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24- Naughty vs. Nice: The Ultimate Christmas Song Debate · Arguing Ever After

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Hello and welcome to Arguing Ever After.
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I am Luke and this is Amber. Hello.
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And here we are, like halfway most of the way through holly
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jolly season We. Don't have to make it seem like
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it's too too long and we want to shorten it.
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No, I OK. I mean, we're, we're almost
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halfway through December. Yes, yes.
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And that's, that's a lot. I mean, there's, there's not
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much more shopping time. How are you doing on your
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shopping? I feel semi OK.
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Yeah. Which probably means I'm 80%
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done. I do too.
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I feel pretty good. I have just a little bit left to
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do. But you know, of course,
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watching those delivery times like a hawk.
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Oh, yeah, And then you get the emails.
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Sorry, your delivery has been delayed.
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It's like, yeah, I know this happens every year.
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Every year. My favorite shopping thing that
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happened this year was you video chatting me at work today at a
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craft fair full of all the Christmas things.
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Yeah, yeah, 'cause I knew. It was so kind of you.
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For someone who's not quite as holly and jolly.
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I'm not as the season. I'm not, but I knew it was a
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very specific craft show. It would only be on today.
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There was a ton of Christmas crafts and I knew that you were
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looking for a few additional items for our household.
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And did we get a couple winners? Oh boy.
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Yeah, and I really like art shows, craft shows, things like
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that because you have some unique things.
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And honestly, like support a small business is nice.
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You do like an antique as well, we know.
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That I like antiques too. From the from the the bonus
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episode of show and tell that we do.
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That's a good call back. Yeah.
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So anyhow, I yeah, it just seemed you wouldn't be able to
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be there at all. There is one more somewhere else
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and we can talk about that later.
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It's a pretty big one. It might be something you might
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be interested in, but. This is the secret.
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No, I just don't think that the audience cares about it.
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OK, well, I love all the Christmas things, so it's fine.
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I'm going to be excited. And talking about Christmas
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shopping. Yeah, we had gone out Christmas
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shopping last weekend at the biggest mall.
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Mall of America. And we had brought our 13 year
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old daughter and she wanted to buy some gifts for her friends,
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which is great. Using her allowance.
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Using her own money. And we go to a very large store,
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a very large company, and she goes to pay and she's got cash
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because she doesn't have a credit card, right?
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And well, her total was like $13.21 and so she hands them, I
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don't know, like a 20 or something like that, doesn't
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really matter, but she didn't hand them any change and she
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gets back for coins $0.75 now it.
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Doesn't add up. It doesn't add up and the
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checkout guy said we don't have pennies.
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There's a pennies aren't being printed anymore.
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Minted. Sure, sure, they don't make them
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anymore. And I said so we eat the
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difference and I, I was like low key mad, but I realized it was
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just four cents so I walked away.
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I wasn't going to make anything weird for our daughter or anyone
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else in line, but I'm still kind of a little mad about it 'cause
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this corporation's huge. You know you should do.
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Write a letter. I know but but the cost of the
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stamp to write the letter. You could write an electronic
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letter I. Could write an electric.
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Letter. Oh my goodness.
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I could, I guess. I guess that's a possibility.
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I recently wrote an electronic letter to a local eatery that we
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enjoy who totally botched our drive through order.
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They did and they said so sorry you had a bad experience, here's
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a refund and some free meals. Give us another shot.
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I don't think that would be the answer.
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It just seems like real scammy to me that the customer is going
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to eat the pennies that exist. That's for sure scammy.
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But. I think that almost for sure
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it's gonna end up in court because there's no way companies
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are just gonna be able to pocket on the small scale.
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Maybe it's hundreds on the large scale for multi point franchises
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and then for like multinational places that have, well, I guess
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it wouldn't matter in multi anyway, like millions of dollars
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that they're just taking from the American consumer.
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It's going to end up in court. They're going to lose.
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And then I think the stores are going to have to print like a
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voucher, like an in store credit for like here's your four cents.
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Which is silly, but OK. I get the argument that pennies
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cost more than they were worth. That's a fair argument.
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It doesn't make the making of change any easier, of course,
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but at least if you give someone a version of tender for their
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change that they should have had, even though that locks you
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back into their store, which is even that's a little like I
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don't love that I. Don't like that.
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No, I don't like it but. They're not gonna be able to
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just keep. It no.
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Well, they did they. Did or hey bring change or like?
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That is going to be my life hack #5 for all of those.
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They're gonna run out of pennies though, like.
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It doesn't matter. Life hack #5 for all of you
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folks. #5 we're at. Yes, this is number 5.
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Ask before you pay in cash. That's a good call.
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And then? If you don't have exact change.
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Don't do it because and. What you could do if they take
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it, write them a check cuz it costs them more to process a
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check. It does.
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For real, I know I run a business.
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It literally costs more to process a check.
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Well, I just didn't. And The thing is, it's the
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principle. But.
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Especially with a lot of places now charging like a a fee on 2
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two or three or 4% fee on your credit card which is federally
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legal. Which is that's silly to me.
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But like maybe maybe the new answer is if you have exact
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change, bring it. If you don't cuz pennies run out
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at some point, bring a check. I mean, but so many companies
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won't take checks anymore. I don't know that's true.
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I'm just like it's, it shouldn't cost me extra money to spend
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money at a business that wants my money for sure.
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So I don't know, that's a it's probably too long of a rant, but
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I just need you all to know the scam that's going on.
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It's a scam and it's only large companies because I've gone to
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small companies and when I've not had the pennies they've
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given, they've spotted me the pennies.
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They round up for you. Yeah, so this is one of the
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reasons why shopping local is so important.
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I mean, that being said, let's tell the truth.
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We provide a lot of revenue to Amazon.
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Too much, Too much. They just make it so easy.
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They do. And I don't know, I mean, I'm
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cool with it. I don't hate it.
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I also like buying from a small business, especially if, like, I
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can meet the person that owns the place.
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Like, that's cool, you know? Yeah.
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But anyhow, we'll be wrapping up that stuff.
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Oh goodness, you got it wrapping up.
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I sadly did. I did get that joke.
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Yeah, so, but there's other ways that you like preparing for the
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Christmas Day. There's a lot.
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Like some traditions or what do you what do you like to do?
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What are your hot what? Is the word I'm looking for.
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Well, the first thing I do every year is decorate the house.
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That's the first thing I do. So I start with the outside.
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Yep, cuz Minnesota this year. That's the reason I do it.
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Like I usually it's mid November is when I decorate the outside
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of the house cuz usually there's a couple of decent days weather
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wise, but you never know when it's gonna turn.
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And it turned hard this year. I feel like we talked about that
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on our last episode. Fairly enough, the reason I got
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for you video viewers a pillow behind my head.
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It's not cuz I need a pillow, it's cuz it's so cold today that
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the cold is seeping in through the window behind me.
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Yeah, and I, I shaved my head so it's there's no hair on the back
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of my neck to keep me warm and whoo.
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Anyway, so I usually that's how I start my Christmas wonders and
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tradition that I have for myself is while putting up the outside
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decorations and the lights on the House and all the things,
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the inflatable and whatever I'm doing is I listen to Christmas
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music because I love Christmas music.
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And so that and then the inside, that would be the next thing I
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decorate and again listen to Christmas music.
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Yep. And then what else?
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Baked cookies. I like baking a recipe from my
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grandma. She was an amazing woman.
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Yeah, but when you do that, are you listening to Christmas
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music? I just might.
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I don't know that I always do, but I wouldn't be opposed to it
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given that I love Christmas music.
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Yeah. Or do you watch A Christmas?
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Movie and we promised in one of the recent episodes that I was
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going to share my Christmas playlist.
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Yes. Which I just figured out how to
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do on YouTube Music, which I think means it's also available
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as a playlist on YouTube period. I don't know that for sure, but
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I think they like semi integrate.
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It's called. What did I say?
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I called it #1 because I took your hack with the year.
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It wasn't an hack. Your playlist is named first
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anyway, so I named it #1 Christmas Variety.
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I think that's what I called it because it is a very eclectic
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mix of Christmas music. And he'll share a link through
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our social medias. If I figure out how, you bet.
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It's pretty easy. I'm sure it is.
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I guess the answer is will, but I mean if I can do it, you can
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do it. I mean, there's that one song.
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But OK, so within within 7 minutes?
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Better what? Within 7 minutes.
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I had 1900 views. 1800 views on this, you know it's.
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Because it's the most wonderful time of the year.
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I think it's sort of. I would have never cared about
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how many people listen to a music list.
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It's kind of a fun thing, though.
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That's one of the things I love about music in general, is it's
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like almost unequivocally the thing that cross culturally
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brings people together. Yeah.
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For all occasions. Yeah.
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Yeah. Birth.
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Weddings. Birth.
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Yeah, you know what? It's music is everything, man.
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It's but I don't think of it's the big events, it's the small
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events. It's the work commute, it's the
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workout jam. It's the, I mean, it's that
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background music at a party. It's the front ground music at a
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music party. It's concerts.
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It's man, it's I love music. I listen to so much music.
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Yeah. What is your preparation for the
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holiday season for? Well, for my favorite holiday
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season, there's a lot of support.
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I'll give you credit for that. I ask people for lists and then
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I fulfill items on lists. And really close to Christmas, I
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bake some cookies and oh, the other thing is that I make that
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is a Christmas tradition for my family, especially my two
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sisters. My, my 2 full sisters is making
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my Aunt Kathy's peanut butter chocolate bars.
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Those are those they're so good. So I, I will have to do that
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this year for sure as well. It's not Christmas in my family
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without those. Well, thank you, Kathy.
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Yes, yes, Aunt Kathy. Those are the best.
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The best for sure. I don't think I can share the
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recipe. I think she's one of those that
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doesn't. And I'm not one of those people.
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I'm Here you go. Here's my.
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Recipe. I like things being secretive
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because it's kind of fun so long as it gets passed down or within
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the family. Like my SO, my grand aunt, which
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was my grandma growing up. There's a whole back story, but
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we'll leave that aside. She had her own famous within
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the family recipe for molasses cookies, which is one really
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good they'll. Have to be made.
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That we cook and literally the whole family cooks them like
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across the country. And there's, like, shipping back
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and forth between the East Coast and the Midwest.
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And there's like, who did it better this year?
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And it's, it's it's a lot of fun.
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Yeah. Those are some delicious
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cookies. They're very good, very good.
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Molasses cookies? You don't really see that.
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No. That's one of the my 2 grandma
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recipes I like a lot because they're super rare.
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Like you see a lot of the same types of cookies around this
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time of year. Yeah, but I also think some of
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it's also very regional too, right?
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I mean, we, you know, here where we live, Lefsa is a huge
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Christmas tradition. Lefsa, why?
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Why do you eat on Lefsa? But like Christmas, I don't get.
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It I don't know cuz it takes a lot of work.
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I mean, they're counting out potatoes and making these flat
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little. They're like.
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Potato crepes. They're super good.
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Crepes are better, but you know, they're very sorry if I offended
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all the Norwegians. Or Swedes or which we're we're
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number, our number one listeners are in Minnesota.
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So way to go. I don't dislike lefsa, I'm just
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saying if I'm given the choice between a lefsa.
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And a crepe? Nope, Minnesota, I got you.
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Having that tiny French pancake. Nope, Minnesota, I got you.
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It's Lefsa. Because I know all of the work
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that went into it. It's a lot more than you might
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think it is. And yeah, we made some.
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I don't know, I like it. That's a weird very regional
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thing I think, cuz I bet you other parts of the country it's
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not as to give a deal. No way.
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Yeah, Well, it's is it Swedish? We have a lot of Swedish and
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Norwegian I think. It's Norwegian.
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It's Norwegian. But anyhow, if you haven't had
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it because you don't live where it is but you happen to see it,
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you should try it. You know when it's really good
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with butter and brown sugar? Put it on there.
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A lot of things are good with butter and brown sugar.
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But you don't even need to melt the butter and brown sugar.
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It's just it's, I don't know, I don't it's.
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Raw butter. Yes.
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Yes. And people put other things on
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it. I don't know what, I don't know
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what other people. Put on it, I would imagine, much
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like you would do for a crepe. You probably could put berries
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you can. You know, yeah, yeah.
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Syrup. I don't know, Sir.
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No, no, sorry. I mean, I do.
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Because so many people haven't had this, we can stop discussing
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this item, but. I mean, it is Minnesota, so.
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It is Minnesota. Most of our listeners are here.
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But anyhow, so food, food's a big thing for you.
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Grandma stuff, it's about a lot of it is traditions.
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It's, you know, yeah, cuz it reminds me of them.
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Yes. And it brings me back to
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childhood, which I think is one of the things that very
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specifically about Christmas. Well, and I mean, most holidays
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probably have this, but for I think a lot of families that
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celebrate it, and obviously we do that Christmas is a thing
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that really, really brings you back and anchors you in
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childhood and like the family dynamic and the traditions that
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you liked growing up and the songs you like growing up and
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the foods you like to eat growing up.
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And then you're able to remake those as an adult and carry that
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tradition on. And I think it's pretty great.
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I think it does it better than most holidays.
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I'm going to put a hot take out there.
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Well, OK, it's. Hot take I think the most
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overrated Christmas food item is the candy cane.
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Most overrated. It's everywhere and I don't need
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it everywhere. It's like, I mean, it's like I.
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Don't know that I disagree. I mean, that's, you know,
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they're. They're fine.
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Fine, but you know you could get a much more manageable thing
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would be those little circle peppermints if you wanted a
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peppermint. Yeah.
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And that's the, I mean, obviously.
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My favorite though was the cherry flavored ones going.
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Up. You know what?
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That's what we have on our tree cherry.
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No, if you remembered me and I appreciate.
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It. You're welcome.
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No, I didn't know that yours was the cherry that was.
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Like a bunch of wild ones, yeah. Oh, we've had Dolly Rancher.
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OK, wait, Darber. Life hack number one from Luke
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specific to this time of year, I'm going to make some I'm going
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to make some, some waves out there.
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We're going to change the scene. OK, if well, this big caveat, if
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they still are selling the hot Tamale flavored candy canes,
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which is a cinnamon. I mean, everyone has had a hot
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Tamale. It's a cinnamon spicy thing.
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OK, you take that, make a cup of hot cocoa.
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It's got to be hot. Hot, like hot enough to melt,
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hot enough to melt the candy cane.
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And you put the candy cane and then let it melt in the hot
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cocoa. It is super good.
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It's got a little kick to it and it's got the cinnamon in it.
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Oh, and your face is wrong because what about you're about
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to say something that's wrong too.
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I'm. Just laughing because do you
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think like putting a candy cane into a hot coke?
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No, no brand new item. That candy cane, everyone's put
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a candy cane in a hot cocoa, the hot Tamale one, because it's not
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like, because like here, you could put, you could.
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Put hot chocolate. No, it's not There's.
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I've had Mexican hot chocolate, it's not the same.
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It's not the same. It's not and it's also not like
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putting cinnamon in your it's not it's, it's a special thing.
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It's the closest thing I've ever had as an adult to what they
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used to sell at Caribou Coffee. Also, shout out to a local
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Minnesota founded company which is now owned by, you know,
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larger interest, but it was started by a Minnesota couple,
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Caribou Coffee, and they made a drink called, what was it
19:50
called? It was spicy cocoa.
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That's what it was called. And we used to make it all the
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time. And it was delicious when I
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worked there as a teenager. And I'm just glad that it
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existed and I was able to reproduce it.
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Well, there you go, there you go.
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So that's Luke's first first tip #1.
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Life. Hack #1. #1 for me.
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It makes sense that your first life hack would come at
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Christmas. Time delicious.
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Yeah, well, you know, there you go.
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There you go. Find them.
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I don't know if they sell them at the store or whatever.
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They might not. Luke might have bought them all
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already. I don't know where you found
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them. They'll try to find some this
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weekend. Well, that's the thing.
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There's just too many flavors. I I just got that's when I was
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buying candy canes. I got overwhelmed.
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I was. You did come back one year with
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all the varieties I do. We had like 150 candy canes, too
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many. I think I even said, do you
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think we're gonna eat all? Of these and I knew I knew we
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wouldn't but I was like I don't know what your favorites are.
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I know you know cuz you said get candy cherry for the tree.
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Cherry So in my brain is cherry cuz I think that's probably what
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my mom liked. That's what I mean.
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There were, when I was a kid, there were two kinds.
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It was cherry, or I didn't even know it was cherry, just fruit
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flavor. Right, more was it?
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Doesn't it really tastes like cherry?
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It doesn't at all, but that's what.
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They call it and it is more like a fruit punch or a It only kind
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of reminds me. Of it's tutti fruity, but it's
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not. No, there was a maybe that is
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it. Did that have like a zebra on
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it? It was the gum juice, no?
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Not Juicy Fruit. No, no, no, it doesn't matter.
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It had zero flavor after 2 seconds but.
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It had a zebra. Stripes yes yes cuz the.
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Stripes were a zebra. Yes, and that was probably where
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the. Flavor was still make that.
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Probably don't. Not no.
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It really was one of those gums. There was a lot of that bag in
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the day. You'd have a piece of gum and
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for like literally it was 5 seconds.
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To be like, this is amazing. And then you'd be like, why am I
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chewing rubber? But that's kind of brilliant
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when you think about it, because, you know, I mean.
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You're going to eat more. You're going to eat more.
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And I, I, I promise you I had more than one pack of fruit
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stripes, even though I knew it was low quality, wasn't going to
22:06
taste good. But in the beginning it would
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taste. Oh, fire.
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Right. Like, I get it.
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I mean, I don't think they do anymore.
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It really was a terrible chewing gum.
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If you're into chewing gum, that's not, I don't think they
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make it anymore. No, it just it wouldn't last.
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But I don't know. I don't know.
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So. Wait, did you say what your
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traditions were? We got a little sidetracked.
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Now, well, we talked about traditions of why like on our
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last episode. That's OK, I like traditions
22:35
anyway. That's fine, whatever.
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I did. Oh, Oh no, I did.
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I said my traditions are asking for lists and fulfilling and
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then making cookies, OK. And then going to whatever
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functions I need to go to. That's this year.
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I am going to a function and I did get an ugly sweater.
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I'm going to an ugly sweater. Party.
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That's the ugliest ugly sweater. No, I mean.
22:59
Not an attractive sweater. It's not really for me.
23:01
I actually because I won't wear it ever again except for for
23:05
this party. I did say Luke, would you wear
23:09
this for not ugly sweater? I said the heck yeah.
23:13
So that's what we did. It's a Highland cow.
23:17
We got to tell the people, yeah, it's a Highland cow.
23:20
And it's got, and it's got like the lights in the shirt.
23:24
Yeah, which is a newish thing, Yeah.
23:26
And you hit a little button, there's like a battery pack.
23:28
You hit a little button and it twinkles the.
23:30
Yeah, Little Holly jolly lights on that sweater.
23:33
I sort of anyhow, when I was realizing I was gonna need a
23:37
sweater for the I don't think it was technically a ugly Christmas
23:40
sweater. It just was called a Christmas
23:42
sweater party. But I realized that there's I'm
23:45
not ever, ever gonna wear it again.
23:48
So. But you might.
23:49
I for sure will wear. It yeah, yeah, on.
23:51
Purpose. Because I think it's great.
23:53
Yeah. So because it's Christmassy?
23:55
Yeah, and I don't care if it's a little big.
23:57
I have a low bar when it comes to Christmas you, I really do.
24:01
You do. Today at work a lady and well, a
24:04
family came in and out through the window of the store I saw in
24:11
their car. So the husband and wife had come
24:13
in and I think their son came in.
24:17
He was in a different car, something like that.
24:19
They were coming to buy a car. Anyway, they had left their dog
24:22
in the car. Now don't, don't hold on, hold
24:24
on. Everyone knows it's cold in
24:26
Minnesota and no one's dumb enough to kill their dog.
24:28
So that might not be true. Well, most people aren't.
24:31
So they had the heat on, but I saw, but I saw the dog and the
24:35
dog had on a Christmas sweater in the car.
24:38
And I see like I'm seeing the dog.
24:41
And I said right when they came in before they even there, we
24:44
were like, hi. And they were like, hi, we're
24:45
here to look at such and such a car.
24:47
And I said, hold on, do you want to go get your dog and bring
24:51
your dog in? Because we're a dog friendly
24:53
place and I saw the Christmas sweater and I'm a big fan of
24:56
Christmas. Bring that dog inside.
24:58
And they did, and we got to pet the dog and.
24:59
Take a picture. I did not take a picture, did
25:02
you? Sell a car?
25:03
Yeah, you should take a picture and, like, post it on your
25:06
social media. Well, I mean, here's what I'm
25:08
learning as a podcaster. That's different.
25:13
Everything is available for the gram, right?
25:16
Sure. And and if it had been at, yeah,
25:20
we don't really do that a lot at my location, but you know.
25:25
I'm gonna say thank you for bringing the dog in.
25:28
Well, yeah, because it it was really, really.
25:30
The dog was celebrating Christmas.
25:32
I had to get my little dog friend in and say hello and then
25:36
I felt bad that I didn't have dog treats.
25:38
Oh, how did you have dog treats? I just don't know because I get
25:41
you shouldn't you probably shouldn't have them there.
25:44
It's not. I mean, like those doors are
25:45
open so often and you know, little critters like to run in
25:48
and oh, for sure. What?
25:49
If you like, there's not a. Coons come in.
25:52
Oh, that's not OK, But there is literally not a shop that you
25:56
could find in the north where it gets cold that doesn't have mice
26:00
in it. Not one shop that exists, not if
26:02
it's been built yesterday. And.
26:04
I bet you they like dog treats so I don't know.
26:07
Well, they like what they like crayons they like they'll eat.
26:11
It doesn't even make sense. Oh, yeah, Yep.
26:15
All kinds of you see it and go what?
26:18
What's happening? Why?
26:20
Why'd they do that? Right?
26:21
I can't be good for them. No anyway, no, actually, you
26:24
know what? That's funny.
26:25
I just said that. So as I was doing my lock up, I
26:29
saw a little it was kind of cute actually, a little puffy little
26:33
fat mouse in the in the shop. And I walked up like I'm walking
26:39
around and got within 3 feet and it just was cool.
26:45
OK. And so then I decided that the
26:46
technicians BAE who I was near must be a mouse friendly
26:52
technician. Oh gosh, you don't.
26:53
Because this, this little mouse just looked up at me like, hey,
26:57
yeah. And then just went back to its
26:59
business. And I was like, I'm really
27:01
surprised that that thing didn't take off running, but OK, you
27:05
know? Maybe he was like, I saw that
27:07
you must like animals earlier when you let that dog come out
27:12
and, and, and he looked at you with his little, you know,
27:16
Christmas mouse eyes and said it's Christmas.
27:19
He did don't smash me and I didn't.
27:23
I just was like, well, I'm not going to change the world by
27:25
doing anything to this one little mouse.
27:27
Yeah, well, you know what there's.
27:29
More of them for sure. Now you need to get him a little
27:31
Christmas scarf or something, you know?
27:33
I gotta touch it. No, OK, Well, it doesn't sound
27:37
very. They're not known to be clean
27:40
animals. Yeah, probably not.
27:42
I know they started to plague, didn't they?
27:44
It was that. Rat, not cute little puffy mice.
27:46
Not puffy mice, OK. Yeah.
27:48
All right, all right. Well, I mean, I think I'm OK.
27:52
I'm I'm not a mouse person, but I'm OK that the mouse had a warm
27:55
spot tonight, because it is. Super, Yeah.
27:58
Nothing's gonna survive outside. I have lots of things survive
28:02
outside, otherwise we wouldn't have animals and things like
28:05
that in the summer. Well, not like outside outside.
28:10
Yeah, I don't. Know they build little Burrows
28:12
like bears go into caves and wolves build dens and even them
28:17
big furry things need somewhere to go because it is too cold man
28:21
it. Is too cold.
28:22
We hold the record. Minnesota.
28:23
It's cold. Just sand, baby.
28:27
It is cold outside it. Really.
28:29
Is it really? Is you got me?
28:31
I'm going to start singing if you don't.
28:34
OK, so you're talking about singing?
28:38
A lot, actually, because it's great.
28:40
Yes. So here we are.
28:43
I have a question for you, Luke. And I am ready, ladies and
28:48
gentlemen, the moment you've all been waiting for.
28:51
Yeah, in this corner, wearing her very green.
28:54
It's Christmasy, yet Saint Patrick's the Irish sweatshirt.
29:01
We have Amber claiming to weigh in at 125 lbs Nope, Nope. 135
29:07
lbs, whatever it is. And Grinchy though she might be,
29:13
she does support. She does support.
29:16
And the support counts the Christmas joy that I radiate for
29:20
a month in this house. And she might need a little bit
29:24
of that joy today to take me down in this contest.
29:28
All right, and in this corner we have my very, very special
29:32
Christmas elf. Yes, indeed.
29:35
Weighing in about 185 cuz the cookies haven't started yet.
29:39
I'm sure that number will go higher.
29:41
It will. Current, currently we are at
29:47
he's, he's got seven wins and eight losses.
29:52
We have several ties. We'll see.
29:54
We'll. See several open votes.
29:56
Yeah, we have several open votes and there's good reasons for
29:59
that. We want to ensure we give a
30:00
little bit more time but but it being Christmas, Luke.
30:05
Yes. Time close to Christmas, I am
30:10
going to give you a special gift.
30:13
A special gift. I am ready for that.
30:15
Yes, of not just one, but two questions.
30:22
It's a double header. Is it double?
30:25
OK. Yeah, yeah.
30:27
And because I was thinking, gosh, you like Christmas music?
30:32
I do. I'm gonna I'm gonna have you
30:35
create a naughty and nice Christmas list.
30:43
OK. Ish.
30:44
You get to pick. Ish you get.
30:46
To pick for nice, your favorite Christmas song, and for naughty,
30:54
the one you dislike the most. And.
30:57
And just for you listeners, that means there's not going to be 1
31:01
poll. There's two polls. 22 pole, 2 N
31:06
poles. That doesn't make sense.
31:09
There's. Only One North and and AS
31:11
there's a north. And a South Pole couldn't even
31:12
just let. It happen because it's not
31:14
logically correct. So Luke, what would your nice
31:19
song be and what would your naughty song be?
31:22
Just backtracking for a second, I could answer the question, but
31:25
technically there isn't a North Pole magnetically you can't get
31:30
to it. Did you know that?
31:32
No, I mean, I think I've heard something about it, but I don't.
31:35
Yeah, no, no. OK, so.
31:37
The magnets. Good.
31:38
There you go. That's the question.
31:39
OK, so the the naughty and the nice.
31:44
Naughty and nice. Well, cuz I'd like to end on a
31:48
high note and I would encourage you to do the same.
31:52
I'm gonna go with are we gonna wait?
31:54
Are we gonna you, you do you OK, Let's should we do?
31:58
Should we battle naughty 1st and then nice second?
32:00
Or should I do both of mine and then you do both of yours?
32:02
Oh. That's a good question.
32:04
It's kind of fun. I don't know how.
32:06
We'll see. We'll see.
32:07
What I wanna know? Go start.
32:10
OK, I'm going naughty 1st and maybe we'll see what happens.
32:12
OK, so, OK, OK, so the song or songs, but I'm going to pick one
32:18
because there's a, there's a few songs and I ain't going to try
32:20
to steal your Thunder. There's some songs that I am not
32:26
a fan of at Christmas. Yeah.
32:30
Or really well, ever because these are Christmas carols or
32:33
songs. There's a handful.
32:36
I'm going to name off at least three.
32:39
Yeah. Because of its popularity, both
32:44
positive and negative. I don't like that one Mariah
32:48
Carey song cuz everyone talks about it and there's like memes
32:51
about her coming out of hibernation and it's like y'all
32:56
it's a popular song can we not talk about it all the time?
33:00
OK there are so many better and worse Christmas songs than that
33:03
one but that's on my list just cuz it's annoying that it
33:06
happens every year. And I don't dislike the song
33:10
itself even, I just dislike that it is so talked about.
33:14
So that's on my list for that reason specifically.
33:17
It upsets people. It's just why do you like
33:20
everyone gets all wrapped up and it's like the song is actually
33:22
fine. That's.
33:23
A fine song. Anyway, yeah, so so that's on my
33:26
list of the naughty cuz I'm annoyed by people's opinions of
33:32
it and then I don't like Santa baby because although it's cute,
33:42
I. Like that?
33:43
One, it's the most materialistic song maybe ever written.
33:48
She's asking for, I mean, fur coats, diamond rings, buildings,
33:55
a yacht. That's not a lot.
33:57
A54 convertible 2 light blue. It's it's crazy anyway, so
34:05
that's one of them too, just because of the level of
34:08
materialism in the song. And then, man, I could probably
34:15
go ahead. It's like a good timing song,
34:18
like music, you know the like, what is that like the 50s
34:21
forties like it's got that whole vibe in it from exactly.
34:25
It's super. I like.
34:26
I know it's old, it's Eartha Kitt tonight, so it's got to be.
34:29
It's probably 60s or something. Yeah.
34:31
It's, I don't know, it's yeah. OK, OK.
34:34
And I like her anyway. Yeah.
34:37
And then we both dislike a song or two together.
34:41
So I won't name any of the ones that I'm not sure of that you
34:44
might say you dislike. And I guess my number one that I
34:52
dislike the most is I don't even know the lyrics because I can't
34:59
listen to the song is the Alvin and the Chipmunks Christmas song
35:06
because Oh my goodness, I don't know what sort of technology
35:10
they used back then. I don't know if it was small
35:14
children's voices. I sure hope not because it
35:16
didn't sound like it. But whatever they did to make
35:20
that song, it is so ear piercingly annoying.
35:27
I like, I like tense up when it comes on and I if it's in the
35:33
radio, I change the station at work.
35:35
If it comes up on one of my work things, I go in the back where
35:39
our satellite radio receiver is and I change the station.
35:42
If it's in a place where I don't have control of the music, I'm
35:46
leaving, I'm out. Did you watch the Chipmunks as a
35:49
kid? I for sure saw it at least one
35:52
time. OK, but I didn't, like watch it.
35:55
All right, all right. And I thought you were asking
35:57
about that movie. Actually, there was like a
35:58
Christmas. Special.
35:59
Yes, there was. I don't know if it was like a TV
36:02
short episode or if it was like an actual movie.
36:05
No, it was like a Christmas. Man.
36:08
Yeah. It's, I remember it, sort of.
36:12
I actually like the chipmunks when I was a kid.
36:14
But man, the song, it's sad, Alvin, Simon, Theodore, and then
36:19
they're singing and it's all high pitched and scratchy on
36:22
nails on a chalkboard. I'm thinking about it and it
36:26
makes me cringe a little bit. So I think we go back and forth
36:32
head to head on that. Let's do Naughty 1st and nice
36:34
second and that's your turn. So I mean, I'm gonna just tell
36:40
you I actually, but I like the chipmunks.
36:44
That's my problem. I don't know.
36:45
You don't gotta like the Chipmunks and or hate the
36:48
Chipmunks to hate the song. I told you I liked Eartha Kitt.
36:51
I actually like that song too. Well, I like that song too.
36:54
Sure. A lot of people like Mariah
36:56
Carey and don't like that song. It's whatever.
37:00
I think though for me there are a few that I think are.
37:03
Also there's a lot of Christmas songs I don't like.
37:06
Separate the art from the artist.
37:08
It's. Very true.
37:09
There's there's just a ton of Christmas songs I don't like.
37:13
And while I don't necessarily like, the reason I think for me
37:17
that Mariah Carey song is just annoying is because it's just
37:20
all the time. But I think in general,
37:22
actually, I agree. I think it's actually a good
37:24
song, but I won't ever listen to it because I can't.
37:27
It's just annoying it, But like, also good for her.
37:32
Like she broke into a world that nobody, you know, like no one
37:37
had really hit that hard since Bing Crosby.
37:39
Like who? Owned.
37:40
I was going to say, a lot of people broke into that.
37:42
Owned it though. Right.
37:44
It came on. We went and changed it because
37:47
everyone at work was like, I can't do this song is terrible.
37:49
I'm like, Oh my God, guys, just go change the station, right?
37:52
Someone looked up. Do you know how much she makes
37:54
every year on that song? This.
37:56
I did some research by accident today.
37:58
What do you think of that? I bet you she earns.
38:00
Like estimate. 150 million every year?
38:03
No, it's got more than that. God no, every no okay, well,
38:08
that's. Yeah, I'm giving her.
38:10
Way too high. Okay, all right.
38:13
Well, it's estimated between 3:00 and $5,000,000 a year.
38:17
That actually doesn't sound like that much to me for as often as
38:19
that song is played and like that the amount of.
38:23
That is so much money every year on one song.
38:26
That's not the only song she has.
38:28
No, it isn't. It is she.
38:29
Had a whole album, yeah, and it's popular still, and it's
38:32
like 30 years old, and she was like the most famous.
38:37
I don't feel bad at all. But that's a lot of money
38:39
regardless. Well, anyhow, so that's that's
38:41
all. So that's not my song, even
38:44
though like, it used to really bother me because shopping
38:48
centers loved playing it a lot. We hear that in the malls when
38:52
we were kids. Yeah, yeah.
38:54
So when I think of bad Christmas songs, I have to think of things
39:00
that are just annoying and why they're annoying.
39:06
When I was a kid, I don't know if it was released when I was a
39:08
kid or if it was before when I was a kid, but I remember a song
39:12
that was released. Grandma got ran over by a
39:15
reindeer. Yeah, that's not a great song.
39:17
It's. Terrible.
39:18
It's not even funny. It's.
39:21
Who wants Grandma to get run over?
39:23
It does. Plus that cute little reindeer.
39:25
Come on. Yeah, I mean, it's it's not
39:28
funny. It's it's just, it's not saying
39:30
well, like there's nothing to me for that song that is uplifting.
39:34
Now. I like a good joke.
39:37
It's not a funny joke. So that was kind of in like some
39:41
of my top dislikes. Another one, and it's newer and
39:45
this is probably why it's not my #1 Is that Dominic Donkey song?
39:52
I don't think that's that new actually.
39:53
I don't, it's new for my ears. Cuz I heard OK, so the it's from
39:59
it's from an old Italian song that's like famous enough that
40:04
it was in that movie we just watched.
40:06
I don't know what we just. Nona's.
40:08
That was a good movie it. Was a cute movie with the
40:10
grandmas and they were cooking which is based on a true story
40:12
which is even cuter. I heard that song playing when
40:16
they were doing like one of the dances or something in that of
40:19
the like, whatever it was originally.
40:21
And I was like, oh, that's that background from Dominic the
40:25
donkey, and it was the same voice.
40:27
Well. I don't understand.
40:29
I agree that song is terrible. I don't understand why it's a
40:32
song like that's the thing. I don't, I don't fully, I mean.
40:36
Probably because the original 1 was famous and good.
40:40
Why anyone decided to make those lyrics or anything like that?
40:43
It's annoying, I don't like it, but the number one song I truly
40:50
cannot stand at all and it feels like it was a big craze for
40:57
like, I don't know, was it 10 years ago?
41:00
Probably older than that, but OK.
41:02
Is the hippopotamus for Christmas?
41:06
It's awful. There's like no redeeming
41:10
qualities to that song for me. I mean Shirley Temple.
41:15
I don't know, sings the song. I might be wrong.
41:18
I don't know, but like the the song like you're saying the
41:23
chipmunks have that great the great is in the hippopotamus for
41:29
Christmas song for me. Like if I were to have to listen
41:33
to one of the two, oh God, that would kill me.
41:36
Now that is fun. I think I would choose the
41:40
chipmunks because at least the chipmunks like I don't, I don't
41:44
hate the chipmunks. I don't know who sang this song.
41:48
I think it was Shirley Temple. I don't know, it's so like now.
41:51
I'm picking up in my head and I'm mad.
41:53
That awful, right? Hippopotamus for Christmas, only
41:55
a hippopotamus will do. Yeah, it's, it's a terrible.
41:59
It's something hippopotamus is. It's yeah, the song's not great,
42:03
I agree. It's like the Baby Shark of
42:06
Christmas song. So.
42:09
I don't know about that because I don't know about that other
42:11
one, but I don't it is well, OK. So anyhow, folks, that is my
42:17
naughty. My number one naughty is the
42:20
hippopotamus for Christmas. So, OK, well that's so that's
42:25
poll number one. North Pole #1 is.
42:31
Hippopotamus. Hippopotamus for Christmas
42:33
versus the Chipmunks. I don't even know what song they
42:37
sing. The Christmas song.
42:39
Everyone knows it. Christmas time.
42:41
OK, whatever it's called, it don't matter.
42:43
I don't know what the hippopotamus song is called
42:45
either, I think. Anyway, that's Round 1 poll #1
42:48
OK. Yes, and again.
42:49
You want to start us out? Generous poll #2.
42:51
No, I want you to. Start.
42:52
I don't want to start. Not.
42:54
At all but I got but listen, I like too much Christmas music to
42:59
have to start. No, it's not fair.
43:03
You have to start. My God.
43:04
OK, I guess we did go back and forth, back and forth.
43:07
OK, OK, so nice list for Christmas songs.
43:13
I actually like it's it's a substantial list.
43:17
First of all, as referenced earlier in the episode, if you
43:20
wanna hear the songs that are on my Christmas playlist, it is now
43:24
public and live on YouTube Music and it's called #1 Christmas
43:31
Variety. And Luke's not ever gonna get
43:34
paid for this. Never.
43:35
It's really just for bragging, right?
43:36
It's sharing. It's just I'm sharing the things
43:39
I like Yeah, it's seriously the variety is strong.
43:42
So part of that is because I work far away from.
43:47
I have a long commute, so in my long commute I add into and take
43:54
away from my music playlists frequently because I like and
44:00
need variety. Like I can't have like you have
44:03
a playlist but it's only got like 100 or 200 songs or
44:05
something. No, you're 500 songs.
44:08
No, there's at probably 800 songs which I feel like is
44:11
plenty. That is, that's plenty.
44:13
It's for me. It wouldn't be enough for my
44:16
normal. D CDs.
44:18
OK if you drove 10 hours a week you would need more.
44:24
I'm just saying cuz I know this cuz I drive a lot.
44:26
So now that is why my Christmas playlist has such a variety.
44:32
It has some very old songs, it has some very new songs.
44:38
It has songs from. I don't know that I want to say
44:42
every genre of music, but it's pretty close.
44:45
Like there I don't think I have a I almost put a like AEDM or
44:51
techno dance but I didn't I was like it doesn't quite do it, but
44:57
I have I thought. They could do the heck out of a
44:59
Christmas song. They do.
45:00
I've listened to. There's playlists out there, so
45:03
I've listened to that. With all the bells in it.
45:06
Yeah, yeah. Yep, yeah, Yep.
45:08
The one that almost made it in was Carol of the Bells.
45:13
So because it, you know, you put a baseline behind that anyway.
45:18
Yeah. So.
45:19
Yeah, so it's that's a good sound.
45:22
OK, OK. So the songs also include the
45:27
like R and BI. Don't think I have a rap one,
45:32
but there's a couple that are sort of funny.
45:35
There's country, there's rock, there's rock like.
45:39
Christmas. Yeah, there's.
45:43
Like 80s hair band. No, I don't have like a hair
45:47
metal one, but that would be interesting.
45:49
There's like singer-songwriter stuff in there, There's crooner
45:54
stuff in there, there's opera stuff in there, there's Symphony
45:59
stuff in there. There's a local guy like a
46:02
Minnesotan who wrote a Christmas couple of Christmas songs, maybe
46:06
a Christmas album that I was turned on to his music a handful
46:09
of years ago. There's so much like it's.
46:14
Kiss Christmas album. Don't wanna know, never was a
46:18
fan. So anyway, So what?
46:22
I don't know. It's not my we didn't grow up in
46:25
that era. Whatever.
46:26
OK, so anyway, so the Christmas playlist is long and it's got
46:31
100 and something songs and that's great.
46:34
I love it. I could not decide.
46:38
It was so hard to pick a favorite.
46:40
So I literally wrote down a number of favorites that I have
46:46
and I'm gonna just read them off because and then I'll pick one.
46:51
Yeah, you have two. So staples that I have.
46:56
There's the Christmas carols, which I didn't even write down
46:59
cuz those are in there like, I don't know Holy night and like I
47:05
don't even, I don't know Christmas carols.
47:07
Like if you go Christmas caroling, these are the songs
47:09
you hear. Those are in there too.
47:12
Silent Night, that's a, that's a standby, but the like top three
47:18
I had from the crooner days. These are big favorites of mine.
47:22
Mistletoe and Holly, that's Frank Sinatra.
47:26
White Christmas, Bing Crosby and Marshmallow World.
47:31
Dean Martin. Those 3 songs are absolutely
47:35
fantastically wonderful. I know every single word.
47:38
I sing them out loud when it's happening.
47:42
So those are in like, my favorites.
47:45
And then there's some newer ones, two of which are, I think
47:50
probably in the last five years, once called at this table by
47:54
Idina Menzel, who voiced Elsa in Disney's Frozen.
47:59
She's got a great voice. Also in Disney's Frozen too.
48:03
And three. Wait, is there a three?
48:05
I don't know. There was a Christmas special.
48:07
I feel like there was a three. Anyway, that song is great.
48:13
The themes of all these are wonderful, like mistletoe and
48:16
Holly is about traditions. White Christmas is from the
48:18
movie White Christmas, which has some, you know, some good and
48:23
some bad in it. It's, you know, World War 2
48:25
stuff. And yeah, but the song itself is
48:30
great and it's, you know, it's about the white Christmas.
48:32
And then Marshmallow World is kind of a fun song, talks about
48:35
like marshmallow clouds being friendly and snow comes to I.
48:40
Really dislike that song. That's a bad one.
48:43
What? Yeah, I don't like.
48:44
It I like that song a lot at this table.
48:47
One of the reasons I like that song and the next song, which is
48:52
probably the nearest and dearest to my heart.
48:55
But at this table is a song about like, it's about the
49:00
Christmas table, but like everyone is welcome to the
49:05
table. And some of the lyrics are
49:07
really touching. It says like there's there's
49:13
always one more seat at the table and it's just very like
49:18
it's warm and it's very inviting.
49:20
And I like that spirit of Christmas.
49:23
We invited someone to our Thanksgiving table that was in
49:27
need of a little company. Or are you inviting anyone to a
49:30
Christmas table? If if I can, I probably will
49:35
anyway. And then the next song that I
49:37
have on my and I'm just recommending these that people
49:39
just go listen to them because you'll have a great time.
49:42
This one is is for sure the one that it like it brings me back
49:49
to childhood and home so well that it's like shocking.
49:55
It's called that's Christmas to me.
49:58
I don't know who originally wrote the song, but the one that
50:01
I like is Pentatonix, who's a great a cappella band or group
50:06
cuz there's a band. They have instruments anyway, a
50:08
cappella, and they're super famous so people know who they
50:11
are. And that song, the harmonies are
50:14
amazing and the lyrics are, again, very warm and fuzzy and
50:20
it makes me feel real good. And I get a little choked up
50:22
when I listen to it almost every single time, even though I
50:25
listen to it like, I don't know, 50 times each Christmas or
50:29
something. So is that your pick?
50:30
Nope, that's just the one that like, really hits me, you know?
50:34
OK, yeah, in the soul area. OK, I'm pointing my pick I
50:41
think, and part of this is because of it's who the song is
50:47
from and the fun the fun of the song.
50:51
I know what you're doing. It's not a tactic at all.
50:55
It is. Have yourself a merry little
50:57
Christmas, Judy Garland. Yes, now her voice is amazing.
51:03
That's not to be questioned. And that song.
51:08
I recently learned this actually this year I again accidentally
51:11
did some research because I love Christmas so much and I love
51:15
Christmas music so much that I found out as I was listening to
51:19
her sing this. She's been on my playlist for
51:21
years FYI and I never skip it because she's an Angel.
51:28
I found out it came from an album that had, I think there's
51:31
like 5 or 6 songs called Meet Me in Saint Louis.
51:34
And like the first song is about like a guy named Louis and she's
51:38
taken off and if he wants to meet her in Saint Louis, he can.
51:42
And it's kind of got like a like a she's, you know, doing what
51:48
she wants. And, and I think that's like
51:50
really cool, like kind of trailblazery because it's from
51:53
like 1934 or five and I don't know, it's very old.
51:58
Like it's, that'd be a good 90 years old anyway.
52:02
And that song, again, with the lyrics always mean a lot.
52:06
You know, it's one of the reasons I picked so many is the
52:09
the song itself matters. It's not just the tune.
52:13
And that one is really good. Let your heart be light.
52:16
I mean, it's, you know, from now on, all our troubles will be far
52:19
away. It's a very, like, it's a very
52:22
positive song. And even though Christmas
52:28
happens at a dark time of year, like geographically speaking,
52:34
and for a lot of people, it's it's tough.
52:36
And there's times that it's tough for me because, you know,
52:40
one of the things I love about it is also one of the things
52:42
that makes it difficult is I love that it makes me think of
52:45
being a kid and makes me think about family.
52:47
But it also, you know, as I'm now no longer a kid and I'm
52:51
older, it makes me think about the people that aren't with us
52:54
anymore. Like it makes me think a lot
52:55
about my grandma's. It's why they're cooking their
52:57
cookies and this. Song makes you think about these
52:59
people. The lyrics do, and it talks
53:04
about, you know, your troubles being miles away.
53:09
So I love the song. It's a very old, very wonderful
53:13
song sung by a very wonderful singer.
53:16
And that matters. I have other great singers on my
53:19
list, too. You want to know more?
53:20
Feel free to ask me after this show.
53:23
There you go. There you go.
53:25
That's very interesting. OK, OK.
53:28
So what I find interesting is that, I mean, we did actually
53:33
have to discuss this beforehand. And a couple of the songs that
53:36
you mentioned not on this list that you mentioned while
53:41
discussing are a couple of the songs that are on my list of the
53:46
top few nice songs, you know, for my nice list.
53:50
And I don't know if that was because you'd already had them
53:53
in your mind or what, but. I I like all the songs, it's not
53:58
very cool. But so when I was thinking about
54:03
my, I guess, songs that I think are good Christmas songs, the
54:10
first one I think of is kind of like, what's a fun Christmas
54:14
song that when I hear I'm not like, oh God, stop it.
54:20
And that's rocking around the Christmas tree.
54:22
That's a banger. It's a bop.
54:25
I love it. Brenda Lee.
54:27
I don't know who sings it of. Course you don't, right?
54:29
I know the artists that for all of the songs cuz I love
54:33
Christmas. Right, right.
54:34
I mean, it's a fun one. I mean like it's.
54:35
I bet you don't know all the lyrics.
54:37
No, I don't, and I'm sure I actually probably could sing
54:40
along like, I bet you know, a. Lot of them.
54:42
OK. I don't even.
54:43
It's not a competition. It's not, no.
54:46
I meant that as a as a compliment.
54:48
Technically, our IT is a competition.
54:51
But it's not a competition. So anyhow, but I like that one
54:53
cuz it's fun and uplifting. It is, but like you were talking
54:58
about going back to your childhood and when I was growing
55:01
up, like Christmas songs were mostly where I was hearing
55:09
Christmas songs the most was through the church growing up.
55:12
And so like, what brings me back is something there and one of
55:17
the songs that, and I don't necessarily even care about the
55:20
lyrics, but that is really it rings in my head.
55:27
Oh my goodness. Is Carol of the Bells right like
55:31
the beat on that and how it goes?
55:34
And for me a lot of it really is about the music.
55:37
What does it sound like? What is it making me feel and
55:40
like that ones like I don't. I mean, I'm sure you know I must
55:44
have seen this somewhere, but I think of like little winter
55:48
sprites, like lighting up Christmas all around.
55:51
Like I, I must have seen this. Sprites.
55:53
Interesting. Yeah.
55:54
Like dancing through the thing and I, you know what my moms
55:56
travel like. Yeah, it was on or something.
55:58
Christmas, VHS, you know, this is what you're remembering, but
56:03
like just dancing and like making everything Christmas.
56:06
And it works really well with that.
56:08
So a lot of times for music for me, it's what it makes me feel,
56:11
what it makes me see, what it makes me think, you know, So I
56:14
really like that one. I don't remember there being
56:16
lyrics with it like at at that point.
56:19
And we did look it up beforehand because you're like, well, with
56:22
the lyrics and I'm like, no, actually I don't.
56:26
I don't like it as much with the lyrics.
56:28
I like it fully instrumental, but it's just it's good.
56:33
I mean, and it just makes you kind of get like in a happy,
56:35
like a like a it's just high level, but also beautiful,
56:41
right, Like it sounds beautiful. So it kind of has that right.
56:46
That would be if I was allowed a second nice song, which I'm not.
56:51
No, this we are not that giving. Whoa.
56:54
We are only allowing one nice and one not per person.
56:58
But you can talk about more I. Know and that's that's what I
57:00
did 'cause I love all those songs anyhow, so I like that one
57:04
when you were like Cara la belle, it's it's actually one I
57:07
like and I don't necessarily Oh, there was a third one in there
57:10
that we talked about and you were like doesn't really count
57:14
Greensleeves because you're like, no, the Greensleeves is
57:18
not Christmas and I'm like to. Me.
57:21
To me it is because. They got that one song though.
57:23
What? Child is this, that's it, the
57:25
background. Like when I was a kid learning
57:28
to play piano, Greensleeves was like one of the first things I
57:34
learned, which of course, at that point in my life was really
57:37
more what child is this? But so like, it's a it's just,
57:40
it's one of those things that I remember playing also as a
57:44
child, I or youth, I don't know, I played the bells and I'm sure
57:49
that was one we did on the bells as well.
57:51
Yeah. No, that would have been Carol
57:54
of the Bells, which I did. I there's no way.
57:56
I don't know. It doesn't matter.
57:57
It doesn't matter. My mom will actually tell me
58:00
because she was our Belle Choir director.
58:03
Are you telling me right now if we got a set of bells?
58:05
You and your sisters, Good Carol of the Bells.
58:08
I have no. I mean, maybe, I have no idea.
58:12
But with your mom, I mean telling.
58:13
Me. No, no.
58:13
My mom, My mom would need to tell me.
58:15
Yeah, yeah. I don't think we should try to
58:17
do this. Let's get like a set of
58:19
Christmas bells and you. Need more people to do bells?
58:22
Many do we need? I don't, I don't know, we could
58:24
ask my mom another time, but. That would be an epic Christmas
58:29
video, yeah. It might be maybe, I don't know.
58:31
So anyhow, so those so I was going there and I feel like I
58:35
just talked about another one. Wait, if we got your mom, you
58:38
and your sisters and the three the girls and get, I mean we get
58:43
everyone. I actually probably could do
58:46
that. That would be super great.
58:49
I would support you in all of this.
58:51
No, it's I mean like it's anyhow, Anyhow.
58:53
I'm going to buy the bells today.
58:54
No, you're not. They're really expensive.
58:59
You're like, oh, just to any bell.
59:00
Do you know you need to actually the bells are noted and all of
59:03
these. Things.
59:04
That's fine. Yeah, anyhow, so, so those are
59:08
are some songs that I liked for those reasons, the way they
59:11
sounded and like what again, a musical memory, it invokes me.
59:15
But my number one nice song you've already mentioned, I
59:21
think you were saying some negative things about it, but is
59:26
O Holy night. I wouldn't say negative things
59:29
about O Holy Night. For me, again, the song has to
59:34
have like kind of a deeper musical meaning or level to it.
59:39
And if you just listened to the song and you got rid of the
59:43
lyrics, it's very dramatic. Now you add the lyrics in it and
59:48
it's great. Not in like a great, like that's
59:53
so good, but like great and being great.
59:56
If you think about the original story that the song is about and
1:00:02
that time of year or or when that when the story was
1:00:06
happening, right? Like it being about, you know,
1:00:09
like there's this really big time in the world where there's
1:00:13
this really big dude named Gad who's like, I am going to change
1:00:20
the world. I have this thing and I'm going
1:00:24
to make the world an entirely different place, the whole
1:00:29
world. I'm changing it, yeah.
1:00:32
And it's happening technically in the morning, but it's
1:00:35
happening tonight. Now, I think about like, the
1:00:39
overall story and like, you know, if there's a woman who's
1:00:41
like going through and she's real pregnant, she's not even a
1:00:45
woman. She's a young, young lady, you
1:00:47
know, trying to find a place to be because like, literally
1:00:52
there's some bonkers king who's like, I'm killing all the first
1:00:55
male babies out there. So she's like, I think it might
1:00:59
be a boy. I've been told it's a boy by
1:01:02
some angels, you know, And I've been told this is a really big
1:01:05
deal boy, you know, and her and her, her guy are out looking for
1:01:09
a place for them to hide because she thinks and believes that she
1:01:16
is bringing forth the savior of the world.
1:01:19
Yeah. Also, childbirth is real
1:01:23
freaking dangerous anyhow. So like they're on this
1:01:26
dangerous mission to possibly change the world.
1:01:31
And so having that story be in the background while listening
1:01:35
to the lyrics and hearing the music and like, this is
1:01:40
monumental, you know, like it's, it's not.
1:01:44
I mean, so for me, I think that's one of the reasons why it
1:01:47
just really it feels that way of what the story is about.
1:01:51
Like just like dude, great things are about to happen for
1:01:55
people. A lot of people's lives are
1:01:57
going to change forever. And having that with the music
1:02:02
and the lyrics, all of that together, the story is told so
1:02:07
well, whether or not anyone, you know, whether or not someone
1:02:10
believes in the story or not, it's just like, dude, here's the
1:02:12
story and here we have this song hidden for you.
1:02:15
So that is why that song and again, memory, I mean, I
1:02:21
remember hearing it and I'm like, wait, but it's supposed to
1:02:23
be such a great night because I got Christmas tomorrow morning
1:02:26
and there's going to be presents under the tree and they're like,
1:02:28
whoa, wait, this is right. Like in the different type of
1:02:33
great than what I usually think of great.
1:02:36
This is momentous. It's just very obvious we grew
1:02:38
up in different household because those songs weren't as
1:02:45
prominent. Yeah, it wasn't.
1:02:47
I mean it. We did go caroling around the
1:02:49
neighborhood and sing Christmas carols like from church because
1:02:52
that's where most of them come from.
1:02:53
No, it wasn't a powerful song is what I will say.
1:02:57
I mean in like having it now, do you?
1:02:58
Have a favorite singer of the song?
1:03:01
Cuz it doesn't matter who sings it.
1:03:03
I mean, it does it. Does matter?
1:03:04
If you hear me playing it. 3 octaves or something?
1:03:07
I mean, I, our kid just asked me.
1:03:09
She's like, she's like, what are you choosing for the song?
1:03:12
And I told her and she's like, just could you sing it for me?
1:03:14
And I was like, no, I mean I. Nobody can sing that song unless
1:03:17
they're like, amazing. I mean, I, I've heard great men
1:03:22
and great women sing it. I mean like it.
1:03:24
That's a, it's an incredible. I just that's the feeling and
1:03:28
the understanding of how important for the story like
1:03:34
that song is like dude, don't like it's not just about like
1:03:38
this is this is world changing and having those tones that
1:03:42
bring you through that like this is y'all get ready, it's time.
1:03:49
I understand. So that is why.
1:03:53
And I don't even think the title is like Valent enough for what
1:03:57
it is. But that is why it's my number
1:04:01
one nice song. OK, it almost sounded like you
1:04:04
were making an argument for the story of Jesus Christ and not
1:04:08
for the song itself. Wow, no, it really isn't.
1:04:12
I said That the music. It is amazing.
1:04:14
And the lyrics were matching the momentum just to of the
1:04:19
occasion. Just to toss this out there, I
1:04:21
think Céline Dion is my favorite version of that song that I've
1:04:24
heard. So she sings it very amazingly
1:04:27
well. What's really interesting is my
1:04:29
memory has it as a male singer, cuz it makes sense cuz that's
1:04:33
who sang it at the church that I went to growing up.
1:04:35
And it was just like he had, I mean, he had a deep voice and it
1:04:39
was, it felt like shaky. I don't know.
1:04:42
I don't know how to explain it. But yeah, that's why there's
1:04:46
true storytelling and not just the words, but the music.
1:04:51
And it's it's, yeah, that's what I got.
1:04:57
OK, so there's battle #2 Pole, North Pole #2.
1:05:03
Yep, Yep. So the naughty song, don't play
1:05:07
it. Don't play it for me or around
1:05:08
me. Either one.
1:05:11
Either one, but especially the hippopotamus. 1 for me.
1:05:14
Most especially the chipmunks one cuz ah ah.
1:05:17
Yep. And the nice ones, if you wanna
1:05:19
get like, I don't know, I guess I would say me contemplative.
1:05:24
Interesting. I would say.
1:05:26
I like the song a lot. I don't disagree with you.
1:05:28
Yeah, yeah. And for Luke?
1:05:30
It doesn't. For me, the Christmas season is
1:05:33
more about the warm and the, you know, the, I don't know, it's
1:05:38
the warm fuzzies. And for me, that song by Judy
1:05:41
Garland is fantastic. And I think that's, I don't
1:05:47
know. I think that's the one.
1:05:48
But the viewers will decide. Yeah.
1:05:50
Yeah, they will. Decide.
1:05:51
Decide if you want to have yourself a merry little
1:05:53
Christmas or not. Right, right.
1:05:55
Or, you know, like, just think about the about the actual music
1:05:59
and like the storytelling through instruments.
1:06:03
Yep, Yep. And then maybe you want to have
1:06:06
an old holy night. But also the great thing is in
1:06:11
all of our social medias, I mean boat on ours through Spotify,
1:06:16
but our social media is you can put in your own favorite naughty
1:06:19
or nice and be like y'all missed the boat you forgot about.
1:06:22
This we probably did. I mean, there's so many songs
1:06:25
like and I'll tell you what, I'd like to add some stuff to my
1:06:29
Christmas playlist so you'd send them on in.
1:06:31
I feel like there's a lot more naughty than what I came up
1:06:35
with, but. There's some bad ones, there's
1:06:38
some bad, some bad ones, that's for sure.
1:06:40
Yeah, let's not run Grandma over.
1:06:42
With a ring, no, we don't want to do that.
1:06:45
So voting through Spotify on the poll is the best way.
1:06:50
If you're not a Spotify listener, totally fine.
1:06:53
You can hit us up on social media arguing ever after on most
1:06:58
of the social medias. Yep.
1:07:01
And please, after you've listened to this and enjoyed it,
1:07:06
yeah, tell a friend to do the same.
1:07:08
Yeah, we just wanna spread a little joy through argument.
1:07:12
There you go. There you go.
1:07:15
All right, have a good one. Merry Christmas.