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Alex Cora's year off, O's mascot gets AXED, Mets double down on data & Rockies raise ticket prices?! · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: That's what she said.
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  Speaker 2: It is time for That's What He Said, presented by
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  Speaker 2: Lorraine Coe. This is interesting. And talk about just having
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  Speaker 2: the pool or the cachet. Alex Cora, guys, said he's
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: taking 2027 off. I mean, that's certainly a choice. Oftentimes,
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  Speaker 2: if you take yourself away from the game, you don't
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  Speaker 2: necessarily have the opportunity to come back to the game.
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  Speaker 2: So twofold question here, AJ. Are you surprised by this?
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  Speaker 2: And then furthermore, where do the Phillies go in terms
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  Speaker 2: of their managerial vacancy?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a question for Kratz. But as
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  Speaker 1: soon as I saw this, I text AC and I said,
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: that Safari You Have book must be really important. Because remember,
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  Speaker 1: they said he didn't want to, you know, Jim Bowden
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  Speaker 1: on our show said that he has a Safari book
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  Speaker 1: to his family next summer and he might not want
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  Speaker 1: to manage because of that. He just laughed and said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm in a good spot with everything. I'm healthy. I'm happy.
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  Speaker 1: And I love what I'm doing with my family. And
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  Speaker 1: he said, listen, what else do you want? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: here's the thing. He's still getting paid by the Red Sox.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like he's sitting at home with no money
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  Speaker 1: coming in. He's still getting paid a lot of money
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  Speaker 1: by the Red Sox. So, hey, if he's home, he's happy,
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  Speaker 1: and his name is still being talked about as a manager,
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  Speaker 1: take the year off, Alex. If that's what you want
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  Speaker 1: to do, take the year off because you know what?
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  Speaker 1: As soon as he makes calls and he knows enough
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  Speaker 1: people or he makes calls and he says, hey, I'm
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  Speaker 1: interested in getting back in it, his phone will be
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  Speaker 1: ringing off the hook. So good for you, Alex. Good
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  Speaker 1: for you, man. Enjoy that safari. Enjoy it. your trips
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  Speaker 1: you have planned with your family, because you know what?
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  Speaker 1: That goes away. They get older. My kids are in college.
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  Speaker 1: I don't get that time anymore. I don't get to,
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  Speaker 1: I get to go on trips, but it's not as
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  Speaker 1: long and it's different than when they're young. So enjoy
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  Speaker 1: the time, Alex. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I've always told guys that like they're in free agency
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  Speaker 3: getting to the end of their career. And they're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I live in, I live in Milwaukee and the Brewers
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  Speaker 3: offered me a contract, so I think I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: go there.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's going to be tough.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be tough to go play anywhere else
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  Speaker 3: next year. No, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: That's not how it's going to be.
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  Speaker 3: Once you play at home or for Alex Cora, once
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  Speaker 3: you're at home, you're like, I kind of like this. Hey, Dad,
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  Speaker 3: we're planning something for next summer too. I'm in for that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm still getting paid by the Red Sox. The awkward
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  Speaker 3: part here is did Dombrowski let Mattingly go because– he
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  Speaker 3: knew Cora was going to take the job, hoped he
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  Speaker 3: would take the job, or does he call Don back
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  Speaker 3: and say, can you give us another year?
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  Speaker 1: Where do they go?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Wherever they go.
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  Speaker 2: Can you do that?
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  Speaker 1: That would look terrible.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they already did it once.
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  Speaker 3: They already did it once. Dombrowski offered Cora the job,
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  Speaker 3: and then he's like, no, I don't want the job. Hey, Don,
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  Speaker 3: would you like it? Like, come on. Like, you can't say– Well, yeah,
• 3:02
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take this girl to prom. Well, she
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  Speaker 3: doesn't want to go with me. Okay, well, I'll go
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  Speaker 3: with you then. To me, I think the Phillies, ultimately,
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  Speaker 3: they need a manager like that. Look at who they've had.
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  Speaker 3: They've had Joe Girardi. They got rid of him. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: he was a little bit too heavy-handed. Topper, very easy
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  Speaker 3: players manager. I think Don's the same way. They've had
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  Speaker 3: good regular seasons. Now, Kapler, that was a terrible realm
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  Speaker 3: for the Phillies. He was never a good manager. He's
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  Speaker 3: good at a few things that he does in life,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't think the managing was one of them.
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  Speaker 3: But my thing is they can't just fill the role.
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  Speaker 3: They can't do a Kurt Suzuki one-year deal. So Dombrowski
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  Speaker 3: has to go to the well for a guy that
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  Speaker 3: they're not going to change the roster. I don't care
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  Speaker 3: what Ruben Amaro says. They're not getting rid of They
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  Speaker 3: may move Turner to the center field. They may do–
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  Speaker 3: Baum won't be back, so they need a new left side.
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  Speaker 4: Of the infield.
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  Speaker 3: But they need a manager who does what Dave Roberts
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  Speaker 3: does in L.A. He was analytical. He wasn't willing to
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  Speaker 3: make those decisions. Now they need a manager that says,
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  Speaker 3: this isn't working right now. We're going to push this.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to push this. Whatever it is for the Phillies,
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  Speaker 3: whatever they decide they need to improve on to win
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  Speaker 3: the World Series with this window that is closing– That's
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  Speaker 3: the manager they need to bring in, since it's not Cora.
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  Speaker 2: All right, two managerial openings right now, the Phillies and
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  Speaker 2: the Mariners, who fired Wilson after the season. Let's hear
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  Speaker 2: from Walker Montfort, the president of the Colorado Rockies, addressing
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  Speaker 2: the 12% season ticket price increase, guys, amidst another 100-loss season.
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  Speaker 2: Take a listen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's never fun, and there's never a
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  Speaker 1: right time, right?
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  Speaker 4: I guess if you go out and win the World Series,
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  Speaker 4: maybe 12% is okay. But in the end, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: over the past, as you mentioned, three, four years, it's
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  Speaker 4: been difficult baseball. And even prior to that, I think we,
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  Speaker 4: for the most part, kept our season tickets flat, while
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  Speaker 4: others were increasing at, I.
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  Speaker 1: Think it's like a 4.5% rate on average in MLB.
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  Speaker 1: So we didn't increase over that period of time. We
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  Speaker 1: met internally.
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  Speaker 4: Probably three or four months ago about what our plan was.
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  Speaker 1: And ultimately, it's about.
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  Speaker 4: Bridging the gap between where the Rockies are at from
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  Speaker 4: a revenue perspective to.
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  Speaker 1: you know closer.
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  Speaker 4: To the average or even the average of our mid-market
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  Speaker 4: peers and obviously our season ticket holders are tremendously important
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  Speaker 4: to us it's it's definitely not something that it's not
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  Speaker 4: like we don't think about that but really we believe
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  Speaker 4: in where we're going and obviously coming off of another
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  Speaker 4: hunter last season that's you know it's not easy to
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  Speaker 4: justify but even when we actually sent out that notification,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we were trending towards, I think, 66, 67
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  Speaker 4: wins at that time. So, you know, in the end,
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  Speaker 4: we want people to be part of this with us.
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  Speaker 4: We appreciate and value their support. But, you know, as
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  Speaker 4: it comes down to it, we have to just, you know,
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  Speaker 4: position our business better over the course of our future,
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  Speaker 4: the near future, probably, you know, in.
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  Speaker 1: A better way than what we've done the past few years.
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  Speaker 4: And it really is, I mean, everything that we do
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  Speaker 4: from a business perspective, it's about becoming more competitive on
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  Speaker 4: the baseball field.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that I buy that. Born and raised
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  Speaker 2: in Colorado, Coors Field is an absolutely beautiful park. Lower downtown, Lodo,
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  Speaker 2: if you will, Coors Field revitalized that entire area. It
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  Speaker 2: used to be very dangerous until Coors Field went in.
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  Speaker 2: And what is around Coors Field now with McGregor Square
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  Speaker 2: and all that stuff is incredibly impressive. What's not impressive
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  Speaker 2: is the baseball team that has been fielded by the
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  Speaker 2: Colorado Rockies for the last couple of years. And it's
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  Speaker 2: very disappointing that Um, and thank God that the, the
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  Speaker 2: Rockies are lucky that that town is a Broncos town. Um,
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  Speaker 2: and the thing is you still have fans going to
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  Speaker 2: Rockies games just to go, but they're not necessarily the
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  Speaker 2: greatest base in terms of like, you know, they're not
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  Speaker 2: the Cardinals fan base or fans that really get into
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  Speaker 2: the game. It's a beautiful place to go. It's something
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  Speaker 2: to do. There's so much to do in Colorado. It's
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  Speaker 2: just something to do, but raising the ticket prices, Eric, 12%,
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  Speaker 2: when you're coming off another hundred last season, um, It's
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  Speaker 2: pretty gutsy.
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  Speaker 3: This is not a player. This is a player show,
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  Speaker 3: but this is not a player point of view. This
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  Speaker 3: is science. Ticket prices have nothing to do with how
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  Speaker 3: much your players are being paid in their salaries. The payroll,
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  Speaker 3: that is not what dictates it. It's moves like this.
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  Speaker 3: It's ownership saying, you know what? We did see fans
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  Speaker 3: came out actually at like a $ 2, 000 uh, 2000 attendance
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  Speaker 3: less than last year, but you know what?
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  Speaker 1: We're going to raise ticket prices.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what?
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  Speaker 3: When we did this, we were on a 66 win pace.
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  Speaker 3: That was my, that was the funniest part of that whole,
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  Speaker 3: like you, you want fans to buy into your process fans.
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  Speaker 3: When you say something like that, I believe, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't know many Rockies fans cause I'm not from out there,
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  Speaker 3: but I believe fans are going to be like, we'll
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  Speaker 3: see you when you start winning. Like we'll, We'll see
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  Speaker 3: you because we're usually downtown because that downtown is, like
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  Speaker 3: you said, Alana, it's hopping. I love being in Colorado.
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  Speaker 3: That downtown Denver there is so awesome. But they are–
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  Speaker 3: I think the fans have done the ownership kind of
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  Speaker 3: an injustice by continually coming out, and the ownership is
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  Speaker 3: not backed what the fans have– what I think fans
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  Speaker 3: should be rewarded with, and that's a good product on
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  Speaker 3: the field.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So one of the biggest guys in terms of
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  Speaker 1: salary cap, I need a salary cap is the owner. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: He is behind the scenes and he kind of even
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  Speaker 1: openly is one of the biggest proponents of a salary cap. Okay, fine.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever you think about that. So let's say there is
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  Speaker 1: a salary cap. Okay. Whatever that cap is, if it happens,
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  Speaker 1: it happens. We don't know if it's going to happen
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, whatever your opinion is on a salary cap.
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  Speaker 1: If he, institutes a 12% price increase, and then he
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  Speaker 1: gets a salary cap and they don't, their salary doesn't
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  Speaker 1: go to the top of the salary cap, then that's
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  Speaker 1: just more money in the Monfred family's pocket because in
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  Speaker 1: their franchise value goes up, right? So this is all
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  Speaker 1: money-making when people say, man, these players are so greedy.
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  Speaker 1: How come no one ever says the owners are so greedy?
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but how come no one ever says owners
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  Speaker 1: are so greedy? Why do you have to raise ticket prices?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, okay, if you want to raise them a
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  Speaker 1: couple percent, okay, I understand inflation. I understand things change,
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that. But 12% is a gigantic jump. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: And like Kratz said, if you want to make them
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  Speaker 1: lower ticket prices, don't show up because they still draw
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  Speaker 1: over 2 million fans every single year and they lose
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  Speaker 1: 100 games. every single year. So Rocky fans, I love you.
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  Speaker 1: I think Colorado is an awesome place to play. I
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  Speaker 1: love going to Colorado. One of the best sunsets, one
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  Speaker 1: of the best atmospheres ever in a baseball park, but
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  Speaker 1: they don't get the message. If you just don't show up,
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  Speaker 1: that's the only way they get the message. Then the
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  Speaker 1: prices will go down because if you keep showing up,
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: they're like, we can make these ticket prices, anything we
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  Speaker 1: saw and people keep showing up.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And that park is huge to begin with. Uh,
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: it's a, it's a huge, huge, huge park. And they
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  Speaker 2: took basically the entire, you know, right center field area,
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  Speaker 2: took the seats out and made it into all the,
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  Speaker 2: you know, all these bars and other things. It's, it's a,
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  Speaker 2: it's a great place, but people don't demand winning there
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  Speaker 2: in terms of, in terms of the Rockies. They do,
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  Speaker 2: they go just to go and do something, you know, uh,
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  Speaker 2: in an evening or on the weekend or whatever. But, um,
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  Speaker 2: It's unfortunate. The diehard baseball fans deserve a better product
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: on the field. All right, guys, baseball fans, it's time
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• 11:35
  Speaker 1: This is a bummer.
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: If you're a mascot, listen to this, guys. Not even
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: the Baltimore Orioles mascots, Oriole Bird and Mr. Splash, have
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: been spared from the team's downsizing. These people who played
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: these roles, along with the Orioles team photographer, were among
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: employees let go by the club as part of layoffs
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  Speaker 2: that included a total of 16 people in roles ranging
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  Speaker 2: from ticket sales to graphic design, team sources who were
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  Speaker 2: granted anonymity, said that they were not authorized to speak
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  Speaker 2: publicly about this, did tell The Athletic. That's a bummer.
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: It's a bad day to be an Oriole mascot, huh?
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  Speaker 1: Wow. I mean, is this so when there's a lockout,
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  Speaker 1: they don't have to pay them to go do a
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: corporate event? I don't understand. And by the way, I
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: just met these guys in Philly at the All-Star game.
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  Speaker 1: I was with you. They were awesome. They were awesome.
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  Speaker 5: Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Flash came over. The Oriole bird came over, full costume.
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  Speaker 1: It was great. You know, he did a sign language
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  Speaker 1: because they don't speak. So he did a sign language
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  Speaker 1: with his wings. He flapped his wings and we had
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  Speaker 1: a full conversation. Poor guy.
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: This is not a PSA to anybody who wants to
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  Speaker 3: be in sports. But all these jobs have historically been
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  Speaker 3: for one year. So if there's a lockout looming, yeah,
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: you might want to be able to flip burgers and
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: drive an Uber. But, like, geez, it just– Heads up,
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: everybody that has a job. Because most baseball jobs are
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  Speaker 3: one-year jobs. And it's very rare you get like a
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  Speaker 3: multi-year deal. So you never know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but mascots. Usually the mascots, they stay there pretty long.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they usually mask. I mean, Mr. Splash, you
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  Speaker 1: can see his face. But the bird, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: bird is sacred. Yeah, Wally. Wally with the red socks.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the fanatic. I mean, all these mascots, they
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  Speaker 1: usually stick around for a while. They're not usually one
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  Speaker 1: and done. They usually have a pretty long run.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Dinger in Colorado could go. He could go.
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  Speaker 1: No, he's awesome. Best announcement ever when he came out
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: of the egg.
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  Speaker 2: That's so ridiculous as the dinosaur, the dinosaur egg when
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  Speaker 2: they were excavating the land for Coors Field.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Wally is a staple. The Fanatic is the best, I think.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: Switching sports, Rocky for the Nuggets, phenomenal. Another very good one.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Of good mascots. Slider, the Moose, the Slider, the Moose, Mr.
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  Speaker 1: and Mrs.
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  Speaker 3: Matt, Mr.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: And Mrs. Red Leggings. There's a lot of good ones. Raymond,
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  Speaker 1: DJ Kitty. What about DJ Kitty? DJ Kitty, that's a
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  Speaker 1: little weird.
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  Speaker 3: No, it is a mascot, Eric.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: It is?
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: Billy the Marlin?
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: It is, yeah.
• 14:18
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• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Want to work in sports? Well, the Mets are hiring
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: for data scientists. How about this? And they're taking it
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: pretty seriously, gentlemen. Senior data scientist, baseball analytics, data scientist,
• 15:33
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• 15:43
  Speaker 1: No, thank you. I remember a couple years ago, I
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: think it was University of Florida was hiring a bullpen catcher.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: I think that's more my style. than sitting in front
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: of a screen and typing all day. I think there's
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: enough of those people that do that, and I'm more
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: of a hands-on, I want to be on the field
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: kind of guy.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Eric, it seems like the Mets are very
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: focused on analytics. Hasn't worked for them so far. It
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  Speaker 2: seems like that's the push.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think they needed some jobs to be filled.
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  Speaker 3: I think this is a little overblown, but I'm seeing
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: how fast. I don't think I type fast enough, so
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I'd be– And is it data or data?
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  Speaker 1: I think it's both.
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  Speaker 2: It's like tomato, tomato.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just how you say it. Anybody that says tomato?
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Nobody says tomato. British people do. Have you guys ever
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: seen Goonies? Of course. What do they call them in Goonies?
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Data. Data. They call them data.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Well, there you go. That's what it is. They would
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: never get it wrong in Goonies.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: That's a great movie.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: Data.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: Data.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: All right, data, data, whatever. Players are saying they don't
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: want analytics. Mets are saying, well, we're hiring analytics guys.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: No?
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Players aren't saying they don't want analytics. Players are saying
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: they need everybody to be in their place. If I
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: ran an organization, I would say, if you are a
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: data guy, if you're an analytics guy, you got to
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: make sure you know what's going on in the field.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: And if you're an on the field guy, you got
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: to know what's going on in analytics. There are the
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: best ones know both and they know how to handle
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: people in both. And the arguments from players are definitely
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: what they're hiring for four positions and data.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Oh man, you know what we need? We need a
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: fourth hitting coach. Like relax, relax. It's not a crossover
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: in jobs.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Like you need somebody in all of them and everybody
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: needs to know that the players are the product.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I think two hitting coaches is one too many, let
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: alone four hitting coaches.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: And we don't forget the balls.