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Jeff Legwold joins Kreckman and Lindahl 8-7-26 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeff Legwalld time here attorney camp coverage brought to
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  Speaker 1: the injuries are mounting right now. Uh today Marvin Mims,
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  Speaker 1: Nate Atkins, and Matt Henningson left the field with injuries.
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  Speaker 1: Is Taysom Hill able to play all three of those
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  Speaker 1: different positions?
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  Speaker 2: Roll if yas Sean Payton probably say yes, but uh no,
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  Speaker 2: it was a brutal leak when you think about it
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  Speaker 2: for a team that has had rare injury good fortune
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  Speaker 2: over the last two seasons, especially Uh, this was a
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  Speaker 2: particularly tough week. I mean Benito model.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Then today you know the three guys including Men's and
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  Speaker 2: Mens's Uh, you know, Wattles already a minimum of a
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  Speaker 2: week out probably and you know if men Is, he
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  Speaker 2: was hopping as if it was a a muscle type injury.
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  Speaker 2: So you know that's gonna be one to watch as
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  Speaker 2: they evaluated today and tomorrow morning. So and Henningson's I
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  Speaker 2: feel awful, you know for him that that was hard
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  Speaker 2: to watch given how Hardy's work to come back, and
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  Speaker 2: it was all it's a year to the day, I
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  Speaker 2: think from when he was injured at the joint practice
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  Speaker 2: with the Niners last year. So, you know, it's one
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  Speaker 2: thing after all these years of covering the league I
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  Speaker 2: just can't get used to, is is watching guys who
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  Speaker 2: have worked so hard to come back suffer something like that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, again before they even get to play in
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  Speaker 2: any games or anything. So, uh, you know that it
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  Speaker 2: will be a surprise if that's not a very serious
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  Speaker 2: uh you know, potentially season under there given his reaction
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  Speaker 2: to it.
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  Speaker 3: So what did you think of the proceeding? Sean left
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  Speaker 3: about halfway through practice, as he told us he would,
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  Speaker 3: no surprise there, he said, he was off to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: do the thing in Canton. Obviously, Drew Brees talked about
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  Speaker 3: him in the Hall of Fame game. What was that
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  Speaker 3: last night? Feels like that was three days ago, but
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  Speaker 3: that's training camp for him, so we knew he'd be leaving.
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  Speaker 3: How'd you think things went after he left? Did you
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  Speaker 3: notice anything different to the pace or not really at all?
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  Speaker 3: He kind of I know he left instructions. Just what
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  Speaker 3: were your thoughts, especially in the two minutdrill at the end.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that had a nice to minute drill
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  Speaker 2: at the end, you know, mix it a nice ball
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  Speaker 2: to Sutton and then I think to anger him to
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  Speaker 2: finish it out. So I think overall, even when Sean
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  Speaker 2: was there, you can tell this was sort of me
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  Speaker 2: practice deep and in the one week where they really
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  Speaker 2: had to go at it six days and then you
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  Speaker 2: know tomorrow is you know, back in the old day,
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  Speaker 2: a foam blowing scrimmage. It's going to be a sort
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  Speaker 2: of a control scrimmage tomorrow. But they had that seal
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  Speaker 2: of the day before something, so yeah, tempo was the
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  Speaker 2: tempo was good, but just the noise and the energy
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  Speaker 2: you could tell they were they were fighting through it
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  Speaker 2: today and you know a little bit to be expected.
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  Speaker 2: And then some of the energy guys, you know, Malcolm
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  Speaker 2: Roach and DJ DJ Jones had the day off so
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  Speaker 2: they were already out of the mix. So you could
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  Speaker 2: tell some of the energy guys were missing today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it really was it kind of it was interesting, Jeff,
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  Speaker 1: and and you know, it kind of sounds like you
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  Speaker 1: viewed it the same way. I thought it was a
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  Speaker 1: very uneven practice out of the Broncos today, and then
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  Speaker 1: that two minute drill kind of came out of nowhere,
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  Speaker 1: And I would like to think particularly for the guys
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  Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball, not the defense
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  Speaker 1: because they lost, but for the guys on offense. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that was really really crisp. You mentioned the twenty seven
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  Speaker 1: yonder is something the fade to angrim on the touchdown
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  Speaker 1: you hit a little Jordan Humphrey and Pat Brian I
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  Speaker 1: believe on on that series as well. What is it
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  Speaker 1: about that two minute situation where bo Nicks is just
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  Speaker 1: a different football player?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I've always contended through the years that
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  Speaker 2: this can happen. You know, Steve McNair was a guy
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  Speaker 2: who is sort of the same way in that the
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  Speaker 2: menu gets a lot more condensed. So the quarterbacks choices
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  Speaker 2: are very definitive, and there's not a lot of you know,
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  Speaker 2: hemming and hawn about what are you gonna call here?
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  Speaker 2: You're just going right to the menu as a play
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  Speaker 2: caller and as a as a quarterback, and the checks
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  Speaker 2: are very defined, and what you would get in and
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  Speaker 2: out of are very defined. It's all there's not much nebulous,
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  Speaker 2: So at least the team that's good in the two
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  Speaker 2: minutes throw it's not as nebulous as you know, they're
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  Speaker 2: just isn't nearly as much on the call sheet that's
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  Speaker 2: in play. So I think that's why he flourishes, is
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  Speaker 2: just he knows exactly what he's going to get off
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  Speaker 2: the play sheet. And you know, frankly, some guys just
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  Speaker 2: like that pace. You know, let's go, go go, And
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  Speaker 2: I think, you know, son of a coach, Bo Nicks
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  Speaker 2: was very comfortable at that pace.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Jeff, what are you seeing at You know,
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  Speaker 3: I want to ask you a sneaky question. So I'm
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  Speaker 3: trying to figure out a way to do this. You
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  Speaker 3: feel like you've seen some good competition at the outside linebacker,
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  Speaker 3: and no matter whatever the legal situation is going on,
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  Speaker 3: there might be a competition for that starting job outside,
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  Speaker 3: whether Cooper's clear or not.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean I I you know, I said,
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  Speaker 2: I think the team saw it. You know, even before
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  Speaker 2: any of this happened, the Broncos are already thinking Jonah
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  Speaker 2: Ellis is going to get more snaps a outside line
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  Speaker 2: because he was doing so well. They just scrapped the
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  Speaker 2: plan of him taking snats an inside linebacker to cover
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  Speaker 2: for green Laws departure and all the rest of it
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  Speaker 2: that they were thinking. They then through that plan in
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  Speaker 2: the dumper when they watched what Elis was doing. So
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  Speaker 2: it isn't a shock to me that he's having such
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  Speaker 2: a good tamp because they had already seen glimpses of
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  Speaker 2: it when they were just in the ota section of this.
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  Speaker 2: So that ton of Allis is gonna play more and
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  Speaker 2: every day. You see why. I mean, he's he's an
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  Speaker 2: impactful guy. And you know, I know I talked it's
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  Speaker 2: inside linebacker and not outside line but I know I
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  Speaker 2: talk to you guys about Red Murdoch a few days ago,
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  Speaker 2: and all he does is just get noticed a little
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  Speaker 2: more every day. So I think he's making a big
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  Speaker 2: push to be that third or fourth inside guy when
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  Speaker 2: it's all said and done in there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Forced fumbled today for big number fifty, Red Murdoch
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  Speaker 1: going up against a keen butler in seven on seven.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, he makes the impacts and that's exactly what
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos are looking for out of him. Jeff Lakewild
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  Speaker 1: is brought to you by the International Brotherhood of Electrical
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  Speaker 1: Workers ib W Local sixty eight. You start with a
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  Speaker 1: job and you end with a career, Jeff one pretty
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  Speaker 1: interesting rep. I thought today with both Dobbins and Harvey
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  Speaker 1: lined up in the backfield formationally without getting an angry
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  Speaker 1: phone call from the Broncos. What are the things that
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  Speaker 1: you have seen or noticed? Are there any evolutions and
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  Speaker 1: what the Broncos are doing in terms of formations and
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  Speaker 1: personnel groupings that have maybe popped for you a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I will say that they've shown that, you know
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  Speaker 2: yet my informal charting. You know, they've shown that a
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  Speaker 2: few times in this camp, and I think it is
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  Speaker 2: one to sort of the dams Web endorsed wrinkles. They've
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  Speaker 2: had it in the playbook already. I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: make it sound like they're drawing a new play yet,
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  Speaker 2: but it was in there, but he has pushed it
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  Speaker 2: to the forefront a little bit. I've seen it multiple
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  Speaker 2: times and team drills this year, and I think he
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  Speaker 2: I've seen more tweets. Again, I don't get to see
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the I see some of the lockthroughs,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't see them all, and I know a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the tweet the real big tweaks are are
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  Speaker 2: happening in those other walkthroughs. But a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: changes that I've seen with my own eyes so far
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  Speaker 2: are in the run game. So I think Webb's impact
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  Speaker 2: on being the play caller and sort of getting a
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  Speaker 2: bigger voice and what they're gonna practice, what they're gonna
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  Speaker 2: rep I think is showing up in the run game
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  Speaker 2: more right now. And it's tough to evaluate that because
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  Speaker 2: the defense has dominated those periods because they're a really
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  Speaker 2: good defense. So, you know, I think the preseason game
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  Speaker 2: in Atlanta is gonna offer a little more about where
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  Speaker 2: things really are on offense, because I don't I don't
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  Speaker 2: think fans should think they're getting a good gage when
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  Speaker 2: they leave practice because, uh, they're facing one of the
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  Speaker 2: best defenses in the league and they came to camp
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  Speaker 2: ready to go.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Uh, we've got what's being called a scrimmage tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: And in modern NFL parlance, what should we expect coming
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  Speaker 3: up here, Jeff? Because again it's not are we gonna
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  Speaker 3: see like you know, I say, go live, not bring
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  Speaker 3: guys to the ground, but will this be actual? I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna call MIO, You're gonna call your dean. Either side
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  Speaker 3: knows what's coming or what's gonna happen to mar Do
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  Speaker 3: you think.
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  Speaker 2: Well controlled stimmage is you know, everybody knows what periods
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna be and like this is we're gonna do
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  Speaker 2: two drives or two possessions, uh and and people are
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  Speaker 2: sort of familiar with what's available. It will be more
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  Speaker 2: game like than they've done so far. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: some of the eleven on eleven's they've done have been
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  Speaker 2: good game situational things, but this will resemble more of
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  Speaker 2: a game than they've done so in the past. It
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  Speaker 2: will not be a scrimmage is some days of old,
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  Speaker 2: so I don't think people should come expecting that. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, I when I covered the Steelers in the
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  Speaker 2: early nineties, it's hard to believe they did this now,
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  Speaker 2: but they would scrimmage the Bills in Eerie, Pennsylvania, and
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  Speaker 2: it was like a game. Yeah, like like in the
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  Speaker 2: third week of camp. So, I mean it was It's
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  Speaker 2: crazy what they did then compared to to now. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure it helped them along the way doing
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  Speaker 2: it that way back then, but because I'm not sure
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  Speaker 2: guys were ready for that kind of stuff. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I used to know for the Steelers bill scrimmage and
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  Speaker 2: Eerie and watch them go at it at the high school.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, won't exactly look like that tomorrow with the Broncos,
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  Speaker 1: but we're looking for some intensity. And then a week
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  Speaker 1: from today Jeff preseason opener on the road at Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: Knowing the way that Sean Payton likes to conduct his preseason,
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  Speaker 1: knowing that the Broncos do have some nagging injuries right now,
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  Speaker 1: and knowing the continuity with this roster, what kind of
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  Speaker 1: right now is your sense of how Sean plans to
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  Speaker 1: attack this first preseason game.
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  Speaker 2: I think if you're a healthy starter, you have to
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  Speaker 2: play some snaps. You know how many snaps that is?
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  Speaker 2: I think will very at your experience level, you know
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  Speaker 2: all of those things, you know. I think some linemen
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  Speaker 2: will play more than than Glintsey does you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean? I think, But in this perfect world, starters
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  Speaker 2: will place some in the first quarter and then they'll
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  Speaker 2: go from there. I think the teams will still get
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  Speaker 2: the bulk of the work. That'll be the group they're
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  Speaker 2: really targeting. Ours will go in the first quarter. And
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  Speaker 2: if you know, especially in the offense, if the outfense
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  Speaker 2: puts together a really good possession, are two good early possessions,
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  Speaker 2: that'll be bad and they'll get most of those guys
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  Speaker 2: out of there.
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  Speaker 3: All right, I got a couple for you, and they're
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  Speaker 3: both Hall of Fame related, if you can believe it, Jeff, So, first,
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  Speaker 3: I want to start with something from your very own
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  Speaker 3: publication on your very own website. ESPN's everybody that could
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  Speaker 3: be in the Hall of Fame list And when they
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  Speaker 3: go to the Broncos and I don't know if you
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  Speaker 3: contributed to this or not, they keep it up. They
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  Speaker 3: don't have anybody on the team that's already in, but
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  Speaker 3: they said keep it up. Nick, Benito, Quinn Miners and
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  Speaker 3: Pats er Tan. We don't even to talk about Pats
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  Speaker 3: or Tan. What do you think of the shot for
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  Speaker 3: the other two at the Hall?
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  Speaker 2: Ultimately, well, I think in the current guidelines, the way
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  Speaker 2: the loading is now, there are probably way too many,
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  Speaker 2: you know, going in guys on the list because it's
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  Speaker 2: it's very restrictive now. It's gonna be very difficult for
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  Speaker 2: that number of people to make it if they don't
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  Speaker 2: tweak the voting. But of this group, the players who
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  Speaker 2: had the profile, you know, when you're looking at a
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  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame profile and a guy who hasn't been
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  Speaker 2: in the league ten years, you're looking for all pros
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  Speaker 2: you know, year end honors, Defensive Player of the Year,
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  Speaker 2: Offensive Player of the Year, you know, for MVP, and
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  Speaker 2: again until they reached ten years, it's really hard to
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  Speaker 2: say all this guy's going in and the Broncos really
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  Speaker 2: don't have that bowls would fit the category. But his
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  Speaker 2: early portion of his career was such a fight. As
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  Speaker 2: he developed, you know, he made himself into what he
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  Speaker 2: is right now. If he had had this arc, you know,
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  Speaker 2: this level of play his first four years of his career,
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  Speaker 2: I think both would be the guy you know headed in,
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  Speaker 2: you know, headed that way because he'd have the years
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  Speaker 2: built in. But if Sirtaan's stacking the next four seasons
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  Speaker 2: the way he has, you know, the current ones, then
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  Speaker 2: he's definitely got the profile. And Minuts is a guard,
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  Speaker 2: and it's really hard for guards, but he has the
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  Speaker 2: all pro framework and he has the profile right now.
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  Speaker 2: If the profile is the same when he's in year nine,
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  Speaker 2: year ten, year eleven, all right.
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  Speaker 3: Then I got to ask you one quick one about
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  Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame last night, because I know Carson
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  Speaker 3: Beck went out there and got everybody all big fired
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  Speaker 3: up and did his thing. Do you warn anybody about
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  Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame game.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that.
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  Speaker 3: I remember when I covered that when we were with
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  Speaker 3: Mike sheen hand and again with Vic vanje I didn't
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  Speaker 3: feel like there's a ton of prep going into that one.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have to be leary of the All Star
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  Speaker 3: performance in the Hall of Fame game?
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  Speaker 2: I think that's why they're, you know, trade touchdowns at
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  Speaker 2: one point, just because you know, you're just wheeling and dealing.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they've probably repped some of the game stuff
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  Speaker 2: just the day before, you know, and that's it, and
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  Speaker 2: you're just going off athleticism and your talent level does
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  Speaker 2: tell me those teams probably have an equal talent level
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  Speaker 2: in terms of personnel in some areas. I was intrigued
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  Speaker 2: by Haines Kane because I was intrigued by him before
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  Speaker 2: the draft. He's just got a real, you know, kind
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  Speaker 2: of survivor mentality when he plays, and I was always
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  Speaker 2: curious if someone was gonna appreciate that and give him
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  Speaker 2: a chance at some point because he played in an
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  Speaker 2: odd offense. If you're an NFL personnel guy and you're
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  Speaker 2: trying to evaluate guys for NFL careers, So that was
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  Speaker 2: the player that intrigued me watching last night was seeing
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  Speaker 2: him do his thing.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing that I was very amused by this
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  Speaker 1: week really quickly, Jeff, speaking of the Hall of Fame,
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  Speaker 1: was you having to tell Sean Payton what his itinerary
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  Speaker 1: was for the weekend because he really didn't know, but
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  Speaker 1: you know everything about the Hall of Fame. I was
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  Speaker 1: tickled by that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, I'm there to help. I'm a helper. Everybody
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  Speaker 2: knows I'm a helper out there.
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  Speaker 3: You are a helper.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got the you got the Gold Jacket Dinner
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  Speaker 1: on Friday night, Sean. Yeah, got to move that flight up,
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  Speaker 1: pal Yeah, exactly, you gotta. You got a meal to
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  Speaker 1: get there.
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  Speaker 2: They were gonna ask to hustle to make it today
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  Speaker 2: because the Gold Jacket Dinner might that might be the
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  Speaker 2: best event of the whole weekend really in terms of
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  Speaker 2: crazy enthusiasm and just kind of the bigness on the moment.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's the that's the that's tonight. They do
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  Speaker 2: it in the arena in downtown Canton. Everybody comes out
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  Speaker 2: like it's the Oscars. It's an amazing event in Canton
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  Speaker 2: because it is the event of the year. And if
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  Speaker 2: you live in Canton and you get tickets to that
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  Speaker 2: it's like a huge thing. And it's really really cool
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  Speaker 2: because they in the past would have the Entrinese walk
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  Speaker 2: a stage or a runway that was the length of
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  Speaker 2: the arena and people go crazy cheering the whole time,
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  Speaker 2: and then at the end of the walk, your presenter
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  Speaker 2: would put the gold jacket on you. And it's just
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  Speaker 2: really cool. And I've had I've had twenty thirty Hall
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  Speaker 2: of Famers through the years tell me that that's when
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  Speaker 2: it really hit them that they were Hall of Famers?
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  Speaker 3: Now is that the one in there at dinner too,
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  Speaker 3: We're just just the Hall of Famers are at.
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  Speaker 2: That's a luncheon, yea they call it. They call it
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  Speaker 2: the Nichty Luncheon. And it's only Hall of Famers, a
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  Speaker 2: couple of people from the Hall of Fame. And it
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  Speaker 2: used to be selectors could go, so I've been to
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  Speaker 2: a few, but they don't. They don't. The selectors don't
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  Speaker 2: go anymore either. But and it's basically the new class
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  Speaker 2: of Hall of Famers is not allowed to speak, and
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  Speaker 2: it's just the hall the current Hall of Famers standing
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  Speaker 2: up and telling them what it means. So like the
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  Speaker 2: one I went to, I'm a kid from Chicago, and
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  Speaker 2: I was sitting at the at the table before the
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  Speaker 2: lunch in my seat and I hear somebody ask me
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  Speaker 2: can I sit here? And I looked up and it
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  Speaker 2: was Dick Buckus. So that was pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: A line eye legend for you right there, Another a
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