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Living in Harmony with Biological Reality: Bonnie Sheldon’s Healing - from Trauma to Restoration · Terri Messenger's Genius Zone

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My name is Terry Messenger and I am hey, hey, hey and welcome,
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welcome to Terry Messenger's Genius Zone.
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Hey, hey, hey, and welcome to Terry Messenger's Genius Zone.
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And this is the place and the space where every week we bring
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you epic, powerful, profound coaching, healing, mentorship,
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wisdom, and boy, what a show we've got.
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Now you might be going, Terry, you say that every single week.
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And I promise to not disappoint because this is going to be
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about a very profound biological reality and living in harmony
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with natures laws and even healing and how you can approach
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illness with a completely different mindset than just the
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medical world. So for all of you that know me
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well, you may know that my husband, Dr. Ian Messenger, has
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been very, very unwell and has just been diagnosed, which has
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not yet been publicly announced of his diagnosis.
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But he has been given a critically very serious
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diagnosis, which will come about, I'm sure in the show.
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But we're going to talk about how even the every symptom,
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whether it is simply a ache, a pain, a disease, and how every
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illness has a story. And that story may just become
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your glory. Now, this wonderful, wise woman
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that I'm about to bring on her life began with trauma.
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So you're going to learn about how she had invasive surgery at
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the age of 4 and what happened to her as she was left in pain
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and struggled for so long and even ended up in a wheelchair.
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But she never gave up. And her journey reveals that
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disease is not an error but a biological program of survival.
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And this is a crusade that she has gone on through ministry,
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through profound teachings. And I don't want to take all of
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this and say it all because I would love to give this
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beautiful woman Bonnie. And this lady, Bonnie Sheldon,
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is an incredible woman, believing that movement is life,
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harmony is health. So with no further ado, let's
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bring on the beautiful Bonnie Sheldon.
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Hello, Bonnie, how are you? Oh, hello, Thank you Cherry, and
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thank you for those kind words. I'm very well and happy to be
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here. Oh, wonderful.
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Well, I'm very, very excited. This is going to be more than
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different and it's going to be, you know, such AI guess an
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experience that I feel honored to have.
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And and you know, there's many people who have got the chance
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and will have the chance to listen to this and really
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understand about your own story and even their story and how it
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has played such a significant role.
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But let's go back to the beginning.
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So you were born out of trauma. Can you talk me through that and
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what that means? Yes, I was born with what is
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called a congenital disability. We used to call that a birth
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defect. So there was a problem with my
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pelvis and I was not able to have that resolved at birth
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because you need to be a certain size to have surgery.
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And so they waited until I was 4.
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Certainly there is a lot of awareness and it was extremely
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traumatic surgery, just extremely traumatic.
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And afterwards I had a lot of pain.
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I could not eat, I could not go to the bathroom, my back hurt,
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my stomach hurt, my neck hurt, and at that time the doctors
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examined me. My mother was very concerned and
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there was no visible problem. I was declared completely
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successful surgery and kind of dropped out of my medical
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records. At that time, we did not know
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about the vagus nerve. And I subsequently learned that
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my vagus nerve had not just been compressed and insulted, but
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actually damaged. So that I had just regulated
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vagus nerve through my whole childhood, early upgrading,
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through teenage years. And that brought me pain.
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And I was essentially I, I believe now.
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And looking back, I was in functional freeze because it
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hurt so much and there were things I couldn't do.
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But my mother was a psychologist and she believed that if there's
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nothing wrong, then let's work with it and get up and go very
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motivational. Come on, Bonnie, you can still
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do it. And so I would am I, she was
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very strong lady. And so I would go and and do
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what she suggested and and I became involved, thankfully in
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many physical activities. I started to dance gymnastics,
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photon truly. And those things saved me
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because I was able to move and sweat and my body was able to
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release the the vagus nerve, the other that were building up and
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all the compression and all the anxiety, I had an outlet and
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that was a real benefit to me. That's incredible.
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And I'm, I'm, I'm kind of getting this gist of like a yoga
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where you're literally shifting your body and shifting energy
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and, and just releasing it. And, you know, it's even, you
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know, my husband, Dr. Ian Messenger, and I still address
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him as the chiropractor. He says that life is movement
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and energy and we need that. And so it's interesting that you
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hold that philosophy. So then you obviously went on a
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bit of a crusade as a result of, and I always say this about this
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show because the Genius Zone always brings back people from
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their pain to their power. And you went on a crusade really
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to find the answers. But that sort of, you know,
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involved you moving through ministry and ministering in a
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wheelchair and even ministering and choreographing whilst in a
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wheelchair. So what happened?
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You then went into some Matrix EFT, and I'm sure a lot of
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people out there have heard of EFT, emotional freedom
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technique, but whether they understand it from the full
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terminology, would you like to open that up and talk us through
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that? Surely I efg emotional freedom
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techniques was developed by a man named Gary Craig in the 80s
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and he built it on thought field therapy, which was a much more
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complicated way of looking at the fact that the acupuncture
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meridians, when we touch them and think about certain
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thoughts, we can actually change what's going on in our our brain
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and our emotions. And at that time, back in the
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80s, there was really no science behind this, but people found
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anecdotally, Gee whiz, it worked and millions and millions of
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people started using it. And now there is science behind
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it. And we know that by touching
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certain points, tapping with two or three fingers on certain
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specific points on the hand and body and torso, and it can't
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just be any points. We now have science that you
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can't just tap anywhere. And Gee whiz, it works.
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These specific acupuncture Meridian juncture points while
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articulating the emotion, the situation we're addressing or
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the belief we can reduce the emotional intensity.
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And they're the hand points, points on the head.
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This is an optional point, the third eye, the inner eye.
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And these are the basic EFT. This is an optional point.
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This goes directly to the vagus nerve, the wrist point and then
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back to the 10 points. And we have some finger points
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that we use in the next modality matrix re imprinting.
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But the one of the amazing things that has come with the
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EFT is that as the years have developed, there's been a lot of
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research. And we have over 300 studies
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now. And the several meta studies and
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Doctor Peter Stapleton's fabulous study would show that
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in one EFG last session, we can absolutely reduce the cortisol
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by 45%. And that is amazing that we can
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just reduce that cortisol by 45% in one EFT session.
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That is absolutely incredible. So I know that your studies sort
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of started out in, you know, you looked at a lot of somatics and
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Virginia City's work and advanced therapy and later EFT
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and matrix re imprinting. So where does the matrix re
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imprinting come into this? Because as I said, there's the
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EFT, but what exactly is the matrix re imprinting that makes?
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Different Well Matrix Reimprinting was developed by a
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EFT master, Carl Dawson and in EFT we look at this session from
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how we feel about it now a situation, excuse me, of how we
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feel about it now say we were bullied as a child.
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We go back and we look at that situation and we don't look at
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how the child felt. Then we look at how, what is our
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emotional imprint from that event and we work on it.
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And Carl was in a training and his he was giving a
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demonstration and the woman said, can't I just go help her?
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Beautiful insight. And he said, yes, do go help
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her. And so Matrix Reimprinting was
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evolved, but we don't look at it as it was for a movie.
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But we actually entered the scene as our present self, as a
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former self. And we can talk to our younger
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selves in this format. And we can never change reality,
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but we can change in an emotional playground, a better
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reality that creates a different emotional imprint.
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And it's as if the trauma that was there gets slowly erased.
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It doesn't go away, but the emotion of it slowly will just
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or quickly will disappear. And you're left with the energy
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of a better time and place. And it's beautiful.
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And we use different points, the brain points or there's a more
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modified version and we will probably do some matrix today.
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That's so exciting and that's what I was going to say.
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Stay tuned because it's going to get very heated up around here.
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Now I have a question on the EFT.
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I mean, I'm a master in NLP and hypnosis and I do understand a
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lot about the, you know, the unconscious, the five
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dimensional, the quantum and all of those elements.
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And I do have to say metrics re imprinting is such a great
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terminology. I love it so much.
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And you know, it's really explanatory of what we do with
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NLP timelining when we're taking people back to a different
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dimension and a different era of their life to heal the inner
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child. And I'd never really thought of
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it as that word matrix re imprinting.
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But I have to say that is just really, I love it.
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I think it's a very sophisticated word.
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My question is, can you do the EFT that kind of work on someone
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that is unable to perhaps move or do it for themselves?
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Well, it is possible to do surrogate work, but that
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requires an agreement and also an ethical safety component
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where we know we will do no harm under any circumstances, as the
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primary concern is to do no harm.
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So if someone is unable to work, we approach them.
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And I, I'll preframe this a little.
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We're going to talk about that through the relational field of
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those around them initially. And we do know that we have
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coherence how math has shown us. Like you can talk about that a
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little more fully later too, but we have coherence with those
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around us. So we approach someone who's
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perhaps not able to speak for themselves 1st through those
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around them and establish a hard coherence and then see whether
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or not it's possible to approach.
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And in in no case are we treating that person, but we are
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enabling the energy to possibly have a since every people are on
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the same wavelength, and the closer you ride to that person,
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the more you're on the same waving, there will be
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potentially an energetic connection.
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No, that's amazing. I just love that.
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So I guess because you know, it's going to really be quite
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powerful for people to witness what you are going to be doing
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in just a moment. And are there any kind of
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disclaimers that we need to make to our audience?
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Like sometimes if I'm, for example, doing some hypnosis, I
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would require to say, please do not drive a car.
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While you are listening to this, is there any disclaimers that
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you would like to say before we kind of hit the road running?
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Yes, I actually do have something I'd like to say.
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What we're sharing today is basically educational and
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supportive for everyone involved, hopefully including
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Ian Terry's husband. It does not diagnose or treat
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the disease. We are not in any way involved
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with the medical condition per SE.
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The ramifications of what we do, we can help for the best, but we
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are not actively in an on line session treating this disease,
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which is a serious medical, often fatal neurological
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disorder. And so we would not want to be
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in that kind of ethical compromise position.
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But if you're a loved one has these issues, always if you're
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doing this kind of work, watch out for any danger signs and
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consult medical authority immediately.
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And because Terry's husband cannot consent and this is a
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public recording, we're not going to conduct the session on
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him. We're not going to be fully
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surrogate and call up his inner child that that would be perhaps
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intrusive to him and his his spirit.
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Instead, we'll work with Terry's experience as a wife, as a
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caregiver, someone who loves him, her grief, her fear, her
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love, so that she can be more resourced and present and
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contributing in a positive way to that relational field and how
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it may affect him. Wow, that's amazing.
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Thank you so much. And you know, I just want to
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give a little bit of an example here in Bonnie's personal
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healing as she accelerated through moving and dancing.
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And all of those things came from default, you know, like you
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did that and you found that out. I would like to add that when
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you began working with someone, you were actually working with a
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man with Meniere's disease, and this was a classic, but would
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you like to talk about the symptoms he had and then what
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you discovered as the root cause on the emotional level?
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Yes. Well, now we're moving out of
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EFG and Matrix into meta consciousness, which is what
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we're also going to be working with the 33 modalities here
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today. And Meta consciousness, which is
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developed by Panetti Kroll based on German new medicine, is based
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on a theory work that was done by Doctor Hammer back in the
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early, late 70s and early 80s. And he looked at that medicine
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not from a pathological point of view where we take a disease and
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name it and then fight it, but from looking at the symptoms.
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And this came about because his son died of leukemia and he
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believed that there was a mind body connection and he wanted to
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explore that. And he developed 5 biological
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laws. The first one is that a disease
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is a reaction to an emotional shock.
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And the second is that that emotional shock will go through
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several phases of shock and distress and then regeneration,
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rest and cooperation. And in various stages we can
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have healing depending on where in the body that happens.
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And he posited that as we look at the brain and now the trium
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brain is still technically a theory.
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So when we look at the brain in five parts, it's still
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theoretical, but we have so much anecdotal information.
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We work with this when we look at the brain, as each part of
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the brain in this theory evolves, say for example the
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brainstem, certain organs evolved at the same moment.
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So in the brainstem, the survival organs evolved by as in
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the reproductive and the. The digestion system and so each
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part of the brain has its own areas that it is responsible or
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relates to. And so wherever we have a tissue
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or a problem, it does have some component that relates to that
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brain relay. And each brain relay has its own
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conflicts associated with it. Naturally, survival is about can
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I survive or what is happening to me where I don't feel I can
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survive. And each relay has a conflict.
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And so Meniere's disease, that's MENIERES is what I'm saying.
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Meniere's disease, this is a an imbalance in the inner ear.
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And when we look at it from a meta perspective, it's related
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to a falling conflict. And so when I did my research,
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because no one person can know the whole human body, we do have
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to research this to do a meta analysis.
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But when I researched it, I found out that this is a falling
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conflict. And so I said to him, was there
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a time when you fell dramatically or saw someone
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fall? And he said, yes, I saw my wife
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have a stroke and she fell down and and she's still very
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disabled. And he'd never dealt with that
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as a trauma. And in meta consciousness, we
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talk about those shocks in terms of trauma.
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And we define trauma in as an Udin UGIN.
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It's a moment that's unexpected, isolating, dramatic, and you
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have no resources for it. You don't know how to cope.
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And that was a classic Oodon for him.
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And so we went back and we've used EFG chapping and Matrix
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reimprinting to go through all of the things that happened
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during that stroke. And he has, at this point, not
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yet had the brain surgery. I won't say that we've totally
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resolved the Meniere's disease, but he is now aware of where it
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might have come from. That alone has brought him an
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immense amount of peace because almost everybody who has a
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serious illness says, why me? Why is this happening?
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How did this, you know what? I was going along and suddenly
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I'm falling on the floor. The why me becomes more resolved
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or not. People don't have to buy into
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the theory of some clients say, oh, well, that's interesting.
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But no, that was that was, but for him it was.
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And so we're still working through.
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But for me, that was a beautiful moment.
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Just for a. Period of time, I won't say I
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saved him from brain surgery, but that he was able to guide
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himself to an understanding where he's able to potentially
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avoid it is certainly delayed. I I was so moved.
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I I said I want to do this with my clients.
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That's incredible. So just to give a little bit of
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an example here, the first biological law, the iron rule of
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cancer and that comes from apparently conflict and shock.
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So this is this is just a kind of a like a little bit of a
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example of the way that body, you know, works and what meta
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consciousness is all about and the illness and how it
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originates from, you know, like actually Dirk Hammer syndrome,
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an unexpected, highly acute conflict shock that catches a
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person completely off guard. So it's interesting how, and I
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do believe this very much so, like I'm the sort of person I am
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so much caught up in this kind of spiritualism, if you will,
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that even last night I dropped a glass of red wine and it
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literally smashed and it went everywhere, all over the brand
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new rug. And I always feel that
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everything has a spiritual meaning.
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So how much more can it be credible that the body and the
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way that our biology is and how I mean everything they say
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disease is really dis ease and dis ease of the mind.
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So you know, I guess we'll just go through quickly briefly
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though, the the second biological law apparently is 2
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phases of disease, provided the conflict is resolved, which is
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what you were just talking about and how it works through that.
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The third one is ontogenetic system of tumors.
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Are you, I guess this is something that you've kind of
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looked into. The 4th biological law is the
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ontogenetic system of microbes, and then the fifth one is the
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quintessence. I can't even say that word the
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quintessence. Every disease has a meaning.
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Yes, yes, yes, I will. I answer that.
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Yes, yes, yes. Now I will also add that the
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reason we are no longer just talking about German new
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medicine is that we've expanded from Doctor Hammer's point of
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view. So Doctor Hammer and and many of
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his followers believe that cancer could not be cured and in
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medic consciousness once we've they did not have a way to
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resolve those biological thoughts.
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So when we moved into my first medical health and non medic
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consciousness where we have tools like EFG or any really any
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practitioner can work with accomplished practitioner in
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certain fields can work with meta consciousness.
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The theories some doctors, some nurses use it different.
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A heart math practitioner I trained with uses this.
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But we have a way now to work with the trauma.
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So some of the biological laws are absolutely relevant and
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others, yes, they're relevant and, and, and have meaning.
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But that last one, I'm going to ask you to read that last one
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again. That's so.
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Profound. OK, The fifth one, The
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quintessence. The quintessence.
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Every disease has a meaning. That is the main issue.
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Once we consider that illness might not be an attack from the
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outside, something we're going to fight, a pathology that we're
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going to treat with pills and medicine, but that there is a
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meaning behind what is going on because things in nature don't
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happen accidentally. A tree is seed is a seed is
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planted. It grows.
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It gets enough water, it grows well, it doesn't get enough
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water. It might be stunted, an animal
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is attacked, it's injured. Perhaps it was attacked 'cause
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it was thirsty, so it went to the water.
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There was a, an, a logic to what happened behind it.
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And it's the same thing. We are essentially as mammals,
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we're animals. And why would we have a
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different biological logic than the entire world, than the plant
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Kingdom and the animal Kingdom? Our logic would be different.
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And we we're suddenly struck by these sudden things.
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Now, there is a story behind the illness or the accident, and it
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can be very surprising. It can be very deep, it can be
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very old. It can even be ancestral or
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dramatic. But there is a story behind what
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happens to us. Incredible.
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Very, very, very powerful. So we obviously talked on the
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fact that I'm going through a crisis at the moment.
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And it's actually with my husband, who's just being
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diagnosed with very fatally critical neurological issue
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where it began out as what we thought was vascular dementia
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and it now has been diagnosed with, I cannot pronounce this
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for the life of me, but it's CJD.
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It is a variant that also is known as mad cow disease.
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So over to you, Bonnie, because I feel that you're going to kind
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of address it from obviously this is a you, you.
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We talk about an existential crisis for my husband, but it's
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also been very much a huge crisis for myself as well.
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And there's been so many things involved that has also brought
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forth in the same breath, a lot of my strengths, but it's has
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come at a very huge cost. It's it's not been easy.
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So I'm very grateful to have this this session and
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demonstrate your incredible just your wisdom.
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And what I would really, really love to do right now is some
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reflection so that as we create this beautiful podcast, it will
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be, you know, done in such a way that we will, you know,
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obviously edit it. But we want to make sure that
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people that get to hear it really understand the power of
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what has just happened. So perhaps what we can do now is
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firstly, I'm just going to talk about my own personal
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experience. And I was, I was wanting to hear
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that. Of course, I, you know, that's
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the next part, yeah. Yes, because this is the most
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important part. So, you know, the experience of
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what has just happened on a profoundly negative situation,
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which is now quite a phenomenally and profoundly
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harmonious, has brought a lot of harmony.
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So there there is this. It's almost like my brain has
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been untapped, like the fog has been removed.
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And you know, there's a sense that you know, during this and
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I, I love the verbiage you use. So when you're taking people
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through this, this is not just a normal EFT session.
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This is a phenomenal matrix re imprinting that happens through,
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you know, your beautiful guidance, Bonnie, of taking your
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person that you're working with back to the the past to sort of
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heal the future. And I guess what we can do now
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is open up to a person listening to this that's praying for your
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services and really, really, really requires this.
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Do you feel that your particular client that you attract tends to
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have a certain something that they're dealing with, like like
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a feeling like an, an energy or an emotion that they're really
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grappling with? Or do you find that it's it's
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it's just basically trauma or what's the theme?
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I seem to attract people who have complex medical conditions,
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serious very serious medical conditions or issues that
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reflect my own. Yes.
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Yeah, I'm really familiar with bones, muscles, faster
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digestion, all of my own issues, hard and connective tissue,
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Anything that's affected me, I, I, I automatic, I know the
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relays. I know them, you know, but
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anyone else, the research is very easy.
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But the people who come to me are the people who have not
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been, often have not been able to find medical answers or they
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have an answer that says there is no hope and they want hope.
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And I do believe that the power, there's power of feeling and
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hope. And so I don't offer hope.
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We're not results attached. We offer understanding and and
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that often does evolve into a positive outcome.
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That's that's absolutely phenomenal.
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And so you spent a lot of time in a wheelchair and, you know,
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it doesn't get much, you know, worse than that.
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So I know that's that's the situation that my husband is.
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And so we do you feel, would you put it down to this kind of work
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that has helped you move, you know, from that sort of at some
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points of your life, you talked about it being quite paralyzing
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to where you are now. Do you put it down to meta
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conscious work matrix re imprinting?
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Yes, very, very much so other. I do have to say I'm still
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working on my health problems, but I also include somatics if I
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had not. And by that I do include chikung
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and yoga. I'm a certified yoga teacher,
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certified yoga chikung and I, I do it all.
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I mean, I'm on that mat hours a day.
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I take responsibility for my own health.
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And that's part of Penny's program is I will do what it
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takes to be 100% healthy. Sometimes it hurts when I'm
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getting on the mat. But I do add that IIA 100%
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believe if I hadn't found the EFT, I would be dead by now.
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And when I hit Matrix, I was at a very crucial point also and I
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would I would not still be here. So I definitely credit that.
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But I do add that I think often there can be a somatic opponent
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that an EFT when we do the evaluation, the Sud scale, if
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someone's ears are still up here, there is zero and they're
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saying, I don't feel any fear. I know a little better that
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there might still be some fear there.
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And that's when we move, you know, into or even before into
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working with the body in, in many sessions, I include gender
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somatics or people are interested.
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I, I have a studio where we will have a somatic session.
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I had one client. I had one client and we did so
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many sessions and I, we could not find that original trauma.
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And I said you need semantics and and and she came back and
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she said my, my, my body knew what my mind had forgotten.
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Wow, that's amazing. Because the body, the body
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doesn't lie. And it's.
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Like the one and they're on the for trust of recovery.
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Their their motto is the issues are in the tissues.
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Oh wow. And I, I believe that too.
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I think it's all, you know, the cognitive stuff with the meta is
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wonderful if you're, you know, that's helped me tremendously.
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But it's all a big picture. You can't just do it with your
36:54
mind. Your body has to get on board
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too if you're not walking in nature.
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You're not living and, and you know, there was one detail that
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we didn't mention here and that is that you are 74 years young.
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And, you know, that brings me to the ageless, the ageless mind
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and timeless body. And I'm wondering if that's got
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a lot to do with the fact that you are on the yoga mat, you are
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moving your body. You are able to express
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yourself, you're able to utilize these tools.
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That is a huge contribution. But you say that age is just a
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number. And I can't help thinking that
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is absolutely right. I mean, my father, I'm not even
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allowed to say his age, but the fact is that for what he ought
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to be proud of his age because in, you know, golden years where
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many people very, very not so fortunate, he is still dancing,
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he still works, he still does all those things.
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And he would have to agree that it is also just just a number.
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And you know, I guess too, with the fact that, you know, having
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taken me through this, I just want to say to people out there
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that if you believe that you're holding onto trauma, whether it
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is in the mind, like probably for me, it was probably more of
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an emotional crisis, where for Ian, it is, you know, being very
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much a physical crisis. So, you know, this is the art of
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the work that Bonnie is doing where you're able to really
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resolve. And I feel that, you know, this
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is one of the things that happens, you know, in the world,
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especially when we, if we do lose our loved ones.
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And when we lose loved ones, that deep regret of, oh, you
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know, if only the, if only or I wished I'd done this.
39:25
But I feel that this is where the almost the presupposition of
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what NLP says comes into play in a big way.
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And that is that it's never too late to have a happy childhood.
39:39
And yeah, if I was kind of likening it to the work you're
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doing, it may not be childhood, but it's never too late to have
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a happy past because our past is creating our future.
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And So what you're really doing here is giving people that
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incredible gift of going back and almost recoding, rewiring,
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re imprinting. That's it exactly, yes.
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So that, so therefore, by doing that, that then kind of
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reconditions the mind and the body so that it can be
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reconditioned for the for the greater future.
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And that sort of leaves me with the question that I always love
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to ask on this show. And that is it wouldn't be fair
40:46
for me to miss this question, especially with such a
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phenomenal, gifted, wise woman like yourself.
40:54
If you jump off the show and you thought, oh, I wished I had of
41:00
shared that piece of information, it may be something
41:04
you want to reiterate that we've already spoken about or touched
41:07
on, or it may be something that you just really would love that
41:14
person to hear that is praying for your services.
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What words of wisdom would you impart?
41:28
I think I would say that the first step is to consider
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whether that person or you or whoever might be listening is
41:39
ready to accept agency or determination or control over
41:44
the next part of their life. If it's going to be kind of
41:48
riding along and what happens, happens, and that's life.
41:54
There's not a lot of room for growth.
41:57
If you're able to say, yes, I'm still in the game, I want to
42:03
grow. I don't even know how or I'm in
42:08
so much pain, emotional, physical, whatever.
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I need help. That help is there for both of
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those conditions and that, well, it may be too late if you're
42:23
diabetic and 65 and you've been living on junk food your whole
42:29
life to completely reverse your health condition.
42:32
But you can certainly extend your longevity, increase your
42:37
vitality, decrease your weight, stop the glucose spiking, and
42:41
get a control on what's happening in your life.
42:44
So if you're ready to say I can be in charge and it's possible I
42:50
could regulate these bizarre emotions I have, I don't have to
42:53
live in anger or whatever it is, then that that would be a great
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show. Oh boy, absolutely 100%.
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So if you have heard the wisdom of the incredibly wise Bonnie
43:12
Sheldon, then we have all the information in the in the show
43:18
notes. You can get in contact with
43:21
Bonnie and and you can book in your session.
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Let me tell you, you will not regret that because this is
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extremely sacred, divine and incredible work.
43:39
And you know, I'm sure like myself, Bonnie would agree that
43:43
this is just the gift that, you know, we're a conduit that's
43:48
coming through you and you know, you are being utilized to really
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set the captives free in so many people.
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So I just want to extend the most incredible, gracious and
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just amazing amount of gratitude and thankfulness to you, Bonnie,
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for what you've done for myself and unwittingly, I can safely
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say, for my husband as well. Thank you so much.
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And I mean, I feel honored to participate in in this process
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with you also. Well, you have a beautiful night
44:32
and remember you have one life, so absolutely make the most of
44:40
it. You deserve to be set free.
44:42
Get in contact with this beautiful lady and we will see
44:46
you on our next edition of Terry Messenger's Genius Zone show,
44:54
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45:00
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