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This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me, covering one Piece
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episodes three seventy, three seventy one and three seventy two. The Great Swordsman
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Mihawk Loofy comes under the attack of the Black Sword, The Exterminations, Strategy
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and Action, The Power of the Pacifistas, and Akainu's plot white Beard entrapped
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in these episodes. I had a moment where I got fooled about white Beard
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also, but the reason I was fooled was because I didn't know where the
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source of this info came from. And as soon as I knew, I
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felt like this guy was a real Dodo Bird. Welcome to spoil Me,
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Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you very much to
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Florian for commissioning this episode. Yeah, you guys, this kind of cracked
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me up because, like the thing about trusting information is that the source should
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be of concern and you should take that into consideration if you're getting your information
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anonymously and try and predict what it could be that somebody might be attempting to
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do. But it wasn't even anonymous. The source was the actual Marines,
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And I just really want to take this guy and slap and shake him,
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Like, why do you think they're gonna be honest with you about what's going
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on with white Beard? Why would you ever expect them to tell you the
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truth? What is the matter with you? You are a goon and an
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idiot. So anyway, let's back up and start with three four seventy,
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which has one of my favorite, uh the of the thumbnails of all of
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these episodes. It's just Boa with her head tilted back, pointing in that
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way that she has when she's like she's looking so far down her nose at
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you that she's actually looking up. It's just a joke that keeps popping up,
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and I really keep thinking I'm gonna get tired of it, but it's
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just really funny every time, and I feel like the animators probably had a
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good time like figuring out exactly how to draw this because it looks crazy,
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you know, And I just think sometimes about what it must be like if
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you're somebody who draws characters doing like wild stuff. But often they're just doing
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the kinds of things that, you know, the kinds of positions that a
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human body will often do. It's simply more extreme. Then you get used
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to certain, you know, a style of drawing, and I like to
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imagine that when they got to these moments with Boa, they had to get
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somebody and have them stand in front of them and be like, Okay,
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look, yeah, I couldn't find an example of anybody standing like this in
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stock photos for me to copy off of. So can you just come here
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and like weirdly almost backbend while pointing, and just hold that for a second.
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Hold it. I'm so sorry. I know that probably hurts your lower
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back really bad. I'm going to need you to hold it for just a
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little bit longer. Like it's just and her tits completely swallow her head so
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you cannot see her head at all. It's just like the arch of her
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boobs. It's really funny, you guys. I love this so much.
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So this episode is mostly about the attempt by Mihawk to fight Loufy and everybody
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around Lufy stepping in to keep him from having to actually do that. You
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know, I ended the last episode saying I don't really see that Lufy can
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win against Mihawk, so I don't get how he's going to come out of
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this, And the answer to that is pretty much that the only way he
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gets out of it is if he doesn't have to face Mi Hawk, which
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I really like. Just for the record, it's so difficult when you have
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people who are really high powered to continue for them to seem like a threat
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if you're going to have the main character be able to sort of plow through
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them when the plot needs it to happen. So I thought it was a
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really smart way to handle it of just having everybody around him combining their efforts
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to just straight up distract me Hawk and whatnot. And the distractions are very
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wildly in terms of quality. We have a couple of guys who come up
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who are yelling about like, hey, Meehawk, remember the last time we
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challenged you. Well, here comes a blast from the past to kick your
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smug gass. And these guys are coming at him with this full confidence,
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they are all prepared to win, and they come up running and me Hawk
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dispatches them with almost no effort whatsoever, and he just straight up says,
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I don't remember you your worms in a long line of them. Honestly,
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this is the sort of line that if I were still like out in the
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world dating, I would save because I feel like this could be something that
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you like, text back to an unsolicited dick pic and just be like,
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I cannot emphasize enough how unmemorable this dick is one worm and a long line
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of them. So these dudes, like I say, the quality varies wildly.
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And there is a guy who shows up later that it turns out Mihawk
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does recognize and it's not like they've met. It doesn't seem like but he's
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heard of him. But first Lufy is continuing to run. We had like
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things start off with Eva making room for him to get through a couple of
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places using death wink, and Mihawk manages to sort of slash at Loofy and
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it looks like he she manages to do some damage, like there's blood,
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and Lufy makes the noise and has that sort of like animation of you know,
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But all that really happens is that Lufy like slides into a wall.
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It doesn't look like his actual body is damaged. It seems almost more like
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the momentum of his running got interrupted. So anyway, jimbay Uh is the
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one who steps in here and he's saying, only Ace's brother would survive that
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attack. Anyone else would have been sliced clean in half, and I'm not
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really sure why that is, if you guys can explain it to me.
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I know that like shooting and cutting Loofy is more difficult because of his rubberiness,
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but it's not impossible. And is it like I would think that Mihawk,
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if anybody was going to be able to come at Loofy with a blow
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that would succeed in piercing his rubber and actually cutting him, it would be
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Meehawk that would be able to do it. So I don't really know.
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I feel like there's another mention at one point of how Lufy's ability is actually
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the one that's sort of the most badass out of everybody's and I don't I
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don't like, I don't disagree. I'm not trying to say that he's wrong.
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I think it's Captain Smoker who says that, But it feels more like
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it's it's an ability that's very adaptable and extremely defensive in comparison to a lot
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of the abilities we have seen, which are extremely offensive. And I'm sort
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of curious about whether you guys agree with that assessment, because there have been
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other abilities that are maybe a little bit more showy or seem a little bit
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more like sometimes straight up magical, and so they capture my imagination and sort
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of make me go, oh, that's dope. Like I'd like to see
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a little bit more of how that works. But we have really seen the
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versatility of Loufy's ability, and it's been a rare person that he goes up
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against who can affect him the same way that they affect the average adversary.
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I feel like the only people that I remember who managed to really fuck Loofy
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up, like in a way that I was like, maybe he's actually gonna
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be dead this time, we have Crocodile, and that was one of the
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first ones. Captain Smoker almost killed Loofy. But I'm not totally willing to
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give Smoker all the credit for that because I feel like there was more going
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on at the time. But maybe I'm wrong. I don't fully remember.
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And what's his name, the one from Impelled down with the poison. I
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keep wanting to say, magnet Animus. You guys, that's not Magellan.
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Magellan. He is certainly not magnanimous, Oh my god. But you know,
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there's been a lot of abilities we've seen that just the way they work,
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it just doesn't quite take the same way, and I am just really
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starting to wonder is he right? Is it? And is this was Lufy
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written this way specifically from the beginning to be like almost impossible to kill?
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Or I mean, of course he was, I take that back, but
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like, did the author realize that Lufy's ability was going to be more badass
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than a lot of things that he came up with later or has it just
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been sort of the necessity. Well, Lufy has to get through all of
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these like baddies, and so I have to find a way for his power
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to work so that he can survive this encounter, and that has led to
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him you know, the side effect is now he seems like a dude who
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just can't die. Ooh Luci also good thank you, Floren, Yes,
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good point. But anyway, so I was just sort of curious about the
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way that he says, like if anybody else had been hit with that,
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they would have died, but Louvi, you know, he survived it.
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And Jim Bay decides that he's going to face off against Mihawk, and it
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says like, well, I would sort of like for this whole thing to
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just die down I want peace, and maybe it's too late for that,
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but I gotta try, and I'm just sort of hopeful that maybe we can
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get there eventually. And I want to like save this kid over here.
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And so he does his fishman karate as he is going for it, there
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is like the firing of these cannons for far away, and he does breakfast
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as these cannons are They're coming from every direction. It's like a three sixty
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attack, and he is able to explode all of the cannon balls and Mehawk
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slices some of the cannon balls up in half. Like I was sort of
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surprised by that because I thought that Mihawk would be on the same side as
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the guy's firing the cannons, so I didn't really understand why he would want
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to assist Jimbae in avoiding the cannon strikes. But they come at each other,
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and you know, I, for one, had thought maybe Mihawk and
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Jimbay would be sort of evenly matched. It is almost embarrassing how bad Mihawk
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just tanks Jimbay. That dude goes flying and sinks through like a thick crust
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of ice and is underwater in a moment like, the only reason I'm not
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concerned about him is because he is a fish man. If he or anybody
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else, i'd be like, can somebody please go get him? Can we
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take a moment because that dude this, you know, it's just it's bad.
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So this is when uh loofy he has this like and you guys again,
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it's I feel like there's sort of sort of lack of clarity here.
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When he sees that Jimbe has gone down, Lufy is like, okay,
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you bastard. And he comes up against meehawk again and he is like his
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arms are going forward and then you see them get sliced off. But then
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he's punching the ground and he is like, oh, I see heaths have
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sliced off my arms. So that was him like imagining what would have happened.
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Okay. I feel like I just was not following what the animation was
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trying to get me to see there, And I think I got so caught
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up in like because I rewound this and rewatched it, and I felt like
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I'm still not getting what just happened here that I miss the fact that like
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in the next few moments, he actually says out loud why it hasn't happened
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yet, but yeah, so Meehawk is like, well, I guess you're
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not as stupid as you look after all, and continues to strike at him,
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and as Lufi is avoiding him, he's sort of looking around at the
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fighting going on around them in general, and he sees behind him because he's
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backbending to escape this strike that the whole top of that wave that is made
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from the frozen tidal wave. Basically Mihawk has sliced it all all And I
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don't fully get why except for like anime gunna anime, but that goes flying
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upward into the air in a way that I just don't feel like it would
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if you slice something like that. It doesn't fly up and then crash down.
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It's just it just slides back, you know. But so this makes
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like the iceberg turn into shrapnel essentially, and it's all coming down in chunks
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that sometimes are the size of the ships, you know. So everybody is
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very very distracted, understandably by the overall spectacle of this moment. And then
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we have Captain Buggy and he's yelling, hey, guys, it's time to
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make the plan called make Captain Buggy look like a badass go into action,
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because I'm pretty sure that they're filming this war and I will never get enough
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of this weird little side plot. You guys, it's not just the fact
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that Buggy is in the midst of this like weird campaign with these men for
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no reason at the moment. It's also the fact that we still have Mister
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three in there just rolling his eyes and being like, you guys are so
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dumb, Oh my god, And that really makes it. It's great.
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I just think it's super funny. The two of them paired up is a
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very very good idea. We jump over briefly to do Flamingo, who's like
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on this guy's back. I don't know what the deal is with this dude,
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but he is apparently trying to convince Crocodile to team up, and Crocodile,
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for his part, is just sort of like, I just don't see
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it for us. I'm so sorry. We're on the brink of a new
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era and it belongs to us, an era where all the powers that matter.
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What is it that he says, hold on trying to find it here?
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Oh that's right, he calls, like all these guys old fogies basically
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an era where all that matters is the power you yield. Sounds appealing,
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right, you want a piece of it? I bet, And Crocodile has
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a moment of just hmmm, Colm, No, I can tell you're intrigued.
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Sure, technically you've been stripped of your title, but when you get
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down to it, we're both warlords at heart, aren't we. And Crocodile
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is just like, dude, I don't like the fact that you're acting like
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you're my peer, bud. We are not on the same level. You
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should be asking to work for me, begging actually, and do Flamingo's like,
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well, shit, I really thought that the fact that you went to
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prison would have taken you down an entre too. Evidently not. And I
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do really enjoy like Crocodile and the serious, sort of dead pan quality of
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his interactions. He's just fun, man. I really hope that he sticks
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around again a little bit. Man. Here he says, get lost,
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you jackal, and he creates one of those like sand cyclones and dope.
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Flamingo is just up in the air a ball of feathers, and as he
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falls towards the ground in a very controlled way, is like, man,
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I really thought you could be reasoned with, but I guess not. So
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we go back to Buggy at this point, who is with amongst his men,
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his back turned and doesn't realize that this whirlwind is coming at him and
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it sweeps him and a bunch of his men up. It's like just collador
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damage. And it's clear Crocodile does not notice, and even if he did,
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he would not care. But I didn't find it really funny that Buggy
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is so uninvolved overall with this fight that he's just over here being like accidentally
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swept up into things in a very little real way. Excuse me. So
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now we go to Boa, who's arguing with Smoker. She I'm so sorry.
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Hold on you guys, let me take a sip of water. I
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don't know why I have hiccups all of a sudden. I didn't at the
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start of the episode, so what the hell? Okay, Boa once again
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calls Leafy her husband. The last time that we saw her like fantasy about
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this, it was the wedding, her walking down the aisle. This time
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it's about the honeymoon, and she's the way this is written, it's her
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and Lufy like sitting on the bed clinking. Champagne glasses him still in his
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white tues with like a giant lily in the buttonhole, and she says,
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let us absconde into the depths of amorous euphoria, which I swear to God,
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you guys, I I kind of I need to like make a little
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list somewhere of like phrases that I come across in things that I want to
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reuse somewhere else. And I don't know where I would, you know,
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maybe I'll write a character at some point who says the goofy shit like this,
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But abscone into the depths of amorous euphoria is the most spectacular way to
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say, we are going to fuck like bunnies. That's what we're gonna do.
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Actually, And even in her fantasy, she can't just let herself like
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have a good time. Lufy is like, why don't you know what if
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I get too famished by our love making? Basically, my darling cook for
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me so I can taste your love. And so now she's like, oh,
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cooking, okay, yeah, let me let me figure out how I'm
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gonna do that, and comes back to the presence sort of with like,
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I really if I'm gonna marry him. I have to figure out how I'm
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going to be able to keep him like satisfied in a physical, like non
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sexual way, because he has a truly legendary appetite. And she's we see
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like a montage of her carrying fish like that look like they're at least fifty
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pounds and stirring these huge pots of soup with like the kind of stick that
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they use really for laundry, and with one foot like braced up on the
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edge of it. I the whole thing here of figuring out, like,
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oh, I'll need to cook for him is actually kind of genius, like
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I realized when I stopped and thought about it. When you're considering a relationship
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with somebody and like what the future would be like together, you think of
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these sorts of things you consider, like, well, how would XYZ work?
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Because they're interested in this thing? Am I also interested? Is that
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something that we could do together? We would have to like account for that
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in the ways that we each approach something. And so her sort of stopping
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and being like, I'll have to figure out how to cook. It seems
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like all of her faces while she's doing this are very it looked almost angry
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a lot of the time. So at first I thought what I was getting
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off her was that she was like a bit upset at the prospect of having
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to cook for him, But as it went on, I started to be
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like, wait, maybe not. It seems like she's it's more like just
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determined, and she's super excited about it, and she's got this huge like
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cart that she's pushing, piled with food. And then we come back to
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her in the presence saying, I'll gladly pray embrace any challenge that life throws
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our way because it's worth it, anything's worth it to be his wife,
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and she giggles, has her hands clasped in front of her, completely lost
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in thought, and we come back and Smoker's standing there going, what the
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I can't tell if she wants to fight me or not. This cracked me
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up. I think the reason that it got me so much is like there's
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a lot of other much more comical characters that she could be doing this with,
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but Smoker's very serious, like he takes himself super seriously, and so
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him being the one that she's fucking with, and he's willing to sort of
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wait and give her space and be like, hold on, let me see
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here. If I don't want to just attack, if she's not intending to
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fight me, I'm not an asshole, so let me give her a second.
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And he does, and it seems like she's forgotten he's even there,
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and so he doesn't really know what to do or how to handle that.
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I thought that this was really really fun, and I just wanted to mention
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too, like I know that occasionally we'll sort of stop and consider who we
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want to be cast in different roles, and I was thinking about, like
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the way that we would do Captain Smoker. There was some fancasting online that
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I thought was really interested interesting. I saw somebody suggest Henry Cavo, but
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to be honest, I'm thinking of Captain Smoker as a lot older than that.
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There was a cosplay done by this dude who looked a lot like Jeffrey
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Dean Morgan, and it was pretty hot, and I was sort of like,
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Okay, you know what, Jeffrey Dean Morgan actually would be pretty tight.
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But if we were going to ignore the fact that he has such an
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imposing physique and is really wide the attitude of Captain Smoker, I feel like,
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we could do quite well with a Timothy Oliphant type, even though he's
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very narrow and has much more of a sort of cowboy vibe. Smoker does
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have in a way a cowboy vibe himself. It's just you know, a
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cowboy cross with like a WWE wrestler. But yeah, so anyway, I
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just enjoy the fancasting and I also I was thinking about who would play Boa
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because, like, the the thing with Boa is that she is a really
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funny character, but she doesn't know it. And so honestly, thet my
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instincts that I had when I was going like through my mental rolodex of who
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would be good for her, I landed on Jenny Slate, who plays Mona
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Lisa Sabristine in Community No Sorry in Parks and rec And, uh, I
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don't know where that came from. I feel like I kind of want to
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see that. She would play it a lot jokier and less serious than I
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imagine Boa in the show, but I feel like that could work. And
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she's so like obnoxious that her kicking down a sculpture that children made because she
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doesn't like how it makes her look, she could make that genuinely hilarious.
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So I think that I'm going for Jenny Slate for Boa. I'm just you
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know, we're just gonna do that anyway. I'm sorry, you guys,
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We're going I'm going off in so many different directions here. There's just a
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ton of fighting and it's all going on between different characters. So it's I'm
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having to like split my my conversation here in order to touch on everybody.
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She yells at Smoker at the end of this the only way you're getting past
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me is in a coffin, which was actually a very sick ass line that
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I liked a lot. So again, Loofy versus Mihawks still struggling to get
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past him. And I love the look when Lufy just comes straight at me
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Hawk and Mihok has an expression on his face. He you know, Mihawk
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is He very rarely changes expression. It's like the most you get out of
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him is a widening of the eyes for the most part, and you get
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it here, and you get it when he is up against this other dude
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a little bit later. So yeah, there's no denying his fighting skills have
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improved, but I've already seen all his moves. There's no chance that I'll
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miss again, not this close. And he's saying this to himself as Loofy
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is running toward him underneath the huge like cyclone of sand, and Lufy grabs
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Buggy out of the cyclone and he yanks him down in front of him and
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uses him as a human shield, to which Buggy yells, what are you
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doing? I'll die? And I was like, you'll die? Why,
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sir? Your whole thing is that you can get sliced a billion times and
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nothing happens. It's like it's like Buggy forgets his own powers occasionally. And
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I love the fact that Lufy says he heard Buggy say, don't mind me,
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I'm here to save you. He's like, that is certainly not what
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I said. And then he says gum gum human shield, which I just
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don't think you need gumgum ahead of that, because it's not your body that's
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doing anything. You're just chucking Buggy in the way. And Bucky gets sliced
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into literal ribbon like strips and is angry about this, so he chucks a
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Buggy ball at Meehawk, who in the most careless fashion, knocks it back
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toward him like he's, you know, like he's just playing tennis, and
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it slowly comes over to Buggy, who says, would you like to hear
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a joke? How's the buggy ball like a robust financial market? I don't
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know how is it? Say it together everyone, because it goes boom.
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That was really bad, you guys, that was terrible. It was so
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bad. I really love that the joke they came up with involved a robust
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financial market. I mean, I guess I suppose it's not what I would
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have reached for. I'll just say that, but sure, why not?
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So anyway, this again is buying time for Loofy and he runs away and
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Mehawk is like spots him and is like, what the fuck, We're not
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done, and he does another strike toward him, and all of his strikes
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I want to mention like it's bright green light. It's like green tinge with
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a little blue, so it's not exactly like a lime green, but it's
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cool looking. I really like it. And he is about to go after
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him again when this dude jumps in named Flower Sword Vista, and evidently Meehawk
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knows this dude and is impressed by his reputation. This guy is very large,
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and he fights with two swords. So they have a whole uh,
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you know, back and forth that lasts for pretty much the next two episodes
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until they find I only agree, like shit's going in a different direction.
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We're gonna have to wrap this up, and I'm gonna sort of jump ahead
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here because I'm over halfway through the time I have and I haven't even gotten
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through the first of these three episodes. But honestly, I think for a
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lot of this that's okay because talk about filler in the next couple of episodes.
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Next episode ends with white Beard getting stabbed, and this dude, fucking
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We start episode three with the longest slowpan along the face of every single character
32:43
and their reaction to white Beard getting stabbed. We see the reaction of anyone
32:50
who happened to be within twenty miles. It's so funny, Like you guys,
32:54
I was. I. I started the third episode and I got distracted.
33:02
I think there was like somebody delivering something at the door, and I
33:06
got up to leave. I saw that we were doing the very opening of
33:08
the react shots. I got up to leave and grab the thing from the
33:12
door and come back. And I was planning to jump back a minute or
33:16
two, and I came back and we were still doing that slow pan and
33:23
it lasted for like another minute and a half, and I was just sitting
33:28
here like I really thought I was gonna have to go back. I do
33:30
not think I have to go back. Nothing, nothing has happened. We're
33:34
just establishing that this thing. Oh my god, so let's see. Oh
33:42
I forgot about Mihawk because he's fighting with with what's his name? What is
33:49
his name? Flowers Flower Sword. Sorry, guys, I know that Florian
33:57
made me this thing, and I'm gonna open it because I have it my
34:00
like other bookmarks. But this dude, he's like fighting him, and Mihawk
34:07
is thinking to himself his power isn't in his strength. And I'm thinking that
34:14
he's talking about this sword fighter that he is currently obianced, like silly me,
34:20
thinking that Mihawk is focused on the fight in front of him. It
34:23
turns out he's actually thinking about Loofy and what he thinks to himself is his
34:30
power is to rally those around him. That he basically managed to escape Mihawk's
34:37
attacks because so many people were trying to help him out that it wound up
34:45
not mattering if like he was a better fighter, that's just that wasn't the
34:51
crux of the issue. So yeah, he says, of all the people
34:57
seeking to conquer the sea, he may possess the greatest talent of all.
35:04
And I really like that in particular because it seems like this is what we
35:10
already know about louviy, right, He just manages to inspire loyalty in people.
35:17
And it's a really tricky thing because like being able to inspire loyalty in
35:23
people is one of those like talents that is very based in a lot of
35:34
ways solely on your personality, And so what you can get into is a
35:39
sort of ticklish cult of personality situation where like, you know, you've got
35:46
somebody who, even though they mean well, if everybody just like does what
35:52
they say because they are the boss and they are so admired, it can
35:57
go very very badly. But I feel like Loofy inspires loyalty despite the fact
36:06
that a lot of people realize that he isn't like smarter than them. It's
36:10
his spirit rather than his intellect, which I feel like is almost a perfect
36:16
recipe because then you've got folks second guessing him and being willing to argue with
36:22
him in a way that if he were a different type, they might not
36:27
have the courage to say anything or disagree, you know. And I really
36:32
feel like keeping somebody from getting almost like too much sway over others starts to
36:40
become more and more difficult the more loyalty they have inspired from those around them.
36:45
And it's a really funny thing that can be like totally weaponized, Like
36:51
you know, celebrities, depending on the way that they try and approach this
36:55
sort of thing, absolutely out how to weaponize their fan bases. I don't
37:01
know how many of you have been in on the beef between Meg and the
37:06
Stallion And I was about to say Cardi b no Nicki Minaj, But Nicki
37:12
Minaj has these fans who are so defensive of her that they're out here like
37:19
boxing people who talk shit about her randoms on fucking TikTok, just sharing their
37:24
opinion, people who don't have any power or don't know anything. And her
37:30
fans are so psychotic about nobody getting to talk shit about their queen that they
37:38
go to these lengths that are just bizarre. And similarly, Taylor Swift has
37:45
this going on and When I talk about these two women, I'm saying it
37:50
because I feel like it's very purposeful what they're doing. Nicki Minaj knows that
37:52
her fans get like this, and I feel like she really encourages that she
37:58
is messy and very like tacky in the way that she approaches her beefs and
38:05
has no problem like getting absolute strangers to do some of her dirty work.
38:10
And Taylor Swift has done this very interesting thing with her fan base. She
38:14
has had a couple of like interactions with fans where she has made it seem
38:19
as if every fan is one step away from actually becoming her in real life
38:24
friend. There was a whole thing where there was like some fans that she
38:29
randomly selected to come to her house and she baked them cookies and they got
38:32
to listen to the new album like ahead of everybody, and it was a
38:37
sort of it was the sort of thing that like they weren't anybody, but
38:44
all of a sudden, they're getting to hang out with their idol. And
38:47
it really created this like idea in so many fans heads that she is so
38:53
grounded, She's like, oh, practically one of us, any of us
38:57
could be her friend and she would embrace us us And it's a really different
39:02
tactic than somebody like Beyonce, who her whole thing is aloofness. She isn't
39:08
friends with anybody, she isn't available in the like you don't see her getting
39:17
photographed by the paparazzi going out to Starbucks. She's not showing up to like
39:22
events like you know, Taylor going to these football games and stuff for her
39:27
boyfriend to support him. Beyonce isn't out in the world in this way,
39:30
and she isn't in gossip stuff, and she doesn't interact with fans on that
39:36
level. So for her, the cult of personality thing, which she very
39:39
much has going on as well, has a totally different feel to it because
39:44
she is like this almost like deity like figure, whereas Taylor's appeal is that
39:51
she isn't aloof that, she is very available and feels like a real person.
39:57
And I just think it's just interesting, you know, the way in
40:00
which who these people are, how they decide they're going to lead, and
40:07
then the types of people that follow them based on their own preferences and desires.
40:15
And so my personality as somebody who is hugely visual a perfectionist and really
40:27
loves like sort of aspirational shit. It makes so much sense if you step
40:31
back and look at it, that I am a Beyonce stan because the fact
40:36
that she doesn't interact in like a daily way allows me to project onto her
40:43
kind of anything I want, which is fantastic for my type of personality.
40:49
But a lot of people are not like that. I don't want to know
40:52
too much about the celebrities that I like. I want them to keep their
40:57
mouths shut and stay out of shit so that I can continue to enjoy them
41:01
without feeling like they're about to step on a landmine any second because they just
41:06
can't shut the fuck up. And I maintain that overall, a lot of
41:10
celebrities could learn a thing or two from Beyonce's. Her branding is so locked
41:16
down that it's a little extreme, probably for certain types of performers and stuff,
41:22
but overall, I think just letting your work speak for itself and not
41:27
engaging on social media and things as much is likely to serve you better if
41:35
you've become a big enough star. Anyway, I'm so sorry I got off
41:37
on this tangent you guys, but you know, just talking about loofy and
41:40
the way that he sort of operates, and it's not like he wants to
41:45
become King of the Pirates. It's not like he's not after this goal.
41:50
But I don't I don't think I stopped to really consider the fact that he
41:55
says I'm going to be King of the Pirates, and yet everybody that he
42:01
gathers along the way so far, you know how much they feel like family,
42:07
and how much he dedicates his own energy and resources to keeping them all
42:14
safe. I don't think I really thought about the fact that saying like my
42:19
goal is that I'll become King of the Pirates isn't totally fair. He is
42:22
saying like almost we are going to become kings of the Pirates, and like,
42:28
yeah, he'll be the guy in charge like on paper, but he
42:35
sees his friends as his equals in a lot of ways, and I feel
42:39
like he's really seeing this as I'm carrying you along for this ride, you
42:45
know, if this is about all of us. So anyway, sorry,
42:51
guys, I know that I digressed quite a lot there, but you know,
42:53
girls gotta do what she's got to do. So this is when we
43:01
go back to Buggy. I love these dudes continuing to encourage him, mister
43:06
three getting extremely like frustrated here, and then we have the narrator jumping in.
43:13
And the world has been rocked by one revelation after another. And it
43:19
all began with when more than two hundred inmates managed to escape from the iron
43:23
tight prison of impel Down, and the most notorious prisoners have now taken a
43:28
lead role in this epic battle. You guys, you know what I'm saying
43:34
about, Like the filler here, we know we're watching this, We see
43:38
what's We've been there for all of this. Why are we being told the
43:44
summary of everything we have already? We we it's only we saw this age.
43:50
It's still happening. It's literally in front of us. But anyway,
43:53
so the populace of the world has no choice but to helplessly observe and knowing
44:00
that the outcome will determine their very future. And I'm gonna be honest,
44:07
I get what he means in like the abstract because of what we have seen
44:15
of people having to evacuate. But there is a part of me that sort
44:22
of felt like, is this gonna affect their few? Like I was thinking
44:25
of it in terms of the Song of Ice and Fire aspect, where basically
44:31
the people in the know they say that the small folks don't care who's on
44:38
the throne. They don't give a shit. All they want is to live
44:44
in peace and have enough food and for their children to be born healthy and
44:50
grow old. And the person on the fucking throne is like largely immaterial to
44:55
them. And that's sort of how I felt here, which was like,
45:00
you know, I get that I'm supposed to think that this matters to these
45:02
people, but it just feels like it doesn't actually have much impact on them.
45:08
Really, I don't know how much of it will matter. So anyway,
45:15
this is when the like whole shift of things with the people viewing on
45:22
another island. They're on the what do you call it? Oh my god,
45:29
you guys, I forgot the name of the bubble island. But yeah,
45:34
it looks like these guys are going to kill Ace right here, right
45:39
now, And everybody is sort of like, wait, did they change up
45:44
the time already? Like what's going on? And Sengoku yells for them to
45:52
shut down all of the cameras and we must prevail, oh, like we're
45:59
going to stay up over the line, and it's too much for this naive
46:02
world to understand, let alone see which if you're saying you guys aren't gonna
46:14
understand it. So we're about to do something really fucked up and you can't
46:17
see it. This is the sort of thing that I want to believe everybody
46:22
would see through and be like, wow, if you turn the cameras off,
46:28
it must be pretty awful, And that in itself really like shows you
46:32
how bad this is about to be. But then I think about the fact
46:37
that we have like cops who literally say, oh, really, is that
46:44
how you want to act? Well, then I'll show you and then turn
46:47
their body cam off and that's all on tape, and then suspect turns up
46:54
half dead and everybody's like, wow, I wonder what happened wild, And
47:01
it's like we are incapable of connecting those two dots. So, you know,
47:07
every time that I start to be like this feels a little too obvious,
47:14
I have to stop and realize people just don't want to know stuff sometimes,
47:21
you know, So maybe this is actually pretty fucking accurate. So all
47:29
right, anyway, this it turns out that the uh, the plan here
47:36
had been We're going to pretend that we're accelerating the timing of aces execution so
47:44
that we can lure all of these pirates into the bay and then close it
47:51
off so that they are all trapped in here and we'll be able to surround
47:58
them and take them down from the inside. And it didn't go the way
48:06
that they planned. They're attempting to continue with what they like their original plan
48:13
anyway, with creating these walls, but it's like the setup for it all
48:21
isn't what they had they had promised. What is the name? I'm so
48:27
sorry of the character with the bangs who shows up at the end of episode,
48:35
is it too? But they're the one who's basically like yelling, this
48:39
was not what you guys said the situation was going to be. We were
48:44
supposed to be able to pick them off like fish in a barrel and they're
48:47
all spread out all over the place. What the fuck? And at this
48:53
point to sort of help contain them, we have brought out all of the
49:00
Kuma's Kuma as an android guys, and there being so many of him is
49:07
so bizarre, Like I just didn't realize what they were prepping us for when
49:14
we saw Android Kuma turn up for the first time. I don't know if
49:17
you call him cyborg? Is it cyborg? I feel like it must be
49:22
cyborg because that's like a combination of human flesh and robotics, right, Saba
49:30
Odi is the name of the bubble Island. Thank you, David, and
49:34
Florian's reminding me their name is sant Tomorrow Is Sin Tomorrow man or a woman?
49:39
I feel like it. I thought it was a woman, and I'm
49:44
realizing maybe not. Not that I matters, I guess, but I was
49:47
just curious. So I'm gonna sort of I have to speed things up here.
49:55
I'm so sorry everybody, I've just gotten There's like a lot of interesting
49:59
stuff going on, ssidering how drawn out a lot of it is. But
50:02
let's deal with like the primary issue here, which is all of these Kumas
50:08
who are absolutely laying waste to these other pirates. Like they are coming up
50:15
against these Kumas over and over again with bazookas, giant maces, really thinking
50:22
they're doing something, and the smoke clears, and that Kuma Bah is just
50:25
standing there like nothing happened, completely unmoved and you know, knowing what they're
50:32
capable of, the fact that they have so many it just seems like such
50:36
an unfair advantage. I don't know how they stand against these dudes. But
50:40
then we have the moment at the end of this episode which is really like
50:47
sort of the most important part, which is when this guy his name is
50:53
Squard, I think he is talking to white Beard about how much he and
51:05
his men all owe him and how you know, we're here to lay down
51:09
our lives and it's a privilege to do so. And I was sort of
51:15
wondering what was going on because the vibe of this guy fell off to me,
51:22
and it was like he was supposed to be sort of almost you know,
51:27
declaring he's fealty, but the way that he was coming closer and closer
51:31
to white Beard as he's talking, I was like, I don't really like
51:36
this. What's happening here? And eventually he does a sneak attack and he
51:44
says, I know you're a man who would do anything for his family,
51:49
but the problem is we're not your family, and he stabs white Beard in
51:54
the chest and we find out at the start of the next episode that he
52:02
was told white Beard made a deal where if he brought this war against the
52:12
marines, they would be attacking all the pirates except white Beard's own crew.
52:22
Basically, you brought in all of these allies as distractions to do your dirty
52:29
work because you knew it would keep your guys safe, which, like if
52:32
he had thought about it for two seconds, doesn't make any sense any at
52:38
all. There was like a moment where I stopped and I was like,
52:42
wait, did he like oh? But then you jump to the scene where
52:46
he's being told this by a marine, and I'm like, yeah, why
52:54
do you believe him? Like I wanted there to be more of an explanation
53:00
as to why he thought that this information was something that he could trust.
53:06
And I don't know. I don't know if there's supposed to be like sort
53:10
of subtext that he knows the sky from somewhere else that would feel like we
53:15
have a previous relationship and that would explain it. But uh, yeah,
53:20
this dude has been played Like I was gonna say a violin, but I
53:28
forgot what show it is. They say, like, actually, a violin
53:30
is very difficult to play. I played you more like the kazoo, like
53:34
a cheap kazoo. That's what this feels like. He really thought he was
53:40
doing something and I'm like, has it not occurred to you? That's just
53:45
telling you this little fib and getting you to do the whole thing is a
53:50
stroke like that. They can just stand back and let happen. You're delivering
53:55
this dude on a plate like an asshole. Whoh. Meanwhile, as he
54:02
is as this whole thing is happening, and we get the slow pan amongst
54:07
everybody as they realize that he has been stabbed. Uh we have then the
54:15
you guys the way that this uh thing with Buggy shakes out. It's so
54:23
weird because he they have taken over the cameras and they're trying to do like
54:32
a propaganda thing where they're showing how like badass Buggy is, but they're doing
54:40
more than one take even though it's live, so like Buggy keeps fucking up.
54:46
At one point, he has a nosebleed for some reason, and they
54:52
just go back and have him like say the lines again and meanwhile saying,
54:58
Goku's freaking out like what the fuck? I told you guys to turn the
55:00
cameras off? What is this? And everybody back on Saba Odi is like,
55:07
uh, why why are they showing us this we're gonna miss the execution.
55:14
What is going on? This is not interesting, and I think that
55:20
that is very funny. This whole bit. It reminds me of trying to
55:25
record like a campaign video for like a local office and how awkward it is.
55:32
But everybody gets to see the awkwardness. There's no cutting and editing first
55:37
to make it at least feel a little bit more put together. Oh that,
55:43
thank you, Florian. I had forgotten this aspect, and you're right,
55:45
Florian says, I think part of with Squord is his hate for Roger,
55:50
and white Beard did not tell them that Ace is the son of Roger.
55:53
Thank you for reminding me of that, because I totally forgot about that
55:55
aspect of it. But yeah, that's how this guy sort of feeds into
56:00
is to just be like this, because I think the thing is that Roger
56:04
like burned this guy's ships and killed his men, and so he has a
56:08
grudge against him. And conveniently white Beard left out of his story with like
56:17
come and help me rescue my guy that it was the son of this dude's
56:22
enemy, and so the guy is feeling a way about that as well,
56:28
which, uh, that's fair, you know, because he didn't know what
56:31
he was doing keeping the ashes secret. But wow, you got played so
56:37
hard. It's just embarrassing, so embarrassing. And there's a point at which,
56:46
as he realizes that he has been played, he says, it's a
56:51
miracle I was even able to stab you, and now it's your turn kill
56:57
me. And he just stays and polds his arms out and it's just like,
57:02
all right, go for it. And for his part, white Beard
57:08
is like, you are a fucking dope. I can't believe you fell for
57:15
that. It's truly tragic that you don't have more brains. But also I
57:22
forgive you in an almost like sweet moment where this guy was not ready to
57:30
be forgiven. You know, this dude just like got him right in the
57:37
gut. I was sort of thinking at first that when he got him,
57:40
we don't see any blood, and so there was a moment where I thought,
57:45
maybe it didn't hurt him the way it would hurt anybody else, because
57:49
there's not bleeding, and so it indicates that there's some kind of like other
57:53
power going on here, and for all I know, that may still be
57:58
true. But I will say that Arco, who is like Whitebeard's right hand
58:02
guy. As of this moment, he is really really pissed at Squard.
58:10
I can't say his name without wanting to kickle you guys, It's so it
58:15
just feels like I'm not saying a real word, like I'm just using a
58:20
sound from when I forget a name anyway. But yeah, he's like acting
58:28
as if this was a mortal wound. And it might just be because it's
58:30
the level of betrayal and not the wound itself, but uh, yeah,
58:36
it's it's the vibe here of like white Beard. He is holding his hand
58:45
over the wound, but it's not really like he's bleeding from another spot up
58:52
near his mouth, I guess, like getting punched in the face or something,
58:55
and there's a little blood coming out from under his hand. But considering
59:00
that this is a gut wound, you would really expect it to be a
59:02
lot worse. So I'm thinking, maybe maybe this is not what it looks
59:10
like. However, he you know, regardless of whether it's a mortal wound
59:19
or as bad as it looks, it's certainly gonna be a problem for him
59:23
to be injured. He acknowledges like, you don't even know what you've done.
59:28
You fucked up so bad. So let's see. I'm just trying to
59:34
to jump ahead a little bit here because the speech about uh, everybody being
59:42
a part of his family is sort of punctuated by white Beard managing to destroy
59:49
the ice wall, and I don't know how he did that. We still
59:53
don't really know what his power is, right like, not fully he started
1:00:01
the what do you call it, the tidle wave, so I'm assuming he
1:00:07
managed to break it via some sort of like earthquake ability because we've seen that
1:00:14
before. But uh, yeah, that wall had been gonna be everybody's downfall
1:00:20
how they were penned in, and it looks like he's just really solved that
1:00:23
problem in one shot. I fucking love everybody yelling about like they thought that
1:00:30
they they all believed what Squard said at first, and as they realized that
1:00:37
he got tricked, Squard is just up there crying, and everybody around white
1:00:43
Beard is just like, hey, can you forgive us for thinking the worst
1:00:45
of you? Because you know, sorry, we're still on your side,
1:00:53
so we have. Like the last thing that he says is basically, I
1:01:01
am not gonna live forever. I need somebody to like step into my shoes,
1:01:07
and if I can save this guy's life, I'll be able to retire.
1:01:13
And you know, everybody helped me with this, like one mission,
1:01:19
my last thing that I'm trying to do before I give it, like call
1:01:23
it a rap on my career in this and then he leaps forward off the
1:01:30
front of his ship and that's you know, that's the last moment of the
1:01:37
episode. So this is I'm really curious because like we have only seen a
1:01:45
tiny bit of what he can do. But Sengku calls him the strongest pirate
1:01:52
in the world. And if he's saying that, I feel like that means
1:01:55
something. You know. Oh, Floria's is the tremor tremor fruit. It's
1:02:00
been said before. Okay, I didn't remember that. Sorry, guys,
1:02:07
tremor tremor fruit. That's a good name, some of the fruit names I'm
1:02:09
always I'm like, really, but I like that one. That one's cool.
1:02:15
Uh, And yeah, where are you gonna try and make these walls?
1:02:19
If you've got a guy who can do that, it feels like you're
1:02:22
really just kind of wasting your time and everybody's time. But uh, it's
1:02:28
not my business, I guess. So these were fun. I really liked
1:02:31
these three episodes and looking forward to seeing where we're going here. Also,
1:02:37
are we getting a check in with any of our other people at any point
1:02:42
or are we just going through this arc straight up without you know it,
1:02:45
like the way that we did with Impelled Down. I think it's going to
1:02:50
be more like that, which it's interesting. I'm assuming that the reasoning behind
1:02:53
this was because nobody but Loofy is of an adequate fighting level to be and
1:03:00
amongst this particular crowd and make it, but maybe not. Maybe there was
1:03:05
a whole other plan going on. So all right, I gotta wrap up.
1:03:08
Thank you guys again, Thank you Florian for commissioning this, and Dave
1:03:13
and Florian for coming to the chat, and all of you for listening,
1:03:15
And until next time to BLEU motherfuckers. That was an Unspoiled Network podcast