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- 0:00Speaker 1: I am all in again.
- 0:17Speaker 2: H I am all in again with Scott Patterson and
- 0:20Speaker 2: iHeartRadio Podcast.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all in Podcast, one
- 0:25Speaker 1: of the productions iHeart Radio Media iHeart Podcast. We are
- 0:30Speaker 1: recapping season three, episode nineteen keg Max exclamation points everywhere.
- 0:37Speaker 1: We have a very special guest. Julie Whitner is an actress, comedian, writer, singer, singer.
- 0:44Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that who. We're going to
- 0:47Speaker 1: talk about everything, but we're really going to talk about
- 0:49Speaker 1: that who is in one episode to get more girls,
- 0:52Speaker 1: but has which is one more than most people on
- 0:55Speaker 1: planet Earth. Let me tell you that has worked on
- 0:59Speaker 1: multiple ta film ROAs throughout her career, including Kaminski Method.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Do you have any Michael Douglas stories? Yes, we're Gonjpez
- 1:08Speaker 1: Versus Lopez Gray's Anatomy, and has done voiceover work for
- 1:13Speaker 1: If You Give a Mouse a Cookie and The Tom
- 1:17Speaker 1: and Jerry Show. She was one of the stars Hall
- 1:20Speaker 1: of Moms who confronted Laurel I in the town Square.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Welcome Julie Wittner.
- 1:25Speaker 3: Hi, Hi, thanks for having me here.
- 1:28Speaker 1: We've got it. Nice to meet you. Nice and we
- 1:32Speaker 1: are let's see let's see April twenty nine, two thousand
- 1:36Speaker 1: and three. It's when in this episode air Laine and
- 1:40Speaker 1: her band get a big gig at a local party,
- 1:42Speaker 1: but all goes wrong when Dean and Jess, or depending
- 1:45Speaker 1: on who yarre it all goes right when Dean and
- 1:48Speaker 1: Jess get into a big fight. Meanwhile, Max finally ends
- 1:53Speaker 1: things with Laurel I for good after the kiss. In
- 1:57Speaker 1: one of television's most awkward scenes, Luke and Nicole stay
- 2:03Speaker 1: at the inn and gets and and things get awkward.
- 2:08Speaker 3: So many awkward moments, and.
- 2:09Speaker 1: There was that's that's defining term for the episode. Chris
- 2:14Speaker 1: Long directed Dan Palladino wrote it, Julie, what do you
- 2:21Speaker 1: think of this episode? Overall?
- 2:22Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I mean, so many fun moments, so
- 2:26Speaker 2: many awkward moments.
- 2:29Speaker 3: I have some favorites, but uh yeah, I loved it.
- 2:33Speaker 3: I mean I love all.
- 2:35Speaker 2: The episodes I've seen of this show, and this one
- 2:39Speaker 2: was no exclusion.
- 2:42Speaker 1: Well, Lane, Lane in her band big gig. You know,
- 2:45Speaker 1: they're playing the party. It's a lot of pressure, so.
- 2:49Speaker 2: Much pressure, so much pressure that she ends up doing
- 2:53Speaker 2: some naughty things.
- 2:56Speaker 1: Do you here's a question for you, right, yes, do
- 2:59Speaker 1: you think they Avrakowski was a bit out of character
- 3:03Speaker 1: being jealous over Young Chew because it kind of hit
- 3:07Speaker 1: me like, wow, where did this come from. He's like
- 3:11Speaker 1: the coolest customer in the world, right, good guy, clearly
- 3:18Speaker 1: adores Lane. But you know, all of a sudden, he's
- 3:23Speaker 1: kind of in her face, like what is this young
- 3:25Speaker 1: Chew thing? Like it's some big deal when he always
- 3:28Speaker 1: understood what it was. Right. Do you think it was
- 3:31Speaker 1: a little bit of an overreaction on his partner.
- 3:33Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 3:33Speaker 2: I was just wondering why he it bothered him so much, Like, right, he.
- 3:39Speaker 3: Knows how she feels.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Maybe he's just over it that she's not coming clean
- 3:45Speaker 2: with him, but like, what is what are the stakes
- 3:47Speaker 2: in it for him?
- 3:49Speaker 1: Right? His little little heart, his little heart going to
- 3:52Speaker 1: get crushed.
- 3:53Speaker 2: His little heart is very sad. And I'm said about it,
- 3:57Speaker 2: but I felt bad for Young Chew. I was like, oh, no,
- 4:02Speaker 2: he was so patient. I left how he was just
- 4:04Speaker 2: sitting there with his arm around an empty chair.
- 4:06Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that young true stuff was hysterical. Did you
- 4:10Speaker 1: see how when Zach approached him to talk to him,
- 4:13Speaker 1: Young Cheo gotten a karate stance. I didn't know.
- 4:19Speaker 3: I didn't notice that that's starts.
- 4:21Speaker 1: I got ready martial arts. It was funny, all right.
- 4:25Speaker 1: So the band's rehearsing, they can't come up with a name.
- 4:28Speaker 2: The names are too long, the names are too short,
- 4:32Speaker 2: the names are.
- 4:33Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just kind of kind of funny. And I
- 4:36Speaker 1: can relate to that. I started bands in third grade,
- 4:41Speaker 1: and and we named ourselves the Unknowns, which is the
- 4:45Speaker 1: stupidest name you could have for a band, but true,
- 4:48Speaker 1: but honest, that's who we were, real, honest, authentic unknown,
- 4:56Speaker 1: tempting someone to make us fans.
- 4:58Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a band for our theater. Our theater
- 5:00Speaker 3: had a band. We were called Brando's Pants.
- 5:04Speaker 2: And the reason it was Brando's Pants is one of
- 5:06Speaker 2: the band members had an actual pair of Brando's pants
- 5:09Speaker 2: that he used as a curtain where we would rehearse.
- 5:13Speaker 2: So we were joking one day, Someone's like, well, obviously
- 5:15Speaker 2: we're Brando's pants, and it's stuck.
- 5:17Speaker 1: So somebody in the plate, not Brando's actual pants, but.
- 5:21Speaker 3: Somebody Brando's actual pants.
- 5:23Speaker 1: How did somebody in the cast have a pair of
- 5:25Speaker 1: Marlon Brando's actual pants.
- 5:27Speaker 3: I don't recall he I don't know if it was
- 5:30Speaker 3: an auction or.
- 5:31Speaker 2: What it was, but they were they were gigantic and
- 5:34Speaker 2: they were his pants.
- 5:35Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that is hysterical. Yeah, Brando's pants. Can I
- 5:41Speaker 1: use that? I want to use that?
- 5:43Speaker 3: Why not?
- 5:44Speaker 1: I really like that.
- 5:45Speaker 3: Yeah, and if.
- 5:46Speaker 2: You start your band again, yeah, we were a classic
- 5:50Speaker 2: classic rock band.
- 5:51Speaker 3: But yeah it covers. But yeah, Brando's pants.
- 5:56Speaker 1: That's interesting. We're going to talk about that. But we
- 5:59Speaker 1: gotta we gotta get do this like Gilmore girls stuff.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Let you're talking about the music, all right, So you
- 6:06Speaker 1: know this is a lot of Jess and Dean and
- 6:10Speaker 1: Rory stuff and band stuff and it's all kind of
- 6:14Speaker 1: putting the blender there at that party, somebody flips the
- 6:18Speaker 1: switch and man, it all just starts spinning, right yeah Jess, Wow.
- 6:25Speaker 3: Wow, what is going on? Port chat? I feel like
- 6:28Speaker 3: he really needs some help.
- 6:29Speaker 1: He you you tried, I try, you tried, you try,
- 6:34Speaker 1: you try, you try, and then you know, you put
- 6:37Speaker 1: you put your best effort in. But man, he misses
- 6:40Speaker 1: forty one.
- 6:40Speaker 3: Days and he's surprised.
- 6:43Speaker 1: I was disappointed in Lawrence Hilton. Jacob's not giving him
- 6:48Speaker 1: a chance to catch up. I want I wanted him
- 6:50Speaker 1: to give it, give him a chance to catch up.
- 6:53Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was that he was a little
- 6:54Speaker 3: harsh at the end. There.
- 6:55Speaker 1: It's very harsh. Yeah, like like the kids, the kids
- 7:00Speaker 1: in a bind. You know, he's got to work a
- 7:03Speaker 1: couple jobs. He doesn't have to, but he wants to
- 7:06Speaker 1: because he's you know, but boy, you don't take school
- 7:09Speaker 1: seriously and stars Hall. Look in Connecticut, now that's a
- 7:13Speaker 1: big deal, you know, like other states, not it doesn't matter,
- 7:17Speaker 1: but like.
- 7:17Speaker 2: Connecticut, California, they would just be like whatever, dude.
- 7:21Speaker 1: Right, they'd offer you a cigarette or something, you know,
- 7:25Speaker 1: smoke on your way out. No, that's actually not true.
- 7:29Speaker 1: California is very rigorous. Not cigarettes, no, No, well different
- 7:34Speaker 1: maybe a different kind pre rolled what But Connecticut there,
- 7:41Speaker 1: you don't mess around in Connecticut. You don't mess around
- 7:43Speaker 1: in a Connecticut.
- 7:44Speaker 3: Education is very important.
- 7:47Speaker 1: You know, you're in the Northeast. You don't mess around.
- 7:49Speaker 1: They'll just they'll just hit the ejector button on you.
- 7:52Speaker 1: Like Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, you do not
- 7:57Speaker 1: mess around in public schools anyway. Yeah, So there you
- 8:03Speaker 1: go by Jess And uh, he's not taking it too well.
- 8:06Speaker 1: As a seventeen year old wouldn't take it very well.
- 8:11Speaker 1: And poor Rory right.
- 8:15Speaker 2: Going on.
- 8:15Speaker 3: She just knows he's he's in a pissy mood.
- 8:18Speaker 1: Any any any you know he uh he inappropriately he
- 8:25Speaker 1: gets it too aggressive with her, you know, in a
- 8:28Speaker 1: in a situation that is that is not terribly romantic
- 8:33Speaker 1: and way that was. That was that was a tough
- 8:37Speaker 1: scene to watch.
- 8:38Speaker 3: It was intense.
- 8:38Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very intense, unexpected. Well, well, what did you
- 8:44Speaker 1: think of the Dean and Jess fight. Did you enjoy that?
- 8:48Speaker 1: I was well done, well done.
- 8:50Speaker 3: Well done? Yeah, I was.
- 8:52Speaker 2: I was scared. I was scared for the house. I mean,
- 8:54Speaker 2: we knew that was going to happen, right, he wrapped
- 8:56Speaker 2: up all that. But I do want to know how
- 8:58Speaker 2: the it wasn't a ya drow it was a Himmel, right,
- 9:01Speaker 2: I do want to know how the himmel.
- 9:03Speaker 3: Was it a Himmel that got broke?
- 9:05Speaker 1: That the punch, the entire that entire storyline was just
- 9:10Speaker 1: a set up for that one joke.
- 9:11Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's how I would be at a party
- 9:14Speaker 2: by de party. Well, first of all, mom, Dad, I
- 9:16Speaker 2: never had a party in the house, but that's how
- 9:18Speaker 2: I would be. I'd be like, don't don't drop anything,
- 9:20Speaker 2: don't don't break anything.
- 9:23Speaker 3: But yeah, of course the.
- 9:24Speaker 2: Himmel gets broken and oh man, the parents sitting there
- 9:27Speaker 2: watching them clean up. But yeah, I thought the fight
- 9:31Speaker 2: was was very well done and realistic.
- 9:35Speaker 1: I thought Lane's drunken call to her mother was was
- 9:40Speaker 1: terrific acting and really funny, very funny. And I thought
- 9:47Speaker 1: the band stuff was really good, really funny.
- 9:52Speaker 2: I loved Rory introducing the band like just digging, digging
- 9:55Speaker 2: a hole, right, right, like.
- 9:58Speaker 3: Get out, just get just leave.
- 10:02Speaker 1: Jess wants to leave. He's just being mopey. He's angry,
- 10:06Speaker 1: he's hurt. He doesn't know what to say to her.
- 10:09Speaker 1: He can't tell her what happened. He's full of shame and.
- 10:14Speaker 3: So much shame.
- 10:16Speaker 1: The poor kid, poor.
- 10:17Speaker 3: Kid, well you know, but okay.
- 10:21Speaker 1: But she handled it very well, you know, calling him
- 10:24Speaker 1: Grandpa and mister grumpy. Yes, she's what's up, mister dark Cloud?
- 10:28Speaker 1: You know this guy. She's just trying to get her
- 10:31Speaker 1: right and you know, yeah, of course she has to
- 10:36Speaker 1: stay there for Wayne and support her, and that's what
- 10:39Speaker 1: this is.
- 10:40Speaker 3: I love how she stands her aground.
- 10:42Speaker 2: I love how she knows what's right and what's wrong,
- 10:46Speaker 2: and she knows how to be a good friend. Everybody
- 10:48Speaker 2: needs a Rory as your best friend and as Sookie
- 10:52Speaker 2: as your best friend.
- 10:53Speaker 3: You need you need both those characters as your best friend.
- 10:55Speaker 1: M m hmm. Well, I like the drunken call to mom.
- 11:01Speaker 1: I don't. I guess in the next episode we're going
- 11:04Speaker 1: to have to see how her mother reacts to that.
- 11:07Speaker 1: I hope we get to see how her mother that.
- 11:09Speaker 1: You know, the the repercussions of this phone call could
- 11:14Speaker 1: be an entire episode. Yeah, And it looks like Dave
- 11:19Speaker 1: Rigowski is done with this arrangement. He's out.
- 11:26Speaker 3: Is this Max?
- 11:28Speaker 1: No No, David, No No Dave Dave David Galski the
- 11:33Speaker 1: character of Dave Yes, the band member who Adam Brody
- 11:37Speaker 1: who breaks up with Lane Oh at the party because
- 11:41Speaker 1: he's like done with the young Choo thing. I'm trying it.
- 11:45Speaker 1: I want to do the party stuff and then move on.
- 11:47Speaker 3: Let's just do the party stuff.
- 11:49Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's done.
- 11:51Speaker 3: He's done.
- 11:52Speaker 1: He's like, I can't, I can't, I can't do this anymore.
- 11:55Speaker 3: He's like, I can't be in this for the both
- 11:57Speaker 3: of us. You're in or you're out right.
- 11:59Speaker 1: It's like and he understands the situation, you know, it's
- 12:04Speaker 1: just a big night for him. The band's debuting, right,
- 12:09Speaker 1: is this their first gig? I think it might be
- 12:11Speaker 1: their first one.
- 12:12Speaker 3: Yeah, it's their first one. Why is Young Chuw even there?
- 12:15Speaker 1: Because that's the only way that Lane could get out
- 12:18Speaker 1: of the house. If if missus Kim sees Young Chew
- 12:23Speaker 1: and we're going out on a date, Mommy, mama, Mama,
- 12:26Speaker 1: she calls her mama, then it's cool. So he's the front.
- 12:30Speaker 1: He's just the front, and he doesn't mind being the front.
- 12:32Speaker 1: He's so in love with her. Okay, but yeah, heck
- 12:35Speaker 1: of a fight. And the episode ends on that fight,
- 12:40Speaker 1: the cops breaking up, and Lane heaving into the bushes
- 12:44Speaker 1: as we as. At my high school parties are the
- 12:49Speaker 1: ones that I attended, there was there was always a
- 12:51Speaker 1: couple of people heaving in the bushes. So boy, did
- 12:56Speaker 1: the memories came flooding back.
- 12:58Speaker 3: Did you have somebody helping you holding your digit? Have
- 13:01Speaker 3: long hair holding your hair?
- 13:03Speaker 1: I never got out of control.
- 13:06Speaker 3: Me neither.
- 13:07Speaker 1: No, No, I was not that guy. No, I would
- 13:11Speaker 1: have I'd sip on a beer, you know, and that
- 13:15Speaker 1: would be about it.
- 13:17Speaker 2: I'm sort of still like that, like two SIPs, three
- 13:20Speaker 2: SIPs of a beer, and I'm drunk. No, oh really,
- 13:23Speaker 2: I have no tolerance at all.
- 13:27Speaker 1: I used to get SIPs of beer from my dad
- 13:29Speaker 1: when I was like eight or nine. He would drink
- 13:32Speaker 1: he would drink Rolling Rock out of these green bottles,
- 13:35Speaker 1: and you know, he'd pour a little bit in the
- 13:37Speaker 1: glass and I'd have some Yeah. Right, yeah.
- 13:41Speaker 2: My parents were like that too, They were like, do
- 13:42Speaker 2: you want to taste it? And I think that's why
- 13:44Speaker 2: I never had a fascination with.
- 13:45Speaker 1: It, right exactly, Oh yeah, this taste good.
- 13:48Speaker 2: Or man, I don't like this, you know, but yeah,
- 13:51Speaker 2: not not super protective about about that, which maybe is.
- 13:56Speaker 3: A good thing.
- 13:57Speaker 1: In the late eighties, there was a there was a
- 13:59Speaker 1: bar in New York City called Peggy Suits since burned down.
- 14:04Speaker 1: I went there a lot, and I tasted a lot
- 14:06Speaker 1: of my dad's beer in there, so to speak.
- 14:12Speaker 2: You're sitting at the bar school next to him. You
- 14:18Speaker 2: would get a flight of beers and you would talk
- 14:20Speaker 2: about the the undertones of the.
- 14:26Speaker 1: Was a great club because they wouldn't allow they wouldn't
- 14:30Speaker 1: allow Wall Street types in. They wouldn't allow anybody from
- 14:35Speaker 1: Long Island. Then it was just neighborhood. It was the
- 14:39Speaker 1: neighborhood bar who.
- 14:41Speaker 3: Allowed twelve year olds to sit with their parents.
- 14:45Speaker 1: There was there was a there was a bouncer there
- 14:48Speaker 1: named Bernard who was six foot nine and he ran
- 14:54Speaker 1: a tight ship. Let me tell you so, it was
- 14:56Speaker 1: a great Bartygo playpool and have a beer with your friends,
- 15:00Speaker 1: and then it burned down. We're all very sad. Oh well,
- 15:03Speaker 1: you know this was this was an episode for the kids.
- 15:07Speaker 1: You know, this was Rory drama, Rory Jess Dean drama,
- 15:10Speaker 1: Lane drama, comedy, good stuff. It almost like it could
- 15:16Speaker 1: be its own show. Right. You wouldn't really need the
- 15:19Speaker 1: adults at all. You wouldn't need Laurel I, you wouldn't
- 15:23Speaker 1: need Luke, you wouldn't need any of the people. Dare
- 15:25Speaker 1: I said. It's blasphemy. I know, but but that could
- 15:29Speaker 1: exist in its own universe, especially on the CW network.
- 15:32Speaker 1: I wonder if they ever approached Amy and said, you
- 15:37Speaker 1: want to write a show just for the kids, it'd be.
- 15:39Speaker 2: Like just a bottle episode where it would just be
- 15:41Speaker 2: like very focused on this one, right, this one.
- 15:46Speaker 3: We just could watch the rehearsal.
- 15:48Speaker 1: For the entire all right, let's go to the end,
- 16:02Speaker 1: all right, because there's stuff happening at the end. Oh,
- 16:04Speaker 1: so much stuff, lots of stuff. Laurel's got a layoff
- 16:08Speaker 1: an employee, and so she gives that not so pleasant
- 16:14Speaker 1: test to Michelle. He doesn't want to do it because
- 16:16Speaker 1: the employee has puppies that Michelle bought and is now
- 16:20Speaker 1: taken care of, and he's just going all noodlely only
- 16:24Speaker 1: on the puppies. So he doesn't want to fire the guy.
- 16:27Speaker 1: Laurele I offers to have Luke and Nicole stay at
- 16:31Speaker 1: the end before they go skiing. Can you see Luke skiing?
- 16:37Speaker 1: Is he a ski skier? I mean fishing, yes, skiing.
- 16:45Speaker 3: I feel like he'd get up on some skis.
- 16:48Speaker 1: I almost feel like he wouldn't want to do it
- 16:50Speaker 1: in case he got injured and then he couldn't run
- 16:53Speaker 1: his diner.
- 16:54Speaker 2: Do you think he thinks like that much forward? Do
- 16:59Speaker 2: you think he was worried getting hurt? I feel like
- 17:01Speaker 2: he's like a strong, big guy like I don't you
- 17:03Speaker 2: think did he did? Did he worry about getting hurt often?
- 17:07Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't It's just I don't know.
- 17:10Speaker 1: It just seems for me it was like skiing. But
- 17:13Speaker 1: I think I think he's doing it because she wants
- 17:15Speaker 1: to do it.
- 17:16Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right.
- 17:18Speaker 1: Because Nicole, Nicole wants to do it. But what you know,
- 17:21Speaker 1: waking up at five am and she's going to drive
- 17:23Speaker 1: from where's she driving.
- 17:24Speaker 3: From New York?
- 17:25Speaker 1: I think it was New York City and she's going
- 17:27Speaker 1: to drive up there and then they're going to go skiing. Well, uh,
- 17:31Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's it's it's a it's a
- 17:32Speaker 1: vibe vibe and so Laurel I has to come in
- 17:38Speaker 1: to their room. She didn't realize that, you know, she
- 17:41Speaker 1: offered Luke the room. This is after my proudest moment
- 17:47Speaker 1: in film, uh, with the butt scene.
- 17:51Speaker 3: Yes, that was a great scene.
- 17:53Speaker 1: I mean the fact that you know this, I had
- 17:57Speaker 1: an opportunity to star in a butt scene. It's it's
- 18:05Speaker 1: it's a proud moment for me and I'll carry it
- 18:08Speaker 1: with me forever.
- 18:09Speaker 3: Yes, And they did not make it uncomfortable for you.
- 18:11Speaker 1: At all, just an honor.
- 18:14Speaker 2: There was a lot of that in this episode, right,
- 18:16Speaker 2: There was a lot of like taking your picture, making
- 18:19Speaker 2: you a comfortable looking the picture right right, looking at
- 18:24Speaker 2: your butt, camera shots of your butt.
- 18:26Speaker 1: Right, She just like with a flash on, just like
- 18:29Speaker 1: takes a picture of me tells me, I got forty
- 18:32Speaker 1: mile a bad road under my eyes. Yes, she's a charmer.
- 18:40Speaker 3: Was the real was the real film in there? Well?
- 18:43Speaker 2: It was a digital camera, right, it was like her
- 18:45Speaker 2: first digital camera.
- 18:46Speaker 1: I guess maybe. Yeah. Yeah.
- 18:48Speaker 3: Was it a bad picture of you?
- 18:50Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean probably. I mean the chances
- 18:53Speaker 1: are very good that it was not a good picture.
- 18:56Speaker 2: Okay, So Melissa mccarth, so uzuoki and or a liar
- 19:00Speaker 2: talking about your butt with you sitting.
- 19:02Speaker 3: There, You took you you were very calm, You took
- 19:06Speaker 3: it very well.
- 19:08Speaker 1: I thought Lou handled it very well.
- 19:10Speaker 3: Yes, Lou handled it very well.
- 19:13Speaker 1: He handled it better than Scott would have handled it.
- 19:17Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much, all right. And then Michelle
- 19:20Speaker 1: comes in, Well we already we are. Now we got
- 19:24Speaker 1: the puppies names, the chow puppies he adopted were po
- 19:31Speaker 1: And now we get to see another side of Michelle, Right,
- 19:35Speaker 1: we get to see this, you know, the antithesis of
- 19:39Speaker 1: what we normally see.
- 19:40Speaker 3: Yeah, he's freaking out.
- 19:42Speaker 1: Hates people, he's so overwhelmed, loves puppies.
- 19:49Speaker 3: Yeah, they've become his children, they've become right, Yeah.
- 19:55Speaker 1: I mean the one eighty the personality, the change in
- 19:59Speaker 1: personnel from dealing with people. They are all stupid, they
- 20:05Speaker 1: are all idiots. I don't want to deal with these mornes.
- 20:07Speaker 1: Then then you've got puppies, and then we see which
- 20:10Speaker 1: is the real Michelle Julie is there one?
- 20:14Speaker 3: I think that's just, you know, two sides of I know.
- 20:18Speaker 1: I meduality of man.
- 20:21Speaker 2: So many who would choose animals over people like this,
- 20:27Speaker 2: so I don't think it's uncommon.
- 20:30Speaker 3: And they've they've you know, they've dug a little they
- 20:33Speaker 3: dug a little hole in his soft, little gushy center.
- 20:36Speaker 3: We found it.
- 20:39Speaker 2: He's a Mentos all right, Yeah, he's he's got a
- 20:43Speaker 2: soft gushy center for animals.
- 20:46Speaker 1: All right, Well okay, now we have and he has
- 20:49Speaker 1: no softness or gushiness for people. Oh there's a nothing
- 20:55Speaker 1: but Steele. So lorele I offers Luke a free night
- 21:01Speaker 1: at the end with Nicole to help us with our
- 21:04Speaker 1: ski trip. Yes, why don't you just stay here Friday night?
- 21:08Speaker 1: He doesn't, He doesn't tell her that he's going to
- 21:11Speaker 1: take her up on that. She walks in at an
- 21:16Speaker 1: opportune moment, because it could have been an opportune moment
- 21:20Speaker 1: on the two of them, and there's Luke on the bed.
- 21:22Speaker 1: What are you doing here? You know this kind thing?
- 21:24Speaker 1: All right? She's turned down service she's offering, and what
- 21:27Speaker 1: an awkward position everybody is in.
- 21:32Speaker 3: And that scene was so long.
- 21:35Speaker 2: Yes, we just felt every awkward moment.
- 21:40Speaker 3: It was so good.
- 21:41Speaker 1: And she had to you know, of course she had
- 21:43Speaker 1: to double down on it and stay and just not leave,
- 21:47Speaker 1: just to try to prove that it's not bothering her
- 21:50Speaker 1: at all. Right, so funny.
- 21:53Speaker 3: And you guys, I mean it.
- 21:54Speaker 2: Was so awkward for you too, for both of you,
- 21:56Speaker 2: and you're just sitting there going please.
- 21:58Speaker 1: Please go.
- 22:01Speaker 3: Right, no, no, no, this is my job.
- 22:04Speaker 1: And you know what, I almost finished her sentence for
- 22:08Speaker 1: because the writing was so good. When she finally turned
- 22:10Speaker 1: down the bed sheet, she shoot him off the bed.
- 22:14Speaker 1: She rolled down the sheets and she goes, now you
- 22:17Speaker 1: two are ready to yes, do whatever you're gonna do.
- 22:24Speaker 3: I love that she's like making it. She's like straight corners,
- 22:27Speaker 3: nice and tight. Straight. Course, she just can't stop the
- 22:31Speaker 3: verbal diarrhea. It was just like, you can't stop funny.
- 22:35Speaker 1: It's so funny. That was That was a great scene,
- 22:38Speaker 1: Such a good scene. That a great scene.
- 22:41Speaker 2: Yeah, and your date, Nicole, Right, Nicole, Nicole, She's just.
- 22:46Speaker 3: Like, I, right, I don't want to be here right now.
- 22:51Speaker 2: But in the beginning she's like, sure, come on in,
- 22:53Speaker 2: thank you, Like she doesn't know it's going to be
- 22:55Speaker 2: so awkward.
- 22:55Speaker 3: Right.
- 22:56Speaker 1: Nicole is very good at making her territory, I believe,
- 23:03Speaker 1: because she she wasn't going to back off one inch,
- 23:07Speaker 1: and she wasn't going to help Lorelei with her awkward situation.
- 23:12Speaker 1: She was just going to sit there and look at her,
- 23:15Speaker 1: you know, which was probably the thing that was making
- 23:18Speaker 1: her the most nervous. Very funny, all right. So we
- 23:22Speaker 1: have the Booster Club and the Max Medina Laureley situation.
- 23:29Speaker 1: More awkward stuff. So lrel I gets this letter from
- 23:34Speaker 1: Chilton asking her to be more involved in her daughter's school.
- 23:40Speaker 1: So she shows up in a meeting, they make her treasurer,
- 23:43Speaker 1: and they talk about the graduation party being on a yacht.
- 23:51Speaker 1: And then Max shows up to the meeting and talks
- 23:54Speaker 1: to laurle I like any other person there, playing it cool,
- 24:00Speaker 1: he says, later, but and and then so Laura I
- 24:06Speaker 1: can't get his attention, can't you know, get him to
- 24:09Speaker 1: give her a little private glance or a smile or
- 24:11Speaker 1: a look, and he's just like nah. He's like Humphrey Bogart,
- 24:15Speaker 1: just like nope. And then she's doing a walk and
- 24:20Speaker 1: talk with Suki and uh. She tells Suk the next
- 24:25Speaker 1: day he was playing it cool. Even though they kissed
- 24:31Speaker 1: at that speech event, she doesn't know actually what she's feeling.
- 24:36Speaker 3: So, and this is one of my favorite scenes.
- 24:40Speaker 1: Is talk about It. Talk about So.
- 24:42Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of Suki and Melissa McCarthy and
- 24:45Speaker 2: it's the back and forth between them and Suki playing this.
- 24:50Speaker 3: Game that Lauraai is just like no.
- 24:53Speaker 2: She's like, you didn't maybe you didn't really kiss him,
- 24:55Speaker 2: it was just in your all, in your head. And
- 24:57Speaker 2: she's giving examples and she's so forcing this issue.
- 25:01Speaker 3: And then till Laura I gets you know, she's like stop,
- 25:04Speaker 3: it happened. It really happened.
- 25:06Speaker 2: And there's a line that Sukie says where she's like,
- 25:11Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be able to recreate it. But it's
- 25:13Speaker 2: like okay, what She's like, okay already or something. And
- 25:18Speaker 2: I watched that moment twenty times. I'm not I'm not exaggerating.
- 25:22Speaker 3: It's so funny. I don't know if she.
- 25:24Speaker 2: Says, oh this is She goes, okay, calm down, but
- 25:27Speaker 2: she says calm down in like this growl, and then
- 25:30Speaker 2: looks down and then glances back.
- 25:32Speaker 3: Up at Laura, I like, have you forgiven me?
- 25:36Speaker 2: I don't know what was going through her head, but
- 25:38Speaker 2: it is such an incredibly funny moment.
- 25:42Speaker 3: Go back and watch it. It's amazing. But anyway, I
- 25:46Speaker 3: love that.
- 25:47Speaker 2: I love that, you know. And then they're like, the
- 25:48Speaker 2: only thing that's going to cure this is just having lunch.
- 25:50Speaker 2: But it's that moment between them where they have their
- 25:54Speaker 2: own agenda. I just think it's brilliant, brilliant writing, as
- 25:58Speaker 2: all of it is.
- 25:59Speaker 1: But so then at the next Booster club meeting and
- 26:04Speaker 1: Laurel is looking around for Max a little bit he's
- 26:07Speaker 1: not there. And then Max is replaced by a woman
- 26:12Speaker 1: who is the head of the drama department, and Laurel
- 26:16Speaker 1: is a bit crestfallen. Then Paris shows up because they
- 26:20Speaker 1: give Paris a few minutes to tell them why this
- 26:24Speaker 1: yacht club idea is a very bad idea, and true
- 26:28Speaker 1: to form, Paris walks in and delivers the goods and
- 26:32Speaker 1: tells them they're all stupid and they're all going to
- 26:35Speaker 1: get they're all going to get sued and it's going
- 26:37Speaker 1: to end up in tears. Walks away, and then they
- 26:40Speaker 1: just go back to their conversation about about the yacht,
- 26:44Speaker 1: like you knows.
- 26:46Speaker 3: Like you know what happened. They literally watched her. They
- 26:49Speaker 3: looked kind of interested.
- 26:50Speaker 2: She gave this amazing speech, you know, I think it
- 26:53Speaker 2: was like almost a sixty second speech, very confident.
- 26:57Speaker 3: Walks out, and then they just turned back as if
- 26:58Speaker 3: she was never there.
- 27:00Speaker 1: It's so good, so good, so.
- 27:04Speaker 3: Good, hilarious.
- 27:15Speaker 1: So Laurel I leaves the meeting to go to the bathroom.
- 27:20Speaker 1: Another little scene with the janitor was do you know
- 27:22Speaker 1: where the bathroom is? It points behind me, but she
- 27:25Speaker 1: knows where Max is. Af she goes, no, I think
- 27:26Speaker 1: I'm gonna go this way, like right, She's so nervous
- 27:34Speaker 1: that she's got to explain herself to the jenitor. But
- 27:39Speaker 1: she finds Max. He's in his room, he's grading papers
- 27:41Speaker 1: and he's eating a he's eating a sandwich, right, and uh,
- 27:48Speaker 1: you know, let the awkward. This was like the Olympics
- 27:51Speaker 1: of awkward. I mean, if you were like having a competition,
- 27:54Speaker 1: who can be the most awkward, the most awkward scene.
- 27:57Speaker 1: I think this would be it. Talk about this scene?
- 28:01Speaker 1: How did this scene hit you? Have you ever been
- 28:04Speaker 1: in this situation, by.
- 28:05Speaker 4: The way, I mean, I think I've been in situations
- 28:08Speaker 4: where where you you weren't sure how someone feels or
- 28:12Speaker 4: it's the relationship is done, and then you're in the
- 28:15Speaker 4: room with them and you don't know if it's I've
- 28:18Speaker 4: been in that situation, but I've never pursued it.
- 28:22Speaker 3: And I've been as honest as Laura l I was.
- 28:24Speaker 2: She's like, you're ignoring me and getting He's like, stick,
- 28:27Speaker 2: keep your distance, and she keeps getting closer, and.
- 28:30Speaker 3: You know she is. She really was pushing.
- 28:35Speaker 2: And I just thought the choreography of the whole thing,
- 28:38Speaker 2: the dance of the whole thing, I thought was so
- 28:40Speaker 2: well done with Max, like, you know, keeping the distance
- 28:45Speaker 2: the football player distance or no basketball player.
- 28:49Speaker 3: One basketball player distance.
- 28:51Speaker 1: Like a really large basketball player.
- 28:55Speaker 2: Ten feet and putting like furniture in front of him,
- 28:57Speaker 2: and anytime she got closer, he would move the furniture
- 28:59Speaker 2: in front of him. I just thought it was hilarious,
- 29:02Speaker 2: well done, so uncomfortable, and I wasn't I wasn't expecting
- 29:07Speaker 2: him to to stand his.
- 29:09Speaker 1: Ground so much he said, no, she turned man, you
- 29:13Speaker 1: turn a guy down. Who's that in love?
- 29:17Speaker 3: But here she is saying I might be interested again.
- 29:20Speaker 1: But it's he's protecting his widow heart. Yeah, he got broken.
- 29:25Speaker 3: So many broken hearts in this episode.
- 29:27Speaker 1: A lot of broken hearts here. You know, there's there's, there's.
- 29:32Speaker 1: Rory's heart is broken. Just his heart is broken. Young
- 29:35Speaker 1: Chow's going about to get a broken heart. Lane's heart
- 29:38Speaker 1: gets broken, David Galski's busting hearts. He's done. Uh who else?
- 29:45Speaker 1: Uh it looks okay, looks good.
- 29:53Speaker 3: He's fine.
- 29:54Speaker 1: Michelle's good. He found his puppies, so his heart's good. Uh,
- 29:58Speaker 1: Sukie's good. Who's who's good? Paris is just you know,
- 30:03Speaker 1: she's just.
- 30:05Speaker 3: Paris doesn't have a heart, so she's fine.
- 30:07Speaker 1: Exactly, No, she does.
- 30:10Speaker 3: She does. I love that character. She's just absolutely love it.
- 30:16Speaker 1: She's got an inconvenient living situation. You know, Dean's good,
- 30:25Speaker 1: Lindsay's good. But everybody else, I mean, it's like their
- 30:30Speaker 1: hearts are bleeding. Man.
- 30:33Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of jilted lovers, A lot of jilted lovers.
- 30:37Speaker 1: In this lots of them, you know, but he he
- 30:39Speaker 1: gets you know, Max gets real, said like, you had
- 30:42Speaker 1: your shot. It's a hell of a thing to say
- 30:45Speaker 1: to somebody, but you know it's true. You know what
- 30:49Speaker 1: He's like, what is this? You had your shot? You
- 30:52Speaker 1: know you there's like no duelovers here. I mean this
- 30:57Speaker 1: guy sent her a thousand days, right, I mean it
- 31:02Speaker 1: was not only did he take a shot, he took
- 31:06Speaker 1: his best shot of his life. He will never do
- 31:10Speaker 1: that again, he will never lay his heart so bare
- 31:14Speaker 1: for anyone else again. Because he thought for sure she
- 31:18Speaker 1: was going to say yes.
- 31:20Speaker 3: But if she got that close mm hm and said no,
- 31:27Speaker 3: then what's going on?
- 31:29Speaker 1: Like why did she why did she say no? What
- 31:31Speaker 1: was the justification? Do you remember? Do you recall?
- 31:33Speaker 3: I don't. I don't recall. I mean, is it because
- 31:37Speaker 3: of Luke? Do you think she knows deep.
- 31:38Speaker 2: Down in her heart?
- 31:39Speaker 1: Well, of course it's Luke, but of course.
- 31:43Speaker 3: But she's not ready to say that.
- 31:45Speaker 1: I mean, you're not going to let the best butt
- 31:47Speaker 1: and stars hollow just walk away? Right right?
- 31:51Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 31:52Speaker 1: You know? So yeah, what was the what was the rationale?
- 31:58Speaker 3: But and if so, then why she's still Is it
- 32:01Speaker 3: just she doesn't?
- 32:02Speaker 2: Is it that thing where you're like, I don't want him,
- 32:04Speaker 2: but I don't want I still want him to want me.
- 32:07Speaker 3: But I don't want him, but I still want him
- 32:08Speaker 3: to want me. Is it that because women can sometimes
- 32:14Speaker 3: feel like that.
- 32:15Speaker 1: Maybe it was because Rory, she thought Laura, I thought
- 32:19Speaker 1: her daughter. She just wanted to get Rory through children.
- 32:26Speaker 1: You know, she just wanted her daughter to be successful.
- 32:28Speaker 1: I think she chose Rory over Max.
- 32:32Speaker 3: I thought, then why now go after it again?
- 32:35Speaker 1: Because Rory's graduating and now she's going to be an
- 32:38Speaker 1: empty nester, and now she can take care of Now
- 32:42Speaker 1: she can focus on her left. Like from the time
- 32:45Speaker 1: Rory was born, it's just been nothing but Rory. Rory, Rory.
- 32:50Speaker 1: This kid is not going to have my life. I'm
- 32:53Speaker 1: going to make my kids successful. We're going to be
- 32:56Speaker 1: best friends. She's going on to do great things because
- 33:00Speaker 1: she Lorelai feels that inside herself. She feels the greatness
- 33:04Speaker 1: inside her that was, you know, through her actions, however
- 33:10Speaker 1: you want to explain it, that Glory was ripped away
- 33:14Speaker 1: from her at a very young age, and she had
- 33:17Speaker 1: to raise this child and now she realizes that, you
- 33:20Speaker 1: know her, the meaning of her life is this child
- 33:24Speaker 1: and the safety and the nurturing and the development and
- 33:29Speaker 1: the education of this child and loving this child. So
- 33:33Speaker 1: I think she could. She was so focused on this
- 33:39Speaker 1: she couldn't possibly, you know, get in that other lane
- 33:42Speaker 1: or share that with Max. You know. She didn't want
- 33:46Speaker 1: to take a chance. She didn't want to disrupt what
- 33:49Speaker 1: she'd been doing for I guess fourteen years up to
- 33:52Speaker 1: that point, six fifteen years. Yeah, I mean, I understand that.
- 33:58Speaker 1: I understand that. I don't think. I don't think it
- 34:01Speaker 1: was a looke thing. I think it was a I
- 34:03Speaker 1: think it was a Rory thing. It's a I cannot
- 34:10Speaker 1: I cannot get out of this. I have committed to
- 34:15Speaker 1: my daughter. I am not jeopardizing that. I am not
- 34:17Speaker 1: compromising that, even though I feel so strongly for you.
- 34:21Speaker 1: So it was a selfless act.
- 34:23Speaker 3: Yeah, So then that makes sense.
- 34:26Speaker 1: If really kind of admirable and honorable act, you know.
- 34:29Speaker 2: And then it makes sense that him coming back and
- 34:31Speaker 2: she's like, now I feel like maybe I can make
- 34:34Speaker 2: some choices for me, right since Rory is.
- 34:37Speaker 3: On her way.
- 34:38Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, well, well, you know, sometimes feelings changing. Yeah,
- 34:47Speaker 1: it was meant to be, it would be right, Yeah,
- 34:50Speaker 1: all right, well could have been. And I think it's
- 34:54Speaker 1: important for the show. This could have been, would have
- 34:59Speaker 1: been maybe should have been that never happened to, of course,
- 35:04Speaker 1: leave it open for the storytelling for yes, Luke and Laurel,
- 35:08Speaker 1: but not in Laurelized mind, right, just in the mind
- 35:13Speaker 1: of the show, in the in the storyteller. Great stuff,
- 35:16Speaker 1: great stuff, all right? Final thoughts, Final thoughts.
- 35:22Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved the episode.
- 35:24Speaker 4: I definitely was looking forward to, like when I was
- 35:29Speaker 4: reviewing it, I was looking forward to watching the next.
- 35:31Speaker 2: Episode to see how all this was going to resolve itself,
- 35:34Speaker 2: right Lane's mom, I'm looking forward to that, And yeah,
- 35:41Speaker 2: how about you.
- 35:43Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I thought it had some funny moments,
- 35:45Speaker 1: that it was moving forward, It was well paced, you know,
- 35:52Speaker 1: it showed it showed ordinary people and extraordinary circumstances, and
- 35:57Speaker 1: sometimes extraordinary people and very extra ordinary circumstances.
- 36:01Speaker 3: So I will say this, it's interesting.
- 36:03Speaker 1: It's good forty minutes of entertainment, that's for sure. Yeah.
- 36:06Speaker 2: Absolutely, And this and watching this episode, like all the
- 36:10Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls episodes, is I'm child free, and I am
- 36:15Speaker 2: child free by choice, and watching this show back then
- 36:19Speaker 2: and now is.
- 36:20Speaker 3: One of the few shows that I go, huh.
- 36:23Speaker 2: I second, I like think about my choice because their
- 36:25Speaker 2: relationship is so incredible that it actually makes me have
- 36:30Speaker 2: a little thumb or have me go O, how I
- 36:33Speaker 2: would have liked that, you know, like, but it's it's
- 36:38Speaker 2: just interesting. It's like and I didn't realize Amy Stroman
- 36:42Speaker 2: Palladino was child free.
- 36:43Speaker 3: Also, I didn't realize that so.
- 36:45Speaker 1: Very recently, as is Kelly Bishop, as is Lauren Graham
- 36:48Speaker 1: as is.
- 36:49Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 36:50Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's amazing and they they the writing
- 36:54Speaker 2: about this relationship is just so incredibly beautiful. And yeah,
- 36:58Speaker 2: I just wrote I was just a book actually with
- 37:01Speaker 2: a yeah about it's a child It's a humor forward
- 37:05Speaker 2: child free lifestyle guidebook called not Moms.
- 37:09Speaker 1: That's great.
- 37:10Speaker 3: Yeah, and it'll be available on Amazon soon.
- 37:13Speaker 2: So yeah, so I'm very into this, you know, the
- 37:17Speaker 2: relationship between mothers and daughters and mothers and sons.
- 37:20Speaker 3: And I loved this episode.
- 37:24Speaker 1: All right, A couple minutes here to go. But I
- 37:27Speaker 1: don't know about the music side. What's the singing all about?
- 37:30Speaker 1: That you had a band? What you did covers? What
- 37:32Speaker 1: did you do? Tell me? Tell me?
- 37:33Speaker 3: Actually, I yeah, we did some covers.
- 37:36Speaker 2: I was I was actually trained belconto, which is opera style.
- 37:41Speaker 2: Oh okay, singing, but I was in I did musical theater.
- 37:45Speaker 2: That's how I started in this business. And then I
- 37:48Speaker 2: was in a theater company. We had this band. I
- 37:50Speaker 2: do a show sometimes called miscast here in Los Angeles,
- 37:54Speaker 2: which singers sing songs that they would never be cast in.
- 37:57Speaker 3: It's really fun.
- 38:00Speaker 2: So yeah, I still sing a little bit, but mostly
- 38:04Speaker 2: on camera.
- 38:05Speaker 1: Is your vocal warm up more than five minutes?
- 38:09Speaker 3: No?
- 38:10Speaker 1: Do you do a vocal warm up?
- 38:12Speaker 3: Always? Yeah? Always? For singing. Yeah, you've got to protect
- 38:15Speaker 3: the vocal cords.
- 38:16Speaker 1: Yeah, you really do, right, I do it too.
- 38:18Speaker 3: For voiceover, I do a lot of voiceover.
- 38:20Speaker 1: Yeah you have to. Yeah, so you So you do
- 38:23Speaker 1: like a five minute quickie kind of a thing, and it's.
- 38:25Speaker 3: Good sometimes sometimes driving to the session or sometimes at
- 38:31Speaker 3: home if I'm all warm up quick.
- 38:34Speaker 1: Before Yeah, okay, all right, well fascinating. Well look, thanks
- 38:40Speaker 1: for coming on. We're out of time, but enjoyed chopping
- 38:46Speaker 1: it up with you, Julie, and come back anytime.
- 38:49Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 38:50Speaker 1: Thanks for be well, Julie, whitting everybody, and to you
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