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The Kenny Report | 4 November · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me.
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  Speaker 3: If you won on the cup today, good luck, because
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  Speaker 3: there was no interest rate cut today and it looks
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  Speaker 3: like there won't be another one for a year or more.
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  Speaker 3: The net zero by twenty fifty debate dominates federal politics,
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  Speaker 3: as labor says it doesn't care about the promise to
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  Speaker 3: cut our electricity prices, and some liberals warn Susan Lee
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  Speaker 3: they'll only support her if she dumps net zero. I'll
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  Speaker 3: cross to Israel to talk to Nova Paris and get
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  Speaker 3: her take on the Middle East peace plan from the
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  Speaker 3: ground and from the US, Kristen Tate will unpack the
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  Speaker 3: worrying prospects as New Yorkers look like electing a socialist
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  Speaker 3: and divisive mayor. Also the best race call of the
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  Speaker 3: day plus Tim Blair, Susi O'Brien and Steven Senna Tiampo.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get into it.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to hand it to Anthony Albanezi and Chris
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  Speaker 3: Bowen and this Green left Labor government.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, have they ever got a deal for us?
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  Speaker 3: They started off by promising us a two hundred and
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  Speaker 3: seventy five dollar cup in our electricity prices, two hundred
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  Speaker 3: and seventy five dollars better off each household each year
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  Speaker 3: starting this year.
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  Speaker 4: What a deal.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you've all seen those lower bills.
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  Speaker 3: Then they promised eight billion dollars year, eight billion of
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  Speaker 3: your dollars for green hydrogen subsidies, the green energy Revolution.
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  Speaker 2: They called it.
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  Speaker 3: I hope you've seen all that green hydrogen pumping out
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  Speaker 3: to power this country towards our net zero future. Bowen
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  Speaker 3: and Albanizi have also spent another five billion dollars of
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  Speaker 3: your money on electricity rebates to try to cover up
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  Speaker 3: the increase in electricity prices.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you can fill that love too.
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  Speaker 3: They're spending money on household batteries, subsidizing wind farms and
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  Speaker 3: solar factories, and there's electric car subsidies and EV chargers,
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  Speaker 3: and they're subsidizing companies.
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  Speaker 2: That need to use a lot of power.
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  Speaker 3: They're giving them billions of your dollars so they can
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  Speaker 3: keep going despite the energy mess.
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  Speaker 2: Companies in South Australia.
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  Speaker 3: Victoria, New South Wales and Queensland labor is throwing money
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  Speaker 3: around like topsy to produce electricity, store electricity, or pay
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  Speaker 3: for electricity. There has never been so much money in electricity.
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  Speaker 3: It's going everywhere, right out of your pocket and into
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  Speaker 3: the electricity grid and into the coffers of the power companies.
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  Speaker 2: But wait, there's more.
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  Speaker 3: There's another aspect to this energy genius, and it was
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  Speaker 3: announced today by the Climate and Energy Minister Chris Bowen.
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  Speaker 2: It's all too good to be true.
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  Speaker 5: And what it means is that energy companies will be
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  Speaker 5: required to offer you, if you have a smart leader,
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  Speaker 5: three hours of free power in the middle of the
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  Speaker 5: day when we have so much solar energy in the system.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's true. It's the great electricity giveaway.
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  Speaker 3: Bowen and Labor reckon, they'll give you free power from
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  Speaker 3: next year in the middle of the day. Can't wait
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  Speaker 3: for next year's budget. I reckon they'll throw in a
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  Speaker 3: set of steak knives too. I mean, listen to this bloke.
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  Speaker 3: He reckons it's all going swimmingly.
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  Speaker 6: There is no coincidence that the quarterly report, which showed
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  Speaker 6: a thirty eight percent reduction in wholesale prices, also shows
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  Speaker 6: the highest renewable penetration for that quarter in Australian history.
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  Speaker 6: Mister speaker, this is a sign of progress.
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  Speaker 3: This bloke cannot speak the truth on power. The drop
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  Speaker 3: is only in wholesale prices. The retail prices, the cost
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  Speaker 3: we all pay.
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  Speaker 2: Is still going up.
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  Speaker 3: And the reason it's going up is precisely the same
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  Speaker 3: reason he's trying to give away free power in.
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  Speaker 2: The middle of the day.
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  Speaker 3: They've subsidized so much renewable energy that we have too
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  Speaker 3: much power when we don't need it, but there's not
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  Speaker 3: enough when we do need it, and you can't store
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  Speaker 3: enough of it, so they're desperately trying to shift demand
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  Speaker 3: and patch up the grid that they've destroyed in pursuit
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  Speaker 3: of net zero.
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  Speaker 2: But listen to.
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  Speaker 3: Their delusion in Parliament today and it's pretty easy to
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  Speaker 3: tell that none of these blokes have ever had to
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  Speaker 3: worry about paying their electricity bills.
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  Speaker 7: How is the alb and Easy Labor government helping to
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  Speaker 7: deliver cheaper, reliable energy for Australians.
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  Speaker 8: Mister Speaker.
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  Speaker 9: When we came to government, we inherited a debarkle of
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  Speaker 9: a situation when it comes to energy.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm pleased to inform the House that one hundred
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  Speaker 7: and ten and twenty two Australian households have now taken
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  Speaker 7: up the Albidez governments cheaper home battery policy up around
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  Speaker 7: two thousand sug yesterday. Australians getting on with the job
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  Speaker 7: of reducing their emissions and their bills now.
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  Speaker 10: The Member for Jagga Jagger understands, even if those opposite
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  Speaker 10: do not, that the transition to cleaner, cheaper, more reliable
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  Speaker 10: energy is a golden economic opportunity for our country and
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  Speaker 10: for its people.
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  Speaker 3: They are living in a fantasy world and actually there
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  Speaker 3: was a moment in Parliament yesterday when there was a
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  Speaker 3: reminder of reality.
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  Speaker 4: It means that for each of us here every sixty
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  Speaker 4: seconds looks like the power prices have gone up too much.
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  Speaker 1: For this place as well, it's gone out.
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  Speaker 11: Where's Bowen?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that glitch was more of a hint about how
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  Speaker 3: unstable and unreliable our grid has become under a design
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  Speaker 3: that Labor pretends is the way of the future.
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  Speaker 2: They reckon.
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  Speaker 3: It's all okay because some of us can have some
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  Speaker 3: free power from solar panels in the middle of the day, except,
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  Speaker 3: of course, when a hailstorm knocks the panels out, like
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  Speaker 3: they did in parts of Queensland this week. Of course, Look,
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  Speaker 3: the energy system is a shambles. There's no free power
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  Speaker 3: Anyone who tries to sell that line is a charlattan.
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  Speaker 2: Any free power you get will be.
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  Speaker 3: Charged up against you by the power companies somewhere else.
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  Speaker 3: We all know that record high prices for electricity are
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  Speaker 3: still going higher, and that record reliability in the electricity
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  Speaker 3: grid is still going lower. The renewables push is a
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  Speaker 3: black hole that labor continues to tip our money into.
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  Speaker 3: And if you want to know how smug and cynical
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  Speaker 3: labor is on this, just have a listen to what
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  Speaker 3: labor MPs themselves say about their promise to cut your bill.
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  Speaker 3: Why did you and your mob promise two hundred and
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  Speaker 3: seventy five dollars off power bills but you have not
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  Speaker 3: been able to deliver it?
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  Speaker 1: Why did you do that?
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  Speaker 10: How long are you guys going to hang on to
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  Speaker 10: that two hundred and seventy five dollar piece.
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  Speaker 2: We're supposed to just forget about that.
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  Speaker 3: They don't care. That was then, this is now. They
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  Speaker 3: spun that nonsense to win government. Now they don't want
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  Speaker 3: to hear about their own two hundred and seventy five
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  Speaker 3: dollars promise. If only the wind turbines spun as consistently
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  Speaker 3: as our politicians.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: The reason labor are so smug about the energy mess
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  Speaker 3: is because because they've had years of a confused and
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  Speaker 3: uncertain coalition refusing to oppose net zero by twenty fifty
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  Speaker 3: and therefore unable to call out the waste, unable to
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  Speaker 3: identify the disastrous public policy failure, and unable to propose
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  Speaker 3: an alternative.
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  Speaker 2: The Liberals need to grasp this nettle.
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  Speaker 3: They need to oppose net zero by twenty fifty and
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  Speaker 3: pledge to fix this national energy crisis.
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  Speaker 2: They need to end the national self.
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  Speaker 3: Harm and reclaim our cheap energy advantage. Susan Lee is
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  Speaker 3: already the coalition leader with the worst polling numbers.
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  Speaker 2: Of all time.
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  Speaker 3: She has nothing to lose by accepting the challenge. She's
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  Speaker 3: got to stop listening to the so called moderates, her
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  Speaker 3: key supporters, people like Andrew Bragg.
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  Speaker 12: We have to be in Paris and we can't be
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  Speaker 12: a prior D eight. I mean, we're better than Iran
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  Speaker 12: Interior and we're a serious country and the Australian people
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  Speaker 12: expect us to take emissions reduction seriously.
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  Speaker 13: They believe in climate change.
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  Speaker 12: We believe in climate change.
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  Speaker 2: Iran and Syria.
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  Speaker 3: What about the US the US is out of Paris,
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  Speaker 3: the largest economy in the world, the most dynamic and
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  Speaker 3: sophisticated economy in the world, is out of Paris. But
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  Speaker 3: Bragg doesn't mention the US. He mentions Iran and Syria,
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  Speaker 3: and he wants US to take emissions reductions. Seriously, what
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  Speaker 3: like China, like India, perhaps like Indonesia? Are these countries
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  Speaker 3: cutting emissions? Are they signed up to net zero by
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  Speaker 3: twenty fifty?
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  Speaker 2: Of course not. This stuff is literally nutty. It's a
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  Speaker 2: plan to wreck our economy for no reason.
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  Speaker 3: It won't help the planet because global emissions are still
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  Speaker 3: rising dramatically. So it's pain for us, but no game,
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  Speaker 3: except I guess it would make life easier for some
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  Speaker 3: of these liberals. At dinner parties with Tills, another senator
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  Speaker 3: had some better advice for her leader.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, confidence in the leader.
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  Speaker 11: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 14: The most important thing now, though, is that the leader
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  Speaker 14: takes a position on energy policy and does so with
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  Speaker 14: a matter of urgency, because we cannot allow this conversation
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  Speaker 14: to continue. There is so much more agreement in our
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  Speaker 14: party room than there is division.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Lee will get support if she does what she
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  Speaker 3: needs to do and does it quickly. The Nationals have
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  Speaker 3: led the way on this, but even they had to
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  Speaker 3: be dragged there kicking and screaming by Barnaby Joyce with
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  Speaker 3: his Private Member's bill against net zero, and he's moved
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  Speaker 3: to abandon the party. The choice for Susan Lee is
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  Speaker 3: much easier, and it's a sure bet it's what the
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  Speaker 3: country needs. There is no one with any understanding of
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  Speaker 3: economics or engineering who actually believes that Australia can get
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  Speaker 3: to net zero by twenty fifty. Anyway, it's actually impossible
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  Speaker 3: with the current technology, just ask the International Energy Agency.
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  Speaker 3: So why enslave yourself to a target that not even
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  Speaker 3: labor will ever meet, no matter how much pain they
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  Speaker 3: inflict on us. The sensible center of this country is
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  Speaker 3: crying out for someone to take up the fight on energy,
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  Speaker 3: take up the fight on government waste, and take up
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  Speaker 3: the fight on out of control immigration numbers. Newspot today
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  Speaker 3: showed that almost two thirds of Australians want our immigration
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  Speaker 3: intake reduced, and that's hardly surprising.
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  Speaker 2: Yet as soon as you talk about.
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  Speaker 3: Immigration, too many liberals, these moderate liberals, immediately start apologizing
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  Speaker 3: about xenophobia or intolerance. This is self defeating nonsense. It's
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  Speaker 3: got nothing to do with the debate. We have a
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  Speaker 3: housing crisis, we have an energy crisis. We have hospital
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  Speaker 3: ramping crises in some states, we have crime crises in
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  Speaker 3: other states. And given we've had record immigration, we need
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  Speaker 3: to pull back and catch our breath as a nation.
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  Speaker 3: The opportunity for the coalition is obvious. Set up hard
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  Speaker 3: and clear positions on energy and immigration and government waste,
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  Speaker 3: hold labor to account, speak for the sensible center. Outline
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  Speaker 3: the approach that will be best for our nation, not
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  Speaker 3: policies to please the United Nations. Virtue signalers advocate policies
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  Speaker 3: that will be best for Australia. You know the people
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  Speaker 3: you represent work hard at that and politically you will
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  Speaker 3: reap the rewards as Labour's green chickens come home to roost.
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  Speaker 2: Now you might have heard about.
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  Speaker 3: Some protesters in Sydney today. I'm not going to show
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  Speaker 3: them or broadcast the lies and hate that they spread.
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  Speaker 3: Why would I provide a platform for their prejudice and
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  Speaker 3: deceit when that's precisely the reason they stage these putrid protests.
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  Speaker 3: At least ten of them were arrested. That's a good thing,
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  Speaker 3: although sadly we can expect their punishments to be far
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  Speaker 3: too lenient. So let me instead take some of the
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  Speaker 3: time I would have spent on their protest to spook
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  Speaker 3: Australia's defense industry. This is a fascinating and valuable sector
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  Speaker 3: of the economy that provides well paid, highly technical jobs
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  Speaker 3: in a variety of fields, and it produces equipment that
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  Speaker 3: keeps US safe.
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  Speaker 2: Without the very.
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  Speaker 3: Best defense equipment, then peace, democracy and prosperity would all
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  Speaker 3: vanish at the hands of rogue states run by dictators, fanatics,
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  Speaker 3: and terrorist outfits. And while I'm on that, thank goodness
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  Speaker 3: too for Israel, the only pluralistic democracy in the Middle East,
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  Speaker 3: a country that's been forced to defend itself against invaders
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  Speaker 3: time and again over the past eight decades, and which
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  Speaker 3: is only able to do that because of the sophistication
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  Speaker 3: of its military and the support of its population who
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  Speaker 3: do compulsory service in their armed services.
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  Speaker 2: Defense matters. We all wish we didn't need.
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  Speaker 3: It, but anyone with a functioning neuron knows it's an
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  Speaker 3: absolute must. Let's go to Canberra now and catch up
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  Speaker 3: with National's deputy leader, Kevin Hogan. Kevin, thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 3: First up, just briefly on interest rates, you'd be worried
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  Speaker 3: that we've seen the end of this cycle. The Reserve
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  Speaker 3: Bank governor today is suggesting there may not be any
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  Speaker 3: more cuts.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, very disturbing, Chris. As we know, the average mortgage
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  Speaker 15: costs for the average family you've gone up eighteen hundred
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  Speaker 15: dollars because interest rates have gone up twelve times under labor.
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  Speaker 15: So we all thought were hoping that, you know, inflation
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  Speaker 15: of Peatman was going down, but the figures last week,
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  Speaker 15: what the Reserve banks saying is that now they think
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  Speaker 15: the inflation rate is going up over the next twelve months.
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  Speaker 15: So certainly no interest rate decrease is now on the
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  Speaker 15: foreseeable future, and maybe unfortunate interest rate increase all down
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  Speaker 15: to government mismanagement and government spending.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get back onto energy. There's no doubt that energy.
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  Speaker 3: Price increases are helping to fuel the inflation that's kept
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  Speaker 3: interest rates where they are.
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  Speaker 2: Yet in the middle of this, with prices still rising.
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  Speaker 3: Chris bowing out today advertising free electricity, what's going on here?
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  Speaker 15: Well, don't we all believe this because you know, as
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  Speaker 15: you had earlier in your show, the two hundred and
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  Speaker 15: seventy five dollars power cut price, how we're going to
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  Speaker 15: deliver which we're now supposed to forget, they said. So
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  Speaker 15: you know some companies do this already, Chris. They give
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  Speaker 15: you like two or three hours in the middle of
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  Speaker 15: the day for free because no one's using it and
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  Speaker 15: no one's time to use it. Those companies usually then
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  Speaker 15: have a higher spike at night when you are using
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  Speaker 15: electricity when you do need to turn the lights on
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  Speaker 15: because it's actually dark and you need to use more
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  Speaker 15: electricity in your home in your house, and they have
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  Speaker 15: pikes and peaks and because of this, So this is
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  Speaker 15: just another sham job by this labor government. We don't
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  Speaker 15: believe what they say about energy because of their history
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  Speaker 15: in this area.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the energy retailers are already arcing up against it,
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  Speaker 3: and obviously, as you say, the power costs will be
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  Speaker 3: retrieved elsewhere. But it also goes to the instability of
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  Speaker 3: the system, doesn't It isn't there a problem that during
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  Speaker 3: the day now there's so much solar electricity being fed
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  Speaker 3: into the system and it actually destabilizes the grid at
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  Speaker 3: some time. So they're actually the government's created this situation
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  Speaker 3: where you need to try and suck some of that
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  Speaker 3: energy out of the system in the middle.
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  Speaker 15: Of the day, Chris, as you know when you say
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  Speaker 15: on this show regularly, where Bowen's taking our energy grid
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  Speaker 15: is to a very dangerous place. So yes, we're going
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  Speaker 15: to have surplus power in the middle of the day
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  Speaker 15: when no one's home and the sunshine and the wind
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  Speaker 15: might be blowing. But he's taking renewables to such a
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  Speaker 15: level of level of the grid that we will become
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  Speaker 15: unstable when the wind isn't blowing, the sun isn't shining
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  Speaker 15: at night, and this heavy y usage here.
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  Speaker 13: No other country is aiming.
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  Speaker 15: For renewables of the level that this government is unless
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  Speaker 15: they had pumped hydro like a Norway, which is very unusual,
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  Speaker 15: which we don't have.
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  Speaker 13: So we know the problems here. Was very good.
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  Speaker 15: We had a National Party Room meeting on Sunday, Chris,
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  Speaker 15: after we got the Page Research Institute report on net zero.
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  Speaker 15: We can see that this is going to cost nine
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  Speaker 15: trillion dollars and we know.
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  Speaker 3: Where you're at with it, and you know I agree
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  Speaker 3: with that, but the Liberals have to come on board.
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  Speaker 2: Can they do that next week?
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  Speaker 3: There's talk that they might be able to actually come
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  Speaker 3: and agree on that. Getting rid of net zero by
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  Speaker 3: next week. Is that sort of time frame you need
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  Speaker 3: as a coalition to get moving to start to turn
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  Speaker 3: this debate.
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  Speaker 13: Well, look, I think it would be.
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  Speaker 15: You know, obviously, I think it's a good challenge that
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  Speaker 15: we can take up to the government.
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  Speaker 13: But look, you know, as you know, Chris, we're going
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  Speaker 13: to be very respectful.
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  Speaker 15: They were very respectful of us as we underwent our
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  Speaker 15: independent review into this, and we will be respectful of them.
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  Speaker 15: But look, Chris, I think this is the issue. When
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  Speaker 15: you talk about net zero, you're not just talking about energy, which.
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  Speaker 13: We are right now. Labor looking to move into the.
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  Speaker 15: Travel sector, the transport sector with this, they're looking to
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  Speaker 15: move into agriculture with this, because if we meet their
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  Speaker 15: emission reduction targets, which are above most countries in the world.
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  Speaker 15: Mind you, we're going to have to move into more
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  Speaker 15: sectors and energy that are going to look at damage
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  Speaker 15: to our farming sector and our great damage to our
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  Speaker 15: transport sector.
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  Speaker 13: So important issue. We're giving them space. We hope we
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  Speaker 13: have common ground.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us again, Kevin, appreciate it. Nationals Deputy
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  Speaker 3: Leader Kevin Hogan. There, let's get back to some more
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  Speaker 3: insight onto the interest rates decision today. As I mentioned before,
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  Speaker 3: the Reserve Bank today left interest rates on hold. That's
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  Speaker 3: at three point six percent for the cash rate. I
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  Speaker 3: want to go to Ggi Foster, Professor of economics.
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  Speaker 2: At the University of New South Wales. Good to talk
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  Speaker 2: to you again, gg.
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  Speaker 3: This was expected, this move to keep interest rates on hold.
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  Speaker 3: I guess what might not have been expected by so
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  Speaker 3: many people is the governor suggesting that could be there
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  Speaker 3: might not be any more right cuts in this cycle.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, the next move could be up. What are
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  Speaker 3: your thoughts?
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  Speaker 16: Yeah, that's right, and I don't know if they'll actually
• 19:08
  Speaker 16: be going up, certainly not before the end of the year,
• 19:11
  Speaker 16: because I don't think Michelle Bullock would want to be
• 19:13
  Speaker 16: a grinch that stole Christmas. But I do think that
• 19:17
  Speaker 16: saying on par on the same level for at least
• 19:20
  Speaker 16: the next couple of calls is likely. Basically because there
• 19:23
  Speaker 16: are two different objectives that the RBA is trying to
• 19:26
  Speaker 16: balance here, right, We're trying at the same time that
• 19:29
  Speaker 16: inflation is going up to also counter some unemployments and
• 19:34
  Speaker 16: labor force data that would generally speaking encourage you to
• 19:38
  Speaker 16: lower rates, and so they're kind of caught you in
• 19:41
  Speaker 16: a difficult position here, and I keep thinking that as
• 19:44
  Speaker 16: we continue to move beyond the COVID era, we're going
• 19:47
  Speaker 16: to start seeing the entrance of new young labor force
• 19:50
  Speaker 16: cohorts who are not as able, not as productive, not
• 19:55
  Speaker 16: as skilled, not as socially skilled as the previous cohorts.
• 19:59
  Speaker 16: And that's going to be bad for productivity, and it's
• 20:01
  Speaker 16: going to be bad for employers who are looking for
• 20:03
  Speaker 16: skilled workers. So I think that kind of feeding into
• 20:07
  Speaker 16: the labor market will continue over the next few years,
• 20:10
  Speaker 16: and that is going to continue to weaken our labor data, productivity,
• 20:14
  Speaker 16: and things like employers seeking skilled workers.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's a worrying problem. Yeah, that's a worrying bit.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Of analysis because productivity is really where we need to lift.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: I just want to go first to some comments from
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Michelle Bullock today which were really addressed to mortgage holders,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: people who really wanted another cut to their interest rates.
• 20:31
  Speaker 13: Have a look.
• 20:33
  Speaker 17: I would say, though, that we've already had three interstrate cuts.
• 20:36
  Speaker 17: I know that mortgage holders always want more, but it's
• 20:39
  Speaker 17: also important that we make sure that we keep inflation
• 20:42
  Speaker 17: under control because ultimately that's also what impacts people's within standards.
• 20:46
  Speaker 17: So it's really important.
• 20:47
  Speaker 18: We get that right too.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Yes, So the big bogey here, the big bogey man
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: is inflation. To what extent is our national energy crisis
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: driving inflation?
• 20:59
  Speaker 11: Well, we know that the.
• 21:00
  Speaker 16: Recent inflation data came through after the electricity rebates from
• 21:05
  Speaker 16: the government started to expire, so that was again baked in.
• 21:08
  Speaker 16: But even with that, we kind of exceeded the mark
• 21:11
  Speaker 16: of the predicted rise. So you know, definitely it has
• 21:15
  Speaker 16: been a major factor. And I've set on your show before, Chris,
• 21:18
  Speaker 16: and I still believe that the government's actions are really
• 21:21
  Speaker 16: clouding the signals that people like Michelle Bullock are trying
• 21:24
  Speaker 16: to read in order to properly steer our markets. And
• 21:28
  Speaker 16: that's not helpful. Even this free energy business, that's interference
• 21:32
  Speaker 16: in a market, and it's not helpful. It is basically
• 21:35
  Speaker 16: constraining people's choices, saying, oh, you know, if you just
• 21:38
  Speaker 16: run your dishwasher at noon instead of overnight like most
• 21:41
  Speaker 16: families do, you know, you'll get a freebe from the government.
• 21:45
  Speaker 16: It's encouraging dependency on government, and it's constricting people's free
• 21:49
  Speaker 16: choice in what should be as free a market as
• 21:52
  Speaker 16: we can get. So I don't like it, and I
• 21:54
  Speaker 16: think it's it is something where there's this bait and
• 21:57
  Speaker 16: switch that has happened. Oh, we'll give you some free energy.
• 22:00
  Speaker 16: But on the other hand, you know, maybe that's going
• 22:03
  Speaker 16: to expire after a while, these rebates that we've given you,
• 22:06
  Speaker 16: and therefore you're going to end up having to pay
• 22:07
  Speaker 16: down the track anyway. It's very despairing. I mean, I
• 22:11
  Speaker 16: despair about the attitude of some of our politicians.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they don't seem to think much beyond the
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: next poll.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Juji. I appreciate. Gigi Foster there
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: from the University of New South Wales.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: It's going to get to a break. On the other side,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: we'll cross to Israel. I'll catch up with Nova Paris there.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Get her take from the ground on the Middle East
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: piece plan.
• 22:36
  Speaker 19: Now.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: In Federal Parliament today, question time went right across the
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Melbourne Cup. They didn't finish early for the Cup or
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: anything un Australian really wasn't it. But just before question time,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: the former Nationals leader Michael McCormick gabe what's now become
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: his traditional faux Melbourne.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Cup call have a look drama.
• 22:56
  Speaker 9: Before the start of the twenty twenty five Melbourne cuppas.
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: The anti fun tails and the Greens are refusing to
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: end the barriers. The talkies are carrying anti racing placards.
• 23:07
  Speaker 9: Who would believe that the gates crashed back and the
• 23:11
  Speaker 9: races on Canning has gone hard and fast early, Maybe
• 23:15
  Speaker 9: a bit hasty, balerrat and half of my building expectations,
• 23:18
  Speaker 9: but nothing else. McMahon charging more and more, all wind,
• 23:23
  Speaker 9: no power, lowing hard, but no energy. He's chances of winning.
• 23:27
  Speaker 11: I'm net zero.
• 23:28
  Speaker 9: Senator Thorpe, bunny down the outside, question time fast approaching it.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Here comes the speaker.
• 23:35
  Speaker 13: Everyone's fire.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Can he make it?
• 23:37
  Speaker 19: Back to back?
• 23:38
  Speaker 13: Speaker?
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Question time?
• 23:40
  Speaker 13: Speaker, The place is on fire.
• 23:42
  Speaker 11: Far a finish speaker.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: It's actually very very good. Let me bring in Tim Blair,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: who joins us from Western Victoria. Good to talk to you, Tim.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what there's some good lines in there.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: But what about Senator Thorpe burning down the art side.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: A little bit hasty? Also going to mention when you
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: when you're going for something like that, you've really got
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: to sell it. If if you're a little bit hesitant,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: if you don't believe in your material, it dies. And
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: he as we've just seen, gave it everything good even
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I hope the tradition continues. I think it's quite chumming.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is actually spot on as you say. He
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: gets into it and he absolutely nails it. Senator Thorpe
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: burning down her outside. Of course you'll remember she threatened
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: to burn down the Parliament House. Let's have a look
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: at the real Melbourne Cup that was run down south
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: there today. It was running at Flemington today.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Have a look twenty hundred meters to go.
• 24:44
  Speaker 20: God eat tennis shows for islands, getting to got heat
• 24:50
  Speaker 20: shows with half your challengeing got.
• 24:52
  Speaker 9: The clock, towns prep stars.
• 24:58
  Speaker 13: Yours is coming clean.
• 25:06
  Speaker 20: Half yards second goody two service start from reverent style
• 25:11
  Speaker 20: of tyrone sat.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Behind those half yours the win. I would won half
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: of that, Tim.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: It was actually I'm not I'm not a big horse
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: racing fan, but it was a great race to run
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: with that, you know, with that long odds horse right
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: out the front.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Gave it everything and then they mowed it down.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: And of course the win with the winning jockey Jamie Mellum,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: the second female jockey to win the Cup.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: A great run there coming down the final straight.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I really like christ we've now got with the Big
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Dance at Rambick on the same day. We've got this
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: great combination of the moment Cups largely in the international event.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Now it's horse from all around the world and that's terrific,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: you know. But it meant that there was a big
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: gap on the on the turf calendar for a major
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: local event where we had all the champion local horses,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: all the local cup winners from regional Australias. So and
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: that's what we've got with the Big Dance. So I
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: think it's a great combination. That's great that they're happening
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: on the same day. I don't think it erases or
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: diminishes either event I think they're complimentary and yeah, I
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: think it makes for a great First Tuesday November every
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: single year.
• 26:14
  Speaker 13: So yeah, yeah, good, yeah.
• 26:16
  Speaker 19: I did. Look.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: I was talking to someone yesterday about how many Australian
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: the horses are in the Melbourne Cup and at that
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: stage I think we had one.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know whether, but so it certainly has changed.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I just like to get the day off one.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Day on a Cup day and go and check some
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: of this stuff out. Let's just before we move on though,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: have a little listener to Jamie Mellon, the second woman
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: to win the Cup as a jockey, the first to
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: get the core Field Cup Melbourne Cup double.
• 26:42
  Speaker 19: Have a look, Oh my god, this is what we
• 26:46
  Speaker 19: dream of. This is what we dream of when we
• 26:49
  Speaker 19: first got our jockey license. You want to ride in
• 26:51
  Speaker 19: the Melbourne Cup, Let alone win the Melbourne Cup.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Good stuff.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Anyway, talking about horsepower is a great segue to your
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: column to take Tim and you went along to the
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: electric vehicle show that just to cast your your cynical
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: eye over it.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: What did you think of the whole event?
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Shockingly didn't didn't actually intend that pun, but shocking. I
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: didn't find it all that thrilling. Chris. Now, I used
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: to go as a lot of Austrands, you know, I
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: used to go every year to the big Melbourne and
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Sydney motor shows. They were tremendous events. But even you know,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: normal car shows have diminished over the years. They used
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: to be spectacular affairs. Now if you see a big
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: lineup around the block, they're not lining up to see
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: the new Ford or Holden because there aren't there. They're
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: lining up to see a new phone. So there was
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: a mobile phone show at the Sydney. You can bet
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: that would get the big numbers. But this TV show was.
• 27:49
  Speaker 13: It was small.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: It was a bit sort of shabby. There weren't a
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: great deal of a great number of manufacturers represented. There
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: weren't a huge amount of reps on board to explain
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: things or talk about or to write their vehicles. It
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: was just a little bit, a little bit on the
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: small and puny side. But it still cost you forty
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: bucks to get in, so in that way it kind
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: of fit the whole ev theme. A lot of money,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: not a lot of bang.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Yes, look you did a video for the Daily Telegraph
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: and you managed to find a couple of interesting items
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: to draw our attention.
• 28:19
  Speaker 13: I love this bit.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: If you're a Chinese vehicle manufacturer, one issue of great
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: concern allegations of spy wear. Are you somehow hiding spy
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: technology in your Chinese vehicle? Well, the way they get
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: around this is by being very clever and not giving
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: any hints about spying or anything spy related.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: The bottom, Yes, the old double O seven well spotted.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: You'll be targeted by the Chinese spy agencies.
• 28:53
  Speaker 13: Now, just your final.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Thoughts on this week and run some pictures over the
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: top of it. You didn't manage to find real Lamborghini there.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: What was that doing then?
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: It was to promote an entirely unrelated what they call
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: a vinyl wrap firm where they've decorated this, this particular Lamborghini,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: This beautiful V twelve inch of the Way and Tili
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: petwere powder rap companies. It's getting a paint job without
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: actually getting new paint. But what it was doing at
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: a n TV show we couldn't find out. There wasn't
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: there anyone there who could fully explain it. But we
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: did offer me and my mate Simon from Memgu Australia,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: great YouTube channel. We did offer a thousand dollars to
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the people who were at the stand to fire the
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: thing up and just reve it a little bit, just
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: some sonic excitement, and unfortunately, tragically and ironically, the Lamborghini
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: had a flat battery.
• 29:46
  Speaker 13: At the EV show.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Lovely stuff. Thanks for joining us, Tim, Tim Blair that
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: you can read him in the Daily Telegraph and check
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: out that video and we'll have.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Him back on the program on Thursday.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: I'm going to catch up with Novaperis in Israel in
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: just a moment, but first I want to bring up
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: to date with the latest news, and that is Hamas
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: returning the remains of an Israeli American hostage.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: In its latest handover. He is the latest coverage of
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: that from Fox News.
• 30:09
  Speaker 21: Hamas returning the remains of three more Israeli hostages overnight,
• 30:13
  Speaker 21: among them Captain Omer Nutra, an Israeli American who served
• 30:17
  Speaker 21: with the IDF on October seventh. The remains of eight others,
• 30:20
  Speaker 21: including one American citizen, have not yet been returned Kula.
• 30:26
  Speaker 21: Over the weekend, thousands of people rallied across Israel, calling
• 30:29
  Speaker 21: for Hamas to release the remaining bodies and complete Phase
• 30:32
  Speaker 21: one of the Seasfire, but Hamas claims the widespread devastation
• 30:35
  Speaker 21: in Gaza is complicating the recovery efforts.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: So let's bring in Nova Paris, who's in Israel for
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: the International Women's Leaders Conference.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Great to catch up with you again, Neiva, thanks for
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: joining us.
• 30:48
  Speaker 11: You're very welcome.
• 30:50
  Speaker 22: Chris, it's good to do well.
• 30:51
  Speaker 13: See you again.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: The first thing I want to get a sense from
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: you about is is the sense of the Israeli population.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: I supper, I was there during the war, so were you?
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: You were there at the height of the war.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Really when Israel was under attack from Iran, there was
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: such a heavy focus on getting the hostages back. Of course,
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: all the living hostages are back now, still trying to
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: get some of the remains back. Is there a sense
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: that the peace plan is there to hold or is
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: there a concern that hostilities are going to open up
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: again soon enough?
• 31:26
  Speaker 22: Yeah? I you know, like having I've been here almost
• 31:31
  Speaker 22: two weeks now. Chris and I spent the first couple
• 31:35
  Speaker 22: of days in Tel Aviv, and before we kicked off
• 31:38
  Speaker 22: in HiFER, and you know, I was there by myself,
• 31:42
  Speaker 22: and I sat on the beach and just watched the Israelis.
• 31:47
  Speaker 20: You know they and you and I both know this.
• 31:49
  Speaker 11: They have a zestful life.
• 31:52
  Speaker 22: They have a love of life. And you know, you
• 31:54
  Speaker 22: can't help but think how many of these young Israelis
• 31:57
  Speaker 22: who are out there enjoying life, who have been in
• 32:01
  Speaker 22: Gaza fighting against the evil of her mass and terrorists
• 32:05
  Speaker 22: and up and Lebanon of course as well. And I
• 32:09
  Speaker 22: feel a sense of you know, it's it's relief, it's
• 32:14
  Speaker 22: it's joy. But even talking to some taxi drivers, when
• 32:19
  Speaker 22: I get an a taxi, I often just ask the question,
• 32:21
  Speaker 22: may you know, I say, I'm from I'm from Australia,
• 32:24
  Speaker 22: and how do you feel? They said, yeah, we feel good.
• 32:26
  Speaker 22: You know, it's quiet for the moment, and so it's
• 32:30
  Speaker 22: not like you can take your foot off the accelerator,
• 32:33
  Speaker 22: if that's an antidote to.
• 32:35
  Speaker 11: Sort of use.
• 32:36
  Speaker 22: But you know, it's since I've been here in the
• 32:40
  Speaker 22: you know, twelve days, there's been no sirens. Iselle hasn't
• 32:44
  Speaker 22: been under attack by by any other of the other
• 32:47
  Speaker 22: countries who wants to attack her.
• 32:49
  Speaker 11: But it's it's a sense of, I.
• 32:51
  Speaker 22: Guess, a relief and you know that that hopefully there
• 32:56
  Speaker 22: is peace and and people want peace. You know, it's
• 32:59
  Speaker 22: in credible, you know, you and I know that. We
• 33:02
  Speaker 22: walk around Israel and you know, yesterday I was walking
• 33:06
  Speaker 22: down in Jerusalem. You have Muslim women and you're at
• 33:09
  Speaker 22: the Western Wall, and then you hear the mosque the
• 33:12
  Speaker 22: call to prayer, and then you have the Christians walking around.
• 33:16
  Speaker 22: It's an unbelievable city, one of inclusion.
• 33:20
  Speaker 19: It's not an.
• 33:21
  Speaker 22: Apartheid state, it's an inclusive state. And it's incredible, and
• 33:25
  Speaker 22: we just continue to pray for peace and hopefully you know,
• 33:30
  Speaker 22: you know, the IDF, you know, with the help you know,
• 33:35
  Speaker 22: of America and Trump can just finish the terrace off
• 33:40
  Speaker 22: because once they're still there, they're still there. They have
• 33:43
  Speaker 22: to want peace.
• 33:44
  Speaker 11: The other other them never.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Will be the other side of this over. I agree
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: with everything you say.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: We've just got the international community and everybody has to
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: work to make sure the peace holds. But the other
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: thing is there needs to be a reckoning about the
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: lies of misinformation that have been told.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: All those people are including in the media, including in.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Australia and of course around the world, who are accusing
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: of Israel of war crimes, who are accusing them of genocide,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: who were saying that people were being starved to death
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: in Gaza, they've all fallen silent now now that the
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: war is finished. What's happened to that human Now. I'm
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: not trying to pretend that life is not very difficult
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: for Gazans now, but the point is that if there'd
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: been mass starvations and mass killings, we would see.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: All of that being reported.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Now. The lies need to be exposed to stop this
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: sort of campaign happening again.
• 34:36
  Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely, And.
• 34:37
  Speaker 22: That is the frustrating thing for myself. You know, when
• 34:42
  Speaker 22: you see you know, Israel is a third of the
• 34:44
  Speaker 22: size of Tasmania. You've got Gaza, which is smaller than
• 34:48
  Speaker 22: the Act. And yes, there are two million civilians. And
• 34:52
  Speaker 22: you know if there was a genocide, if there was,
• 34:57
  Speaker 22: you know, Israel wanting to totally abolished Gars, they would
• 35:01
  Speaker 22: have done it by October fourteenth, one week after October.
• 35:06
  Speaker 11: You know, seven, twenty twenty three.
• 35:09
  Speaker 22: Their military capacity is unbelievable and what they're doing is
• 35:14
  Speaker 22: surgical war. They warn its citizens to.
• 35:17
  Speaker 11: Move they you know, you hear when you speak to
• 35:21
  Speaker 11: people in the IDF they'll fire a fake bomb.
• 35:24
  Speaker 22: It's like, okay, knocking on the door, get out, We're
• 35:27
  Speaker 22: actually going to go in there because there's terrors there
• 35:30
  Speaker 22: and people don't understand. It is surgical war. And if
• 35:33
  Speaker 22: you look at you know there are really and truly
• 35:36
  Speaker 22: there's no winners in war until the other side laid
• 35:40
  Speaker 22: down their weapons and surrender, because there have been significant
• 35:44
  Speaker 22: amount of IDF soldiers who have gone in you know,
• 35:48
  Speaker 22: over a thousand that have lost their lives, wanting to
• 35:50
  Speaker 22: dismantle terrorism for the betterment of Israel, her people and
• 35:55
  Speaker 22: it's citizens and the two million Arab Israelis who live
• 35:58
  Speaker 22: in Israel.
• 35:59
  Speaker 11: So you know, there is no apartheid.
• 36:03
  Speaker 22: Here in Israel, there is no genocide. They're conducting surgical
• 36:07
  Speaker 22: war in a highly dense place in Gaza, and they
• 36:11
  Speaker 22: want to dismantle terrorism because if you don't, it'll never
• 36:15
  Speaker 22: go away and you'll never ever have peace. It is
• 36:18
  Speaker 22: so sad when you actually, actually you should just say
• 36:21
  Speaker 22: Nelson Mandela's granddaughters where he had just recently and they
• 36:25
  Speaker 22: actually went into Gaza and actually saw all the A
• 36:28
  Speaker 22: trucks that were sitting there.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I read about it.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, it's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 16: It really truly is.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks so much for joining us, Nova, I really appreciate it.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Nova peris there in Israel, a great Australian and a
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: great advocate for Israel in this terrible war over the.
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  Speaker 2: Last two years.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: We're going to get to a break on the other
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: side of crossing the Christian tade. In the US, there's
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: New York City looks like electing a socialist and very
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: divisive mayor. Just some background before we go to Christen
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Tate in the US, because New York residents are going
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: to head to the polls later today outsid to cast
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: their vote in the city's mayoral elections. Socialist Democrat Zorn
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Mamdani is the front runner. Here's a little profile piece
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: thanks to France twenty four.
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  Speaker 8: The thirty four year old was born in Uganda of
• 37:20
  Speaker 8: Indian origin and naturalized in America less than ten years ago.
• 37:26
  Speaker 8: He first made a name for himself by trying his
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: hand at rap and kept this offbeat style for politics
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: to hammer home his key proposals free childcare for all,
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: free bus travel, and above all taxing the richest. He
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: quickly owns the nickname and he Trump. Donald Trump is
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: threatening to cut federal funding for New York if he
• 37:49
  Speaker 8: is elected. A devout Muslim and staunch supporter of Palestine,
• 37:53
  Speaker 8: Mamdani has been criticized for not condemning hammer strongly enough.
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  Speaker 3: Much to be worried about his socialist agenda, promised to
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: take on the president, and he's pro Palestinian, anti Israel stance.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: I put to Kristen Tite, there must be a lot
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: of concern that this blog is going to ruin the
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: most important city in the United States.
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  Speaker 23: Yeah, he is expected to win this race, and the
• 38:18
  Speaker 23: fact that a socialist, anti American radical is about to
• 38:22
  Speaker 23: be elected the mayor of our largest and most important
• 38:26
  Speaker 23: city tells you that there's a mandate for this kind
• 38:29
  Speaker 23: of radicalism on the left. This kind of candidate speaks
• 38:33
  Speaker 23: to the soul of the Democrat Party of today. The
• 38:37
  Speaker 23: radical left has not been defeated despite President Trump's fantastic
• 38:41
  Speaker 23: and wonderful victory last year.
• 38:44
  Speaker 11: This is a radical person. He is anti police.
• 38:48
  Speaker 23: He has called the New York Police Department racist, anti queer,
• 38:52
  Speaker 23: a major threat to public safety.
• 38:54
  Speaker 11: Keep in mind, Chris, right now, the New York Police
• 38:58
  Speaker 11: Department's ranks are at historically low levels. The morale is
• 39:01
  Speaker 11: solo there right now.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Crime is up.
• 39:04
  Speaker 23: Little old ladies are walking down the street and get
• 39:06
  Speaker 23: targeted with random crimes.
• 39:08
  Speaker 11: And this guy wants to completely gut the police department.
• 39:12
  Speaker 23: He wants free buses for everyone that will cost about
• 39:15
  Speaker 23: a billion dollars a year. He wants city run grocery stores.
• 39:18
  Speaker 23: What could go wrong with city run grocery stores. He
• 39:22
  Speaker 23: wants to legalize prostitution, which would completely destroy the quality
• 39:27
  Speaker 23: of life or whatever's left of it in New York City.
• 39:29
  Speaker 11: So this mom Dahmi would almost certainly destroy.
• 39:33
  Speaker 23: New York City and turn it into another burned out,
• 39:36
  Speaker 23: once great city like Detroit.
• 39:38
  Speaker 11: And it would be devastating to the United States. To
• 39:40
  Speaker 11: see New York City go in that direction, it is
• 39:43
  Speaker 11: so worrying.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Now there's all these things you outline, and of course
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: the economics behind that, this big social agenda, the massive
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: spending and what that would do to the city's economy.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: But then there's also the social cohesion angle.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: We've had two years of horrible divisions in society in
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: the US as well as the rest of the Western
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: world on the back of the Gayza.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: War, and where people have been anti Semitic.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: With that, I've been attacking Israel with have been arguing
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: a pro Palestinian case, which has been anti West as
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: well as anti Israel. He's been at the forefront of that.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: He hasn't been a soothing influence. He's been on the
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: streets ramping up the ritrick.
• 40:27
  Speaker 11: Of course he has.
• 40:27
  Speaker 23: And every time nine to eleven comes up, which happened
• 40:30
  Speaker 23: in New York City where thousands of Americans died, instead
• 40:34
  Speaker 23: of expressing sadness about that tragic event and all of
• 40:38
  Speaker 23: the great Americans who lost their lives due to radical Islam,
• 40:43
  Speaker 23: instead he uses the opportunity to make Muslims the victim
• 40:47
  Speaker 23: of that. He is just so anti American but this
• 40:51
  Speaker 23: is kind of the flavor of the Democrat Party of today.
• 40:54
  Speaker 23: His rise tells you everything you need to know about
• 40:57
  Speaker 23: the Democrats and what we can expect to see in
• 41:00
  Speaker 23: candidates next year in the midterm and then two years
• 41:02
  Speaker 23: after that in the Democrat primary for the twenty twenty
• 41:05
  Speaker 23: eight presidential election.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just so reckless, isn't it.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Let's have a look at what Donald Trump has had
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: to say about this, and he's sixty minutes interview.
• 41:14
  Speaker 11: Zorhan Mundami thirty four year old Democratic socialist.
• 41:17
  Speaker 24: He's the communist, not socialist communist.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: He's far he's far.
• 41:20
  Speaker 16: Worse than a session.
• 41:21
  Speaker 18: Some people have compared him to a left wing version
• 41:24
  Speaker 18: of you, charismatic breaking the old rules.
• 41:26
  Speaker 13: What do you think about that?
• 41:28
  Speaker 24: Well, I think I'm a much better looking person than him.
• 41:30
  Speaker 11: Right, Well, what if Mandami becomes mayor?
• 41:32
  Speaker 24: It's going to be hard for me as the president
• 41:35
  Speaker 24: to give a lot of money to New York because
• 41:39
  Speaker 24: if you have a communist running New York, all you're
• 41:42
  Speaker 24: doing is wasting the money you're sending there. So I
• 41:45
  Speaker 24: don't know that he's one, and I'm not a fan
• 41:47
  Speaker 24: of Cuomo one way or the other.
• 41:49
  Speaker 13: But if it's going to be.
• 41:49
  Speaker 24: Between a bad Democrat and a communist, I'm going to
• 41:54
  Speaker 24: pick the bad Democrat all the time, to be honest
• 41:56
  Speaker 24: with you.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a complicated contest, and of course not just
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Democrat versus Republican, because the former Democrat Governor Andrew Cuomo,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: who was knocked out of the primaries for the Democrats
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: by Zohan man Dani he's running as an independent. Is
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: he the hope for the side, is he the hope
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: for a sensible left candidate or is it all over.
• 42:22
  Speaker 19: Well?
• 42:22
  Speaker 23: I suppose he's the only hope the sensible Democrats have,
• 42:26
  Speaker 23: which is really pathetic because he did a terrible job
• 42:28
  Speaker 23: during COVID, the one who was responsible for the deaths
• 42:32
  Speaker 23: of so many elderly New Yorkers who are living in
• 42:34
  Speaker 23: nursing homes at the time. But these wealthy New Yorkers
• 42:37
  Speaker 23: who have been supporting Democrats for years are now seeing
• 42:40
  Speaker 23: the results of the policies that they and themselves have
• 42:43
  Speaker 23: been giving money to, and now so many of them
• 42:45
  Speaker 23: are preparing to leave New York City because of what
• 42:48
  Speaker 23: is happening. I was just looking at a poll before
• 42:50
  Speaker 23: we went on air on the Daily Mail about almost
• 42:53
  Speaker 23: eight hundred thousand New Yorkers of the eight million who
• 42:56
  Speaker 23: lived there of eight million people who live there are
• 42:58
  Speaker 23: actually saying they are most likely going to leave New
• 43:01
  Speaker 23: York City if Mom Donnie gets elected. That would be
• 43:05
  Speaker 23: pretty catastrophic for New York to leave that kind of population,
• 43:08
  Speaker 23: especially since, as we discussed last week, the top one
• 43:11
  Speaker 23: percent of New Yorkers pay forty eight percent of the
• 43:13
  Speaker 23: city's income tax revenue. So a lot of people will
• 43:17
  Speaker 23: be leaving New York if this happens. And what's crazy
• 43:19
  Speaker 23: about that is a lot of those people preparing to
• 43:21
  Speaker 23: flee are the ones who have been supporting the Democrats
• 43:24
  Speaker 23: and giving money to causes that led to the rise
• 43:27
  Speaker 23: of this candidate and others like him.
• 43:30
  Speaker 13: Yep, we will see what happens.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: As you know, I was lucky enough to spend Christmas
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: in New York with my family last year. I'm glad
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: we got that one in, but full thanks Win South's
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: hope for the best.
• 43:42
  Speaker 11: Yes, Yeah, New York's a great city and I sure
• 43:46
  Speaker 11: hope to see it. You know, stay that way. I've
• 43:49
  Speaker 11: lived in New York myself, I have family members there.
• 43:52
  Speaker 23: It's a shining beacon of hope in the United States,
• 43:55
  Speaker 23: and it would be so tragic to see it become
• 43:57
  Speaker 23: another one of these burned out, destroyed cities do to
• 44:01
  Speaker 23: disastrous leadership.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us again, Kristen.
• 44:06
  Speaker 11: Thank you, Chris.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, New York Shore is great and has improved enormously
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: over the last thirty years.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: I'd hate to see it go backwards.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: After the break, we're going to catch up with Susi
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: O Brian and Stephen Senter Timpire.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about what sort of a mess the Libs
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: are making of the net zero debate.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Let's bring in the panel now with News Corps National
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Education editor Susio Brian joining us from Melbourne and in Canberra,
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: we got to the two double C breakfast radio host
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: Stephen Senate Tiempo.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Why don't I start with you?
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Stephen, We've got to talk about the Federal Liberal Party.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: I see it pretty simple, right, I see Susan Lee
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: needs to oppose net zero to get energy back on track.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: She needs to argue for a cut in our immigration
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: rate and to really call out the government for wasteful spending.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Do those three things, you'll have a united.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Coalition and your polls will start to turn around. Where
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: am I wrong.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: No, I thought, well, the only cavit I would put
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: on that, Chris is you're right on all three of
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: those things. I question the ability of the current coalition
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: to sell any of those messages. I mean, look at
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: last sitting period. So last week, inflation goes up and
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: the Opposition can't land a blow on the government. We're
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: talking about what kind of t shirt the Prime minister's wearing.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: The Nationals come out, they make a definitive announcement where
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: scrapping net zero. They even came up with the slogan.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: The Liberals are still dillydallying around what their position of
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: this is going to be. You've even got senior members
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: of the Coalition suggesting that the coalition should now be
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: dissolved or the agreement should be put on the table
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: because the Nationals have opposed net zero. You've got the
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: likes of Andrew Bragg out there saying, no, we need
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: to embrace net zero despite the fact that the government's
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: own plan is not working, cannot work. They can't achieve
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: their own targets. Now, if you can't sell that message,
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: you have no business in government. And that's my biggest
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: problem with it. Chris is I don't think they can
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: sell the message.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Susie I had such a simple plan for them and
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Stevens mugged it with reality.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Why can't they join the dots?
• 46:06
  Speaker 18: Well, there's massive problems when yet again we're talking about
• 46:10
  Speaker 18: the party and not about their policies, not about what
• 46:12
  Speaker 18: they stand for, because even they don't know what they
• 46:14
  Speaker 18: stand for.
• 46:15
  Speaker 11: I disagree with you actually on the net zero.
• 46:18
  Speaker 18: I think they've got to have a strong climate target.
• 46:22
  Speaker 18: Otherwise they just commit themselves to decades of irrelevance with
• 46:25
  Speaker 18: younger voters, which will be more than fifty percent at
• 46:28
  Speaker 18: the next election. And that is the way that the
• 46:31
  Speaker 18: party has to go.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: And if the younger voters are talking nonsense about Australia
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: saving the planet, shouldn't we be more interested in educating
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: the younger people and getting the facts on the table
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: rather than allowing a bunch of seventeen year olds on
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Instagram to choose the national policy.
• 46:50
  Speaker 18: Well, you know what, the party was twenty four percent.
• 46:55
  Speaker 18: It's their primary vote at the last election. And we
• 46:57
  Speaker 18: did think, we thought that this was was rock bottom
• 47:00
  Speaker 18: and couldn't go any lower. But when you alienate not
• 47:03
  Speaker 18: just seventeen year olds on Instagram. But forty year olds
• 47:06
  Speaker 18: who actually have a view and will vote every time,
• 47:10
  Speaker 18: then there's nowhere to go but down. This is the
• 47:13
  Speaker 18: way of the future. This is the way that people
• 47:15
  Speaker 18: are young, people really care about the environment.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: Whatever the touch you're doing.
• 47:21
  Speaker 19: To stand for it.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Don't give me this crap that voting for expensive electricity
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: and then zero is caring for the environment. These people
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: wouldn't low in acacia from a melaluca.
• 47:32
  Speaker 13: It's just but that happened, drives.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: That's the point, isn't it.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the point.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: They can't be able to They can't say that there
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: is a better way. I mean, at least that's what
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: the nationals are trying to do, is say that this
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: isn't the only way to save the environment or bring
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: emissions down.
• 47:48
  Speaker 13: This is not not the way to do it.
• 47:51
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: I can just say that, I could just get it
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: just drives me.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Anyway, I go on to waste too much time in it,
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: because we're nearly out of time. And Susio, I've got
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: to hear about this light relief, your lovely column about
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: embarrassing your kids, because yeah, my son the.
• 48:07
  Speaker 18: Other day he's just started working.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my son.
• 48:09
  Speaker 19: The other day.
• 48:10
  Speaker 18: He's just started working at the Herald, started like a
• 48:13
  Speaker 18: junior role.
• 48:13
  Speaker 11: He said to me, Mom, you're not embarrassing.
• 48:16
  Speaker 18: Except when you dance dancer.
• 48:20
  Speaker 13: It's like you dance like a.
• 48:21
  Speaker 18: Lane from Seinfeld. And I'm pretty sure most of your
• 48:24
  Speaker 18: viewers that means you leap. And they, my kids don't realize.
• 48:30
  Speaker 18: The more they say, don't sing, don't dance, don't tell
• 48:32
  Speaker 18: jokes because you are not funny, the more I'm going
• 48:35
  Speaker 18: to do it just to annoy them.
• 48:37
  Speaker 13: And why because I can.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: It's sad when you start to embarrass them.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: It's a moment when they go from tween ages to
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: teenager and you embarrass them. You're facing this. I know
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: you're not a dad, Steve, but you're facing this with
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: your nephew that you dote over.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: Well, that's the point, Chris.
• 48:53
  Speaker 13: I'm not a parent.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: I don't have kids who embarrass but I am the
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: cool uncle my nephew and that's not me for.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: That great stuff. Thanks for joining us, Susie and Steve,
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: and we've got to have more time with these guys
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: next week.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: You've got a bit squeezed this week.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: You just want to share some of your feedback on
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: the net zero topic you shared with us last night,
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: and one viewer says net zero is nothing but a
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: political agenda, and Gary says net zero is destroying Australia.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: Joe says the world's moving on China and India and
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: the US, but the liberals and certainly labor are still
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: shackled to net zero.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: That's exactly the point. Have a look what's happening in
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: the rest of the world. Why do this to ourselves?
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: And when another viewer says our economy is doomed under
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Chris Bahn, it sure would be, but hey, he reckons.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: Some of you can have some free electricity in the
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: middle of the day when you're out at work.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: That'll fix everything.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: I'll see you tomorrow night.