03
  read. And in doing so, how that has
• 1:38:05
  changed the aspect of how I approach certain things a little
• 1:38:07
  bit more, I don't know, I guess you can say, connected to my
• 1:38:12
  faith. And so I encourage everyone, if
• 1:38:14
  you want to join us in prayer, go listen to that episode.
• 1:38:16
  We have some instructions in there.
• 1:38:19
  And join us in prayer, man. We need we need the guidance of
• 1:38:21
  God to the Holy Spirit and all of these things.
• 1:38:24
  Especially when we're diving into the weird and exposing some
• 1:38:28
  things that are in darkness and and that comes with a terrible
• 1:38:32
  price. But I I I'm not afraid because I
• 1:38:35
  am covered by the Lord Jesus Christ so but so we have to we
• 1:38:40
  have to do that though we have to put ourselves in that
• 1:38:42
  position. So I encourage everyone to go to
• 1:38:45
  check that out. I want, I want to throw out
• 1:38:47
  there too, on Twitter or X or whatever you want I want to call
• 1:38:50
  it. I'm trying to start a more
• 1:38:52
  public prayer, sort of a prayer meeting every day.
• 1:38:56
  So every day I try to post, you know, what did you pray for?
• 1:38:59
  I want to pray with you. Do you need prayer?
• 1:39:02
  And I've gotten a couple people to, to jump in there.
• 1:39:04
  But, you know, I think if we can, whether you're on there now
• 1:39:08
  or not, that's where people are. And there are people who want
• 1:39:11
  prayer. There are people who want to
• 1:39:13
  understand that they think God is far away and you praying for
• 1:39:16
  them brings God near and so kind of a little experiment.
• 1:39:20
  But if you wanna be part of the experiment, Math Pilgrim on
• 1:39:22
  Twitter or X or whatever it is, and let's see if we can get
• 1:39:27
  people to think about this more just in their everyday lives.
• 1:39:30
  One of the one of the things that I'm going to be doing for
• 1:39:34
  my next videos, the first one, is the anatomy of a skin Walker,
• 1:39:42
  right? So I'm explaining how skin
• 1:39:44
  walkers came to be. And the next one I'm doing is
• 1:39:48
  the anatomy of a prayer. So what when when we talk about
• 1:39:51
  prayer, what does that mean? And I'm doing it in that I'm
• 1:39:55
  doing it in that order because people need to understand the
• 1:39:58
  craziness of the demonic realm. And then so when they understand
• 1:40:02
  that and then they'll understand the power of prayer afterwards.
• 1:40:06
  Because it's if you go to the power of prayer, people look
• 1:40:08
  like. Right.
• 1:40:10
  Prayer. I'm gonna pray for you right.
• 1:40:12
  Like those where you get those people on on Facebook's like you
• 1:40:16
  know thoughts and prayers and like what's that gonna do.
• 1:40:19
  Prayer is really powerful if you understand and you do it
• 1:40:22
  correctly. So so yeah show show the
• 1:40:26
  demonics side, you know and and if people are fearful, I mean
• 1:40:29
  that's where they are in their walk.
• 1:40:31
  Well, when you start seeing these, these creatures out
• 1:40:33
  there, that fear is gonna start growing, so much so that many
• 1:40:37
  people are gonna drop dead. And so when you understand, when
• 1:40:42
  you understand the prayer, it will help people to understand
• 1:40:45
  why you don't have to fear so. So the best for last.
• 1:40:50
  Psalms 25. Verse one unto thee, O Lord, do
• 1:40:54
  I lift up my soul. Oh my God, I trust in thee.
• 1:40:58
  Let me not be ashamed. Let not my enemies triumph over
• 1:41:02
  me. Yeah, let none that weight on
• 1:41:05
  thee be ashamed. Let them be ashamed, which
• 1:41:09
  transgress without a cause. Show unto meet thy ways of God
• 1:41:13
  and teach me thy parents. Lead me in thy truth and teach
• 1:41:19
  me well. That's it.
• 1:41:21
  That's the show, everybody. This is worth sharing with your
• 1:41:25
  coworkers, with your friends, with your family members.
• 1:41:28
  I love you guys as an audience because you guys are.
• 1:41:31
  We're a small, powerful group, Is the way that I always depict
• 1:41:34
  you guys to everybody else. We are.
• 1:41:36
  Walking by faith and not by sight.
• 1:41:38
  So you've been equipped here, which means share this with
• 1:41:41
  another prayer warrior and go leave everybody on this round
• 1:41:45
  table discussion of Chuck and Mav and Enoch and Nate.
• 1:41:49
  Go leave them five star rating reviews and really pray about
• 1:41:53
  the information and seek. God to to take you deeper for
• 1:41:57
  what you're calling might be because we're diverse body
• 1:42:00
  diversity of gifts, but we have one membership through the blood
• 1:42:04
  of Yeshua coming to you from Southeastern Pennsylvania.
• 1:42:07
  God bless and goodbye. Appreciate each one of you guys
• 1:43:03
  and you all bring something to the table.
• 1:43:05
  You now has a question. No, it brings questions.
• 1:43:10
  I'm brewing some coffee, so in 5 minutes I'll probably just run
• 1:43:14
  upstairs and grab it and bring it down if that's OK.
• 1:43:17
  Yes. No, it's not OK.
• 1:43:19
  No. So I just wanted to share a
• 1:43:26
  couple of the thoughts and stuff that was impressed upon me in
• 1:43:30
  prayer and just with what's going on in the world right now
• 1:43:34
  about why I wanted to ask you guys to come here.
• 1:43:38
  Obviously, we're combating a lot of false information right now.
• 1:43:42
  There's a lot of stuff floating around out there and there's a
• 1:43:45
  small group of serious believers, and each one of us
• 1:43:49
  has been given. By God, a ministry, a unique
• 1:43:52
  voice to be able to reach certain people.
• 1:43:53
  So I think coming together, you guys are going to be able to
• 1:43:56
  talk about stuff that I necessarily wouldn't be able to
• 1:43:58
  connect the dots on. But you know, there's a lot of
• 1:44:02
  young believers right now that are really wrestling through
• 1:44:05
  with the Billy Carson deception. You know, you can learn daughter
• 1:44:10
  and her friends and just my younger cousins, it's just
• 1:44:13
  famous on TikTok, right. We see just a lot of a lot of
• 1:44:16
  deception going on, so. And I want to encourage the the
• 1:44:21
  listeners at some point and and you guys will do this just
• 1:44:24
  according to the spirit but that we have victory in Christ.
• 1:44:28
  You know like I want to cover information and and whatever
• 1:44:31
  happens happens on this recording but we know that
• 1:44:33
  Christ is king and I really want to back up and support towards
• 1:44:38
  the end. I have a personal motive to back
• 1:44:40
  up and support the prayer episode that Chuck, you and Mav
• 1:44:44
  did, because that's heavily needed.
• 1:44:47
  We. I think we all just understand.
• 1:44:50
  I'm just kind of rattling some stuff off That's like, this is
• 1:44:52
  where my heart's at for this recording.
• 1:44:54
  But and other than that, man, it's battle's real.
• 1:45:02
  I appreciate what you guys have been doing.
• 1:45:05
  And for each one, you know, Mav, this is the first time I get to
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  see you and say hi to you, man. It's a pleasure to finally see
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  your face and hear your voice on the screen here.
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  Yeah, get to chat. But then other than that, it's
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  just I'll kind of wing it. I'm sure Enoch knows this by
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  now. I'm just going to ask questions.
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  My goal was to ask each one of you questions.
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  I have multiple questions lined up and I'm just going to
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  interview kind of each one of you and then whatever happens
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  happens. But I just got questions lined
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  up. Very good.
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  Awesome. So before we actually get
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  started, Mav, do you mind saying a prayer?
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  Leaving us in prayer. I would love to do so.
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  One SEC. Father, we thank you so much for
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  this day. We know that we don't deserve
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  it. We know we haven't earned it.
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  And so we thank you for it. Or thank you so much for all of
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  these gentlemen who are here. Lord, just as was stated, we are
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  all in our own corners. We are all deployed to our own
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  places that you've. Placed us and Lord, we just pray
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  that today, as we all come together, Lord, we pray that you
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  would be honored, You'd be glorified.
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  And we pray that as we speak, Lord, that the Holy Spirit would
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  be the true binder between all of us, and that our unique
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  viewpoints and experiences and understandings, Lord would would
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  mix together. Because of you?
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  Because of that connection that we do have.
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  Or would you pray against the enemy?
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  Pray that any plan, plot would be forwarded, Lord in your name?
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  In the name of Jesus, would you pray that above all, your name
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  would be honored and glorified in any who listen and who watch
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  Lord to be encouraged and be pointed towards you, and not to
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  our own kingdoms of dirt? We we love you.
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  We thank you for these things properly.
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  Jesus, Rod, just so you know, I've been thinking heavily on
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  that whole Mandela thing. I think I've figured out some of
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  it. So we can talk about that later
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  if you want. Definitely, definitely.
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  And you guys, as the spirit leads?
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  Like seriously, if you got this jumping, oh has this.
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  What happened? We lost one.
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  No, I think he was messing, messing with his eyes.
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  Let's say video. At least it's like it says the
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  words the right way this time over there.
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  I'd love to share testimony really quick.
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  Sure. Absolutely.
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  So we some of you are aware of kind of the.
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  The kind of scenes ministry stuff I do.
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  We had this really prominent sidekick here in Alberta.
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  His name was Darren. He ran a company called the
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  Extra Large Medium because he's a big guy and so he's a medium
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  right and ended up getting saved during 2020 and he has just been
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  leading people to Christ left, right and center and.
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  This past Thursday he asked me to join this end times talk he
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  was he was doing. He said yeah just come on by and
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  answer a few questions and sends me the poster and it's like is
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  it the end of days question mark guest speaker Pastor Nathan
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  Zebra and I'm like, dude, on average it takes me about 20
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  hours to prepare message like it's.
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  But yeah, he used his old platform as daring the extra
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  large medium to invite whole bunch of his old clients.
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  We have 50 people there and four people afterwards came up to get
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  saved. Yeah, this was this Thursday.
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  That's a wow. I'm telling you, man, this is
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  there's a this kind of group of people.
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  They're just, they're just ready.
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  They're primed for the spiritual kind of conversation.
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  Yeah, they're searching so. Yeah, I feel like in a lot of
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  ways the rubber is kind of hitting the road for what God's
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  calling me to do. I'll be traveling to Ohio in
• 1:49:32
  September to speak at it's called Beautiful Feats Ministry
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  and they're doing a 12 title boxing match.
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  So the pastor, Rocky de Frank. Him and his wife run a boxing
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  gym with a church attached to it.
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  And recently he had somebody, this is just a testament to real
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  quick. But recently he had a guy come
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  into the church and he said, I've been watching you for a
• 1:49:56
  while and he pulls out a a wad of cash or a check from one
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  pocket and says this is the payoff the church.
• 1:50:04
  He reaches into his other pocket and he says this is the upgrade
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  all the boxing equipment for the kids.
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  And it's just a beautiful testimony because I was out
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  there a couple weeks ago and met him.
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  And I was able to pray and just, you know, kind of connect with
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  them. So I've been asked to come and
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  speak and to do a prayer, a warfare spiritual prayer session
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  in front of, you know, they have thousands of people that come
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  out from the Youngstown, OH area into this.
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  And the whole thing is based on these young kids that are being
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  trained up in boxing so that they can release their
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  frustration. They have some direction.
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  They have a father figure in the area.
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  And so I'm very humbled by that. And I just ask you guys would
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  keep me in prayer. It seems like September, a great
• 1:50:47
  shakening's coming because I'll also be in Harrisburg, my state
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  capitol here in Pennsylvania on the 22nd and 23rd.
• 1:50:55
  We we have people coming out to do Warrior Prayer in in the
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  middle of downtown Harrisburg and that's affiliated through
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  multiple different ministries that I communicate with.
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  So I feel like a lot of humility.
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  A lot of just longing for God to really be the power move that
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  I'm just meek during this whole process.
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  So if you guys could keep me in prayer in the month of
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  September, that would be super critical for me.
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  Yeah, absolutely. 100%. Damn Nate, you look that that
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  whole that camera. That camera is pro dude.
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  Look at that. Looks like a movie.
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  Just a little Canon camera. Yeah, but that looks.
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  Like a Chuck, he has the board in the background where all the
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  red strings should be attached. Yeah, I'm still building mine.
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  Yeah, I'm just gonna do that just for looks.
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  It's not even connecting anything, just so I could look
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  straight. It reminds me of that Charlie
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  for an episode where he's where he's everything in the
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  background. Yeah, yeah.
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  That's some of my actual, like, old research from Mufon too.
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  So it's actually legit, Yeah. Call those.
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  They call them murder Boards, which is?
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  Well, ominous, I don't call it. Murder Report.
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  Thank you for laughter. All right.
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  So are we recording? Chuck?
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  Should I? Yeah, it's already recording, so
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  we're good to go, man, whenever you already.
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  We are good. Everyone's coming in clean about
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  level so. Cool, right?