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Episode 226: Our cigar chomping hero, Wolverine returns! · WASD and Beyond

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  Welcome back to the store, everybody.
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  We're your host, Nick and Evan this week on WASD and beyond.
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  Our reactions are stunned. We just saw a picture of Alex
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  Jones with a Shitler mustache. The world's upside down.
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  I have a photo for this. I have a photo for this
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  response. I mean, it doesn't matter.
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  We're recording so they they won't see it, but it'll.
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  Be funny for you. I can look on my phone.
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  I can look on my phone. Yeah, but that's what's
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  happening. He, this clown said the effect
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  that this mustache has had on women has been amazing.
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  He says they don't know how to handle themselves.
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  He says they're throwing their. I hate this word, but he they're
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  throwing their panties at him. Yeah, I've.
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  Yeah, I'm struggling to stand out.
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  Yeah, I'm fucking I I hate what the world's becoming.
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  Yeah, man, I think something in the like, no, something in the
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  universe. It's not just limited to us.
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  I think, I think there's like a universal, like there's a
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  quantum issue going in behind the scenes and the the creators
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  can't figure it out and they're trying to know what happened.
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  It's affecting us. I know what happened too.
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  Harambe died. That fucking kid.
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  Yeah. If you're the kid out there who
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  caused that fucking gorilla to die.
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  I've don't know. No, no, no we don't.
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  Know punch you in the nuts. No, we're not going to hurt that
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  kid. We're not going to hurt that
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  kid. However, we're.
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  Not going to. We're not.
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  Going to hurt our children around.
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  I was our anchor being and now we've lost them.
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  So things are going progressively more wrong, you
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  know. They're bad.
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  Everything's bad. You know what's kind of getting
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  better? What?
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  Let's get into the show. Cool.
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  So yeah, now that we've gotten all that out of the way, God, I
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  just hate Alex Jones. He's already been banned from
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  YouTube. He and because because of the
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  stash. He and Nick Fuentes were both
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  banned less than 12 hours after they were brought back or
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  allowed back, which is really funny 'cause it's like it's,
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  it's also, it's more just funny on the side of YouTube going
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  like, maybe they've changed, maybe they won't violate our
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  TOS. Like, have you been paying
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  attention? You, you know.
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  The best part about this episode so far?
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  You're talking about how stupid I think that fucking guy is.
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  But. Brody has his headphone
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  headphones in right now at work going.
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  Oh, yeah, he's like, he's like, where's this going to go?
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  These two, these two idiots have whiskey in hand and are already
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  talking about Alex Jones. They're supposed to be talking
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  about video. Games let's Why don't we talk
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  about video games? Let's do that.
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  There's been a couple of good games that have come out
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  recently. Yeah, you've, in my opinion, I,
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  I've, I've, I've heard Kronos was up and down.
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  Really. I know you hopped in and kind of
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  immediately hopped out. Yeah, I got like 40 minutes in
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  and then I kind of just was like, this is not for me.
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  Did it feel? Like a bad version of Dead Space
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  because I'm kind. Of hearing that it felt like
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  just a cheap, cheap version of Dead Space and I, I hesitate to
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  use the word cheap, but it just wasn't like there were things
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  that were off to to me the the combat did not feel as visceral
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  or intense. So that's kind of where more so
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  was with me of like, it was supposed to be like Dead Space,
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  but it wasn't really scary and it wasn't as intensive combat as
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  I was expecting. You know, like in even the Dead
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  Space remake, which is probably the most accurate Dead Space
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  experience I've had because I didn't play the originals
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  because I was probably too young at the time and also didn't
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  really like horror or scary things.
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  I love the remake, but the remake also gave me a sense of
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  pure terror of like, I don't know what's around the corner.
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  I don't know if I have the ammo to kill it.
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  I don't know what I'm going to have to do to kill it.
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  And also everything is disgusting and gross.
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  And like, that was kind of the thing about it.
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  I told that to you before was that Dead Space sort of kept
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  this quality of like if it was environmental necromorph type
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  stuff like growths on the wall or like, you know, just flesh
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  that held up in the same way that the actual enemies did.
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  So there was a sense of everything kind of matched.
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  And in Kronos that doesn't really feel the same.
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  The enemies you fight almost look worse than the environment.
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  So it's sort of like takes you out of it right away.
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  So yeah, that was kind of it. Also performance wasn't too good
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  if you had frame Gen. on your input delay was insane.
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  No, not dealing with that. We've had Borderlands 4 very
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  well met minus Randy Pitchford being the dumb dumpy fuck that
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  he is. Hey Randy, hop on the show.
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  I don't know, let's talk. He will not.
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  I don't think if you called him a dumb dumpy fuck, I don't think
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  he would show. I don't think I would show up.
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  I'm not the one dropping US BS full of porn everywhere.
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  That's true. This isn't what he's in hot
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  water for now though, right? This is he's just telling people
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  to figure out how to run Borderlands for.
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  And Brody and I talked about that last week.
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  So it won't rehash. But also, Randy, give Duke Nukem
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  back. Let's give that back.
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  That's a special request. Yeah, let's give Duke Nukem
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  back. You're not doing anything with
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  the IP. No, give that back.
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  Silk song, obviously. Smash hit.
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  Everyone loves the game. I got some.
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  Yes, you especially. Everybody in the discord has
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  heard me rage over Grawl, the great worst boss in the fucking
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  game. This thing is trash.
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  It's not fucking fun. I don't know what made you, the
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  developers team Cherry, think that was fun.
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  It's not bullshit. I hate it anyways.
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  I love the game though. I bet I could beat it.
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  I bet you could because of how you hopped into soul the souls
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  series. Oh, well, that didn't it wasn't
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  immediate though. That was that took me time.
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  Well, I had to get you guys to play the Co-op with me.
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  That was the only way that I kind of like I got a good
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  weapon. And then I was like, oh, I was
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  like that Danny DeVito meme where I was like, I get it now,
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  Like I understood what to do. I I guess so.
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  But I do want to play a Silk song because I hear how
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  difficult it is from you and Morgan and sometimes Steve, and
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  I want to challenge myself. I think it'd be a lot of fun,
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  so. It's a it's a great
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  Metroidvania. I have it downloaded.
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  Fucking time. Thank you Game Pass.
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  So. I mean, it's it's fun.
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  It's it's great. Yeah.
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  Thank you, Game Pass. And there's so much coming out
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  in October. But thank you, Phil.
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  Thank you so much, Phil. P3.
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  Doug Bowser is retiring from Nintendo.
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  Yes, he is. That's.
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  That's that's crazy. They're replacing with Mario
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  Luigi. Luigi, Mario.
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  Oh, Luigi, my bad. Mario Mario.
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  Luigi Mario. That's.
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  From the 90s film. My bad.
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  Watch it I'm. Sorry I got really fucked up one
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  night. Just watch Super Mario's film.
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  That sounds. Like a violently fucked up
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  before work day. No, that sounds even worse.
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  Oh, come on. So, yeah, there's there's a bit
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  of news right there. But you know, October's right
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  around the corner. We got some huge, huge games
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  coming out. You're talking about, you're
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  talking about you. You missed Game of the year,
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  contend contender Dying Light the Beast.
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  Evan is playing Dying Light the Beast.
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  Why don't? You briefly, yeah.
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  I'm not going to talk about it too much.
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  I'll just say I have 34 hours in it right now.
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  I don't know where I'm at in terms of finishing the story,
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  but I've loved it so far. It is basically like as if they
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  took the lessons learned from 1:00 and 2:00 and just applied
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  everything into a new game and it.
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  Was the best rated game they've done right.
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  Yeah, it's the well best rated Dying Light game.
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  I don't know if these guys have done other.
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  I know these guys have done other games.
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  I don't remember what I think Dead Island, I could be wrong,
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  but even either way, yeah, I mean they're pretty similar.
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  But this game is a lot of fun. The parkour is really cool.
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  I like that. The biggest issue, like I was
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  talking about with our friend Morgan in the discord yesterday,
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  was that the second game gave you an energy bar and you had
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  basically very low energy at the beginning of the second game.
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  So you couldn't enjoy a lot of the parkour aspect of it until
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  you kind of levelled up significantly.
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  Like I'm talking like maybe 1015 and then you're starting to sort
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  of see the really fast-paced like Mirror's Edge parkour,
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  whereas in this you are playing the protagonist from the first
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  game. So a lot of those things you
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  already know right off the the right out of the gate.
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  So you get that parkour experience and there's no
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  stamina drain on simple parkour moves like climbing, sprinting,
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  you know, things like that. You're there's no stamina drain.
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  The things that you that drain your stamina are hitting things,
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  power attacks, combat some it both specific parkour moves like
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  you know, like a drop kick will use stamina, but or like a
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  charge kick or a regular kick will use stamina.
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  But like, again, those are all combat things.
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  So and then like I said, other parkour moves might, but the way
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  that they sort of tie the story and you getting the like the
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  beast powers is really smart. And all of those fights so far,
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  I've only fought 3. They're called chimeras.
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  That's a lot of fun. Like those boss fights feel very
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  unique. They're very exciting.
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  They all seem to have their own unique like kill animations,
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  like when you kill them at the end, which is really cool.
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  It's also particularly violent and almost feels like you're
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  playing like the Doomslayer, but in like a like a parkour like
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  zombie environment. The thing I do want to play, I
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  would there, I would like to see.
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  I would like. So to just wrap that up, I would
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  give it like as of right now, I'm giving it like an 8 1/2
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  nine, but I've heard it's surprising.
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  Oh, dude, I love these games and this one has been the best out
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  of all of them. Although I will say I'm playing
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  it on just survival, which is like the normal difficulty.
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  It's fucking hard. I get so I get so mad sometimes
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  that I just Alta 4 when I died of something stupid.
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  I'm just like, Nope, no, I'm done for now, like because I'll
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  just I get I just get like now I'm I'm going to be mad if I
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  keep playing. But like what I do want to play
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  or I how I do want to play it is I want to see if I can get it
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  for a couple of the guys that would be interested in it and do
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  some Co-op because I've heard the Co-op is a lot of fun to add
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  in all sorts of things like that.
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  I guess my only gripe with it to wrap that up, like why I'm not
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  giving it a 10 is I hate the durability aspect of those
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  games. I hate having to constantly
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  manage your weapons and repair them.
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  And in this one, I have a particular issue too, because
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  you only have a certain amount of repairs per item and the only
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  way to raise those amount of repairs is to like upgrade the
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  item itself from like a blue to a purple, purple, you know,
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  legendary thing like that. That's kind of annoying.
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  And then there are certain items like I found Kratos's axe from
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  God of War Ragnarok. It doesn't look exactly the
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  same, but it has like the Nordic writing on the side, which I
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  thought was really cool. It's a legendary, but it it, it
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  loses durability and it's irreparable.
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  So you can't even fix it if like when it runs out.
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  So like I'm, I've been using it and I just realized it's got
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  like 60 out of like 150 durability left.
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  That's like what, I can't fix it.
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  So like what happens when I'm done with it?
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  Does it just break? Something like that should be an
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  unbreakable object. So yeah, that's what I'm
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  thinking. So I might just look and see if
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  there's a mod where you can just have like I'm sure there's a way
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  to turn off just like as a cheat code, you know, like no weapon
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  durability loss or something like that.
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  I would honestly play through the game again and just have
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  that just to see how that feels if it feels too overpowered or
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  not, because some of it makes sense.
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  Having a simple hammer would be cool, but like if I get like a
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  legendary sledgehammer or something like that, it's kind
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  of annoying that it breaks after a pretty quick.
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  It's pissed me off Yeah like come on.
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  Like I know the shit can last longer than that.
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  But anyway, it's a great game. I highly recommend it to people
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  who like zombie games, parkour games or a mix of those in any
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  capacity. Also kind of scary, like the
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  night time stuff is really good. I think that they've made that a
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  very dangerous. You're powerful, but you can't
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  kill the things at night still, which is kind of like I told you
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  before, you know that feeling of when you were like a kid and you
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  were playing a game with your friends and like, they would
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  chase you and you had this sort of sense of primal fear?
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  Like that Rush? Yeah.
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  That rush, that's how it feels sometimes when you hear one of
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  the volatile scream behind you and you see Chase started.
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  You're like, I got, I got to run to the nearest safe zone.
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  And those could be there's no fast travel so you have to run
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  everywhere or drive and driving makes noise which attracts them.
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  So when you get a chase on you, it's like you better start
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  running and hope that you can avoid them.
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  So no, it's good. I recommend it.
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  Fuck yeah dude no I'm going to have to try this out.
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  I love the gore physics of this game like all.
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  That. Mechanics I've always, I've
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  always loved that. I find myself hopping in,
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  hopping out of those games unfortunately, and I don't know
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  why, because they're fun. It's just I get they get a bit
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  repetitive for me, but it is where it is.
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  No, that's awesome. No, I can't wait to circle back
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  to this with you and really talk about and dive into this game
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  and how you're feeling towards the end of it.
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  But let's just let's let's hop right into the meat and potatoes
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  of this episode because we got a decent bit of ground to cover.
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  I think a lot of this is going to be yadda, yadda.
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  And also right, so you know, we're we're talking about the
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  PlayStation direct. More importantly, we're going to
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  talk about Wolverine, so let's get through the PlayStation
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  Direct. Yeah, Soros looks cool.
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  I like. Fraternal.
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  I liked. I didn't play it, but I like, I
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  like the way Soros looked made me want to play it it.
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  It it's it Returnal was really fun.
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  If you are able to get it on PCI think you get right on steam.
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  I would get it. It's very fucking fun.
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  It's it's cool. Oh my fucking God, if I can
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  shout you all to that'd be good. Bizarros look great, It looks
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  beautiful. The enemies look sweet, the
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  weapons look cool, the environments look very awesome
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  and just vibrant and bright and dark at the same time.
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  And this game looks fucking sweet, so I look forward to
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  that. The Battlefield 6 campaign
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  trailer was shown. Very pumped for that.
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  Obviously, I mean, we're going to be spending a lot of time in
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  the multiplayer, but. Yeah, it was a big media day for
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  them yesterday. Like just to quickly touch on
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  that, they showed the trailer for the campaign in the State of
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  Play, but they also like the bunch of the Battlefield
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  Youtubers, dropped a bunch more info.
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  We got to see some more. So if you go to some of those
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  Youtubers channels, you'll see some exclusive gameplay of
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  submissions because people got hands on footage of like some of
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  the mission sections. There's nine missions in the
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  campaign. One of them is basically kind of
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  like their take on like a clean house mission from COD.
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  So yeah, that should be pretty exciting.
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  And then we also got to see some Portal gameplay where they
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  showed off 4 in house game modes ranging from like a zombies game
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  mode to jet racing to parkour, like combat.
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  And one thing I thought was really cool is like top of the
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  tower or something like that, where you basically are three
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  teams racing to the top of one control point and a tower and
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  you can shoot at each other up and down like vertically as
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  you're like running up. So yeah, that looks really
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  exciting. But yeah, I'm excited for the
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  campaign. I'm excited for that game in
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  general. I think, I think that they're
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  going to have a pretty sweet launch compared to nearly the
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  past 10 years. Yeah I agree we had Deus Ex
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  remastered. Leave the game alone.
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  Yeah, it didn't look very good. Let it be.
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  It's a legendary game. Let it be.
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  It. Looks uglier than it did.
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  Yeah, Nightdive didn't get to do it so well.
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  That's if it's not nightdive touching it, I don't give a
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  fuck, right? Right.
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  This looks uglier than it did. Yeah, I wasn't really impressed
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  by it. It's just like if yeah,
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  Nightdive is the studio. If you're going to have them do
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  those games, that's who needs to do those games.
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  So that pissed me the fuck off. God of War 20th anniversary
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  controller. I think it's cool it, you know,
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  it's very basic looking. Yeah, it didn't really strike me
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  as anything. You know what, I'll say this.
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  I've had my eye set on getting the limited edition Ghost of
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  Yotek like one of the two either the gold or the black.
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  I'm still kind of debating because they both look really.
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  The gold though is kind of been I like the gold and white look
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  too, like that kind of looks sweet on it so I'm not sure
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  Accents. Off itself and all that.
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  Dude, it looks nice. But this, I mean, like this one
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  it yeah, it was kind of like if I had to choose, it's like I
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  would rather get that for me personally just because, yeah, I
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  felt like it was kind of like that's that's it.
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  There would have been stripe. It would yeah.
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  Like it would have been kind of cool if you kind of had maybe a
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  mix of the Greek and Nordic like symbols there, right.
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  Like you had that, but like you had the red stripe, maybe more
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  reminiscent of the early games, but then you surrounded the rest
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  of the controller with like the Nordic runes on the axe.
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  Put a beard on the bottom of the controller.
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  Yeah, make the the little leather grips like like furry or
• 18:56
  something. Beard hair.
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  Yeah, beard hair. Yeah, that would be great.
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  I think I'm. Touching my face right now.
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  I feel, I feel gross. That yeah, it's pretty
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  disgusting. I don't know why you said that.
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  I don't. Know I'm fucking because I am
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  who I am. There was an OK controller.
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  I'm not super excited. I mean, I'm sure it's nice for
• 19:10
  the people who played the originals, but I didn't.
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  I really only played 2018 in Ragnarok so.
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  Yeah, no, I'm, I'm good on that Gran Turismo, right?
• 19:17
  That was a big. As some as the as the as the
• 19:22
  racing guy here, I'll just say like I was AI would have hoped
• 19:26
  for like APC announcement and instead they were just like spec
• 19:30
  threes coming to GT7. It's like, thanks.
• 19:34
  Like. Cool, I guess, like the car.
• 19:36
  The cars look nice. The game itself looks nice, but
• 19:38
  it's one of those games too where I I think it's probably
• 19:42
  better with a wheel like in some capacity, because I tried tried
• 19:46
  playing it with like a controller and even with the
• 19:49
  adaptive triggers. I felt it feels more heavy than
• 19:54
  even Forza Motorsport, which I don't think you've played any
• 19:57
  of, but like Forza Motorsport has a.
• 20:02
  I like the way the cars feel. They have a nice sense of
• 20:05
  balance and weight, but like it's also not like something
• 20:08
  where you can just shit whip a car around a corner that it
• 20:11
  shouldn't be able to do. So like you have to be mindful
• 20:14
  and you have to be aware of what you're doing.
• 20:17
  GT7 had always felt way heavier. The cars always felt like they
• 20:20
  had almost too much weight or like something like that.
• 20:24
  So I don't know. It's cool for the people that
• 20:26
  probably play it a lot, but like that's kind of the market
• 20:28
  they're catering to. The nice thing, I guess for them
• 20:30
  is that they've sold over 100 million like units since or as
• 20:34
  of June of this year, like overall for them.
• 20:38
  So like, you know, congratulations, that's probably
• 20:40
  a pretty big milestone. I'm sure, but also I I guess
• 20:43
  too. I don't know, like I said, I
• 20:46
  love racing. I I love racing, but it just,
• 20:49
  yeah, that didn't really get me as much as I thought it would.
• 20:52
  I would have preferred, like I said, APC announcement with that
• 20:54
  would be really cool. But yeah.
• 20:57
  But no, we didn't get. That no, so I don't care.
• 20:59
  So two more things I'll touch on.
• 21:04
  One's gonna be from the direct and one will not.
• 21:06
  The PlayStation speakers I guess.
• 21:12
  I, I don't know, I think they're cool because I don't have on.
• 21:17
  Those or. No, let me look.
• 21:19
  I I don't know, but I think they're cool.
• 21:21
  But I say that because I don't have any.
• 21:23
  So like when I have my own place, it'd be nice to have some
• 21:26
  speakers on my desk and I'd probably get those just because
• 21:28
  they would my only console would be APS 5.
• 21:32
  So it it would be a very seamless switch like they said.
• 21:34
  So that's kind of marketing exactly towards me.
• 21:38
  I'm waiting for his eyes to just expand here.
• 21:41
  He sees me squinting right now, trying to figure out that
• 21:44
  they're called Pulse Elevate. OK.
• 21:46
  So the Pulse Elevate speakers, there's got to be a price.
• 21:50
  I'm looking. Come on.
• 21:52
  Come on, I'm saying 100 and 5200 bucks.
• 21:56
  No Pulse Elevate Wireless speakers will launch in 2026 and
• 22:00
  will be available in both midnight black and white.
• 22:05
  Price. Price let me see.
• 22:09
  This is from the shortcut we the price is not yet confirmed, but
• 22:16
  these guys are predicting it'll be between 2:50 and 300 based on
• 22:19
  the pricing of other Sony audio. Sorry.
• 22:21
  Like that? Well, Sony.
• 22:24
  Which I mean, that's what I'm saying though, is like, like
• 22:26
  it's. Like, you know, they're gonna at
• 22:28
  least like. Like 250 for two wireless
• 22:34
  speakers that do like the AI, no?
• 22:37
  Subwoofer, right? No, it has a built in subwoofer.
• 22:41
  It has a built in subwoofer. It has like the directional
• 22:43
  audio, the AI like 3D audio mics and all sort of shit like that.
• 22:47
  And also it has the wireless, you know, you can just plug it
• 22:51
  into your PlayStation or into your PC and it works
• 22:53
  immediately. You don't have to do anything.
• 22:56
  So like yes, this is something for me.
• 22:59
  If I had the money, yeah I probably would.
• 23:01
  Cause it's like now I can just like chill and play game.
• 23:05
  Like if I'm not in Discord I can just chill and play games
• 23:08
  without having my headphones on like.
• 23:10
  I'll I'll consider it. It's.
• 23:12
  Yeah, now he's he's kind of thinking about it.
• 23:14
  Shut up you, because you know I have FOMO about not getting new
• 23:16
  shit. Well, yeah, but I mean, it's all
• 23:19
  in relation to what you really need, you know, I don't know if
• 23:22
  you need speakers. You don't really listen to shit
• 23:24
  without your headphones. I.
• 23:26
  Have 3. Yeah, man.
• 23:30
  Please, I'm sorry, OK, the speakers, what else did you want
• 23:33
  to talk about? This one, this next thing is not
• 23:34
  from the direct. Quickly touching on the Kojima
• 23:38
  then. Oh yeah, I thought.
• 23:43
  Anime. Oh yeah.
• 23:44
  Go on. Please, please go on.
• 23:45
  Please go on. Well, I don't have a lot to say
• 23:47
  'cause I didn't watch the whole thing, but I think a lot of the
• 23:50
  Death Stranding stuff is kind of cool.
• 23:52
  I like that the movie will not be covering the events of the
• 23:55
  games. That is the.
• 23:58
  I think that's cool. I think for as much guff as
• 24:02
  Kojima gets, he understands that shit though.
• 24:06
  He's he's inherently incredibly intelligent.
• 24:08
  He's just so far up his own ass sometimes.
• 24:11
  But like he learns from people like Guillermo del Toro, David
• 24:14
  Lynch, rest in Peace, George Miller.
• 24:19
  Like this is who's this is who Kojima is costly being like
• 24:24
  influenced by. So like of course the movie, it
• 24:28
  might deal with Sam Porter Bridges.
• 24:32
  You'll see him in the background.
• 24:34
  You're going to see him go. Hey, over here.
• 24:37
  That's yeah. But like that excites me to know
• 24:40
  that what if it was you didn't finish the game?
• 24:45
  2. Yeah.
• 24:47
  No. Anyways, OK, I think I know what
• 24:52
  it might be. So I like one, just to briefly
• 25:01
  touch on it. I'm excited for his next two
• 25:05
  games, OD looked. Scary.
• 25:09
  OD looked good and OD was actually kind of cool because
• 25:11
  that entire shot they used of Hunter Schaefer was that one
• 25:14
  screen test that he showed a while ago of her like freaking
• 25:18
  out. So I like that that was sort of
• 25:20
  a call back to that and also part of the game.
• 25:23
  It looked incredible, which makes it terrifying.
• 25:26
  It also sound I saw it on Twitter.
• 25:28
  It might not be true but that OD is meant to be like the name of
• 25:34
  the game and then like the second tagline is his story.
• 25:39
  So like Jordan Peele will have his own like story in OD is what
• 25:45
  I saw. Like it's like going to be an
• 25:46
  anthology maybe of like horror done by different people.
• 25:50
  I can't confirm that. If they didn't say it, then
• 25:52
  don't believe in. Anything translate into film as
• 25:55
  well, is it not? I don't know it in the.
• 25:57
  Project he's doing. What game was it that sci-fi
• 26:01
  did? Or soup.
• 26:03
  Fuck. Not quantum break.
• 26:06
  There was like ATV show and a video game and some of the shit
• 26:09
  that the players are doing in the game were happening in the
• 26:12
  show. Fuck.
• 26:14
  I don't know, but it sounds like Kojima's trying to blur the
• 26:18
  lines between television, movie and video game, and that is
• 26:24
  Super. Not with, maybe not with OD, but
• 26:26
  I thought there was a second a third project that was supposed
• 26:30
  to be like a mix here. Quantum break is a unique video
• 26:35
  game that also functions as a live action TV series.
• 26:39
  Players make choices within the video game that directly
• 26:41
  influence the story presented in the accompanying TV show
• 26:44
  segments. The only other game that show.
• 26:46
  The only other thing that shows up related to what I just looked
• 26:49
  up is Black Mirror Bandersnatch which is actually off of Netflix
• 26:51
  now, which is. Odd.
• 26:54
  It's not odd. It's Netflix, Yeah.
• 26:57
  I hate Netflix. So what I am Oh no, don't dive
• 27:02
  deeper into AI mode. Sorry I got I panicked.
• 27:06
  I don't I don't like using it. I hate.
• 27:08
  That the entire discord yesterday just so AI bait
• 27:10
  driven. I don't know man, I got really
• 27:12
  pissed off because I'm like, you probably just like took the
• 27:14
  water of like several fish. This.
• 27:16
  Chad's going. Give me a minute, he goes
• 27:20
  actually, and I would chat. Him.
• 27:21
  I was like, come on, man. I was like, stop using this
• 27:24
  shit. We're going to get in trouble,
• 27:25
  Patrick. Star is so maddering.
• 27:27
  Squidward's pissed. Squidward's mad as hell.
• 27:33
  I thought that that like, if that ends up to be true, really
• 27:36
  cool. I'm going to play it and
• 27:37
  hopefully it's something that comes to PC 2 because I'm the
• 27:40
  type of person that if I'm going to play something truly scary, I
• 27:43
  stream it and play it with my friends.
• 27:44
  Xbox Game Pass. So it would be.
• 27:48
  Xbox Game Studios, yes. Yeah, it would be so it will be
• 27:51
  on PC, which is very exciting because yeah, I would love to
• 27:55
  stream it not even not just on Twitch, but like just in Discord
• 27:59
  as well like the the go on spot. Please.
• 28:02
  Well, I saw all the detail which I loved, especially like the the
• 28:06
  worms. Well, the matches the worms,
• 28:09
  yes, but like the worms, the worms, sorry, the.
• 28:11
  Worms. When she struck the matchbook,
• 28:15
  you could see every detail of the strike and then as it ripped
• 28:20
  up how the wrist, the baby candle.
• 28:25
  When that started to cry, I went no.
• 28:29
  Yeah, it's the little things, right?
• 28:30
  You know, you got to watch it a couple times and catch all those
• 28:32
  details. But yeah, like, that's a game
• 28:35
  I'd love to play with friends or like, have friends watch me play
• 28:38
  because it takes away from the scariest bit.
• 28:40
  But like, this looks exciting. And then the fizzent game.
• 28:47
  I want to your theory. Tell them your theory.
• 28:50
  It's not my theory. It's something that I saw on
• 28:52
  Twitter and I relayed to Nick. And Nick was like, dude, if
• 28:56
  that's what it is, then no way. I.
• 28:57
  Love him so fucking. Much people are speculating that
• 29:02
  the main character like the cover, 'cause you can't see
• 29:05
  their face is because they don't want to reveal that it's
• 29:07
  actually Robert Pattinson, which if it is, here's the thing.
• 29:14
  I was not a huge Robert Pattinson fan growing up as a
• 29:17
  kid because he was in Twilight and I fucking hated Twilight.
• 29:21
  So I did not watch it. And then I saw, I still need to
• 29:25
  watch. There's a movie that he was in
• 29:27
  that I I've seen as really good, free something, right?
• 29:31
  What is it? It's a, or a crazy ride or
• 29:34
  something like that. I'm, I'm, I'm totally a Robert
• 29:37
  Pattinson movies. Hold on.
• 29:38
  Sorry. I'm looking like a fool to the
• 29:40
  listeners right now, but I can't do this.
• 29:41
  I Pattinson movies. Robert Pattinson movies.
• 29:44
  Yeah, it is good time, good time.
• 29:48
  So like I've heard that is one that really shows his range.
• 29:51
  High Life was really good. The one with the the the black
• 29:55
  hole stuff was was awesome. And all the spum.
• 29:59
  Yes, well, high life is the one where, what's her name, Mia Goth
• 30:02
  gets like killed by a black hole.
• 30:05
  Like she gets stretched with the spaghetti vacation.
• 30:08
  You know what bums me out about her?
• 30:10
  Isn't she like, not cool? I heard she's a raging mean
• 30:14
  person. I'm.
• 30:15
  Sorry. Yeah, you know, I heard she's
• 30:18
  just a nightmare to deal with. That's what I've heard.
• 30:21
  So that that sucks if that's true.
• 30:23
  But the Lighthouse Tenant, The Batman and Mickey 17, I've seen
• 30:30
  all of those. I have Mickey, and so does
• 30:35
  Mickey. Mickey was.
• 30:36
  Yeah. That's where yo.
• 30:38
  Yo be don't blow the spot. Sorry bro.
• 30:44
  Yeah, but yeah, bleep that out, I said.
• 30:46
  Something, he said. The I'll bleep it out.
• 30:48
  Said the P word. I gotta bleep that too.
• 30:52
  What fucking who will? I didn't do anything if that's
• 30:59
  the case. I think that's going to be an
• 31:00
  incredible partnership. Nobody saw it like people like,
• 31:03
  I think it's going to be the like certain people saw coming,
• 31:06
  but like I think the general like.
• 31:07
  I could see. It coming Robert Pattinson is
• 31:11
  weird in the way Hideo Kojima is weird.
• 31:14
  So like, like, I mean, that's. A huge Death Grips fan.
• 31:19
  Well, I know what I'm saying and I mean that.
• 31:21
  I'm, I mean it in the nicest way possible, obviously, but like
• 31:25
  that would be so exciting and it would be so cool to play as him
• 31:28
  in a video game because it would, it would, it's, it's
• 31:32
  going to be in essence, I would feel it's going to probably feel
• 31:35
  the same way as when you got to play as Norman Reedus, where
• 31:38
  like there's going to be a room where you get to sit down and
• 31:40
  you get to sit and look at Robert Pattinson do things.
• 31:43
  And it would be something that he would find so fun to do.
• 31:46
  I mean, this is like, as far as I understand it, this is a true
• 31:49
  story. Robert Pattinson's a guy who
• 31:51
  went out with a stalker and just talked about how awful his life
• 31:54
  was until she got bored and left.
• 31:56
  Are you serious? I think that's a true story.
• 32:01
  I think that's a true story. The funniest thing I've that is
• 32:05
  I, we, I need to find that the funniest thing I've seen of
• 32:09
  Robert Pattinson because I, I hated Twilight, but I liked
• 32:12
  Twilight. I liked him.
• 32:14
  There's the thing about him. Maybe it's his beautiful eyes.
• 32:16
  He lied. He literally said that he made
• 32:18
  that story up to make interviews more interesting for himself.
• 32:23
  Oh, so he's even way? Cooler so he's even way.
• 32:26
  Dude, this guy's meta gaming the system.
• 32:28
  This. Guy is brilliant, so really
• 32:31
  quick because we have a lot more ground to cover.
• 32:32
  Sorry, there's a photo of him. Look it up.
• 32:36
  Look up Robert Pattinson, Death Grips, Beyoncé I.
• 32:40
  Think I've seen this. You are going to, you are going
• 32:42
  to freak. You're going to be like, that's
• 32:43
  not a real, it is a real photo. That's so funny, I'm looking at.
• 32:49
  Beyoncé with MC Ride and Robert Pattinson.
• 32:54
  You look in your phone. This is it, right?
• 32:57
  Let me see. Let me see.
• 32:59
  Hold up. Sorry, audience.
• 33:02
  Give me a minute. Did you send it?
• 33:04
  Discord. No, that what?
• 33:09
  No, that's not. That's not quite it.
• 33:12
  I see the real 1 next to it. Yeah, the real one's next to it
• 33:16
  anyways, you fucking fool. What are you doing if isn't is
• 33:20
  gonna be sweet if that is the case, I cannot wait to see more
• 33:22
  of that Yeah, we we also had the Pokémon Go thing, which I the
• 33:28
  minute I can play that. But here's the thing.
• 33:30
  I think it's augmented reality and.
• 33:33
  I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna buy glasses for
• 33:35
  that. I already tried that.
• 33:37
  Do you remember when I bought those stupid Amazon glasses?
• 33:40
  Yeah, yeah, I do remember that those that was a.
• 33:42
  Big fucking everyone was like those look dumb as fuck my boy.
• 33:46
  That was and I went. Funny little timeline.
• 33:49
  That was a year of me wearing those chunky fucking whatever.
• 33:53
  So that looks interesting. I may get I'm a shell.
• 33:57
  I don't care. Anyways, there was updates on
• 34:00
  the movie as you brought up. We have the credit card.
• 34:04
  I don't know why we have a Kojima credit card, but then we
• 34:08
  also have the Kojima Sake. Yes, you're going to be getting.
• 34:13
  That the minute, the minute I'm going to talk to my buddy
• 34:17
  Edmund. Edmund Freeland Market dogs hook
• 34:22
  it up, get the get these bottles, please.
• 34:25
  I know you listen, Edmund, that's my boy right there.
• 34:28
  Freeland Market, Woodhaven, MI Go check them out.
• 34:32
  Check them out on Instagram. Freeland Market.
• 34:34
  You're mad at me for giving up the spot and here you are.
• 34:36
  That's the liquor source plug I'm plugging my store.
• 34:39
  Bro, that's fair, that's fair. Can't argue.
• 34:41
  Dude, what do you think? I got this awesome bottle Liquid
• 34:44
  Death whistle pig, right? He's not even paid by them, by
• 34:49
  the way. He's just a different.
• 34:50
  Fruit I I just love that store and I get great Italian sticks
• 34:53
  from that store. Very tasty sticks, not Dicks.
• 34:59
  But yeah, that was a Kojima event.
• 35:01
  I I'm a bit, I'm a bit bummed that we didn't maybe see any
• 35:04
  more about Death Stranding too, because the game has been out
• 35:07
  for not too long. But there's, there's just so
• 35:10
  much more I want to play with that game and I'm finished with
• 35:12
  it. And I Death Stranding is not a
• 35:13
  game. I'm not going to go back and
• 35:15
  build the roads for people. I built my roads.
• 35:19
  Right. No, that's fair.
• 35:20
  I didn't do the same. I didn't do that either.
• 35:21
  Yeah, I didn't go back and rebuild or like go back and.
• 35:23
  Finish the game. I need to finish the other.
• 35:25
  I need. Yeah, I know I need to finish
• 35:26
  the game, but like I never went through and did.
• 35:28
  That myself is going to tear you to.
• 35:30
  Shreds. We'll see.
• 35:32
  You say that about a lot of games that I play, No.
• 35:34
  And then I. I'm.
• 35:35
  Telling you, you cry. You say that about a lot of
• 35:37
  games that I play though, and then I approach it with a sort
• 35:40
  of like Kendall Roy dead eyed stare.
• 35:43
  I feel like you do it on purpose in front of me.
• 35:46
  No, I. Walk off, you go up to your room
• 35:48
  and you can do this one of these things.
• 35:51
  No, I mean, I genuinely, I can't.
• 35:54
  I can't think of a game that well.
• 35:57
  I'm trying to think of a game that made me like feel a type of
• 36:01
  way. I got to say honestly, what?
• 36:03
  It's 2025 probably. God of War Ragnarok was like the
• 36:08
  last game that really made me. Don't make me do this as a
• 36:11
  father, yeah. Like I'm not going to dive back
• 36:13
  into it, but yeah, like that's probably the last time I felt
• 36:15
  like I love Spider Man 2 and I only just played that recently
• 36:18
  because it just came to PC, but like, that's kind of more of a
• 36:21
  triumphant story overall. We both have PS fives and they
• 36:25
  are glorified Netflix boxes. I love that.
• 36:29
  I love, I love that that game has been out for like 2 years
• 36:33
  and John badgered me about it for years to play it because I
• 36:35
  had APS 5 just in the background of my camera at all times.
• 36:39
  And he's like, when are you going to play it?
• 36:40
  When are you going to play it? When are you going to play it?
• 36:42
  I'm like probably fucking until it comes to PC.
• 36:44
  Came to PC, played it the day it came out.
• 36:47
  So I beat it within two weeks. And he was like, oh, so you
• 36:50
  liked it, Hon? I was like, yeah.
• 36:52
  He's like, why didn't you play it on the PlayStation?
• 36:53
  Like wanted to play it on the PC.
• 36:56
  Yeah, Spider Man stay spoiler free speaking.
• 37:01
  Yeah, good segue here. Insomniac's next game.
• 37:06
  Shout out Mark, by the way, on Instagram who is the lead gaming
• 37:12
  programmer for Insomniac. Shout out you.
• 37:16
  Thanks for following us. Shout out Mark.
• 37:19
  Hope you listen. Wolverine was shown off and this
• 37:24
  was something we all discussed. Me, Brody and Evan in fact
• 37:27
  discuss this prior to the prior to the the direct.
• 37:31
  Yeah, Priority, yes. We weren't sure if it was going
• 37:33
  to happen at the Direct. We knew there was a Wolverine
• 37:37
  announcement coming. We all, us three, had talked
• 37:39
  about it. It's common.
• 37:41
  We've known. We've known about it because
• 37:42
  they yeah. When did they show it off?
• 37:43
  2 years ago? I think 2023, like Game Awards
• 37:46
  2023. That sounds about right.
• 37:48
  It's. I think it's longer.
• 37:51
  Really. I'll have to find out.
• 37:54
  Let me look real quick so. We had been talking about this
• 37:57
  and we we speculated either the Direct or Game Awards.
• 38:02
  Yeah, luckily it was the direct. I think the direct was perfect
• 38:05
  for this. Wow, how?
• 38:08
  Five years. September 2021.
• 38:12
  Four years, yeah, because I remember it was still COVID.
• 38:17
  That's probably what, yeah, thinking about it, that's
• 38:19
  probably what screwed it up a lot.
• 38:20
  Do you think there's like a before COVID?
• 38:21
  Like before crisis? Not before COVID.
• 38:25
  I mean, it's been nailed to that board a long time ago.
• 38:28
  Now we got Covad. Not to go back into that.
• 38:33
  So in The Wolverine. I.
• 38:36
  Don't even know how to go into this now.
• 38:41
  Here's my. Auntie tattooed guy, I said it
• 38:44
  What you want us? Here's my, here's my thing.
• 38:46
  I don't mean this and then I, I mean this in like the the most
• 38:49
  beautiful way I can imagine 'cause it's a game I love from
• 38:52
  my childhood. If this game is, is like I'm
• 38:55
  expecting, I'm sure it's going to be more than this because
• 38:58
  it's Insomniac and I know how they are.
• 39:00
  I know how much detail and love they put into especially these
• 39:03
  Marvel games. I don't know if I've ever played
• 39:04
  an Insomniac game. Wait, they what did Insomniac do
• 39:07
  before Marvel Spider man? Don't put me in a box like that.
• 39:12
  Sorry, then never mind, we're not going.
• 39:13
  To go infamous, infamous. Infamous.
• 39:17
  Yeah, I loved Infamous. I played one in two.
• 39:21
  Oh wait, time out. No.
• 39:22
  Isn't that sucker? Punch Am I an asshole?
• 39:24
  You. You might be.
• 39:25
  I think that's sucker. Punch Sucker punch is infamous.
• 39:28
  Is infamous. Russian clank, Yeah.
• 39:30
  No, I played that, yeah. Dude, resistance.
• 39:33
  Oh my God. Resistance.
• 39:36
  Oh my God. So, yeah, like looking at all
• 39:39
  these now, I understand I've played through.
• 39:41
  Yeah, yeah, no. So I've played a lot of these
• 39:43
  games. I especially so.
• 39:44
  So yeah, I guess I was, I was an original player of Insomniac
• 39:48
  Games because as a kid, I mean, I was born in 2000, I was
• 39:51
  probably playing games by the time I was like 2 years old.
• 39:53
  So I definitely played Spyro. I played Ratchet and Clank.
• 39:58
  Ratchet and Clank was probably the Ratchet and Clank is the
• 40:01
  game I have a first memory of playing.
• 40:04
  Like that is the first game. Like if I go back through every
• 40:07
  game I ever played, Ratchet and Clank's probably the first one I
• 40:09
  ever like picked up for. Control from from Insomniac.
• 40:13
  It was Spyro for me, but I was also, that was when I was a kid,
• 40:17
  right? So like it would have been
• 40:18
  Spyro, like it weren't for me, like Naughty Dog.
• 40:20
  The minute I see the Naughty Dog symbol I think crash.
• 40:24
  Right, right. I don't even.
• 40:26
  Think of Last of Us. I think Crash Band.
• 40:29
  When I think of Naughty Dog, I think of Uncharted first,
• 40:31
  usually. That's usually what comes.
• 40:34
  Like Uncharted is what I played first from them because I played
• 40:37
  two and then I went back and played one, and then I played
• 40:40
  three and then Last of Us and then four, and then they had
• 40:44
  two. So yeah, I think of Uncharted
• 40:48
  usually for them. But anyway, back to Wolverine,
• 40:51
  like I loved X-Men Origins Wolverine, the the old Xbox 360
• 40:58
  game. I think it was on PS3 two, I
• 40:59
  don't remember I played it on Xbox 360, but I I or PS2, I
• 41:04
  don't remember which one. But like I, I, I, I loved that
• 41:07
  game. I loved it so much.
• 41:09
  I loved the animations. I loved the, the executions.
• 41:12
  I loved the the violence, the healing anime, like the healing
• 41:15
  factor, like it like knowing how hurt you were based on how
• 41:18
  damaged Logan's body was. And that's kind of the vibe I
• 41:23
  got from this where it's like it's it's going to be bloody,
• 41:25
  it's going to be violent, it's going to be rough around the
• 41:28
  edges. I loved how that I think those
• 41:31
  are things that don't really matter to a lot of people, but I
• 41:34
  like them and I like that they are not afraid to mention them
• 41:37
  where they're like, if you notice, like they're talking
• 41:39
  about even the cover art, the box art, the the title, the logo
• 41:43
  is more rough around the edges. Whereas like Spider Man is clean
• 41:46
  and pristine and sort of like proud.
• 41:49
  This is almost like it's unsure of itself.
• 41:52
  And I was like, dude, like they get it.
• 41:53
  They understand what makes these characters tick and that's what
• 41:57
  makes these games so good. Although I did see something
• 42:01
  really funny where there's they show that one like hallway scene
• 42:04
  where Logan just beats the shit out of that one guy.
• 42:07
  And some of us like, if you're wondering what the combo to do
• 42:10
  this is, it's XXXXXX. It's just acts like 15 times.
• 42:16
  So like, I hope they find a way to make it a bit interesting
• 42:19
  because I, I think it could, I don't think it could become
• 42:23
  repetitive because I don't think that that's what they would ever
• 42:26
  allow to feel. No, not with this.
• 42:28
  Character No, no. And I but, and I also am at the
• 42:31
  same point going like I'm going to love it because it's it's
• 42:36
  almost like seeing an insomniac side in the Marvel Universe that
• 42:39
  is going to be rough and bloody and violent and things like
• 42:45
  that. What are you doing scratching
• 42:47
  your muscle? Well, whatever the my dirt
• 42:50
  stash. Yeah, Wolverine is a character
• 42:55
  that is mature. This is not for children.
• 42:59
  He is not. He's a cigar smoking, whiskey
• 43:02
  drinking, alcoholic, very angry person.
• 43:07
  This is the. Darkest.
• 43:08
  This is the darkest side of our psyches that is trying to behave
• 43:13
  and trying to be the better person, but ultimately doesn't
• 43:17
  always get there. Logan's story is flawed.
• 43:21
  Logan is not a perfect person. He's not a perfect hero, but he
• 43:24
  tries. He is that part of us that wants
• 43:28
  to do better but can't always do that because he resorts to old
• 43:32
  ways and sometimes those old ways work.
• 43:36
  This is that and I love that. Like, I mean, the first show
• 43:41
  that we saw was Logan in a bar. Yeah.
• 43:43
  What better way to show what you're getting into than that?
• 43:48
  It. This is great.
• 43:49
  This looked. And as a comic lover, Omega Red,
• 43:57
  are you out of your fucking mind?
• 43:59
  That's what I heard. A lot of comic people or comic
• 44:01
  people were very excited about that.
• 44:03
  And like there's also a lot of other characters that they're
• 44:05
  going to like that they. Yeah, Mystique, she was.
• 44:08
  Disguised as Bastion. Yeah.
• 44:11
  Like I saw Bash and I was like, OK, cool.
• 44:13
  And then there was a Prime Sentinel, and then you had the
• 44:16
  Sentinel. Like the only thing missing here
• 44:18
  that I think they're not going to show.
• 44:20
  Really. Right.
• 44:21
  Omega Red is cool, but he's not Sabretooth cool.
• 44:25
  He's not Silver Samurai cool. Oh boy.
• 44:27
  Or Lady Deathstrike. Cool.
• 44:28
  Oh wow. Oh, sorry, I'm reading the
• 44:32
  development of the game on Wikipedia while you're talking.
• 44:35
  I'm listening to you. Yeah.
• 44:36
  Yeah, I saw. I read a sentence here that made
• 44:39
  my eyes perk up. Have you ever played Spec OPS
• 44:41
  the Line? The writer for that game, Walt
• 44:49
  Williams, is part of this. That game was incredibly dark.
• 44:54
  Mary Kenny served as the game's writer with Spec OPS the Line
• 44:58
  writer Walt Williams. So the we are in for a very in
• 45:03
  your head game. This is a mental illness getting
• 45:08
  like whoa. Let's the game's creative and
• 45:12
  game directors are Brian Horton and Cameron Christian
• 45:15
  respectively reprising their roles from Marvel Spider Man
• 45:17
  Miles Morales, with Horton describing the game as full size
• 45:20
  mature tone in contrast to Miles Morales as well.
• 45:26
  They are also everything's in the same Earth as well.
• 45:29
  They're all in Earth. 10:48 so this is shared with Spider Man.
• 45:32
  This could OK. And that's what drew them
• 45:36
  originally to this, by the way, that's what drew them to the the
• 45:39
  story and wanting to adapt Wolverine was that Wolverine and
• 45:44
  Spider Man share the they said that notably the fact that both
• 45:49
  heroes felt or feel deeply compelled to defend people who
• 45:53
  are less able to do so. So Insomniac eventually elected
• 45:57
  to pitch this idea to Marvel and Sony as their next licensed
• 45:59
  property following their successful collaboration with
• 46:01
  the two parties on making Marvel Spider Man.
• 46:04
  And of course, they obviously agreed.
• 46:07
  I think that's going to, I think that's going to be really cool.
• 46:11
  I love that. I don't know.
• 46:14
  I just, I, I have wanted to play Wolverine in a game like that is
• 46:22
  made for him since X-Men Origins, and I haven't had one.
• 46:27
  And so this is one of those games where it's like.
• 46:30
  As an adult now too. I don't.
• 46:32
  I don't like, and that's The thing is that you guys like, you
• 46:34
  and Brody are probably the other people that come to mind when I
• 46:37
  think about Wolverine because you guys love him in such a way.
• 46:40
  But you guys know him from the comics and you know him from
• 46:42
  like the TV shows, the animated TV shows.
• 46:45
  I basically know him and I'm doing myself a disservice with
• 46:49
  saying this. So please don't beat me up.
• 46:51
  Brody. I I really only know him from
• 46:54
  Wolverine tattoo. I know.
• 46:56
  Yeah, really. I'm really I'm playing with fire
• 46:58
  here. I really know Wolverine from the
• 47:05
  some of the some of the X-Men movies, particularly Logan,
• 47:10
  which Logan for me had a bless you profoundly deep impact.
• 47:18
  I don't know, you sneezed or coughed.
• 47:21
  Well, whatever. I don't know.
• 47:21
  I didn't know if you muted or not though.
• 47:23
  Now I look stupid. OK, thank you.
• 47:27
  Crazy. There it goes again.
• 47:29
  Shut up. Like Logan for me was a very
• 47:33
  impactful movie. So like I loved, but I got it in
• 47:38
  that sense of like right there with that heroes feel deeply
• 47:42
  compelled to defend people who are not able to to do that for
• 47:45
  themselves, right. Logan is kind of that almost
• 47:48
  that in essence, like bottled into two hours of like he is
• 47:54
  physically unable to fight on, but he keeps doing it because he
• 47:57
  knows other people cannot do what he can do.
• 47:59
  And like, he contends with, he has to, and he contends with his
• 48:03
  violence and his choices and like, I felt it to be a very,
• 48:07
  very deeply moving movie and, and.
• 48:11
  Seeing Xavier. Xavier is in that film.
• 48:15
  Is yeah, it's very, very sad. Fucking Xavier.
• 48:19
  It's very sad. Man who literally who would
• 48:23
  always did some cool things with.
• 48:26
  My alien, it also shows to like, I like that and that you don't
• 48:30
  really know what's happened in this future Earth so much.
• 48:33
  You kind of you're just giving. Yeah.
• 48:35
  You just are giving glimpses of it.
• 48:36
  And you understand that, like, the mutants have basically been
• 48:39
  all wiped out and they're like some of the last remaining and
• 48:43
  like that just had a very big impact on me.
• 48:45
  So like to see that Walt Williams from Spec OPS the Line
• 48:50
  is writing this or helping write it makes me feel very interested
• 48:55
  because it's like I think that game should learn more into
• 48:58
  that. Like I love I have a love hate
• 49:03
  relationship with the lassos too.
• 49:04
  This is cool. The The Boss and Beyond podcast
• 49:07
  is like a living archive of my slow love and hatred of this
• 49:11
  fucking game. But like like it gives me that
• 49:16
  game was very hated at the time for how it was not afraid to
• 49:20
  just piss you off as being the player.
• 49:23
  And I think that there's a way games can do that without
• 49:25
  necessarily being as rough around the edges as I think the
• 49:29
  Last of Us 2 did it where I felt like sometimes it just did it to
• 49:31
  piss you off and maybe felt like it had more of a self-righteous
• 49:36
  point than it was maybe worth it for.
• 49:38
  No, you're fine. I would like to see insomniacs
• 49:41
  take on something like that where like you have to play
• 49:44
  Wolverine and do something just pretty fucked up and and like.
• 49:47
  Have to do that. Like, like you have to, you have
• 49:51
  to make the player feel awful in a way that like, and I, I say
• 49:56
  that, you know, instead of just, I don't think that's necessarily
• 49:59
  the best terminology, but like you have to put them in the same
• 50:01
  mindset that Logan might be in at that moment.
• 50:07
  While playing this game, you need to make tough decisions
• 50:11
  that you know Logan doesn't want to make, but he makes them
• 50:14
  because he thinks those are the best decisions to make at that
• 50:18
  point in time. At that moment and.
• 50:21
  I cannot get this catch out of my throat.
• 50:24
  You're good anyways. But that is important to Logan's
• 50:28
  character. It is.
• 50:30
  I'll do the things that. Other people won't.
• 50:32
  Scott won't do right. Scott Summers will not do this.
• 50:36
  I will do it. Right, I will.
• 50:38
  Be the bad guy, because I have to be the bad guy to be the good
• 50:42
  guy. In the end, that's fucking fine.
• 50:44
  That's a very interesting idea that I hope they play with too.
• 50:47
  And that how does how does this, this particular Wolverine feel
• 50:52
  about that right? Does he does he is he more of a
• 50:55
  brooding Wolverine, or is he more of someone who like kind of
• 50:58
  accepts his fate as someone who will have to do violent things
• 51:00
  to achieve good ends? Or is he someone who will be
• 51:03
  more conflicted? And I think he'll be more
• 51:07
  conflicted. I think he'll be more
• 51:09
  conflicted. And I mean, the trailer kind of
• 51:11
  showed that too. Like, it showed a lot of great
• 51:13
  combat and a lot of blood and violence.
• 51:15
  And I thought that was a really great, like, I, I'm sure that's,
• 51:20
  to add to this is probably from a build that's very recent and
• 51:23
  it's coming out in a year from now.
• 51:24
  So I'm sure that by the time it comes out, it will be even more
• 51:27
  smooth. It'll be even more bloody, more
• 51:30
  violent. Talked about the blood.
• 51:31
  They had to get the blood just right.
• 51:33
  Well they even there was a someone who said too that the I
• 51:36
  don't know if it was during the state of play or if it was
• 51:38
  during something after that where I think they had mentioned
• 51:41
  how they almost felt that the the claws through the face was
• 51:45
  too much. After the state of it.
• 51:48
  Was after the. It was during, Yeah, it was
• 51:50
  after the trailer, yeah. And they were talking more about
• 51:52
  it. And yeah, I remember that that
• 51:53
  person had said yeah, like basically I think that that
• 51:56
  could have been too much. But then I saw it and I was
• 51:59
  like, it's gotta be. It's Wolverine.
• 52:02
  It has to be, well, it's also, it's also a pretty iconic move.
• 52:06
  I mean, that was a very big thing that he did X Logan a lot.
• 52:09
  In X-Men 2 during the mansion raid scene there is a scene
• 52:14
  because that was APG 13 movie. This is like what, 2002?
• 52:19
  Oh man, I was I I saw it with pops.
• 52:22
  I mean I was 2 if that's when it came out.
• 52:25
  It was me, Ed, Sandy and Pops. It was.
• 52:28
  It was called X2, right? X2 X-Men 2 So there's a scene
• 52:33
  when they striker and like government.
• 52:35
  Basically I. Was I was three years old
• 52:39
  they're. Rating the they're rating the
• 52:41
  school for the Gifted and Wolverine just drops out.
• 52:47
  A soldier turns around, boom, uppercut blades right through
• 52:50
  that, through the bottom jaw. They show.
• 52:53
  I went that's Wolverine. Like, this is who this character
• 52:58
  is. Yeah, once you, once you it's
• 53:01
  poking the bear. He's a nice guy.
• 53:04
  Yeah, yeah, poking the bear once.
• 53:05
  That poke, that, that that initial poke, go.
• 53:09
  All right, all right, bub, here we go.
• 53:12
  And like, yeah. No, never mind.
• 53:14
  Finish your thought and then I I want to ask you a question
• 53:16
  before we. I just I'd I think from the
• 53:20
  trailer alone Insomniac has shown me that Wolverine is in
• 53:25
  such good. Yay, I already finished is in
• 53:29
  such good hands. Well, I haven't done that yet.
• 53:32
  It's not the end of the night, so you know.
• 53:38
  You think that? You think that Wolverine's in
• 53:39
  good hands? Anyways.
• 53:43
  OK, great. YouTube check us out Spawn camp
• 53:46
  Co Wolverine is in great hands yeah, because they're they're
• 53:51
  really diving deep into the psyche of the you can see it
• 53:54
  there and people are like oh from a trailer yes yes.
• 53:58
  Well, everything after the the the fact that they've taken the
• 54:02
  time to make the cover art be rough, that they've chosen to,
• 54:08
  you know, go with they they've chosen to go with Liam McIntyre
• 54:13
  for the voice and, and Liam getting a chance to.
• 54:16
  Yeah, well, and well, and I didn't think it was going to be
• 54:19
  Troy anyway, because like, yes, I know he's in everything.
• 54:21
  But Troy I think does not, is not capable of doing a Wolverine
• 54:24
  voice. Like, I think he's capable, he's
• 54:26
  capable of doing a lot of things, including apparently a
• 54:28
  very good Harrison Ford impression.
• 54:31
  But like, he's he's really good at that.
• 54:34
  He's like incredibly good. I was just playing Indiana Jones
• 54:37
  the other day and I was like, oh, my God, I keep forgetting
• 54:39
  that it's not Harrison Ford. Like, so I didn't think it was
• 54:45
  going to be him anyway, but I didn't know who it would be.
• 54:47
  So and I I had seen his name before, but I didn't remember
• 54:50
  who he was. But like the fact that they like
• 54:54
  again, that the fact that the 10 minutes or so, the last 10
• 54:58
  minutes of the state of play was dedicated to not just the
• 55:00
  trailer, but also giving Insomniac the room to go.
• 55:03
  Here's our actors, here's our designers, here's our marketing
• 55:07
  people, here's everybody that's worked on this game for however
• 55:10
  many year, for essentially probably six years, 5 or 6
• 55:14
  years. And what they've wanted to show
• 55:18
  with this game for so long. And also it's coming to you in a
• 55:20
  year from now. And everything reflects Logan's
• 55:26
  personality. You know, the cover art reflects
• 55:30
  his, his roughness, his he's incomplete.
• 55:34
  He's not a finished canvas, so to speak.
• 55:38
  I, I hope that the game doesn't necessarily finish his story.
• 55:45
  I hope that it does leave room. I think that they will make a
• 55:47
  Wolverine too. So I'll just say that now
• 55:50
  they're going to, they're going to, I'll be 30 by the time it
• 55:52
  comes out. So that's wild to even think
• 55:53
  about. But that doesn't matter.
• 55:57
  To add to this to, to say my question or to ask my question
• 56:02
  to you, is there any specific, like if you had to name a
• 56:08
  couple, however many you want, Like what gameplay elements do
• 56:13
  you want to see in this that maybe we haven't seen from
• 56:17
  Insomniac or we have the play from Spider Man that you just
• 56:19
  want to see added into this? Like obviously I don't, I don't
• 56:22
  think this is going to be an open world game.
• 56:25
  I think this is going to be. Linear.
• 56:27
  I think it's going to be a linear narrative, but I don't
• 56:29
  think it's going to be short. I don't think it's going to be
• 56:30
  like 10 missions. I think it's going to be like
• 56:32
  20. Like I think this.
• 56:33
  Is going to be at least a 30-40 hour game.
• 56:36
  Right. I think it's going to have a lot
• 56:37
  of very. Long story with a lot of shit to
• 56:39
  do. I would like to see a mix
• 56:43
  between God of War, Spider Man with like hinges of Assassin's
• 56:50
  Creed. And what I mean by that is the
• 56:52
  movement at times the obstacle movement, right?
• 56:57
  So you see a wall in Assassin's Creed, you see a wall.
• 57:01
  You're able to fucking really just like parkour essentially.
• 57:05
  Mirror's Edge is a great example I suppose.
• 57:08
  Parkour and grab that wall and treat it.
• 57:11
  Dying like the beast. Dying like the beast is great.
• 57:13
  No that is dying light is great for this.
• 57:16
  Those are elements I want to see combat wise.
• 57:18
  I really want them to grow into their own ear, but like to take
• 57:21
  elements of God of War here. There are great elements in the
• 57:24
  new God of War games that are not just QTE.
• 57:28
  And what I mean by that is the combat and God of War feels
• 57:32
  fleshed out. It feels very visceral.
• 57:35
  Wolverine needs to go above and beyond that.
• 57:37
  When those adamantium claws strike, I need to feel as if
• 57:41
  those just tore flute through flesh.
• 57:45
  I need to feel weight. I need to adhere weight to those
• 57:48
  hits and tear and bone crush like.
• 57:54
  So to answer your question, I really want to see some mix
• 57:56
  between God of War and like Dying Light Assassin's Creed.
• 58:01
  Like there's a lot here, but I also want them to grow into
• 58:04
  their own thing here. Spider Man's a great example
• 58:06
  too. Spider Man.
• 58:08
  Yeah, like there's things you could look at Spider Man and go
• 58:10
  well, the Tucker on this and that.
• 58:11
  But like when you play Spider Man and I know the joke is you
• 58:15
  feel like, but you do feel like Spider Man.
• 58:18
  Oh, you're right. Well, like, people can make that
• 58:20
  joke all they want, but like, yeah, that's entirely the point
• 58:23
  of it. That's how you're supposed to
• 58:24
  feel. I mean, it would be pretty
• 58:25
  stupid if you played Spider Man and you felt like, you know,
• 58:27
  Nick or Evan. You shouldn't feel that way.
• 58:30
  Yeah, Yeah, I would be pretty mad if I played a Spider Man
• 58:32
  game and felt like me. Conflicted.
• 58:33
  When I play this game, I want the questions to be posed to me
• 58:38
  and what is what I'm doing right?
• 58:42
  I agree with all those points to to give my share of that
• 58:49
  question of like gameplay elements that I want to see.
• 58:52
  I'm going to get a bit more granular here.
• 58:57
  I don't want there to be a traditional health bar.
• 58:59
  I want it to be me getting damaged and the adamantium
• 59:04
  slowly showing the rest of his frame until it eventually is too
• 59:07
  much and he just dies. That'd be.
• 59:11
  Sick. Because that is how X-Men
• 59:13
  Origins did it and I'm sorry if a game from 2013 can do it.
• 59:16
  I don't understand why a game from 2025 can't.
• 59:18
  I'd be pretty annoyed if I kept watching Logan get shot with a
• 59:21
  billion rounds and I just see a bar go away and then I'm dead.
• 59:25
  I'd. Rather, I'd rather the skin just
• 59:26
  start. Going right exactly.
• 59:29
  Yeah. And well, and that would again
• 59:30
  be really cool to see because again, in 2013 or whenever, when
• 59:36
  when Origins came out, that was very cool because, yeah, he
• 59:40
  would get shot in the face and half of his face would get blown
• 59:43
  off. And you would watch it get
• 59:44
  rebuilt in real time as you were playing.
• 59:47
  And that's how you knew that you were at full health again.
• 59:50
  To add to that, again, more things from X-Men Origins.
• 59:54
  I would love to see environmental executions.
• 59:57
  So almost sort of like how in Doom Eternal or Doom 2016 where
• 1:00:02
  you would hit a demon a certain amount of times and they would
• 1:00:05
  flash a certain color and then then you got close, you'd be
• 1:00:08
  able to get the button prompt to do it.
• 1:00:09
  I think that that should be a thing in this as well as I'm
• 1:00:15
  sorry bro if you're next to a power box or an electrical box.
• 1:00:19
  Yeah, Wolverine should be able to stab you into it, shock you,
• 1:00:23
  and then, honestly, to add insult to injury, grab.
• 1:00:26
  His other arm and shock. I was gonna say give his claws
• 1:00:30
  like electrical powers for like 1015 seconds and now all of a
• 1:00:33
  sudden he's applying electrical damage to everybody.
• 1:00:36
  That would be more God of War like if anything.
• 1:00:39
  But I think that that's a really cool idea to mess around with
• 1:00:42
  because that gives you a lot of different, you know, it only
• 1:00:44
  works for probably certain elements, right, Where we
• 1:00:47
  probably wouldn't work for fire very much.
• 1:00:48
  He'd probably get pretty pissed off if he was on fire.
• 1:00:52
  But like that's also something I think that might be cool.
• 1:00:54
  I'm sure that there will be some sort of ability like in God of
• 1:00:57
  War Ragnarok where you can sort of have a special ability with
• 1:01:00
  might be Logan's rage and you can sort of come by.
• 1:01:03
  I'm sure that they'll probably do that where you have.
• 1:01:05
  I mean, God of War Ragnarok is a very kind of a pioneer in that
• 1:01:09
  in terms of a single player RPG and air quotes kind of like
• 1:01:13
  experience where you can that that left trigger or like the
• 1:01:18
  left stick or right stick, but you know, the combinations you
• 1:01:22
  can choose if that gives you more damage or just outright
• 1:01:25
  heals you or whatever. And I think that Wolverine
• 1:01:28
  should come with that level of customizability where I can
• 1:01:31
  choose if I want my my Wolverine to be more of like he heals
• 1:01:35
  instantly if I use that ability or he just is filled with rage
• 1:01:39
  and suddenly can attack even like the strongest of enemies
• 1:01:43
  with like basic attacks and deal some.
• 1:01:45
  Damage. Right.
• 1:01:46
  Yeah, exactly. Like that would be really cool
• 1:01:49
  to to see because. And I think that's kind of a
• 1:01:52
  hidden gem of that whole thing yesterday is that they showed
• 1:01:56
  not that much like they showed the trailer.
• 1:01:59
  They showed some combat and then yeah, well, they hit a lot in
• 1:02:02
  plain sight. But they also like, we didn't
• 1:02:04
  see the how the health system works.
• 1:02:07
  We didn't see if like your special abilities, if you have
• 1:02:10
  any. We didn't see how.
• 1:02:11
  About how he tracks things. Well, that too, yeah, we did see
• 1:02:14
  that. Like that was cool.
• 1:02:15
  No, we didn't. We didn't see how he tracks.
• 1:02:17
  Oh, we didn't see. Oh, no, we didn't.
• 1:02:19
  Yeah, you're right. Sorry.
• 1:02:20
  My bad. Because.
• 1:02:20
  He's got a super sniffer on him. Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:02:23
  No, you're right. So like that's going to well,
• 1:02:25
  that would also be really cool as like a couple of missions too
• 1:02:27
  where you're more, you know. Detective.
• 1:02:30
  Yeah, tracking something down. Well, I mean, that's kind of, I
• 1:02:32
  mean, that would be kind of pretty sick because like, I
• 1:02:37
  mean, that was the hidden gem for me and some of the Batman
• 1:02:40
  Arkham games was that you would have certain sections where it's
• 1:02:43
  like you're not beating the shit out of just some goons or
• 1:02:46
  whatever you are doing an investigation on like this
• 1:02:50
  murder that happened because, you know, Joker did it and, you
• 1:02:53
  know, you're like looking out, here's the bullet casing, here's
• 1:02:56
  where the trajectory of the bullet was, you know, and that's
• 1:02:58
  obviously Batman related. But it.
• 1:03:01
  Yeah, that would be cool too, where maybe, you know, Logan is
• 1:03:04
  hunting down Mystique and he's tracking her scent through the
• 1:03:07
  woods to maybe that bar in the trailer, you know, and he knows
• 1:03:11
  that she's in there somewhere. He can't tell, you know, and
• 1:03:14
  that's just. Think she's Jean Grey?
• 1:03:16
  Let's see that. I I think that they need, I
• 1:03:19
  think that would be so cool if they lean into a wider universe
• 1:03:22
  of mutants that are just on the same earth as Spider Man and
• 1:03:25
  just, it's like kind of this thing where they're just laying
• 1:03:28
  low. Like, I think they'd be really
• 1:03:30
  cool. Suit him wearing that suit and
• 1:03:32
  some cuts. Where are the civilian clothes
• 1:03:36
  that would? Imply to me that he took a trip
• 1:03:38
  back to the mansion. Yeah, it would imply that they
• 1:03:41
  clearly are some sort of team or he knows, he knows other mutants
• 1:03:44
  and they are, they've clearly been, yeah, at the mansion in in
• 1:03:48
  the group that was. Like Scott Summers, like popping
• 1:03:53
  in talking shit to you from the X Wing.
• 1:03:55
  And shit, didn't they have Galactus in that trailer
• 1:03:58
  yesterday too? I didn't see Galactus.
• 1:04:00
  No, that was so that was a. Sent.
• 1:04:01
  Who was that Sentinel? My bad, not Galactus.
• 1:04:03
  So that's that's a Sentinel that's in the larger X-Men
• 1:04:06
  universe here. Yeah, I hit my mic.
• 1:04:09
  Very good, Nick, very good professional.
• 1:04:13
  So what we do see is Omega Red. Yeah, we see Mystique.
• 1:04:18
  Yep. And we see her disguised as
• 1:04:21
  Bastion. Yep.
• 1:04:23
  We see a prime Sentinel, which is like, probably tougher
• 1:04:26
  enemies. Yeah, we see, We see a Sentinel
• 1:04:31
  at the end. But I'm curious to see if
• 1:04:33
  there's going to be an internal struggle with Charles Xavier,
• 1:04:36
  with the mansion, with Cyclops. I mean, dude, like, why could
• 1:04:41
  you not throw Wade Wilson in here?
• 1:04:44
  They hate each other. That's The thing is is.
• 1:04:49
  You may not cause the comedic effect.
• 1:04:51
  Yeah. But Deadpool is also, at times,
• 1:04:55
  a very serious character. It would, it would almost, it
• 1:05:01
  would almost take it out of me to be in that game and see Logan
• 1:05:04
  going through a near death experience for real one time.
• 1:05:06
  And then he sees Wade fucking Wilson show up and be like, hey,
• 1:05:10
  dummy, you're going to be all right.
• 1:05:13
  That's a Dick. Why would that not happen?
• 1:05:15
  It's not that, it's not that it wouldn't happen or it's like not
• 1:05:19
  that it shouldn't. It's just I think this is going
• 1:05:23
  to be more. Serious in tone.
• 1:05:24
  I think it's going to be more serious in tone, so they
• 1:05:26
  wouldn't allow for it. But I also am curious as to
• 1:05:28
  what. But I'm curious because at the
• 1:05:30
  end of the day, we're fans of all of these characters and we
• 1:05:34
  want to see them. But they're obviously there's a
• 1:05:36
  contract written somewhere where they're like, you will not bring
• 1:05:39
  up this this, this character, this character, this character,
• 1:05:42
  this character, this character. And that's what bums me out
• 1:05:44
  because it's like, oh. Magneto dude.
• 1:05:47
  Because there's a scene where Magnet in the comics where
• 1:05:50
  Magneto goes and rips out his adamantium spine or his
• 1:05:54
  adamantium, you know, frame the bones.
• 1:05:57
  Right. Well, I, I want like in a
• 1:06:00
  general sense, I think it's very, I think it would be very
• 1:06:03
  interesting if you gave a company like Insomniac, like if
• 1:06:07
  Marvel and Sony came to Insomniac and went, we're going
• 1:06:10
  to give you free rein for 10 years to make whatever kind of
• 1:06:13
  game you want with our characters.
• 1:06:16
  And like, it can include Wolverine in this instance and
• 1:06:19
  go, hey, this is what you're going, you know, we're going to
• 1:06:22
  give you use any mutants that you want, use any storyline that
• 1:06:26
  you want, use any comic references.
• 1:06:28
  You do whatever the fuck you want.
• 1:06:30
  We don't care. But like, you know, that when
• 1:06:33
  they go into these deals, they're given the option of
• 1:06:35
  like, well, you know, here's our original pitch.
• 1:06:38
  And then Sony and Marvel get together or they talk separately
• 1:06:40
  and then they get together and talk.
• 1:06:42
  And then they go, OK, well, whittle this down.
• 1:06:44
  We'll take this out. We'll take this out.
• 1:06:45
  We'll say they can't do this. And then they give it back to
• 1:06:48
  Insomniac. And that's me speculating.
• 1:06:50
  But I just assume that that is how some of these, you know,
• 1:06:54
  agreements might go down because they.
• 1:06:56
  Brought up the Sentinels though, which you have.
• 1:06:58
  To no, yeah, and you have to. But like I'm saying, in terms of
• 1:07:01
  like the Wade Wilson stuff or even just other characters, like
• 1:07:05
  maybe. Scott Summers Jubilee would be.
• 1:07:07
  Cool. Well, it all depends, but like,
• 1:07:09
  you know, a. Whole rogue.
• 1:07:11
  There could be, you know, certain things where like it's
• 1:07:13
  even just elements of the story where they say, hey, maybe we
• 1:07:16
  don't want our character to be associated with this right now
• 1:07:17
  because a movie is going to be, you know, because at the end of
• 1:07:20
  the day, you know that Marvel's going to be introducing the
• 1:07:22
  mutants at some point in the MCU.
• 1:07:24
  So like, they obviously want whatever happens in these games.
• 1:07:27
  And at the end of the day, it's kind of where I'm at the point
• 1:07:29
  of like, who gives a shit? Just make, you know, these are
• 1:07:31
  games separate. These are games separate from
• 1:07:33
  the movies. You know, they shouldn't be.
• 1:07:35
  You shouldn't, I guess, be worried about relating them to
• 1:07:37
  the movies if that's what, you know, they would end up being.
• 1:07:40
  But like, I am excited for this game and a lot of ways because
• 1:07:48
  it's just the next Insomniac superhero title.
• 1:07:51
  And like they've done so good with the previous three.
• 1:07:54
  They've done where it's like to see them get the opportunity to
• 1:07:57
  be more violent, more mature, more serious, more dramatic.
• 1:08:03
  It's basically like giving a studio a chance to flex another
• 1:08:06
  muscle and go like, hey, here's what we can do if we're given
• 1:08:10
  the chance to go a bit darker and deeper.
• 1:08:12
  And also with the character that's more tormented.
• 1:08:14
  I mean, and that's saying something because Spider Man's a
• 1:08:16
  pretty fucking tortured guy. But Logan.
• 1:08:19
  But Logan is is almost on a different level.
• 1:08:23
  Problem child. Right.
• 1:08:24
  Yeah, that's the. Beauty here Yeah, he is one of
• 1:08:27
  the most beloved characters in the Marvel pantheon in the yet
• 1:08:32
  he is the one with the most flaws.
• 1:08:34
  He is the one who is though he. He's almost the most human in
• 1:08:38
  some ways with that kind of statement.
• 1:08:40
  Exactly because he cannot die, technically there are ways you
• 1:08:44
  could kill him. Yes, but, but most ways no.
• 1:08:48
  Most normal ways he will not die from.
• 1:08:51
  With him being as what he is, right, I could relate to Logan's
• 1:08:55
  struggles. I can look at Logan like I've
• 1:08:58
  struggled with that. I felt that way.
• 1:09:00
  I have, yeah, been at those crossroads.
• 1:09:04
  And that's why this character is important for Insomniac to be
• 1:09:08
  ballsy enough. And it's easy to grab a game
• 1:09:11
  like Wolverine and go. We'll just make it violent and
• 1:09:14
  we'll like kind of. Right.
• 1:09:15
  Yeah, there's a way where you can, Yeah, just dumb it down
• 1:09:18
  until like we'll make it. Dumb it down, yeah, but this
• 1:09:21
  trailer shows me that that's not where they're going.
• 1:09:23
  I never, and yeah no never would have the millionaires go.
• 1:09:27
  On No, it's Insomniac. Yeah.
• 1:09:29
  Like they're not, Yeah, they're not.
• 1:09:30
  They're not in the business of doing that.
• 1:09:31
  They have. A and I'm happy that they have
• 1:09:34
  the IP because this game is going to be special.
• 1:09:36
  It is going to be just we have hero fatigue right now in
• 1:09:44
  cinema. We in in pop culture, there's
• 1:09:48
  hero fatigue happening. James Gunn disagrees.
• 1:09:52
  James Gunn does disagree. But I'm saying a lot of people
• 1:09:55
  look at Marvel and go, I'm just so over it, but this is a
• 1:09:59
  character that can really grab you and go, we'll hold on now.
• 1:10:04
  He's not the poster boy. I think to to add to this and
• 1:10:08
  not to disagree with you, but. Could you imagine a Superman
• 1:10:12
  that played like Brightburn? Have you seen Brightburn?
• 1:10:17
  I don't think I have. You stupid fuck, you've never
• 1:10:20
  seen Brightburn. I'm so sorry, you didn't deserve
• 1:10:23
  that. I don't think I have.
• 1:10:26
  We're watching it tonight. No, we're not.
• 1:10:29
  Are you? Going to bed after this.
• 1:10:30
  No, here's the thing. You made me lose my train of
• 1:10:36
  thought. I hate you.
• 1:10:37
  That's why we're. Both drinking and rambling on.
• 1:10:40
  No, you're good and I'm OK. That's fair.
• 1:10:45
  I just. Just in case you were wondering.
• 1:10:47
  I, I deserve that. No, there was something that you
• 1:10:52
  had just said that I wanted to respond to.
• 1:10:54
  I'm trying to remember what it was.
• 1:10:57
  It had, it had something to do with.
• 1:11:00
  It's just that I think that I want to see, I'm trying to say
• 1:11:09
  this in a way that isn't just basically repeating what I had
• 1:11:11
  said before. But like I, I want there to be,
• 1:11:15
  I don't want necessarily need them to push the boundaries of
• 1:11:17
  how a video game like this could be like a single player sort of
• 1:11:20
  superhero experience. I don't need them to necessarily
• 1:11:22
  push the boundaries of that. But I want them to go and say
• 1:11:25
  like the story itself, yes, it's going to be dark.
• 1:11:27
  It's going to be rough. It's going to make you question
• 1:11:31
  what you're doing in some ways. But I also love like, I, I would
• 1:11:36
  love to see just how they interpret this sort of character
• 1:11:39
  in a gameplay sense too. Of like, you know, are we going
• 1:11:44
  to have like, I like, I'm assuming the game is going to be
• 1:11:47
  violent all the way around, but like, is there going to be like,
• 1:11:51
  what kind of skill tree is that going to look like?
• 1:11:54
  You know, for Wolverine, you know, how are you going to
• 1:11:56
  diversify his gameplay? Like, because at the end of the
• 1:12:00
  day, he's a guy who has fucking big fucking forks for hands and
• 1:12:05
  like that's a that's a dangerous that's a dangerous enough
• 1:12:08
  ability. So like, yeah, like is, is the,
• 1:12:11
  is the, the the kicker for him going to be?
• 1:12:14
  Is being that the is the kicker going to be the fact that he has
• 1:12:17
  extreme movement or that like, and is that going to be a player
• 1:12:20
  choice where you can choose to Hey, do I want them to be more
• 1:12:22
  like a mirror's edge character or do I want to be more like a
• 1:12:25
  walking fucking tank that can just take a bunch of damage and
• 1:12:28
  or would. Have their own flaws.
• 1:12:30
  Right. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:12:31
  And like, that's where I'm interested because as far as I
• 1:12:34
  remember, they didn't really, really discuss the sort of
• 1:12:36
  gameplay options or perks or skills, whatever that you would
• 1:12:40
  have as Wolverine. And so that makes me very
• 1:12:43
  excited because a lot of their conversation yesterday went
• 1:12:47
  into, here's the trailer. Here's like I said, here's the
• 1:12:51
  artwork, Here's what we felt about what we wanted to do with
• 1:12:53
  the story. Here's like some snippets of
• 1:12:56
  characters that you'll see. And we've left other hidden
• 1:12:58
  ideas of other mutants that you might see, you know, a lot of
• 1:13:01
  things that are just teasing it, but like, really thinking about
• 1:13:04
  it from a perspective of like, OK, you load up Marvel's
• 1:13:08
  Wolverine. What does your first two hours
• 1:13:11
  look like? You know, what does your first
• 1:13:14
  four hours look like? What you know?
• 1:13:16
  Are you? I literally hope we are hungover
• 1:13:19
  or drunk. No, I'm not joking because I
• 1:13:24
  want to see him at rock bottom. That would be really that and
• 1:13:28
  that would be really cool. Like I, and that's what I think
• 1:13:30
  would be interesting is like Insomniac has a real opportunity
• 1:13:33
  here to just go, all right, let's just you know what Spider
• 1:13:39
  Man 2 starts with what Peter, you know, he's teaching at
• 1:13:43
  college, gets fired, eventually becomes enamored with the
• 1:13:47
  symbiote and all that sort of stuff, which I thought that
• 1:13:49
  entire sequence in Spider Man 2 is really good.
• 1:13:52
  Spider Man 1, you know, different, you know, again,
• 1:13:57
  upbeat sort of story. Miles Morales upbeat sort of
• 1:14:00
  story. Like it would be really
• 1:14:01
  interesting to for. And I think that would also be
• 1:14:04
  kind of a statement from Insomniac of Hey, we're coming
• 1:14:07
  out with this game in the first mission is Logan's hammered
• 1:14:12
  Logan. Logan's hammered and stumbling
• 1:14:15
  home from a bar and somebody pisses him off and so he fucking
• 1:14:17
  cuts his leg off. You know something something
• 1:14:21
  where he, he. Yeah, like in a drunken state of
• 1:14:24
  anger, just like mutilates this dude and he, he feels bad about
• 1:14:28
  it the day after and it haunts him for say.
• 1:14:31
  Half of the game. You know, like it's something
• 1:14:34
  where it's just like you have such an opportunity to lean into
• 1:14:39
  this sort of, that's what I loved about The Batman from
• 1:14:42
  rapper Pattinson was that they had this opportunity to lean
• 1:14:46
  into this very gritty, real, awful, brutal, dark Batman and
• 1:14:52
  in The Dark World that we hadn't really seen on television or
• 1:14:56
  film in a live action sense in a long time.
• 1:14:59
  And it's like, dude, the 1st 10 minutes, I just watched it the
• 1:15:02
  other day. The 1st 10 minutes of the movie
• 1:15:03
  is murder porn. It's literally the the fucking
• 1:15:06
  Riddler watching that governor outside of his house and then
• 1:15:09
  appearing in his house killing him and literally touching
• 1:15:12
  himself as he tapes the body up. Like, really?
• 1:15:16
  Crazy to start a movie like that, to start a movie like
• 1:15:20
  that. It's insane.
• 1:15:23
  The superhero movie, like that's insane.
• 1:15:26
  So like it would be, it would be incredible to see Wolverine do
• 1:15:30
  something similar where it's like, yeah, it's Wolverine just
• 1:15:33
  fucked up from a bar fight. And it's like all these people
• 1:15:37
  were humans and he got into a bar fight because he instigated
• 1:15:41
  it and like, he willingly killed all these people knowing that he
• 1:15:44
  was the cause of it. That right there.
• 1:15:47
  And he can't take it back. And he can't take it back, he
• 1:15:50
  can't fix it, he can't, he can't earn any of these things that
• 1:15:53
  and yet it haunts him. Like that would be so exciting.
• 1:15:58
  I don't know, like it's just even just talking about it with
• 1:16:00
  you right now is filling me with these ideas of how the story
• 1:16:03
  could go. And I'm very excited for how
• 1:16:05
  Insomniac does it because I know that they do these things well,
• 1:16:08
  like they've proven it again and again.
• 1:16:10
  I mean, Spider Man 2 kind of went into some dark places where
• 1:16:13
  I didn't expect with, with Peter being under the influence of the
• 1:16:17
  the symbiote. So like to see someone that is
• 1:16:20
  going to be obviously, I think just more naturally of a dark
• 1:16:25
  character. You know, Peter Parker is
• 1:16:27
  inherently a pretty bright guy. He's always very optimistic.
• 1:16:32
  Logan would argue is very much doom and gloom.
• 1:16:37
  But I'll get the job done whether I live or die.
• 1:16:39
  Kind of 10 year old to now. Nick is just so excited.
• 1:16:46
  I'm sure. Kidding me is going Oh my God, I
• 1:16:48
  get to see this hero I've loved. I mean, I wanna play X-Men
• 1:16:51
  Origins now to like almost refresh myself even though it's
• 1:16:54
  like, I have no idea how this game is gonna be.
• 1:16:57
  This episode feels like such. We're about to wrap it up, but
• 1:16:59
  it feels like such blasphemy to not have Brody here.
• 1:17:02
  It really does. With us.
• 1:17:04
  With us. It really does.
• 1:17:05
  I, I actually am very upset that he's not here because he's he's
• 1:17:08
  the biggest Wolverine fan I know.
• 1:17:10
  I'm calling it. We're doing 2 episodes on this.
• 1:17:12
  I would be so happy. Next week, we'll bring Brody.
• 1:17:14
  In I would be so happy to talk about this with him because I
• 1:17:16
  really want to hear his thoughts.
• 1:17:17
  I I think it'd be very interesting to see what he
• 1:17:19
  thinks of this and just let him speculate like what he would.
• 1:17:23
  I just want to let him go. Yeah, what he wants to see.
• 1:17:26
  Like I have to just let Brody go and just like.
• 1:17:28
  Yeah, it'd be a disservice not to, you know.
• 1:17:30
  What I mean? No, I agree.
• 1:17:32
  I'll. Do this.
• 1:17:32
  Insomniac has a very big obligation and job to do here,
• 1:17:37
  and I think if there was any studio to do it, it should be
• 1:17:40
  them. Yeah.
• 1:17:41
  Wolverine, again, Logan's flawed.
• 1:17:44
  He's depressed. He's an alcoholic.
• 1:17:47
  Yeah, he, but he, he's grounded. He's you.
• 1:17:52
  He's me. It's our worst parts about us
• 1:17:55
  mixed with the best heroic parts about us.
• 1:17:57
  And that's who Logan is, and that's who Wolverine is.
• 1:18:02
  He's the prick inside who's not going to take shit but will
• 1:18:06
  stand up on business no matter what.
• 1:18:09
  Right, exactly. For the right reasons.
• 1:18:12
  And that's Wolverine and I fucking love Insomniac for doing
• 1:18:17
  this and I'm so pumped. So that is where I stand on
• 1:18:21
  this. Evan, you have one last thing to
• 1:18:22
  bring up. Just reading through the
• 1:18:24
  Wikipedia page again in September 2024, Insomniac Games
• 1:18:31
  is core technology director Mike Fitzgerald confirmed that
• 1:18:33
  Marvel's Wolverine would support enhancements made by the PS-5
• 1:18:36
  Pro as they were being implemented into their existing
• 1:18:39
  games for the console. Side note because we didn't
• 1:18:41
  mention this today. The PS-5 Pro and the like, DLSS
• 1:18:46
  version of the PlayStation, stuff like the PSSR or whatever
• 1:18:49
  to do to get a pretty big upgrade next year that would
• 1:18:51
  make basically make running games like GTA6 or Marvel's
• 1:18:56
  Wolverine like not only a 60 but probably 120 for like a normal
• 1:19:01
  monitor. I love this thing even.
• 1:19:04
  More. Now regardless.
• 1:19:07
  I padded my PC on the top. Over the and I saw that over the
• 1:19:11
  summer, Brian Horton left his role as creative director on
• 1:19:14
  Marvel's Wolverine to join the initiative at Xbox Game Studios.
• 1:19:18
  If you know anything about the initiative, they were He briefly
• 1:19:22
  assumed the role of creative director on the Perfect Dark
• 1:19:26
  reboot prior to its cancellation in the studio's closure.
• 1:19:30
  So I feel really bad for Brian here, as he left Marvel's
• 1:19:33
  Wolverine to join the initiative at Xbox and then basically got
• 1:19:37
  fired shortly after. Perfect darkest game that should
• 1:19:41
  be released. Which is, Yeah, like, not to
• 1:19:44
  yeah, segue too much off of this, but like, really.
• 1:19:47
  I mean, to be perfectly honest, Xbox has now left themselves
• 1:19:49
  another year of letting PlayStation dominate with
• 1:19:52
  exclusives. I.
• 1:19:53
  Don't know when we get Fable. Like, when is Fable coming out?
• 1:19:58
  When is Forza Horizon 6 coming out?
• 1:20:00
  I mean, I just saw today that it's apparently revealed that
• 1:20:02
  it's going to be in Japan, which is fucking awesome.
• 1:20:05
  But like, yeah, where is it? Like but.
• 1:20:08
  I need to see it. Where's the next Halo game?
• 1:20:10
  Where is any of your other IPS? You mean poster boy?
• 1:20:13
  I don't know because the last one was just.
• 1:20:16
  AI mean I like the story, I don't care that other people.
• 1:20:18
  The story was good but the multiplayer dude that's.
• 1:20:21
  Not no, it's not. It wasn't good.
• 1:20:23
  I like the story. I like the one shot take that
• 1:20:25
  they did taking after God of War.
• 1:20:27
  I thought that was pretty cool. I don't know, I think that I
• 1:20:32
  think that's just it's going to be another PlayStation year of
• 1:20:35
  exclusives because it's like they just, they have them like I
• 1:20:37
  mean even this man, like dude, I mean they got Ghost of Yote this
• 1:20:43
  year and then they got fucking Marvel's Wolverine next year.
• 1:20:47
  Like I'm sorry, they don't need to release like 3 exclusives
• 1:20:50
  every year. Like this is like Ghost of Yote
• 1:20:52
  is going to be huge like. It's going to be massive.
• 1:20:55
  I don't think people that are understanding it because it's
• 1:20:58
  going to be like ghost of Sushima, but Elden Ring style
• 1:21:04
  where it's you can just explore and find things and learn things
• 1:21:08
  as you go and just naturally uncover the bosses.
• 1:21:12
  I know, I know, I know, sorry, sorry, we're already 20 minutes
• 1:21:14
  over 25 minutes over. But like, I just I'm so excited
• 1:21:18
  for the future of honestly PlayStation games because like
• 1:21:21
  they have, like I said, Ghost of Yote, they have Wolverine and
• 1:21:26
  I'm sure plenty of others in between that I can't think of
• 1:21:30
  right now. But that's.
• 1:21:32
  Fine. Regardless, I'm I'm so excited
• 1:21:35
  for Wolverine. I I'm going to probably
• 1:21:38
  pre-order it. I depending on however the
• 1:21:40
  collector's edition looks, I might get it too.
• 1:21:43
  Yeah. Yeah, I might.
• 1:21:45
  We'll see. I think this could be the one
• 1:21:46
  that Brody does get. He doesn't buy collector
• 1:21:48
  editions. I think he would get this one on
• 1:21:50
  a heartbeat. He's going to buy this.
• 1:21:51
  I think he. Yeah, he couldn't.
• 1:21:53
  Show right now, buy you're buying it.
• 1:21:56
  He couldn't not. You have to.
• 1:21:57
  I said it. Last time I got him drunk he
• 1:22:00
  bought a Steam deck. Yeah, I mean, yeah, we'll do
• 1:22:03
  that. We'll we'll do that on Thursday
• 1:22:05
  next week when Ghost of Yote is out.
• 1:22:07
  No more recording. We'll talk about it because I'm
• 1:22:09
  I'm set. I'm I got to set up my
• 1:22:11
  PlayStation again. I'll try and finish test
• 1:22:12
  training before Ghost of Yote comes out on Thursday.
• 1:22:14
  Let. Me know when you're doing that,
• 1:22:16
  I'll watch you the entire way through, yeah.
• 1:22:18
  No problem, I got it right next to me.
• 1:22:21
  All right, all right, everybody listen.
• 1:22:24
  We are pumped for Wolverine. We are.
• 1:22:27
  Fucking so excited. We we have an episode with Noah
• 1:22:31
  coming out for skate. Yep, and his thoughts on skate
• 1:22:34
  and my thoughts on skate. We have an episode with Brody,
• 1:22:37
  Evan and myself for Wolverine that'll get recorded ASAP.
• 1:22:43
  So more Wolverine content here. We got more episodes coming out
• 1:22:46
  to screen box Tomorrow, Saturday, you get the Haunted
• 1:22:50
  Mansion episode. That's gonna be that's gonna be
• 1:22:53
  a house on Haunted Hill, Haunted Mansion, House on Haunted.
• 1:22:56
  Hill that we just Haunted Mansion.
• 1:23:00
  That's Alex's movie pick, so get ready for that.
• 1:23:04
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• 1:23:06
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• 1:23:09
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• 1:23:27
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• 1:23:29
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• 1:23:33
  Let's do this thing, dude, let's do it.
• 1:23:36
  Fuck it. Until next week, guys.
• 1:23:38
  Until next week. Take it easy.
• 1:23:40
  See ya. Be safe.
• 1:23:42
  No, it's be safe. Oh, be safe.
• 1:23:44
  Sorry. My bad.
• 1:23:45
  No, you do what? You want to do.
• 1:23:47
  You do what you want. Don't mock me.
• 1:23:51
  I just want to be a cool guy. Take it easy, everybody.
• 1:23:55
  It's cool guy.