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Drive Thru News #44 - It's a slow news month... but we're still gonna #sendit! · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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Well, I guess that just about wraps up April and I have to give a big shout
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out to you, Tanya, for helping us get through this April episode here.
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And as Brad likes to say, unfortunately, he couldn't be with us here tonight.
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That was set up pretty well.
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That was, that was set up pretty well.
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But I thought we were going to get a good April fool's on you, my man.
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No.
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Well, I guess we should probably kick this thing off.
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Shouldn't we?
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Maybe I got to get to it.
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Pop the clutch.
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Let's do it.
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Welcome to drive through episode number 44.
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This is our monthly recap where we put together a menu of automotive,
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motorsport, and random car.
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Jason news.
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Now.
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Let's pull up to window number one for some automotive news.
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Well, you know, in the spirit of April fools, we seem to do this every year,
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kind of flip flopping between herb day, earth day, April fools for April.
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It's such a slow news month.
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And I got to bring something up that you brought up before Brad,
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that you don't like to hear.
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It's the mid year already for 2024 vehicles.
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And I think that's why the news is so slow because we should be
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talking about those 20, 25 models that are right around the corner.
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I can't say that I'm excited about any new cars, really.
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I found a good one for you.
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And in the spirit of, of upcoming father's day of April fools, I found the perfect.
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Dad joke for you.
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You know how many, many times on this show you will kick off and go, you
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know what really grinds my gears?
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Yeah.
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The old family guy bit.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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You know what really grinds my gears?
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Uh, what's that?
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Clutch failure.
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Yeah, I'd have to say that is probably the number one cause of grinding gears.
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I thought that was good.
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I read that.
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I laughed out loud.
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I was like, that is the perfect petrol head dad joke.
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If I've ever heard one, that's, that's fantastic.
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Yes.
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It is unfortunately a slow news month.
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We aren't kidding about that, but we do have some things to cover here.
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Wanted to kick off just a little bit of Earth Day stuff, talking about the 20th
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anniversary of the green Grand Prix.
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If you missed it, I'm sorry you missed it.
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We live streamed it again this year on our Twitch channel, and we were
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posting about it on our new Instagram.
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So if you're not following us at Motoring Podcast Network.
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Please do so that's where we're posting all the updates about the shows, about
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the drive thrus, about everything we're doing, especially with our partners
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and other folks that are participating in the motor and podcast network.
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So 20 years, the green ground pre I got to ride a shotgun with one
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of the folks from Toyota corporate in a brand new 2024 Prius prime.
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I learned a ton about it.
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There's a nearly.
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Hour and 45 minute video of us going back and forth, talking about the
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Prius, talking about Toyota, the history of Toyota motorsport, as we're
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driving around the track, so you get a perspective of Watkins Glen while
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we're driving this Prius and, you know, debating back and forth and stuff.
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So shout out to Jeremy from Toyota.
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Fantastic time.
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Excellent driver has done the green Grand Prix a ton of times.
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The autocross was a little lackluster this year.
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We have recap footage of that as well out on our YouTube channel.
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The weather wasn't great.
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And I'm thinking maybe that's what kind of put a damper, ha
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ha pun intended on the event.
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It did start to clear up throughout the weekend, but I will say some of my
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favorite cars, as you saw, we posted some pictures on our social media on at grand
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touring motor sports, Instagram channel, the veggie powered rabbit diesel pickup
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truck was definitely a favorite for me.
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And then the Autocross killing Geo Metro, AKA Suzuki Swift was back and
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all EV built by one of the universities.
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Fantastic car.
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Good to see that back out there again.
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And I'm assuming they explain how the ruling works or
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the scoring and everything.
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So what is it?
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It's the greatest distance in the amount of time you have to run it or something?
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It's a trophy bearing event because it's a SCCA sanctioned Road rally.
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So you actually score SCCA points, you get a trophy.
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It's a legitimate, it's not just some gimmicky thing that they're putting on.
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It's very professionally done.
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I mean, obviously after 20 years, they've got their act together.
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This year they did try some different timing software, which is pretty cool.
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And the most important thing, you know, obviously the autocross is
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scored like a traditional SCCA autocross and all that kind of stuff.
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Yeah.
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Oh my God.
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The Sienna at the autocross.
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That'd be fun.
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They, uh, and they do break it down into classes, which is cool.
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So the Sienna Pride be in its own class as a van, just like my Jeep was in a diesel
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only class, you know, that kind of thing.
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So it's not closed to just EVs or hybrids.
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It's alternative to gasoline.
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So there's a whole bunch of options there.
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There's homegrown, there's SAE cars, all sorts of stuff at the Green Grand Prix.
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So at the end, what you hang your hat on, what you can boast
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about is those MPG numbers.
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And I'm surprised you guys didn't ask me, how did the Prius do?
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Is the Prius Prime a plug in hybrid?
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It is.
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What I've learned is all the prime models are plugins.
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Okay.
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So that, that's what makes it prime.
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Exactly.
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We managed to squeeze out by playing with the hybrid system because
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what's cool about the prime is you can actually force it into gas only
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mode or full EV mode or hybrid mode.
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You can hypermile it.
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You can, you can.
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So we were able to stretch the 40 miles of all electric that it can do.
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49.
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Yeah.
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Throughout the 80 miles.
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Of the green ground pre and we clocked in 99.
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9 miles per gallon.
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It was insane.
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So we barely used a gallon of fuel during that entire, like
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two hours that we were on track.
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Something tells me that the E46 M3 that Clarkson ran against the Prius
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on the top of your track would not be able to see those same numbers.
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No, not even close.
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The Green Grand Prix is a lot of fun, hoping to see it
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grow maybe in its 21st year.
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Here's some rumors about things that are changing.
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So really looking forward to that coming up next year at Watkins Glen.
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So if you can make the trek, check it out.
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But if you want to see what it's been like over the last couple of
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years, check our YouTube channel for all the different live streams.
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I guess they wouldn't be live streams anymore.
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They would be Just videos, right?
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Streaming.
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Yeah.
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Streams.
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I guess you're streaming it.
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Yeah.
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Before you move on for those of us, wink, wink, nudge, nudge me who are interested
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in possibly running with my, now that I'm a hybrid owner, Toyota Sienna,
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maybe next year or in years to come, where can we go to get more information?
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www.
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greengrandprix.
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com.
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That'll have all the rules, regulations, details, costs.
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It's not a very expensive event, but yeah, everything you need
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to know is on greengrandprix.
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com.
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Well, other big news for the show, we advertise this.
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On the motoring podcast network, Instagram, and a bunch of other places.
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As you know, we have a partnership that's been building with the ACO for
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the American arm of the automobile club of the West, the sanctioning
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body of 24 hours in Lemans.
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So I took over as the MC for evening with a legend.
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And I was looking back over the calendar, you know, kind of reminding people,
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Hey, you know, check out these episodes and things that we've done in the past.
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And almost to the day, the serendipity of this, right.
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And I hate that word almost to the day.
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I got to sit down and do round two with Mario Andretti.
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What an unbelievable, just legendary driver.
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Hell of a guy for almost 85 years old.
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He is in top physical shape.
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He's all there.
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Amazing storyteller.
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We specifically talked about his not one, not two, but nine attempts.
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Winning Lamar over basically a four decade period.
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And so lots of really interesting stories.
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I mean, there's one point when you listen to the interview, we're just
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cracking up because he's talking about breaking zones at night.
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And he tells a story about this church and he kept using it as a reference point.
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At one point he goes, I just kept thinking that I hope the church doesn't move.
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What?
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So it was a lot of fun.
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It was good to get back together with Mario again.
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And we're going to re release the episode here in the next coming week.
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So stay tuned to break fix podcast, where you'll see the evening
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with a legend series coming out.
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We're actually kicking it off with a reprise of Ben Keating's
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episode from late last year.
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So that's going to come out and then we're going to go to leapfrog.
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Some of the episodes.
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So we're going to be bringing that onto the motoring podcast network,
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obviously sponsored by the ACO.
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So really looking forward to that.
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I also did Rick noobs a couple of months ago in February.
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That'll be coming out here in the summer.
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And then we've got some other guests lined up, so I don't want to
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spoil anything, but if you're not an ACO USA member, check it out.
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You can get access to the private Facebook, get access
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to some of these legend.
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We actually recorded the Mario episode.
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In front of a live audience and people are sending me
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questions and managing the chat.
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And so it was a really, really good time as super geeked to see him.
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And again, you know, just focusing on those Lamont stories.
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I mean, so much good and so much bad and so many learning experiences for him.
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I just was like absorbing as much as I could from the storytelling.
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So absolutely fantastic.
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And it is available right now on our Patreon for our VIPs.
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So you can get it uncut raw, exactly the way it was recorded today.
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Patreon.
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com forward slash GT motor sports.
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Sweet.
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So what do you have planned for Mario next year?
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I know, right?
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We got to do an anniversary special with Mario and Dreddy.
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I think that's going to be awesome.
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Well, that's the end of our showcase.
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Shortest episode ever.
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So why don't we move on to automotive news?
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I feel like we should just start making shit up.
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Well, you know, that's what some other shows do, but we're
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going to stick to the facts.
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Volkswagen announced this month.
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The new W24 VR motor going into the GTI.
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So what you're saying is it's Volkswagen with a T, right?
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Remember that?
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No, it's, it's Volkswagen.
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Volkswagen, ah.
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They're from Minnesota.
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Volkswagen from Minnesota.
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We'll power it with eggs.
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That's our new alternative fuel.
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We'll call it the Yolkswagen.
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No, they should power it with potatoes.
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What would that be?
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The Spudwagen?
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Yes, the Spudnikwagen.
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All right.
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Well, we got no Volkswagen news, no Audi news, no Porsche news.
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We got nothing from Mercedes because I don't know what they're
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doing over there, building the EQS.
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But we have some news sort of by way of BMW.
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Do you guys remember the color changing car that they were kind
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of throwing out there, but it wasn't really color changing.
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It was monochromatic, like a Kindle body, and you could do all this kind of stuff.
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And then they talked about patterns and, you know, making the car
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chameleon to the background, all that.
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You remember, we talked about this a couple of times.
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Yeah, but I thought it was actually towards the end there.
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The latest variation was actually color changing.
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It was official in April.
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I don't know if it's April fools, but the headline reads.
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BMW unveils the world's first fully color changing car.
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What could go wrong?
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Cool idea.
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I guess.
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Breaker, breaker.
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I'm in pursuit of a blue, I mean, green, uh, uh, yellow BMW.
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I guess the question is how long does it take?
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Yeah.
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First of all, do you have to swipe your credit card to download the subscription
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so that you can change the color?
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And do you have to buy new colors through microtransactions?
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Do they use the BMW slash EA subscription model?
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Yes.
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All of them.
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I don't know.
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I think the idea is cool.
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I mean, you're going to see some crazy stuff.
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To quote Tanya from the last time we talked about this, I believe she
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said some asshats going to run around with dick butts all over their car.
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Shout out to Sam Harrington.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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I don't know what the limit is on the capability or the technology.
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It was just sort of a headline in a picture of a not so attractive BMW in
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a not really Harlequin, it was a very price is right looking seventies layout.
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I feel like you didn't need to say not so attractive BMW.
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I feel like you say that anyway, when you just say a BMW, you know, the
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grills are small on this particular one.
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That's the news right there.
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BMW grills have gotten smaller, small grill, small grill.
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I like the idea of a Harlequin.
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I want to change it up.
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I want my car black today, tomorrow, Navy blue.
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I want to do something crazy.
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Cause I'm going to a car show.
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I think that's cool.
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But having owned a BMW in the past, and you've heard me say
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this before, overcomplicated and not made of the best materials.
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So sort of wondering how long before this breaks, it's going
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to be expensive to replace.
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Yeah.
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Is it Sherwin Williams paint or is it bare?
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It's Kindle.
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It's Kindle paint.
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Yeah.
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Is it, do you flip a switch?
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I bet in order for it to work, the car probably has to be in park or
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it has to be in some special mode.
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Yeah.
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You can't do it while driving down the road.
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Well, it looks like I stand corrected.
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Our resident Mercedes aficionado has found an article for us.
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What is this all about?
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This is the most interesting thing happening right now.
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I mean, it's pretty sad.
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What is this fossil that you have presented us with?
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What are you talking about?
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The G Wagon.
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It's like a Tyrannosaurus Rex.
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They've been making this thing for a hundred years.
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How is this news?
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And now they're making an electric one.
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Well, yes, it's not even about the G Wagon.
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Per se, but yes, they're making an electric one, but what they're doing is
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alphabet soup badge engineering, again, dropping the whole EQ, EQE, EQ, whatever
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nomenclature, and they're going back to the more traditional letter and numbers,
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God, even though the numbers when it's EV really don't mean anything anymore,
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but the points don't matter 100 percent don't matter the EQG what get out of here.
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How do you pronounce that?
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Equi Equigee.
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E Egegee.
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I got, I got a Egegee.
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A 2005 Egegee.
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So it won't be the EQG anymore.
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It'll just be the G580.
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It's just the guh.
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The guh.
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It's the guh.
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But who knows what the 580 actually has anything to do with.
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Brad, I get your point.
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It's sort of like the Volkswagen.
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How do you actually pronounce Touareg?
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Is it twarg?
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It's Torg from Borg.
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Yeah, right.
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I never really Glommed onto the whole EQ idea, the EQE and the EQS.
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And I mean, I looked at them and I went, that's an A class,
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that's an ML, that's a G wagon.
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Why reinvent the wheel?
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You know, I guess we went through the same thing with Audi, although it's been
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30 years where they dropped the Audi 80 and the 90 and they became the A4
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and the A5 and all this kind of thing.
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And they leaned into that, but Mercedes had already
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established their nomenclature.
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And when they went to this EQ idea, it just didn't make sense.
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Now, as far as this.
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Fossil is concerned.
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It should be in a museum at this point.
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This is unbelievable that it must be super popular.
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They can continue to sell the G wagon with basically almost no revisions.
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Well, I mean, news about the G wagon, you know, a little side tangent,
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two players that were just drafted in the WNBA on the same day, both
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bought G wagons for themselves.
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So they are popular with the affluent people.
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Bought or given?
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Uh, the article I read said bought, but you know, I don't know.
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I don't think Lewis Hamilton has bought any of his Mercedes.
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That's all I'm saying.
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Oh, of course not.
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Well, I mean, they're drafted by the WNBA.
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I don't think they're getting much from Mercedes.
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I'm just saying Mercedes sponsors, some of the stadiums and sports events too.
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I mean, I see it out there every now and again.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they got some sort of sponsorship
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anyway, to tie into the G wagon.
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You know, they are still popular.
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We've got a club member or a friend of the show who has one as well.
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Although he kind of beats the crap out of his cause he actually off roads it.
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They still float around and I want to hate on it, but I
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actually, I liked the G wagon.
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I think it's cool, but it is a fossil fossil.
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They still make, I know, I know, but you know what?
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You're a fossil.
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So of course it makes sense that you would like it.
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Everything you own is fossilized.
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Here's the thing.
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Even the Jeep is, isn't that old, but it uses like old, old, old fossil fuel.
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That's true.
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Let's be real to Brad's point.
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This is.
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A vehicle for the affluent.
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The 2024 G Class, the AMG G63.
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We're going to do a pricing guess.
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Is 183, 000.
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What?
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There's a lot of other cars you can buy for 200 grand.
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There's a class of people that are supporting the purchase of these vehicles.
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Having ridden in a G Wagon, they're not that nice.
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Compared to the other Mercedes, like an S Class.
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They are military vehicles.
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Why the fuck would it be nice?
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People are delusional.
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The people that buy this, yeah, I'm going to stereotype here.
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The rich, white, blonde ladies that get this to drive around to the
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shops on Rodeo Drive, they think they're getting some luxury vehicle.
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It's the same middle class version that buys the Jeep
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Wrangler, four door or the Bronco.
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They think they're getting something super special.
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No, it's a turd.
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Dude, you got it all wrong.
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It's sort of like when all the BMW drivers started buying Audis.
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All the G Wagon soccer moms now drive Land Rover or Range
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Rovers or whatever they are.
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Evoque.
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Partially designed by Beckham.
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No, I think they're driving Cayennes.
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Well, there's that too.
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Anyway.
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If you're not driving a Puro Sangue, I don't know what you're doing, right?
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That's the new hotness right now.
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Come on.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, since we're in mainland Europe and I just brought up Ferrari, we need
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to talk about Stellantis, don't we?
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Yes.
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Let me get to my caviar.
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Count Stellantis.
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It's like the count on Sesame Street.
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Like that's how serious I could take it.
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All right.
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Get this.
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Italy says.
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It's illegal to sell the Alfa Romeo Milano outside of Italy.
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Build.
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What?
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Not sell, build.
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Yes, they have a law that prohibits this.
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Okay, explain it to me.
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Not the Milano specifically.
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But there is some sort of law, apparently, that an Alfa Romeo cannot
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be built outside of Italy, cannot entirely be built outside of Italy.
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So there's a little loop there, and it depends how they designate, at what
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point do the components come together.
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Make it the car because they can probably do some assembly you see you build a
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rolling chassis Right some part of it bring it back in and finish it But when
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you give it the alpha heart, you got to give it the alpha heart in Italy the
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alpha soul Yes, the heart in the soul.
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I imagine walking in to Alfa Romeo behind the receptionist.
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Is this wall?
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Explaining the gestation period of an Alfa Romeo, but when is it Alfa and Alfa?
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What?
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When is it life?
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Oh, wait.
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So I am misinformed here.
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So it actually is the fact of the name of the car.
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So a car called Milano can't be produced outside of Italy because
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it's Italian sounding and it would be false advertising essentially.
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If I, can I just say this sounds like the most Italian law I've ever heard.
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This is Italy, this whole article and just the whole situation is 1000 percent Italy.
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It's so stupid.
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It's real, right?
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And that's the convoluted nature.
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And this is what drives me nuts.
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Every time I go over there, people are like, I don't understand, you
19:42
know, your heritage, blah, blah, blah.
19:43
And I'm like, ah, it's stuff like this that drives me nuts.
19:47
Like who thought this was a good idea and who wasted the time to make it a law?
19:51
I mean, I can understand if it's part of like the ethos of Alfa Romeo to be
19:56
like, we'll call it something different.
19:58
Sort of like the whole Alfa Romeo Tonale is sold here in the United States as the
20:03
Dodge Hornet, which it makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up because
20:06
that drives me nuts because it has nothing to do with the Hornet, blah, blah, blah.
20:10
We won't, I won't get on my soap box and rant about that.
20:12
But the point is it's that kind of Idiocracy that exists.
20:17
I mean, it really would be the first Alfa Romeo not built entirely in Italy, though.
20:23
I wonder if that's part of their issue, too.
20:25
How does the Giulia not sound Italian?
20:27
Because we misspell it here.
20:29
We spell it with a J, so it's all good, right?
20:31
Okay.
20:31
I mean, I guess Milano, the city.
20:34
Well, they sold the Alfa Romeo Milano here in the 90s when Alfa was trying to
20:39
Do its thing again and failed miserably.
20:42
So it's not like the one 64 was also known as the Milano.
20:46
So it's like, whoop dee doo.
20:47
So maybe it's that it's tying back to a failed launch of a car.
20:51
They don't want to do that again.
20:53
Who knows, you know, they're superstitious.
20:55
They're silly, you know, whatever adjective you want to use, whatever.
20:59
But speaking of Italian cars, you may or may not be in the investment
21:03
portfolio to buy one of these vehicles.
21:06
But William Ross.
21:07
from the Ferrari marketplace who has become part of the motoring podcast
21:11
network shares his views most recently on the subtle differences between the
21:16
550 Maranello and the Ferrari 575.
21:20
And it is a deep dive.
21:22
It is encyclopedic.
21:24
William is a wealth of information.
21:26
I found it fascinating and I actually learned a lot.
21:29
Now, if I go to a car show or if I go to car week and I see one
21:32
of these, I might more readily be able to tell the difference
21:36
between the two at first glance.
21:37
And he points out some things even cosmetically that I thought were really
21:41
interesting and things to look for.
21:42
It's one of my favorite Ferraris ever.
21:44
Oh, well, I know.
21:44
And that's why I bring it up.
21:45
Such a beautiful car.
21:46
Absolutely.
21:47
And you know, one of the things that got me talking about the styling, because
21:51
the 575 and 550 aren't that different.
21:53
It came down to like little things, like, like you mentioned before,
21:56
like the little turn indicators.
21:58
But also like the fog lights, just these little changes that they made.
22:02
And that's what made the difference.
22:04
Now, obviously the five 75, the big giveaway was the color
22:07
matched headlights to the body that immediately is not a five 50.
22:11
So I'm like, Oh, okay.
22:12
That's cool.
22:13
So there's these things to like look out for, but I'm with you as a
22:17
front engine V12 rear drive Ferrari.
22:20
One of the best looking cars still to this day.
22:23
I don't, I don't think the five nine nine and some of the later
22:25
ones are as good looking as when the five 50 hit the shelves.
22:29
Yes.
22:30
But what really blew my mind and I didn't know was that the five
22:33
fifties were all manual, right?
22:36
I was expecting certain percentages would be flappy
22:38
paddle and all this kind of thing.
22:39
And so he dives into all these details and then talks about buying them as an
22:43
investment, all those kinds of things.
22:44
So if you're interested in those cars, Check out the episode.
22:47
It's the most recent Ferrari marketplace.
22:49
It's on our platform while moving right along, we don't
22:53
have any other domestic news.
22:55
And that wasn't really domestic news either.
22:57
Cause we talked about Italian cars owned by a conglomerate that owns American cars.
23:01
So we're going to move right across the globe into Japanese
23:06
and Asian domestic vehicles.
23:07
And this next one has to be an April fool's prank because
23:11
otherwise it is headed directly.
23:13
Do not pass go.
23:14
Do not collect 200 to the uncool wall.
23:17
Thoughts on the cabriolet version of the Integra.
23:21
Um.
23:22
This person's probable rendering doesn't even look that bad, honestly.
23:26
This was put out on April 1st.
23:28
It has to be an April Fool's thing.
23:31
There's different posts here and there.
23:34
There's nothing definitive from Acura saying it's true.
23:37
There's also nothing saying it's not true.
23:39
There's no like, oh, it's just an April Fool's thing.
23:42
This is the modern day.
23:45
Chrysler Sebring.
23:47
Yes.
23:49
I see it now.
23:50
You're right.
23:50
Oh my God.
23:52
That is just, but I'm still not sold on the Integra.
23:56
You're not saying you're right.
23:57
It's Integra.
23:58
It that's Integra.
24:00
It's so large.
24:02
And so I'm like, uh, it's an accord because the Integra and the civic and
24:05
even the civics gotten bigger and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
24:08
But the other day, and I think Tonya and I were together when
24:11
we saw this brand new Acura.
24:13
TLX.
24:14
Was it TLX or TSX?
24:16
Whatever it was.
24:18
It's got hips like a Audi RSS four or RSS six.
24:21
Avan.
24:22
It was low.
24:23
It was wide.
24:24
I don't care how long it was.
24:26
Big wheels, you know, tinted windows.
24:28
I was like, that is hotness right there.
24:31
I was like, and I.
24:32
I see that a lot about Hondas, especially the more modern ones.
24:35
I'm like, ah, they're okay.
24:36
Couldn't stop looking at, especially those hips that they
24:39
put on that car, those flares.
24:40
And I'm like, it's all factory.
24:42
And I'm like, damn, that's a good looking car.
24:44
So I would give that a second thought.
24:47
If I was thinking about a sports sedan right now, I guess it is a TLX.
24:52
I don't think they make the TSX anymore.
24:54
No, I think they discontinued that, that whole, and then wasn't there
24:57
an ILX for a while, which was.
24:59
Yeah.
24:59
The precursor to the trash.
25:01
Yeah.
25:02
Frickin trash.
25:03
It was based on the civic.
25:04
Well, skipping right along to new EVs and concepts.
25:07
I want to call back our discussion about Fisker from last month.
25:10
Remember how they were having issues and the ocean is having problems and all these
25:14
recalls and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
25:16
Fisker always has issues.
25:17
That's just like their natural state.
25:19
And the three people that bought them, I feel so bad, right?
25:22
And again, I don't know, is this Jalopnik having some fun with us or what?
25:26
But you're hearing about, you know, three new cars.
25:29
And then there's an article on the other side saying Fisker is running out
25:32
of options as all stock trading halts.
25:34
And I'm like, wait, what the hell is going on?
25:37
Apparently they're going to be possibly claiming bankruptcy soon.
25:40
So, and that's just it.
25:41
And that's where it was like.
25:42
Wait, they're going to come out with three new cars.
25:44
They can't get the ocean right.
25:46
And the company's basically falling apart.
25:47
A lot of misinformation.
25:49
So I have a hard time believing anything that comes out in April.
25:52
Maybe that's why it's such a slow news month because some of it's
25:55
just so unbelievable right now.
25:57
Well, according to Business Insider, there's four automakers
26:00
in talks to buy them out.
26:01
Really?
26:02
Who's on the docket?
26:03
General Motors is always on the docket.
26:04
Does not indicate.
26:06
They'll buy any losing company.
26:07
Was that Nikola?
26:08
Remember that one?
26:09
Yeah.
26:09
Oops.
26:10
Whoopsie.
26:11
Well, I wanted to take a moment to talk about wheels and our friends over
26:16
at ESC Carbon have recently released pictures of the fully formed E3.
26:21
We've been waiting a while to see, so they're able to put that into production.
26:25
When you look at it, it's a multi spoke wheel, kind of reminiscent
26:27
of a early 2000s, uh, wheel.
26:29
BBS type style, like an RKRX, that kind of thing.
26:32
And that's a cool wheel for an all one piece carbon fiber wheel.
26:35
But it got me thinking about wheels on cars these days.
26:39
You know, we had this whole fad for a while where as we know, Tesla
26:43
puts the covers on some actually decent looking wheels and there's a
26:46
lot of, I'm going to call them air quotes, interesting wheels out there,
26:50
wheel designs out there right now.
26:52
I kind of wanted to look at this from the other perspective
26:54
and ask your guys opinion.
26:55
Who do you think has the ugliest wheels on their car right now?
26:58
Which automaker?
26:59
Yeah, which automaker?
27:00
All of them.
27:04
Brad, have you seen some ugly wheels?
27:05
Man, they just keep nailing it.
27:08
Thousand percent ugly wheels.
27:09
I don't know about now, but if we go back in the day, I have
27:14
to say Those stupid double three spoke came on the SN 95 Mustangs.
27:20
Oh yeah.
27:21
You could always tell it was a V six Mustang because it had
27:25
those stupid wheels on them.
27:27
Anything three spoke is just complete track.
27:30
Except for the steering wheel, except for the steering wheels, the drive
27:35
from the legendary R 32 Nissan.
27:38
Well, I was also going to say, I have a sweet spot for the three spoke.
27:42
Not three bolt, like the smart car, the three spoke wheel from the original Viper.
27:46
I thought those wheels look cool, but they're very nineties, right?
27:49
They're very in period appropriate and they look good on that.
27:52
They're very ugly.
27:54
You're blasphemy.
27:55
No, they're three spoke.
27:57
Any wheels that are wrapped in tires are ugly.
28:01
I stand by this statement.
28:03
You know, it really grinds my gears.
28:05
Three spoke wheels blind my ears.
28:09
Um, maybe I'm pointing out the obvious here.
28:11
I think the winner right now, take a look at the cars on the road.
28:14
The new cars on the road.
28:15
I mean, the EVs are trying some really weird stuff, whatever, but
28:19
ugliest wheels on the road right now.
28:21
I'm going to give the award to Kia.
28:23
They're all heinous.
28:25
I actually like some of them.
28:27
Some of the wheels that come on the Telluride, I've seen some pretty wicked
28:30
stuff and the wheels that come on the Hyundai Genesis, I know it's not Kia,
28:34
but some of the wheels that come on the Genesis models are pretty wicked
28:37
looking to one or two, but I think in general, the regular line of wheels that
28:42
they're putting on like the EV six and you know, whatever that sob thing is
28:47
that's running around, they're just all kind of funky and what everybody's doing
28:50
right now is these sort of GTI style.
28:54
Lag in the wind, hyperaluminum with a black inset.
28:59
Like they're just funky looking.
29:01
They don't look good when they're spinning.
29:02
They don't good look when they're still, they're always a kind of dirty.
29:06
And I'm just like, Oh, these wheels are gross.
29:09
I get it.
29:10
They almost look like steel wheels that they painted to make
29:13
look like they've got spokes.
29:15
Exactly.
29:15
They do this for aerodynamics.
29:18
For a million reasons.
29:19
Yeah.
29:19
I think we need to pay closer attention and maybe start thinking about.
29:23
Ugly wheel ranking system like who's second place who's got the
29:27
second ugliest wheels out there And there's some humdingers in the
29:30
old days to use an old timey term.
29:32
Oh my god the wheels on the aztec Oh god, complete trash.
29:36
They had branches like little sprouting branches off the spokes Oh, they
29:41
were awful the ronald teddy bear.
29:43
I know there's people that love those.
29:44
There's some those are awesome Those are fantastic.
29:47
The daisy that they had on the beetle.
29:49
Oh, the daisy was pretty.
29:51
There's some winners.
29:52
There's some winners out there for sure.
29:53
The teddy bear was awesome though.
29:55
Stop it.
29:55
That was making a comeback too.
29:57
Well, Brad, it's time we move on to lost and found your favorite section where you
30:01
scour the internet looking for the newest old piece of junk on dealership lots.
30:05
If I had to guess the Ford GT, I guarantee the Ford GT still out there.
30:10
Don't give us any of these, more of these Jetta's and stuff, man.
30:13
You got to give us cool cars.
30:14
That's what I was going to say.
30:15
Those are the cars that are going to still be out there.
30:17
No max price, unless Daniel bought them.
30:20
I don't know what he's got up at the mountain.
30:22
Yep.
30:23
Those two Jetta's.
30:24
One diesel, one VR6 are still for sale at Alexandria Volkswagen.
30:30
Nope.
30:31
No, thank you.
30:32
Yeah, the rest of this is trash.
30:33
Well, I love this next one, Brad, because you know how we talked
30:36
about Dodge Darts for so long.
30:38
We've talked about Vipers that are still for sale.
30:40
You can pick up an NSX or two every now and again.
30:43
But this next one, just read the headline.
30:46
What?
30:46
How is that possible?
30:48
Sold negative What the fuck?
30:49
How do you sell a neg So they bought one back.
30:52
So I'm guessing it was a lemon.
30:54
I haven't read it yet.
30:55
Well, let's bring our listeners up to speed.
30:57
Negative one.
30:58
Chrysler 200 last month.
31:00
Stellantis sold negative one.
31:02
Chrysler 200s.
31:03
So they sold two and bought back three.
31:06
How did they do this?
31:07
This is brilliant.
31:10
That is the burning question.
31:11
How does an automaker sell a negative car?
31:14
Maybe this is like that Karen moment where it's like they bought it.
31:18
They drove it about 10 feet.
31:20
They said, I need to speak to the manager.
31:22
They sold a negative car.
31:24
How does it want to make yourself less than zero cars?
31:26
Maybe it's just clickbait.
31:27
Well, it's the Autopian.
31:28
So of course it is.
31:29
Yeah, it's bullshit.
31:30
Yeah.
31:31
I think this is my April fool's thing.
31:33
Get this trash out of here.
31:34
Clickbait go away.
31:35
The story is stupid.
31:37
Well, we do have a legitimate uncool wall nominee.
31:41
I present for your consideration the 2003 Kia Sedona GT Cabriolet.
31:48
This was ahead of its time.
31:50
It's a three row.
31:55
If this came out when the Nissan Murano cross cabriolet came out, they
32:00
would have sold Tens of them, tens of them, tens of them, they would
32:06
have sold more than negative one.
32:08
I can say that.
32:09
Oh, I love the suicide doors on this too, right?
32:12
So somebody did this in their backyard.
32:16
How unsafe is this vehicle?
32:18
There's some structural integrity lost in this vehicle.
32:22
Is this an e prepared car?
32:23
Is that what this is?
32:24
Now you got to cut the windshield off a lemon's car.
32:26
It's got to be, it's got to be, but you know, I really, really liked the
32:30
fact that we went retro with this and put a hood ornament on the key.
32:34
Poke them horns.
32:40
Oh man, this is terrible.
32:42
Terrible.
32:42
I love how they mounted the hood ornament.
32:45
They're turbo clamps.
32:46
Yeah, they got it from Advance Auto.
32:48
I bet they hit the steer and killed it.
32:51
And they're like, well, what are we going to do with his horns?
32:53
Let's mount it on the car.
32:54
It's a Kia and the wheels are ugly.
32:56
Am I wrong?
32:58
Yeah, I didn't even notice the wheels.
33:00
I have to go back to that.
33:00
They're so ugly.
33:01
You don't pay attention to them.
33:04
I couldn't get past the convertible.
33:06
What do you think, Tanya?
33:07
Would you drive this stellar piece of automotive design?
33:10
Yeah, I'd drive it right off the side of a cliff and jump out of it in a second.
33:14
I love that they put.
33:15
Music to this, R.
33:16
Kelly's bump and grind.
33:18
That makes it better.
33:19
Yeah.
33:20
I wouldn't get in this death trap.
33:22
Well, would you get in this or our next vehicle?
33:25
Because of its recent recalls, because we would be remiss
33:31
if we didn't talk about.
33:35
Before we jump into Tesla, have you noticed after 44 drive thrus that we have
33:41
begun to really split hairs on Tesla?
33:44
Tesla has become its own segment on the show.
33:47
I remember when it was just, we would be remiss.
33:51
And then it became Teslagate, and then it became stupid shit that Elon does, and
33:56
now the Cybertruck has its own segment by itself, because it is a spectacle.
34:02
Well, there's some other non Cybertruck stuff in here.
34:04
Lies.
34:05
But the Cybertruck is obviously the new, quote, hotness, so it's top of mind.
34:11
Finally, after 16, 000 years, it's in production.
34:17
16 minutes after being in production.
34:19
Oh my God.
34:20
It's already recalled.
34:23
Oh my God, this is so fucking stupid.
34:27
And you know, it's like a silly recall.
34:29
I mean, it's a serious thing, but it's also silly at the same time.
34:33
When we've gone through this, we've seen this before.
34:36
It's the reason why.
34:38
All cars now have the little clips on the floor mats.
34:42
It's because unfortunately Toyota had to learn this painful lesson of what can
34:46
happen in the footwell if something lodges and gets the accelerator pedal stuck.
34:53
The car keeps accelerating.
34:54
But Tesla marches to the beat of their own drum.
34:57
Just want to point out the Germans had carpet clips in the nineties.
35:01
It's not new.
35:01
Yes.
35:03
But it wasn't until there was a problem.
35:05
Yeah, but their carpet, their carpet clips cost 15, 000.
35:09
Well, it's the little nubs underneath the carpet that have been, you know,
35:13
solidly holding carpet in place for ages.
35:15
They're bolted in from underneath the car.
35:18
And then the only way to get them out is engine out.
35:20
Yeah, a hundred percent.
35:21
Service position for your format is engine out.
35:23
Well, in a beetle, yes.
35:24
Everything is engine out in a beetle.
35:26
Well, the sad thing is you'd think that the little things like this.
35:31
And this isn't a format issue yet.
35:34
If this is worse, this is much worse.
35:36
No, this is an accelerator pedal falling off.
35:38
It's not the whole pedal though.
35:40
Just the cover, just the slide on cover.
35:43
And apparently it's a glue issue, but the glue, the temperature, I think
35:49
something, I don't even remember.
35:51
Elmer's that's what's wrong.
35:54
Yes.
35:55
They left home Depot.
35:56
Cause shit was too expensive.
35:58
They went to Target and bought Elmer's from the school supply section, and
36:03
then they're using that on this pedal.
36:05
It was back to school sales at the beginning of the year.
36:08
It was discount, no tax on the glue.
36:12
Yeah, they bought out the entire, like, Southwest region.
36:16
It literally says on the bottle, Elmer's Blue All.
36:21
It's pretty straightforward.
36:22
It glues all right.
36:23
Barely not your, whatever this accelerator pedal is even made of.
36:27
I don't even know.
36:28
Probably plastic, maybe a little bit of stainless steel left
36:32
over pieces that they reformed.
36:34
There's no wood in there.
36:34
No wood in this one.
36:36
I know I read somewhere that they were attributing it to in the
36:40
production line, something with the temperature, the adhesive wasn't right.
36:44
And then, so it didn't set or something.
36:47
So basically when you're mashing down the accelerator pedal, you end up
36:51
sliding the cover off and then it jams into what would be, hold on a second.
36:57
What kind of troglodyte.
36:59
It's pressing the accelerator pedal like Donkey Kong.
37:03
Hey, hey, hey, some of us have big feet and we can't control it.
37:08
No, no, no.
37:09
Okay, because to the point of the Toyota incident, I am using the inappropriate
37:14
rubber floor mats in one of my vehicles.
37:17
Meaning that they don't clip in to the clips, and I am constantly
37:22
actually pulling the floor mat back sometimes while I'm driving just
37:26
by virtue of my feet being there.
37:28
I'm not even doing anything, but by virtue of my feet being
37:31
on top of it, there's enough.
37:32
I'm not pressing down on it, but it does slide forward constantly.
37:36
So I could see.
37:37
that a loose little bullshit cover on the pedal, especially it's the type
37:41
of pedal that's on the floor, then you kind of have that weird motion
37:46
of you making your foot go up anyway.
37:48
So I think it would be easy to have that cover come off and then it jams
37:52
into what would be the transmission tunnel if it had one, right?
37:55
So that center console piece like jams in there and it keeps Accelerator
38:00
depressed and somebody apparently had it happen to them and they hit a pole.
38:04
I thought they called that ludicrous mode.
38:07
I don't know if the cyber truck has ludicrous mode, but that
38:10
was ludicrous to have happened.
38:11
Well, I love the fix.
38:13
Can we get to the fix?
38:14
The fix.
38:15
Is on par with everything, right?
38:18
I mean, I personally would love to spend 100, 000 on a car to have
38:22
the glue not set correctly and then have the fix be a fricking rivet.
38:27
I would like to point out, I did research just like the Model Y.
38:31
You can go to your local Home Depot, aisle 13, bay 26 and buy a packet
38:38
of rivets for like a couple dollars.
38:41
Home Depot!
38:41
Does a rivet work?
38:43
Sure.
38:44
Is it aesthetically pleasing anymore?
38:46
I mean, not to say that it was to begin with without the rivet.
38:49
The rivet could be an improvement.
38:50
I don't know.
38:51
Or for the course with the Cybertruck, but you know.
38:53
You just spent a hundred thousand dollars on a car and
38:56
that's how they're gonna fix it?
38:58
They're just gonna be like, oh yeah.
39:00
I mean, not to open this can of worms again, but this is what I keep saying.
39:03
Everybody oohs and ahs over these vehicles.
39:06
And the.
39:07
Build quality is variable from car to car, and it is not on par with
39:13
the hundred year old manufacturers.
39:15
Pick one.
39:15
Chevy, Ford, Fiat, Audi, Volkswagen, Porsche.
39:19
It doesn't matter.
39:20
You can't get these wet.
39:21
Let's talk about build quality.
39:23
Jesus.
39:24
So they keep focusing on car washes or washing your car.
39:28
But I'm like, so what happens when it rains and the car gets wet?
39:32
It's shorting out the electronics temporarily.
39:35
And you gotta like wait hours for it to reboot.
39:38
Doesn't rain that often in California where they build the Cybertruck?
39:41
Well, no, they built it in Austin, didn't they?
39:44
Again, does it rain in Austin?
39:45
Yes, it rains in Texas.
39:47
Lies, lies, fake news.
39:50
In the hill country, actually, where it's quite green, they do get some water.
39:54
Lies!
39:55
And when the hurricanes come through, they get the remnants of the rain from those.
39:59
At any rate, I couldn't find it.
40:00
I thought I saw something going into the whole car wash thing.
40:03
Where it's like, don't take it to the car wash.
40:06
And make sure you take it to the car wash that it has to be some sort of
40:09
like, no drive mode or something.
40:11
And it basically like, shuts down.
40:13
It like, locks the charge port.
40:15
It disengages.
40:17
It disengages.
40:17
The wipers apparently like what is what and then it like locks
40:22
the doors and all this stuff and then there's like a role mode.
40:25
So it's distant.
40:26
I don't know.
40:26
Anyway, but the article was a guy I think who washed out the bed and
40:31
then he ended up like bricking the truck for a while and turned back on.
40:35
And I thought I saw something going into that.
40:38
Where they showed, I guess water was going under the bed somehow
40:41
and then getting like stuck in like frame rails or something like that.
40:44
And then I guess whatever, wiring maybe?
40:47
I don't know, don't quote me.
40:48
I saw it briefly and I didn't, I closed it and I don't remember
40:51
how to find the article again.
40:52
But I'm just like, that's wild!
40:54
To your point, it's like, There's so many other cars on the road that can get wet.
41:00
It's not a problem.
41:01
Like, I think we've figured out how to send a car through a car wash
41:05
and not have it be catastrophic.
41:08
What again?
41:10
You spent a hundred thousand dollars on a car that you can't get wet.
41:14
You can't drive after men like, Oh, is it a Gremlin?
41:20
You don't, you don't.
41:21
Get it wet after midnight and not the AMC.
41:23
Yeah.
41:23
The eighties movie, the gremlin.
41:25
Oh my God.
41:26
Two is taking their cyber truck to the car wash though, because
41:29
do you just wash stainless steel?
41:31
I thought you just kind of wipe it down with a diaper or something.
41:34
Well, no.
41:35
So if you go on Tesla's website, there's a whole like.
41:38
Page scrolling of how to clean the exterior of the thing.
41:43
And it's like, don't use this.
41:44
Don't use that.
41:46
Don't do it in the sunlight.
41:47
Don't do it after you've eaten.
41:49
Wait 30 minutes.
41:56
You can only do it on the day of the full moon.
41:59
In Feb tober.
42:01
Yeah.
42:01
Like what?
42:02
There's like wild notes in here too.
42:04
And this is.
42:05
From the Tesla website.
42:06
Okay.
42:06
This is legit stuff.
42:08
Don't use alcohol on the headlights.
42:10
I'm like, why?
42:11
What are the headlights made out of?
42:13
Alcohol evaporate.
42:14
Because your beer will rust the stainless steel.
42:16
Ah, okay.
42:17
Wrong alcohol.
42:18
There was also a thing in here that was like, Oh, if I could find it again,
42:21
it was like, yeah, yeah, here it is.
42:23
Do not aim water hoses.
42:25
Okay, so like if you're washing your car and you have the garden hose, right?
42:28
It's like, don't aim the water hose directly at the windows.
42:31
Wait, aren't these those indestructible bulletproof things?
42:34
Windows?
42:34
I can't aim a garden hose at?
42:38
Like what?
42:39
Now I don't think it's the glass itself because then it's
42:42
The door or the hood seals.
42:44
I think they leak.
42:45
So don't get it wet, basically.
42:47
There's a higher probability of Apex seals in an RX 7 sealing better than
42:53
those window seals in the Cybertruck.
42:56
Apparently.
42:57
And then it killed me at one of the things, like, the recommended way to,
43:00
like, to clean the stainless steel.
43:02
Again, this is from Tesla.
43:05
Unreal.
43:05
I know you've written some articles about how to clean your car,
43:09
and we've had the wax people on.
43:11
I feel like even if you're not the most into detailing, you know this.
43:17
And given it's stainless steel.
43:19
It said that you use a circular motion.
43:22
And I'm like, have you ever cleaned a stainless steel pot?
43:29
If you have anything abrasive, a circular motion.
43:33
Oh my God.
43:34
I mean, even on a painted car, you don't really want to use a circular motion
43:38
in case there's something gritty there because you will leave swirl marks.
43:42
You always go.
43:44
Quote unquote with the grain, so it's less noticeable.
43:49
Oh my God.
43:51
You know, since we're talking about cleaning, I included
43:54
an additional article here.
43:56
It goes back to the, you know, why the trucks are rusting because it's
43:58
from February and it's not about that.
44:00
I included it because I wanted you guys to see these pictures.
44:03
I don't know if somebody urinated on this vehicle, vomited on this vehicle or what.
44:09
But this is why they look terrible.
44:12
Like, all the pictures in this article from Wired, oh my
44:16
god, this thing looks so bad.
44:18
Awful.
44:19
Oh yeah, no, no, no.
44:20
Absolutely awful.
44:21
It looks like your appliance is in your like, this was the first thing I said.
44:24
Do you not know when you have water splashing, like, the front
44:28
of the dishwasher or your stove?
44:30
Because it happens, people.
44:32
You go reach for the towel that's either hanging on your dishwasher
44:34
or, you know, bar or on the stove.
44:37
Oven door bar.
44:38
Water hits the surface and it looks like garbage after two seconds.
44:42
I will say this.
44:43
Now, this is an argument for something that I just recently tested.
44:46
So if you go back into the April catalog, you'll see that Don from Garage Style
44:50
and I did an episode with Dan Williams from Owner's Pride and their Eco Wash.
44:56
Is designed for low water conditions and all this kind of stuff.
45:00
And I was like, you know, I'm going to try it until I understand it and get a bottle
45:04
and read it and kind of mess with it.
45:06
I'm not going to really understand how it works.
45:07
I tell you what, I think that soap is perfect for the Cybertruck.
45:11
And here's why.
45:12
I did it on two different vehicles and I was absolutely astounded by the results.
45:16
Literally a capful, and I'm talking about like a Pepsi bottle capful
45:21
that you would get on like, you know, out of the 7 Eleven case, full of
45:24
this soap to three gallons of water.
45:26
Rinse the car if you want, don't, it doesn't matter how it comes out the same.
45:31
I washed our van and I washed the Jeep.
45:34
using the eco wash with only three gallons of water.
45:36
I didn't rinse the car before, did the whole thing, used up all
45:40
three gallons of water that I had, didn't rinse it afterward.
45:42
It looked as clean as if I had done it the traditional way or went to the car wash.
45:47
Unbelievably good.
45:48
One of those things that until I tried it, I wasn't convinced, but
45:52
in the case of the Cybertruck, I could see something like eco wash.
45:56
being perfect for it.
45:57
There is a section on waterless wash.
46:00
You got a hand wash using a non ionic pH neutral waterless wash with
46:05
a high quality microfiber towel.
46:07
It sounds like that waterless shampoo.
46:09
And I was thinking the same thing again, three gallons of
46:12
water to a cap full of soap.
46:13
I did both cars, three gallons a piece.
46:16
But I was thinking about it.
46:17
If you're in a situation in California where water conservation is important,
46:20
you know, they have drought conditions.
46:21
Don't water your lawn.
46:23
Don't use a car wash.
46:24
The eco wash is perfect.
46:25
But then obviously taking it to the next logical conclusion, if you really can't
46:29
get the cyber truck wet, sort of like washing a cat, I suppose this is perfect.
46:34
This is something I would recommend in all seriousness to cyber truck owners to use.
46:40
I recommend getting rid of the truck.
46:42
Or you could just.
46:43
Spot clean using a glass cleaner and microfiber cloth.
46:47
Spray the glass cleaner and wipe in a zigzag motion.
46:51
Oh my god.
46:52
So many rules with this truck.
46:57
It's wild.
46:57
And basically this and the other rules are immediately clean the surface.
47:01
So bird poop's on it.
47:03
Pull over.
47:05
Get your glass cleaner and zigzag it off.
47:08
Don't want to create scratches because it's going to scratch.
47:10
Now there is a solution to this problem.
47:12
Don't buy a cycle.
47:13
It's called paint.
47:14
It's called the 5, 000 clear coat.
47:17
Oh my god.
47:18
Why?
47:19
It's not standard.
47:20
You can't rattle can it?
47:22
You could, why not?
47:22
You could paint it.
47:23
Although it might short out.
47:25
I don't know what happens with the paint.
47:28
Well, I would say paint over the glass too, just seal
47:30
everything in and call it a day.
47:33
Prevent any future leaks.
47:34
I think the best solution is to trade your Cybertruck in for a Rivian.
47:38
A Fisker.
47:39
I don't know.
47:39
But in other non Cybertruck related news, do you remember when they talked about
47:43
how we're going to make the people's car?
47:45
Let me guess.
47:46
The Tesla 2.
47:47
The Model 2 at 25, 000 for everyone.
47:51
Electric Chargers for all.
47:54
Lies.
47:55
In fact, it is lies.
47:58
Because now they're basically apparently abandoning it or quote
48:01
putting it on the back burner.
48:03
That's code for we're not doing it anymore.
48:05
In order to focus on their robo taxis using the same platform.
48:11
Okay, yeah, whatever, sure.
48:14
Meanwhile, the price of all the rest of the Teslas went up again,
48:16
and next month they'll put them on sale and then they'll jack them back
48:18
up again and all that hokey pokey.
48:20
Well, they are going through something at the moment because they just laid
48:27
off 10 percent of their global staff.
48:29
That hurts.
48:30
The worst is, and there's quite a lot of, I think it's like 14, 000 people.
48:35
Wow.
48:35
Lot of people.
48:37
And because it's Elon and he's, I'm sorry, total ass hat.
48:41
I wouldn't want to be under him.
48:44
Some people found out that they had been laid off when they arrived at
48:47
work, and their badge didn't work.
48:49
Wow, that is a bold move, Cotton.
48:53
And got escorted away.
48:55
That's how you let you're an asshole.
48:57
But we already knew this when COVID happened and the whole you can work
49:01
from home and then you can't and then the ultimatums that these people that
49:04
move they had to move back and all this crap that he did and then they
49:07
handled it like a total jerk, you know, in the communications with the people.
49:11
I'm like, okay, I'm not surprised by this, but what a D move.
49:15
Can you imagine?
49:16
Suddenly it's like what?
49:17
There's a layoff?
49:18
And it's me?
49:20
What?
49:20
Yeah, I could see, yeah, I could see you coming up to the door
49:23
with your co worker, talking.
49:24
It was like, man, did you hear about those layoffs?
49:26
Man, I'm so glad that I still have my job.
49:29
Hey, that's weird.
49:30
My badge doesn't work.
49:30
Hey, try yours.
49:31
Does your badge work?
49:32
Oh, yours works.
49:33
Oh, just let, let me in.
49:34
Oh, they won't let the, why, why can't I get no tailgating?
49:43
Tesla's like the weirdest reality television show I've ever seen.
49:46
It just every day, something it's weird.
49:49
It's all two sided too.
49:51
It's like, Oh, record sales.
49:53
We're selling so many.
49:54
We've built so many.
49:55
And then you lay off all your people and then you're
49:57
lowering prices and your stock.
49:58
It's going down, but that's because you're doing so well.
50:01
I, I don't understand.
50:02
It's not usually in good times of economic prosperity that people go, you know what?
50:06
Let's just cut 10 percent of the workforce for funsies.
50:08
Although who knows, maybe that is what happens.
50:11
He's probably sitting around in a bar with his executive buddies.
50:13
Just like, you know, it'd be really good.
50:15
You know how we could like really help the bottom line.
50:18
You know, they say that like HR and salary and stuff is your worst expense.
50:22
Let's just cut half or 10 percent of the workforce.
50:25
Oh, yeah, that sounds great.
50:26
Let's do it.
50:27
Let's do it.
50:28
The end.
50:28
I mean, I feel bad for those people.
50:29
Of course.
50:30
Hopefully, they're able to move on to something bigger and better.
50:33
Well, you have, once again, successfully lowered my expectations.
50:37
Lowered expectations.
50:39
Oh my god.
50:44
I'm watching this video, and it's pretty good.
50:46
Couldn't do this with a Cybertruck.
50:48
Nope, you sure couldn't.
50:49
And since we're talking about washing cars, I thought this was appropriate.
50:53
This is a great April Fool's prank.
50:55
She's getting pissed.
50:58
So we have a link in the show notes to this.
50:59
It's a video of these guys.
51:01
Basically just messing with this lady who's washing her Range Rover
51:05
at a self car wash place and they keep throwing milk on the car and she
51:08
thinks some birds shitting all over it.
51:10
I mean, is it milk?
51:12
It's milk.
51:12
Yeah, it is a riot busted out laughing watching this thing.
51:16
And normally I don't go for this kind of stuff.
51:18
I was like, Oh, this is lame, whatever.
51:20
But I actually thought this was super funny.
51:22
I get it now why they have to.
51:24
Because my cars are old, I don't have all this fancy technology.
51:27
I didn't think about it on the Cybertruck.
51:29
Why they have to disengage the wiper blades, because it probably, because
51:32
just like her Range Rover here, she keeps setting the windshield wipers off.
51:36
It's got the auto sensing windshield wipers.
51:39
The Cybertruck could probably blow the whole thing up.
51:42
I was wondering what would happen if you poured milk on a Cybertruck.
51:45
Would it just melt?
51:46
You'd have to wipe it real quick to not mess up the stainless steel.
51:50
How gross would that look?
51:52
It would look like vomit.
51:54
Well, switching gears, I got to ask you guys one more time.
51:58
No.
51:58
Did y'all watch the Ferrari movie?
52:00
Not yet.
52:01
There's a Ferrari movie?
52:02
Oh, man.
52:03
All right.
52:04
So here's the plan.
52:05
You guys aren't going to watch it.
52:06
You're not going to take it seriously.
52:07
I'm going to watch it.
52:09
You're not going to answer my question.
52:10
Who is this movie about?
52:11
I'm going to take it to higher authorities.
52:13
You know what I'm going to do?
52:13
I'm going to call up John Somers, the motoring historian, maybe
52:16
my friend, William Ross, and see if we can review this movie.
52:19
How about that?
52:20
Oh, I didn't know you wanted to review it in the middle of this segment.
52:23
I wanted your opinion.
52:25
That's good enough.
52:26
Okay.
52:26
Well then we have homework for the next month.
52:29
Speaking of Ferraris.
52:30
This could have gone anywhere.
52:31
This could have been in Stellantis News.
52:33
This could be Florida Man.
52:35
But I think it finds its home here in Lowered Expectations.
52:37
I mean, this is a brickin tragedy.
52:39
Right?
52:40
This is a crime.
52:41
This is a capital crime.
52:42
The guy should be thrown in jail.
52:45
Headline reads, not that a headline has never started this
52:48
way before, dealership employee.
52:50
24 year old.
52:51
Dealer employee, I repeat.
52:53
Dealership employee reportedly wrecks a Ferrari F 40 in a tunnel.
52:59
Who in their right mind gives the keys to a $3 million low production Ferrari.
53:08
To a 24 year old.
53:09
Lawrence Stroll.
53:10
Yeah.
53:11
I don't care that the driving laws in Europe are stricter and
53:14
more this and more that than they are here in the United States.
53:17
Nobody in their right mind is going to give a 20 year old, unless
53:20
they're a YouTuber, that can afford the car, the keys to an F 150.
53:24
40!
53:25
I mean, come on!
53:26
Imagine a dude's like, Hell yeah, I'm gonna let it rip!
53:29
I'm gonna hear it through the tunnel!
53:31
Meanwhile, it stepped out on him, didn't know what the hell to do with
53:33
500 horsepower in a car that weighs nothing, and put it in the wall.
53:38
Sounded hella good!
53:39
For the gram.
53:41
Yeah.
53:42
This is criminal because this car is trashed.
53:44
They say they're going to repair it.
53:46
At whose expense?
53:47
The deal is sure.
53:47
They must have a massive insurance policy on it.
53:50
He had to have spun.
53:51
Look at how it bent the door.
53:53
Remember this is a carbon Kevlar tub.
53:55
The whole car is like specialty, you know, whatever the rear wheel is
53:59
cocked in like reverse stance, bro.
54:02
He must've been going quick.
54:04
And he spun and hit hard.
54:05
This car is no longer three million dollars.
54:08
No, this car is 30 bucks.
54:10
So what the dealership is going to have to pay a lot more than
54:13
just fixing the car, they're going to have to make this guy whole.
54:16
It's going to cost them the value of the car to rebuild this.
54:19
And I love the comments.
54:21
V8 Ferrari in the tunnel.
54:22
Who could resist?
54:23
I'm like, okay, man, let's be a little bit more mature about this for a second.
54:27
Wait a minute.
54:27
You're looking at the comments and expecting maturity.
54:30
Your first mistake.
54:32
I know I couldn't help but scroll down.
54:34
It's that morbid curiosity.
54:36
You know, it's like, what are the trolls saying?
54:39
Here's another question.
54:40
So this car was going to go for sale or something, right?
54:44
It's three plus million dollars.
54:47
Why are you driving it to the trailer?
54:50
You make a very good point, Tanya.
54:52
Even in Europe, this car would have been on the back of a
54:54
lorry in a closed compartment, completely cleaned, ready to go.
54:58
Yeah.
55:00
Something's fishy here.
55:01
Maybe this was an insurance payout deal.
55:03
You know, like the guy who drove the Veyron into the, in the lake.
55:07
Yeah.
55:07
And the Everglades.
55:08
I'm not saying it was that, I mean, that's all just conjecture, but to
55:12
your point, yeah, if this car was being transported to auction in the States,
55:16
this would have been in a closed vehicle.
55:18
Under lock and key.
55:20
You would never want to risk this happening or somebody
55:22
else hitting you, right?
55:24
Yeah.
55:24
It's wild.
55:25
Unless he stole it and went for a joyride.
55:27
I don't know.
55:28
Could be.
55:28
Un reeking believable is what it is.
55:30
So another one bites the dust, unfortunately.
55:33
We're gonna fix it.
55:34
I got to bring up this next thing because it has come up on our
55:37
discord is come up in conversation.
55:39
I have decided there's a new category of car and it's called
55:43
the ultimate highway hooptie.
55:45
And maybe this is a phenomena on the east coast.
55:48
Let me correct me if I'm wrong.
55:49
You've driven the beltways.
55:50
You've been around the metropolitan areas.
55:52
And my wife pointed this out to me.
55:54
Are all the hoopties on the beltway, always a Nissan.
55:57
There's actually a montage video.
55:59
It's amazing.
56:02
Oopty Nissan's on the byways and they're all like flapping panels and just hoods.
56:08
They're bent and crab walking.
56:10
They're garbage.
56:11
Every Nissan is just an Ultima.
56:12
It's like, it's the regular, you have the regular Ultima.
56:17
Tima, you've got the Altima, the pickup truck, you've got the HVAC in
56:22
Altima, , you've got the Paul Walker Altima, you've got the Jarret's Altima,
56:29
They're all trash.
56:30
It's sort of like the PT Cruiser spotting.
56:33
And then there's those, the other Camry corners where every Camry has a bashed in
56:37
left rear bumper, you know, kind of thing.
56:39
And to your point, it seems to be ultimas more than anything, maybe.
56:42
'cause that's the only car that Nissan actually sells these days.
56:44
But they're all trash.
56:47
We spotted two on the road the other day.
56:49
They're still out there.
56:50
Look at that underlying quality.
56:53
They're still out there.
56:55
Such rugged, rugged, they are abused and they're still out there.
57:02
So they are rugged.
57:03
They're so terrible.
57:05
Rental car agencies won't even pick them up.
57:08
When was the last time you saw a Sentra at like Alamo?
57:12
No, no.
57:13
Didn't we rent a Nissan Murano when we were in Texas?
57:17
But that was like a decade ago.
57:19
No, it wasn't.
57:20
It was like 2017.
57:22
It was 2017.
57:23
Yeah.
57:23
It was a long time ago.
57:25
You are correct, sir.
57:26
Not a decade yet, but getting close.
57:28
I've decided.
57:29
Ultimate Highway Hooptie spotting, we want Nissan pictures, send
57:33
it to us on our Facebook group.
57:34
Not only that, I've also decided, argue with me, tell me I'm wrong.
57:38
Nissans are the people of Walmart of the highway.
57:42
You know what's funny?
57:42
It used to be Kia.
57:43
Well, they had that whole USB hacker thing, right?
57:46
Steal a Kia.
57:47
The Highway Hooptie used to be Kia's.
57:49
Well, I've got some rich people thangs to tell you.
57:53
Before we get into the actual rich people thangs news that Tanya has here
57:57
for us, I found something super cool and I gotta give mad props to Tanya.
58:01
A little show and tell if you're watching the video version of this.
58:04
I finally added a LMP1 Mercedes C9 to my collection and it is the gorgeous.
58:12
This is my now prized jewel in my collection.
58:15
Yes!
58:16
Yeah, it's my precious.
58:18
I gently buff it with Zyma and stuff at night.
58:20
We stopped by this in your old neck of the woods, Brad, where your dad lives.
58:25
There's like a toy exchange.
58:26
They call it there in a shopping Plaza.
58:28
And we popped in just to see what they have, because online they advertise
58:31
like vintage toys, and I was like, Hey, let's go see if they have any model cars
58:34
and, you know, Legos or whatever else, just to see what they have in there.
58:37
So we happened to be in that area together.
58:38
We stopped in and in this glass case, a bunch of just absolutely gorgeous,
58:43
gorgeous one 18th scale model cars.
58:45
And I got a soft spot for that size model car, you know, the nine, 10 inch cars.
58:49
Behind me, you'll see I've got Andy Pilgrims, PF Goodwrench, number
58:53
three, Dale Earnhardt, C5 Corvette, also picked that up at the same
58:56
place when I picked up the Mercedes.
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In the case, he had Porsche 956, you know, Rothman's car, Steve McQueen 917,
59:03
the Ferrari Daytona that actually sold at RM Sotheby's last year at Le Mans.
59:07
I saw that car in person.
59:09
He had the model of that, some muscle cars.
59:11
There were probably about 20 cars in the case.
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And if I could have taken them all home, believe me, I would have, but
59:16
a little bit on the pricey side.
59:18
So I had to settle.
59:19
I almost passed on the Mercedes again.
59:21
I'm going to show it here because it is just so amazing.
59:23
What's so cool about this.
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I've never bought one of these racing legends models, and this is by Exato.
59:30
I have some auto art.
59:31
I have some other stuff.
59:32
That's really nice.
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This is a cut above like the materials that are used on here
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are almost watchmaker quality.
59:39
There's little hinges with these tiny screws.
59:41
And when you open the engine compartment, it's got wires and hoses and fittings.
59:46
Fabrics and just unbelievable amounts of detail, actual springs in the suspension.
59:53
And I mean, it's just really, really wild.
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I sort of guffawed at the price when he told me what he wanted for it.
59:58
And I was like, ah, you know, well, I've spent about that for some other stuff.
1:00:02
We negotiated because I've got the Corvette and I got some other things while
1:00:05
I was there, so he came down on the price.
1:00:07
Super happy to have this.
1:00:09
It's not exactly the livery I wanted because I wanted the factory, basically
1:00:12
Silver Arrows C9, you know, with the green patch over the brake light.
1:00:16
This is the Yves Saint Laurent car.
1:00:17
So it's navy blue and white.
1:00:19
It's still absolutely gorgeous.
1:00:21
It's super heavy too.
1:00:22
I wanted to make sure that I got a good deal.
1:00:24
So I went online.
1:00:26
I want to ask you guys as our resident price guessers here on The
1:00:29
Price is Right Rich People Fangs.
1:00:31
How much do you think that C9 is selling for?
1:00:35
Don't look it up on places like eBay, et cetera.
1:00:37
If you can get it, I'm going to preface this by saying I paid a fraction of
1:00:42
what it's worth right now, like on eBay.
1:00:44
So I have an idea of what I think you paid.
1:00:47
So I got to multiply that up.
1:00:48
Okay.
1:00:49
What do you think I paid?
1:00:50
I think you paid about 250.
1:00:51
I actually paid less than that.
1:00:53
So then I think it's worth.
1:00:55
Or people are asking on eBay, probably 1500.
1:00:58
Ooh.
1:00:59
Okay.
1:00:59
You're double over.
1:01:00
So on the high end, it's half that it's about seven 50 to 800.
1:01:04
And on the low end, it's about six.
1:01:06
Yeah.
1:01:08
So I got a really, really good deal on it.
1:01:10
Now, granted probably worth more if it had the box, but even then, what
1:01:14
was he going to charge me for the box?
1:01:16
I mean, come on, it's a, it's a freaking box, right?
1:01:18
So all the cars were out of the box, but still, if I wanted to
1:01:21
turn around and sell it, it's actually a really good investment.
1:01:23
You know, we did that episode a while back with Patrick strong before the
1:01:26
holidays, talking about investing in model cars and looking at the
1:01:29
higher brands and stuff like this.
1:01:31
This was a great opportunity because this came off an estate sale.
1:01:34
So I'm sure he got it at a good rate.
1:01:36
There's a decent markup there that he obviously made on the car, but
1:01:39
little did I know bringing that home.
1:01:42
I've made money on the car.
1:01:43
If I decide tomorrow, you know, I want to get rid of it.
1:01:45
So I think that's actually really kind of cool.
1:01:47
So don't shy away from the model cars.
1:01:49
If you're looking for an investment, I'm not saying do that instead of
1:01:52
buying a five 50 Maranello, if you can afford it, but think about that to
1:01:55
diversify your motor sports portfolio.
1:01:58
You got it, my man.
1:01:59
You got it.
1:02:00
Super proud of this by super proud.
1:02:02
Do they make one?
1:02:03
That is the silver arrows livery that you, yes, it costs about the same.
1:02:07
So the livery doesn't make a difference because you know where I'm going.
1:02:10
If you could find one that you actually want, you could flip
1:02:14
that car into whatever you want.
1:02:16
Exactly.
1:02:17
So just like real life, buying cars, flipping cars, blah, blah, blah.
1:02:21
Meanwhile, more rich people thangs.
1:02:23
Oh, rich people thangs.
1:02:25
So HANU, we remember them, those futuristic looking
1:02:30
utilitarian little bands.
1:02:32
Yeah, yeah.
1:02:33
Their CEO is also an asshat, apparently, and spent double the
1:02:39
annual revenue on his own private jet.
1:02:42
Out of the company funds.
1:02:44
That's how you do it.
1:02:45
That's how you run a business.
1:02:47
That's how it's done.
1:02:48
And they expect this company to be profitable.
1:02:50
Not at that rate.
1:02:51
How did these people not go to jail?
1:02:53
That's what I want to know.
1:02:54
They do.
1:02:54
They just go to a fancy jail.
1:02:56
The ones with the tennis courts, right?
1:02:59
We're at this high point.
1:03:01
In what I call boutique manufacturers and we're seeing Fisker with problems.
1:03:06
We have the Rivians and we have the canoes and we have all this stuff.
1:03:09
How many of these companies are actually going to survive?
1:03:12
Not this one.
1:03:13
Not at this rate.
1:03:14
That's for sure.
1:03:15
Again, I will be amazed if even Tesla.
1:03:17
As air quotes, good as they're doing, doesn't get absorbed
1:03:21
by somebody in the future.
1:03:22
And I think that's always been part of the plan, right?
1:03:24
Is to sell patented technology, license it to somebody else to
1:03:28
use, which is the Toyota model.
1:03:30
Right.
1:03:31
To your point of them being a software company now there's, and we didn't talk
1:03:34
about it, but there's also rumblings about them licensing their full self driving BS.
1:03:40
That's not full self driving.
1:03:41
So they're going to sell negative one of those two, right?
1:03:47
Oh man.
1:03:48
Well, I guess it's time we go south and talk about alligators and beer.
1:04:08
We're going to go south and talk about this poor man.
1:04:11
Was he a poor mountaineer, barely keeping his family fed?
1:04:13
No, but this poor man, he had his 2023 limited edition Dodge Charger SRT What?
1:04:23
Apparently that's a thing.
1:04:24
Stolen.
1:04:25
The kicker on this was, I don't know, apparently he bought the cars and
1:04:29
it was an homage to his late mother and all this stuff and yada yada.
1:04:33
Well, well, well, well, pause, pause.
1:04:35
How is a Dodge Charger Hellcat Redeye jailbreak An homage to your mother.
1:04:42
I don't know, but it was like Was his mother a trapeze
1:04:45
artist for Cirque du Soleil?
1:04:47
Because that's the only thing that makes sense here.
1:04:49
Like what, what are we Well, homage might not be the right word, but
1:04:53
he said to quote, that the main reason I got the car, Because of
1:04:57
her to represent her again, I ask.
1:05:00
So whatever that I don't know, but somehow a limited edition purple Dodge Charger
1:05:07
SRT Hellcat red eye jailbreak with some vinyl graphics in the paint or something.
1:05:13
What is on the side of the, is that our lady of Guadalupe?
1:05:17
I think it's the statue of Liberty, maybe, or it could be.
1:05:20
I'm not really sure.
1:05:21
Or it's somebody, something completely different.
1:05:23
I don't know.
1:05:23
Is that his mother wearing a tiara?
1:05:25
Or maybe that's a picture of his mom.
1:05:27
Oh, I don't know.
1:05:28
It has a mustache.
1:05:30
It's got a goatee.
1:05:31
That's a guy.
1:05:32
I think that's jesus.
1:05:33
It could be jesus in the thorn of roses on his head I don't know.
1:05:37
There's words too.
1:05:38
Maybe I can't tell that's not the point It's entirely the point No, no, no, no
1:05:44
wait because the point is he got this for his mother Represent his mother
1:05:48
i'm using the word homage Apparently this man had a deep relationship
1:05:53
with his mother so deep that he kept the cup of her ashes In the car.
1:06:00
They were stolen with the car.
1:06:02
But, as he said, the person might not be right, but they had a good heart.
1:06:07
Because they came back and they put the ashes in his mailbox, kept the
1:06:11
car, but they returned the ashes.
1:06:13
Thankfully, the mind's messed up.
1:06:16
He did his due diligence and he's investigated work and he worked
1:06:21
to preserve the evidence by using a shirt to close the lid of the
1:06:27
container, holding the ashes.
1:06:31
Yes.
1:06:32
Very smart.
1:06:33
Very smart.
1:06:33
Mr.
1:06:33
Carter.
1:06:34
Okay.
1:06:34
Colombo to have made the distinction between quote unquote, the urn.
1:06:40
I don't know how these ashes were kept in the vehicle, but I'm going to assume
1:06:44
that they weren't kept in the ashtray.
1:06:46
So telling the difference between the cup holder, again, I say cup holder.
1:06:51
They were in a Carl's jr.
1:06:53
Cup.
1:06:53
My point.
1:06:54
How do you know that it wasn't just cigarettes?
1:06:56
So what I'm saying is.
1:06:58
Collusion to use Brad's term.
1:07:04
This is an inside job Nobody would know unless it was one of his
1:07:07
friends relatives or otherwise.
1:07:09
I think this was an inside job I don't know it only happens in
1:07:14
Florida See that's why the point of this is about the graphics on the
1:07:18
side of the car and the homage to his mother and not About the ashes.
1:07:21
That's what I'm saying This is ridiculous.
1:07:23
I don't know.
1:07:24
I'm convinced.
1:07:25
That's like Jesus in the toast.
1:07:27
That's what it's right there.
1:07:30
I don't know.
1:07:31
I can't tell.
1:07:31
It's hard to see the angle.
1:07:33
The picture's not good.
1:07:33
That's a really dark purple with the black graphic.
1:07:37
It's hard to see.
1:07:37
Nice car.
1:07:38
Jesus in the toast.
1:07:39
All right.
1:07:40
Now we can go up north middle ish of the country to the delightful
1:07:45
Yellowstone National Park.
1:07:46
Yogi Bear lives there.
1:07:48
Where some sort of Karen created
1:07:56
Karen of Yellowstone, I apologize to all the good Karens
1:08:01
out there getting a bad rap.
1:08:03
Apparently this woman exited her vehicle and it was an SUV, so
1:08:07
it fits the Karen stereotype.
1:08:08
Was it a Rage?
1:08:09
Was it a G Wagon?
1:08:10
No, no, it was not.
1:08:12
I think it was a Ford.
1:08:13
Bronco.
1:08:13
Anyway, if you've ever been to Yellowstone, most of the areas
1:08:16
through the national park, Yep.
1:08:17
One lane each way, and there's really not a shoulder in anything, and
1:08:21
there's only wilderness there, right?
1:08:23
Preserved area.
1:08:24
Anyway, so she decided to just, you know, park it, leave it running, because
1:08:28
that's environmentally friendly for the National Park, and then get out to go
1:08:32
do some National Geographic photography.
1:08:34
No, she's not part of National Geographic.
1:08:36
She was going to go take a picture of a little bear, because not only, A,
1:08:41
what you don't do is leave your car running in the middle of the road.
1:08:45
You also B, don't try to approach a bear cub because C, mama's probably around the
1:08:51
corner and you don't want to F with her.
1:08:53
This is you again using the Vulcan logic.
1:08:57
I'm going to start calling you Tuvok in a minute.
1:08:59
Bears are cuddly.
1:09:00
They're warm.
1:09:02
They're fuzzy.
1:09:03
They're friendly.
1:09:04
They have giant teeth and claws.
1:09:07
They're hungry.
1:09:09
We've heard other stories out of Yellowstone.
1:09:13
You're right.
1:09:13
We've heard about Winnie the Pooh and we've heard about the
1:09:16
Bernstein bears, all of them.
1:09:19
Like I've been there.
1:09:20
I've gone through Yellowstone, the Grand Tetons, all that stuff.
1:09:23
And like the wildlife is real.
1:09:25
The bison, they are literally there on the side of the road and you might
1:09:29
actually have to stop for them because they're in the middle of frickin road.
1:09:31
But you don't want to stop for them, you really want to keep going.
1:09:34
That's all real, and the people that get out of their car to approach them, the
1:09:38
stories of them getting gored, or like, catapulted through the air, also real.
1:09:43
Public service announcement!
1:09:44
Do not approach the wildlife!
1:09:46
Do not feed the wildlife!
1:09:47
Stay in your vehicle at all times.
1:09:49
Have you seen Jurassic Park?
1:09:50
Don't get out of the Jeep.
1:09:53
Please win that Darwin award.
1:09:55
Thin the herd, come on.
1:09:57
Survival of the fittest.
1:09:58
If these people are stupid enough to get out of their car and get
1:10:00
killed by a wild animal, then Nothing happened with the animal or anything.
1:10:04
What she did was apparently It was high season, so it caused a huge backup of
1:10:08
people that just sat there behind her.
1:10:11
I'm surprised that somebody with the thing running didn't just move the
1:10:15
car out of the way and just park it down in the ditch and keep going.
1:10:19
This is like the Church of Petrelhead.
1:10:21
Can I get a do doy?
1:10:22
It's like an amen.
1:10:23
Can I get a do doy?
1:10:24
I mean, it's one thing if it, like, she took the keys with
1:10:26
her, but the thing's running?
1:10:28
Like jump in, just push it off a cliff.
1:10:30
Then Karen would call the cops and accuse you of grand theft auto.
1:10:34
Yes, a hundred percent.
1:10:35
Just make sure the ashes aren't in it.
1:10:37
I'd like to speak to the manager.
1:10:38
What you do is you get in it.
1:10:40
You don't actually get fully in it.
1:10:42
You put the emergency brake down and you put it in neutral and you let it go.
1:10:48
Wherever it goes, it goes.
1:10:50
Not full brick move.
1:10:52
Ferris Bueller on the accelerator.
1:10:56
No, you can claim, Oh, she, she must've left it in neutral.
1:10:59
I don't know what happened, Ossifer.
1:11:00
Yeah, that's true.
1:11:01
Well, it's time we go behind the pitfall and talk about British sports news.
1:11:06
And we have some NASCAR news this time.
1:11:08
You know, it's one of these moments where truth is stranger than fiction.
1:11:13
But it's not surprising.
1:11:14
Not at all.
1:11:16
Headline reads, Moonshine Cave found underneath North Wilkesboro Speedway
1:11:21
grandstands, track officials say.
1:11:23
I mean, sure.
1:11:24
I mean, there's nothing more NASCAR than this story.
1:11:27
Exactly.
1:11:28
700 square foot still shine operation that was basically buried under
1:11:34
these Submit grandstands for decades.
1:11:38
I think it's a pretty cool find.
1:11:39
It is kind of cool.
1:11:41
I'm sure Dale Earnhardt Jr.
1:11:42
will do something on Lost Speedways about it soon enough.
1:11:44
But the point is, it does hearken back to stock car racing's original history.
1:11:49
We had Buzz McKim give a presentation about this, about the ties back to
1:11:53
moonshining and the origin of NASCAR.
1:11:56
It goes back and forth.
1:11:57
The races on the beach at Daytona, blah, blah, blah.
1:12:00
You know, there's some revisionist history happening here where it's like,
1:12:02
well, we don't want to talk about the Shiner days and all this kind of thing.
1:12:05
But like you guys, I think this is kind of cool to see.
1:12:08
I wonder how many other NASCAR tracks might have hidden treasures like this.
1:12:13
I recently discovered a story about another track.
1:12:16
Where it was said that at one point, I think it was Henry Ford had
1:12:20
commissioned, you know, the celebration for like 4th of July, the race, they
1:12:23
had stored fireworks under there.
1:12:25
And thank God it was made out of cement because somebody threw a cigarette
1:12:28
that was still like, sort of lit and it sell the fireworks off and
1:12:32
like exploded underneath the cement.
1:12:34
I mean, this was way back in like the 1910s, 1920s kind of thing.
1:12:37
So I mean, crazy, crazy stuff like this.
1:12:40
To your point, not a surprise that there's a still under there or, you
1:12:45
know, illegal alcohol production facility, let's call it that.
1:12:48
I mean, cool fines, right?
1:12:50
Lost history.
1:12:51
Speaking of things that are lost, I don't know about you guys.
1:12:54
I don't often get the time to watch the craftsman truck series.
1:12:57
But you had to have heard about this race at Coda quote, the
1:13:00
driver drove the wheels off of it.
1:13:05
Mechanical failure.
1:13:06
That is a big one.
1:13:07
Basically the whole rear end of the truck fell off and went into the middle of the
1:13:11
track as the car careened into the corner.
1:13:13
So truth sometimes is stranger than fiction.
1:13:16
So if you watch that race and you saw it.
1:13:19
Maybe tell us about the details.
1:13:20
I still have to go back and watch the replay, but I found it extremely amusing.
1:13:24
And, you know, unfortunately stuff happens, stuff breaks, but to have a
1:13:27
whole rear differential axle, it looks like they just purposely took it off.
1:13:32
The truck, that's a big failure.
1:13:34
So somebody, yeah, someone's getting fired.
1:13:37
Exactly.
1:13:38
Well, let's switch to open wheel racing for a little bit.
1:13:40
Would this be considered open wheel?
1:13:43
You know, that's a good one.
1:13:44
That's very true.
1:13:45
So before we get deep into IndyCar and Formula 1, did you guys hear about
1:13:50
the debut of the F1 Arcade in Boston?
1:13:54
No, I had not heard of that.
1:13:56
I've seen stuff about it on Instagram and everything, but I never
1:13:58
really paid much attention to it.
1:14:00
So I thought it was going to be maybe an extension of F1 Boston,
1:14:03
if you guys remember that.
1:14:04
That's the go kart track that became really, really famous.
1:14:07
Back in the early 2000s in Boston, we've been there a bunch of times.
1:14:11
It's a heck of a lot of fun.
1:14:12
They got multiple courses.
1:14:14
It's really big for indoor complicated, multiple floors, all this kind of stuff.
1:14:18
And so I was thinking, Oh, they finally expanded, you know,
1:14:20
trying to be back in the news.
1:14:21
Well, no downtown Boston F1 arcade.
1:14:24
It's a bar Dave and busters.
1:14:26
Yeah, it's me.
1:14:26
Yeah, exactly.
1:14:27
Formula one themed simulators.
1:14:29
So the Toto and Christians.
1:14:31
Toto and Christians, exactly.
1:14:32
I had some friends that are in the sim business kind of check
1:14:35
out these videos that are out.
1:14:36
I happened upon the one from Two Girls, One Formula outside of their kind of
1:14:40
preliminary stuff of getting into Boston.
1:14:42
They did an interesting tour of the facility.
1:14:44
So I watched that.
1:14:45
It was a great way to digest it in quick order and get a feel for, like you said,
1:14:48
the Dave and Busters of Formula One.
1:14:50
So I think if I was in town, I would check it out.
1:14:52
What about you guys?
1:14:53
I would, but it'd probably be a ridiculous amount of people.
1:14:56
Maybe in a little while when things calm down.
1:14:58
Definitely, I would check it out the next time I'm in Boston.
1:15:01
IndyCar has been at the forefront of safety in open wheel racing.
1:15:06
They were the first ones to kind of introduce the halo
1:15:08
and some of the other stuff.
1:15:09
And, you know, we could debate, uh, Formula One, the pinnacle of
1:15:12
technology, but really IndyCar sort of adopted that in Formula One.
1:15:15
Came later IndyCar changed to the windscreen and halo setup, which
1:15:19
they've used for the longest time.
1:15:20
And now it looks like they're getting a whole new windscreen
1:15:23
setup for it looks like next season.
1:15:25
So they're making additional modifications to the IndyCars.
1:15:29
And I guess that will translate through open wheel racing, probably into
1:15:33
formula one here in the near future.
1:15:35
Possibly.
1:15:35
So IndyCar is not governed by the FIA, is it?
1:15:39
No, it is not.
1:15:40
I don't know that Formula One would adopt this similar.
1:15:43
Why are they making this change?
1:15:46
Well, I think it has a lot to do with the episode that we did with Penske's
1:15:50
aerodynamicist, Lauren Sullivan.
1:15:52
And so because of the speeds that are sustained at the Indy 500 and some
1:15:57
of these other oval events that they do, They need to find every possible
1:16:03
way to make the car as slippery as possible, but maintain the safety.
1:16:07
And so the new quote unquote arrow screen is designed to improve the aerodynamics
1:16:12
and the airflow going around the driver.
1:16:14
So it looks a little odd.
1:16:16
It's kind of tankish when you look at it.
1:16:18
I mean, they added vents and they put a lid on the top basically,
1:16:21
because the current windscreen is really like an open wheel windscreen.
1:16:24
So it just comes up and it's open over your head.
1:16:26
Looks like they put a top on it, but then obviously, so you
1:16:29
don't Frickin boil and suffocate.
1:16:32
There's two huge vents.
1:16:34
Yeah.
1:16:35
Push air in.
1:16:36
So basically if they put fenders over the wheels, they've got a prototype.
1:16:39
Gee, I'm glad you brought that up.
1:16:41
Hmm.
1:16:42
Funny how that works.
1:16:44
It's all going to be in dirt's cars soon enough.
1:16:47
Well, let's talk about formula one.
1:16:49
What has happened here over the last month?
1:16:51
Still the Mac show won four out of the five races.
1:16:54
Missed that one because car broke.
1:16:56
Yes.
1:16:57
Carlos won that one, I think, instead.
1:17:01
So good for him.
1:17:02
Let's clarify, didn't Verstappen's Red Bull catch on fire?
1:17:06
Yes, there was a brake issue on basically lap one.
1:17:11
The rear brake was stuck, so it was constantly riding the brake and then
1:17:15
obviously he was having handling issues, didn't realize, or they didn't
1:17:19
communicate what it was, and he came into the pit lane and it got to the
1:17:23
point that it literally exploded into a burst of flames because it got so hot.
1:17:26
And that was it catastrophic failure that put him out of the race on
1:17:30
like lap two or three or something.
1:17:33
Awesome.
1:17:34
And otherwise I think all the other races he's been, you know, 45 seconds
1:17:37
ahead of the next car and like lather rinse repeat from last year.
1:17:41
How exciting.
1:17:42
How fast was he during the sprint race?
1:17:44
He was like 20 seconds ahead in a, or no, like 10 or 15 seconds ahead in a.
1:17:48
20 minute race or something ludicrous.
1:17:51
Yeah, I mean.
1:17:53
Cheating.
1:17:54
I don't know.
1:17:54
There's something going on.
1:17:56
The thing I don't understand is he's so much faster than even Perez.
1:18:01
Not to spoil an upcoming episode, but we're doing a tribute to Ayrton Senna.
1:18:05
And so it commemorates 30 years since his passing, tragic
1:18:09
passing at Temporello at Ipola.
1:18:11
And one of the comparisons that we made on that episode was Verstappen to Senna.
1:18:16
If you look at Senna's 1988 season, he had the perfect run.
1:18:21
He missed all but one.
1:18:23
And that was the event at Monza because that was sort of like giving the nod
1:18:27
to Ferrari because Enzo had passed.
1:18:29
And so Ferrari wins it at Monza and the whole thing, right?
1:18:32
Kind of thinking about it, drawing this parallel between Max And Senna,
1:18:36
which you can make, especially if you extrapolate all the data that
1:18:40
exists and all this kind of stuff.
1:18:41
But the one thing that kept coming up, and I've said this before, and
1:18:44
you guys told I want to put Max in the Haas and see what he does.
1:18:50
Why are you saying?
1:18:52
I don't disagree with you.
1:18:53
I've never said the contrary.
1:18:55
A lot of people have.
1:18:56
I don't think Brad has either.
1:18:58
Shout out to Sam Harrington.
1:19:00
No, but a lot of people have that's so stupid.
1:19:03
That's what I want to see him in another car.
1:19:06
The same argument was made with Senna.
1:19:08
You put the best driver in the best car.
1:19:10
He's always going to win.
1:19:12
Is it the driver?
1:19:13
Is it the car?
1:19:14
If you want to make the decision, put him in a lesser car and see how he does.
1:19:17
If he kicks butt 20 seconds ahead in a Ferrari or in a Mercedes, which we know
1:19:22
is slower or in a Haas, you know, to make the joke, okay, it's for stopping.
1:19:26
He's that good.
1:19:28
You've got to take the Red Bull out of the equation.
1:19:30
But the only way to really prove that is to have everybody driving the same car.
1:19:33
Oh, that's called spec racing.
1:19:35
Oh, that's cool.
1:19:36
Well, I mean, to Brad's point, he's miles ahead of his own teammate
1:19:40
in supposedly the same car, which they're not exactly the same, right?
1:19:44
So that goes back in the history books.
1:19:46
And it's something that we talked about even with Senna, you know, with all these
1:19:49
different teammates outside of Prost, they would make these negotiations.
1:19:53
Like when he was at Lotus, Now, I'm not saying Red Bull doesn't have
1:19:57
deep pockets because they all sort of do, but back in those days he would
1:20:01
demand my car gets the best parts.
1:20:04
The cars are, yes, in look and feel, they are equal, but they are not.
1:20:08
The other car, the backup driver, the number two driver, basically got all
1:20:11
the leftover crap and it met spec and it met qualification and whatever,
1:20:16
but the lead car got the better parts.
1:20:18
I'm not saying it's exactly the same, you know, maybe the tuning is different.
1:20:22
I mean, so many different things in a modern formula one car, but I'm wondering
1:20:26
a, if some of that is happening or B, like I've said before, maybe they're cheating
1:20:31
and nobody's been able to prove it yet.
1:20:33
I don't know.
1:20:33
I mean, I think there's a consistency in him, no doubt that he can consistently.
1:20:39
Just lap after lap hit the same freaking mark exactly the same way.
1:20:42
When you've seen some of the races where he passes the other cars as if they're
1:20:46
parked, and I know there's the DRS and all that stuff, but some of the gap
1:20:50
closing is just extraordinary, and it's like this car is in a league of its own.
1:20:55
It's not even Again, is it the car?
1:20:57
Is it him?
1:20:58
Well, in a straight line, it's the car, because what is his talent?
1:21:01
Pushing the pedal down corner exit speed makes a huge difference.
1:21:05
I mean, yes.
1:21:05
Yes.
1:21:06
In that regard.
1:21:07
Yes.
1:21:07
The corner exit speed, but on some of the traps was a really long straights.
1:21:12
But here's the thing.
1:21:13
10 years from now, 20 years from now, we look back.
1:21:16
We might.
1:21:17
Be talking about Verstappen as the second coming of Senna.
1:21:21
I want to put it under a different lens and I know I've been hating on
1:21:24
Verstappen for a long time, but I've come into this new way of thinking.
1:21:29
Maybe I'm not hating, maybe we are seeing something.
1:21:33
Just like we saw it in the 80s when Senna was coming up, because if you watch some
1:21:37
of those races, he was ballistically fast compared to everybody else.
1:21:40
His closing rates, his exit speeds, it was like he was driving a space shuttle and
1:21:44
everybody else was driving Cinquecentos.
1:21:46
Again, I'm wondering if this is sort of the second coming of Senna.
1:21:50
Did anybody make that same comparison when Lewis Hamilton
1:21:52
was winning all his championships?
1:21:54
No, Lewis Hamilton was constantly compared to Schumacher.
1:21:56
He was in Schumacher's shadow.
1:21:58
And even though Hamilton wanted to be Senna, you know, that whole attitude
1:22:02
and this facade that he put on, that I'm not here to make friends,
1:22:05
and he wanted to emulate Senna.
1:22:07
Senna, he was more like Schumacher.
1:22:08
He cold and calculated and precise and consistent.
1:22:12
Not that passionate driving.
1:22:14
Not that just on the ragged edge lap after lap.
1:22:17
Senna was that way.
1:22:18
He drove at the ragged edge, 13 tenths, every lap, the same.
1:22:22
Just ridiculous with complete disregard for everybody else and the thing is
1:22:27
granted more Formula One drivers come up through karting than ever before
1:22:31
but back then it was super rare and Senna was a karter before he was in
1:22:34
Formula One he went Formula Two and moved up the ranks but Max also comes
1:22:39
from a big history and practice of karting and when you watch him drive.
1:22:42
They all do though everyone.
1:22:44
In the grid right now does.
1:22:46
Well Lance Stroll comes from Mario Kart.
1:22:51
But my point is, it's hard to take the Carter out of the
1:22:55
boy, you know what I'm saying?
1:22:56
And we've seen some of that behavior with Verstappen, so I'm just telling
1:23:00
people, for the haters out there, I think in a couple of years, we'll be
1:23:03
looking back going, Damn, we were here for the beginning of something amazing.
1:23:08
But in the moments where the car hasn't been good, he hasn't done shit.
1:23:12
Very few races.
1:23:13
Where, like, the car was having problems, like, he couldn't, I don't
1:23:17
know if he got into a Haas, because the Haas is inferior, that he could
1:23:21
win, and definitely not by 45 seconds or something ridiculous like that.
1:23:24
I don't think anybody could.
1:23:26
I think what will be more telling, and the jury is out on the car
1:23:30
versus him and all that stuff, because everyone claims the car.
1:23:34
is because Adrian Newey, he designed it.
1:23:36
Well, guess what?
1:23:37
He's leaving Red Bull.
1:23:39
So if he builds the same car somewhere else and now suddenly that gap closes,
1:23:45
now you know it's the car, right?
1:23:47
For sure.
1:23:48
Now if he has to fight somebody for that first place constantly, and
1:23:51
there's real racing going on, because he's out by himself doing time trials.
1:23:56
He's not under pressure to make a mistake.
1:23:58
He doesn't have to make a mistake because he's got somebody breathing down his neck.
1:24:01
Yet he always has something to complain about.
1:24:03
Right?
1:24:03
So that's a whole different dynamic too.
1:24:05
When you're out there just doing hot laps by yourself, the dynamic's different.
1:24:08
So who knows?
1:24:09
So it'll be interesting to see.
1:24:10
We don't know, allegedly.
1:24:12
So it's kind of breaking news today.
1:24:14
Where knew he's going?
1:24:16
It says he wants out and he's gone.
1:24:17
He's gonna even break the contract that he has, I think, to get out.
1:24:21
Because I think technically his contract goes till the end of next season.
1:24:24
But he can, I think, break it and get out so that he could be with
1:24:26
a new team starting next season.
1:24:29
And ready.
1:24:30
Be interesting to see where Well, there was, I think, rumors a while ago about,
1:24:34
Oh, if Hamilton moves and Adrian, like, goes with him, would he go to Ferrari?
1:24:38
Or did daddy wore bucks?
1:24:40
Pony up some big cash to bring him to Aston so his son can look good.
1:24:45
I don't know.
1:24:47
Yeah, that'll be interesting to see because if he clones a red bull for
1:24:50
somebody else or let's say he doesn't sign with a team at all that reeks of suspicion
1:24:55
that maybe they were on the verge of getting caught for doing something, you
1:24:58
know, Lotus esque in this modern time and he doesn't want to be associated with it.
1:25:03
Conspiracy theories!
1:25:05
What?
1:25:05
That's a very NCAA collegiate sports theory there.
1:25:09
Just saying, it could happen.
1:25:11
I suspect he's trying to get out because of the whole Christian Horner drama, and
1:25:14
there's probably more going on there.
1:25:16
That's supposedly the impetus for it, is the whole Horner allegations thing.
1:25:20
He's like, nope, I'm done with this.
1:25:22
Well, let's just cross our fingers and hope he goes to Audi, and I mean
1:25:26
Sauber, and the Germans is coming to destroy everybody, it'd be perfect.
1:25:29
Oh my god, that'd be amazing.
1:25:31
Which, speaking of Audi, apparently they've signed their first
1:25:34
driver and it's not Harlow Sines.
1:25:36
Uh oh.
1:25:36
Even though there's rumors about that, that they're courting him
1:25:39
and this, that, and the other, but they have Nico Hülkenberg.
1:25:42
What?
1:25:43
Like, okay, he's sitting there backmarking in Haas right now.
1:25:46
Like, cool.
1:25:47
Really?
1:25:47
You could've brought Vettel back out of retirement, I don't know.
1:25:50
Probably would've been better.
1:25:51
They still might.
1:25:52
There's a rumor about that too.
1:25:53
They could get bonus out of retirement.
1:25:56
Out of his green state car.
1:25:58
What is there anybody else on the list with a German last name?
1:26:03
Let's start there.
1:26:04
Uh, there are no other German drivers on the grid right now.
1:26:09
That's why they chose Hulkenberg.
1:26:11
It's very simple.
1:26:12
The way Volkswagen works.
1:26:14
They're gonna start there.
1:26:15
Just gonna leave it alone.
1:26:16
But couldn't they still get in Mick Schumacher?
1:26:18
That's not possible.
1:26:19
He's not doing anything right now.
1:26:20
Could.
1:26:20
I don't know who any of the reserve drivers are.
1:26:22
If there's any German ones there might be.
1:26:24
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