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The Rome of South America | Father Carney’s Mission in Quito · Arena Ablaze Podcast

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Welcome into the arena. This is the arena blaze podcast, and I'm your willing host Marco Sandoval
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I am joined as always by my fellow son of muck Todd Powers. How are you doing today? Todd? We'll see
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Today we're joined by Father Carney the priest walking the streets of Wichita and preaching on the devotion to the Holy Face of worldwide
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worldwide
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We can get to take the conversation in a direction. That is most beneficial
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Our true algorithm is the Holy Spirit and let's begin by renewing our total
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consecration to Jesus through Mary that we may do everything with in through and for Mary as her
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Instrument so that she can lead us to more perfectly do everything with in through and for Jesus. Amen. I
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Todd powers all a repentant sinner
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Renew and ratified today in your hands Oh immaculate mother the vows of my baptism
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I renounce Satan and resolved to follow Jesus Christ even more closely than before
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Mary I give you my heart. Please set it on fire with love for Jesus
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Make it always attentive to his burning thirst for love and for souls
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Keep my heart in your most pure heart that I may love Jesus and in the members of his body with your own
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perfect love
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Mary I entrust myself
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Totally to you my body and soul my goods both interior and the next
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Exterior and even the value of all my good actions
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Please make of me of all that I am and have
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Whatever most pleases you
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Let me be a fit instrument in your immaculate and merciful hands
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For bringing the greatest possible glory to God if I fall, please lead me back to Jesus
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Wash me in the blood and water the flow from his pierced side and
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Help me never to lose my trust in this mountain of love and mercy
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with you Oh immaculate mother you who always do the will of God I
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Unite myself to the perfect consecration of Jesus as he offers himself in the spirit
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To the father for the life of the world. Amen. Well, welcome into the arena
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We're joined by Father Carney
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Fresh from his trip to Quito Ecuador
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Doing wonderful things and I don't know a whole lot about it. So I'll just throw it to you to kind of kick it off
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Yeah, so
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the Royal Convent of the
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Conceptionist
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Was started in the late part of the 1500s and they are Franciscans. They wanted to be
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Carthusian women, but there was something in divine providence that made them Franciscan
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But they're unique because they stay within their convent through
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bars
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so
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Mother Mariana came over to the you to southern Africa from Spain
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with her aunt and about three or four other nuns
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who
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Wanted to start this Royal Convent in Quito Ecuador
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around
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1575 is when that all happened and
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The women of Quito wanted to have the presence of some nuns so they petitioned
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I think it was keep King Philip the second and when he looked at that he approved it
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And that's why it's called a Royal Convent because a king in a Catholic country
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Endorsed it and
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So they came over. They were very holy women and the indigenous began to become part of this convent and
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Our Lady of Good Success
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began to appear to these nuns and
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warned them that
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in the middle of the 20th century the church is going to go through a great demise and
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There's so much into that and I'm not really skilled at it
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I've read the
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Admiral life of Mother Mariana
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It's an amazing story of how this nun who became the mother superior was pitting up with the non-observant group of nuns
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So there was within the convent
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there was a there was faction starting between the Spanish nuns who came to found and the indigenous and
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the nickname of the leader was called the captain and
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She was writing letters to the bishop lying about Mother Mariana
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but there Mother Mariana was having mystical experiences and Jesus told her are you willing to suffer for this captain and
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Jesus said are you willing to suffer the pains of hell for five years of your life on earth in order for her
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conversion and she had such fraternal charity that she said yes, and so this nun died and
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She was judged by Jesus and said you're gonna go to hell, but I'm gonna send you back
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Because your superior is suffering the pains of hell for you for five years and so this captain came back a converted nun and
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acknowledged the
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the the beauty of her life and
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There's so much that I'm just skimming the surface reading the story
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Keeps you on the edge of your seat. It's so amazing
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But so hold on a minute. I gotta finish one point and then keep that thought that I'll be done. So this captain
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She did die and
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Jesus told mother Mariana she is not going to hell
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But she'll be in purgatory until the end of time because she was such a bad girl. Anyways, go ahead
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So sister Mariana was tasked
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with
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having not hell-like
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Suffering but she died and went to hell for five years
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No mother Mariana on behalf of the captain suffered on earth the pains of hell on earth
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Yes, how is that possible? That's well in reality
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I'm gonna be very medieval here. They psychological pains are they physical emotional pains of hell include the loss of God
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Which is the worst and physical pains?
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How do you not go crazy she almost did but she had so much grace from God to maintain her and
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So the problem is when people go to hell they will go through this for eternity
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the loss of God and
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The pains of hell which that's why I walk the streets of Wichita is because I don't want anyone to go there
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I told Bishop Kimmy that once in his office and I was crying and
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He was very happy that a priest was doing that
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Yeah, it's been kind of consistent, you know, our lady of Fatima
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She showed the children visions of hell and I just did a small read on
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Our lady of good success and and it it told me that that she died from the effects of watching the visions eventually
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She died three times and she rose twice after her first two deaths and then she finally died the third time
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so
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Why were you there that they were to preach on the Holy Face for them or yes, let me make a point about
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Our lady good success in the statue and then I'll answer that question. So
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The nuns decided to build to make a statue of our lady of good success after these apparitions and
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So they have this artist do it and he didn't finish the top of it
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And he went away to get some paint and stuff and spent the night and he came back and he saw it was done
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and so what happened is
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three archangels finished this statue and our lady actually went into the statue and
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She said I will be the abbess of this community. So her statue is where the abbess's chair is in the upper
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Choir above the main part of the church. That's just amazing to me and it's true. And so I went there
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for the first time
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this January
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So it's
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2026 right now and a young man who was about to join the Carmelites had been going there
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Several times a year for the course of one or two years and he he came to me with a wad of cash
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He said father. I'm gonna become a Carmelite
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I'm gonna be praying for you, but I want you to continue the relationship I had with the mother superior
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her name is mother Angelita and
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He was allowed to go and see
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mother Angelita and talk to her to help kind of be a spiritual leader for him to discern his life and
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I got to go in there the first time and I got to see mother Mariana. Her body's incorrupt
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I went into a chapel inside the comment called the chapel of Our Lady of Mount Carmel
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There were three or four incorrupts there and there's about three or four more other ones. I haven't seen yet
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So this common has almost ten incorrupt nuns
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who founded this wonderful community and
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Our Lady of Good Success said that this convent will last until the end of time
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so when I was there the first time I
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got to show
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mother Hanalita my books on the devotion of the Holy Face and I showed in
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My book I wrote called the consecration of Holy Face where I used mother Mariana as an example of fraternal charity
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When we're attacked to give back charity
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So, you know
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She was attacked by the captain and she was willing to suffer the pains of hell for five years as we mentioned earlier
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and so mother Hanalita said well, why don't you come back in July and lead the devotion to the Holy Face and
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I said yes, so mother said yes, this devotion has been going on for 30 years
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But the people that are leading it are getting old and there's no young people coming up
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So I think you should come back. And so that's why I went back is to lead this devotion
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And so I preached about devotion to the Holy Face in English because my Spanish is mi malo
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it's very bad and I had a translator there and
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It was an amazing experience. And I also preached at the Carmel called Carmen Alto. It's about a half a mile walk
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between the convent of the conceptionists and
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The Carmen Alto and I preached to them a little bit different series of sermons
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so I had a double mission where I was preaching to the Carmel lights in the morning and
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around midday to the conceptionists and so
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What I do want to say before I'm done answering that question is Our Lady of Good Success
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Some have told me when people go to see her
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Sometimes she wants to help people and I told dr. Horovod who I mentioned earlier
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She's the one that translated the Admiral life of Mother Mariana into English and I called her my first time and she said yeah
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Our lady really wants to help you
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so
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What happened that might really have a great impact on the diocese of Wichita someday?
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of course talk I'll talk to my bishop if we ever get there and get his permission is
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There's something great. I think that's happening. Our lady wants to help our diocese
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because I
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Have been asked to help
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Of this a Franciscan priest who was coming there
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He is trying to restore the second
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house of recollection in the Western Hemisphere that means this this parish called
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Santiago was the second place built for retreats in the western side of the hemisphere and
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This place is being dilapidated. It's it's over 400 years old and
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He
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Wants to revive it and he showed me a room where this
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Sister used to spend her mother and she's incorrupt
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She's not their bodies not there, but I was in this room and you could see the you know
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The water damage it was going on. So I
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Gave a pledge to this father and he said when are you coming back?
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And so what I think might happen is that we'll have mission trips
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People will come to Quito and and help this father
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Restore this grade school and high school so that these nuns can move back and teach the people and so these Franciscans
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They own the land on this property and then looking up the mountain
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There's all these houses and they said father the Franciscans own all this land, but they let the poor people live there
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and
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So I think this will be a great experience for people from the United States of America to come
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To visit Quito because Quito is called the Rome of South America as a nickname because there's so many beautiful old churches built in
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the Spanish style
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Around the turn of the 15
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1600s that I think it'd be great for us to get some of that culture
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Learn how to help build these places and maybe we can build some churches like that in our diocese. So that's
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Something where maybe you're gonna get involved and I don't know if you can eat too if you would ever like to
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But it's just are they to good success has a lot to offer so could you
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Help everyone understand what an incorrupted body means and why that's so unbelievable and important. Yes
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So an incorrect body means they've been buried
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Or some of them haven't been buried. They're so saintly. They just keep them up and they don't corrupt and we know that once
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Somebody
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Body and soul separates. There's a process that begins it's called
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Decomposition and bacteria that are living in our bodies then go to work to get our bodies to become dirt again
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dust and so
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Incorrupt people
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Have the supernatural grace given by God to stop that
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Process that happens every time
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100% of the time unless
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Someone has lived a holy life
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God wants to use the incorruption as an example
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And so I tell people when I preach this devotion to the Holy Face all over the world
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I was a chaplain of Mother Wilhelmina. She's in corrupt
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What's God doing? He's saying look at her follow her example. So what's her example that I like to promote she loved
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The traditional habit she loved our divine liturgies in tradition and she was also
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Enrolled in a confeteria the Holy Face. So does that help it does? Okay
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Thank you. You're welcome. I was gonna ask you about Ecuador
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You kind of went into it, but that's fascinating to me the Rome of South America because I don't as a Catholic
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I don't ever think about Ecuador or or Quito or know anything about it
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So I'm just curious like just on a general
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Just try out what traveling there was like what the people were alive part of South America. Is it in?
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It's on the equator and it is on the Pacific Coast. So it's on the West
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it's actually a little bit east of us and
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So typically from Wichita you fly to Houston and then you take a red eye
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So you fly at night from about?
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1145 p.m. And you get to Quito at about 5 a.m. And
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It's easy for me to sleep on the plane when I go to Quito. I don't know and then I wake up and I'm ready
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to go
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so Ecuador
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Was of course indigenous and then the Spanish came and they established it as a Catholic country and it was a colony of Spain
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But there were so many revolutions going on that the borders and naming countries was something that was not it was fluid
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So it became a Republic and it was run by Freemasons and then this man named President Garcia Moreno
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There's so much that we said about him
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He is a man that I really look up to but he got Quito
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I mean he got Ecuador to be reestablished as a Catholic country
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And so what he did is he got Pope Blessed Pi at the ninth to have a Concord
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Signed by the Congress in Ecuador to establish as a Catholic country and here's something that may sound very foreign to us Americans
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it was
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impossible to get buried in Ecuador if you were not a Catholic and so this is an amazing thing to think about and
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Since it's so foreign for us. Let me connect the dots in the devotion to the Sacred Heart
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We are praying for Christ to be the king
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And so what does that mean? That means every Catholic country is civilly
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Catholic and
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So it makes it very easy one to become Catholic two to get to heaven because that's why Jesus gave us the church is to
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Save souls. He redeemed us
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So do you want anything else on?
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Just the people just the people
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It's a Catholic nation. So is it you know, often oftentimes, okay
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So oftentimes like here I I yearn for would be great like when we do the procession. I want to do more processions
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Why is it once a month? You know, I want to do it all the time. So I'm curious if there
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it's just much more Catholic the trappings of Catholicism are still there and
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The people when the revolutionists were taking it away from Catholicism
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it was 95% wanted to cook Catholic faith there and sees revolutions got loud and big and so
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The trappings are still there. So at the end of the devotion at the Conceptionist royal convent
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There was a mass and then after the mass I took two relics of
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The Holy Face the Val Veronica. There's a story there. I
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had these relics stamped on linens here in Wichita and
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I asked for some help and someone got Cardinal Burke to help us and so
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By his eminence we got permission to have these touch to the Val Veronica in Rome in
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2024 and so I gave two of them to mother
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but before I gave them to mother one of them took
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the Val out of the tube and framed it and so
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He gave it to me from the sacristy and I went out into the nave of the church
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that's the big part of the church and I
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brought it down to the altar rail and
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I gave it to
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the older lady who was in charge for 30 years of keeping this devotion and she got to carry it around and I had a
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candle in front of me and
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Christian who was my translator had a
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Banner of the Holy Face and we walked around the church and peep these people were coming
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Touching it putting their rosaries on kissing it. It was such a
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Romanesque way our style of being a Catholic they were so pious
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But it's natural to them because this is what was taught to their ancestors and
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We met I met somebody who's reading my book there
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they bought a book on the consecration of the Holy Face a lady that went to
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to Steubenville to
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Learn, but her father
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Said to me father
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Our family has been involved in the devotion to our Lady gets us for 300 years
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I don't even think our city's that old, it's Wichita. So there's a lot of depth
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because Catholicism really started
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Right about in Quito Ecuador because let's put this into context
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I don't remember the exact date when Our Lady of Guadalupe came. Does anyone remember here?
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1600s, but it's actually
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1500s sometime and it's only like three or four years later there Our Lady of Good Success began to appear
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So that tells you the depth this devotion Our Lady of Good Success has so much potential
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I think Our Lady of Guadalupe and her are closely connected in
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the popularity so there's a lot of
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There's a lot of opportunity for here Our Lady of Good Success her revelations to be revealed because heaven sometimes
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regulates when the devotion or the revelations of Our Lady under the different titles becomes popular and
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I think Our Lady
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Excuse me, the devotion of Holy Face. It is a good example. That's it hasn't been popularized yet, but it has such great
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Potential with the layman performing six to ten thousand miracles. So I hope that helps
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how is or your
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Travels funded
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How does your office fund these requests?
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Are they paid for by the places that you're going to?
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To or is there a way for people to make donations?
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to to your office
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yeah, so a lot of times I'm asked to go and give talks in the US and
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so people will give me a stipend for that and
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I do some book signings and then people will give me donations for that. And so that helps to pay for my costs. Mm-hmm. And so
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When I get a surplus
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Then I can fund myself to go and just do it for free like I did for Our Lady Good Success
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I want to do that for her
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So that's how that works. I just noticed that the Our Lady Good Success was talking about sins of blasphemy
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Impurity and heresy or kind of like the main thing
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She was focused on and that struck me the blasphemy piece because that's you know
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When we're doing the Holy Face devotion, we're thinking of irreverence
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idolatry blasphemy and we were just recently having a conversation about around irreverence and
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And just when you were talking about the people coming and kissing
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You know the Holy Face and touching their rosaries to it. I just
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it moves me inside to think of being in the presence of a
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population being very reverent a lot of times
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When we feel uncomfortable I do like all the time and when we were talking in terms of this
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irreverence, it's just almost like a tuning fork inside of you sometimes when you just
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You know when we were talking in terms of the Eucharist when the Eucharist isn't shown the right amount of reverence it just
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Starts vibrating in you and causes a lot of a lot of pain
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So it's great to hear hear that and when I say I wish that things were a little more Catholic here and we could do
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processions more often it's because it just
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Feels so good such life-giving source
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It reverberates all throughout society in a lack of formality
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You go to Chester's for dinner and I wear a sport coat and I wear shoes
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I don't wear open toed sandals shorts or a t-shirt
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You look around people have baseball hats caps on you see the same thing at Sunday mass you see it's all over
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It's permeated this lack of formality and and it's really a lack of respect that
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formality
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allows citizens and societies to be able to get along and it
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shows a deference or respect based upon your place in society, and I
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really believe that
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That
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Aspect so my dad always wore a suit or a coat and tie to mass. There was a part of my life
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Where I was really heavy
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Over 500 pounds and I just couldn't fit into clothes and to me being there in
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Shorts and a t-shirt was better than not being there
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But I always felt ashamed and but if you go to mass and you see there's it and especially I hate to say this
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I'm gonna get in trouble with women wearing
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You know the tops and the shoulders not being covered and especially don't ever go to Magdalene
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The night of prom for the high school like the dresses are so sure and I'm looking around thinking
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Did this dad let his daughter leave the house?
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With a dress so sure if you have to press it down and you're going to church
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Like what?
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so anyways, that's
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Yeah, no, I mean, it's I coach teenage girls and we we talk about those things
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You know purity chastity. It's not an easy conversation to have but just trying to impress on them that
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you know
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You know, I think in terms of marriage or men and women were we're not
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Society tries to put us in competition or complimentary like I tell them to the lowest common denominator
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Yeah, this boy showed up to pick up my daughter for a dance without a jacket he was in shorts in a
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Hawaiian out and I said, I think you need to go home and change you're not taking her to this homecoming dance
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Yeah, that's ridiculous. Well, I'll say
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Jesus came to restore order
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because this world was in such disorder and
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order is virtue and part of that is
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Modesty and left, you know, let your modesty be known to the world
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And so when I was in Quito
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The native women that wear their distinctive dress is an amazing thing
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they wear hats that look like men's hats, but the brim is smaller and
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they wear these
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These dresses. I don't know what they are called, but they're the colors of their culture and they wear
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They just look so proper. They're so cute and I would smile at them and bless they would Padre give me your blessing and and
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We don't have a distinctive cultural dress for women and for men here, I mean
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Yeah in the 50s and so I'm a big proponent of bringing that back
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Myself and I wrote a book on the cassock and how even the priesthood has its uniform
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And so I think men wearing uniforms again if they do live or do work where they're supposed to have, you know
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That's a great thing to bring to church. That's a great thing to have properly
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and to have a certain formal wear I
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Think is a sign of humility because we want to present ourselves always to God in our best
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whether we're at church or at home and
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work or
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Having leisure to to look like that it can go the wrong way where we can dress out of pride
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But we can also dress out of humility and saying I need to look my best for God because I want to present to him
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The best foot every it's respect. Yeah, it's respect for our Lord. It's respect for my fellows. It's it's a honoring
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Those around me that are accompanying me is the way I look at it and and not out of arrogance
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So I think you guys need to start some kind of a club or a guild
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Where you start teaching men how to dress properly, but I will say the formal hats are coming back
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I love that at the airport. You're seeing, you know, you see men in their shorts, but they're wearing these formal hats
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It's like you got you got part of it, right? So let's keep going
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Yeah, we bring that we need to bring the best out of each other again
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That's why I tell the girls you got to bring the best out of these young men
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Because if you don't, you know, you have to make them earn
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Your your arm. You don't want to show too much too early like
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You know, they'll go to the lowest common common denominator man
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I had I had one of my first dates with my wife. We were it was like 39 years old
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so I met her in the middle of my life and we're driving down the road and and I
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Said some profanities as I can do and she is driving the car and she says
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I'm a lady and I expect to be treated as such and I was like
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This one's a keeper she has
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expectations
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boundaries and I need that and I
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Immediately was tuned in to that aspect of her and how important it was for me
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Always be looking for people that make you better. That's right. And that's the the lady's
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Responsibility in society is to say no
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We're not going to behave like this and when the ladies start behaving like the men then you have total chaos and then go quickly
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Yeah
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Well, that's wonderful. I and the last thing I'm just curious about I guess on a lighter note is the food
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What was the food like there? I mean, I'm I'm from the Hispanic culture. So I'm curious
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well, we went to this lamb house and
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I was amazed by the lamb and
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We asked the owner of the bar. He says where do you get your lamb?
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he says oh it we have the lamb grazing about an hour and a half from here and so
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The lamb was so good because keto is the second highest capital in the world. It's over 10,000 feet
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So if you go as a gringo like me, they have a tea called take coca
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Which is tea that has the natural cocaine leaves, but it's good for your
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High altitude sickness for gringos and so at this restaurant this lamb was so wonderful and
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I wanted to make the point that because there's a there's a rainy season during February and January and February
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The grass has so many
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Minerals and vitamins in it. So when the lamb eats that it's it's from land to table is it just
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It's so nutritious
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So we love that and their food is very clean they don't use a lot of chemicals they use
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Natural, so it's it's the normal organic that you know, you don't have to have a stamp that says it's organic
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So the food is very clean just is yeah
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so if Denver is
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5,500 feet in
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Red River, New Mexico is I think that's 9,000 feet. This is even I this is a capital of
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People living
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two miles up basically
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Yes, so my first time I had
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Altitude sickness. Yes, you were dizzy lightheaded. Yes, and it was
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Dehydrated and so some ladies gave me some patches for altitude
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sickness that had natural ingredients like cinnamon in it and and
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I also brought a lot of minerals to put my water
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So I wasn't dehydrated and I made it through I was strong and the tea the teacocca is a good idea
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To drink but don't take any back with you. It's illegal
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That's awesome just all of that sounds
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so interesting and you know, my wife and I talk about this a lot like just
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Eating closer to your table and and you know being closer to the earth and more reliant on that. So
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Father on a separate note what has been your most memorable adventure?
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Since being called to the priesthood
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Wow
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I'll say
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going to Australia and
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There was a parish there that was traditional at mass
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They have three or four priests
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Sydney so Sydney's five million people ten million. I can't remember now. It's really large
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And so I was asked to preach at the Sunday principal mass and
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the pastor was my deacon and
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the associate was my subdeacon and the mass was just like the third level of heaven like st
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Paul says and I preached about the Holy Face and it was
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Propagated very well. There was a lot of promotion months before the church was packed
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there were people outside the church that were coming in for communion communion to 800 people took forever and
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Is that was probably the most third most amazing time in my priesthood?
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I'll have to go off the air and research to remember what my first and second are but that's my third
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because it was recent it was
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Beginning of this year are in the middle of this year. We're in August almost August now
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So that was really moving to me. What's the most beautiful church or Basilica that you've ever visited?
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And then is there one that you said a mass in yourself?
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You were just it was shockingly
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Beautiful. I'll say st. Mary major the Archbishop can Rome of Our Lady is my favorite beauty and
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I got to say mass every day at Carmen Alto and
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this is a
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Carmelite group of nuns, but they have this
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magnificent church high ceilings
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high altar in the colonial Spanish style with
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Probably eight side altars and
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We have a church all to ourselves every day and the nuns were there and their grill
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So usually Carmelites you have the nave and then it's like an L and then the nuns are there and you can never see them
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if you're in the nave, but as a priest they can see your altar and
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on
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The last day I had what's called
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A
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Parlor with the Carmelite nuns the mothers appeared all the nuns on her beings had to be there unless they were sick and
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We had an exchange
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But for about an hour, it was really we were laughing a lot
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And that's what Carmelite good Carmelites none. These Carmelites have a lot of charity
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So I was so glad but the mother said did you know that our whole church and where we live was given to us by a saint
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Her name is st. Mariana the first saint
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canonized we've maybe the second canonized in in the Western Hemisphere and so
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Kido has a lot of relics and what does that mean?
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They have a lot of holy people haven't been canonized yet
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And so I'm a man that likes the underdog likes the rookie, you know, I like to promote
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These saints so that they become
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Saints that will be at our altar someday. So that's fun for me. So
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That's awesome. Thanks for sharing. Yeah, they're in back again by Father Corny. Yep, exactly
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All right. Well, unless you have anything else to share. I think that's just thanks a lot for having me on
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This is our second podcast. Yeah our second interview. Okay, there'll be many more. I hope so. So
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Well, I'll give you my blessing and please okay, you know many pot trees that feel he's pure to sancti. Amen
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seat Norman Dominic do
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Insecure Dominic's are a rat in a ma'am. They're coming. We are sort of India Dominus fobis. Goom. Welcome spirit
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At you in addiction. Amy, but then these pot trees that feel he's pure to some shindit super voice of money and sent there. Amen
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