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Murder In Moscow: The Chapin Family And The Fox News Interview · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the program. In
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  Speaker 1: this episode, we're gonna hear from Ethan Chapin's parents, who
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  Speaker 1: are discussing how they're honoring their son's memory. So let's
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  Speaker 1: just get right to it. Today's article is from kingfive
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  Speaker 1: dot com and the headline Ethan Chapin's parents share how
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  Speaker 1: they're honoring his memory one year after the Idaho murders.
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  Speaker 1: In this on the record interview, Stacy and Jim Chapin
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  Speaker 1: talk about Ethan's life, processing grief, and Stacy Chapin's new book,
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  Speaker 1: The Boy Who Wore Blue. This article was authored by
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  Speaker 1: Joyce Taylor. Nearly one year after four University of Idaho's
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  Speaker 1: students were murdered near the campus, their families are finding
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  Speaker 1: ways to remember them. Ethan Chapin was one of those students,
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  Speaker 1: born and raised in Skaggott County. His mother has written
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  Speaker 1: a new book, and the family has established a foundation
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  Speaker 1: honoring him through scholarships awarded in his name. This month,
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  Speaker 1: Chapin would have turned twenty one years old. I sat
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  Speaker 1: down with his parents to talk about how the family
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  Speaker 1: is doing, what comes next, and Stacy Chapin's new book,
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  Speaker 1: The Boy Who wore blue, and it has to be
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  Speaker 1: tough every day, right without your son around, knowing that
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  Speaker 1: your son was murdered. But it has to hit different
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  Speaker 1: during the holidays, it has to hit different during their birthday,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the days where you celebrate them or celebrate
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  Speaker 1: with them. So it has to be just extra painful
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  Speaker 1: whenever these milestones approach. And let's not forget we're approaching
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  Speaker 1: the one year mark of the murders themselves. Stacy Chapin,
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  Speaker 1: I just needed people to have a true story of them.
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  Speaker 1: For people who know him, it's a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a memoir, and I think for people who don't know him,
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  Speaker 1: it's literally the message of how Ethan lived his life.
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  Speaker 1: And this is in interview format, So I'll say the
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  Speaker 1: name of the person who is talked and then their
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  Speaker 1: commentary will come next. Taylor, tell us about him, Jim Chapin.
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  Speaker 1: Ethan was truly one of a kind. He was Stacy Chapin.
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  Speaker 1: He was an exceptional kid from the day he was born.
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  Speaker 1: Jim Chapin, I mean, he just lived life to the fullest.
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  Speaker 1: He kept everybody in check, Taylor, and not just because
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  Speaker 1: he was six foot four. Jim Chapin, No, no, there
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  Speaker 1: was just a way about him that he had a
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  Speaker 1: good message. Just be yourself, have fun, and do good
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  Speaker 1: for everybody. You know, if we could all live by
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  Speaker 1: that mantra, how much better would the world be. Stacy Chapin,
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  Speaker 1: I just missed him walking into a room and giving
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  Speaker 1: you a hug and making some funny comments, and he
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  Speaker 1: was just he was just amazing. And how many of
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  Speaker 1: us have lost somebody to a disease or a car
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  Speaker 1: accident or whatever, and we felt the same pain, Maybe
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  Speaker 1: not exactly like Stacy Chapin, because unless you lose a child,
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  Speaker 1: forget it, you'll never understand that pain. But when you
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  Speaker 1: lose somebody and there's that hole in your life, it's
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  Speaker 1: very difficult to navigate the new path that you're on.
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  Speaker 1: I know that when I lost my uncle, who I
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  Speaker 1: was very very close with, it took me quite some
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  Speaker 1: time to get right. I had to actually go to
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  Speaker 1: like grief therapy because it was so hard for me
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  Speaker 1: to deal with his death. And he didn't die in
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  Speaker 1: a violent manner. He died of natural causes, but it
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  Speaker 1: was unexpected. And whenever you have an unexpected death, it
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  Speaker 1: just leaves a gaping hole in your life and then
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  Speaker 1: you add to that misery somebody actually did this to you.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody murdered your son. I cannot even begin to imagine
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  Speaker 1: what a parent must feel like, Taylor, is there anything
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  Speaker 1: that you missed the most? Stacy Chapin hugging him. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I would give anything. Yeah, that's it. I would give
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  Speaker 1: anything to hug him again in his blue coat, his
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  Speaker 1: blue puffy Patagonia coat. You know what I take from that, Folks,
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  Speaker 1: Later on today or tomorrow or whatever, when you see
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  Speaker 1: your mom and dad, give them a big hug. I
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  Speaker 1: don't care how old you are. I don't care how
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  Speaker 1: old they are, give them a big hug. Because you
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  Speaker 1: know what, life happens fast, and it's all over in
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  Speaker 1: a minute. So we have to try and take the
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  Speaker 1: time to tell the people that we care about that
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  Speaker 1: we care about them, and it gets lost in the
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  Speaker 1: shuffle sometimes. I know we're all busy, we all have stress,
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  Speaker 1: we all have other things going on. But life is
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  Speaker 1: fleeting and we have to make sure that the people
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  Speaker 1: we care about we let them know that we care
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  Speaker 1: about them. Taylor, how are you almost a year after
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  Speaker 1: Stacy Chapin, It's shocking. It's been a year. We spent.
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  Speaker 1: I call it a period of time. There was about
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  Speaker 1: five months that I'm in. I call it the depths
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  Speaker 1: of Hell. I mean we went there, We've been there.
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  Speaker 1: I think you have to go there in order to
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  Speaker 1: start the journey out. That is the process of healing
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  Speaker 1: and figuring out how you live your life without this
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  Speaker 1: person that's been in it forever. I have a place
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  Speaker 1: kind of where Ethan lives in there, and it's a
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  Speaker 1: safe spot, you know. I think overall, under all these circumstances,
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  Speaker 1: I think we're doing well. This thing took one of
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  Speaker 1: our kids, but it can't take the rest of us. Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: I think about Mazie and Hunter a lot, because I'm
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  Speaker 1: a multiple and there's a unique special connection that multiples
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  Speaker 1: have that other siblings do not have, and so I've
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  Speaker 1: thought about them often having lost a piece of themselves. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: in losing their brother Stacy Chapin, Jim and I can
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  Speaker 1: sit here and tell you what it feels like to
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  Speaker 1: lose a child, I honestly cannot tell you what it
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  Speaker 1: must feel like for Mazie and Hunter to lose literally
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  Speaker 1: a piece of them. It's profoundly different for them than
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  Speaker 1: it is for the rest of us, and we all
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  Speaker 1: know that if you have a twin, forget it. There's
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  Speaker 1: that special bond right between you and your twin, and
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  Speaker 1: then to have that bond just completely severed with one
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  Speaker 1: of the twins being murdered like this, I can't even
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  Speaker 1: imagine the sort of effect that has on a twin
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  Speaker 1: or in this instance, triplets. Jim Chapin, they came home
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  Speaker 1: in mid May after school's out, and they spent all
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  Speaker 1: summer at our Idaho home and both worked and it
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  Speaker 1: seems like they healed a lot during that period of time.
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  Speaker 1: It's just going to take time, take time for all
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  Speaker 1: of us. And that's an understatement. They're never gonna get
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  Speaker 1: over this, right, They're going to figure out a way,
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  Speaker 1: hopefully to navigate their new reality. But the whole that
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  Speaker 1: has been left by this murder is never going away.
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  Speaker 1: And it doesn't even matter what happens as far as
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  Speaker 1: Brian Colberger right. I mean, even if he's put to death,
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  Speaker 1: justice has been served if he's convicted, But does that
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  Speaker 1: bring Ethan back and how far does that go to
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  Speaker 1: really give the parents some comfort? I know if it
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  Speaker 1: was my child, it wouldn't go that far. Honestly, Sure,
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  Speaker 1: it would feel good in the moment, and I'd want
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  Speaker 1: Brian Colberger to get the death penalty. But after it
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  Speaker 1: was said and done, my kid is still gone, Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: When we send our kids off to school to college,
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  Speaker 1: we think it's one of the safest places is that
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  Speaker 1: they can be Jim Chapin. Yes, Stacy Chapin, I mean Moscow, Idaho, Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: Not in your wildest imaginations, dreams or nightmares even right,
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  Speaker 1: could you imagine something like this? Jim Chapin, literally the
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  Speaker 1: week before and just had the best time of the kids,
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  Speaker 1: and we would never think something like this would happen.
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  Speaker 1: Stacy Chapin. Ever, it was the best weekend. We were
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  Speaker 1: in the King Street house that weekend. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you just we were like, what these kids are living
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  Speaker 1: their best life. And I think that's what all of
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  Speaker 1: us were feeling when we got the news that this happened. Now,
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  Speaker 1: why in the hell would anybody go into a house
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  Speaker 1: off of a campus and murder four kids? And still
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  Speaker 1: we don't have those answers, right, we have a suspect,
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  Speaker 1: but we have no answers, Taylor. And then a week later,
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  Speaker 1: your son calls you, Stacy Chapin, we got stuck in
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  Speaker 1: traffic in Everett and we're literally sitting there. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I remember. And what do you do? Taylor? Trying to
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  Speaker 1: get to Idaho, Stacy Chapin trying to get to Idaho,
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  Speaker 1: trying to get to Mazie and Hunter, Taylor, and you're
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  Speaker 1: not knowing what is happening. You put a post on
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  Speaker 1: social you sent it to me that you spent no
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  Speaker 1: time being angry because that would not be energy well spent.
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  Speaker 1: And that's been the Chapin families, Mattra pretty much throughout
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  Speaker 1: this whole thing. They've been pretty level headed about this
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  Speaker 1: and they haven't really exhibited any sort of like anger
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  Speaker 1: in public. We can't bring Ethan back, I mean, let's
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  Speaker 1: all be honest. Nothing we can do can bring him back.
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  Speaker 1: And when you know, when you start to feel angry,
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  Speaker 1: it literally can take you down a rabbit hole that
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  Speaker 1: just isn't a healthy place to be. Well, she's not
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  Speaker 1: wrong about that, and I know that because I used
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  Speaker 1: to be one of the most angry people going and
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  Speaker 1: it never got me anywhere. It never did anything for
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  Speaker 1: me but bring more pain and more misery. Taylor, So
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  Speaker 1: what is justice for you in all of this? Jim Chapin,
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  Speaker 1: the person who is in jail right now that it's
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  Speaker 1: going to it's going to take care of itself. You know,
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  Speaker 1: nothing we can do or say or anything is going
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  Speaker 1: to change what's going to happen to that individual. Stacy Chapin. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I guess that would be my answer. Justice for me
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  Speaker 1: is that the system will work how it's supposed to. Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, you have no plans of even going to
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  Speaker 1: the trial, to even be in the courtroom from start
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  Speaker 1: to finish. Jim Chapin, there's no closing for me. Whatever
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  Speaker 1: happens in that trial, there's no closure. The only closure
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  Speaker 1: I have is knowing that my family is good and
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  Speaker 1: healthy and we move on with our lives and do
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  Speaker 1: what we were doing prior to this terrible thing that's
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  Speaker 1: happened to our family. Stacy Chapin, it's a choice, you know.
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  Speaker 1: You just have to tuck that kid somewhere in there,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm thankful for the twenty years that we had
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  Speaker 1: with them, totally, one hundred percent. Taylor. We are coming
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  Speaker 1: back up on parents Weekend and a big birthday for
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  Speaker 1: your kids. Twenty one, Jim Chapin. Twenty one was something
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  Speaker 1: that we talked about forever having these triplets turned twenty
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  Speaker 1: one was going to be the greatest, the greatest night ever.
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  Speaker 1: That night cannot take away from Maize and Hunter. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, parents weekend, it'll be a little bit camouflaged
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  Speaker 1: in Parents' weekend and then we'll go out and we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna celebrate Maize and Hunter. Good for them. I hope
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  Speaker 1: that they have the greatest time that they possibly can.
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  Speaker 1: If anybody deserves a little bit of joy, a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of solace, a little bit of peace, it's the
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  Speaker 1: Chapin family, Stacy Chapin. We cannot forget that. That's the priority.
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  Speaker 1: Find something that you feel like brings you joy in
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  Speaker 1: a day. There is always something there, no matter how
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  Speaker 1: dark the day feels. We found it every single day.
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  Speaker 1: You know, maybe for an episode of Tales of Tenacity
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  Speaker 1: and Hope, we'll talk about the Chapin family because this
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  Speaker 1: is an inspiration for people. And the way that they've
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  Speaker 1: handled this tragedy with such class and with such grace,
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  Speaker 1: if you will, is something to really really marvel at.
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  Speaker 1: You haven't heard any bad language coming from them, nothing,
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  Speaker 1: So it really shows you the character that they possess.
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  Speaker 1: As I've told you a million times. I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: able to have that kind of grace. I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: able to keep my mouth shut, and I'd be out
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  Speaker 1: here going bananas. Taylor. So you have a tattoo on
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  Speaker 1: your arm, Stacy Chapin, I do yes. Jim showed up
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  Speaker 1: one day with Ethan's name e Dog, That's what I
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  Speaker 1: called him. So it's from a note Ethan wrote me,
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  Speaker 1: probably in the fourth grade, and he just signed it,
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  Speaker 1: I love you mom, Ethan. He would love the tattoo.
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  Speaker 1: He would be honored that we were honoring him in
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  Speaker 1: all these different ways. From the Boy who wore Blue.
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  Speaker 1: He was selfless, caring, generous and warm, and wherever you went,
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  Speaker 1: the friends would all swarm. This tale, the story of
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  Speaker 1: the Boy who Wore Blue, is a message for everyone,
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  Speaker 1: including you. Life is short, Give it your best, Jim Chapin,
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  Speaker 1: we want to pass on as positive energy to other kids, Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: That's his legacy for us. The Chapins have set up
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  Speaker 1: a foundation in Ethan's memory. Ethan's Smile is a foundation
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  Speaker 1: honoring his love of life, people, and adventure. Money raise
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  Speaker 1: goes to post high school scholarships for students from Conway,
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  Speaker 1: where he grew up and students at the University of Idaho.
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  Speaker 1: All right, folks, that's gonna do it for this one.
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  Speaker 1: All of the information that goes with this episode can
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