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Coronavirus Crimes BEWARE! Scams, Phishing, Assaults · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace is coming to Fox Nation. I Want Justice.
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace available now only on Fox Nation.
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  Speaker 1: Coronavirus crimes are on the rise. Why Crime Stories with
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. From an apartment parking lot, a Cape Coral
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  Speaker 1: officer heard panicked cries for help. As he approached the building,
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  Speaker 1: the screams grew louder. The officer says he spotted a
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  Speaker 1: man later ideed as Joseph Newell, straddling his victim with
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  Speaker 1: what appeared to be his hands around her neck. According
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  Speaker 1: to Newell's arrest report, he was intoxicated and told them
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  Speaker 1: the woman had COVID nineteen, but in reality, she was
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  Speaker 1: six months pregnant. We are getting from our cause. Jennifer
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  Speaker 1: Benton with the Abuse Counseling and Treatment Center says they're
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  Speaker 1: seeing a spike in domestic violence cases that could be
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  Speaker 1: linked to coronavirus. Definitely, people are saying home, they're more agitated.
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  Speaker 1: The center is open to all looking for help. We
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  Speaker 1: have a hotline that operates twenty four hours a day
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  Speaker 1: that will continue. We have three shelters and they're open
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  Speaker 1: and they're staff twenty four hours a day. We are
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  Speaker 1: here for people especially now with growing concerns over COVID. Nineteen,
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  Speaker 1: Cape Coral police arrest a man they found beating brutally
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  Speaker 1: beating a pregnant woman that he says has corona virus.
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  Speaker 1: It was Joseph Cory Newell twenty four or Fort Myers.
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  Speaker 1: He's charged with a felony aggravated battery, knowing the victim
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  Speaker 1: was pregnant. Eleven o six pm police dispatch for disturbance.
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  Speaker 1: They find a person in the parking lot claiming to
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  Speaker 1: hear screams. They go in and they find the pregnant
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  Speaker 1: victim on the floor, her face covered in blood. His excuse,
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  Speaker 1: she has corona virus. Of course she didn't, she's pregnant.
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  Speaker 1: She was immediately taken to Cape Coral Hospital. Pregnant, yes, coronavirus,
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  Speaker 1: no imancy. Grace, this is crime Stories. Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: being with us. You were just hearing WBBHTV NBC two
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  Speaker 1: Nesta Montoya speaking about that incident. But the coronavirus crimes
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  Speaker 1: are on the uptick on a major, major way. We know.
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  Speaker 1: Televangelist Jim Baker is being sued for selling silver solution
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  Speaker 1: claiming it cures coronavirus. Joining me right, now an All
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  Speaker 1: Star panel. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author Red Flags at
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  Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick PhD dot com. Cloyd Steiger thirty six years,
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  Speaker 1: Seattle PD, twenty two years, homicide author Seattle's Forgotten serial Killer.
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  Speaker 1: Gary Jane Grant at Kloyd Steiger dot com. Professor Forensics,
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville State University. Joseph Scott Morgan, author Blood Beneath My
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  Speaker 1: Feet on Amazon, We're now psychologist outam New York. Karen
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  Speaker 1: Stark at Karen Stark dot com. But right now to
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  Speaker 1: Dave Matt, crime online investigative reporter. As it turns out,
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  Speaker 1: the Missouri AG has filed a season desist on televangelists
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  Speaker 1: Jim Baker. Why Dave Matt Nancy. Jim Baker was selling
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  Speaker 1: a solution on his television show called Silver Solution that
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  Speaker 1: he and a so called doctor claimed was an effective
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  Speaker 1: cure for coronavirus, totally eliminating it within twelve hours. You know,
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  Speaker 1: amazing to me. To Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor forensic, we
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  Speaker 1: have taken a long, hard look at colloidal silver, and
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  Speaker 1: after I first came out against Jim Baker on this,
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  Speaker 1: I got a lot of heat online. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: naysayers mad at me for SAE. Colloidal silver i e.
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  Speaker 1: Silver solution doesn't cure coronavirus. And it's important to note
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  Speaker 1: that Missouri ag is coming down on Baker, not because
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  Speaker 1: colloidal silver hasn't been used for years and years and
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  Speaker 1: years to soothe skin elments and so forth. But it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't cure coronavirus, does it? Joe Scott. No, if it did,
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  Speaker 1: it would be, you know, widely distributed everywhere. And hey,
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  Speaker 1: if it is this miracle drug, Nancy, why would you
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  Speaker 1: want to be selling it. Why would you want to
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  Speaker 1: be selling it? Wouldn't you want to have everybody have
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  Speaker 1: access to it so that everybody could be cured. Listen
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  Speaker 1: this compound. Over the years, people have claimed that it HIV,
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  Speaker 1: people have claimed that it cure shingles, herpes, eye disorders,
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  Speaker 1: all of these different things, and the main component is
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  Speaker 1: actually silver and it is not an essential element for
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  Speaker 1: the body. It's beyond ridiculous to sell this to somebody,
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  Speaker 1: particularly people that are so vulnerable. Here's the deal. People
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  Speaker 1: that are watching, to a large degree televangelist on TV
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  Speaker 1: are the elderly in our population. They are the ones
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  Speaker 1: being affected by coronavirus the most and so you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's got a perfect pool of victims. To Wendy Patrick,
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  Speaker 1: California prosecutor and author, Wendy, here's my question, and light
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  Speaker 1: of the coronavirus pandemic, can any criminal action be taken
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  Speaker 1: against Baker? Well, you know the problem with taking any
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  Speaker 1: criminal action in scenarios like this is you're going to
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  Speaker 1: have to find not only a statute that fits, you're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to find the right jurisdiction, but you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have to find courts that are You know, this
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  Speaker 1: is one of the times and probably unprecedented that we're
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  Speaker 1: asking these questions to try to figure out is it
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  Speaker 1: worth our time to try to mount criminal charges against
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  Speaker 1: somebody who is definitely probably not going to be in custody.
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  Speaker 1: But can we make this kind of a case, particularly
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  Speaker 1: if there is an intent requirement. You see a lot
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  Speaker 1: of these cases being filed that, as you Nancy know,
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  Speaker 1: are specific intent crime. So it's not enough to simply
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  Speaker 1: do or say something, but you also have to prove
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  Speaker 1: the mindset of the person that did it. But if
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  Speaker 1: we had a criminal case against Jim Baker, what would
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  Speaker 1: it be I would have to go and look at
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  Speaker 1: the statutes very carefully to try to figure out what
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  Speaker 1: kind of misrepresentation type of crime would lie or something
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  Speaker 1: like this. That's normally the first place we would look
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  Speaker 1: if somebody is knowingly offering something knowing the product is false,
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  Speaker 1: or with reckless disregard for the truth of what they're saying.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about Jim Baker, the Charlotte, North Carolina tell
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  Speaker 1: evangelist who's already done five years in prison for fraud
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  Speaker 1: and the nineties. That's a big hint of what the
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  Speaker 1: criminal charge would be, fraud f R A U D.
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  Speaker 1: Now we know that he's pushing colloidal silver, the quote
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  Speaker 1: silver solution all right, to cure corona virus. He's already
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  Speaker 1: gotten a cease and desist order. It's a very pricey
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  Speaker 1: and it's aimed at the elderly, and he has been
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  Speaker 1: pitching it on TV. The National Institutes of Health and
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  Speaker 1: say colloidal silver has no known function or benefits. The
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  Speaker 1: New York Attorney General sent Baker the order. The Missouri
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  Speaker 1: ag is taking action against him. Now, long story short,
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  Speaker 1: there are civil lawsuits and there are criminal cases, a
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  Speaker 1: criminal case for fraud knowing fraud. It's a white collar
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  Speaker 1: crum could be brought and there could be probably a
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  Speaker 1: slap on the wrist for that. Like about five years now,
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  Speaker 1: there's another guy you may know his name, a conspiracy
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  Speaker 1: theorist Alex Jones has somehow landed in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the Corona virus debacle. I want you to take a
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  Speaker 1: listen to this. Officials are warning the public not to
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  Speaker 1: fall for fake cures peddled by some companies and individuals,
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  Speaker 1: possibly trying to scam consumers with their claims. Earlier this week,
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  Speaker 1: the FTC and FDA issued warnings to seven companies accused
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  Speaker 1: of selling unapproved or misbranded products claiming they can treat
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  Speaker 1: or cure COVID nineteen with T's essential oils and colloidal silver.
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  Speaker 1: Televangelist Jim Baker received one such warning for offering an
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  Speaker 1: eighty dollars silver solution he advertised as a treatment for coronavirus,
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  Speaker 1: even though there is not yet a known vaccine and
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  Speaker 1: conspiracy theory to Alex Jones received a cease and desist
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  Speaker 1: letter for hawking unproven products from New York Attorney General
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  Speaker 1: Letitia James, one of several she and other states attorneys
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  Speaker 1: general have issued in recent days to people they say
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  Speaker 1: are selling unproven product. You were just hearing our friends
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  Speaker 1: over at ABC. That was news correspondent Will Reave speaking.
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  Speaker 1: What we're learning right now is that conspiracy theorists, the
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  Speaker 1: one that says Sandy Hook never happened. I think, isn't
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  Speaker 1: that him? Alex Jones has been told to stop selling
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  Speaker 1: anti coronavirus tooth paste. Mister Jones using his radio show
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  Speaker 1: and website to promote conspiracy theories, now falsely claiming his
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  Speaker 1: products can fight the virus. The New York State Attorney
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  Speaker 1: jumped in issue to cease and desist order on Alex Jones.
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  Speaker 1: So what do we know about his claims? Straight out
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  Speaker 1: to Dave Mattcrime online dot Com investigative reporter, what does
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  Speaker 1: he climbing? He actually claims, Nancy that the silverns used toothpaste,
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  Speaker 1: mouthwaw screams and other dietary subsplements actually are a stop
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  Speaker 1: gate against the virus. That's whoa whooa a stop gate. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead. I just had to write that down. His
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  Speaker 1: super blue super Blue brand of toothpaste quote kills the
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  Speaker 1: whole stars a Corona family at point blank range super Blue.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, really, I guess you know. Hold on, Dave Makeham,
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  Speaker 1: circling right back to you. But I need to shrink,
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  Speaker 1: and I happen to have renowned psychologist Karen Stark. Karen Stark.
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  Speaker 1: But people are desperate. They'll do anything, They will do
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  Speaker 1: anything to protect themselves or their families, and this is
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  Speaker 1: a perfect time for fraud stars to jump in. Alex Jones.
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  Speaker 1: According to the Attorney General, their words not Mine made
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  Speaker 1: us series of claims that as products could act as
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  Speaker 1: a stop gate as Dave Matt reports against coronavirus super
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  Speaker 1: Blue brand of toothpaste. There are currently no products, vaccines,
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  Speaker 1: or drugs are proved to treat coronavirus. Karen, what's going
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  Speaker 1: through everybody's minds. People are desperate and vulnerable, Nancy, and
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  Speaker 1: you when you think about, you know, what's popular are
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  Speaker 1: out there. They're desperate for a cure, and they don't research.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of times there's a product that everybody's buying,
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  Speaker 1: and they're only buying it because they see other people
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  Speaker 1: are buying it, and they get influenced. Well, if other
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  Speaker 1: people are buying it, it must be good. So if
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  Speaker 1: it's this guy, we've heard about him and he's saying
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  Speaker 1: it's a cure well, and people are buying it. I'd
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  Speaker 1: better do it because I'm terrified. And that's exactly what's happening.
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  Speaker 1: They're taking advantage of everyone's fear and vulnerability and offering
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  Speaker 1: these products that will not make a bit of a difference,
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  Speaker 1: just to get money. I would use the phrase monetizing fear,
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  Speaker 1: making money off people's fear. Climb stories with Nancy Grace. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: did I ever get the chance to say thank you
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  Speaker 1: for joining us here on Serious eleven. At a time
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  Speaker 1: when we are all trying to pull together, asking for
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  Speaker 1: Heaven for guidance, trying to do the right thing, we
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  Speaker 1: have fraudsters taking advantage of those most vulnerable. In the
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  Speaker 1: last hours we learn conspiracy theorists and radio star Alex
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  Speaker 1: Jones has been told to stop selling his fake anti
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  Speaker 1: coronavirus toothpaste. It's called super Blue. We know that sham
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  Speaker 1: products from dietary supplements, foods, medical devices, vaccines, door to
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  Speaker 1: door coronavirus testing. They're everywhere right now. They're on Amazon,
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  Speaker 1: they're own eBay, they're knocking on your door, knock, can
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  Speaker 1: I test it for coronavirus? It has presented people like
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  Speaker 1: mister Jones with an opportunity to monetize fear. According to
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  Speaker 1: Letitia James, the state ag who issued an order against
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  Speaker 1: Jones on Thursday, while people are literally dying, while they're
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  Speaker 1: crowding the halls of hospitals, while their loved ones are
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  Speaker 1: trying to breathe, other people are making money off that fear.
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  Speaker 1: I worked for a while at the Federal Trade Commission
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  Speaker 1: in their anti trust and consumer protection divisions. And for
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  Speaker 1: a product to go on the market, a drug product,
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  Speaker 1: it has to be undergo multiple double blind tests, in
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  Speaker 1: other words, double blind. One group gets the product, one
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  Speaker 1: group gets pulsebos. You have to go through multiple tests
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  Speaker 1: like that to prove they really work. This is so
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  Speaker 1: disappointing that people are taking advantage of those suffering. Dave Maack,
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  Speaker 1: what mar can you tell me about super Blue? Alex
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  Speaker 1: Jones has claimed that his super bluetooth face, he actually
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  Speaker 1: said this on his show, it kills the whole Sars
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  Speaker 1: Corona family at point blank range. There's no vague area here.
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  Speaker 1: This is a very direct claim, and as you mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: he has a very devoted loyal audience to believe a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the garbage he spews and that's why there's
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  Speaker 1: a crackdown on him. Because this guy's money doesn't come
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  Speaker 1: from advertisers on his show. It comes from him selling
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  Speaker 1: these types of products. He has a whole line of
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  Speaker 1: garbage products that are of question. Noble youth, Well, here's
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  Speaker 1: a question. His claims obviously are false. But do you
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  Speaker 1: believe out to Cloyd's Tiger he will obey the cease
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  Speaker 1: and desist order? I would think not. I mean, these
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  Speaker 1: guys are snake oil salesman and they'll get every dime
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  Speaker 1: they can before they're physically forced by the law to
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  Speaker 1: do something. It's just like he said, it's outrageous monetary
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  Speaker 1: monetizing fear, you know, to Dave, Matt, doesn't he still
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  Speaker 1: say Sandy Hook didn't happen the mass shooting Nancy. My
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  Speaker 1: understanding is that he claims that he's that, Yes, he
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  Speaker 1: said something happened to Sandy Hook. That is not what
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  Speaker 1: was reported in the media when all the children were killed.
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  Speaker 1: Then we know of Matt Colvin stockpiling eighteen thousand bottles
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  Speaker 1: of hand sanitizer, trying to pick up the price up
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  Speaker 1: to seventy dollars a bottle. That's clearly price gouging to Dave, Matt,
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  Speaker 1: what can you tell me about Matt Colvin? These Tennessee brothers,
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  Speaker 1: Matt Colvin and his brothers saw the pandemic coming, and
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  Speaker 1: so what they did in Tennessee is they went around
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  Speaker 1: and started buying up hand sanitizers throughout all their local stores,
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  Speaker 1: and then spread out from there and ended up even
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  Speaker 1: going into Kentucky, and they amassed at least twenty thousand
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  Speaker 1: things of hand sanitizers, and they were selling them online
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  Speaker 1: and a tube, a container that would go for a
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  Speaker 1: dollar retail was selling for seventy five eighty bucks online
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  Speaker 1: before they finally, you know, they got caught onto and
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  Speaker 1: Amazon shut them down and they were stuck with seventeen
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  Speaker 1: thousand bottles of hand sanitizer. But still they're still being
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  Speaker 1: looked into. And you know, you guys are the lawyers,
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  Speaker 1: not me. They're still looking at possible charges for taking
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  Speaker 1: advantage of a time as they were trying to do.
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  Speaker 1: A guy was seventeen nearly eighteen thousand bottles of hand sanitizers,
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  Speaker 1: selling them for seventy five dollars a pop. To attorney
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  Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick joining Us, author of Red Flags, Wendy, what
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  Speaker 1: about the possibility I know that he is now under
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  Speaker 1: investigation for price gouging. What could become of that? Well,
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  Speaker 1: if he's charged, it's really going to send a message.
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  Speaker 1: I mean price gouging. You have to look at well, gosh,
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  Speaker 1: how far did you raise a price? Here they raise
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  Speaker 1: there's an astronomical amount. But you look at the amount
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  Speaker 1: of overage people are charging and saying, hey, can you
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  Speaker 1: justify that some other way than clearly being guilty of
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  Speaker 1: price gouging. But whether it's price gouging, fraud, or whatever
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  Speaker 1: it is that people are engaging in, once these cases
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  Speaker 1: start being charged, I don't care what jurisdiction it is,
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  Speaker 1: people are going to pay a lot more attention and
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  Speaker 1: certainly be a lot more careful about what they try
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  Speaker 1: to get away with online while speaking a price gouging,
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  Speaker 1: listen to this. Deputies arrested eight people for it, and
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  Speaker 1: they say those who are profiting from people's fear will
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  Speaker 1: be prosecuted. To impact toilet paper for believe it was
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  Speaker 1: one hundred dollars. Toilet paper, gloves and other cleaning supplies
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  Speaker 1: now evidence in a criminal investigation after people tried selling
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  Speaker 1: the items for up to twenty times their regular retail price.
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  Speaker 1: The San Diego Sheriff's substation in Fulbrook arrested eight people
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  Speaker 1: for price gouging. Deputy say they found them selling the
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  Speaker 1: items online, met them in a public place acting as buyers,
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  Speaker 1: then they were placed under arrest. The individuals were cited
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  Speaker 1: and released, but face up to one year in prison
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  Speaker 1: and could be fined up to ten thousand dollars. According
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  Speaker 1: to the district attorney, it's illegal to increase prices for
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  Speaker 1: essential goods by more than ten percent during a declared
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  Speaker 1: state of emergency. Items like these in ninety five masks,
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  Speaker 1: which normally run about two dollars each. He was selling
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  Speaker 1: twenty six of those for about two hundred ten dollars. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: you're hearing Fox five San Diego News report Justina Myers
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  Speaker 1: and more from Justina on price gouging. Guys, you gotta
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  Speaker 1: watch out. Listen to Justina Myers. The rise in price
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  Speaker 1: douging comes as grocery store shelves are wiped clean. People
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  Speaker 1: buying out of control. They don't even know what they're buying.
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  Speaker 1: They're just buying. Facetiming. Before her shift out, Ralph's in
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  Speaker 1: Bonita sales manager Esther Lopez says supply wouldn't be a
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  Speaker 1: problem if shoppers didn't create one. She's worried about those
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  Speaker 1: who are desperate who might fall victim to excessive prices
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  Speaker 1: if they can't find it at the store. The people
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  Speaker 1: who can come in here on their own, who have
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  Speaker 1: some health problems, so please stop doing this. Independent grocery
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  Speaker 1: stores are also seeing the stockpiling. Yeah, the shelves are
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  Speaker 1: pretty empty, co owner of Staley Farms Market in Kensington,
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  Speaker 1: reminding shoppers so only take what they need half a
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  Speaker 1: gallon a mouth, grow one thing to cheese rather than nine.
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  Speaker 1: So we are experiencing that overload panic purchase buying, and
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  Speaker 1: that has hurt the supplies. As for law enforcement, they
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  Speaker 1: have a strong message for those looking to line their
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  Speaker 1: pockets stirring this pandemic. Can you take advantage? We're going
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  Speaker 1: over email. However, two of the most critical programs remain open,
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  Speaker 1: the shelter and the twenty four hour hotline. The Courthouse
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Advocacy program is also open. There's still processing restraining orders.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Advocates say even during this crisis, domestic violence continues to
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: be an issue. Violence never stops, and that in times
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: of stress, domestic violence absolutely goes up in people's lives.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: We all want to maintain some sort of control in
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: our lives, and times of crisis, all of us are
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: feeling stressed. That could be, you know, we want to
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: go to the grocery store stock up when groceries. Some
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: people exercise control in different ways. For victims of domestic violence,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: going to work can be their only respites, but for
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: many people that's not an option. Right now, Domestic violence
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: is on a stark and drastic rise. During Corona virus scares,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: people are staying into Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor author Red Flags,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: explain Plaine, why is domestic violence now a major concern?
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: It's a major concern, Nancy, because it's a scenario where
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the danger is inside your home. Domestic violence victims often
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: find a respite by going to work, staying at work late,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: lingering at the grocery store, things they can't do right now.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: You know, when we request the public to shelter in place,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: we assume a safe place to hunker down and whether
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: the storm. But domestic violence victims are not safe at home,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: and they may have abusers that are threatening. What's going
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: to happen if they dare to go out, They'll be
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: locked out, They'll get sick. They don't want to go
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: to a shelter because they're worried about overcrowding and not
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to social distance. That's the same reason. Sometimes
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: even if they're injured, they don't want to go to
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: an emergency room. They would probably rather, in the words
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: of some of them, suffer a physical injury than get
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: the coronavirus. It's a horrible scenario, but it is exactly
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: made easier by some of these domestic violence hotlines offering
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: all sorts of ways to contact them, whether it's on
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: the phone, whether it's on email, or however, they can
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: get at least some access to knowing what help is
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: available during this typical time. Take a listen to reporter
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: terse Appel at WLBT NBC three. Every year, domestic violence
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: peaks at certain times, and there are some very standard factors.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: A lot of family members in close proximity, stress over finances,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: stir crazy children. Police usually see the highest numbers of
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: domestic violence calls during the holidays, but summer, when children
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: are out of school, is also a time to watch.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Now families are staying home instead of going to school, work,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: or church because of the dangers of coronavirus. Sandy Middleton,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: director of the Mississippi Center for Prevention of Violence, says
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: some homes could be at risk. Day cares are closed,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I mean schools are closed. A lot of people aren't
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: going to work. So even if we don't get to
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: a pure quarantine situation, we're still talking about a lot
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: of people being piled in together in homes ranking any
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Chief investigator Brett McAlpin says Nancy children can also contribute
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: to stress in the home. They want to go outside,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: they want to see their friends and things like that.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: And if we're gonna have this this quarantine situation, we're
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: not gonna that's not going to be possible. We are
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: now learning that a mother in Utah attacks her husband
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: and children. To Dave Matt Crime online dot Com investigative reporter,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: what happened? Jessica Cambery from in Provo, Utah and Ancy
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: apparently just lost it when she realized that her boys
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: were going to be at home and that they weren't
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: going to be allowed to go to school. They weren't
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: gonna be able to go out. At thirty six years old,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: she actually just exploded on the family. She started attacking
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: her husband. When one of the boys tried to get
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: her off the husband, she kicks the twelve year old
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: boy and twists the arm of another one. It was
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: an all out frey with this thirty six year old
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: mom who just lost it when she realized the kids
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: were going to be underfoot and in the house and
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: she couldn't get away from anybody. Thirty six year old
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Jessica Cambray, profile Utah just arrested overclaim she attacked the fiance,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: tried to choke him, kicked one of the boys, twisted
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: another one's arms. Why upset her children would not be
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: at school? Attacking them because of the Corona virus. School
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: closures straight out to Karen Start New York psychologists way in. Well,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: when you think about it, Nancy, and you have people
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: that are unstable, and as we keep saying, frightened, vulnerable,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: here's somebody who clearly can't do it with her children
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: being home, and no one can predict how long this
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: is even go to last. And so we take this
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: unstable person, obviously your everyday mother, and she hears about
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: this and completely cannot contain herself, loses herself and attacks everybody.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Thirty six year old Jessica Cambray. You know I want
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: to go out to you, Cloyd Steiger. This happened a
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: little after midnight. As I always told juries, nothing good
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: happens after midnight, A major blowout over coronavirus after midnight,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: choking her husband police. Can you imagine having to say
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: your mom twisted your arm and kick to you and
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: try to choke your dad when you're trying to help
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: your dad. Having to tell the cops that, yeah, you know,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: in another life, years and years ago, I was a
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: patrol officer and went to those type of things all
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: the time. Two of my sons right now are Seattle
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: police officers and have to go to work every day
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and that's the type of stuff they see and they
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: can't get away from it. Ter exposed. So it's just
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: like I said, like Karen said, people are cooped up,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: and you know, we have a propensity for that to
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: begin with. Such just aggravates the whole thing. Right now,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: we know she is under arrest in homes where domestic
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: violence or family violence is a reality. What should a
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: victim do right now? To Wendy Patrick, victims should assess
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: their options. They have family, they have friends, they may
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: have other places to live. It shouldn't be a choice, Nancy,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: between being physically injured or physically ill. They should take
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: advantage of so many online resources. I mean, there are
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: so many people that are opening their homes, opening their businesses,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: transforming hotels into shelters. It's changing by the day. So
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: there are options. And the very first thing I want
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: to say when I'm looking at all these victims is
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: you are not alone. There are many people that are
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: in this circumstance, and there are an increasing amount of
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: people that are stepping up willing to help you find options.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Rather than being under this horrific type of house arrest
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: where they're worried about the danger within. Another issue is
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: child abuse to you, you know, Joe Scott Morgan, you
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: have been in the investigative business for so long. I
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: anticipate a spike and child abuse and we may never
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: really know about it because children, the most vulnerable, can't
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: speak out. What do you think? Yeah, and I think
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: that one of the stressors that's involved with this is
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: that you have adults that are caretakers over children that
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: are unstable to begin with. Many times they're frustrated, they
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: can't get out of the house, and so they're going
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: to take advantage of and they're going to abuse the
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: weakest person in the house. This can extend to the
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: wife as well physically, but the target here are the children.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: They're frustrated with them, and to live in an abusive
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: household like this, it means to live in fear. And
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: these children, if they make a wrong sound, if they
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: don't move quick enough for this individual, great harm can come.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: To crime stories with Nancy Grace. From an apartment parking lot,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: a Cape Coral officer heard panicked cries for help. As
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: he approached the building, the screams grew louder. The officer
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: says he spotted a man later ideed as Joseph Newell,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: straddling his victim with what appeared to be his hands
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: around her neck. According to Newell's arrest report, he was
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: intoxicated and told them the woman had COVID nineteen, but
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: in reality she was six months pregnant. We are getting
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: ready for more calls. Jennifer Benton with the Abuse Counseling
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: and Treatment Center says they're seeing us spike in domestic
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: violence cases that could be linked to coronavirus. Definitely, people
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: are staying at home, they're more agitated. The center is
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: open to all looking for help, a hotline that operates
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day that will continue. We have
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: three shelters and they're open and they're staff twenty four
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: hours a day. We are here for people, especially now
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: with growing concerns over COVID nineteen. An attack goes down
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: based on belief, the false belief that a woman has
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: coronavirus beaten brutally. You were just hearing our friend at
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: WBBHTV NBC two, Nestor Montoya speaking. We already know that
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: domestic violence and child abuse will rise during quarantines. Also,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: at risk people will be neglected we will see deaths
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: while most Americans are inside their homes watching as worrying
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: desperate emails, almost screaming fear for unseen victims. During the
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: national shutdown, one Florida social worker writing of her fear
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: because of her disabled clients shut in their homes, unable
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: to even go to the bathroom. Child Protective Services fears
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: that families will run out of food, formula, and diapers
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: die of lack of treatment. You've got parents desperate to work,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: but all that stress will it lead to child abuse?
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: In Manhattan, one worker says they are drowning trying to
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: get food and supplies to homeless people right now. While
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: most eyes are focused on hospitals and the ill, what
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: about the unseen victims will come back? I'm Nancy Grace.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: This is crime stories. There was an outright war at
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: a Brooklyn Costco, another at a Sam's club in Georgia,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: but a hate crime. Take a listen to this. An
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Asian woman was punched in the face in Midtown and
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: what's being investigated as a possible coronavirus related bias attack. Yes,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: the NYPD responded to this reported assault at a building
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: on West thirty fourth Street, A twenty three year old
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: woman told officer she was punched in the face by
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: a woman who also made anti Asian slurs before leaving
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: the scene. She was taken to the hospital in stable condition.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Police say the two women knew each other and attend
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: the same school. The zero tolerance for violence with our students.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: We investigated the situation. The student was suspended immediately following
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: the situation. Now today on Twitter, First Lady Charlaine McCrae
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: told Asian American New Yorkers that your city dands with you.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Governor Cuelmo has directed the New York State Police Hate
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Crimes Task Force to assist in that investigation. You're hearing
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: our friends there at ABC seven an Asian American hate
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: attack at a Brooklyn Costco today, Matt, what happened at
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Costco, Nancy. We actually had people that they
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: were doing a buying horde, you know, when people are
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: grabbing up all the toilet papers they can and piling
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: it in their buggies and just grabbing all these items
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: that we see as essential, and it just kind of
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: exploded on itself. And this manager who was there or
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: an employee, he was just trying to get everybody calm.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: You know the video that we've seen his cell phone
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: video and you can hear this guy imploring them saying, please,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: we're all in this together as human beings. We've got
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: to come together. He was just trying to calm the situation, and,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: by the way, effectively did calm the situation down. So
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: this is what happened. A brawl breaks out at a
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: costco a man all the coronavirus tension, there have been
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: multiple altercations, but the attack in a midtown superstore apparently
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: was a hate attack on an Asian woman. Is that
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: what happened, Dave mac twenty three year old Asian woman
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: did wasn't wearing a mask, and another woman who goes
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: to school with her at the Empire Beauty School actually
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: saw her outside of the school and said put your
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: mask on, and it escalated to an actual violent physical
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: attack where the one student who's unnamed right now was
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: hurling racial episodes and other things at the twenty three
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: year old Asian woman for not wearing her mask. It
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: is being investigated as it now. That happened in midtown?
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: What was the store? Do we know it was on
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: the street? From my understanding, he was in the street
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: near where they went to school, and so basically the
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Brooklyn Costco incident was what. That's where we had a
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: number of people that were gathered together and people were
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: grabbing too much toilet paper or paper towels, and just
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: a group of people all kind of met up at
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: the cash register and there there were no toilet paper
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: rolls left, and people were frustrated that others had their
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: buggies piled up where they couldn't find any for their families.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: And that's where the argument started, and one thing led
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: to another with people pushing and shoving and banging carts,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: and that's where the employee or manager was like, look,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: we're all human beings. You've gotten to calm down. This
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: is ridiculous. We got to work together on well. From
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: midtown Manhattan to the Costco in Brooklyn to a Sam's
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Club in Hiram, Georgia, it doesn't seem to be ending.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: But let's go across the country where apparently spring Breakers
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: aren't concerned about coronavirus. Take a listen to our friends
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: at WPLG Local ten Terrell Corny, and by now you've
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: heard all the stories about people's skeptical to travel, and
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: people avoiding large crowds because they're worried that this virus
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: could be easily transmitted. Well, none of that is happening
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: here on the beach. The fun is in full swing
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: on Fort Lauderdale Beach. It's been awesome, crazy. It's though
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: we're spring breakers from near and far are packing away.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: They're worries. Any thought that crossed your mind at all
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: about canceling ah? Oh really honestly. In fact, sky ten
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: captured this view of the coastline where droves of people
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: can be seen on the sand, visitors soaking up the
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: sun from Fort Lauderdale down to South Beach, where crowds
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: are just as heavy. This despite the wave of coronavirus
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: scares sweeping the nation. Yes, we just don't care. I mean,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: we talk about it all the time, but we can't
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: stop it. No real worries. We're young, we don't really
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: need to worry. Really, they don't need to be worried
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: about coronavirus. To Joseph Scott Morgan, professor forensic Jackson State
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: University death investigator, Joe Scott, that's just bass Ackwards. It's foolish,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: absolutely foolish, you know it was let out early on
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: when we began to suffer from the coronavirus, that the
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: elderly were passing away. Well, that only makes sense because
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: they're the most vulnerable. And unfortunately people took that to
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: mean that if you're young, you're not gonna get it.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: And apparently it applies here because this is stupid, and
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I'll say it's stupid behavior on their part. Virus can
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: attack anybody at any time. That's why social distancing is
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: so important, and they're doing anything but distancing themselves. Well,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: at first we thought the young were more less likely
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: to be attacked by coronavirus. I'm not sure that that's true.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to our forensic
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: w FLA Fox eight listen. Breaking news just into our
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: newsroom this morning. The University of Tampa has announced that
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: five students who were traveling together over spring break i've
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: now tested positive for coronavirus. UT switched to online classes
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: earlier this week. Residence halls are still open for students
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: that have no other housing options. All others have been
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: sent home again. This breaking news. Five students now at
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: UT tested positive for coronavirus and joining me at the
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: same from Florida is psychologist Karen Stark. Karen, what are
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: you saying, Nancy? It would just blow your mind. It's
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: so upsetting. I see right whereon staying sons of young
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: people gathering together, barbecuing, laughing, and along the intracoastal you
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: see boats with crowds of kids on there, playing music, singing.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: It's very frightening because they feel invincible, I guess, and
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: they are not listening to what's being told. You know,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: it's amazing to me, Karen Stark. So I'm looking at
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: video of young people out twerking and partying on the beach.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Is that happening, Yes, except now they've decided to close
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: the beaches. So what's happening that I can see is
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: they're going out on the intracoastal on boats, or they're
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: gathering in places where there are pools. They have them
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: closed the pools yet and getting together and making lots
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: of noise, just partying, partying as though we're all from school.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: This is the time, we're invincible. We could just have
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: a good time. And they don't seem to understand there
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: are people here that don't believe that it's real, that
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: think it's a hoax, and it's very hard if you're
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: somebody like me who's social distancing to say we're social distancing,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: please stay away from us. So we have to be
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: very careful. Joe Scott, please address the danger of coronavirus
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and why we are social distancing. Yeah, Nancy, you know,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: the thing about this is that you know it can't
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: be seen, you don't know where it might be existing.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: This is a very robust virus. We talk about things
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: in science like the surface life of a virus. Some
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: things are fragile. Coronavirus is not. It's what we refer
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: to as robust. That means that even if someone sneezes
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: on a surface, that virus is not necessarily going to
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: die immediately. There are some studies that have taken it
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: out several days as a survivabal and so it'll latch
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: onto another host, viable hosts, another person that touches that surface.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: If you're within six feet of an individual and they
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: call for they sneeze, they've got some kind of upper
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: respionratory problem, then that's going to transfer onto that person.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Then they touch their face. It is absolutely essential that
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: people distance themselves from one another. Wait till the storm
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: passes over, and I can't assure you it will. This
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: is not the bubonic plague. Viruses have a lot and
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: you cannot stop it. We can't stop influenza. You know
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: that we go through the flu season. That's why they
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: call it that We're going to go through the corona season.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: It will eventually phase out, but people have to stay
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: away from one another because it's highly contagious. We wait
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: as justice unfolds, and our prayers now for a cure
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: for coronavirus. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off, Goodbye friend,