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- 0:04Speaker 1: Fall systems, going clear the left? What is going on?
- 0:36Speaker 1: Everybody Happy? Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Whenever you're listening, we're talking
- 0:40Speaker 1: some UFC A different face down below. Our man, Big
- 0:44Speaker 1: Marley is on vacation in Florida. I'm with the Man,
- 0:47Speaker 1: the myth, the legend. Sheets very excited to do a show.
- 0:50Speaker 1: I think this might be our first show. Maybe we
- 0:52Speaker 1: did a three man booth. But Sheets someone I respect
- 0:56Speaker 1: very highly in every single d FS sports. MMA is
- 1:00Speaker 1: probably my favorite sport nowadays Football is up there, but
- 1:02Speaker 1: I love the sweats. Sheets is again one of very
- 1:05Speaker 1: very sharp in MMA streets m habes. You can usually
- 1:08Speaker 1: find them above you in the leader boards. It's a
- 1:10Speaker 1: twelve fight card. Twelve fights is my magic number I
- 1:13Speaker 1: always talk about. We're at the Apex smaller cage. As
- 1:16Speaker 1: you can see on the stone, nine of the twelve
- 1:18Speaker 1: fights are expected to finish or at least have a
- 1:21Speaker 1: minus next to it. A couple of coin flips right there,
- 1:23Speaker 1: but I think that's gonna be a solid card. Fingers crossed.
- 1:26Speaker 1: Nothing is canceled, but no time to waste. Sheets bring
- 1:30Speaker 1: you in. I appreciate you doing this, and yeah, I'm
- 1:32Speaker 1: excited for our for our hour hour and a half
- 1:34Speaker 1: talk whatever it may be, how we doing. Everything's good, man.
- 1:37Speaker 2: You know, these guys do such a great job, and
- 1:41Speaker 2: I'm just happy to talk fights with them. Usually I
- 1:43Speaker 2: do a lot of stuff on my own, you know,
- 1:45Speaker 2: and that can get like somewhat lonely.
- 1:47Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, even like some of the ship
- 1:48Speaker 1: in Nation videos to do by myself.
- 1:50Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw me, but like literally
- 1:51Speaker 2: whenever they have that that intro music coming in, even
- 1:54Speaker 2: by myself, I like, I like starting hump that stuff.
- 1:57Speaker 2: Uf I don't know who wrote that, but that's really
- 1:59Speaker 2: really good shit. But yeah, I mean, part of the
- 2:02Speaker 2: reason why I continue to get obsessed with UFC is
- 2:04Speaker 2: from originally from you and you and Marley like getting
- 2:06Speaker 2: me kind of up, you know, getting me involved in
- 2:08Speaker 2: the sport in the first place. Now again, I've kind
- 2:10Speaker 2: of morphed and developed since then, and with DFS caring
- 2:15Speaker 2: less about the fights, and it's kind of like kind
- 2:18Speaker 2: of like the kind of like a little stupid when
- 2:21Speaker 2: you think about it, Like I try to dismiss my
- 2:24Speaker 2: idea of like who's gonna win and who I like
- 2:26Speaker 2: and what's gonna be good and all that stuff, and
- 2:28Speaker 2: I've turned into one of those freaking guys that just
- 2:31Speaker 2: regard these things just kind of like data points on
- 2:33Speaker 2: a freaking spreadsheet and stuff like that. And it's a
- 2:36Speaker 2: little annoying, it's it's but that's what happens with all
- 2:40Speaker 2: of DFS. I mean DFS. Listen, the Knicks freaking won
- 2:43Speaker 2: the championship for the first time since I've been a lot,
- 2:45Speaker 2: you know, not since I've been a lot in a
- 2:47Speaker 2: long time.
- 2:48Speaker 1: I just don't even care, you know what I mean.
- 2:49Speaker 2: I'm not like one of those guys that just don't
- 2:51Speaker 2: even care about sports anymore because of the stupid DFS thing.
- 2:54Speaker 2: But but you have seen is the closest I get
- 2:56Speaker 2: to really actually getting into the sport along with that,
- 3:00Speaker 2: because I listen tells in last week's UFC at the
- 3:03Speaker 2: White House. Listen, let's face it, from a DFS perspective,
- 3:06Speaker 2: it was a stupid freaking slate.
- 3:08Speaker 1: Uh. I ended up chopping the winner.
- 3:10Speaker 2: And and you know what, if Gaigee didn't completely smash
- 3:13Speaker 2: I would have it would have actually cast for twenty
- 3:15Speaker 2: five thousand instead of like fifty eight hundred, wow.
- 3:18Speaker 1: For eighty seven hundred.
- 3:19Speaker 2: Yeah, if he had because if he had, if I
- 3:22Speaker 2: had just gotten there enough, he would have been in
- 3:24Speaker 2: the flex and I'd be chopping with only a few
- 3:26Speaker 2: people for twenty five thousand. But because he's like really smashed,
- 3:29Speaker 2: then the captain ones got there.
- 3:31Speaker 1: But but but every.
- 3:33Speaker 2: Time I watch the UFC, you know, you see the
- 3:36Speaker 2: punishment that these freaking people are willing to take. And
- 3:40Speaker 2: I remember the first UFC card I ever went to
- 3:42Speaker 2: live was I saw Gaichee versus Chandler as part of
- 3:47Speaker 2: the prelims for uh for Uzman versus I think Covington
- 3:51Speaker 2: and I couldn't breathe after that Gaichee Chandler fight and
- 3:54Speaker 2: reminded me of that, you know, when when when Gatechee
- 3:57Speaker 2: was fighting to Poory. You know it's like, I I know,
- 4:00Speaker 2: it's like so much marketing or stuff like that, but
- 4:02Speaker 2: when they talk about the BMF belt and stuff and
- 4:04Speaker 2: that these guys really are fucking bad mother efforts, you
- 4:06Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like to be able to take
- 4:08Speaker 2: a punishment that gats He took. I mean I watched
- 4:12Speaker 2: that second round like six times since the since it ended.
- 4:15Speaker 2: And how the hell he survived that second round, not
- 4:19Speaker 2: even survived, but to like turn it around and like
- 4:22Speaker 2: inflict his own punishment. And then even for Tiporia, you know, listen,
- 4:25Speaker 2: you know obviously lost, but to take some of those
- 4:28Speaker 2: knees that he took, and you know, like just what
- 4:30Speaker 2: these people do in the ring, it's just this is
- 4:33Speaker 2: just crazy.
- 4:34Speaker 1: And the reason I bring this up is from a
- 4:36Speaker 1: DFS perspective.
- 4:37Speaker 2: One of the edges I think you get from not
- 4:41Speaker 2: you know, getting too invested in your fight analysis is
- 4:44Speaker 2: that we as kind of like storytellers, try to like
- 4:47Speaker 2: come up with some like order, you know what I mean, say, Okay,
- 4:50Speaker 2: like if A wins, it's gonna because of this, but
- 4:53Speaker 2: if B wins, it's gonna be because of that, and
- 4:55Speaker 2: they turn into this binary thing. But at the end
- 4:57Speaker 2: of the day, there's so much care like in these
- 5:01Speaker 2: fights that to think that way just kind of I
- 5:05Speaker 2: just think it kind.
- 5:06Speaker 1: Of misses the boat. You know. It's so funny.
- 5:07Speaker 2: When I was doing my breakdown of that fight last week,
- 5:10Speaker 2: even I said, listen, I know what you guys are
- 5:12Speaker 2: gonna think. There's gonna be a tough take, But believe
- 5:15Speaker 2: it or not, gay Chie does win that fight twenty
- 5:17Speaker 2: percent of the time, you know, because that's what Yann say,
- 5:21Speaker 2: you know, just like what I sit back in the
- 5:22Speaker 2: day where nobody believed that Morob could ever lose to
- 5:25Speaker 2: Yan in that fight, right, because we're used to we're
- 5:27Speaker 2: used to just Morob just like taking everybody down. And
- 5:30Speaker 2: this he listening. He took Yon down a zillion times
- 5:32Speaker 2: to fight before or whatever. Why wouldn't he. But just
- 5:35Speaker 2: because he's likely to win doesn't mean he's always gonna win.
- 5:40Speaker 2: And when you're dealing with an ownership game, when you're
- 5:42Speaker 2: balancing all that stuff, you gotta learn to like not
- 5:45Speaker 2: think of things that they're either going to happen or
- 5:48Speaker 2: they're not. Like everything is a percentage, Everything has got
- 5:52Speaker 2: a shot. I guess maybe when you get older and
- 5:54Speaker 2: you've seen so much shit go down, you know what
- 5:56Speaker 2: I mean, I.
- 5:57Speaker 1: Mean between people, between people running into.
- 5:59Speaker 2: The world, I mean the World Trade Center to long
- 6:03Speaker 2: term capital destroying the markets, the two thousand and eight
- 6:06Speaker 2: and that's COVID. You know, you see so much shit
- 6:08Speaker 2: you then like say, well, twenty percent chance to win.
- 6:12Speaker 2: That's that to me, that's like the sun going up
- 6:14Speaker 2: and down, you know what I mean? Like that, yeah,
- 6:16Speaker 2: was all the time. So so that's since we've last
- 6:19Speaker 2: spoke again as you know, I mean, become much more
- 6:22Speaker 2: of kind of the evil Empire as far as this goes,
- 6:24Speaker 2: you know, like listen, yeah, I think that.
- 6:26Speaker 1: XYZ is gonna win.
- 6:27Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, if someone's thirty
- 6:30Speaker 2: percent to win and they're twelve percent owns, you probably
- 6:33Speaker 2: should give them a shot in this particular sport.
- 6:36Speaker 1: Yeah, you've helped me a lot with that, for sure,
- 6:38Speaker 1: because I am someone I mean you always mention it,
- 6:41Speaker 1: Charles Oliver versus Michael Chandler when I say I go
- 6:43Speaker 1: all the way and I have one hundred percent, and
- 6:45Speaker 1: I mean I went on, I went out a big
- 6:47Speaker 1: down swing in m in man. When you're not taking
- 6:49Speaker 1: first in this sport, you're pretty much not winning with
- 6:51Speaker 1: especially the chop City kind of like NFL Showdown. But yeah,
- 6:55Speaker 1: you've helped me a lot, Big Marley, Like looking at odds,
- 6:58Speaker 1: if it's seventeen percent chance to finish and they're nine
- 7:00Speaker 1: percent owned, usually that could be a play. And it's
- 7:03Speaker 1: all about your roster. We talk about that lot a lot.
- 7:05Speaker 1: You can eat chalk, but if you have chalk in
- 7:07Speaker 1: three spots, maybe you should do something different. In a
- 7:10Speaker 1: couple other ones. Leaving salary in MMA obviously is a
- 7:13Speaker 1: way to get different this card I think is I mean,
- 7:16Speaker 1: we have a couple big favorites, but they are priced efficiently.
- 7:19Speaker 1: We don't have any like underdogs right now. Is the
- 7:21Speaker 1: favorites a good amount are expected to finish a main
- 7:24Speaker 1: event when we will get there. I do think is
- 7:26Speaker 1: you can fade. There is a chance that it stays
- 7:29Speaker 1: on the feet almost the whole time, expected to go
- 7:30Speaker 1: to the championship round. So I don't think there's just
- 7:33Speaker 1: one fight you have to be all in on. You
- 7:35Speaker 1: rarely do that anyways. And yeah, I like looking at
- 7:38Speaker 1: contest flashback. This is a good time to get some
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- 7:51Speaker 1: Open tomorrow. Sheets already did a video in our discord
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- 7:57Speaker 1: out there in the industry. Excited to build some golf
- 8:00Speaker 1: after this, we got MMA, of course, NASCAR on Sundays,
- 8:03Speaker 1: and she plays all these sports. I can't keep saying, well,
- 8:06Speaker 1: you know what it's like.
- 8:07Speaker 2: People say that when the NFL season is not around,
- 8:10Speaker 2: you know who cares? I mean, do you know what's
- 8:12Speaker 2: happened in the last like ninety six hours?
- 8:14Speaker 1: Like in sports, Like.
- 8:15Speaker 2: I when I went out to Vegas, right, I flew
- 8:17Speaker 2: out on a Friday, and first in like in order,
- 8:21Speaker 2: you had the World Cup with the USA just just
- 8:23Speaker 2: showing out.
- 8:24Speaker 1: And it's so funny. I was at Circa and there.
- 8:26Speaker 2: Was like seventeen screens on the US on the US
- 8:29Speaker 2: soccer team, and at the bottom right there was a
- 8:31Speaker 2: little TV of like Jacob Mizowski put it on like
- 8:34Speaker 2: a legendary freaking pitching performance. So now I fly back
- 8:38Speaker 2: get in Saturday to see the knicks and all that stuff,
- 8:42Speaker 2: and just when you can't breathe, Sunday comes you have
- 8:44Speaker 2: that ridiculous UFC card and oh, by the way, the
- 8:47Speaker 2: Stanley Cup finals finished, you know what I mean? And
- 8:49Speaker 2: then you blink and you have the US Open. So
- 8:53Speaker 2: there's there's all kinds of stuff going on. And so
- 8:57Speaker 2: here's I have a question. So you mentioned that the
- 9:00Speaker 2: the twelve fights is kind of like your magic number,
- 9:03Speaker 2: So this is the way I kind of look at it.
- 9:05Speaker 2: So for me, like the way I look at these
- 9:07Speaker 2: GPP cards is is it a card where you can
- 9:10Speaker 2: just kind of play good plays or you have to
- 9:12Speaker 2: like engage in funny business. And funny business to me
- 9:15Speaker 2: means some combination of low salary like geomeine filtering, you know,
- 9:21Speaker 2: just just kind of screwy stuff, you know, with with
- 9:23Speaker 2: your lineups to try.
- 9:24Speaker 1: To get unique.
- 9:26Speaker 2: And for me, like thirteen is more like that that
- 9:29Speaker 2: that number that I kind of need. But the thing
- 9:32Speaker 2: is is that if you have a twelve fight card,
- 9:34Speaker 2: you can get away with it as long as and
- 9:37Speaker 2: you mentioned this, as long as there's no lock, you know,
- 9:41Speaker 2: as long as thank god there's no replacement fighters yet, right,
- 9:46Speaker 2: that can become a lock. And there's also no fight
- 9:49Speaker 2: that is everybody's gonna play that you can't faign. Now,
- 9:53Speaker 2: usually that means the main event, but sometimes you know,
- 9:56Speaker 2: when you get those Terrence McKinny fights, when it's eighty
- 9:58Speaker 2: two hundred and eight K where you just have to
- 9:59Speaker 2: play it, you know, And if you have twelve fights
- 10:03Speaker 2: and a main event you can fade, then I think
- 10:05Speaker 2: you're okay.
- 10:06Speaker 1: So I rate this car similar to you.
- 10:08Speaker 2: I think it's like a it's a nice like B
- 10:11Speaker 2: minus as.
- 10:12Speaker 1: Far as seven goes seven and a half out of ten.
- 10:14Speaker 1: I actually, right now, I don't think anyone will be
- 10:16Speaker 1: over forty five percent owned. We will see if I
- 10:19Speaker 1: am right when it's all said and done. But yeah,
- 10:21Speaker 1: there's twelve fights and no one's over forty five percent,
- 10:24Speaker 1: then it's a solid card in terms of that. But
- 10:27Speaker 1: I do agree. Third, when I say twelves of magic number,
- 10:29Speaker 1: once we get to eleven half the times, I don't
- 10:31Speaker 1: even play GPPs, so that's what I mean there. But yeah,
- 10:34Speaker 1: we'll get right into it. Actually, yeah, let me just
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- 11:10Speaker 1: go bottom in the top right away. Those sheets the
- 11:13Speaker 1: first fight of the night. So I put these odds
- 11:15Speaker 1: up on Tuesday, and I always like to do that
- 11:18Speaker 1: to compare where the money has gone since then. So
- 11:22Speaker 1: first fight of the night Shane Collins and O Tar
- 11:25Speaker 1: tens to Love minus two hundred is Collins Odar plus
- 11:29Speaker 1: one seventy minus one ten for this fight to finish,
- 11:32Speaker 1: we have Collins plus one ninety inside the distance O
- 11:37Speaker 1: Tar plus three to twenty five. So Shane Collins has
- 11:40Speaker 1: taken a little bit of money since Tuesday was minus
- 11:42Speaker 1: one eighty now minus two hundred. He actually opened minus
- 11:45Speaker 1: one fifty, then got to minus one ninety, then was
- 11:48Speaker 1: back to minus one fifty five, and he has taken
- 11:51Speaker 1: some money since this fight was announced on last Friday.
- 11:56Speaker 1: This card was put together, the last one on the card.
- 11:59Speaker 1: So I'll throw it to you to kick us off.
- 12:01Speaker 1: What are you doing in this first fight?
- 12:02Speaker 2: The fact remains is that no matter what people say,
- 12:05Speaker 2: nobody has any idea who these people are.
- 12:07Speaker 1: You know, especially DFS players, you know.
- 12:11Speaker 2: And so what's good about that is you have to
- 12:14Speaker 2: kind of rely on a little external content and a
- 12:16Speaker 2: little a little bit of the odds. Okay, because the
- 12:20Speaker 2: first thing I like to look at is, does any
- 12:22Speaker 2: of these guys have like an extreme like takedown upside
- 12:25Speaker 2: Like if they have like that, that's good. That's gonna
- 12:28Speaker 2: be their their paths of victory and everybody knows it.
- 12:31Speaker 2: And if the answer is no, which seems to be
- 12:33Speaker 2: the case here, that that you are at least relying
- 12:36Speaker 2: on the inside the distance prop to to to to
- 12:39Speaker 2: govern whether you're gonna play. Now, Shane Coms, from what
- 12:41Speaker 2: I've heard, is like a boxer, you know. And when
- 12:43Speaker 2: you have boxer versus striker, whatever it is, the good
- 12:45Speaker 2: thing is it's pretty, you know, pretty cut and dry,
- 12:48Speaker 2: you know. And now you've an eighty five hundred dollars
- 12:50Speaker 2: fighter and we start with a favorite right who is
- 12:53Speaker 2: like you said, plus one one eighty inside the distance
- 12:57Speaker 2: something like that. I mean, it's fine, you know, Like
- 13:03Speaker 2: the only thing that makes it okay is that the
- 13:05Speaker 2: rest of the car kind of stinks too, you know.
- 13:08Speaker 2: It's with respect, So there's no like these huge inside
- 13:10Speaker 2: the distance lines that you really are gonna have to
- 13:12Speaker 2: play with this. You don't have those like eighty six
- 13:14Speaker 2: hundred dollars guys with minus one no plus one twenty or.
- 13:18Speaker 1: Something like that, so he doesn't have a lot of competition.
- 13:21Speaker 2: But in general these types of fights I end up
- 13:25Speaker 2: just not getting to because all you're getting is the
- 13:28Speaker 2: inside of the distance prop and when you have minus
- 13:30Speaker 2: eighty six hundred at minus at plus, you know whatever,
- 13:33Speaker 2: he is one eighty inside of distance. To me, that's
- 13:36Speaker 2: somebody that I'll get in one fifty max, just because
- 13:40Speaker 2: I just get like a lot of people. But if
- 13:42Speaker 2: I had to hand pick three max twenty max, there's
- 13:45Speaker 2: just no way I'm getting either of these guys.
- 13:47Speaker 1: Honestly, all right, fair enough, I think I have a
- 13:49Speaker 1: little more interest. I also on some like unknown fights
- 13:53Speaker 1: like this, where it's lower level. There's more unknowns. It
- 13:57Speaker 1: was just made on last Friday, Like maybe one of
- 14:00Speaker 1: these guys. Cardio is way worse. They're not nearly as
- 14:02Speaker 1: in shape, and we know if once the guest saint
- 14:05Speaker 1: goes in MMA punches, add up in bunches late second
- 14:08Speaker 1: round finish, third round finish, they can really pour it on.
- 14:11Speaker 1: So plus one ninety thirty four and a half percent,
- 14:14Speaker 1: that is as likely to finish. I do think he
- 14:16Speaker 1: comes in lower own than that, and I do think
- 14:18Speaker 1: Shane Collins he's also taking twenty cent cents Tuesday, So
- 14:22Speaker 1: what also why I don't love Manel cop and the
- 14:25Speaker 1: Horigucci fight. So if you just go Cop to Shane
- 14:28Speaker 1: Collins and leave one hundred and you don't play the
- 14:30Speaker 1: main event, that is one way you can eliminate a
- 14:32Speaker 1: lot of dupes there. So I think I have a
- 14:34Speaker 1: little more interest in this fight than you. Tanzaloni side,
- 14:37Speaker 1: I don't like as much. But if I mean, if
- 14:40Speaker 1: he wins at seventy seven hundred and plus three twenty
- 14:43Speaker 1: five inside the distance isn't terrible for his let me
- 14:46Speaker 1: just make sure I got there right. Yeah, plus three
- 14:48Speaker 1: twenty five inside the distance is twenty three and a
- 14:51Speaker 1: half percent at seventy seven hundred. I don't love it.
- 14:54Speaker 1: I don't hate it. I do prefer Collins in this fight,
- 14:56Speaker 1: but there's more unknowns. Again with both guys nake in
- 15:00Speaker 1: the UFC debut, haven't fought great competition, and it's a
- 15:03Speaker 1: short note. It's a late notice ad for them both.
- 15:05Speaker 1: So I'll have a little bit, but it's not my
- 15:08Speaker 1: favorite fight on the card by any means. We'll keep
- 15:11Speaker 1: a rolling next fight on the card, good sized favorites
- 15:14Speaker 1: and the most likely fight to finish levon Jacoli minus
- 15:17Speaker 1: three ten taken on Leon Chabazion plus two sixty minus
- 15:22Speaker 1: four hundred. For this fight to finish, we have Jacoli
- 15:27Speaker 1: minus one ninety inside the distance, Shabazi and plus three fifty.
- 15:31Speaker 1: You see Shabazi and you think of Edmund's brother, but
- 15:34Speaker 1: Shabazi is actually a grappler in this one unlike his brother,
- 15:38Speaker 1: And the props do show that Shabazian to win by
- 15:40Speaker 1: Koh plus two thousand, Shabazian to win by sub plus
- 15:44Speaker 1: three seventy five, Jacoli to win by sub plus nine
- 15:47Speaker 1: to seventy five. Jacoli to win by Koh minus one fifty,
- 15:52Speaker 1: Jacoli also taking some money on the inside the distance
- 15:54Speaker 1: prop was minus one sixty five now minus one ninety.
- 15:59Speaker 1: This fight seems pretty's strong to me. I do think
- 16:01Speaker 1: Jacoli will be one of the highest owned fighters. Minus
- 16:03Speaker 1: one ninety inside the distance is obviously good. Plus two
- 16:07Speaker 1: fifteen in round one is solid as well. Shabazi and
- 16:10Speaker 1: if he wins, I think he scores. So yeah, this
- 16:12Speaker 1: is a fight I will definitely be playing a good
- 16:14Speaker 1: amount of Obviously I expect the field too as well.
- 16:17Speaker 1: But I don't think anyone comes in crazy on. Like
- 16:19Speaker 1: I said from the top, So do you have similar
- 16:21Speaker 1: thoughts or different?
- 16:22Speaker 2: A little different in the fact that that I don't
- 16:25Speaker 2: see how this this guy ends up being that popular
- 16:30Speaker 2: only because again Jacoli, Yeah, well just because no one
- 16:33Speaker 2: knows who he is, you know what I mean, Like
- 16:34Speaker 2: he's he's a it's this first of all, it's a
- 16:36Speaker 2: second fight of the night.
- 16:38Speaker 1: Nobody likes that anyway. And it's a guy, which is
- 16:41Speaker 1: the wrong way to play, which we both know. But
- 16:43Speaker 1: every fight's independent to each other.
- 16:45Speaker 2: Well, we're just talking about what people are, you know,
- 16:48Speaker 2: and and then what happens is and this is made
- 16:51Speaker 2: a really really good point about about when guys are
- 16:54Speaker 2: making their debuts, when the guys are just not known
- 16:57Speaker 2: too well, there's a lot of variants. Okay, because like
- 17:00Speaker 2: this past weekend at UFC, like I thought, everything was
- 17:03Speaker 2: very perfectly well aligned and well priced to whatever you
- 17:06Speaker 2: want to Why because we've seen all those guys fight
- 17:08Speaker 2: like one hundred times.
- 17:09Speaker 1: Okay, there's no.
- 17:10Speaker 2: Secrets with all that all these guys are new all
- 17:14Speaker 2: not all of it.
- 17:14Speaker 1: These guys are secrets. Nobody really knows.
- 17:16Speaker 2: You're getting like a little sketchy tape, you know, and
- 17:21Speaker 2: whatever it is. And the thing that people don't realize though,
- 17:24Speaker 2: is that variance goes both ways. What a lot of
- 17:26Speaker 2: people think is, wow, these who is this guy to
- 17:29Speaker 2: be minus three ten?
- 17:30Speaker 1: I mean, there's all kinds of variants here.
- 17:32Speaker 2: Well, variance doesn't necessarily mean that he's under that he's
- 17:35Speaker 2: over that he's overvalued. It could be that he's just
- 17:38Speaker 2: that much better than Leon. And the minus three ten
- 17:42Speaker 2: looks like minus six hundred. And when a lot of
- 17:44Speaker 2: people just you know, they screw it up. They say, well,
- 17:46Speaker 2: you know what, I'm not gonna trust this guy minus
- 17:47Speaker 2: three hundred because you know, maybe I'll play it like
- 17:50Speaker 2: a pick them. Well, why don't you look at it
- 17:51Speaker 2: the other way? Why don't I don't don't trust the
- 17:54Speaker 2: other guy? And even at plus two sixty, and we'll
- 17:56Speaker 2: just gotta pile on Leon's levan.
- 17:58Speaker 1: Sorry.
- 17:59Speaker 2: So yeah, min is inside the distance That is typically
- 18:04Speaker 2: a inside the distance prop that correlates more to like
- 18:08Speaker 2: a ninety three ninety four hundred hour fighter so ninety
- 18:11Speaker 2: one hundred is just an incredible price for him. So
- 18:15Speaker 2: as far as the metrics go, he's just gonna show up.
- 18:18Speaker 2: I think as like you said, one of if not
- 18:20Speaker 2: the best play. Now you hit it right on the
- 18:22Speaker 2: head though, if in fact he is going to show
- 18:25Speaker 2: up as the best play.
- 18:26Speaker 1: And this is this is what you really have to
- 18:29Speaker 1: remember to do in ufcity.
- 18:31Speaker 2: This is the most important thing about getting leverage and
- 18:33Speaker 2: playing GPPs is if you can find a guy whose
- 18:38Speaker 2: metrics are so obvious that makes him a good play,
- 18:43Speaker 2: if you can just invent any way for his opponents
- 18:46Speaker 2: to be even a reasonable play, then you should play
- 18:49Speaker 2: the opponent as well. Okay, because you get all that
- 18:52Speaker 2: leverage against all that ownership, that you can play a
- 18:56Speaker 2: guy who might not even be a great play if
- 18:58Speaker 2: you're sure that the guy you're you're pitting against is
- 19:02Speaker 2: a great play that everybody's gonna see. So you mentioned
- 19:05Speaker 2: that Leon is possibly like a grapple that's gonna be
- 19:07Speaker 2: his path to victory. I mean, to be honest, that's
- 19:10Speaker 2: good enough for me, you know what I mean. Like
- 19:12Speaker 2: and that plus his the leverage you're gonna get, I
- 19:16Speaker 2: think over to even if it's not the most popular.
- 19:18Speaker 2: He's certainly gonna get up there with those metrics. How
- 19:21Speaker 2: do you not, you know? And I'll say something else.
- 19:24Speaker 2: The people that are going to play a lot of him,
- 19:27Speaker 2: the people that don't like get scared of the of
- 19:29Speaker 2: the early fights or whatever, are gonna be the sharper,
- 19:32Speaker 2: better players. So to get leverage on them is even
- 19:35Speaker 2: more important, you know. So, so I definitely think that
- 19:39Speaker 2: you have to play Leon. And I'll tell you this
- 19:41Speaker 2: in a twelve fight card. You know what else is
- 19:43Speaker 2: live the Marlea whatever her name was, man, Yeah, the
- 19:48Speaker 2: marleaku Man win win with win with twenty points as
- 19:52Speaker 2: in a loss variation, and all you need is Leon
- 19:56Speaker 2: to get like one or two takedowns, you know, and
- 19:59Speaker 2: get twenty five points or thirty points, and next thing
- 20:02Speaker 2: you know, you know, no other underdog wins and he's
- 20:06Speaker 2: in all the optimals. Okay, So I agree with you.
- 20:09Speaker 2: I like I like Leon obviously, but you definitely need
- 20:13Speaker 2: to play Levon in the decent amount of your lineups.
- 20:16Speaker 1: Yep. Definitely one of the best fights to target, regardless
- 20:19Speaker 1: the ownership. I'm going to be playing quite a bit
- 20:22Speaker 1: of it, and I do not see Leon getting much
- 20:24Speaker 1: I do think Levon will be one of the highest owned,
- 20:26Speaker 1: but there's enough people in the upper tier that I
- 20:28Speaker 1: do think it gets spread out. Why sent always in here?
- 20:31Speaker 1: Great to see yep, everyone's supporting sheets. Oh we ask
- 20:34Speaker 1: is the like button and subscribe button helps us out
- 20:37Speaker 1: a ton moving from the most likely fight to finish
- 20:40Speaker 1: to the most likely fight to go the distance? Carol
- 20:42Speaker 1: host of minus one twenty taken on the one of
- 20:44Speaker 1: Santos plus one hundred minus four fifty for this fight
- 20:47Speaker 1: to go the distance, Santos the underdog with the slightly
- 20:50Speaker 1: better inside the distance prop at plus five hundred, Hosa
- 20:53Speaker 1: at plus six hundred. I mean, right away you look
- 20:56Speaker 1: at this, it feels like an easy fade. One thing
- 20:59Speaker 1: I do want to mention on the Hosta side. As
- 21:01Speaker 1: you can see on the stone, she throws solid volume
- 21:04Speaker 1: in her three decision wins in the UFC one eleven,
- 21:07Speaker 1: one oh nine, and one oh eight, And that was
- 21:10Speaker 1: her first three fights, and then her last two decisions
- 21:12Speaker 1: have scored one oh five and ninety four. So Hosta
- 21:15Speaker 1: hash shows she can't get there in a decision win.
- 21:19Speaker 1: With that being said, she's taken on Juana Santo's who
- 21:22Speaker 1: a judo practitioner and most of Carol Hosa's wins. I
- 21:26Speaker 1: believe it was five of those or four of those five,
- 21:28Speaker 1: she has at least one takedown in those fights. So
- 21:31Speaker 1: I'm not sure she's gonna be wrestling much in this one,
- 21:34Speaker 1: but she has kind of shown when she gets there
- 21:36Speaker 1: she does mix in takedowns. It's gonna be really low loan.
- 21:40Speaker 1: So I was just trying to make a case to
- 21:42Speaker 1: maybe get some. But I'm curious here your take.
- 21:44Speaker 2: You know, what's cool is that is that is that
- 21:47Speaker 2: you and I don't talk about these fights beforehand and
- 21:50Speaker 2: we give our takes. And one of the things that
- 21:52Speaker 2: I always I hated about that content is that the
- 21:55Speaker 2: people that just like agree with each other like all
- 21:57Speaker 2: the time or whatever it is. And what's cool, what's
- 21:59Speaker 2: cool about us is don't even know what the other
- 22:00Speaker 2: person's gonna say. So see, I'm looking at the other way.
- 22:03Speaker 2: So I pull up Santos literally just be an idiot,
- 22:08Speaker 2: like pull up her game log, like she has like
- 22:10Speaker 2: a zillion hours of control time in like her last
- 22:13Speaker 2: two Stars. I mean, she said three takedowns against Melissa,
- 22:16Speaker 2: against Crowton, who's pretty freaking pretty good herself, and then
- 22:20Speaker 2: two takedowns against Liz bo Is pretty big, and then
- 22:23Speaker 2: you have nine minutes of control time and nine minutes
- 22:26Speaker 2: of control time, and then against Stephanie Egger, who, if
- 22:29Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken.
- 22:31Speaker 1: Pretty good grappler in her own right.
- 22:33Speaker 2: Yeah, Santos had nine minutes of control time there, and
- 22:37Speaker 2: and that was like the worst of her performances as
- 22:40Speaker 2: far as fantasy points goes.
- 22:41Speaker 1: She's always seems to be doing well.
- 22:44Speaker 2: Now, look she's got I think that I was gonna
- 22:48Speaker 2: look at the other way. I thought that Santos was
- 22:50Speaker 2: gonna come off as being like really really popular, and
- 22:54Speaker 2: I was gonna come up with with with with the
- 22:57Speaker 2: other side as being like a weird little bit of
- 22:59Speaker 2: pivot against her. But but again it's only Wednesday, so
- 23:03Speaker 2: I haven't done my ownership projections yet. What's gonna keep
- 23:06Speaker 2: this fight, Uh, what's gonna make this fight owned is
- 23:10Speaker 2: just because of the pricing, you know, Like whenever you
- 23:13Speaker 2: have like these these eighty three seventy nine horr fights,
- 23:15Speaker 2: they just make line.
- 23:16Speaker 1: Of constructions so easy that people are just gonna play these.
- 23:20Speaker 2: They're both gonna be I think, I really do think
- 23:23Speaker 2: they're both gonna be twenty five percent on I really do.
- 23:25Speaker 1: I think Hosta might be like sixteen, Santo's like twenty two. Yeah.
- 23:29Speaker 2: Maybe, but but I think that that this fight is
- 23:33Speaker 2: is very live for a lot of activity. I mean,
- 23:36Speaker 2: like you have I think that Santos is gonna be
- 23:38Speaker 2: going for takedowns. And if you're telling me that that
- 23:41Speaker 2: that Hosa can grapple too, then you have reversals, you
- 23:45Speaker 2: have all kinds of crazy stuff going on.
- 23:47Speaker 1: So I don't know.
- 23:48Speaker 2: For me, I would really probably start with Santos and
- 23:51Speaker 2: even lolmost like a cash game, you know, I don't
- 23:53Speaker 2: know that that's the way I looked at it least.
- 23:56Speaker 1: All right, I like it, Yeah, I mean I do
- 23:58Speaker 1: think Santos will be higher own four hundred less better
- 24:01Speaker 1: money line value, and she is the one more likely
- 24:03Speaker 1: to grapple. I probably prefer her to host it, just
- 24:07Speaker 1: because again, when Hosta does score over one hundred, usually
- 24:09Speaker 1: she is getting a takedown or multiple and I don't
- 24:12Speaker 1: think this is the matchup for her to really do that.
- 24:14Speaker 1: She throws solid light kicks, We'll be looking to keep
- 24:18Speaker 1: it on.
- 24:18Speaker 2: The solid solid leg kicks. Though it does don't make
- 24:20Speaker 2: us don't make us any money, right.
- 24:22Speaker 1: And they don't unless that UoT. Who was it someone
- 24:26Speaker 1: against Omar Morales, No, no, no guy Chris Gutierrez. Chris Gutier
- 24:31Speaker 1: is against Omar Moreles got TKO leg kicks. No, but
- 24:34Speaker 1: the other guy who got the TKO leg kicks.
- 24:36Speaker 2: Remember there's a guy recently who was as who got
- 24:40Speaker 2: a replacement fight, so he was like sixty five percent
- 24:43Speaker 2: owns at like seventy eight seventy six hundred.
- 24:46Speaker 1: Oh Fernandez, I think it was Kuayed Fernandez.
- 24:48Speaker 2: And and and people didn't play him because they were
- 24:51Speaker 2: they were saying that, well, even though he's got all
- 24:53Speaker 2: the moneyline value, he doesn't have a lot of finish
- 24:55Speaker 2: up side because always going to do is go for
- 24:57Speaker 2: leg kicks.
- 24:58Speaker 1: And meanwhile he.
- 24:59Speaker 2: Just white, some white guy, right, he's just bazillion.
- 25:05Speaker 1: Who's was it?
- 25:06Speaker 2: I thought it was some of the guy Okay, no, that.
- 25:09Speaker 1: Fans was the winner.
- 25:11Speaker 2: But the guy he beat was some like some white
- 25:14Speaker 2: guy from England I think or something like that, and
- 25:16Speaker 2: he just just destroyed his leg and he just basically
- 25:19Speaker 2: got a first round KO from leg kicks.
- 25:22Speaker 1: Harry Hardwick, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was also thinking when
- 25:27Speaker 1: you were talking about like being live and just the
- 25:30Speaker 1: damage that uh these guys in a dure or endure.
- 25:35Speaker 1: I my favorite UFC event to this day was actually
- 25:38Speaker 1: one that you solo shipped. Do you have any idea
- 25:41Speaker 1: shows how good sheets is Austin Texas? So many, so
- 25:44Speaker 1: many of them, right Calvin Cator josh Emmett, like three
- 25:48Speaker 1: years ago in Austin, Texas. I mean, man, it was
- 25:51Speaker 1: one of the best events. I think thirteen of the
- 25:52Speaker 1: fourteen finished. Damn the man hooked me up with flour seeds.
- 25:56Speaker 1: Phil Hawes against uh Duran Wynn. If anyone wants to
- 26:00Speaker 1: go out and see violence, I mean, man, when you're
- 26:02Speaker 1: down there and you guys here with these guys go through,
- 26:05Speaker 1: it was absolutely insane. Roman Dalitze knocked out Kyle Daukas
- 26:10Speaker 1: and his first uf C stint with a knee, broke
- 26:13Speaker 1: his nose. I mean, these guys are just absolutely violent,
- 26:16Speaker 1: And yeah, you solo shipped that one sheet. So one
- 26:18Speaker 1: of my favorite, my favorite event to this day live
- 26:21Speaker 1: I've been blessed to be at multiple Yep, all right,
- 26:24Speaker 1: we'll keep it rolling. Next Fight on the Car one
- 26:26Speaker 1: of the biggest favorites, Michael as well minus four to
- 26:28Speaker 1: fifty taking on gastam Blanos plus three to fifty plus
- 26:31Speaker 1: one hundred for this fight to finish as well, plus
- 26:34Speaker 1: one forty inside the distance Bolanos plus five eighty. Tough
- 26:38Speaker 1: for me to get much Bolanos. But if you're talking
- 26:40Speaker 1: about Leon getting there in a loss, I mean Bolanos
- 26:43Speaker 1: at sixty eight hundred, he's three hundred less and it's favored,
- 26:47Speaker 1: slightly favored to go the distance as well, ninety four hundred,
- 26:50Speaker 1: like Levan looks like a way better play in a vacuum,
- 26:54Speaker 1: and he is three hundred less. I do think that
- 26:56Speaker 1: keeps ownership kind of less, especially because like be a
- 26:59Speaker 1: Mesquite when people want to find the two hundred, like
- 27:01Speaker 1: they will. I do think this fight is going to
- 27:03Speaker 1: be pretty low owned. What do you think he'll do?
- 27:06Speaker 2: Yeah, the problem with Balanos is he doesn't have that
- 27:10Speaker 2: that that get there in.
- 27:11Speaker 1: A lost style. You know, he's like basically a pure
- 27:14Speaker 1: kickbox I think, isn't he? I mean, yeah he is.
- 27:17Speaker 1: But I mean if Leon, that fight's supposed to be
- 27:20Speaker 1: heavily favored to finish, So even two takedowns, he gets
- 27:23Speaker 1: twenty five if this fight goes fifteen minutes and it's
- 27:26Speaker 1: a war because that as well throws a lot of volume.
- 27:29Speaker 1: So if he lands ninety five significant strikes in a
- 27:31Speaker 1: war that way, yeah.
- 27:33Speaker 2: So ninety four hundred at plus one forty inside the
- 27:36Speaker 2: distance or one twenty, that's not gonna work for me.
- 27:38Speaker 2: The only time that will is if it also comes
- 27:41Speaker 2: with a bunch of takedowns, and that's not as well
- 27:44Speaker 2: as jam you know, So you're right that it's going
- 27:47Speaker 2: to be low owned. And you know, if you run
- 27:49Speaker 2: this through a simulator, you know, if it's gonna be
- 27:53Speaker 2: plus one. If he's plus one, thirty is to finish
- 27:55Speaker 2: and he's you know, eighteen percent owned instead of thirty,
- 27:59Speaker 2: he's gonna show up.
- 28:00Speaker 1: But if we're just talking about like best.
- 28:02Speaker 2: Plays, I mean you just got to go elsewhere like
- 28:04Speaker 2: the the guy you mentioned before.
- 28:07Speaker 1: Chukawai's definitely on its face it's a better play. Yep. Yeah,
- 28:10Speaker 1: not much more to add there. I do think in
- 28:12Speaker 1: really chalky lineups, I mean, Aswell lands almost eight significant
- 28:15Speaker 1: strikes per minute, like Chets mentioned, he's plus one forty
- 28:18Speaker 1: inside the distance. That's forty one percent, and I think
- 28:21Speaker 1: his ownership might be half of that. So when you're
- 28:22Speaker 1: just going that way alone in the big portfolio lineups
- 28:25Speaker 1: as well. Is my preferred play, even with a lot
- 28:28Speaker 1: twenty six hundred more than Polanos. Next fight on the car.
- 28:32Speaker 1: This fight was actually supposed to take place two months ago.
- 28:35Speaker 1: Alan Nosimento taken on Mitch Riposo and not Smento minus
- 28:38Speaker 1: one ninety Riposo plus one sixty five plus one twenty
- 28:42Speaker 1: for this fight to finish all the finishing equity on
- 28:44Speaker 1: the Nacimento side at plus one forty Riposo plus eight hundred.
- 28:49Speaker 1: You're talking about someone that wants takedowns. Nasmento is one
- 28:52Speaker 1: that does. With that being said, his control is so
- 28:55Speaker 1: good on the mat, his opponents rarely get up so
- 28:57Speaker 1: he can keep dumping him down, and he does not
- 28:59Speaker 1: do too much damage on top. More control and submission
- 29:03Speaker 1: versus damage, so eighty eight hundred. He wants to get
- 29:07Speaker 1: it to the mat inside the distance props solid, price
- 29:10Speaker 1: is solid, but it is favored to go the distance,
- 29:12Speaker 1: and I do think if it does go all fifteen minutes,
- 29:15Speaker 1: more than likely this fight bus still for me, not
- 29:18Speaker 1: cement to over Aposo, even for being fourteen hundred more
- 29:22Speaker 1: tough for me to get much Mitroposo on this card
- 29:24Speaker 1: as a plus eight hundred inside the distance prop against
- 29:27Speaker 1: someone that's gonna be looking to control them on the
- 29:29Speaker 1: mat the whole time. And yet on the.
- 29:31Speaker 2: Other hand, I mean, you have Raposo who's like just
- 29:34Speaker 2: two fights removed from having six takedowns.
- 29:37Speaker 1: You know, so every matchups different, every matchup's different.
- 29:41Speaker 2: And you know, again it's gonna this is gonna fly
- 29:44Speaker 2: in the face of what I said before.
- 29:45Speaker 1: And listen, we're we're human beings.
- 29:47Speaker 2: We love to tell stories, right, so we love to
- 29:50Speaker 2: like come up with and and we love to vibe
- 29:52Speaker 2: these things. And to me, it's just like Riposo goes
- 29:56Speaker 2: out like their freak, like amaniac, you know, whatever it is,
- 29:59Speaker 2: he'll go for and takedowns and then like then like
- 30:02Speaker 2: Nascimento will like latinum or something or or reverse him
- 30:05Speaker 2: in subib or whatever it is. It's the question of
- 30:08Speaker 2: how many points that it's not just the question how many.
- 30:11Speaker 1: Points Pacimento scores.
- 30:13Speaker 2: But there are variations where Nascimento gets like subs that
- 30:17Speaker 2: don't score all too much.
- 30:20Speaker 1: But he's priced to move, you know what I mean.
- 30:23Speaker 2: Like it's not like he's ninety three hundred, you know,
- 30:25Speaker 2: he's he's under nine k right. I mean it's to me,
- 30:29Speaker 2: it's it's it's sort of I want to say, a
- 30:32Speaker 2: tough fade.
- 30:34Speaker 1: But it's one of.
- 30:35Speaker 2: Those things where if you're if you're doing twenty match,
- 30:37Speaker 2: you're doing single entry, you're doing cash.
- 30:39Speaker 1: I literally have no problem.
- 30:40Speaker 2: With this, you know, just playing Nascimento and except the
- 30:43Speaker 2: fact that he might win and get ninety you know,
- 30:46Speaker 2: or ninety five or something like that in a twelve
- 30:51Speaker 2: fight card though to play in the lottery. Uh, this
- 30:56Speaker 2: is one where I don't think that my sims and
- 30:59Speaker 2: my process is gonna get me all that much of it,
- 31:02Speaker 2: you know, because you need you need ceiling for that
- 31:05Speaker 2: type of thing. And Nascimento to me is not a
- 31:08Speaker 2: ceiling guy. You know, He'll he'll do what he has
- 31:11Speaker 2: to do, he'll get his whatever.
- 31:13Speaker 1: But I think.
- 31:13Speaker 2: Riposo is gonna be the one bringing the action.
- 31:16Speaker 1: I mean, I just do.
- 31:17Speaker 2: And in those two situations, I mean, like i'd I'd
- 31:21Speaker 2: rather not go too heavy on the guy that's gonna
- 31:24Speaker 2: be and I want say backing up, that's not gonna
- 31:26Speaker 2: be bringing the action. So uh, I do like Nascrumento.
- 31:30Speaker 2: I think he's priced to move and I think that
- 31:33Speaker 2: that even in low risk, I think he's a pretty
- 31:35Speaker 2: pretty strong play. Like if you started with him and
- 31:37Speaker 2: and and what's the name in Chakelly. Those are two
- 31:41Speaker 2: very reasonably priced guys. I mean, given their given their metrics.
- 31:45Speaker 2: As far as our posto goes, I just don't just
- 31:49Speaker 2: don't think I could do it. You know, he's gonna
- 31:51Speaker 2: he's gonna give you a sweat, I guess, but I
- 31:53Speaker 2: just think at the end of the day, uh, get
- 31:57Speaker 2: there in a loss.
- 31:59Speaker 1: Maybe is he really gonna take down Naciamento. I don't know. Yeah,
- 32:03Speaker 1: it's tough for me to see him get there in
- 32:04Speaker 1: the loss because I think he'll be on his back
- 32:06Speaker 1: controlled most of the times when he does lose. If
- 32:09Speaker 1: he wins, I think he's mainly keeping on the feet.
- 32:11Speaker 1: As far as not Cimento. Like again, I don't love it,
- 32:14Speaker 1: but I think somewhere where I'd want to be around
- 32:16Speaker 1: is his first round prop plus three fifty twenty two
- 32:19Speaker 1: percent if you're telling me he gets a first round finish.
- 32:21Speaker 1: Obviously a quick sub can still score ninety two, but
- 32:24Speaker 1: I would take my chances. So I think somewhere around
- 32:26Speaker 1: that twenty two percent mark, not Cemento, maybe a little higher,
- 32:30Speaker 1: not much, Mitch Rposo love for me. We'll keep it
- 32:34Speaker 1: rolling to the second biggest, our second highest price and
- 32:37Speaker 1: the second biggest favorite, Beatrix Mosquita minus six hundred taking
- 32:41Speaker 1: on Melissa Mullins minus or excuse me, plus four to fifty.
- 32:44Speaker 1: This fights minus three twenty five to finish. Mosquito the
- 32:47Speaker 1: best inside the distance prop on the slate at minus
- 32:50Speaker 1: two to eighty Mullins plus nine hundred Mosquito in round
- 32:54Speaker 1: one plus one forty. So these are two primary grapplers,
- 32:57Speaker 1: but there is levels to everythingsque one of the best
- 33:01Speaker 1: grapplers in the world. When we're talking woman's fourth degree
- 33:05Speaker 1: black belt ten time, I be JJF world champion. If
- 33:10Speaker 1: you just google her names, you can go and find
- 33:12Speaker 1: all these other awards. She gets into the match, she
- 33:15Speaker 1: is nasty ground and pounds and missions and yeah, Melissa Mellens,
- 33:19Speaker 1: I think is in for I'm not even a long
- 33:22Speaker 1: night because I think she probably gets finished in the
- 33:23Speaker 1: first or second. The question is at ninety six hundred,
- 33:27Speaker 1: what do you want and how much do you think
- 33:29Speaker 1: you'll get it for?
- 33:34Speaker 2: We're not going to do too many of these, right,
- 33:36Speaker 2: So if I'm stupid about something.
- 33:38Speaker 1: I'm not going to take the same heat as like
- 33:40Speaker 1: you guys do for always coming back. There's no such thing.
- 33:44Speaker 1: I mean, I when you do this long enough, it
- 33:46Speaker 1: goes in one ear out the other ear.
- 33:49Speaker 2: I mean who I mean, who died and left be
- 33:52Speaker 2: a mosquito like the leader of the Free World. I
- 33:55Speaker 2: don't know, like she Okay, I'm literally dismissing those last
- 34:00Speaker 2: two fights. I mean, I think those were as much
- 34:02Speaker 2: of layups as she could possibly give somebody coming into
- 34:05Speaker 2: the UFC, especially ron Down. I mean that was that.
- 34:09Speaker 1: That's a joke, Okay.
- 34:11Speaker 2: All I know, not All I know is that Melissam
- 34:16Speaker 2: Owens had three takedowns in her last fight, two takedowns
- 34:19Speaker 2: to fight before that, and one takedown the right fight
- 34:22Speaker 2: before that.
- 34:22Speaker 1: Yeah, she did get kot or whatever it is. I
- 34:25Speaker 1: think that she can put.
- 34:26Speaker 2: Up enough resistance to keep Mosquito from from from winning
- 34:31Speaker 2: the slate.
- 34:32Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah, I mean that's so so so so. Uh.
- 34:36Speaker 2: And as a matter of fact, I think that she
- 34:40Speaker 2: could be the Malik Man, the Marik Man.
- 34:42Speaker 1: Uh.
- 34:43Speaker 2: She does have some marike Man possibilities here. If she
- 34:46Speaker 2: can get like, you know, a takedown and and two
- 34:50Speaker 2: minutes of control time. You know, who knows, Uh, maybe
- 34:54Speaker 2: maybe she gets in there. Now. Again, it's not something
- 34:56Speaker 2: I'm gonna put a lot of money on myself, but
- 34:58Speaker 2: it's one of those things where I run my sims
- 35:00Speaker 2: and I run my process and I get like twelve
- 35:03Speaker 2: percent of mulblins.
- 35:04Speaker 1: I'm like, that's pretty cool, you know what I mean?
- 35:06Speaker 2: Like, so, you know what, So I like to say,
- 35:08Speaker 2: you know, the good thing betting twelve percent of mullins
- 35:10Speaker 2: is that.
- 35:11Speaker 1: Eighty eight percent of my lineups are probably in shape,
- 35:13Speaker 1: you know.
- 35:14Speaker 2: Yeah, but who knows, you know? So I I think
- 35:18Speaker 2: that that that that the Mosquito Fighter.
- 35:20Speaker 1: I mean, she's just.
- 35:21Speaker 2: Like you said, she's a you know, four thousand degree
- 35:25Speaker 2: champion and like stuff that is not UFC. Okay, I'm
- 35:29Speaker 2: just saying it's a little different. Uh So, I'm I'm
- 35:33Speaker 2: probably not going to end up with all that much
- 35:35Speaker 2: of a ninety six hundred dollars women fighter with a
- 35:38Speaker 2: excuse me, but it inside the distance line of is
- 35:40Speaker 2: it even even minus one ten?
- 35:42Speaker 1: No, it's minus two eighty plus two eighty. No, it's
- 35:46Speaker 1: minus mine minus too eighty. Yeah, you know what, maybe
- 35:50Speaker 1: plus one round one? Oh my god minus one twenty
- 35:54Speaker 1: win minus one twenty to win by submission.
- 35:57Speaker 2: Like I said, that's why I let the That's why
- 35:58Speaker 2: I let the calculator do it for me. But I'm
- 36:02Speaker 2: not gonna be the slightest bit surprised if this if
- 36:04Speaker 2: she busts you.
- 36:06Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when you're talking Mullins like this is
- 36:09Speaker 1: numbers and this is I've tried to get better. MMA
- 36:12Speaker 1: is the one sport I deviate a little bit because
- 36:14Speaker 1: I mean, like the projection wise, because you're too smart,
- 36:17Speaker 1: you know too much. Right, No, I'm not. It's definitely
- 36:20Speaker 1: costing me way more than it's helped me. But it's
- 36:22Speaker 1: a sport where I mean, the projection is so much
- 36:25Speaker 1: about win equity and only one person can get those
- 36:27Speaker 1: winning points. And yeah, so I mean I just Melissa
- 36:32Speaker 1: Mallens gets a takedown. I think she gets try and
- 36:33Speaker 1: gold their armbard when she's on top off her back
- 36:37Speaker 1: right away. But with that being said, plus four fifty
- 36:39Speaker 1: to wins eighteen percent, she probably is gonna come in
- 36:42Speaker 1: half of that ownership. And if Melissa Mullins wins this fight,
- 36:46Speaker 1: I mean I think she's gonna score I don't know
- 36:47Speaker 1: how necessarily mosquita gases, she knocks her out, whatever it
- 36:51Speaker 1: may be that way, but forget the inside the distance
- 36:54Speaker 1: prop just money line sixty six hundred eighteen percent and
- 36:57Speaker 1: she'll be lower owned than that. That feels like she's
- 37:00Speaker 1: to me in large Field Attorneys. Next fight on the card,
- 37:04Speaker 1: good real life fight right here. Not sure as much
- 37:07Speaker 1: for DFS. We have Venetias de Olivera taking on Andre
- 37:12Speaker 1: Peeley minus two sixty five Olivera plus two twenty five
- 37:15Speaker 1: Phely minus won thirty for this fight to finish, Olivera
- 37:18Speaker 1: plus one thirty inside the distance Phelly plus four to
- 37:21Speaker 1: twenty five. I mean, I'm I'm the little salty. I
- 37:25Speaker 1: would had the shipper if Olivera beat Mario Batista last
- 37:28Speaker 1: time out. Turns out the dude's fighting with a fractured arm.
- 37:31Speaker 1: He had twenty five seconds of cardio. He talked about
- 37:35Speaker 1: a really bad weight cut, so he moved up from
- 37:37Speaker 1: one thirty five to one forty five for this fight.
- 37:39Speaker 1: And Andre Feely had quite the fight last time as well,
- 37:42Speaker 1: plus four hundred underdog against Jose Delgado, split decision loss.
- 37:47Speaker 1: Was a very very close fight, but man, Andre Pheeley's
- 37:51Speaker 1: been there, done that, always fight for your dollar, he
- 37:54Speaker 1: salid all around, Oliver has power. Yeah, I'm coin flipped
- 37:59Speaker 1: to finish. I'm curious what you're gonna do in this one. Actually,
- 38:01Speaker 1: before you do go this fight. On Tuesday was minus
- 38:04Speaker 1: two thirty. Now it is minus two sixty five, oly Bear,
- 38:08Speaker 1: So he has taken some money since Tuesday. But he
- 38:12Speaker 1: opened minus three fifty and like thirty minutes later was
- 38:15Speaker 1: already down to minus two forty. So line's moved quite
- 38:17Speaker 1: a bit. What are you doing?
- 38:19Speaker 2: I don't know what order, by the way, but we're
- 38:20Speaker 2: gonna get back to the other one, right the Uh.
- 38:23Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going based on the stone, which is what
- 38:25Speaker 1: I'm showing. But yep, I I go based on topology
- 38:30Speaker 1: on Tuesday, so they have it on this order. Sometimes
- 38:32Speaker 1: it gets mixed. I'm looking elsewhere it's higher, but based
- 38:35Speaker 1: on the stone, we'll get to all of them.
- 38:38Speaker 2: Yeah, So I to be honest, I I was a
- 38:42Speaker 2: little You can't be surprised with anything, but I was
- 38:47Speaker 2: a little bit surprised with that decision.
- 38:49Speaker 1: I really did think Pheley won.
- 38:52Speaker 2: I thought that I thought that the grappling in the
- 38:56Speaker 2: second and third round. I really thought that he had
- 38:58Speaker 2: earned it. I was very surprised, actually, and.
- 39:01Speaker 1: I like that Delgado a plus money. I think it
- 39:04Speaker 1: was because one of his takedowns was twenty five seconds left,
- 39:07Speaker 1: which was the round that like it might have been
- 39:10Speaker 1: just too late where I thought he lost the striking before.
- 39:13Speaker 1: But I mean these judges are blind. Anyway.
- 39:15Speaker 2: That was salty because I had I had a lot
- 39:17Speaker 2: of Delgatto and so I was gonna lose regardless as
- 39:20Speaker 2: he wasn't gonna get there DFS wise, you know. So
- 39:23Speaker 2: I was like, well, at least maybe I'll get like
- 39:25Speaker 2: eighty points if the Delgatto wins or something. And I
- 39:27Speaker 2: was actually surprised they gave it to me. I really
- 39:29Speaker 2: thought that feel he had had earned that. He's he's
- 39:33Speaker 2: like a tough out and all of AA is kind.
- 39:35Speaker 1: Of a head case, you know in a way.
- 39:37Speaker 2: But again, like the numbers are pretty good, you know,
- 39:40Speaker 2: plus plus one thirty inside the distance right for for Delgado,
- 39:44Speaker 2: I mean for for Olvera at eighty nine hundred, I
- 39:48Speaker 2: mean sort of similar.
- 39:51Speaker 1: To the Yeah, that's pretty much the same, sort of similar.
- 39:55Speaker 1: I you know, I'm not Cumno's got a little bit
- 39:57Speaker 1: more you know, grappling upside, but.
- 40:00Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that he's right in there, and and
- 40:03Speaker 2: and I would I think that that Peely is just
- 40:07Speaker 2: don't you sort of have to play him at seventy
- 40:09Speaker 2: three hundred.
- 40:10Speaker 1: I mean, I think so he's very competitive in every fighting.
- 40:13Speaker 2: He always, like you said, as title says, he fights
- 40:16Speaker 2: for your dollar, and he fights for your dollar with
- 40:18Speaker 2: with take that also, So yeah, I think that that
- 40:22Speaker 2: that's like underdog you have to play.
- 40:26Speaker 1: I agree. I hope you played some Daniel Shireman in
- 40:30Speaker 1: tournaments for baseball though Grand Salami for the Guardians, so
- 40:34Speaker 1: I know she's always has some action there, but nothing matters,
- 40:38Speaker 1: always an action everywhere. I just I just.
- 40:41Speaker 2: Don't know why people keep playing Carlos. He is just
- 40:43Speaker 2: the freaking worst.
- 40:45Speaker 1: Well I played him in cash today, so that means
- 40:47Speaker 1: he's probably But yeah, I mean, nothing nothing in MLB
- 40:52Speaker 1: until that A's Pittsburgh game means anything today. So the
- 40:56Speaker 1: little Shireman there, Yeah, yeah, I don't love this. Like
- 41:00Speaker 1: Olivera's props in that look good, but like I mean,
- 41:02Speaker 1: I Feely fights for my dollar. He can make it boring.
- 41:05Speaker 1: And if Oliver is not getting a first or second
- 41:07Speaker 1: round finish, and not even all second round finishers are
- 41:09Speaker 1: guaranteed to be optimal. It's a little harder for me.
- 41:13Speaker 1: But with that being said, Olivera hits really hard. He's
- 41:15Speaker 1: now at his proper weight class and Phelly has been
- 41:18Speaker 1: knocked out. He's been finished in seven of his thirteen losses,
- 41:21Speaker 1: and I believe four of those he's been knocked out.
- 41:24Speaker 1: So Olivera is live for a ko at any time.
- 41:26Speaker 1: I do prefer Phey for sixteen hundred less though, next fight.
- 41:32Speaker 2: Scherman, if you pair him with Gavin Williams, you're not happy, though.
- 41:35Speaker 1: I haven't looked at anything. I just you have the
- 41:37Speaker 1: home run notifications on your phone or no? No, thank god,
- 41:41Speaker 1: Oh gosh, she's yeah. Home notification is title town right now,
- 41:46Speaker 1: there you go. No.
- 41:47Speaker 2: Next, Gavin Williams is minus has minus five Fantasy points forland.
- 41:51Speaker 1: What's row Donna, He's got twelve? All right, I'll take
- 41:54Speaker 1: twelve in cash. It was a it was a bad
- 41:57Speaker 1: It was a bad baseball. You played ba You Blake
- 41:59Speaker 1: played baseball? You you really playing all play at all sheets? Yeah?
- 42:04Speaker 1: Play it all all in cash? Not too many attorneys,
- 42:08Speaker 1: all right, we'll keep it rolling. Next fight on the card,
- 42:10Speaker 1: we got Mrtisi Ali mago Metov minus three oh five
- 42:14Speaker 1: taking on Melsick, bagdas Arian plus two fifty five minus
- 42:18Speaker 1: two ten for this fight to finisher or Magametov minus
- 42:21Speaker 1: one ten inside the distance Bagdasari and plus three seventy five.
- 42:25Speaker 1: This mago Metav guy's making his UFC debut off the
- 42:28Speaker 1: contener series ten and oh five wins by Ko, five
- 42:31Speaker 1: wins by sub and he has an Ov at the
- 42:33Speaker 1: end of the name at only nine K. That all
- 42:35Speaker 1: seems pretty good to me. Only gets better when you
- 42:38Speaker 1: see Melsick is just a striker, So it feels like
- 42:41Speaker 1: Magametov should go and get takedowns early, and if he
- 42:43Speaker 1: does so, he has all the upside in the world.
- 42:46Speaker 1: My two favorite high or upper tier plays Levan that
- 42:50Speaker 1: we talked about and mago Metov. They don't break the
- 42:52Speaker 1: bake easy pass for him. Both. With that being said,
- 42:56Speaker 1: I think they're probably two of the highest on on
- 42:58Speaker 1: the slate, which then brings mel Sick in the play
- 43:00Speaker 1: for me, not only because I mean a plus two
- 43:04Speaker 1: fifty five against an Ov that's ten and zero feels
- 43:07Speaker 1: like most of the time it's like minus five hundred
- 43:09Speaker 1: for guys in that spot and that'll Sick's good on
- 43:11Speaker 1: the feet with UFC competition, but I mean his takedown
- 43:14Speaker 1: defense isn't great. I think OV wrestles and puts up
- 43:18Speaker 1: a good score, but I'm interested in this fight for sure.
- 43:21Speaker 1: Was minus one ninety to finish Tuesday now minus two ten.
- 43:25Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean to to turn a to coin a
- 43:29Speaker 2: phrase from from Nads.
- 43:30Speaker 1: I guess we're kind of in agreeance on this one.
- 43:33Speaker 1: Uh you got?
- 43:35Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't even think that he was gonna
- 43:37Speaker 2: do much wrestling. I just think he was just gonna
- 43:39Speaker 2: knock him out. But in either case, he's got like
- 43:41Speaker 2: a a minus inside the distance line at nine k,
- 43:45Speaker 2: that's that's just too low. I mean, if you're looking
- 43:49Speaker 2: to really you know, price these things. When I look
- 43:52Speaker 2: at like ninety one hundred, ninety two hundred dollars fighters,
- 43:54Speaker 2: that's when you need like minus one ten. So here,
- 43:57Speaker 2: nine k is just is just fine. Like him chocole A,
- 44:01Speaker 2: like you mentioned Nacimento, these three guys look very very strong.
- 44:06Speaker 2: So uh, now do you have it in you though?
- 44:09Speaker 2: Titled to go for some leverage and play the Bagdasarian,
- 44:14Speaker 2: you know you hit it right on the head.
- 44:16Speaker 1: I mean in that well you almost did.
- 44:18Speaker 2: You said, he doesn't really have any any striking, but
- 44:22Speaker 2: I don't really care too much.
- 44:24Speaker 1: No, he doesn't, he doesn't have grappling, he hasn't read.
- 44:26Speaker 2: I don't really care too much if the guy he's
- 44:28Speaker 2: against is going to be like really popular. So so
- 44:31Speaker 2: here's the thing you have to everybody's got to understand.
- 44:33Speaker 2: Okay about like this fight again, as I mentioned earlier,
- 44:37Speaker 2: this guy Bagdasarian, whether you believe it or not, is
- 44:40Speaker 2: going to win this fight about twenty five percent of
- 44:42Speaker 2: the time. It seems impossible, right, but but but it's
- 44:46Speaker 2: just the case. I mean, he's he's ad three even
- 44:49Speaker 2: big adjusted and barely a three to one underdog, which
- 44:52Speaker 2: means twenty five percent of the time the dude wins.
- 44:54Speaker 2: So what happens in the twenty five percent of the
- 44:57Speaker 2: time that dude wins, Well, does he score well, I
- 45:01Speaker 2: mean he's got to score something. But more to the point,
- 45:04Speaker 2: on a twelve fight card, he knocks out a guy
- 45:06Speaker 2: that's gonna be really popular.
- 45:07Speaker 1: Now, how popular is it gonna be? Again, same same issue.
- 45:11Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna be that popular because, like
- 45:14Speaker 2: you said, Chill Kelly is gonna take some money. Nascia
- 45:18Speaker 2: Mento is gonna take some money, so maybe it's not
- 45:20Speaker 2: such extreme leverage, but I'm telling you it just doesn't.
- 45:24Speaker 2: I've just seen too much shit. You know, if you
- 45:26Speaker 2: play one fifty and you do just do not do stuff.
- 45:31Speaker 2: I can't impose this upon all you guys. Enough. Do
- 45:34Speaker 2: not x guys out of one fix if you get
- 45:39Speaker 2: if you don't get to them because your projections are
- 45:41Speaker 2: or you know, don't get there. If you don't get
- 45:43Speaker 2: to them because your sins don't get there, that's fine,
- 45:46Speaker 2: but don't manually X them out because in your head
- 45:48Speaker 2: you just can't imagine them winning. This guy is gonna
- 45:51Speaker 2: win this fight twenty five percent of the time, whether
- 45:53Speaker 2: you believe it or not. And when he does, he's
- 45:57Speaker 2: gonna knock out thirty five percent of the pool.
- 46:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you can't. Most of his wins is
- 46:03Speaker 1: well is by finish, he's plus two to fifty five
- 46:05Speaker 1: money line plus three seventy five inside the distance, so
- 46:08Speaker 1: seventy two hundred. Also, like I said, usually when there's
- 46:11Speaker 1: a Magameta of ov that's undefeated when they're making their
- 46:14Speaker 1: UFC debut, that especially against someone that can't grapple. Usually
- 46:18Speaker 1: we see minus five to fifty minus six hundred. This
- 46:21Speaker 1: line is telling me that Melsick is pretty live in
- 46:24Speaker 1: this fight. And to my point about Magameta trying to grapple,
- 46:29Speaker 1: the lines have moved so by TKO Magametta opened plus
- 46:34Speaker 1: two seventy and now he's plus two seventy five. He
- 46:36Speaker 1: open plus two seventy by sub and now he's plus
- 46:38Speaker 1: two twenty five. So some money has come in on
- 46:41Speaker 1: his subprop as well. But definitely a good fight to
- 46:44Speaker 1: target in my opinion. What's up with Taos and what
- 46:48Speaker 1: is up Little Neck? Phenomenal job in the NBA showdown
- 46:51Speaker 1: streets by our man Little Neck. All right, next fight
- 46:55Speaker 1: on the card, we got Andre Lima, the highest priced
- 46:57Speaker 1: and biggest favorites at minus six fifty taking on Kevin
- 47:00Speaker 1: borhas plus four seventy five minus one twenty for this
- 47:03Speaker 1: fight to finish, Lima plus one ten inside the distance.
- 47:06Speaker 1: Borhas plus seven hundred this fight to finish open minus
- 47:11Speaker 1: one fifteen, now minus one twenty. I mean this, this
- 47:15Speaker 1: feels like an easy XL fight. I mean lim I
- 47:18Speaker 1: think needs to wrestle, wrestle wrestle to get there. And
- 47:20Speaker 1: even if he does that, like is one it will
- 47:23Speaker 1: one to twelve be enough in ninety seven hundred, which
- 47:26Speaker 1: I mean one twelve would be amazing for him in
- 47:28Speaker 1: my opinion, So he's better everywhere. Borjas is a striker,
- 47:32Speaker 1: so maybe he wrestles. I mean, yeah, you play one fifty,
- 47:35Speaker 1: you're gonna play some, but let me throw it to you.
- 47:36Speaker 1: If you're playing twenty teams or less, what do you
- 47:38Speaker 1: think you're doing in this one? I will go a
- 47:41Speaker 1: step further. And I've said this before and some of
- 47:43Speaker 1: my other content.
- 47:45Speaker 2: I can't imagine playing a ninety seven hundred dollars fighter,
- 47:48Speaker 2: regardless of what his metrics are.
- 47:50Speaker 1: I mean, if you if.
- 47:51Speaker 2: You sign me up for a first round finish, I
- 47:56Speaker 2: still don't think ninety seven hundred works. You know, the
- 47:59Speaker 2: only the only way a ninety seven hundred works is
- 48:03Speaker 2: if you have one of those cards where you have
- 48:06Speaker 2: that seventy three seventy four hundred dollars fire who's a
- 48:08Speaker 2: replacement fighter?
- 48:09Speaker 1: You know, it's it's just.
- 48:11Speaker 2: So difficult, just the way fifty thousand divides by six
- 48:16Speaker 2: to to to make it with ninety.
- 48:18Speaker 1: Seven hundred, So it almost in a weird.
- 48:21Speaker 2: Way, doesn't matter what his what what what his metrics
- 48:25Speaker 2: are and not to mention the fact is metrics stink,
- 48:29Speaker 2: Like his metrics are plus one or plus plus money
- 48:32Speaker 2: is without really being you know, the big the big
- 48:35Speaker 2: wrestler anyway. So yeah, I'm with you. I uh. And
- 48:40Speaker 2: the problem is also is that if you like Borjas
- 48:43Speaker 2: for some reason, you're not really even you know, getting.
- 48:47Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it's fine, listen, I'm not gonna.
- 48:49Speaker 2: Say that that that I wouldn't sign up for a
- 48:52Speaker 2: Borjas win at sixty at sixty six hundred or whatever,
- 48:55Speaker 2: but Lima's going to be probably what twenty percent on max?
- 49:00Speaker 1: Yeah, so uh.
- 49:03Speaker 2: And the funny thing about Borjas Borjas, it reminds me
- 49:06Speaker 2: of you know, again, in football, they have all those
- 49:10Speaker 2: those coaching trees. You know, they had like the the
- 49:12Speaker 2: Belichick coaching trees where everybody have all these guys that
- 49:15Speaker 2: play for Belichick. You have the the Seafert and Bill
- 49:18Speaker 2: wallsh coach coaching trees, and then you have the the
- 49:20Speaker 2: Gruden coaching trees. Like for whatever reason, like Borjas is
- 49:24Speaker 2: part of this, like Joshua Van like mm a math thing,
- 49:28Speaker 2: Like there's like so many guys that like we're competitive
- 49:32Speaker 2: against Joshua Van that people just keep on like referring
- 49:35Speaker 2: to like every whatever, Like Charles Johnson is like in
- 49:38Speaker 2: a fight, like all people will talk about is how
- 49:41Speaker 2: he beat Joshua Van. And anybody who goes against Charles
- 49:44Speaker 2: Johnson will say, boy the guy beat Charles Johnson, and boy,
- 49:47Speaker 2: Charles Johnson beat Joshua Van. So Joshua Van has like
- 49:50Speaker 2: this weird like it's this weird, like this like this
- 49:53Speaker 2: mma math Tree, so Borjas always is reminded, always reminded
- 49:57Speaker 2: of how competitive.
- 49:58Speaker 1: He was against Joshua Van.
- 50:01Speaker 2: But again, he's only he's only gonna win this fight
- 50:05Speaker 2: what fifteen percent of the time, probably at his price.
- 50:08Speaker 1: And if he's gonna.
- 50:09Speaker 2: Win the five fifty percent of the time, that's not
- 50:11Speaker 2: gonna be good enough unless you could also sign up
- 50:14Speaker 2: for an incredible amount of leverage, which you're just not getting.
- 50:16Speaker 1: So I agree with you xap XP.
- 50:20Speaker 2: I don't actually exit out, but in a you know,
- 50:23Speaker 2: if you're a handbuilding, let's put this way, I wouldn't
- 50:25Speaker 2: play it.
- 50:26Speaker 1: I agree. I think this is one of the worst
- 50:28Speaker 1: fights on the card to target, probably the worst next
- 50:31Speaker 1: fight on the car. This one should be good in
- 50:33Speaker 1: real life for sure Christian Rodriguez minus one seventy five
- 50:36Speaker 1: taking a Hyder a Meal plus one fifty plus one
- 50:39Speaker 1: oh five for this fight to finish a meal the
- 50:41Speaker 1: underdog with a slightly better inside the distance prop at
- 50:44Speaker 1: plus two sixty versus plus two sixty five for c Rod.
- 50:49Speaker 1: I mean any time that I'm getting an underdog with
- 50:52Speaker 1: a slightly better inside the distance prop at plus two
- 50:54Speaker 1: sixty any lands five point eight one significant strikes per minute,
- 50:58Speaker 1: I will definitely be playing some highter Emeal. As far
- 51:00Speaker 1: as the Sea Rod side, He's just a better real
- 51:03Speaker 1: life fighter than dfs. He ruined Ralul Rosas Junior, Austin
- 51:07Speaker 1: Austin Dashie, Isaac Dulgarian, Cameron Simon. He was known as
- 51:11Speaker 1: the prospect killer. He still kind of is. It's a
- 51:16Speaker 1: good fight. Hidermeal is getting up there in age. It's
- 51:18Speaker 1: another thing that stands out. Thirty six is Hyder Emel.
- 51:21Speaker 1: Twenty eight is Christian Rodriguez. I think Emil pushes the
- 51:24Speaker 1: pace in this one. Sea Rod. I expect to mix
- 51:27Speaker 1: in his wrestling and grappling mid tier fight. I'm curious
- 51:30Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts on it and how it compares
- 51:32Speaker 1: to some other mid tier fights like that Shane Collins
- 51:35Speaker 1: fight that we talked about, the Karajosa fight. What do
- 51:37Speaker 1: you think, Yeah, this is gonna be the other one.
- 51:41Speaker 2: You know, I think the Santos Rosa fyte is gonna
- 51:44Speaker 2: make sense from a pricing perspective, and this one's gonna
- 51:47Speaker 2: make sense for a pricing perspective. All so plus, like
- 51:50Speaker 2: you said, I mean, it's all right there in front
- 51:52Speaker 2: of you. You know, if you ask seventy five million
- 51:55Speaker 2: people about this fight, they'll know what that Hydermeal is
- 51:59Speaker 2: very aggressive and he brings it, and he brings it,
- 52:02Speaker 2: and he's seventy eight hundred and and that's that's gonna
- 52:05Speaker 2: be good enough. And he's going to project well, he's
- 52:09Speaker 2: gonna get ownership, which means that you probably have to
- 52:13Speaker 2: play both sides. I mean, I know, typically what's his name,
- 52:17Speaker 2: Sea Rod is not the guy who's not the ceiling guy.
- 52:21Speaker 2: But again, you know, God forbid a Meal ends up
- 52:24Speaker 2: thirty percent owned. Uh, you're just gonna want to have
- 52:27Speaker 2: the other side of that. And you Knowsten sea Rod
- 52:30Speaker 2: likes to likes to counter, likes to counter people, you know,
- 52:33Speaker 2: and and e Meal comes in, comes rushing in and
- 52:36Speaker 2: the next thing. You know, Uh, Sea Rot will get
- 52:39Speaker 2: like maybe a nice second round finish well, second round finished.
- 52:42Speaker 1: B O good enough.
- 52:42Speaker 2: Maybe maybe not at eighty six hundred, But I agree,
- 52:46Speaker 2: I think you have to play both sides of this,
- 52:47Speaker 2: and I think that's a it's a really key fight
- 52:50Speaker 2: in terms of kind of like low risk contests.
- 52:53Speaker 1: Yep, I agree. All right, two fights left, we're chugging along.
- 52:58Speaker 1: We got the co main events. Good size favorite Nava
- 53:01Speaker 1: Ho Sterling minus three thirty taking an eon, Cute Lava
- 53:04Speaker 1: plus two fifty five minus two ten for this fight
- 53:07Speaker 1: to finish, Sterling minus one thirty five inside the distance
- 53:10Speaker 1: Qute Lava plus three seventy five. Kind of what we
- 53:13Speaker 1: talked about. Hyder Emil Cute Lava. He's UFC. Bet has
- 53:17Speaker 1: always been known just to be a crazy man. Paints
- 53:20Speaker 1: his face like the Hulk, the Ankliath fights just like
- 53:23Speaker 1: got comes out guns blazing. But that being said, he's
- 53:26Speaker 1: kind of changed his style a little bit as of late. Uh,
- 53:30Speaker 1: he has a big overhand, he can wrestle in this fight.
- 53:33Speaker 1: Navo is the one that keeps it at distance. He
- 53:36Speaker 1: out points. Yeah, he sticks with his jab. So I'm
- 53:40Speaker 1: like it's minus two ten to finish eight or ninety
- 53:42Speaker 1: two hundred and seven k. Both guys have a clear path.
- 53:45Speaker 1: Navo expected to finish. Eon can wrestle with the solid
- 53:48Speaker 1: inside the distance prop, so it's gonna be owned. I mean,
- 53:51Speaker 1: I think you have to play it, but I do
- 53:53Speaker 1: have a little reservations in it, just in the sense
- 53:56Speaker 1: of if Eon can't wrestle and this I mean Navo
- 54:00Speaker 1: three inches in height four inches in reach, if he
- 54:02Speaker 1: keeps this fight at distance and use that jab and
- 54:04Speaker 1: stick and sticks and moves. As round two finished might
- 54:07Speaker 1: not be enough. Round three probably isn't. And we have
- 54:11Speaker 1: what over one and a half minus one seventy five.
- 54:15Speaker 1: This is tough. I don't think this is the one.
- 54:17Speaker 1: I want to be too crazy over the field, but
- 54:19Speaker 1: I also just don't want to take a huge stand
- 54:21Speaker 1: and be like half underweight. So yeah, I'm this is
- 54:23Speaker 1: one of the ones I was most curious to hear
- 54:25Speaker 1: your take on.
- 54:26Speaker 2: Well, the good thing is this is that like again,
- 54:28Speaker 2: uh Sterling wins his fight seventy five percent of the time,
- 54:31Speaker 2: the Kulaba wins twenty five percent. The thing about this
- 54:34Speaker 2: is that Kudlaba like it his wins. He's gonna smash,
- 54:39Speaker 2: so twenty say, twenty five percent of the time he smashes.
- 54:43Speaker 1: I do think he's gonna get played.
- 54:45Speaker 2: I think people played him before, and I think the Kudlaba,
- 54:48Speaker 2: you know, everybody sees what I see.
- 54:50Speaker 1: And you know, seven K boy.
- 54:54Speaker 2: The other thing, the only thing is that it's very
- 54:56Speaker 2: rare that someone seven K is that popular, you know,
- 54:59Speaker 2: So so maybe he doesn't get that much. Maybe he's
- 55:02Speaker 2: like sixteen seventeen, and I let's put this one. I
- 55:07Speaker 2: think that that Sterling's got a lot more competition in
- 55:11Speaker 2: his range than Kudlaba.
- 55:13Speaker 1: Does it his range.
- 55:15Speaker 2: So I I like Kudlaba, you know, I would say
- 55:18Speaker 2: a lot, but like listen, I can't give absolute lineups
- 55:22Speaker 2: up out. But I just kind of put this together
- 55:24Speaker 2: like as we're kind of going along, and this one
- 55:26Speaker 2: doesn't even have anybody from the main event, and this
- 55:29Speaker 2: type of construction like makes like sense. You know, it's
- 55:34Speaker 2: not so easy to get this least four hundred on
- 55:36Speaker 2: the table too. I don't know if actually gonna play this,
- 55:37Speaker 2: but but this looks pretty good, you know what I mean?
- 55:40Speaker 2: And Kudlab at seventeen, if he wins, he's gonna smash.
- 55:44Speaker 2: How often is gonna win twenty five percent of the
- 55:47Speaker 2: time right, and the seventy five percent of the time
- 55:49Speaker 2: the sterling wins. Is he gonna smash all those times? No? Okay,
- 55:53Speaker 2: So so I definitely think that you have I had
- 55:55Speaker 2: to pick one guy from this fight, it would be Kudolob.
- 55:58Speaker 1: I like it. That breakdown makes a whole lot of
- 56:01Speaker 1: sense to me. Again, just want to head over to
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- 56:55Speaker 1: the main event time. This is a great real life fight.
- 56:58Speaker 1: We got minel Cot minus one sixty taken on Horror
- 57:01Speaker 1: Gucci plus one forty minus won twenty for this fight
- 57:04Speaker 1: to finish, Cop plus one fifty inside the distance Horror
- 57:07Speaker 1: Gucci plus four hundred COP and round one plus six
- 57:11Speaker 1: hundred COP Open minus two seventy five and a whole
- 57:15Speaker 1: lot of money has kept coming on the Horror Gucci side,
- 57:18Speaker 1: and I mean it makes sense. Ever since he got
- 57:20Speaker 1: in second stints in the UFC, he is two to
- 57:23Speaker 1: zero and man is he looked absolutely amazing in those
- 57:27Speaker 1: two fights. Cop is just a striker. So I talked
- 57:31Speaker 1: about it like from the top, I don't love this
- 57:33Speaker 1: fight for DFS, assuming that ownership does come in pretty high.
- 57:37Speaker 1: Horror Gucci is my preferred play for one k less.
- 57:40Speaker 1: Horror Gucci is my pick to win. I think he
- 57:42Speaker 1: has more ways to mix it up at his speed
- 57:45Speaker 1: on the feats really good. I think he can stick
- 57:47Speaker 1: and move. Cop has big boy power though he can
- 57:49Speaker 1: get it done at any time, but it mainly comes
- 57:51Speaker 1: down to Cop wins a decision at eighty six hundred
- 57:54Speaker 1: might not be enough. Cop gets a third round knockout
- 57:57Speaker 1: might not be enough. He is eighty six hundred, He's
- 58:00Speaker 1: not ninety two hundred. So there's a little room to maneuver.
- 58:03Speaker 1: But we talked about some mid tier fights that have
- 58:06Speaker 1: upside or Gucci my preferred play. Obviously you're playing one fifty,
- 58:10Speaker 1: you're not fading it or whatever. But yeah, if you
- 58:12Speaker 1: have like twenty teams, I assume you're having fight phase.
- 58:16Speaker 1: I'm curious what you think though.
- 58:19Speaker 2: Yeah, first of all, your your cash play is actually
- 58:22Speaker 2: get gonna get there.
- 58:23Speaker 1: You have Rodon is his fourteen point four.
- 58:25Speaker 2: To five and they have a three run lead, so
- 58:28Speaker 2: so we get the win bonus eighteen points on.
- 58:31Speaker 1: You'll sign on for that, I believe for sure. You
- 58:34Speaker 1: know how cash games work, though it's it's probably like
- 58:37Speaker 1: eighty percent in the two fifty or seventy five percent.
- 58:40Speaker 1: There you go. I bet okay.
- 58:43Speaker 2: So again, according to the numbers, it's it's a striking battle.
- 58:48Speaker 1: It's five rounds and you know the thing is is
- 58:51Speaker 1: that the.
- 58:52Speaker 2: Problem is that five round the fight being five rounds
- 58:57Speaker 2: helps this fight like more than some of the fights
- 59:00Speaker 2: with you better finishing upside right, because you get five
- 59:05Speaker 2: rounds of volume out of these guys. So if the
- 59:08Speaker 2: fight bus you're talking about still like ninety ish.
- 59:16Speaker 1: You know, ninety five, we did just see bomb Bomb
- 59:20Speaker 1: against ball all get eighty one. That is true. That
- 59:23Speaker 1: is true. Granted he was on the winner shout out,
- 59:25Speaker 1: I got there barely, but not every card you taking
- 59:29Speaker 1: eighty one.
- 59:31Speaker 2: So so again then this is like more like vibes again.
- 59:35Speaker 1: But here's my view, So.
- 59:39Speaker 2: Manel cop I think he's a like legitimate problem, okay,
- 59:44Speaker 2: like like and I've listen, we've all been following him
- 59:47Speaker 2: like kind of since we all got into like into
- 59:50Speaker 2: you know, mm A DFS. And okay, he got smothered
- 59:53Speaker 2: by makaiav whatever.
- 59:56Speaker 1: Broken toe in that too, I think first round.
- 59:59Speaker 2: But but he he Ko and Almabaia in the third round.
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: Whatever it is.
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: Guy's got freaking fast, freaking hands. And then I was
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: getting all pumped for this freaking roy Val fight. You know,
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: there's gonna be some big war between the two of
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: them and Royal and he just dusted him.
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: It's just like you just literally dusted him.
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: And and these guys did fight before.
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: Okay, when when when cop.
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: Was twenty two and and what's his name was twenty
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: eight or whatever it is.
- 1:00:28Speaker 3: Don't look at all though, right, not not not at all,
- 1:00:34Speaker 3: and and I listen and and horror, Gucci came in
- 1:00:40Speaker 3: as barely the as like the underdog to Ullham Beckoff,
- 1:00:44Speaker 3: and he was just awesome.
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: Okay, he he dominated him, and he basically dominated Albazi
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: as well. I don't know, I mean, I don't know
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: if I don't know if I can get if I
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: can continue to bet against this cop dude, you know
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: what I mean? The guy, the guy was just so
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: for looking good against Roy Val. I'm just again, this
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: is why I try not to put my opinions on here,
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: because if I if I look at I I know
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: what I saw.
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: I'm never betting against this guy. I just never am.
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: But like you said, seventy six hundred, if he wins,
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be probably five rounds of just a
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: lot of a lot of a lot of activity, you know,
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: So it's seventy six hundred that's probably gonna be good
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: enough to get there. But the more I think about
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: this fight, the more I kind of like just kind
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: of hoping it doesn't get there, you know what I mean,
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: and just playing some of these other fights and just
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: hoping that that the fight just goes five rounds, and
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: like you said, you get some bondfime thing where the
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: winner scores ninety or something like that, and it's not
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: enough because they've they're both gonna be what what it
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: it be for? Are they gonna be forty percent each
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: or no?
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: See, I think CoP's gonna probably be closer to the
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: thirty five mark, thirty three. Maybe Horror Gucci I'd be higher,
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: probably forty right around that. I think they're similar, but
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: I would if I had to guess right now, I
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: think due to the value not being great and that
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: one K and him taking money, I do think Horror
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: Gucci probably will be higher. I've seen this so many times.
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: You can have all these people like in the discord
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: like say, oh my god, I need Corra Gucci for this,
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: I need Horror Gucci for that, I need Horror Gucci
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: for this, I need Horror Gucci for that. Because like
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: all the favorites have come in or whatever, and then
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: like Cop, just dustin in the first one, you know,
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: like and then but then it looks at a lot of
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: the way who won, who got there, you know, whatever
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: it is, and then it will be like Cop with
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: four hundred with four favorites and Melissamo was with twelve
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: points or something like that.
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: So so talking in existence hopefully not wouldn't be good
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: for me. But yeah, it's definitely a fatable main event.
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: And like the just like my thought from the top
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: when we talked about about nine to the twelve, expected
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: to finish with the two biggest favorites like nine and
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: ninety six under pretty priced appropriately, I don't think we're
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: gonna see anyone above forty five percent owned or maybe
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: right around there. So fingers crossed we keep all twelve
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: because if we do, a spread out card is always fun.
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